Denver.

DENVER UPDATE, July 3, 2008 at 12:35pm: TRAVEL UPDATE! Puma PAC will be providing buses from New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Dallas, Jacksonville, and Washington DC to bring Pumas from all across the country to Denver, starting on August 24th. Please help pay for these buses. Many Pumas will find it difficult to pay for getting the time off, motels, food etc. Let’s help as many Puma PAC members as we can join us in Denver. This is a special BUSES TO DENVER FUND. All donations made here will go EXCLUSIVELY to paying for buses. If we can raise enough to hire 100 buses, then hell yes we’ll do it. If 20,000 members each throw in $10 bucks for a free ride to Denver for a fellow Puma we’ll have enough for 500 buses. Grab your fanny packs and get your days off from work Pumas. We’ll have a mighty convoy to Denver rolling on August 24th!


 
Today is our one month birthday. It was Tuesday evening, June 3, when I pressed “publish” on  the first blog post and Puma PAC was born. Overnight I watched as 35,000 people clicked on the post. Since then we’ve had 600,000 visitors, thousands of members officially join us, and thousands of women and men from around the country (and the world) flood our mailboxes and comment threads with offers to help.

In our first month we have sent THOUSANDS of letters to the DNC, the Obama Campaign, and elected officials around the country. We have handed out flyers, brought home-made signs to Unity, New Hampshire, and spread our message like wild-fire on national and local TV. We have faxed, emailed, and called our leaders on the phone to give them one, unequivocal message: We are the VOTERS. This is OUR party. Stop dividing us; start leading us; and RESPECT THE VOICE OF THE VOTERS.

Here’s the lesson the DNC and the Obama campaign have taken away from our phenomenally successful efforts in our FIRST 30 days: “Holy smokes, Howard! They’re going to swing this election! What are we going to doooo?!!”

This ever-hardening conviction is the reason the trolls are up in arms. It’s why Obama dragged Hillary to Unity NH for the Clown Show. It’s why the Bots have been furiously trying to shut down blogs, email accounts, and web pages; scurrilously purging and attacking political dissenters like angry, desperate rats. It’s why the less shady and slimy bloggers like Amanda Marcotte and Huffington Post have launched a personal humiliation and ridicule campaign against people like Riverdaughter, Will Bower, Diane Montavoulos, Paula Abeles, and me.

In the next month we have the opportunity for thousands more to join us. As tensions and hopes rise in the run-up to the August convention there will be confusion, anger, and a growing will to ACTION in the hearts of millions of Democrats around the country who are astonished at how cynically, hypocritically, and flat-out cravenly the DNC and the Obama campaign have tried to play us.

Race-baiting? Check. Class-warfare? Check. Voter suppression? Check. Sexism and misogyny? Check. Voting irregularities? Check. Back room deals? Check. Pandering and purging? Check. Disenfranchisement? Check.

The only entry in the Karl Rove playbook that David Axelrod and Barack Obama have not yet used (but hold onto your hats, folks! It’s a comin’) is outright STEALING of the election.

Our only protection against the Obama Movement’s plan to force this election using any means possible is to MAKE IT TOO HARD TO STEAL. We must stay united in our Protest of the Election or they will seize their opportunity to tip the scales once again. Remember, this is Chicago-style politics. Win at any cost is the mantra. Small “irregularities” that are hard to trace and nearly impossible to prove are the means. In a CLOSE ELECTION they will PLAY THEIR ACE CARD.

If you don’t believe David Axelrod and Barack Obama don’t have both the intention and the means to steal a close election, you haven’t been paying attention. You did watch the elections of 2000 and 2004, right? You do remember that the only reason the Republicans couldn’t steal the 2006 midterms is because for once, for once!, the damn thing was NOT too close to steal. For the first time in a VERY LONG time, the Democratic Party was NOT divided. We were united. We attracted fed-up Republicans. Swing voters supported our candidates by the millions.

And we swept into Congress, state capitols, and Governors’ mansions around the country.

We were UNITED.

The fact that the inept leadership of the DNC had less influence in the individual state elections also helped.

The only way the Democratic Party wins elections is when its coalition members are UNITED.

The Obama campaign DIVIDED the party and they and their Movement Followers comfort themselves with the Hope that they have won the crown.

Every day the realization becomes clearer to them that have lost and that they will lose.

Barack Obama agreed to David Axelrod’s plan to win the battle and lose the war: to ruthlessly split the party in two in order to SEIZE the nomination from the person who had won the hearts and the VOTES of more Democrats in the history of primary campaigns.

Shakespeare anyone?

Hundreds of people ask us if we’re going to Denver. Are we going to march on the convention; demand that Hillary’s delegates are allowed to vote; demand that Hillary Clinton be allowed to deliver a free and honest speech.

Are we going to Denver? You bet your ass we’re going to Denver.

I don’t care if there are only 50 middle-aged women like me standing in the rain with fanny packs and homemade signs. I don’t care if the inept, elitist clowns who have the audacity to believe they in any way deserve to be called leaders continue to pretend to ignore us; continue to attack us like dogs; continue to undermine, ridicule, bully, and harass us. 

Are we going to Denver? Will we be there to witness the final act in the Shakespearean tragedy that Axelrod, Obama, and Dean have staged for us against our will and without our permission?

We wouldn’t miss it for the world.

If you want to go to Denver for front-row seats to the tragedy, pick up your tickets here. We’ll provide a plan, signs, permits, and a film crew. You provide yourself, your fanny pack, your righteous indignation, and your voice.

Donate for Denver if you can. All funds raised will be used to organize Denver. We will buy signs, t-shirts, food and supplies for Pumas to share. We will pay for the cost of filming. All of our work is volunteer. All contributions are not tax-deductible.


If you would prefer to mail a donation to Puma PAC, please use our mailing address:
Puma PAC
The Voice of the Voters
PO Box 556
Carlisle MA 01741
P.U.M.A. PAC, People United Means Action, is the Voice of the Voters. (http://blog.pumapac.org). We are an unconnected political action committee and are unaffiliated with any candidate or candidate’s committee. All money raised is used to fund our political activities, and comes in small donations from individual contributors like you. Contributions are not tax-deductible.

963 comments ↓

#1 jrhed on 07.03.08 at 10:39 am

Good Morning Pumas,

My hot links are updated along with my stop Obama post for the day.

Obama’s Mortgage Mess Deeper Than First Reported
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/obamas-mortgage-mess-deeper-than-first.html

Have a great morning!

#2 cjv on 07.03.08 at 10:40 am

greenfun In response to downstairs post #251 I am posting again:

#251 greenfun
I would like to take you up on that offer as I have plans first thing tomorrow morning to donate to both reducing HRC’s debt along with doanting to PUMA PAC.

#3 cjv on 07.03.08 at 10:41 am

There I go with the typos again….. donating

#4 nativegirl on 07.03.08 at 10:41 am

good morning. a video worth watching. Stay for the whole thing.. he is entertaining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVsXtuQg7tU

#5 Headclunker on 07.03.08 at 10:43 am

Hello PUMAs,

Independence Day is coming. Some dirty dog flagged one of my posts on Craigslist and got it deleted. I reposted http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pol/741022399.html . Their actions substanciate the claim of the post.

Have a great day…Post, blog, talk, and tell them again.

#6 jrhed on 07.03.08 at 10:44 am

I’m back,

Has anyone seen this junk article posted at TPM
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/07/puma-pac-shadowy-connections-b.php

Funny how quickly Obamabots will search for any ridiculous info that they can use to attack people who question their messiah. Also funny how completely ignorant this article is.

#7 PumaAllie on 07.03.08 at 10:45 am

Busy working, but check out the 2 great videos on the front page of http://www.youtube.com/user/PUMAALLIANCE
(both new)

#8 murphy on 07.03.08 at 10:46 am

Video update above.

Please watch now and then come back here.

#9 Bill-K on 07.03.08 at 10:52 am

We all have our reasons why we won’t support Obama. For me I felt it would be a good idea to explain my reasons and perhaps at the same time let some of the lurkers know that race is not the issue.

Why I personally don’t support Obama:
a) Simply put Obama is a fraud. Obama is running his campaign on the “Change, Hope, a new kind of Politics” marketing gimmick. Yes, it is a gimmick. All you have to do is research Obama’s past. Is there anything at all in Obama’s past political career that suggests he has crossed party lines and/or has offered a new kind of politics?
NO In fact just the opposite, look at how Obama became a senator, it was through dirty old style politics by ensuring he knock out his opponents. There is nothing in Obama past that suggests change or the ability to cross party lines. In fact McCain is the one who clearly has crossed party lines. There is nothing in Obama’s voting history to back up anything Obama’s claims.

b) Lack of experience. Obama is a two year senator with one year of that being on the campaign trail.

c) Obama is not trustworthy. Obama continues to flip flop, lie and deceive to gain as many votes as possible.

d) Obama’s many questionable friendships. Obama has surrounded himself with a lot of very questionable people, some of which are very long term (20 years) close friendships. Not sure if Obama shares the values of these people but I do know you can not convince me that some of these people’s beliefs haven’t rubbed off on Obama over the course of a 20 year old close friendship.

e) In the end I am convinced Obama is a serious danger to this country. It is NO longer about the differences in policy issues that McCain and the Democratic Party have BUT about the most important issue – the safety of our country. No difference in policy can be compared to the importance of the safety of this country. Personally I find McCain more centered but that is not the point, the safety of this country is the point.

#10 Bill-K on 07.03.08 at 10:53 am

I figured we all have our own specific hopes and motives of why we are here and thought it might be a good idea if I at least mentioned mine.

My personal Goals or Hopes:
Till the Democratic Convention takes place August 25th my personal goal is to do everything I can to help Hillary gain the nomination. From where I seat I can only see two ways this can happen. Either Obama has a major breakdown in someway (I won’t count on that) or we the people can convince enough Super Delegates to back Hillary at the convention.

This is my personal top priority and I hope others feel the same, to get Hillary the nomination. Along those lines, I think the actions we take should focus on this. I would hope and I strongly suggest that as August 25th approaches that the entire coalition as a whole take daily steps and a concentrated effort at convincing the Super Delegates to back Hillary at the convention. This action I can’t stress enough is the only way I see we can get Hillary nominated, unless I am missing something and please speak up if someone else has other suggestions.

Now to do this the more people who are in the coalition the more power we have and the greater the chances are at a successful outcome. That implies lots of advertizing, getting the word out (fliers, etc), media and lots of ground work by everyone. A strong showing and protesting at the convention and even at Obama’s rallies will aid in this goal.

My second goal is to protest the DNC. This to me has been a little less obvious on how to handle. The reason why I protest the DNC: for the MI and Fl handling, DNC did not stand up to the media bias and sexism that took place against Hillary. I also protest the DNC and party leaders for there constant calls for Hillary to drop out the race in spite of the fact that the race for all intense purposes was tied and Hillary should have been given the chance to make her case at the convention instead of being bullied out by party leaders. No other candidate came closer to a tie and the past has shown us that other candidates have take there case to the convention. Appalling if you ask me, makes me sick every time I think of what happen. I can even find the words to describe how outraged I am over this.

After August 25th Convention and if Hillary does not get the nomination my next top priority is to do everything I can to ensure Obama does not become the next president. That is a whole another topic.

Side note: As much as I wish Hillary would leave the party and become an independent I personally don’t think she would simple because (and it is these reasons why I think she backs Obama) she needs to not only save her political career but if she has any hopes of making any changes, getting any of her policies enacted she needs the backing of these same politicians, she needs the support of them as much as they need her.

#11 Battle for the Hill on 07.03.08 at 10:54 am

#8…saw the video..I’m refocused more than ever.

#12 roxy4hill2 on 07.03.08 at 10:56 am

DNC may shorten Denver Convention by 1 day.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-trailconfab3-2008jul03,0,6789486.story

#13 greenfun on 07.03.08 at 10:59 am

#2 cjv
Thank you!!!!!!!!
I will have your $ 50 donated by 8am west coast time July 4th. Now I can feel like I am part of the- retire her debt- effort tomorrow. Thanks again and have a fabulous day.

#14 cjv on 07.03.08 at 11:02 am

greenfun You’re welcome!
I wish you and all PUMA’s a great day as well. I will post confirming my contribution after it’s done tomorrow morning.

#15 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 11:04 am

You bet your ass I’m going to Denver…got my plane ticket already. Count me in! I have not taken a vacation in 5 years….this is my week….couldn’t think of a better reason.

#16 mcr on 07.03.08 at 11:06 am

WOW! Darragh, what a knock-out blow!

#17 lotts1948 on 07.03.08 at 11:07 am

#10 Bill-K

You said it all for me as well. Those are my goals too, and in pretty much exactly the same order. That is what I want to focus on doing. Contacting the SDs, contacting anybody and everybody who can also contact the SDs, joining the march to Denver in spirit if not in fact, bottom line, what you said #1 priority is to make every effort to try to get HRC’s name at the Convention and a roll call vote that maybe, just maybe, if we can be persuasive enough and if (I hope) Nobama continues to whiffle-waffle, the SDs will realize that HRC is the best bet to win the White House and the ONLY person who cares about WE THE PEOPLE.

#2 goal definitely is to do whatever is within our power to root out the corruption in the Dem party; vote down the elected “heads” of the party, replace them with real Dems again.

#3 goal – IF AND ONLY IF Nobama is the nominee of the Dem party — do everything in my power to make sure he does NOT WIN the White House… then it’s down to doing whatever is best for my country when that is my choice.

I know this link has been posted downstairs, but I’d like to repost it because I think this particular article is very well said and written and talks so much about the history of the corruption of BOTH political parties in these United States. Please read it and realize that, yes, it’s an uphill battle but WE can do it if we do it together. (wow that sounds like HRC.. and that’s a good thing).

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/you-down-with-opp/

#18 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 11:07 am

I got this off RD site:Pumas Clinton search now up in the 3, 260,000 range! Good news!

#19 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 11:08 am

Murphy,
Can’t wait to hear you tonight on no we won’t radio. It should be a great show.

#20 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 11:12 am

Oh good golly! I was downstairs talking to myself again then realized, hey – no one’s here anymore! Geesh, you guys are too quick for me! :)

Anyway, reposting from downstairs:

Pumas, Heidi Li has a rather good list of links/reasons on her blog about donating to retire Sen Clinton’s debt as well as for donating to other Puma related causes and political campaigns. But as she reminds us – make sure you’re donating to your own savings FIRST and foremost. We do not want anyone to get into financial straits due to your donating to all our causes! Do what you can – even if it’s a $1 or $5 donation – it adds up.

http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/07/guide-and-set-of-links-for-donating-to.html

And don’t forget to keep our own P.U.M.A. PAC on your donation list!!

#21 Kempion on 07.03.08 at 11:12 am

Minor Update:
From the Florida Attorney General (office of lacheys):

Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum recently received your email
regarding your concerns. Attorney General McCollum asked that I respond.

Attorney General McCollum appreciates hearing from concerned citizens such
as yourself. I would suggest that you convey your concerns to the Florida
Department of State, Division of Elections, for any assistance and/or
information they may be able to provide. I have listed contact
information for this agency below:

R.A. Gray Building, Room 316
500 South Bronough Street
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0250
Phone: (850) 245-6200
Toll-free in FL: (877) 868-3737
Website: http://election.dos.state.fl.us/fraud/index.shtml

Thank you for taking the time to share your concerns with our office.

Sincerely,
Samantha Santana
Office of Citizen Services

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS E-MAIL. THIS ADDRESS IS FOR PROCESSING ONLY.

To contact this office please visit the Attorney General’s website at
http://www.myfloridalegal.com and fill out the on-line contact form.
Again, thank you for contacting the Office of the Florida Attorney
General.

My reply to their reply was to inform the Attorney General that the State board of Elections governs the CONDUCT of elections not matter of law. Hopefully, more to follow later.

Keep fighting the good fight, you dastardly PUMAs you.

#22 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 11:14 am

#17 lotts1948 on 07.03.08 at 11:07 am
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Sounds like an excellant set of goals to me! Thank you for sharing.

#23 NoObo on 07.03.08 at 11:15 am

To #18 prplvette85:
Where is the RD site? I would like to read it…or can you give us a link? That sounds great!!

#24 bythelake on 07.03.08 at 11:16 am

I am shocked and down right “mad as hell” after watching this video.

Who are these people who have been so hateful to Hillary?

These are suppose to be people we are to UNITE with?

Over my dead democratic body will I ever support such an outlandish display of mockery that this democratic party has become.

Nope, no way!

I am ASHAMED that democrats have acted this way.

I will Remember in November.

#25 greenfun on 07.03.08 at 11:17 am

cjv-I will post my copy of the contribution tomorrow as well.

#26 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 11:17 am

Pumas.

I’m off work today, so I’ll be over working on the Action Center throughout the day, and checking in and out here – amongst getting some real life business done. LOL!

So if anyone has any resource ideas for items they’d like to see us try to work into our Actoin Center, feel free to drop me an email: pa4hill08.puma at gmail or email Murphy and she’ll get it to me.

Thanks all! And keep GROWLING!!!

#27 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 11:21 am

#21 Kempion on 07.03.08 at 11:12 am
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Well, having worked in government for nearly 20 years, I can say their response sounds like a MAJOR case of ‘pass the buck’ – or in other words, ‘I do not want to do my job so I’ll pass it down the line and hopefully it will get lost in “the process” somewhere’.

Keep after them!

#28 fitz on 07.03.08 at 11:29 am

Just found this on Tom In Paine blog
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-supporter-explains-it-all-to-us.html

AN OBAMA SUPPORTER EXPLAINS IT ALL TO US.

MR: So tell me, what has Senator Obama ever accomplished that qualifies him to be President of the United States?

OS: There you go again playing the old politics of the past.

MR: So accomplishment is the old politics of the past?

OS: Yes.

MR: So the new politics, the one Senator Obama and you support and represent is that you don’t have to actually have done anything to be President.

OS: Senator Obama represents hope.

MR: Hope for what?

OS: Hope.

MR: Hope for hope?

OS: Yes.

MR: I see.

OS: And Senator Obama represents change.

MR: What kind of change? from what to what?

OS: Just change.

MR: But it has to be change from something to something. That’s what change is.

OS: Senator Obama stands for a new change in Washington and a new change in politics, ejecting the old politics of the past.

MR: The old politics where you had to actually accomplish something

OS: Yes. And hope and change.

MR: But you cant say what kind of hope and change

OS: Not yet.

MR: Why not?

OS: He hasn’t told us yet.

MR: Do you expect him to?

OS: I don’t know.

MR: What kind of change are we talking about?

OS: A new beginning.

MR: Wouldn’t anyone represent a new beginning after 8 years of Bush?

OS: Not this kind of beginning.

MR: And what kind of beginning is that?

OS: A beginning of hope and change.

MR: If Senator Obama represents change from the old politics why did he use an old Washington insider to vet his vice presidential candidates and then have to dump him because he was involved in shady loans deals?

OS: You’re using that as a distraction.

MR: What’s it distracting from?

OS: Senator Obama’s message.

MR: And what message is that?

OS: Hope and change.

MR: Senator Obama broke his pledge to finance his campaign with public money, something he promised during the primary. He went back on his word.

OS: Sometimes you have to.

MR:.Why?

OS: To fight against the old politics of the past so he can do what the country needs.

MR: And what’s that?

OS: Bring hope and change.

MR: Hope and change for what?

OS: For what matters.

MR: What matters?

OS: Hope and change
.
MR: Okay, so what would be the single biggest change Senator Obama would accomplish if he were elected?

OS: He’s African American.

MR: That’s not an accomplishment that’s genetics.

OS: You’re being divisive. That would be a big change.

MR: But when the country elects the first black President
shouldn’t it be because he or she is the best candidate
and the fact that they are black be totally besides the
point?

OS: No. It’s about hope and change.

MR: Is it hope for change or hope and change

OS: Either one. It’s up to you. It’s all good.

MR: So it doesn’t matter.

OS: No. And he can unify people and bring them together. Help us over come the divisions that divide us.

MR: Then why is the Democratic Party the most divided in its history with almost half the party against him and
most refusing to vote for him?

OS: Uneducated racist Clinton voters.

MR: What flavor Kool-Aid is that?

OS: Cherry.

#29 MamaPuma on 07.03.08 at 11:30 am

Does anyone else have an empty blank above the post where the video or picture should be?

#30 hillwarrior on 07.03.08 at 11:31 am

Ugh. Hard to watch that video…and to hear all the pundits recently (and our shameful Speaker of the House):

Sexism? What sexism?

WE are united, fierce, and undeterred. The DNC WILL be held accountable.

#31 Battle for the Hill on 07.03.08 at 11:35 am

#29 no empty blank here.

#32 heysandy on 07.03.08 at 11:36 am

Fantastic post, as usual, Murphy!

I donated $50.00 to PUMA today and will donate another $50.00 by the 20th.

Would love to go to Denver, but can’t afford it. I will be there in spirit!

#33 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 11:37 am

Heneri…If you are still on. Hillary has to file an affadavit with most states in order to be on the ballot. It cannot be done by us. And we all know she will not do that :(

#34 mpk on 07.03.08 at 11:39 am

Wow what a video! And your statement Murphy is just right on target. The fact the we are organized and getting more organized every day is what concerns the DNC and S. Obama’s campaign. The more we stay on message, the stronger we will be. I read some posts from last night and early this morning. I am wondering if people just get tired and then write things that they wouldn’t ordinarily write or say to a person if we were face to face. Please if you find yourself getting angry at a blogger on this site then take a minute or two (maybe longer before responding or maybe not respond at all. Often what is written can seem more insulting than it was ever meant to be-we can’t see each other’s facial expressions or hear each other’s voice and we miss a lot of what is truly meant that way. As so many have said here and in other places on this site, we have to remain united in our purpose-we don’t all have to agree on all the details to reach our goal-which D. Murphy has written so clearly above. Let’s use our anger to effect real change (not the nonsense S. Obama is talking about) in the DNC and our country.

#35 oscarp on 07.03.08 at 11:40 am

Good morning PUMAS ! I just spoke to an ex-student of mine who works for El Nuevo Herald, a local newspaper in Miami, FL, and I told her about us. She knows people in The New Herald and I told her I would send her the link to visit the webpage and toknow about us, she said she would pass the info to her friends at The New Herald.
People in Florida must know about PUMA, after all, we are one of those who don’t exist for O

#36 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 11:42 am

#23noobo- go to the link on the side———————–>>
CONFLUENCE…that is Riverdaughter.

#37 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 11:43 am

#5 Headclunker on 07.03.08 at 10:43 am

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Good job oh ever alert Puma!

#38 mimi1020 on 07.03.08 at 11:45 am

Good morning PUMAS, I have to share this with you guys. Last night I went to go see my best friend perform comedy at the Improve in Miami, Fl. There were other comedians as well. One of the other comedians started talking about Obama and how the only way he would NOT be president is if the White folks were racist – REALLY? You know – he made it sound funny but it wasn’t to me. Only made me cringe. Then came another Comedian and said how the OLD Horse had been shot and is dead – when everyone was wondering what he was talking about he said “you know Hillary Clinton” then he asked if there were *61 supporters in the room – maybe 20 people cheered and then he asked if we were aware that HILLARY LOST. That’s when I lost it. I screamed out “She didn’t lose!” Then he told me that I was the only one who thought so and then I said “Yeah, me and another 18 million, then he told me “shut the fu.. up bitch” – then I screamed out again – “HILLARY WON” and again he said, shut the F up bitch. Everyone laughed, then he asked who was voting for MCCAIN and I screamed – Let it rain McCain, of course his brilliant answer was “oh you again, shut up”

I had gone with some friends and after the show I was still livid! My friends started asking me questions, u see they have not been following this DNC tragedy, nor do they even care about politics. Well, by the time we finished our conversation 1 hour later, those two friends want me to send them information on PUMA and one will be going to the Mall with me to pass out flyers.

I thank those two ignorant comedians. They brought it up and now we have 2 more PUMA supporters. They are just shooting themselves in the foot, day after day.

RISE PUMAS, RISE!

#39 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 11:45 am

#29 mamapuma: maybe you need to update java?

#40 NoObo on 07.03.08 at 11:46 am

#37 prplvette85 – Thanks!!

#41 murphy on 07.03.08 at 11:47 am

Fitz #28 — brilliant. a la Beckett, huh?

Maybe we should stage this in Denver?

“Waiting for O-doh”?

Hamlet, Macbeth, the Tempest, and Titus Andronicus all rolled into one ugly farce.

#42 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 11:47 am

#23 NoObo
re: “Where is the RD site? I would like to read it…or can you give us a link? That sounds great!!”

Link to Riverdaughter:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/

You can also go to PUMApac’s Action Center:
pumapacusa.com
for more links to PUMA blogs, media and politicians edresses, and a plethora of other resources, announcements, and alerts.

#43 mcr on 07.03.08 at 11:47 am

Re: Retiring Hillary’s debt

I donated $20.08 to retire Hillary’s debt by July 4 as described in Just Say No Deal. I like this concerted effort. I hear that so far over 3 Mil have been donated. Please match me

http://justsaynodeal.com/

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/

#44 jane-pa on 07.03.08 at 11:48 am

morning all . I must say #28 fitz I had a very hard time reading your post cause I kept falling off chair from laughing.Trouble is it is not new it is so his supporters.Great job. thanks for shareing. I needed that. I was saying downstairs that Dems didnt do so goos in May only raised28.1 million. McCain and Repbs. made 45.9 wonder how he likes it. He is spending more than bringing in too. bout time. He outspent Hillary and couldnt bring it in wont any more either.Yahhhh Pumas. Maybe Hillarys supporters ment business no to DNC I havent given any and wont.

#45 jane-pa on 07.03.08 at 11:49 am

Does anyone know how Hillary is doing on her debt. A lot of us are still giveing and dont want Bommy to take crerdit for it.

#46 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 11:51 am

#39mimi- too bad you didn’t get it on video. If I would have been there with you…well….needless to say I’m and Italian with a big mouth…..lol…This is one reason we need a CLOTH SIGN WITH A PUMA AIRBRUSH AND JUSTSAYNODEAL LOGO ON IT…WE CAN UNFOLD AND FLASH AT ANY GIVEN PUMA MOMENT!!!
where is danceswithpumas…she is a graphic artist……

#47 heysandy on 07.03.08 at 11:53 am

Update: Altmire in PA went for Nobama

#48 mimi1020 on 07.03.08 at 11:55 am

#28

That was hysterical – thanks for the laugh, I needed that!

#49 mimi1020 on 07.03.08 at 11:58 am

#36 oscarp, i am also in Miami, Fl and I know the Nuevo Herald well. I passed on the information to the powers that be here at PUMA.

I am in Miami, Fl. If you are also in Miami, let me know.

I am planning a PUMA sign up day next weekend.

thanks

#50 Peg on 07.03.08 at 11:58 am

#32 Cosmeta – all WV Super Delegates on your list have endorsed Obama.

*******IMPORTANT
I can’t find a post or a site I read yesterday – will keep looking – asking people who participated in caucuses and can relate illegal or questionable activity by Obama supporters, to contact them or go to their site as THEY ARE COMPILING CAUCUS IRREGULARITIES AND SHARING THEM WITH THE PROPER AUTHORITIES.

Does anyone here have that information? I think this is a critically important thing to do, as it can call into question the legitimacy of Obama’s ‘win’.

#51 mcr on 07.03.08 at 12:01 pm

Re: Power of HRC supporters: Effect on Reporter Dowd Posted July 3, 2008 | 11:45 AM (EST)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/beth-arnold/maureen-dowd-please-dont_b_110691.html

“This wussy editorial behavior came after some Hillary Clinton supporters complained about Ms. Dowd’s columns. Oh, no. The gall of Maureen Dowd for doing what she does best. She dished out her opinion and wit, which is exactly what The New York Times pays her to do. “

#52 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 12:02 pm

WOW! Murphy, in “Denver” well said – as usual! You nearly brought me to tears (tears of joy and pride) with your truly reasoned and restrained indignation, and purely patriotic call to action in Denver! You say it so dog goned well – why we were all drawn to this place, OUR place in making history happen. We will change things, maybe not entirely in the way that we each seek, but things can and will never be the same in the country and in the Party after we’ve completed our tasks as Pumas. Thank you, Murphy, thank you.

#53 Hillmania on 07.03.08 at 12:02 pm

#44 mcr:
I just matched your donation on Hillary.com, $20.12. I posted also but I don’t know if it will show up.

#54 oscarp on 07.03.08 at 12:02 pm

mimi10, I live in Miami too, you can email me at

ibuyumu66@gmail.com

#55 bellecat on 07.03.08 at 12:03 pm

Happy birthday to you!
Happy birthday to you!
Happy birthday “dear PUMAs!”
Happy birthday to you!…
and many,many more!…

Oh! well, I fell like singing…

Have a woderful growl!

#56 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 12:03 pm

#51 Peg on 07.03.08 at 11:58 am
—————————

If you find it, let me know and I can add it to the Action Center. Thanks.

#57 mcr on 07.03.08 at 12:04 pm

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/cnn_poll_nader/2008/07/02/109439.html

CNN Poll: Nader Garners 6 Percent of Vote

Wednesday, July 2, 2008 5:48 PM

By: Rick Pedraza

“Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader received 6 percent of the vote in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Wednesday, bringing him closer to his goal of participating in the upcoming presidential debates. ”

“The CNN/ORC poll of registered voters shows Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in a statistical dead heat at 46 percent and 43 percent respectively, while Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr received 3 percent of the vote. “

#58 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 12:05 pm

#47 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 11:51 am
——————————–

Great idea! Where is that DWP when you need her.

#59 mimi1020 on 07.03.08 at 12:05 pm

#55 oscarp – just emailed

#60 mcr on 07.03.08 at 12:07 pm

http://thepage.time.com/

Denver Mayor “Can Guarantee” Convention Won’t Be Shortened

#61 ongoinglypuma on 07.03.08 at 12:08 pm

Good morning Pumas! You know, I can’t even watch that video or any videos that show Hillary being maligned, although I know it’s important to keep reminding others of the odious mentality of The O-Pompous One and his minions. Seriously, it just makes me sick to my stomach. Anyway–just wanted to say “hi” to you all & express my deep gratitude to everyone here who is dedicated to effecting change (not the Obama-esque vapid, corrupt kind of change…the REAL kind!)! You’re an inspiration! A shout out to CT PUMAS!

#62 fitz on 07.03.08 at 12:08 pm

Want to make sure everyone knows that “AN OBAMA SUPPORTER EXPLAINS IT ALL TO US.” was written by Marc Rubin of the Tom In Paine blog:
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-supporter-explains-it-all-to-us.html

Marc Rubin also started the Denver Group http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/ with Heidi Li Feldman.

#63 BarbNOBO on 07.03.08 at 12:09 pm

#28 fitz…great article….I heard the same thing on a satellite radio talk show…the same mantra….hope and change….hope and change….roBOTS!!!! One thing I cannot understand is how BO was never veted and he is running for Pres and his campaign is taking all this time to vet the VP possibilities. BO is not even qualified to be VP let alone President!! I am very confused!!!

#64 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 12:10 pm

#39 mimi1020 on 07.03.08 at 11:45 am

——————————–

WOW! Way to GROWL Mimi1020 Rodham Puma!!!!

#65 mcr on 07.03.08 at 12:11 pm

Re: Links to print media: Mark Halperin

http://thepage.time.com/

The Page Links
TIME POLITICS
ABC NEWS’ THE NOTE
BOSTON GLOBE
BOSTON GLOBE POLITICS
BOSTON GLOBE (POLITICAL INTELLIGENCE)
CHICAGO TRIB POLITICS
CHICAGO TRIB THE SWAMP
CHICAGO SUN-TIMES LYNN SWEET
CNN’S POLITICAL TICKER
THE HILL
LA TIMES HOME
LA TIMES POLITICS
NBC NEWS’ FIRST READ
NY DAILY NEWS
TIME SWAMPLAND
TIME WHITE HOUSE PHOTO BLOG
NY OBSERVER
NY POST
NY TIMES HOME
NY TIMES POLITICS
POLITICO
POLITICO BEN SMITH
POLITICO JONATHAN MARTIN
REAL CLEAR POLITICS
ROLL CALL
USA TODAY POLITICS
WASH POST
WASH POST THE FIX
WASH POST THE TRAIL
WASH TIMES POLITICS

#66 vadaryl on 07.03.08 at 12:11 pm

Skip to the four minute point of the tape and I can hear most of those same comments in McCain’s ads. Why did this happen? She is so much better.

#67 Beca4Hillary on 07.03.08 at 12:11 pm

#28 fitz,
What a big joke, people cannot not even say anything, of course, there is nothing to say, just an empty suit. I had a good laugh, that reminds me an interview in MSNBC (Chris Matthews) asking an Obambi supporter to talk about any legislations passed from Obambi, and this guy could not say anything either, even Senator Clinton commented about it!

#68 cosmeta on 07.03.08 at 12:12 pm

Keyword: Clinton’s Letter to the Superdelegates

SENT TO SUPER’s MAY 29, 2008
http://thepage.time.com/clintons-letter-to-superdelegates/

**********************

[begin cut/copy paste]

The Page

Politics up to the Minute
by Mark Halperin | Thursday, July 03, 2008Thursday, May 29, 2008
Return to The Page

Clinton’s Letter to Superdelegates

Dear ___________,

The stakes in this election are so high: with two wars abroad, our economy in crisis here at home, and so many families struggling across America, the need for new leadership has never been greater.

At this point, we do not yet have a nominee and when the last votes are cast on June 3, neither Senator Obama nor I will have secured the nomination. It will be up to automatic delegates like you to help choose our partys nominee, and I would like to tell you why I believe I am the stronger candidate against Senator McCain and would be the best President and Commander in Chief.

Voters in every state have made it clear that they want to be heard and counted as part of this historic race. And as we reach the end of the primary season, more than 17 million people have supported me in my effort to become the Democratic nominee more people than have ever voted for a potential nominee in the history of our party. In the past two weeks alone, record numbers of voters participated in the West Virginia and Kentucky primaries. And with 40 and 35 point margins of victory, it is clear that even when voters are repeatedly told this race is over, theyre not giving up on me and I am not giving up on them either.

After seven years of feeling invisible to the Bush administration, Americans are seeking a President who is strong, experienced, and ready to take on our toughest challenges, from serving as Commander in Chief and ending the war in Iraq to turning our economy around. They want a President who shares their core beliefs about our country and its future and getswhat they go through every day to care for their families, pay the bills and try to put something away for the future.

We simply cannot afford another four or eight years in the wilderness. That is why, everywhere I go, people come up to me, grip my hand or arm, and urge me to keep on running. That is why I continue in this race: because I believe I am best prepared to lead this country as President and best prepared to put together a broad coalition of voters to break the lock Republicans have had on the electoral map and beat Senator McCain in November.

Recent polls and election results show a clear trend: I am ahead in states that have been critical to victory in the past two elections. From Ohio, to Pennsylvania, to West Virginia and beyond, the results of recent primaries in battleground states show that I have strong support from the regions and demographics Democrats need to take back the White House. I am also currently ahead of Senator McCain in Gallup national tracking polls, while Senator Obama is behind him. And nearly all independent analyses show that I am in a stronger position to win the Electoral College, primarily because I lead Senator McCain in Florida and Ohio. Ive enclosed a detailed analysis of recent electoral and polling information, and I hope you will take some time to review it carefully.

In addition, when the primaries are finished, I expect to lead in the popular vote and in delegates earned through primaries. Ultimately, the point of our primary process is to pick our strongest nominee the one who would be the best President and Commander in Chief, who has the greatest support from members of our party, and who is most likely to win in November. So I hope you will consider not just the strength of the coalition backing me, but also that more people will have cast their votes for me.

I am in this race for them for all the men and women I meet who wake up every day and work hard to make a difference for their families. People who deserve a shot at the American dream the chance to save for college, a home and retirement; to afford quality health care for their families; to fill the gas tank and buy the groceries with a little left over each month.

I am in this race for all the women in their nineties whove told me they were born before women could vote, and they want to live to see a woman in the White House. For all the women who are energized for the first time, and voting for the first time. For the little girls and little boys whose parents lift them onto their shoulders at our rallies, and whisper in their ears, See, you can be anything you want to be.As the first woman ever to be in this position, I believe I have a responsibility to them.

Finally, I am in this race because I believe staying in this race will help unite the Democratic Party. I believe that if Senator Obama and I both make our case and all Democrats have the chance to make their voices heard everyone will be more likely to rally around the nominee.

In the end, I am committed to unifying this party. What Senator Obama and I share is so much greater than our differences; and no matter who wins this nomination, I will do everything I can to bring us together and move us forward.

But at this point, neither of us has crossed the finish line. I hope that in the time remaining, you will think hard about which candidate has the best chance to lead our party to victory in November. I hope you will consider the results of the recent primaries and what they tell us about the mindset of voters in the key battleground states. I hope you will think about the broad and winning coalition of voters I have built. And most important, I hope you will think about who is ready to stand on that stage with Senator McCain, fight for the deepest principles of our party, and lead our country forward into this new century.

[end cut/copy paste]

SENT TO SUPER’s MAY 29, 2008
http://thepage.time.com/clintons-letter-to-superdelegates/

Note: the PAGE has a neat tool on the right side to look up

See also the PDF file, sent May 28, 2008.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/05/28/20080527.delegate.letter.pdf

#69 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 12:14 pm

“PRESENT”

#70 Hillmania on 07.03.08 at 12:14 pm

#28 Fitz:
Loved that blog with the BO supporter. Great laugh for the day.

I would love to go to Denver but don’t know if I can. Will be there in spirit.

#52 mci
I can’t stand Maureen Dowd. It’s so easy to sit there and criticize someone who is actually doing something to help this country. Those that can do and those that can’t just talk about it or in her case write about it.

#71 bythelake on 07.03.08 at 12:14 pm

All my “go” + “fish” friends, please reply. You are needed. Must I go fishing?

#72 vadaryl on 07.03.08 at 12:15 pm

#28 That was a great moment when that guy could not come up with a thing and U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones was on too.

#73 bythelake on 07.03.08 at 12:17 pm

Happy Birthday PUMAS!

Thank you Murphy for speaking for all of us!

Your undying dedication is what makes THIS group so special.

#74 oscarp on 07.03.08 at 12:18 pm

mimi, got your email, I emailed u back. thanks!

#75 ongoinglypuma on 07.03.08 at 12:18 pm

Now THIS is a video I can watch (that doesn’t turn my stomach..)! I love Sugar…reading her keeps me sane! This video is going to be making the rounds via my address book.

http://sugarnspice.typepad.com/sugar_n_spicea_meeting_pl/2008/07/current-dnc-bra.html

#76 cosmeta on 07.03.08 at 12:20 pm

Please correct the DATES on my last post…

Those two letters were sent on the same day… one was the open letter and the other was an attachment of the “detailed analysis of recent electoral and polling information.”

The July date represents the date I dowloaded the file and should be disregarded.

IOW,

The letter was sent May 28th
THE PAGE posted it May 29th

So this letter was sent 3 days before the May 31st DNC meeting.

I know you are not superdelegates, but these two files are a MUST READ in order to know your facts!!!

#77 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 12:20 pm

The Video on today’s opening is bittersweet…

…It makes me deeply angry and sad that Barack Obama has not only divided our country like no other politician in the last 50 years, but set into motion “open Season” on verbal violence against women, suppression of freedom of speech and obliteration of democratic principles…

…Is masterfully railroading our Nation’s progress toward racial healing, a more equality-oriented culture and broader awareness that our cultural diversity is a fundamental aspect of what our constitution also stands for… into an agenda all his own (in the name of making political history)

…incited a message that an African American Presidency is somehow confirmation that an African American Agenda is the great equalizer in power needed to accomplish recompense for past injustices (I do not believe the composer of our “national” anthem intended it as a “white” anthem, Ms. Rene Marie… how embarrassingly dumb can on be)…

…further damaged any remaining hope, faith and trust in our political election system…

…On the other hand… the video has also cemented my resolve that his “win at all costs”, including his campaign’s single-handed destruction of our progress is the EXACT REASON to keep fighting the DNC all the way through and beyond the Convention to let our political leaders know…

…You can prostitute yourselves all day long for Obama’s donor $$$ list…

…You can prostitute yourselves all day long for a political promotion that makes you anything but respectable to the majority of American voters…

…You can prostitute yourselves all day long and ignore the fact that you are now the carriers of the disease of un-democratic leprosy, eating away at everything our founders so brilliantly put into place a mere 200 years ago…

…You can change the name of the Democratic Party to “The Barack and Michelle Party” and hold the convention on that lot they prostituted their political careers for to the Rezko bunch for all I care…

…but I am standing on the street and promoting our democracy…

…and my commitment to its preservation IS NOT FOR SALE!

#78 vadaryl on 07.03.08 at 12:20 pm

Who won most of the primaries after that guy could not anwer Chris and not by just a few votes either. Yah I can hear the Obama supporters saying the delegate count was close in all those primaries. Well that late in the game he should not of been blown out.

#79 mcr on 07.03.08 at 12:21 pm

ON OBAMA: Poker is his game of choice — he attended Wednesday night low-dollar games while in the Illinois state senate in a colleague’s basement. What this tells us about the race.

Candidates’ Vices: Craps and Poker
Wednesday, Jul. 02, 2008 By MICHAEL SCHERER AND MICHAEL WEISSKOPF
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1819898,00.html

#80 GOSUEF4HIL on 07.03.08 at 12:21 pm

Hello all-
a bit off topic but I just returned from DC after a nurse practitioner conference.
I spread the PUMA word while there, although most NPs had some awareness of had heard something of us, as most had been HRC supporters (we have this funny thing about health care…)
Anyway- I also had a tour of the Capitol building and left a note at Hillary’s office- I forgot to ask about her flowers! Her office is #SR476 in the Russel building. I felt like it was Mecca for me!
One more update about happenings in the Capitol, made a trip up to Bethesda, thought I was going to spend a leisurely afternoon strolling. Guess again- Obamabots on every corner, asking if I had time to talk about Senator Obama. I would like to say I was as mature as FloridaGayGuy when he was accosted. But I was hot and tired and made it very clear that I wouldn’t vote for Obama if he were running against Satan and that I was a PUMA (and when I said that they both took two steps back). Anyway, not a good scene in front of my kids. But they are all over. Hopefully the McCain people can get groups out there, they are like Stepford wives, very scary.

#81 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 12:24 pm

#54 Hillmania
I posted yesterday twice to ask what amount we were suppose to use for the 4th of July efforts to help pay down Senator Hillary Clintons campaign debt. There are soooooo many different $amounts going around that it is hard to be able to tell where/who/group they are coming from. The original was add .44 on for the original HRC site, now it was said .08 for 2008, now I see .12 for her to run in 2012 (which is not my preference – I thought we were working for the Denver Convention and still aiming for this?)
So I was responded to by 3 regular posters on PUMA to use .08 added on.
If this is going to be a joint effort for Senator Hillary Clinton and the ppl we want to “wake up” and know we are still here, not falling in line, still supporting and donating to “HER” debt and “HER” debt only”, and to fix this mess come the Denver Convention – to me send different messages. Just like the effort to ask everyone that voted for Senator Hillary Clinton to each donate $1.00 and a thank you note did not get the exposure that it needed cause I truely believe that everyone of those ppl (unless your vote was not sincere or you no longer support her) would be able to send $1.00. Her debt could have been paid off in the time it took for snail mail to arrive and the donations counted. Not very long.

Some one posted that they wished all these groups would combine into one big group because power is in numbers. We need this to be done. Although we are all doing are part if we joined forces we would be a majority of the 18 million that we say we are.

I joined PUMA cause I thought it was the “Central Core” of what I believed in and I do believe it is but we need to have other groups merge with us or we merge with them. As with the 18 million voices march …they need ppl on their site to head up states to make this action successful. Together in number we succeed in small number groups we act but will not have the same impact. If we had more time maybe but time is not on our side. The same ppl that got us into this mess are not going to change unless they really “KNOW” how many there are of us. That is the message we need to make. JMO & My .08,.12 or .44 cents

#82 utahpuma on 07.03.08 at 12:25 pm

#32 Cosmeta

Thanks so much for that list. I was looking for it yesterday because I want to contact these folks again.

#83 doria on 07.03.08 at 12:25 pm

I have been disheartened by the McCain campaign’s tepid responses to events and was happy to see there has been a shake-up.

I left a message on his website regarding the Wesley Clark remarks.

I wish a McCain surrogate on the Monday conference call had simply said:

“We want to thank Gen. Wesley Clark. Today, while Sen. Obama was giving a lecture to America on Patriotism, Gen. Clark continues to remind us that Sen. McCain risked his life for our Country.” Period. Full Stop.

(This, of course, would have the added benefit of driving the Obots crazy wondering if Clark was still with Hillary.)

#84 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 12:25 pm

#70 dwp- did you hear our Puma call out growl? lol….I was saying we need a cloth sign with our Puma logo and justsaynodeal logo that we can whip out when any Puma opportunity may arise! I know you can design one lol!

#85 cosmeta on 07.03.08 at 12:28 pm

76 ongoinglypuma…

TypePad is excellent software and is much more versatile than WordPress. Most major networks like CNN use it. The only thing I am not sure of is, if it can be installed on any website or if one needs to host with TypePad. Don’t know the hosting fees… but they say $10 a month for the service, I think.

http://www.typepad.com

Take a look Murphy!

They have a free trial version.

#86 ClintonRules on 07.03.08 at 12:29 pm

Does anyone have any idea how much money has been raised for Hillary’s debt?

Or is that info not out yet?

#87 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 12:29 pm

Hillary’s store is gone :(

#88 MamaPuma on 07.03.08 at 12:29 pm

# 40 prplvette85
I love PUMAs – they help each other
thank you
I am trying it right now

#89 zombiefortruth on 07.03.08 at 12:30 pm

MUST SEE VIDEO!

OBAMA FLIPS ON “JUSTICE AND EQUALITY”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZxJoorJSRw

#90 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 12:31 pm

#88 Taffy… “Hillary’s store is gone”……..

no it’s not… I just went there:

http://www.hillarygear.com/

#91 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 12:32 pm

Note to my Post #82
Not entire post meant as response to Hillmania – just question about the different amount to see what Hillmania heard around and about town.

FYI: On http://www.cafepress.com/wearablehillary you can buy shirts, totes, buttons etc. with 1 of 18 Million on them. I ordered mine today. I am not associated with this site (maybe someone would think so because of my post name) I was given the link by a state organizator of the 18 million voice march. Worth checking out if you want to still speak that message along with your PUMA gear. I still wear mine with my HRC button and now will add this one. To me they all tell the same message wearing them all together. IMO

#92 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 12:33 pm

HaHa! Bitter Politicz has some great ‘Bitter bucks” on their site:

http://camille424.wordpress.com/puma-pac-materials/

Scroll down the right hand side to find the bucks!

#93 zombiefortruth on 07.03.08 at 12:34 pm

MUST SEE VIDEO!

THE JULY SURPRISE!

OBAMA FLIPS ON “JUSTICE AND EQUALITY” HIRES A WELL KNOW “RACIST” TO WORK FOR HIM AFTER THROWING IMUS UNDER THE BUS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZxJoorJSRw

#94 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 12:37 pm

thank you wontbackdown i’ve been to her website several times this morning and gotten an error message when i clicked on store link

#95 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 12:37 pm

Hi Murphy!
I sent you an email. Urgent!

You are doing a great job!

#96 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 12:38 pm

#88 Taffy… “Hillary Store is gone”…

In fact, many of the products still say:

“Hillary Clinton for President”

Where did you get it that is is gone?

#97 Beca4Hillary on 07.03.08 at 12:41 pm

Okay, we all should be aware of this article. What is bothering me is how Obambi still keep bull s….T about Senator CLinton on his page, THE NERVE! At the end you will see Senator Clinton’s new website.

Hillary Clinton attacks against Obama vanish on Web
July 2, 2008
By Christina Bellatoni

WASHINGTON TIMES – Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has scrubbed all negative ads from her campaign Web site and YouTube page, leaving visitors with only the warm and fuzzy moments from her bid for the presidency.

Gone are the attack ads accusing Sen. Barack Obama of insulting Pennsylvanians, ducking debates and making misleading assertions about gas prices. In their place are some of the campaign’s best and most positive ads and multiple “Hillary I Know” testimonials that have a shelf life should the former first lady ever run again.

The whitewashing took place quietly in the past few days as Mr. Obama cut his former rival a check to help relieve her campaign debt and as the Clinton family moved to fully embrace Mr. Obama as the presumptive Democratic nominee.

“She’s no longer campaigning for president,” said Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee. “She’s focused on her work in the Senate, campaigning for Senator Obama and other Democrats.”

Mr. Elleithee said the videos probably are archived.

Also missing are the dozens of speeches and hundreds of press releases running back to Mrs. Clinton’s January 2007 campaign announcement. Many offered reporters details about important endorsements or the scripts of TV ads, but dozens were dedicated to countering the senator from Illinois.

“Misleading attack: Sen. Obama flubs in Ohio,” one release read. Another blared, in capital letters, “NAFTA-gate: False denials from the Obama campaign.”

Also gone are campaign memos, such as Mark Penn’s Feb. 2 “Hillary is the Democrat to beat McCain,” or the May 19 missive by Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson complaining that Mr. Obama was about to declare that he had won a majority of delegates: “Mission Accomplished? Not so fast.”

The only releases left at HillaryClinton.com are a statement about the death of NBC’s Tim Russert and the text of Mrs. Clinton’s June 9 speech suspending her campaign after Mr. Obama earned enough delegates to lock up the nomination.

The separate “Fact Hub” Web site that rebuked the Obama campaign has gone dead, along with “Attack Timeline” that detailed every nasty remark by Mr. Obama or his surrogates during the long primary battle.

By contrast, the Obama Fact Check page on his campaign site still offers rebuttals to Clinton attacks dating back to its creation in fall 2007.

HillaryHub, a site showcasing positive press coverage, also has been removed.

The Hillary TV page that once featured fundraising appeals and dozens of ads — including those with Bill Clinton on a treadmill and the former first couple in a “Sopranos” spoof — now offers just five videos.

In one, she heartily endorses Mr. Obama’s candidacy. In another, she thanks supporters and tells them, “I could not have made this part of the journey without you.”

The site still has her Pennsylvania spot titled “Scranton,” which features black and white photos of Mrs. Clinton as a girl, and the “Dreams” ad in which the senator from New York shows photographs of her parents, talks about the values they instilled in her and promises, “I carry with me not just their dreams but the dreams of people like them all across our country.”

The final video shows Mrs. Clinton and former President Bill Clinton meeting the campaign’s 1 millionth supporter.

Several upbeat videos also have vanished from the site and YouTube page.

Voters trying to view the Chelsea Clinton Mother’s Day tribute are directed to an error page that informs them: “We’ve recently updated our site and we welcome you to explore the new content from the navigation above.”

Although cleaning up a campaign site for the sake of party unity isn’t unusual, the YouTube scrubbing is. Other failed White House hopefuls have left their free campaign “channels” — created before last summer’s YouTube debates — intact, and ads for Republican Fred Thompson and Democrat Joseph R. Biden Jr. are still posted.

But the Clinton YouTube page is missing hundreds of videos, positive and negative alike. Her victory speeches, a showcase of enthusiastic young volunteers and her pledges to keep fighting through the primary season are history.

Yet nothing is ever truly gone in the YouTube age because Internet surfers have spliced, diced and saved every campaign ad of the cycle. Cable networks still can replay the ads, but any blogger who tries to link to the Clinton versions will get an error message: “We’re sorry, this video is no longer available.”

Still intact on the Hillary Hub YouTube page are remnants of some of the nastier moments of the campaign, including Mr. Wolfson’s insistence that he would not accept Mr. Obama’s delegate math unless the Florida and Michigan votes were fully counted, and a Clinton surrogate in North Carolina responding to Mr. Obama’s comments about “bitter” rural Americans.

Also on that page is a clip called, “Confronted w/ facts Obama experiences technical difficulties,” that shows a news report critical of Mr. Obama on the health care issue.

The HillaryClinton.com page is no longer funded by the presidential campaign, and a new disclaimer notes that “Friends of Hillary,” Mrs. Clinton’s Senate re-election committee, is paying for the site. She is not up for re-election until 2012.

Mrs. Clinton will be fundraising for Democratic candidates until the November election using her HillPAC political action committee. Its Web site, HillPac.com, was reactivated this week.

Source: Washington Times

#98 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 12:41 pm

#88 Taffy…… what is intersting… when I went a wekk ago, many of those “Hillary Clinton for President” items had been changed and onlt yhe ones that said to “hillaryclinton.com” remained…

They (“Hillary Clinton for President”) are back, now! (Bumper stickers, pins, shirts etc.)

hmmmm?

#99 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 12:43 pm

her website link to the store wouldn’t open at all for me this morning. haven’t been back to try it. used the one you gave me

#100 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 12:43 pm

Link to the NO-WE-WON’T blog talk radio.
Murphy is on tonight. Check for time (I think it’s 5 PDT).

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

Click on the orange ‘click to listen’ button.
Join us in the chatroom too. Click on the “Chat is Available” link/icon.

#85- PRPLVETTE85
Funny you should mention it. I told you yesterday that I wouldn’t be going to Denver, but this morning I checked mapquest. 1000 miles from me.

I’ve never done signs on cloth but I think I could probably do it … maybe design them digitally and have them printed at kinkos? Ship or deliver them to Denver or just post, or burn to CD and mail to interested parties through the Action Center, and each could get their own printed? What sizes would we want? Would they be just the logos or do we want to add a slogan as well?

Need input and guidance.

Where’s Fred when you need her? (Not that we don’t only need her when we want something, etc.)

#101 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 12:44 pm

#98 Beca4Hillary… it isn’t over til it’s over.

#102 murphy on 07.03.08 at 12:45 pm

TRAVEL TO DENVER UPDATE ABOVE.

PLEASE HELP PUMAS GET TO DENVER!

#103 Fred on 07.03.08 at 12:45 pm

Hi there,,,
Just chilling out as someone suggested – Hillary’s video riled me to no end. I have to do further emailing today.

#104 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 12:48 pm

just a thought…think we should start calling it the demicratic party since it’s getting smaller :) it’s nothing like the one we used to know :(

#105 SusyT on 07.03.08 at 12:48 pm

Good Afternoon PUMAS!
here is a small excerpt from an article on “The Independent” see ya’all later…I’m working.

“What’s becoming clear in this campaign is that for Senator Obama the most important issue in the election is the political fortunes of Senator Obama. He has demonstrated that there really is no position he holds that isn’t subject to change depending on how he calculates it will affect his political fortunes.”

The link for the entire article:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/dominic-lawson/article857672.ece;jsessionid=56770980ED8CE2C064B7033B635B5204?postingType=posting&mode=thanks&postingId=859135

#106 Fred on 07.03.08 at 12:49 pm

Fabric signs ? easy. I can get one of my suppliers from China to make and ship them before convention. Someone can hash it over and let me know size, material or let me figure it out. We need grommets on top in case it needs to be hung up. Graphics we can do. Just tell us the wording. Let me do the artwork since we need to send it to the people overseas…

Go ahead… make as many as you want. The more the merrier… 5,000 units… Now, you are talking BANG for your BANNER.

#107 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 12:52 pm

Re: YouTube… I read an article last night that youtube is now systematically startying to scrub anti-obama videos.

They did not do it in a mass sweep, but it has been going on now for about 2 weeks and are being very subtle about it (one-by-one) trying not to create a firestorm, I suppose.

I didn’t bookmark the article and am trying to find it again.

Just thought evryone might want to know… maybe we need to start using video capturing software to copy some of these videos as the YouTube source files may start disappearing as they are closing tose people’s accounts.

More suppression of free speech.

#108 BillieJo on 07.03.08 at 12:53 pm

Hey Murphy, can the LA bus swing up to the Bay Area of Northern California so some of us can ‘represent’ from here? Thanks for setting up busses for PUMA to go to the convention!

#109 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 12:53 pm

Fred which would be more effective? words or a sharp political cartoon type thing?

#110 deadgirlsrise on 07.03.08 at 12:55 pm

wow, the video at the top of this makes me cry. I have so much hurt and rage over this “honor killing” of Hillary Clinton.

#111 Amarissa on 07.03.08 at 12:55 pm

Hi, dear PUMAS! Please visit my blog at: http://womenstate.blogspot.com/ and read my posting to Streisand (as you know, she is in the news now backing BHO!). Please read it and if you like it, feel free to distribute it.

#112 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 12:56 pm

#103 murphy… WOW! What a feat!

Now we need to start working on getting the word out to theses cities ASAP, so people can start making arrangements and bookings so we’ll know how many buses each city will need!

#113 vadaryl on 07.03.08 at 12:57 pm

How many members are we up to now?

#114 mimi1020 on 07.03.08 at 12:58 pm

OK Done – made my 2 donations. 20.44 to pay down HRC debt and 20.44 to PUMA!

RISE PUMAS, RISE!

#115 Fred on 07.03.08 at 12:59 pm

Mike Dukakis was saying last night on Hannity and Colmes that his suggestion for Obama’s campaign would be to mobilize the grassroots, going door to door, engage everyone, get the word out any way you can. Sounds like something we KNOW we should do and we can do .

No more excuses PUMA’s. You don’t got gas for your car ? Walk to your neighbors and hand them out, ask them to hand them out. Stealth and determination. Use your imagination – NEVER say I can’t – you mind is your biggest stumbling block. I really believe that.

Lets rally around PuMA’s. Blogging is good after we’ve done the ground work. I know many have done a lot and there are many of us that have not stepped up yet. They need to see where they are needed. Hit the ground running.

I also think someone should post the number of days till
D day. That will keep our loopy eyes on the ball.

#116 Hillmania on 07.03.08 at 12:59 pm

#92 1of18milforhil08:
To be honest I’m not sure either. I was going to give $20 but before I donated I checked the Hillaryclinton.com blogs just to see what was going on and the last donor had given $20.12 so I adjusted mine without really knowing the meaning of the 12 cents.
I agree with our mission being Denver so $.08 makes sense.

#117 grlpatriot on 07.03.08 at 1:02 pm

Murphy, in the bold text below the vid, I think you meant “Denver” not “Dallas” –

Let’s help as many Puma PAC members as we can join us in Dallas.

#118 Dreyfus3 NJ on 07.03.08 at 1:02 pm

#28 Fitz:
This post is scary….hope and change????

I can’t even come up with words to describe how I really feel about (if what you want to call it) “interview”. This has to be a joke? Right?

#119 mimi1020 on 07.03.08 at 1:03 pm

#116 FRED.

THANKS FOR POSTING, YOU ALWAYS INSPIRE ME. YOU ARE AN ACTION MAN! I LIKE THAT. JUST AN FYI FOR YOU – I HAVE MADE CONTACT WITH A FELOW PUMA IN MIAMI, FLA AND WE WILL BE HEADING A PUMA SIGN UP DRIVE HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEKEND. I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED!

THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO!

#120 murphy on 07.03.08 at 1:04 pm

YES we will hire a bus from San Francisco, and Detroit, and Cincinnati, and Houston, and Kansas City.

BUT we need help! Please send in $10 and ask all your friends to do the same. The donations to the BUSES TO DENVER button at the top of the page will be used EXCLUSIVELY for buses.

Please HELP if you can.

#121 murphy on 07.03.08 at 1:04 pm

thanks grlpatriot

oops!

#122 Fred on 07.03.08 at 1:04 pm

#110 Taffy :

I vote for words. Cartoons can be construed as un-serious. The right word or words – concise and precise can make a better impact. It is just my opinion.

But send cartoon to me if you want to :
agathalewis@gmail.com

Banners need shipping lead time – two weeks by ocean so we need to get consensus quickly. Please don’t bat this thing around so long. Nothing will be perfect but we have to look like we are organised. Am willing to make more Banners to send to other organisations that have no money.

#123 PumaRhythm on 07.03.08 at 1:04 pm

Happy Birthday Pumas! Sent birthday gift [donation] to pumapac…Pumas Rock!! I’m off to run errands…everyone have a wonderful day!

#124 SARTOM on 07.03.08 at 1:05 pm

It took me a moment to ‘get’ the video! Like who prepared it and why. Sexism? Yes. YET, I can remember at the end how much he emulated her. and, I would say ‘BS’. This video doesn’t bring out the NOBAMA enough. NOR, does it show HILLARY’S ‘best’ enough. She blossomed and her real self came across after 2/08.

Denver is going to be awful. That black jazz female has already aggitated the city officials with choosing to sing the black anthem instead of the NATIONAL ANTHEM. Another Rosemarie Barr!!

Is the video serving any purpose on utube? Can it be removed?

#125 A-Will on 07.03.08 at 1:06 pm

#9 & #10 Bill-K

My sentiments exactly. Well put.

I am still focused on getting Hillary the nomination. The best way I see to do that is to continue to write and pressure our superdelegates. Of course, we have great influence over those who are running for re-election this year! :D I believe one of our members took a lot of time to put together a spreadsheet of all the superdelegates. You can sort by state, etc.

The steps I will be taking in the next few weeks are as follows:

1) Contribute to Hillary’s campaign debt to bring that down for her;

2) Contribute to PUMA Pac to get our ads on the airwaves;

3) Distribute fliers to gain as many disenfranchised supporters to our cause as possible;

4) Beginning in early August I think we should ALL do a huge letter-writing campaign to urge Superdelegates to urge them to vote for Hillary at the Convention. I believe that they continue to be swayed by the media’s “reports” that we will “come around.” They need to know – closer to the time of the convention that not only will we not come around, but that our numbers are growing! These letters need to be sent by email, fax, and most importantly, snail mail.

#126 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 1:06 pm

maryland…my daily growl is coming through blank (x)

#127 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 1:06 pm

Just made a 20.08 PUMA HAPPY BIRTHDAY contribution to the PUMA Buses to Denver Fund.

#128 A-Will on 07.03.08 at 1:09 pm

*ATTENTION TEXAS PUMAS*

I just found this on the website listed at #112 above. Please go if you can.
http://womenstate.blogspot.com/

TEXAS CAUCUS FRAUD HEARINGS – JULY 7
It is very important that everyone in Texas knows about this meeting and people show up, testify and protest. Also anyone with press contacts needs to contact them and get them there. Please forward this to everyone. I know this is a sham by the DNC but we have to make alot of noise. If you witnessed caucus fraud, voter intimidation, or supression, please contact me at drlynettelong@aol.com. Thanks, Lynette Dear fellow Democrats,
I am pleased to inform you the first meeting of the Advisory Committee on the Texas Democratic Party Convention/Caucus System has been scheduled. Headed by Senator Royce West, this first of several meetings will convene at the Austin Community College Health Science Building, Building 9000 in the Multi Purpose Hall room 8500 in Austin, Texas on July 7, 2008 at 10:00am. The campus is located at 3401 Webberville Rd, Austin, Texas 78702.

#129 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 1:11 pm

Fred, are you saying we could potential make 5000 individual signs, or 5000 of one run?

#130 cosmeta on 07.03.08 at 1:12 pm

7 PumaAllie…

I realize that your pc is in your bedroom…
But you need to put on a shirt bro.

#131 loca2525 on 07.03.08 at 1:12 pm

Hey Everyone,

Sorry I haven’t been here for a while, been busy working, but here is a video I found from a very smart individual, please leave a comment on his youtube page, and drive up his view numbers, as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3tDzgzzwQ&feature=related

#132 Hillmania on 07.03.08 at 1:13 pm

My actions for today and this week:
1. I’ve printed up my fliers to distribute today and this weekend.
2. Donated to Hillary.
3. Will make another donation to PUMA next week.
4. Contributing articles to Organize by State PumaResponders.

Growl! Feeling strong!

#133 Missy on 07.03.08 at 1:14 pm

Murphy, can you provide a link to the youtube video above…I can’t seem to find it on youtube. Thanks!

#134 A-Will on 07.03.08 at 1:15 pm

Just donated $20.08 to Denver!

#135 sisterdo on 07.03.08 at 1:16 pm

Okay, probably a repeat but you never know who’ll be seeing something a first time.

People have been asking what they can do, and want to be more grassroots. More efforts are coming up, but right now there are two things that a few lists really want to promote.

INDEPENDENCE DAY……..PLEASE SHOW YOU ARE AN INDEPENDENT, FREE TO VOTE YOUR MIND, AND YOU SUPPORT AN INDEPENDENT WOMAN LIKE HILLARY. We don’t want her to rely on THAT man.

1) $20.08 on July 4th.. please use Dr. Heidi Li Feldman’s link:

Heidi’s link:
https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=3200

2) And, you know about this

JSND has created a radio show and we are trying to spread the word,

tonight at 8PM EST Darruagh Murphy of PUMA PAC will be on, please encourage all to listen, and people can call in as well, the number is on the link:

2) JSND has created a radio show and we are trying to spread the word,
tonight at 8PM EST Darruagh Murphy of PUMA PAC will be on, please encourage all to listen, and people can call in as well, the number is on the link:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

#136 Hillmania on 07.03.08 at 1:17 pm

Daily Gallup Poll:

46% BO
44% McCain

Big question on Morning Joe: Why is BO not up by 15 points?
There is something going on. PUMA!

#137 storytellers on 07.03.08 at 1:18 pm

in regards to the nat. anthem
I am not sure,& I do not have time to look it up
but I think that Eisenhower changed it a little bit, due to the fact that it seems that he was having a “religiuos experience” at the time, and believed that it was a little bit too secular
now, I read somewhere about a black national anthem is going to be sung at gathering @ the boy the 4th of july
is that true??????,
well that is a sacrilege
what is going on with national simbology????????
1rst the seal, ¬ now the nat. anthem¡¡¡¡
are they having an orgy @ nat . symbols?????

#138 Maryland PUMA on 07.03.08 at 1:20 pm

******* PUMA ALERT ***********

The Daily Growl is out. It is priceless.

If you want it emailed: MarylandPUMA@gmail.com with GROWL in subject line.

The file is big so be patient – it’s worth the wait.

Maryland PUMA
******************************************

#139 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 1:23 pm

re: BANG FOR YOUR BANNER

Can we have signs sized for one individual to fold, hold, and boldly display? I’m guessiing 30″ wide (arms length) 24″ high?

I’m going to work on several designs tonight and tomorrow and email to Fred (and Murphy for approval?).

#140 Pretjene on 07.03.08 at 1:24 pm

Just came in my email! WE are gonna be heard! THE MORE OF US that can CONVERGE ON DENVER THE BETTER! IF THEY IGNORE US THIS TIME THEN THEY MIGHT AS WELL HAND THE ELECTION TO MCCAIN!

Hillary Supporters 7/2/08 Free US Now

DNC says no pressure on Hillary’s delegates and there will be a Roll Call !

——————————————————————————–
*July 19 & 20 — 150th. Anniversary and we still have a long way to go Baby. *

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Free US Now supporters I need help with (2) items and I need it now can you help?

#1.I am pleased to tell you that my letter to the DNC regarding pressure on
Hillary’s Delegates to switch got a very fast reply! And I am told there will be a roll call and I am told in writing that Hillary delegates can vote for her.
So now we have to figure out what their next move will be. Keep the pressure on folks we are making them sweat now – I need your help – I can’t do this alone. HELP?

Please read all three letters blow in the order they were sent. Please keep the pressure on! We can not let them think this is the end of the pressure and we are satisfied with this reply. NO NO NO we are going to hold their feet to the Fire – this is our party!

——————————————————————————–

#2. Please write letters to the Editor regarding Ed Rendell and his project HOUND!
This is HARASSMENT – harassment is illegal – Gov. Rendell — Free US Now

He is calling it HOUND – because he wants Obamabots to Hound the shit out of anyone not voting Obama and that includes us fellow Democrats. Are we gonna Stand for that?

If you need a sample letter – copy mine if you must- http://www.free-us-now.com/

but please send in those letters – lets get going – everyone can do this.

——————————————————————————–

1- Letters to the Editor- re: Hounding NOBAMA citizens – This is HARASSMENT

2- Letters to the DNC regarding strong arming delegates and the Roll Call

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Ok so I could also use help with two more things there is a 3 and 4

#3- Please keep sending your names and addresses so we can hook you up with teams in your areas. We have been doing great- remember – we are all in this together – United we can win! What do we want ? Democracy – When do we want it ? NOW! Free US Now

#4- Visit my blog and make comments- I finally figured out how to put the Letter to the Editor on there so you can comment on it or copy it – so please visit? http://www.free-us-now.com As soon as everyone gets on the blog I can stop sending Newsletters so often. Thanks

——————————————————————————–
This is the letter#1 – I sent on behalf of deb b [mailto:debarto@wi.rr.com] who wrote

“As you are well aware, I am the national delegate the Democratic Party wants to strip my credentials because I will not support Obama. I am committed to Hillary only and that is the job I was asked to do. I want to vote for her at the convention. She has not released her delegates. I never received any by-laws and was unaware that I have to vote for Obama in November. I am asking everyone to write and e-mail the Democratic Party of Wisconsin. The e-mail is party@wisdems.org and put it to the attention of the chair-Joe Wineke….

Please let them know that if Senator Obama can not convince me to support him in the greatest arena-the Democratic National Convention, what chance does he have to convince the American people to vote for him? The burden is on Senator Obama. I have one job only and that is to represent those thousands of Democrats that I was elected to represent as a delegate. I have said this before, I am a committed delegate to Hillary only. I was told that was my job and I am sticking to it. Please let the Wisconsin Democratic Party know that they are suppressing my first amendment right!”

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I sent it to: Attention Chair-Joe Wineke. party@wisdems.org; Alice Garmond DNC Secretary AliceGermond@dnc.org Subject line Read: Incumbents Need Not Apply

I would like to know exactly what your intentions are in regard to the Hillary Clinton delegates should they refuse to switch their votes to Barack Obama at the Denver Convention in August?

Under what law can you force your delegates to switch their vote or risk being stripped of their credentials? If there are no laws is it your intention to harass, bully, or otherwise threaten or humiliate delegates into changing their votes?

Perhaps it is your intent to cancel the roll call altogether ?

Please be advised that the Democratic Party as a whole is already in serious danger of being stripped by its constituency of its authority to continue to exist. Further, continued abrogation of the people’s rights to full representation will surely result in dismissal of your services individually as your terms provide us opportunity.

As Mark Twain, that greatest of American satirists and proud son of Missouri, once wrote,

‘Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.’ We may hope that our leaders and our government stand up for our ideals, and there are many times in our history when that’s occurred. But when our laws, our leaders or our government are out of alignment with our ideals, then the dissent of ordinary Americans may prove to be one of the truest expressions of patriotism.”

Bettyjean Kling M.S., M.Ed

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

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This is the letter Alice sent to me and who she copied it to: Subject line Read: Incumbents Need Not Apply Jean Doherty; Philip McNamara; Joe Sandler

II will call the Roll at the Convention as is my honor. Delegates will vote for whomever they choose. Four years ago there were several Kucinich delegates who voted for the Congressman although he had endorsed Senator John Kerry and asked them to honor his choice. Those votes were announced along with the Kerry votes from those delegations.

I am perplexed by your accusatory email but hope this clarifies the concerns you raised

#141 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 1:24 pm

#98 Beca4Hillary and Murphy

The HillaryClinton.com page is no longer funded by the presidential campaign, and a new disclaimer notes that “Friends of Hillary,” Mrs. Clinton’s Senate re-election committee, is paying for the site. She is not up for re-election until 2012.

Mrs. Clinton will be fundraising for Democratic candidates until the November election using her HillPAC political action committee. Its Web site, HillPac.com, was reactivated this week.

___________________________________________

This has been a question that has been asked, asked and asked….but have gotten numerous different answers. If this is the case about HRC site and the management of it – is someone really checking out to make sure that all our donations are going to pay down her debt and would hope who they are checking with is correct and knowledge. After all we had faith in our Party to do what is right/fair/legal and look were it got us. I put nothing pass them and I will be VERY upset if I find out all the money that I have or continue to give have gone in any way to the Chosen One.

If there is an effort for the 4th of July to donate to Hillary Clinton and it is a great idea we need to make “SURE” with all these things that have come to light will not affect our donations or send them to someone else (I think you know who) or that campaign or the Democratic Party or the DNC!

Murphy please give us some answers cause ppl want to and have already donated.
Also PLease see the first part of my #82 post as to the cents amount added onto ones donation and please let us know the one to use.
With all the $ amounts that I have seen all over for the donations before and for the 4th does anybody know where we are at with her debt total?…would like to know how much has been raised so far since suspension of her campaign. It would make a great action point on our behalf if it has been successful.

#142 StarDust on 07.03.08 at 1:26 pm

Just donated 20.00 for Denver. Come on everyone let’s make this happen! Just a little from each can make a lot of noise. The idea for the fabric signs was great(don’t know who suggested it). Thanks Fred for piocking it up and working so hard to contribute to this fight the way you do. Murphy the web design of this site is great just the way it is -don’t change a thing. Other sites should be taking notes from this one, not the other way around. I know by the time I get this short note out the thread will have grown by 50 more posts. This site is phenomenal. I just can’t keep up

#143 william DenverCO on 07.03.08 at 1:26 pm

Today’s YouTube brings out what has been said about Hillary, and the way she was treated. It make me so mad, very mad. I will fight for Hillary and the PUMA pac forever.

On a better note, I just got offered a job, and I am pulling out my wallet/credit card to donate to PUMA (get you guys here…Denver) and to Hillary’s campaign.
I hope all of the PUMA pac comes to Denver!

#144 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 1:27 pm

What about signs that one would wear as a vest…
sort of like an abbreviated poncho? PUMApac on one panel, No Deal or Do the Math, or Just Say No Deal on teh other panel? Gets the message across and allows for hands to be free.

Just brainstorming.

#145 Fred on 07.03.08 at 1:28 pm

I think there are quite a few of us who are feeling a little ‘unproductive’ with all the blogging. We are ready to get out of our cocoon and comfort zone.

Talk is cheap.

It would be a tragedy not motivate our PUMA’s into doing what we are capable of doing. I don’t know about you, I am done sitting on my desk bound ass being angry. There are so many things we can do on the grassroots level and still be the nice civil, law abiding people we PUMA’s are. Those who have the balls do the ballsy stuff – those who don’t, do the less ballsy stuff.

Like my husband always tell me when I am feeling scared and unsure: Go big or go home. If you are going to be a bear… be a GRIZZLY.

#146 mimi1020 on 07.03.08 at 1:30 pm

This event reminds me of HRC’s capture by the DNC and gives me hope that WE can rescue her with a little determination!

BOGOTA, Colombia – Former presidential candidate Ingrid Betancourt embraced her children for the first time in six years Thursday, saying the thought of them helped her stay alive until a daring rescue plucked her and 14 other hostages from the jungle.

RISE PUMA, RISE

#147 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 1:30 pm

#122 murphy… is there going to be aBus from Dallas?

#148 cosmeta on 07.03.08 at 1:31 pm

12 rocky4hill…

An Excerpt From:
The Los Angeles Times
July 3, 2008
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-trailconfab3-2008jul03,0,6789486.story

A short but sweet gathering
July 3, 2008

“The reason is the calendar. This year — unlike in the past, when there was some separation between the two gatherings — the Republican convention in Minneapolis-St. Paul is scheduled to begin four days later, on Monday, Sept. 1. The result, many Democrats believe, could be that Obama would not get the poll number bounce that nominees usually get immediately after being officially anointed.

Ending early, some Democrats argue, would give Obama an extra day to capitalize on the convention.”

*************
That is bull IMO….

The reason they want to shorten the Convention is because the following day the delegates vote in the VICE PRESIDENT and BHO is probably trying to stop a vote for Hillary.

Day1 — Credentials Committee
Day2 — Presidential Vote
Day3 — Vise Presidential Vote

Note: Besides resolving Michigan and Florida and possibly seating them at 100%, the Credentials Committee sets the agenda going foward, I think.

Also, previous rules from the year before do not apply a a Convention… That means that anything goes… Any topic can be brought up… race, genders… even PUMA if they wanted to, I guess.

The only thing is… BHO is now the head of the party and can set the agenda… He apparently can undo years of tradition also. And THAT’s the part that makes me MAD AS HELL….

Change ought not undo our long held traditions!

So I guess we now know what he means when he says the past vs the future. HA! The people will never stand for it… And if he pulls stuff like that, he will alienate the majority of voters…. Cause the young dont come out to vote! WE DO!

#149 Fred on 07.03.08 at 1:32 pm

Remember in a marathon or race – they give you these pieces of fabric with your number – you pin it on your T-shirt ? We can screen print these and if you like, pin it on
the back and front of your T-shirt. Much cheaper than a T-shirt and you can use it multiple times if you can’t change your T shirt at the convention.

I can arrange that – Free – no charge ! … but of course not too many people are interested. Blogging is more fun, safe and easy. Let me keep blogging !

#150 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 1:33 pm

Hi everybody,
I have a question that I haven’t seen answered so sorry if it has been. Can anyone tell me the exact dates we would leave for Denver and the exact dates we would come back? I saw that there was a bus leaving from Kansas City which is about a four hour drive for me but manageable, and I’m wondering if it might be feasible for me to participate. If some one knows the answer could you let me know? Thanks.

#151 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 1:35 pm

I have to leave for a while but if anyone could tell me the exact dates I will check back in. Thank you.

#152 Pretjene on 07.03.08 at 1:39 pm

I would be VERY leary about doing anything through the HillaryClinton.com site, last I was there it had been invaded by Obama bots recruiting for “get over it” and “support Obama” I think we are BETTER donating through Puma and other well established sites and letting the powers that be distribute the money!

#153 PumaAllie on 07.03.08 at 1:39 pm

#131 cosmeta

huh?

I think you must be confused, I’m female.

It’s not me in the vids, I am just sharing them.

#154 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 1:40 pm

#146 Fred

The panels to pin to shirts is much more effcient than the vest/abbreviated poncho idea I had.

There are plenty of us who want to do more than just blogging. Take teh best and ignore the rest.

Would you respond to my question:
re: BANG FOR YOUR BANNER

Were you saying that we could have a run of 5000 signs of one design, or are you saying we could have potentially 5000 unique signs?

I’m going to work on several designs tonight and tomorrow and email to Fred (and Murphy for approval?).

#155 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 1:41 pm

#123 fred i like your word of bat…I can picture a PUMA “batting” at a ball of the dnc (like a tennis ball) just need a saying to go along with it :)

#156 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 1:42 pm

Maryland Puma Help?

#141 Pretjene post
I as well as fellow PUMA’s are more than willing to help with sending ltrs, emails, faxes, snail mail etc….but if this is an action that really needs to be done for the sake of all of us that want to help can this post be put into a “daily growl” or “action alert” so we can print it out and mail it. It is the holiday and ppl are gone and going places. If what we are doing is working then please get it to us in a form we can all do. JMO

Second, I posted earlier a link to http://www.cafepress.com and on there anyone can make buttons, shirts, mugs, etc. There are currently numerous buttons for Hillary with all different sayings. I spoke with a lady and she said you need to download your image (so it has to be someone that knows how to do this -NOT I) and thought we could do one with a PUMA on it? Also there are one that say “1 of 18 Million” under the Hillary (signature) it is a copied version of the signature which they disclose. But I thought we could have some made and sell them and give the profit to PUMA toward are goal to Denver. They cost about 2.50 ea and go down in price the more you order. Just a thought but worth checking out the site.

#157 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 1:43 pm

ok i see the buses would leave on the 24th but how long would we stay?

#158 Headclunker on 07.03.08 at 1:44 pm

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!

I suspect that all the stuff about shortening the convention is Hooey. I believe that they cannot pay their bills – remember the story about them being $15 M short?

#159 william DenverCO on 07.03.08 at 1:45 pm

#146 Fred on 07.03.08 at 1:28 pm
I strongly agree with Fred, so I am going to do my daily calls right after I am done with this message. I encourage all of us to make contact with votes each and every day. We have to get our numbers up. Being in this cocoon will not help us very much. Of course you guys have to plan your trip here.
See you in Denver!

#160 BarbNOBO on 07.03.08 at 1:48 pm

#146 Fred…I’m with you….I want to become active and make a difference here. I am willing to become involved!! We need to stop BO and the DNC’s games before it is too late!! I don’t want to have to use my new bumper sticker after the election that says….Don’t blame me I voted for Hillary!!

#161 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 1:50 pm

#142 1in18 I felt the same way so I called the FEC in Washington and they answered all my questions very patiently. Yours may be the same as mine or different so here is the number but remember it is for EST and they may be closing early for holiday… 1-800-424-9530 When the operator answers tell her/him you have questions about the campaign finacing you want answered before you donate. They were really very friendly people and they are not associated with any candidate :D

#162 BillieJo on 07.03.08 at 1:51 pm

Clink! Just put money in the PUMA kitty for the busses.

Clink! Just gave $20.08 to our girl Hillary to help her swat the *61 bug off her windshield.

#163 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 1:51 pm

Murphy! Do you have a snail mail address to send donations to? PO Box set up? Thanks!

#164 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 1:53 pm

#163 BillieJo on 07.03.08 at 1:51 pm Clink! Just put money in the PUMA kitty for the busses.

Clink! Just gave $20.08 to our girl Hillary to help her swat the *61 bug off her windshield.

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It’s going to take a BIG fly swatter and likely will leave a BIG greasy bug splat afterward! LOL

#165 TrishfromCanada on 07.03.08 at 1:53 pm

Murphy if you are around I sent you an e-mail

#166 PumaAllie on 07.03.08 at 1:54 pm

Not sure if anyone else has posted this, because after a hard working day I have only scanned the posts, but

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/03/breaking-nq-radio-interview-the-denver-group/#more-3415

is a radio interview from the Denver Group.

#167 vadaryl on 07.03.08 at 1:55 pm

Murphy good luck on that blog show tonight at 8. I am listening to an old show and enjoying it. No bashing just good talk.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

#168 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 1:57 pm

#153 Pretjene

Do you know or does anyone know that at the Convention when the delegates vote is it a public or private vote. In other words will ppl know at the time of their vote who they voted for?

#169 DaddysDarlin on 07.03.08 at 1:59 pm

OMG, Murphy, I cant believe that I will actually have a chance to go to Denver!!! This is a dream come true for this fifty year old woman!!! I have no money, I live on my 624.00 disability, but I know that my Puma family will come through for me and others like me, just like they did with the flowers.

Thanks Puma family from the bottom of my heart. I hope and pray that there is a bus that will come through Cedar City, Utah on its way to Denver!!!

I am sooooo happy I could dance!!!

One Love

P.S. I told my daughter this is what I wanted for my birthday, I hope she will go with me, this is her first election and she voted for Hillary!!! I am very proud of her!

One Love

#170 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 1:59 pm

I would have loved to ride with you all, but I have to take care of my 2 grand daughters, so I am going to Denver on the 22nd. If you let me know where you will be arriving I will be there to meet you. I will donate so others can get there. This is awesome…I can’t wait to get home to CO!

#171 cosmeta on 07.03.08 at 1:59 pm

154 PumaAllie on 07.03.08 at 1:39 pm, WROTE,

[[ huh?
I think you must be confused, I’m female.
It’s not me in the vids, I am just sharing them.
]]

Sorry about that…
My apologies please.

Guess I got the usernames mixed up.

#172 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 2:00 pm

There are literally going to be thousands of people in Denver. Last I heard they said around 50,000 just going into the convention itself. this does not include the protest groups which are growing by the day, with or without permits. there will be signs and banners large and small. so items that are small will not be noticed because people will be packed together. just something to think about IMO

#173 Lin4Hill on 07.03.08 at 2:02 pm

Donated $25 for Denver.
Make this happen!!!

#174 bruce55555 on 07.03.08 at 2:03 pm

Hi all,
haven’t had time to blog but I check in and always feel the energy generated by all the wonderful Pumas!
I did send my letters and continue to talk every chance I get and I still come across many people frustrated over what happened to Hillary.
It would be very helpful if we get a snail address that I can give out to people so they can make donations themselves directly. I can suggest that they donate directly to Puma. I don’t want anyone doubting me if I ask for cash which I would never do anyway.
PA4HILL08 this a great idea asking Murphy for the snail address.
I’ll do a little flyer with the address and hand out to people.
Every little bit helps, right?

#175 Fred on 07.03.08 at 2:04 pm

First let me put in a Disclaimer: I will annoy and aggravate some people with my rah rah rah but I am SO believing that this is the second stage of our reason for being here. ACTION. FEARLESS ACTION. Of course common sense rules but don’t be afraid. We have so much to lose by being afraid. So, let me apologize indefinately so I don’t have to do it each time.

BANNERS :
It is not possible to make individually different banner
One banner saying for example “18 million represented here ” needs to have artwork made up, screens burned, and dye changed (if different color). It is quite involved.
It is not llike something you print on your computer.

I can ask to print 1,000 pieces of the same banner so that we can have more variety. But it doesn’t have to be just words, but whatever it is, we need to do it up as “artwork” and send it to me made into film etc. These same “artwork” can be sized down to make T-Shirt panels that you use a safety pin to put on your own
White T shirt.

I will bear the cost of everything I propose – including making the artwork. I just need you all to get an agreement and have Murphy approve (if she needs to approve everything we do, I don’t know – her hands are full) I get frustrated trying to get everyone to approve.
So if someone gives me a list of “words” or image they have agreed to put on a banner, let me know.
Please know that this costs money and lots of time so I want to make sure it will be used. When I receive it, I will ship it all out to command central – where ever it is.

Product and shipping – don’t worry about it. Use the $ for buses and planes and trains…

#176 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 2:05 pm

Plus it will probably be hot and banners make for shade :) Don’t know what people will be allowed to carry around. the security is going to be tremendous! So far denver has said one part of the parking lot will be a demonstration area. but on a side note businesses in the area still have not been told how they are their employees are going to be able to get to work. some streets are going to be closed, no parking in several areas, etc. Some are afraid they will have to shut down during the convention and nobody has yet said they won’t. just saying we’ll let you know as soon as a plan is in place

#177 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 2:06 pm

I know a lot of people are short on money, but if you are not where the buses will be, southwest airlines online has 79.00 specials, depending where you are flying from. I got my ticket from Chicago Midway to Denver for $189.00

#178 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 2:06 pm

#146 Fred – #160 williamDenverCo – #161 BarbNOBO
I am with you also …..time to take action. I am limited medically/disablility wise but I do what I can and sometimes get help. Fred I will do all and have done the things you listed except I will not donate thru HRC site…..see post #141? the site has changed and I do not trust it anymore. It was sugessted to use the Heidili site for the 4th effort to pay down Hillary’s debt.

Also do you know if when the delegates vote at the Convention if it is a public or private vote?

Thanks for getting our Puma blood going today!

#179 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 2:06 pm

* that was a roundtrip ticket.

#180 gina613 on 07.03.08 at 2:07 pm

Greenfun,
On another thread you requested names of sponser for MSNBC. Here is what I have:

From No Quarter: http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/13/democrats-mobilizing-to-hit-networks-in-the-pocketbook/#comment-349678

A group of Democrats are mobilizing to hit the networks, who have publicly and openly shunned and abused Hillary for Obama’s sake despite gross differences in qualifications for the President position. The group is calling for all women involved to write to advertisers on the stations that should they not remove the advertising content, we will boycott their products.

This campaign will start June 23rd and will go on until advertisers will start pulling their advertising. Following are some companies which presently run advertising on NBC.

Contacts to more key advertisers will be provided shortly.

Subway
325 Bic Drive
Milford, CT 86461
Marketing Dept.
Phone: 800-992-6141 marketing department
Fax to Marketing: 203-876-6687

Vagisil
Combe Incorporated
1101 Westchester Ave.
White Plains, NY 10604
Telephone: (914) 694-5454
Toll Free: 800-(873)-7400
Fax: (914) 461-4402
Fax for Marketing: 914-461-4170

Listerine Whitening Strips
Pfizer Consumer Healthcare
235 East 42nd Street
NY, NY 10017
Phone: 1-212-733-2323
Use Regular Mail – Attn: Marketing Department/Listerine and the above address

Wal Mart
702 S.W. 8th Street
Bentonville, AR 72716
1-800-925-6278
Marketing Department 479-273-4111

Maybelline
800-944-0730
212-818-1500

Well, folks, we complain about Obama-media. We say that Obama has not been fully vetted; we say that sexism and misogyny against Hillary (therefore her supporters) has played a role; we say that the media shows favoritism for Barack Obama, and we witnessed how they attacked Hillary.

NOW, I’d like for you to post which TV stations, magazines, newspapers, and big online blogs are Obama-Media. I also want to know which writers, and TV personalities, and radio DJs are in the tank for Obama.

ie: TV: MSNBC and CNN: Which TV personalities attacked Hillary? Which are in the tank for Obama? Which shows?

Big Blogs and sites: I’ve heard complaints about Daily Kos, Huffington Post, Politico, MyDD, AOL Political Machine, TPM, Moveon…do you find this to be accurate? Have anything to add?

___________________

You should boycott, but It’s not just about boycotting. I’ve boycotted Oprah, CNN, and MSNBC, and many big blogs for months, but now it’s time to go after the wallet. We need to go after their advertisers. Please add to the list of advertisers! What are the commercials that play during their TV shows?
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POST FROM: Clinton Democrats:
Linda OKC, on June 13th, 2008 at 1:13 pm Said:
Addendum to Olberman Action Item

Many thanks to Brande for this info below re: MSNBC/Keith Olberman sponsors. Laura

Here are the links on the sponsors:

http://www.campbellsoup.com/faqs.aspx
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat12104&type=page
http://www.ge.com/contact/index.html
http://www.ihop.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=5
http://www.kraft.com/Contacts/contact-us.html
http://walmartstores.com/7663.aspx
http://www.gm.com/corporate/
https://www.ditech.com/about/contact.html
http://www.nissanusa.com/apps/contactus
http://www.officedepot.com/renderStaticPage.do?file=/companyinfo/contactus.jsp&template=companyInfo
https://hdusps.esecurecare.net/cgi-bin/hdusps.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p_sid=8FLOFb6j&xssl=1
https://www.invescoaim.com/portal/site/aim/menuitem.33e9ce03dea2c250a83af864f14bfba0/#email
http://www.eloan.com/s/show/contact
http://personal.fidelity.com/accounts/services/content/sendemailoptions_frame.shtml
http://www.visitlasvegas.com/vegas/footer/contact.jsp
http://ir.united.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=83680&p=irol-contact
http://en-us.transitions.com/contactus.htm
http://www.merck.com/contact/
http://www.bankofamerica.com/state.cgi?section=contact&update=&cookiecheck=yes&page=
http://www.libertymutu al.com/omapps/ContentServer?cid=1003349317293&pagename=CorporateInternet%2FPage%2FStandardDarkBlue&c=Page

#181 JARinFL on 07.03.08 at 2:08 pm

Murphy, “You Go Girl”!! Just had to take time out from my “homework” to respond to your fab “Denver” blog above!! By the time I got to the end of it, I was jumping up and down in my seat hooting and cheering! You took the words right outta my mouth. It’s great to have someone else feel and understand your own frustration and outrage!! (My husband OD’d on my rants a long time ago….) Thanks again!

#182 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 2:10 pm

News Flash
The Chosen One is on Fox live giving a speech to the veterans of SD? I think – I could care less that he is on I switched channels but what is interesting I checked CNN and MSNBC and they are not airing it. Does this strike anyone as odd…..?

#183 Fred on 07.03.08 at 2:11 pm

I am so happy to see the posts in the last few days, eager to DO something.. I can’t name them all but you know who you are.

Please help to motivate everyone. We have to. Think of the alternative.

Ask the family for help. Ask them instead of presents for birthday or mothers day or fathers day next year, give them your time. Request for specific things. help you give out posters, talk to 5 of their friends, anything.
I am asking for birthday gifts for the next 5 years !!
One of them is Denver.

#184 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 2:12 pm

Just donated $25.00 so someone can get on the bus!

#185 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 2:13 pm

#162 Taffy
Thank you for the number – I have decided to use the suggested site of Heidili that was posted on here yesterday and somewhere today. I just do not trust the HRC site anymore….they have done so much to it that it concerns me. Want my money to go to the right place – no way ever to the Chosen One.

#186 storytellers on 07.03.08 at 2:13 pm

I am going to writte an e-mail to a Senator that I know, he is one of HILLARY ´s biggest supporter, and has not yet endorsed the boy, my guess that if they are forced as it seem with time he would endorse, but if he can, I am sure he would not
I will do it tomorrow, today I have no time

#187 vadaryl on 07.03.08 at 2:13 pm

#182 is this a first, that CNN and MSNBC are not showing him? Also is FOX starting to switch to the Obama Express!

#188 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 2:14 pm

Hello all, i wish I was in your country to participate. I work on my project, and i’m very busy, but try to read up this blog regularly, it’s 4am here.

#################################
#173 Taffy “so items that are small will not be noticed because people will be packed together.”

The cheapest thing to do would be for everyone to wear a certain colour, say red. So Pumas will be wearing red jackets/sweathers/tshirts/pants/trackpants. With the square fabric/puma logo attached to their clothing.

***So Pumas will be representing with a sea of people in red. (Very visible and cheap, I’m sure you can borrow a friend’s red jumper, if you haven’t got one.) Best it plain red, and not with other logos. Oh, red umbrella too, with frabric signs attached on top of umbrella.

People who are already in denver can do the same too, dress in red, and print the Puma logo on fabric and just attached it on their clothing.

Or yellow, a more bright colour!

MURPHY/MARYLAND PUMA, have you read my email?
Thanks:-)

#189 vadaryl on 07.03.08 at 2:14 pm

sorry showing him

#190 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 2:14 pm

#175 Bruce hi again. below is the link to document people MUST use if they donate by mail. It MUST be included with the contribution. So just make copies of the form and hand out. then you are not doing any collectin (which become a complicated process!)

https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/mail.html

#191 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 2:15 pm

#142 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 1:24 pm

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If you have question about what she can and cannot do with her primary canpaign debt donations, I would call the FEC. As you’ll note in the information you posted, Senator Clinton has reactivated her hillPAC website for those ‘other’ donations. If you want to make sure that donations go directly toward her POTUS primary campaign debt, and you’re not maxed out ($2300) for that purpose, then you need to use the special link that they’ve provided on her website main page for that purpose: https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=2492#

Before donating make note of the fine print at the bottom of the donation page to make sure that you’re on the debt donation page, and not on her Senate reelection donation page – there are links to both on her main page now, so be careful. So, yes she is now also taking donations toward her 2012 Senate reelection campaign, in addition to taking donations to pay off her 2008 POTUS primary debt to vendors.

There is also also still a link on her debt donation page (get to that through the link listed above) to download the snail mail form if you want to send a check: https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=2492#

Again if you read the fine print on this form, it is clear that your donation is going toward paying her POTUS primary debt and not toward her Senate reelection or the BO campaign (that would be illegal).

Hope this helps!

#192 bruce55555 on 07.03.08 at 2:18 pm

Oh Taffy # 190 thank you, this answered my concern, I was wondering how to do a flyer,
thank you thank you!

#193 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 2:18 pm

Dont wear red in Denver…it is a gang color

#194 shampoovta on 07.03.08 at 2:19 pm

jrhed wrote.

“I’m back,

Has anyone seen this junk article posted at TPM
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/07/puma-pac-shadowy-connections-b.php

Funny how quickly Obamabots will search for any ridiculous info that they can use to attack people who question their messiah. Also funny how completely ignorant this article is.”

Oh dear God,…

lets see. I am a bitch, a racist, a sore loser. Oh what ells? Oh, yah, uneducated ( I guess thats bad now). I am poor, buck toothed and I am against hope!

against hope! That is the stupidest thing any one has ever accused me of. Ya and down with smiles and butterflies!

Now add to that Republican or a Republican stooge of some kind.

They are not listening. This is how we got here. They need to stop being silly.

Oh. PS: I get to be mad! No one gets to take that away. Are Democrats against anger? They sure show plenty when it suits them. No, no anger is fine. It’s what you do with it that separates the Hounds from the Pumas.

I am a Puma

#195 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 2:20 pm

1 of 18 I just checked out Hillary’s site. That has been changed too. If you hit the contribute in the pay down the debt it goes to her debt. If you hit the contribute button on the top it goes to her senate reelection campaign. so probably safer to go to justsayno site or heidi site

#196 bruce55555 on 07.03.08 at 2:21 pm

#190 Taffy sorry, I just went back to the flyer and noticed it’s for checks payable to Hillary Clinton’s debt reduction which I will do but also I need a flyer for people to donate to Puma , do you have one of those?

#197 deadgirlsrise on 07.03.08 at 2:22 pm

From the linked article it looks like Google has been compelled to turn over the IP address of all users who have viewed content
on YouTube
to Viacom. This has the potential for unauthorzed dissemination of PII by Viacom et al as well as potential lawsuits if users
have viewed unauthorized
copyrighted content on YouTube.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/07/judge-orders-yo.html

#198 cate on 07.03.08 at 2:23 pm

Shampoovta: I am MAD too. I just can’t help it. Just seeing that YouTube again made me want to kill.

I just donated $50., and I really want to go to Denver! How long will we be gone? How do I sign up? Forgive me for asking now as I am sure the answer is in the upthread somewhere – but my Mother is waiting at the nursing home and I’ve only got a minute….love you ALL.

I am PUMA

Cate

#199 storytellers on 07.03.08 at 2:24 pm

·187 vadaryl
what do mean by “fox starting to switch to the omabama express???

#200 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 2:24 pm

Yellow then?

#201 IndyPUMA on 07.03.08 at 2:24 pm

July 4th celebrations will be a great place to recruit, pass out flyers and engage in dialogue wrt our movement.

Happy Independance PUMAs!!!

#202 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 2:24 pm

#187 vadaryl
I know that is what I was thinking! I was in on the computer and I heard the Chosen Ones voice (the same old blah blah) and thought it was just a clip…but then I heard that annoying thank you in 6 different tones and pitches of voices…so I needed to switch channels – so I quicked turned to C^^ and M$^&( and he was not on. I said it was Live — so maybe FOX is taking over…I do not watch Fox much except a few programs and when Puma was on….the MSM has pretty much turned me off! Can only handle so much in a day…try to say focus on OUR GIRL and PUMA actions

#203 Lin4Hill on 07.03.08 at 2:25 pm

2 cents – yellow for the suffragettes!
The main thing is that PUMAs who can go are there.

#204 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 2:25 pm

FINALLY… FINALLY… FINALLY!

Black Conservative Group Rips Obama
Washington Post: Radio Ads Call Democratic Candidate A Racist And An Elitist
July 3, 2008

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/03/politics/washingtonpost/main4229936.shtml

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HE USES ANYONE AND EVERYONE… USED THEM TOO! SERVES THEM RIGHT… WE KNEW THIS ALL ALONG!

Obama faces online backlash for centrist views
Obama Faces Rebellion from Group That Helped Him Lock the Nomination
By Kathy Kiely and Martha T. Moore, USA TODAY
July 2, 2008

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=5299337&page=2

#205 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 2:25 pm

#176 Fred
So, you don’t want us to send graphics? You’re going to habdle that?
I need a response. I don’t want to waste my time having my chain yanked.
Thanks.

#206 cosmeta on 07.03.08 at 2:28 pm

51 Peg on 07.03.08 at 11:58 am, WROTE,

[[ #32 Cosmeta - all WV Super Delegates on your list have endorsed Obama.]]

Yes, I know. It’s an old list… Before the last two primaries… So by looking at that list, we can tell who crossed over by COMPARING NAMES—see!

#207 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 2:30 pm

#42 Murphy,

Waiting for o-doh….LOLLOLLOL!!!!!

#208 piepiepie75 on 07.03.08 at 2:30 pm

Whoo~

I just got my form to switch my registration from Democrat to Independent.

#209 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 2:31 pm

#192 Bruce you’re welcome.. it would be sad to send donations then not let them be used :(

#210 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 2:31 pm

#191 PA4HILL08 and #195 Taffy
Thank you soooooooo very much for your responses and links. Using the suggested Heidili site sounds good.

#211 mcr on 07.03.08 at 2:32 pm

#106 SusyT on 07.03.08 at 12:48 pm
Good article
The comments re “Abomination” were mostly negative:
1. As a lifelong Democrat, I have a terrible choice to make this November. Either pick Obama, disengenous, with seeming radical associations, inexperienced, arrogant, narcissist opportunist (but a Democrat)…

2. I supported Senator Obama and voted for him in the primaries. I was caught up in the hope and change fervor(even sent him a donation). To hear him speak is inspiring and powerful. Now I feel like a fool and have a severe case of buyers remorse.

3. Obamination

#212 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 2:32 pm

Barack Obama…

“HE” THE PEOPLE USER… GENDER-RACE ABUSER… NON-DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL BAMBOOZLER!

#213 cosmeta on 07.03.08 at 2:34 pm

#70 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 12:14 pm, WROTE,

[[ “PRESENT” ]]

Just don’t push the wrong colored button!

#214 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 2:35 pm

#200 MadLogic and #203 Lin4Hill

Did anyone hear the stuff about what you can and cannot wear, etc, drink etc at the Denver Convention? Is this stuff true and if it is – it has to be passed on to those going.

#215 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 2:35 pm

piepie check before you change. we have a primary aug. 12. there are a couple of down dems I WILL VOTE AGAINST!! I called our voter registration and they are swamped with changes. they couldn’t guarantee I would get my new card in time. result…no card no vote. and i want my vote!! we have until oct 3 to change parties to vote in ge here. check your state unless you don’t have another primary coming up.

#216 william DenverCO on 07.03.08 at 2:37 pm

#195 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 2:20 pm
Taffy, you may have to check to see if I am correct on this, but I remember hearing that after a certain date, that any contridutions would be collected under her Senate campaign. I believe it would be safe to contribute directly to Hillary’s web link. Someone else here might be able to support me on this comment.

#217 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 2:37 pm

#213 cosmeta…#70 DancesWithPumas (LMAO)

#218 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 2:37 pm

#175 bruce55555 on 07.03.08 at 2:03 pm
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Absolutely agreed. Take a look at the Denver Group’s nice clean setup (http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/), complete with FEC rules pertaining to donations, and snail mail addresses, etc. Of course it was set up by a marketing expert and a lawyer, so what should we expect I suppose. ;)

Anyway, it’s a simple rule of marketing and fund raising – who would you feel more comfortable giving your money too, the guy who provides all the answers up front in a clear and concise and professional way, or the one who by appearances is not being forthright by providing contact information, addresses, phone numbers for donation questions and the like? And please, before I set off some sort of flaming warfare on this blog similar to what we had last eve, I am not saying that Murphy is not being forthright and not 100% on board with us here in the PAC by any stretch of the imagination! But solely in the intersest of organizational efficiency only, I have seen questions raised time and again on our blogs about our fundraising, and how to send in snail mail contributions, etc. and I think if they were answered up front, it would make our fundraising that much more efficient.

Simply, I wonder how many people may have turned away from donating to our causes because we do not make it that easy and transparent for them? Although as we all know, crooks can certainly set up some pretty snazzy official looking websites, in my humble opinion, the more professional your website donation pages appear, and the more options provided for making payments, the more donations you’re going to get!

Perhaps this is something that Murphy is working on – and I’m sure she’ll make it know when it is done. In the interim I just think it would be nice to have a snail mail address listed somewhere on the site so people do not have to keep asking for it in these blogs or emailing Murphy over and over.

#219 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 2:39 pm

1of 18 nothing has yet been said about what will or will not be allowed. What people are hearing out there is for the convention itself. denver is trying to make it a “green” convention. In other words changing the lighting, doing tons of recycling, etc. as far as for the masses, nothing along those lines has been set. Again it’s only for people allowed into the convention.

#220 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 2:39 pm

#214 1of18MilforHill08.
Sorry not sure, perhaps if Murphy think this is a good idea then she’ll check it out.

#221 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 2:39 pm

#210 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 2:31 pm

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Welcome! ;)

#222 ongoinglypuma on 07.03.08 at 2:40 pm

204# wontbackdown:
Finally it hits MSM! But I have been reading The Black Agenda Report for a few months…and believe me they have NOT been feeling the BO-love over there! For a while, till PUMA and Allies arrived they were one of the only voices of BHO dissent and reason.
http://www.blackagendareport.com/

#223 christine moore on 07.03.08 at 2:42 pm

Congratulations PUMA.. Keep up the good work.

#224 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 2:43 pm

#223 ongoinglypuma… thanks for the link… I’ll check it out.

#225 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 2:44 pm

1of18 denvergroup was set up by marc rubin (tominpaine) and heidi. they have a link there as well to pay down debt

#226 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 2:45 pm

#219 PA4HILL08. “And please, before I set off some sort of flaming warfare on this blog similar to what we had last eve”

I hope all have kissed and make up :-)

#227 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 2:48 pm

#223 ongoinglypuma

Re: http://www.blackagendareport.com/

Wow! Excellent commentaries! Thank you for the link.

#228 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 2:49 pm

#226 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 2:45 pm
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Me too! I’d hate to lose any of them!!

#229 bythelake on 07.03.08 at 2:50 pm

Daily GROWL done! Snail mailed the top 4 contenders on the GROWL email on postcards that I sell in my store. They have the city and state on the front where I’m from. Nice postcards to be giving to these clowns, but message is sent!

#230 sweetpea on 07.03.08 at 2:51 pm

Just sent $20.08 to retire the debt.
Don’t comment on blog, but read everyday and support Hillary 100%.

#231 cosmeta on 07.03.08 at 2:51 pm

#83 utahpuma on 07.03.08 at 12:25 pm, WROTE,

[[ #32 Cosmeta
Thanks so much for that list. I was looking for it yesterday because I want to contact these folks again.]]

NP. Just remember it’s an old list and things have changed since then. Also there might be something up on the Action Center… check there as well.

See also my next post…

#232 Pretjene on 07.03.08 at 2:52 pm

BEWARE all FELLOW and FEMALE PUMAS! THIS blogger started this site to CONFUSE people! SHE is an OBAMA BOT! SHE WAS NEVER FOR CLINTON and SHE CREATED this SITE to mislead people AWAY from Murphy and the REAL PUMAS! SHE even claimed (on earlier posts) that PUMAPAC.ORG is run by REPUBLICANS and that MURPHY was getting rich off of donations! WE need to make sure that OTHERS see through this here is the link and watch out for her and the Obama Sheeple!

http://pumas4change.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/we-have-moved/#comment-309

#233 scathcart on 07.03.08 at 2:53 pm

Hi everyone, I just completed my letter for the daily growl. I sent a whole page to each but in H. Deans I included bitter bucks and in #61 I included bitter bucks and copy of flip flops. I also got to use my PUMA stamps (had to buy .17 cent that are picture of large ram with big horns) I hope that is ok. Also I received e-mail from a Buffy Wicks,state director for the Obama campaign in Missouri. Congratulating me for supporting #61 and asking for more help. I have never done anything to support Obama. A gun to my head could not make me support that fraud. I sent back a rather nasty e-mail and told her to never contact me again, Sorry, I just could not help myself it made me so angry. I also invited her to come to reason and join the PUMA PAC. I know she will like that. I am just so angry right now. I cannot believe I would be on that e-mail list. I’m sorry but I am down to my last $5.00 until July 21. At this time I cannot send money for the busses but will when I get paid. Reading everyone’s comments is the only thing that helps me settle down. PUMA

#234 Pookie on 07.03.08 at 2:56 pm

Could someone please tell me what the bot stands for after obama. just curious.

#235 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 2:57 pm

#232 Pretjene. They won’t go far, people’s feelings/emotions are so entrenched now, they’ll move over here or similar sites soon enough.

#236 bythelake on 07.03.08 at 2:58 pm

Where’s the link for Hillary’s debt?

#237 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 2:59 pm

Here is the Statement on Hillary’s Own Site Regarding Contribution and their intended purpose: (she could not make this statement if it were not true – it would be illegal)

Confirm Your Eligibility:

1. I designate this contribution for 2008 primary election debt retirement.

2. This contribution is made from my own funds, and not those of another.

3. This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization or national bank.

4. I am not a Federal government contractor.

5. I am not a foreign national who lacks permanent resident status in the United States.

6. I am at least 18 years of age.

7. This contribution is made on a personal credit or debit card for which I have the legal obligation to pay, and is made neither on a corporate or business entity card nor on the card of another.

https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=2492

#238 michelle47 on 07.03.08 at 2:59 pm

I just watched the opening thread video, I am in no way a sap but that made me cry. Everyone talks about how closely aligned Senator Clinton and Obama are on policy, well frankly I don’t give a damn. I firmly believe that any self respecting democratic woman should have cast their vote for Senator Clinton and the ones that did not should be ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES.

#239 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 3:01 pm

#236 bythelake… see bottome of post #237

#240 ladyhawkke on 07.03.08 at 3:01 pm

#88 Taffy I went to the store a little while ago and there was still a lot of stuff. I saw the brown Hillary shirt I have with the turquoisse letters that say Hillary. Also, I was looking at that poster of Hillary for $40, would have gotten it but it’s too big to frame.

#241 TajM on 07.03.08 at 3:01 pm

Murphy, godspeed! I’m just glad that we will not have to every worry about a President Obama…yelch, the very term makes me dry heave.

Obama seems to be the 2008 reincarnation of George McGovern, who won only MA and DC in 1972. Their campaign logos are identical, and their coalition consists mainly of college students and minorities. McGovern tried to redesign the nominating process, and now Obama’s relocating the entire DNC to Chicago.

The GOP is waiting to deliver a death-blow to Obama after Denver. They want to make sure Hillary isn’t the nominee, because they will loose to her. But, mark my words, another Eagleton-esque (or worse) controversy will come out and the Rev. Wright/Ayers/Rezko stories will be milked for all they’re worth.

So my bet…Obama wins Illinois and Hawaii. If anything.

#242 Pretjene on 07.03.08 at 3:03 pm

An Obama Bot, is like a RoBOT, it has no real emotions, only those its programmed with, its not a free thinker like all of us, its just a “machine” that regurgitates BHO and MO sayings, and when you try to reason with it, it shuts down like an ATM machine that you entered the wrong passcode too many times, its really annoying because you WANT to REASON with it, but you can’t, because it is PROGRAMMED and only SPITS out that DATA!

#243 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 3:08 pm

ladyhawkke it was down eary this morning. the site has also been changed again so maybe that was why,

#244 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 3:10 pm

i would love the poster too but now the money from store goes to her senate reelection. I want to get her debt paid down.

#245 TrishfromCanada on 07.03.08 at 3:12 pm

239 cosmeta

Cosmeta, we have a database on the action page that shows the endorsements and contact info for SD’s, Senators and Governors, this keeps the info in one place and does not clog up the blogspace

#246 tree on 07.03.08 at 3:12 pm

176 FRED

I still like my slogan “NO THIEF FOR CHIEF”

TREE
PUMA

#247 Roxy in cali on 07.03.08 at 3:12 pm

Murphy,

What is your e-mail address? I need to get a hold of you.

#248 BillieJo on 07.03.08 at 3:14 pm

NY Times is showing that *61 is softening the blow for another potential big flip-flop:

Senator Barack Obama said Thursday the United States cannot sustain a long-term military presence in Iraq, but added that he would be open to “refine my policies” about a timeline for withdrawing troops after meeting with American military commanders during a trip to Iraq later this month.

Mr. Obama, whose popularity in the Democratic primary was built upon a sharp opposition to the war and an often-touted 16-month gradual timetable for removing combat troops, dismissed suggestions that he was changing positions in the wake of reductions in violence in Iraq and a general election fight with Senator John McCain.
Link: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/obama-open-to-refine-iraq-withdrawal-timeline/index.html?hp

This is another big deal! He won many Demo voters by bit@h slapping our girl for believing that Iraq was a threat after 911. Here goes another light bulb moment for voters. By the time November rolls around and *61 actually goes to a few of these middle east countries and is educated……he will transform into God knows what. How many of his kool-aid drinkers are scratching their heads these days?

#249 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 3:14 pm

murphy@pumapac.org

#250 Headclunker on 07.03.08 at 3:15 pm

Murphy Email

murphy@pumapac.org

#251 bruce55555 on 07.03.08 at 3:16 pm

PA4HILL08 #219
You’re right, I never thought of all that, this site grew so fast there’s so much to be done!

#252 mpk on 07.03.08 at 3:17 pm

I’m not sure yet that I can go to Denver but I’ve sent in my $100.00. PUMA needs a BIG presence at the convention

#253 ladyhawkke on 07.03.08 at 3:18 pm

Good work, Murphy. I just donated $10 toward the buses for Denver. I would love to go but just got back from Prague in May. By the way, they don’t like Obama, think he is backed by Muslims.

Also, sent Hillary $25 yesterday by snail mail as I enclosed a poem and will donate $5.44 to McCain tomorrow.

Here’s the poem:
YOUR FAITH

The path to fame and fortune is … a long and toilsome road … and few are those who have the faith … to carry the great load … because a thousand pitfalls lurk … at each and every turn … and so you must beware of them … if success you’re to earn … then too, there are a million words … meant to discourage you … but if you shut your ears to them … you will come smiling through … you will find rocks of jealousy … to hinder your advance … but use them as your stepping stones … and walk with upward stance … and you will know, I’ll guarantee … a new and brighter sun … because your faith will help you through … until at last you’ve won. Ben Burroughs “Things of the Heart”

#254 Roxy in cali on 07.03.08 at 3:18 pm

#s 250 & 251 Taffy & headclunker,

Thank you.

#255 Fred on 07.03.08 at 3:19 pm

Banner up date:

In the works, discussing with Murphy.
If you have some good ideas of what the banner should say, please list it out. We are taking ideas, not opening for discussion as not enough time to get Banner done if we banter about it too much.

#256 FelineFire on 07.03.08 at 3:19 pm

Hello fellow Pumas,
I’ve been with you for a few weeks now, but have spent more time reading the blog rather than commenting. Anyway, I just want to thank you for all of your great work. You make me proud to be a part of this team.

Also, if you haven’t laughed much today, I recommend that you go to: http://obambi.wordpress.com/ and check out Obambi’s Bus, “The Barack Obama Flip Flop Express”. Perhaps you’ll pass it on the way to Denver. :)

#257 BillieJo on 07.03.08 at 3:20 pm

#242 TajM…..The GOP is waiting to deliver a death-blow to Obama after Denver. They want to make sure Hillary isn’t the nominee, because they will loose to her.

I think this is true too, but wonder when the right wings will pull out their big guns in this election. So far, *61 is really not getting the brutal attacts that Demos usually get. Hillary was getting attacked more while she was running.

#258 BillieJo on 07.03.08 at 3:21 pm

Flippin’ right-wings, where are you when we need you to blast *61?

#259 bruce55555 on 07.03.08 at 3:21 pm

This happened almost 4 months ago, it’s been on my mind, I know we all know what we’re dealing with and we’re all on the same page with the same goal.
My husband is registered democrat and voted for Obama Jan. 29 in Florida, for which he’s still kicking himself but at that time he liked what he saw and heard, the no-Washington stuff, no blue or red states, etc. all that baloney. Back in March when things were starting to happen he realized his big mistake, regretted his vote, and would say things like “I wish I could get my vote back”.
I myself am registered independent and couldn’t vote in the primary.
One day in March I was on one of the media blogs, I forgot which one, and wrote in, “I made a big mistake, Obama’s not what I thought, should have voted for Clinton, she’ll be our next president, I want my vote back, etc. etc.” Almost immediately I was viciously attacked by a blogger, & one thing she told me is “you didn’t even vote for him”. I responded politely, said I did vote for him and regret it, etc., and the blogger came back even more vicious again telling me I didn’t even vote for him, I should have, I’m a liar like Clinton, Clinton is trash, worthless, etc. .
That of course scared me off, I never went back.
Always wondered, how did she know that I didn’t vote for him?
One thing I did note, all Hillary supporters were also attacked.
These people and this NObama campaign is extremely organized, which is truly a cause for alarm.
But we all know this, sorry to take your time, I just had to write it, thanks.

#260 ladyhawkke on 07.03.08 at 3:22 pm

#242, #258 Even if they wait until after the convention and Obama is destroyed, surely Obambi would have to drop out and Hillary can take his place. Yes we can!

#261 Fred on 07.03.08 at 3:23 pm

“NO THIEF FOR CHIEF”

I like…

Murphy, can we have some ornery ones ?!!

#262 pa dem on 07.03.08 at 3:25 pm

Fred: I can help with the fabric cutting and whatnot. Are we cutting out the letters or painting the words on the fabric? I don’t know how to screen print, but I can use a paint brush just fine! What words are we using?

We need something while we are waiting for our T-shirts to come in.

#263 bythelake on 07.03.08 at 3:27 pm

#240 THANK YOU, donated!

#264 Missy on 07.03.08 at 3:27 pm

Gina, I have a list of MSNBC sponsors, brand names, addresses, phone and fax numbers. Anyone that wants me to send them an attachment can email me at mussypuma@gmail.com

#265 tree on 07.03.08 at 3:28 pm

262 Fred,

Thank you, I just hope it will be used and approved of, of course
TREE PUMA

#266 utahpuma on 07.03.08 at 3:28 pm

Here’s the latest on Rezko from today’s Suntimes

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/1037607,CST-NWS-watchdog03.article

“The settlement had Rezko giving Kelly a small stake in a 62-acre South Loop site that Rezko was trying to develop. The property is now controlled by Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born billionaire. Kelly got a loan for an undisclosed amount from an Auchi company earlier this year. It’s unclear if that’s tied to his stake in the South Loop property.”

I find it very unnerving that Rezko deals with an Iraqi-born man who is said to head the Syrian mafia. This is the Rezko who is a friend of our wannabee President????

And this doesn’t bother anyone!!!!

#267 Missy on 07.03.08 at 3:28 pm

Murphy…or anyone…do you have a link to today’s video — I cannot find it on youtube. Would like to send it along to my daughters. Thanks!

#268 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 3:29 pm

***My YouTube account was hyjacked***

Very strange. I’ve been posting on YouTube to support PUMA videos. I have my computer set to sign in automatically. I just realized my account was hyjacked by a roxy. When I attempted to login to my account I got a message saying my login information was incorrect. Now I waiting for the email to reset the password and it has yet to arrive.

Unbelievable!

****Watch you YouTube sign in****

#269 zombiefortruth on 07.03.08 at 3:29 pm

MUST SEE VIDEO!

THE JULY SURPRISE!

OBAMA FLIPS ON “JUSTICE AND EQUALITY” HIRES A WELL KNOW “RACIST” TO WORK FOR HIM AFTER THROWING IMUS UNDER THE BUS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZxJoorJSRw

#270 bythelake on 07.03.08 at 3:31 pm

Okay, donated to buses and PUMA! Someone wear a slogan for me!

#271 zombiefortruth on 07.03.08 at 3:31 pm

Politico.com

HAS STARTED SCRUBBING ANTI OBAMA STUFF AS WELL!!!

#272 MamaPuma on 07.03.08 at 3:33 pm

ACTION ALERT ACTION ALERT ACTION ALERT
Murphy just sent you two letters. They are a copies of the Post above anouncing that PUMAs are going to Denver. There is a wonderful bragging fact sheet at the end.

Above the letter are instructions and a list of emails. The first list in the first letter is to the media, the second is to the politicians.

SEND SEND SEND

Be sure to capture Donna Brazile’s reply and forward it to Murphy with Brazile in the subject line.

Happy Birthday PUMAs

I put my email in to see how many get sent. My mailbox is filling faster than I can empty it.

You are wonderful PUMAs

#273 fedupdem2008 on 07.03.08 at 3:33 pm

Hello All!

I DEFINITELY agree with Bill K (#10)!! Am in agreement in actions–except for the last, in what to do should HRC as Pres this 2008 fail. I cannot promise a JM vote from me in Nov(ugh; I don’t know if I could live with myself; Plus, voting for JM seems against some of the underpinning principles for actions like PUMAPac!?). I prefer to focus all now on HRC success for Pres in 2008 right now. Should it fail, perhaps a write-in vote for HRC, a protest action for my personal principles, knowing most likely write-in votes will be counted for the party’s official candidate.

On this related points–I have been increasingly uncomfortable with the strong Anti-Obama, AND strong Pro-McCain tone of JSND coalition members, including at times our PUMA blogs:-(!!!

I believe PUMA’s overriding message, mission statement should about STANDING FOR, & thus STANDING UP for principles. Not only for our own individual self-respect, but for the credibility of our grassroots *movement* & all our right to claim the RIGHTGEOUSNESS of our struggles to act, to be heard, to be supported by the public.

We DO have a righteous cause, we CAN stand on the higher moral ground if our movment is FOR HILLARY CLINTON and FOR DNC/ELECTION REFORM!

PLEASE, let us NOT stand for, or devolve into, a SELF-RIGHTEOUS movement! Let us not lose sight, let us not turn this rare, once-in-a-generation opportunity, this historical time, this important movement, become nothing more than about standing AGAINST BO and/or FOR the GOP!

I know JSND coalition blogs don’t all have the same mission to elect HRC in 2008 & hold the DNC accountable, but I believe it is PUMA’s…right? PUMA is a registered PAC, which if I’m correct, carries certain expectations to members as compared to an independent blog or site…? I do not know how integrated or formal relationship with PUMA are all the sites & blogs on JSND. This is in no way a condemnation of JSND & fellow pro-HRC sites but an appeal for clarification & assessment of how unified our mission statement & goal…? Perhaps I am spurred by the ‘shake up at the JM campaign’ which is scattered in message & means;)

I see amongst PUMA’s rights as a PAC the legitimate role of pursuing legal recourse against primary, voter violations. Some have already led the way for such actions (A.SPECTOR; FL ACLU). Legal action always takes a very loooong time (FL is still working on election 2000 suit!). I worry that we will miss this short window of opportunity to pursue any possible legal means, such as an INJUNCTION against DNC holding the Convention until roll call/ballot names questions are resolved & guaranteed (or for the even more egregious illegal acts claimed below).

I know attorneys are bright & creative & I know we have many many of such amongst PUMA who are qualified to research, evaluate, creatively examine all possible legitimate reasons to file…Perhaps even grounds for a Restraining Order(?) against ‘entities’ such as the DNC/Delegates/BO supporters, etc..? Perhaps I’ve been watching too much Law&Order;) but I fear we are overlooking the means, especially in the time before the Convention & Nov., to achieve something that is unquestionably unassailable (ie, legal acts) & thus, difficult to ignore by the DNC, MSM, & general voting public….Am I totally in wishful-thinkingland;)…?

Below are some legitimate, valid reasons gleaned so far, that seem favorable for grounds for legal actions.

–CAUCUS FRAUD;
–Pick & choose DNC Rules enforcement;
–Violation of Federal law & Constitutional voters’ rights;
–Deliberate mis-interpretation of ‘Fair Reflection’ doctrine;
–Violation of congressional members’ OATH of OFFICE as per Dem Party & Federal requirements;
–Abuse of position, powers, trust vested in delegates by their local constituents;
–DNC Cmte leaders’ collusion & manipulation to influence primaries & media coverage;
–DNC head party leaders’ intimidation & threats against state-county-city level Dem party leaders, including claims of threats to withhold DNC Pty support & resources for their local campaigns, should anyone make public, follow up on, let alone investigate vigorously, the overwhelming numbers of registered complaints of voter interference (that is, at least “not until after the convention & election”);
–Voter abuse, outright cheating, busing in of out-of-state (primarily fm Chicago) voters in non-resident state caucuses;
–And not least of all, blatant opportunistic expedient fear-mongering campaign against fellow democrats with Roe v Wade & Supr Court threats (also local against local level Dem pty leaders)

In sum, I would not want PUMA continued to be identified as an “Anti-Obama” or “Pro-McCain” or “Shadow GOP/Rove” in media coverage & public representation:-S. Rather than negative goals, I believe PUMA is about constructive, empowering, valid actions for standing up & righting egregious, illegal, outrageous violations of citizens’ rights & laws. I hope I am correct in this vision…?:0)

More than any other time, this is a once in a generation moment where the opportunity for a momentous change & extra-ordinary leadership, is truly possible! These chances, these times, are rare and consequential…we cannot let this opportunity pass!!!

Thanks for allowing me to air my 2cents;) I hope they are constructive & contribute to advancing our commitments (whatever individual preferences they may be):-]

Thanks to all & Go PUMAS, Go HRC!!:-D

#274 KYkitten on 07.03.08 at 3:34 pm

Good afternoon PUMAs– I haven’t been able to catch up on downstairs too much ( i really hope any fall-out has been resolved, but I think when this many passionate folks get together, a few cross words are bound to happen), but I did complete the daily growl and the email assignment ( they all of course thanked me for contacting them lol)! felt good :) I won’t forget the 20.08 either and intend to donate for transporation to convention. I wish I could go, but alas I cannot. My three children will be in school. I hope to live vicariously through my PUMA sisters and brothers kicking some a$$ and taking names :) in Denver. oh and finally Happy birthday PuMa and happy Independence Day to every American! I am sure we will get a full report on how patriotic MO and Bo will look and be this coming weekend…..Stay cool cats!

PS that soccer daddy obama piece on cnn almost made me lose my lunch today!

#275 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 3:34 pm

OMG!!!!!!

I just reset my password and all my videos have been scrubbed!!!! I put up ONE anti-Obama video months ago, but ALL my videos (most were other business) were scrubbed!!!

#276 michelle47 on 07.03.08 at 3:36 pm

Is tha actual floor nomination to take place on august 25th, just want to make sure, I am going and want to be there on the day of the nomination. The dates say the 25th through the 28th. Does anyone know?

#277 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 3:36 pm

If there are any computer types on right now, would you please post what to do to scrub your system. This is really disturbing.

I have lots of spyware and pop-up blockers. What do I need to do? Clear my cookies???

#278 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 3:39 pm

OK Emails sent, but the Pelosi one was returned as undeliverable.. Already recieved my auto responses from Today and ABC..lol

#279 MamaPuma on 07.03.08 at 3:41 pm

PUMAs the letters just keep coming!

It is making me cry.

We really are making noise. GROWL

You are truly wonderful, each and everyone of you that is sending these letters.

While I typed this 10 more came in

#280 kat on 07.03.08 at 3:41 pm

Hi Puma’s,
Let’s keep up the hard work and tenacity!!
I can’t go to Denver but what about considering having some sort of specially designed t-shirts, mugs, etc. for those of us back home to wear to promote our mission and to support those that are going? What do you think? When we buy them that money would go toward that fund. I know there isn’t a lot of time but thought it might be a cool idea. I know I would buy something. Just wanted to share that with you.
Just sent in recently for 2 PUMA mugs too. :)

#281 liloleme on 07.03.08 at 3:42 pm

Sent mine off. Pelosi’s came back to me, too.

#282 mimi1020 on 07.03.08 at 3:44 pm

GOT MY CALL TO ACTION VIA EMAIL….. ALL EMAILS SENT!

PUMAS GOING TO DENVER! (YOU BET YOUR ASS WE ARE!)

#283 MamaPuma on 07.03.08 at 3:45 pm

Donna Brazile sent me this message

And you will be met by an even larger movement. Stop the hate!!! And to think you have no one to send this crap to. So you send to pro Dems. Stop the hate!!!What pitiful state you must be in to send this around.

#284 MsBinMD on 07.03.08 at 3:46 pm

MAMAPUMA -
You have mail.

Real issues with email situation from the other day for me at gmail. More in the email.

Have made donations to Hillary and sent off emails re Denver.

Alohapuma – Having serious problems myself. Wish I could help. My son is going to attempt to clean and check my system this weekend and I have all kinds of protection as well. But they got me through my gmail accounts. Do you have security ptogram?

#285 Seattlegirl on 07.03.08 at 3:46 pm

I’m glad to hear PUMAs are going to Denver. I know I sound like everyone’s Mother but I just want to bring up the altitude so you are not surprised by it. Denver is one mile high and it has 17% less oxygen than sea level. So it is harder to get enough air (although you will adapt in a day or so) and you get sunburned really fast. A fair number of people who come from sea level feel very sick for the first few days they are there. There is no way to predict who will feel bad and sometimes it is the persons who appear most healthy probably because they push themselves. Being dehydrated makes it worse. So just be careful and watch out for each other. You know what kind of people you have been dealing with in the DNC. I fully expect the “free speech zone” to be a mile from the convention, in a black top parking lot with no shade, no water and no chairs.

Also I hope you try to stay in private homes. I know you think you don’t know anyone in Denver but think of groups you are in. Church, Temple, Scouts, Union, Professional org, Bike club, what ever you do and call those sorts of folks in Denver to see if anyone has a room. I always let guys from different bicycle clubs and girls soccer teams stay at my house when they are in my town it saves them money and I can help them figure out where they need to go.

#286 ClintonRules on 07.03.08 at 3:46 pm

I’m sure many of you know this but I just have to say I find it interesting that Google was the site that shut down those anti *61 blogs (I know they’re investigating and everything) A friend tells me there’s something in *61′s book (i believe it’s the Audacity of Hope) that refers to him being friends with some of the people in charge of Google.

He’s also close to one of the founders of Facebook (a site which may have helped him out during the primaries.)

And I see that the news is now reporting on how some of McCain’s acquiantances may hurt him…yeah, the news isn’t one sided.

#287 sandtraps on 07.03.08 at 3:46 pm

Going to Denver emails sent.

#288 rob3gd on 07.03.08 at 3:47 pm

Spadina Avenue at Front Street West Bridge (Buffalo, NY)
Spadina Ave @ Front St. West
TORONTO, ONTARIO, CANADA
Buffalo, NY 14201

Today I got the following message from Democrats Abroad. Apparently, they too are on board with promoting Obama before he is the official nominee and before the convention. If you know of ANY Americans who can get to this event in the name of PUMA then let them know about it. Actually, if you could help blog about it and pass it around…there will be a better chance of a PUMA for Hillary meeting in T.O.

I have written the head of this organization and told her that that I was disappointed to see she was following through with her plans to do this. She is an Obama supporter and always was but, to her job is to uphold the principles of the democratic party not to go on an Obama rally before the convention for dems abroad. If you were a Hillary supporter you were hardly able to network with anyone else here who was because we have flat out Obama endorsers running things.

Here is the information for her “event” and where it will be. Let PUMAS know!!

#289 mrjerbub on 07.03.08 at 3:52 pm

Sent ‘em as best I could. I got an error on Ms. Pelosi and CNN. I think I’ll sent it to AC360 & the Situation room. I’ll google Nancy’s addy. I really feel like I’m doin’ sumptin’ Yahoooo.

#290 Fred on 07.03.08 at 3:52 pm

CRY tears of DETERMINATION !

IDEA : ENTERTAINMENT at DENVER
Someone needs to organise all the videos. bring a projector and screen. Huge.. and put them all on repeat loop. I think there is PUMA here that is an ADOBE maven – pls identify yourself. Lets elect her to take charge of this tech stuff. Put it on your lap top and loop all the different U tube videos – especially the ones by FILNEO – I think he is a genius talent.

Play it during the convention. Put it on a few other lap tops so we can have it going on at different places..
I think it will get people’s attention that have not seen it.
We have to start downloading all the video’s otherwise they will disappear due to obama’s ‘stop the smear’ campaign. He obviously does not believe in Free Speech or he believes no one should state the truth about him.

#291 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 3:52 pm

MsBinMD

I do have a security program. I don’t know enough about to tell you. I would appreciate any 411 you discover or your son discovers over the weekend. Thanks!! alohapuma@gmail.com

fedupdem I agree with you regarding Hillary as President in 2008. Miracles happen mostly when they are pursued!!

#292 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 3:54 pm

#290 Fred

Great idea!! They need to be saved before YouTube scrubs them.

#293 murphy on 07.03.08 at 3:55 pm

I’ll be interviewed tonight to talk about Puma PAC
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/no-we-wont

from 7-8pm.

#294 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 3:55 pm

Jesus. I asked for clarification of a simple item regarding signs, wasted three hours waiting for a response, and nada. No wonder so many are stuck in the quicksand of blogging.
Money talks, the rest walk (or wait) in this case.

Sign suggestions:

FAIR REFLECTION

The unDemocratic Party

Count the Votes

No to the DNC Selectee

Hillary Won

Erase Racism

ciao.

#295 MsBinMD on 07.03.08 at 3:55 pm

Okay I have to share this and then I have to get some work done.

I knew that my location is ripe for destruction of my fliers and signs, so I got this crazy idea for the fake money that can be printed out from the action page.

Lots of 4th events tomorrow and , ( not that I encourage littering) I am going to gracefully drop hundreds of bills and let them scatter as I walk around areas. Hope it is a windy day.
Who doesn’t pick up money!! Probably stick them on anything I can find as well.
I think it will get alot more attention than a sign.

Happy Birthday Puma and Happy4th to all!

#296 murphy on 07.03.08 at 3:56 pm

Our mailing address is:

Puma PAC
PO Box 556
Carlisle MA 01741

Please spread the word.

I will post it on the site and on the ACTION CENTER.

Thank you!

#297 piepiepie75 on 07.03.08 at 3:57 pm

Sent out the mass e-mail to both the media and the politicians! Hope my e-mail doesn’t get flooded with spam from them now.

#298 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 3:57 pm

Dances

Sorry…I was catching up and missed your post. I vote for

No to the DNC Selectee

or

Hillary Won

We do need forum software. Chock it up to growing pains.

#299 pa dem on 07.03.08 at 3:58 pm

Everyone: We need some PUMA power on this poll.

http://www.padems.com/

On the main page, there are some polls regarding whether we should “get over it”.

#300 Fred on 07.03.08 at 3:58 pm

I hate to tell you folks…. Donna Brazile (the black Obama supporter in case some people dont’ know her)is right in what she says…. “At Denver, you will be met with a bigger movement ” – Obama’s movement. You and I may never have seen it before but be prepared to be overwhelmed by his followers. If you think we are big, wait till you see his followers .

No time to loose – WE NEED TO PANIC – WE NEED TO SCRAMBLE – WE NEED TO MOBILIZE. TODAY.

#301 MamaPuma on 07.03.08 at 3:58 pm

I wish that all of you were here with me right now listening to the click, click, click . . .

The number of emails is so wonderful, coming and coming.

What a marvelous birthday present.

We are really being heard today because of your work.

#302 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 3:59 pm

Thank you for contacting my office.

Congressional courtesy prevents me from replying to emails if I cannot determine that you are a constituent of mine.

If you are not a resident of California’s 8th Congressional District and are contacting me in regard to my role as Speaker, please email me at AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov.

If you are a resident of the 8th District of California, please contact my office in Washington, DC at (202) 225-4965 to be added to our database.

HMMMM seems Speaker Pelosi has now taken the “hide from the movement” role…… OMG PUMA’s have scared another DNC leader…. roffl

#303 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 3:59 pm

Hey, PUMAs! Happy Birthday! If you did not get an email today from me with a youtube link (that some awesome PUMA shared somewhere – forgive me – have had no sleep and just happily overwhelmed with gathering the excellent ideas, links, letters, resources, you all are sharing), please email me at

dragonflypuma@gmail.com so that I can add you to my list. One of my roles for pumapac is to encourage! I will do my best (little dragonflies permitting – they are darling and needy) to send an email to you daily with something to galvanize you, strengthen you, inspire you, and thank you for your wonderful energy.

GO HILLARY! Let’s take it to DENVER!

Dragonfly Rodham Puma

#304 Your northern neighbour on 07.03.08 at 3:59 pm

Just donated to the Bus fund. Please go fight for the silent millions that cannot be there.

#305 Party Unity... got Kool-aid? on 07.03.08 at 4:01 pm

¡Feliz cumpleaños! PUMA
Thank you for making the mass mailing so easy.
Mexican Puma

#306 fedupdem2008 on 07.03.08 at 4:01 pm

Hello MURPHY & All!

Read on NYT blog a poster who referred to freeware programs that track comments…the one listed is StatCOUNTER.
It tracks comments to their source; said it cut down on alot of flaming & attacks-vital for blogs.

This program (or others like it? (not a techie;)) seems absolutely vital & should be installed to protect Murphy & PUMAs! — AND to document all attacks, abuse of internet/cyber crimes, and ideally, identify who are the biggest offenders!

MURPHY–also have been researching cyber-crimes & ways to report & protect. Here’s some of what I’ve come across:

A formal complaint & report must be filed asap to!: http://www.cybercrime.gov/

FBI Task Force Solely for cyber crimes:
Federal Bureau of Investigation – Cyber Investigations – Cybercrime
“The FBI and the National White Collar Crime Center have set up a clearinghouse for triaging cyber crime complaints called the Internet Crime Complaint Center (iC3)(cubed)….”
http://www.fbi.gov/cyberinvest/cyberhome.htm

http://hublidwdcybersecurity.blogspot.com/2007/08/cyber-stalking.html
Blog forum-definition of Cyber Stalking:
“Cyber Stalking can be defined as the repeated acts harassment or threatening behavior of the cyber criminal towards the victim by using internet services. Stalking in General terms can be referred to as the repeated acts of harassment targeting the victim such as following the victim, making harassing phone calls, killing the victims pet, vandalizing victims property, leaving written messages or objects. Stalking may be followed by serious violent acts such as physical harm to the victim and the same has to be treated and viewed seriously. It all depends on the course of conduct of the stalker.”

Will continue as 3 links are the max, yes? :)

#307 KYkitten on 07.03.08 at 4:02 pm

@292 there’s a site where you can find recently deleted youtube videos- they are not deleted off their server permanently for a little while ( not sure how many hours/days) i will find the link hth– did you mean your videos were scrubbed from your computer though or youtube acct?

#308 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:02 pm

My dear Fred, we are ready! We speak the truth. We walk our walk. We talk our talk. We are guided by the PUMA totem – that wonderful Animal who teaches us to be brave, true to ourselves, watchful, and ready to defend our tribe.

#309 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:02 pm

Probably should say “pride” in true big cat fashion. ;-)

#310 ladyhawkke on 07.03.08 at 4:04 pm

Just got two e-mails from Murphy requesting action to send the message “Pumas Going to Denver” to all the news media and politicians. Let it be written, LET IT BE DONE!!!
Had to redo the Today Show one as it came back and re-sent it to: today@nbcni.com

Wonder what nasty Donna B. will have to say about this. Probably stop the hate and spread joy. LOL!

#311 ipotter on 07.03.08 at 4:04 pm

Thank you. Sent the emails. Wouldn’t mind going to Denver, what days? Hotel recommendations? : )

#312 tree on 07.03.08 at 4:04 pm

294 /dances

Dont forget mine “NO THIEF FOR CHIEF”

TREE PUMA

#313 fedupdem2008 on 07.03.08 at 4:04 pm

Hi again,

Well, it seems this page will do a much better job of sites listing & descriptions (some say DKos, HuffPo, etc. have used these means themselves…!)

http://www.lib.msu.edu/harris23/crimjust/cybercri.htm

#314 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 4:04 pm

OK Polls taken.. Back to the emails.. oh dragonfly.. email for you

#315 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:04 pm

Hey, Freddie, will you be the hawk, the one who flies above and identifies dangers lurking beyond so PUMAs are ready for action? The HAWK totem magic includes the call, which you have been issuing, for us to watch for signs, to gather strength and resolve. You are awesome. Keep flying, Hawk.

#316 cosmeta on 07.03.08 at 4:05 pm

246 TrishfromCanada on 07.03.08 at 3:12 pm, WROTE,

[[ 239 cosmeta
Cosmeta, we have a database on the action page that shows the endorsements and contact info for SD’s, Senators and Governors, this keeps the info in one place and does not clog up the blogspace]]

Well… someone asked and I supplied some info. I thought that list was interesting because it was arrange by date. Sorry about the length… Murphy has my permission to remove it.

As to your PDF action file…. I CANT READ IT!

The size font is way too small.

You have to remember we seniors don’t have good vision as the younger generation.

Stil…. my apologies….
Tell murph to remove it for me, please.

#317 william DenverCO on 07.03.08 at 4:06 pm

#305 Party Unity… got Kool-aid? on 07.03.08 at 4:01 pm
Compadre! como estas? Glad to have you join us!

#318 DWPforHILL on 07.03.08 at 4:06 pm

Sent the message “Pumas Going to Denver” to all the news media and politicians as requested. Go, PUMAs!

#319 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 4:07 pm

Thank you fedupdem

I’m filing a complaint asap.

This scares me. It’s one thing to read about it happening to other people, but when it happens to you…WOW! I’m reeling right now!

#320 liloleme on 07.03.08 at 4:07 pm

Donna Brazile sent me this message

And you will be met by an even larger movement. Stop the hate!!! And to think you have no one to send this crap to. So you send to pro Dems. Stop the hate!!!What pitiful state you must be in to send this around.
**********************

I received a response, too, but different. Part of it (most important part)

I want to draw your attention to the first one, which implies that the PAC was formed to support Clinton during the primary run. But if you look at the date on the PAC form, the PAC was registered on 6/3/08. Clinton officially dropped out on 6/7/08, but for days before, it was basically known she was out.
I would like to argue that this PAC was not formed to support Clinton, but to support the media narrative about hysterical feminists, and to help the McCain campaign with goals #1 and #2.
I bet similar digging would show that a lot of PUMAs aren’t exactly what they’re claiming to be.
Update: Looks like I’m not the first person to do a little simple fact-checking.

My response:

It’s extremely hard to decipher your message and read between all the broken links. I don’t think you understand MY take on the primary and MY objections to the presumptive nominee.

My party – the Democratic Party – stole votes from some of my fellow citizens and delegates from some of my aggregate states. Senator Obama upheld that decision. I watched the entire happening unfold on CSPAN. I waited for the debates and discussions after the lunch break, only to find decisions had been made – behind closed doors – during the break. That did not reflect the Democracy MY country was based on. Speaker Pelosi then went on to say to Greta Van Susteren, after being told that some Democrats did not like the caucuses and thought they were unfair, that “that’s something that may can be changed, but we can’t change the rules in the middle of the game.” Well, sorry, you all did.

Furthermore, comments like “I bet similar digging would show that a lot of PUMAs aren’t exactly what they’re claiming to be” and “Looks like I’m not the first person to do a little simple fact-checking” truly disappoint me coming from someone that holds partial responsibility of naming the next Democratic Presidential Nominee.

#321 NC4Hill on 07.03.08 at 4:08 pm

Emails done.

Beward of the incorrect cnn.com in the first round. I had to delete before sending.

Thanks DM!!

Happy indy day (so true, so true now that I’m unaffiliated/indy at this point)

#322 Beca4Hillary on 07.03.08 at 4:10 pm

#300 Fred,
Those people don’t scare me, this is America, freedom of speech. Believe it or not, I am planning to pass flyers in Orlando by myself. I know I am going to be harassed, but I am sick and tired of bullies. Yesterday was a big day for Colombia, a terrific women was rescued from the hands of bullies, terrorist, and mean people. She is a senator too, running for president six years ago, and she never lost faith in God and her people. That is why she is happy today and reunited with her family. I believe that one day, God willing, Senator Clinton will be president, we do not know when, we just need to stay together and have faith too. Will see…

#323 william DenverCO on 07.03.08 at 4:11 pm

#320 NC4Hill on 07.03.08 at 4:08 pm
I used news.cnn.com I google for an email address, but could not find one, so I used news.cnn.com.
So far it has not been returned.
I hope they get millions and millions of emails!

#324 KYkitten on 07.03.08 at 4:11 pm

@320 me too- it just said cnn.com as the last address in the list, so i deleted it– my program wouldn’t allow sending w/ o deleting it–

#325 MsBinMD on 07.03.08 at 4:12 pm

Well I am trying to go get some work done, but I saw this on Foxnews and just wanted to alert everyone!

“Your YouTube Views Revealed
Google throws users to wolves as Viacom gets OK to access info about every visitor, four huge hard drives to be turned over”

Is this legal?

#326 BigCatLover on 07.03.08 at 4:14 pm

Just snail mailed my $20.08 contribution to Hillary.

Murphy, I’ll be listening to your interview on the radio tonight.

#327 mrjerbub on 07.03.08 at 4:18 pm

Donna (The Mean) Brazile send me a sarcastic reply. I love this stuff.

#328 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:19 pm

fedupdem2008 – thank you for the info on cyber complaints! alohapuma, hope you are okay. haven’t caught up yet.

#329 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:19 pm

mrjerbub – Donna is so closed off. she makes me sad.

#330 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 4:22 pm

Donna,

I really couldn’t care less about Murphy’s past…. this is about the future!! Now I suspect the next email from you will accuse me of being a republican “plant”. I have never voted or supported a republican candidate in my life. You are welcome to look up my campaign contributions. My name is James _ _____ __ and my zip code is 65459. You can disparage the PUMA’s, but you will never stop us! We will be here doing what Democrats have been doing for a long time. Launching a protest over an obviously grevious eror in American Politics.

James
Dixon, MO
P.U.M.A PAC Member
Voice of the voters

This was my reply to donna and her “form” email….

#331 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 07.03.08 at 4:23 pm

I’m still at work but just a few comments.

For Banners – I haven’t read all of the posts so if I repeat forgive me.

“Don’t drink the Kool-aid”
“No we won’t”

To those who don’t have much money. I print out the business cards on regular copy paper. There are about 10 to a page. I then cut them out and put them on car windshields of the people who park next to me. I also give them out with money at fastfood restaurants etc. You can get a lot of bang for you buck with those.

Now back to work! (Me back to work not you guys – I know you are working)

#332 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:23 pm

liloleme – thanks for posting the Brazile stuff. Murphy is keeping a log of that too if you want to email her.

It is misogynistic of Donna to talk about “hysterical feminists.” She is a disgrace.

#333 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:24 pm

333 MuchAdo – great ideas!! inexpensive, easy, effective

#334 notfollowingthepiedpiper on 07.03.08 at 4:25 pm

Just saw this posted on straw poll ( a beautiful solid red btw). Don’t know if a PUMA posted it, so it may be a repeat here, but I think it says it all to those who want to say BO and Hillary both stand for the same things:

“HILLARY IS NOT A MARXIST!

HILLARY IS NOT A RACIST!

HILLARY DID NOT DINE WITH THE NOT SO REVEREND FARRAKHAN!

NOR DID SHE ENGAGE IN HATE MONGERING!

HILLARY IS NOT CAPABLE OF DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY!

HILLARY IS NOT MARRIED TO A PERSON WHO HAS CONPIRED TO HURT THE OTHER RACES, IN FACT JUST THE OPPOSITE.

NO WONDER HILLARY’S SUPPORTERS ARE VOTING FOR SENATOR MCCAIN IN DROVES!”

#335 StarDust on 07.03.08 at 4:26 pm

#327 MsBinMD

Looked up Viacom I got CBS (sorry I didn’t know what this company was, others might) I don’t understand why would CBS of all people be looking into hard drives ( maybe FBI something like that, but CBS???!!) I’m confused -who is Viacom? It being CBS makes no sense at all to me?

#336 nhforhillary on 07.03.08 at 4:28 pm

Can someone give me Donna Braziles e-mail? I would like to send her this:

The “UNFAIRNESS” of the democratic party and the Rules committee added insult to injury. This is America and I believe whole-heartedly that votes must be counted the way they were cast. I totally disagree with stealing votes, manipulating the process, whether it is done by either the DNC or the candidate or both. This is America, votes have to count. It goes to the core principles of freedom and democracy. In New Hampshire our motto is, “live free or die”. I don’t care if other people voted before my state, we must recognize and count their votes at full strength. Since the DNC has unwisely “selected” a nominee, I have “elected” to use my vote as a declaration of independence from the injustices perpetrated by the DNC.

#337 sandipuma on 07.03.08 at 4:29 pm

Hi my PUMA sisters and brothers .I recieved a letter again today from the HOUND man lol. Did ANYONE ELSE GET ONE???

#338 sandipuma on 07.03.08 at 4:30 pm

I will get it and post it for you to read . I thnk Rendell is losing it.

#339 bythelake on 07.03.08 at 4:31 pm

Sent Mass emails as requested.

Go Murphy, Go Murphy, Go Murphy!

PUMA PRIDE!

#340 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 4:31 pm

donna@brazileassociates.com NHforHillary.. this is the email I got the response from regarding her

#341 bythelake on 07.03.08 at 4:32 pm

SHE’S HIDING!

The following recipients did not receive this message:

#342 nhforhillary on 07.03.08 at 4:32 pm

Most towns have a Historical Society…

Our country has a Hysterical Society…the DNC.

Step in line DNC and give the nomination to the truely “elected and not the selected” nominee at the Convention in Denver!

Hillary Rocks!!!

#343 Battle for the Hill on 07.03.08 at 4:33 pm

All emails sent. I also had to delete the cnn.com address or it wouldn’t go through.

#344 PA Guy on 07.03.08 at 4:34 pm

Hi all

…..I’m just trying to catch up….I been away a little….

cool………I’m on your video : )

#345 pa dem on 07.03.08 at 4:34 pm

http://www.padems.com/

We are doing great so far on this nasty poll. I discovered that you can vote as many times as you have email addresses, and you do not need to be a resident of PA to vote either: it never asks for your address.

#346 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 4:34 pm

stardust viacom is parent company of cbs

#347 MsBinMD on 07.03.08 at 4:34 pm

#337 – STARDUST-
This is scary. Lets face it, everyone of us has been to youtube.

Hope I am not misstating here, but did I read where there is a connection with google and the self appointed nominee?

Great way to obtain info on all PUMA members, huh?

#348 sandipuma on 07.03.08 at 4:34 pm

Dear Fellow Democrat,

Growing up, I could hardly wait for Independence Day – it meant a trip to the country and Uncle Shorty’s farm – mouth-watering, finger-lickin’, authentic Kansas City barbeque ribs and running around the big farm house, sparklers in-hand, singing “It’s A Grand Old Flag”. Just as it was getting dark, Uncle Shorty would shout out “ice cold watermelon, gitcher ice cold watermelon!” My cousins and I would come running to eat our watermelon and watch the fireworks display at the drive-in picture theater a few miles down the road.

Those memories will always make Independence Day one of my favorite holidays.

As we approach this 4th of July – I can’t help but think of how proud I am to be an American and how proud I am to be a Democrat this year – more so than ever before. And what a privilege it is for me to be a member of this Party in the birthplace of our Nation.

Making history means making memories. Our Party has certainly been doing our share of that. From January to June, from sea to shining sea, across amber waves of grain, Americans engaged in the democratic process, registered and voted in record-setting numbers in OUR Democratic primaries. In the Keystone State alone, we now have over a million more Democrats than Republicans. The same thing is going to happen in November and the Democratic Party will continue to make history. As a Democrat, an American and a proud Pennsylvanian, I just don’t know how it gets any better.

Uncle Shorty must have taken his rib recipe with him to heaven, but I’ve been trying to perfect a new one for years. Friends I have shared this with tell me it’s terrific. Although, for me, no ribs will ever taste the same as Uncle Shorty’s. And since I really did grow up in Kansas City, we can call them authentic KC BBQ Ribs.

Let me know how they turn out for you. And if you like my rib recipe, why don’t you tell me so by clicking on this link and contributing $7.04. Heck, for that matter, just lie to me about the ribs and contribute $7.04 to the Pennsylvania Democratic Party anyway.

Happy 4th of July fellow Democrats! I look forward to making history and memories with you this year.

Best,

Mary Isenhour, Executive Director

Mary’s Authentic KC BBQ Ribs
¼ c of dark brown sugar
½ teaspoon cinnamon
¼ teaspoon ground nutmeg
2 tablespoon paprika
1 ½ teaspoons cayenne pepper
1 ½ teaspoons garlic powder
1 tablespoon onion flakes
1 tablespoon salt
3 teaspoon ground cumin
2 teaspoons black pepper
5-6 lbs ribs (IPrefer country pork ribs)
Wood chip – I like hickory
BBQ sauce (see below)

The evening before, mix together all dry ingredients. Rub generously over the ribs and place in pan, cover with foil and place in refrigerator.

On the morning of the 4th of July, remove ribs from refrigerator and bring to room temperature. Soak wood chips in water.

Bring grill to a temperature on low fire – 200 to 250 degrees. Place wood chips in foil pan and place on grill. Place ribs on grill and cook for approximately 5 hours. During the last 30-40 minutes of cooking, slather ribs with your favorite barbeque sauce or use the recipe below.

If I can’t get home to Kansas City to purchase one of my favorite KC BBQ sauces, I’ll whip this recipe up for my ribs.

Mary’s Authentic KC BBQ Sauce
1 tablespoon butter
1 tablespoon olive oil
2 cloves garlic chopped
1 white onion diced
½ cup ketchup
2 cans of diced tomatoes – chili or Mexican style such as Rotel
2 tablespoons Dijon mustard
¼ cup of dark molasses
2 tablespoons of dark brown sugar
1 teaspoon of cayenne pepper (more if you want a real kick)
1 tablespoon of red pepper flakes
1 tablespoon of Worcestershire

Melt the butter with the olive oil over a medium heat. Sautee the garlic and onion until just soft.

Add remaining ingredients and bring to a slow boil. Reduce heat to low and simmer for 1 hour. Let cool and transfer to food processor to puree.

#349 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 4:35 pm

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/obama-opens-door-to-altering-his-iraq/n20080703160809990007

Hmm another #61 flipflop?? He’s sounding more like the republican that we are being accused of being

#350 notfollowingthepiedpiper on 07.03.08 at 4:35 pm

For all those voting for BO just because he promises to “bring the troops home”:

“Obama opens door to altering his Iraq policy”

By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer 25 minutes ago

FARGO, N.D. – Democrat Barack Obama opened the door Thursday to altering his plan to bring U.S. troops home from Iraq in 16 months based on what he hears from military commanders during his upcoming trip there.

“I am going to do a thorough assessment when I’m there,” he told reporters on the airport tarmac here. “I’m sure I’ll have more information and continue to refine my policy.”

Are we surprised? The terms “altering” and “refining” translate to a term we are all too familiar with: FLIP-FLOP

#351 nhforhillary on 07.03.08 at 4:35 pm

Thanks sychoram…she’s dealing with the big PUMAs now, a “SWING STATE” New Hampshire!!

#352 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 4:35 pm

#279 alohapuma… clearing your computer?

What kind of broswer are you using i.e., Internet Explorer? Mozilla… I’ll try and walk you through the easiet way.

#353 gohillary on 07.03.08 at 4:35 pm

This is GREAT news! But I have some important questions. Do you already have the buses? And, do you have accomodations for people once they arrive (the hotels are all sold out-I already tried to get one)? What will be the return date (I need to know how much time to take off from work)? I am in Maine and will drive to the NY bus, but it is a 2 day journey to Denver from NY, and almost as far from all the other places the buses will go from. Will we stop at a hotel during the travel (30 straight hours on a bus may be tough for many)? If we don’t arrive until the 26th or 27th, (you say buses will depart on the 24th) will we be too late? What day is the march? I heard permits were hard to get, do you have one already? Please post more info about the travel details, once I know all the details, I am ready to donate to the Denver bus fund and to come along! Let’s get to Denver!!

#354 Roxy in cali on 07.03.08 at 4:36 pm

#270 Alohapuma,

Just so you know. I’m not the Roxy that hijacked your youtube account. I would not be surprised if the Bobots were coming to our site to steal our names so they can highjack people’s accounts. Stealing, bullying and hijacking is what they are good at!

#355 Steve_in_KC on 07.03.08 at 4:36 pm

Finally found some time to post something, although just an observation or two.
I had found it impossible to read Huffington lately because of the slanderous slant against HRC and the ga-ga over Obama. But the last couple of days I read some articles and tons of comments from O-supporters who are feeling buyer’s remorse. Seems like at least 25% of the posts are upset with his O-Ness to the point of voting for Nader or Barr, even McCain, and many saying they feel betrayed and made fools of. That’s my summary take on it anyway. That made it a fun read for a change!
As an aside, especially after watching the video posted today, I stopped watching Bill Maher permanently a few months ago when he had a misogynistic diatribe ridiculing Hillary. Then I stopped watching Letterman when he just couldn’t lay off the stabs at HRC while never saying anything except “wow” stuff about BHO. I used to love the Daily Show with Jon Stewart until he was doing the same as Letterman, and of course Stephen Colbert went out the window too. I lost three of my favorite talk shows because of their bad attitudes towards Hillary and their sucking up to OBH. But so what.

#356 sandipuma on 07.03.08 at 4:36 pm

That Letter was from Rendell http://www.padems.com
the HOUNDS

#357 Fred on 07.03.08 at 4:37 pm

#324 Beca4Hillary to quote her”Those people don’t scare me, this is America, freedom of speech. Believe it or not, I am planning to pass flyers in Orlando by myself. I know I am going to be harassed, but I am sick and tired of bullies. ”

You deserve a huge round of applause. Handing out flyers take some level of courage. You do me a favour.
Tonight, you look at yourself in the mirror and say” I did good for my country” and know we THANK YOU. Tomorrow you do it again if you can.

Posters will be done soon. These will be approved by Murphy so PLEASE email me if you need some. You MUST need some. agathalewis@gmail.com
I need a list of people I need to UPS these posters to :
All addresses will be used for this only and will be destroyed immediately.

Brave PUMAs – I need to send you some posters to hand out.

#358 sandipuma on 07.03.08 at 4:37 pm

Paid for and authorized by the Pennsylvania Democratic Committee and not by any Candidate or Candidate Committee

#359 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:37 pm

yeah sychoram! #332

I’m so glad you told her you don’t have two x chromos. now she can’t call you hysterical! cool.

#360 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 4:38 pm

wontbackdown…thank you!!

Explorer

#361 sandipuma on 07.03.08 at 4:38 pm

I think i will go in and leave them a message

#362 Flasunshiner on 07.03.08 at 4:39 pm

I don’t blog often, but I am reporting that I sent the Denver letter.
Go PUMA’s !

#363 ClintonRules on 07.03.08 at 4:39 pm

as for the banner…why not something like:

We WILL remember PAST NOvember!

#364 sandipuma on 07.03.08 at 4:41 pm

Ok i’m off and running have errands to do will see you later.((((((((PUMAS))))))

#365 mcr on 07.03.08 at 4:42 pm

Re: Vote in poll: Is Obama politically ruthless?

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/03/hot-seat-is-obama-politically-ruthless/?icid=200100397x1204833117x1200223689

72% Yes
21% No
7% Not Sure

#366 Fred on 07.03.08 at 4:42 pm

We are not accomplishing anything with Donna Brazile or any of those who are “time thieves”. It may be satisfying to get the last word in but what does that accomplish. She is just spinning our wheels.

Lets focus on something we know we can change… the ordinary everyday folks. We need to tell the ordinary folks what is going to happen if OBAMA is voted in.

#367 diva2 on 07.03.08 at 4:43 pm

Getting Senator Clinton on state ballots.

Just a quick notes. Some people are talking about how to get Senator Clinton on ballots in different states. Maybe this was already addressed but she may have already registered with each state. On the old Nillary site there was alot of talk re: knowing your state regs before writing in a name on the ballot. Some people checked their states and found Senator Clinton had already registered with their states. Probably a phone call from each state could determine if the effort to get her on the state ballots is not necessary.

#368 MamaPuma on 07.03.08 at 4:43 pm

ACTION ALERT ACTION ALERT ACTION ALERT
Murphy just sent you two letters. They are a copies of the Post above anouncing that PUMAs are going to Denver. There is a wonderful bragging fact sheet at the end.

Above the letter are instructions and a list of emails. The first list in the first letter is to the media, the second is to the politicians.

SEND SEND SEND

Be sure to capture Donna Brazile’s reply and forward it to Murphy with Brazile in the subject line.

Happy Birthday PUMAs

I put my email in to see how many get sent. My mailbox is filling faster than I can empty it. PUMAs the letters just keep coming!

It is making me cry.

We really are making noise. GROWL

You are wonderful PUMAs

#369 BigCatLover on 07.03.08 at 4:44 pm

MURPHY

Did you say in your last post that you were on radio from 7-8 tonight, not at 8 pm?

#370 utahpuma on 07.03.08 at 4:44 pm

#358 Fred

Once the posters are approved by Murphy, I would like to get one or two to hang in the Chicago airport when I fly in there in two weeks. Guess I’ll post and run :)

#371 MaBe on 07.03.08 at 4:44 pm

Re: #352. A Big Flip from a Big Flop

I just heard on NPR, broadcast here in Europe over the American Forces Network, that Obama says he might “adjust his Iraq policy depending on what he hears from military commanders and people on the ground during his visit to Iraq.” I say, what? The presumptive Democratic nominee is basically admitting that his original purported policy was based on his complete inexperience and ignorance of what is going on in Iraq. Of course, he’ll end up with Hillary’s policy, nicely crafted to look as if it’s his own.

If the wiretap flip flop brought his mesmerized followers back to reality, this one will be certain to have a big impact; at least it should, if there is any sanity left at all in the world…..

#372 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 4:44 pm

I would love to see a youtube video on the DNC and *61 with the Nine Inch Nails song. Hand That Feeds.. Might give a little boost to the younger crowd.

#373 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 4:44 pm

Roxy in CA….the thought never crossed my mind.

The account that appeared instead of mine was

roxy5892

It’s a pretty feaky looking site. He/She claims they have been hyjacked.

Filing a complain right now.

#374 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 4:45 pm

Im trying to send my letter but one of my addresses is wrong. i deleted cnn.com but that didn’t help? can anyone help me?

#375 Maryland PUMA on 07.03.08 at 4:46 pm

All I have to say is….

WOW.

This is THE most focused and active I have seen this blog. Although I am working hard behind the scenes most of the time, I do still lurk and you PUMAs make me PROUD.

Maryland PUMA

#376 rob3gd on 07.03.08 at 4:47 pm

HAS EVERYONE SEEN THIS VIDEO? Its So Cool about the DNC. It like our theme against the DNC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvuMDmqwwbI

#377 liloleme on 07.03.08 at 4:47 pm

@ Fred
I know we can’t change the likes of Brazile & Gang, but I have to respond to outrage and silliness. Is it no wonder that the DNC is in the shpae it’s in with folks like that in control? Geeze-us. Makes me want to scream!

I’m committed to telling everyone I come in contact with about what’s going on – and I do. I’m amazed at the folks that haven’t a clue about things. Their “wait till it gets closer” attitude drives me nuts.

#378 StarDust on 07.03.08 at 4:47 pm

# 349 MsBinMD
Google definitely has a connection to the (so called) self appointed nominee. They are one of his top money contributors. But just what would they do with us one they had us? Make a movie out of us? Sorry- that was bad I’m just confused.

#379 NoMoreInFL on 07.03.08 at 4:48 pm

Great to see all the positive movement!! Had to catch up on some work today but have been reading and reading.

Thanks 18 million plus to Murphy, Dragonfly and Maryland PUMA along with all the rest of you great determined PUMAS!! :)

Here is my logo for the signs in Denver:
Ask Me Why Hillary in 2008!

Also FYI – I noticed color of T-shirts were being discussed and yellow is the color of “Success!” Yes we win!

#380 Maryland PUMA on 07.03.08 at 4:50 pm

I say we go naked.

Just kidding.

Back to the drawing board.

Be nice to each other and growl at others.

Did you like the Growl today? :)

#381 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 4:51 pm

This is THE most focused and active I have seen this blog.

I lit my white candle for clarity this afternoon!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

#382 fedupdem2008 on 07.03.08 at 4:52 pm

cont.
It’s so fabulous must reiterate!;)
The page for MSU is a MUST read!!!!:)
Big plus-can be assured of legitimacy of sites & official offices & orgs devoted to cyber-crime (why vet all the sites ourselves;)
http://www.lib.msu.edu/harris23/crimjust/cybercri.htm

MURPHY—should this be any help–I read that TYPEPAD is THE choice for professional bloggers…in addition to a whole suite of tools, the company provides automatic notification of of www weblogs dot com and www blogs dot com (so links not be flagged for moderation–time is of the essence!:) (sources cited mostly fm Entrepreneur Inc. books & related sites)

TypePad is not free but is very low in price with several price points (4.95 to 14.95 per month)

EPONYM is another that rivals TypePad in features, even at its Free version (& up to 39.95 per month). It allows Custom WEb Address feture, which allows bloggers to have their own “.com” without paying monthly fees for web hosting server.

WORDPRESS is also highly regarded and is Free. Can only publish one blog with wordpress acct.; also not as customizable (quoting from sources) and not inclined toward ‘professional blogging’(?)

Those are hosting services for blogs (web based); am assuming no interest in Installed Server Applications?–which involve downloading software & managing own server(?); can be for more advanced bloggers but allows for greater control of site.

More on TRACKING (all paraphrasing; am no techie for sure;):
Google (i kno~; they’re turning into the ‘alternative tech/net company poster child’ of dominance, like MS is for software;) (at least they believe in access–so much is provided free to the struggling masses;) Google provides Free tracking feature called “Channels” which plants ‘smart chip’ to track web activities, etc. Also read somewhere:
www digitalpoint .com (site count?)

Also suggested for protection–registering blog w/ US Copyright Office as periodical to protect content theft (but takes 4-5 months and may not be applicable here..?)

I have pulled these examples mostly fm a google search, haven’t read thru all sites or checked validity–which is why the MSU site & the Gov site are the places to start, imo.;)

This site expert-oriented w/ mucho tech instructions! (also, may be more ab id theft?)
http://blogs.technet.com/staysafe/

BLOG on MEDIA TECH & FREEDOM
http://www.freedomtodiffer.com/freedom_to_differ/cybercrime/index.html

#383 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 4:52 pm

I say we go naked.

w0o0ot we can claim its the only way to gt the DNC’s attention…lol

#384 sandipuma on 07.03.08 at 4:52 pm

I would like to THANK mt PUMA sisters and brothers for not AKNOWLEDGING ME WHEN I CAME IN …. HOW in heavens name would a new person feel if they came in here and was ignored. Do you want to GROW or SHRINK?????? Have to go now. THINK ABOUT IT!!!!! I see this to much in here. Keep it up and i will follow antifish and goanderson

#385 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 4:52 pm

i also think the color of tshirts should be yellow. in fact that maybe that should be the PAC official color in light of suffrage and the roses we sent. just my opinion for what it’s worth. :)

can anyone tell me which emails are not good on the list to media?

#386 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:52 pm

#349 and #379 – on youtube and google. yep, google gave *61 big money. Maybe it was a psychic moment, but last night while checking out youtubes and marking favorites, I thought, hmmm, wonder how hard it would be for spybots to check out my account and what would they do with it? as it happens, I favorite both pro and anti videos on the presumptuous one. I don’t know if that makes a difference. Ultimately, we just have to be willing to be transparent, protect our passwords, bank accounts, and credit reports, and remember to ask for help when you need it.

#387 utahpuma on 07.03.08 at 4:53 pm

I won’t be able to go, but will certainly be with the PUMAs in spirit.

Just donated $100 for buses.

#388 Mary Kay on 07.03.08 at 4:54 pm

I am a new PUMA member. I am also a pledged delegate for Senator Clinton. I am very new to blogging, but I have sent my emails to the the media and the party leaders. I have sent in my contribution to retire the Senator’s campaign debt. I will not ever vote for Obama. I am so grateful to you for the work you are doing. Keep it up! And I will see you in Denver.

#389 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:54 pm

hey sheila7! ;-) I love the yellow idea. Suffragette color, color of peace, color of wisdom, and on a personal note, the favorite color of two of my favorite people – my mother and daughter.

#390 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 4:54 pm

#361 alohapuma… clearing browser….

Okay… here we go:

1. Go up to you Menu Bar

2. Select Tools.

3. Select last Menu item “Internet Options”

4. The first Tab will be “General” (it’s the one you want)

5. Under the General Tab you’ll see”Browsing History”

DELETE: this deletes “temporary internet files” browsing history, cookies, saved passwords, web form data.

Let me explain quickly. This may make your initial return to frequent pages slow the first time, because you are clearing the cashe (stored pages of visited pages)

Also, be sure you remember your passwords to frequent blogs, sites (like here, you have the option of letting it remember your password at log-in – which I never do for security hack reasons)

Finally, I try and do this everyday when I am finished with my computing. Because it is my understanding that even corrupted temporary files, tracking cookies etc. get stored in the browser cashe – i.e., “browser’s memory”)

Remeber, your browser may act a little different when going back to sites, but the memory of those cookies has been cleared and it is gather updated info from the site, instead of accessing the stored info.

#391 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:55 pm

utahpuma, you are awesome! thank you.

#392 Fred on 07.03.08 at 4:55 pm

Post flyers and Posters like garage sales signs. Put them in plastic sleeves (the ones for files) and hang them on sign posts.. Put in zip lock bags and write “TAKE ONE” and staple this to your local street sign post or lamp post or trees in the park. No gas money… walking is healthier.

#393 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 4:57 pm

sandipuma
i would never ignore on purpose. i can’t keep up today but am always glad to see you. sorry about that.

#394 MsBinMD on 07.03.08 at 4:57 pm

fedupdem -

Must admit your technical post is somewhat over my concentration level today (trying to work & blog), so one quick question.
Are you saying that the corruption to my gmail accounts can be traced?

#395 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:57 pm

maryland puma – the growl was hilarious!!

#396 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 4:58 pm

i know everyone is busy but did noone else have any other problems besides cnn.com on the email. i want to participate but can’t get it to go through.

#397 murphy on 07.03.08 at 4:58 pm

Puma PAC cannot pay for accommodations. We can only afford to help some people arrive in buses.

If you can afford a plane or a road trip, please do.

We will provide as many buses as we can afford to hire (send in $10!), soft signs for people to wear, organization, and guidance.

We DO NOT have details to disseminate on the blog.

The convention runs from Monday, August 23 through Thursday, August 28th.

Please read up on convention details here:
http://www.denverconvention2008.com/index.cfm?page=faqs

We will be posting FREQUENT updates about details. Please don’t fret.

#398 Fred on 07.03.08 at 4:59 pm

DENVER :

In case i forget, signs will be in vinyl. So bring marker pens to write your own personal message on the back.
But for unity and strength in numbers show the front.

I have to be in Vegas for work – So extremely bummed I can’t go to Denver.

#399 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 4:59 pm

#393 Fred – also excellent! thanks. y’all see Fred’s ideas for inexpensive, effective, getting the message out.

Okay, my wonderful friends. I must stop posting for a while. I will check in later.

ROAR! To Denver!

HILLARY -08

Dragonfly Rodham Puma

#400 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 4:59 pm

#393 Fred Make sure what the laws are for stapling to street signs etc… In my area it is illegal to attach anything to city or county signs. In general they don’t mess with them, but when it comes to political signs it would probably be enforced.

Ohhh and sandi, I don’t usually say much and I read only about half of what gets posted, so I personally appologize for missing your post and not not sayin Sup.. damn candle ran out evidently

#401 ladyhawkke on 07.03.08 at 4:59 pm

Well, here’s the first response to the Pumas going to Denver from Donna Brazile. I’m disliking her more each day.

“There’s a lot of speculation, but no quotes.
And then there’s the PUMAs, an acronym from the name of a PAC that formed after Clinton quit to supposedly stand up against the meanie sexist Democratic infrastructure. It didn’t take much work for me to discover who started this PAC:

With her name and her zip code, all it took was a quick jaunt to Open Secrets to find out her campaign donation history:
“>
That’s the only donation listed. So, not much of a Clinton fan but appears to be big on McCain.

The “About” page at the PUMA blog states the vague goals:
“>
I want to draw your attention to the first one, which implies that the PAC was formed to support Clinton during the primary run. But if you look at the date on the PAC form, the PAC was registered on 6/3/08. Clinton officially dropped out on 6/7/08, but for days before, it was basically known she was out.
I would like to argue that this PAC was not formed to support Clinton, but to support the media narrative about hysterical feminists, and to help the McCain campaign with goals #1 and #2.
I bet similar digging would show that a lot of PUMAs aren’t exactly what they’re claiming to be.
Update: Looks like I’m not the first person to do a little simple fact-checking.

Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile. Please excuse any typos or grammatical errors.

#402 piepiepie75 on 07.03.08 at 5:00 pm

Got this message from Ms. Brazile

There’s a lot of speculation, but no quotes.
And then there’s the PUMAs, an acronym from the name of a PAC that formed after Clinton quit to supposedly stand up against the meanie sexist Democratic infrastructure. It didn’t take much work for me to discover who started this PAC:

With her name and her zip code, all it took was a quick jaunt to Open Secrets to find out her campaign donation history:
“>
That’s the only donation listed. So, not much of a Clinton fan but appears to be big on McCain.

The “About” page at the PUMA blog states the vague goals:
“>
I want to draw your attention to the first one, which implies that the PAC was formed to support Clinton during the primary run. But if you look at the date on the PAC form, the PAC was registered on 6/3/08. Clinton officially dropped out on 6/7/08, but for days before, it was basically known she was out.
I would like to argue that this PAC was not formed to support Clinton, but to support the media narrative about hysterical feminists, and to help the McCain campaign with goals #1 and #2.
I bet similar digging would show that a lot of PUMAs aren’t exactly what they’re claiming to be.
Update: Looks like I’m not the first person to do a little simple fact-checking.

#403 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 5:00 pm

THANK YOU MURPHY.

#404 piepiepie75 on 07.03.08 at 5:01 pm

So, basically she’s saying that we’re not really Democrats, just Republicans in disguise.

She’s either very ignorant, or lying to herself.

#405 MaBe on 07.03.08 at 5:02 pm

Re: #373. Ok, so the world is not completely sane.

Here’s the NYT /article blog piece on the Obama Iraq policy “adjustment” and a good number of the bloggers beneath the article bend over backwards to justify his switch and claim it’s not a switch. Also, AOL seems to be celebrating BO’s “ruthlessness” — apparently qualities used to vilify other people are saintly when exhibited by BO.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/obama-open-to-refine-iraq-withdrawal-timeline/index.html?hp

#406 fedupdem2008 on 07.03.08 at 5:02 pm

SandiPuma, Antifish, GoAnderson–what happened? Sorry for being out of loop-still working thru back posts while trying to work actions for HRC…These 3 were on top of my list for info/advice on this site..!?

This is just based on my incomplete knowledge of any situations…but I cannot imagine HOW Murphy & crew can keep up with just 1 site, let alone others, AND enact action plans while having their regular lives & duties to tend to…!!! I mean I am so grateful for theirs & other PUMAs expertise in these tech/political/legal matters, as I have mucho will & passion but dunno the means;)
So, I have to give some room for Murphy & crew, and in overall sense, have found them responsive to member suggestions, etc…esp considering all they have to do!:)

Pls forgive if I have got it totally wrong or it’s an internal issue (that is, none of my biz;).

#407 Bill-K on 07.03.08 at 5:02 pm

I sent both action e-mails but there are some problems with the e-mail addresses that we had to send it to. I got a few bounces and of course the cnn.com had to be deleted since no username was listed on th cnn.com address.

Hopefully it went through to most people.
PUMA power

#408 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 5:03 pm

#397 Sheila.. the only prob I had was cnn.com.. is it telling you which Email is causing the proB??

#409 ladyhawkke on 07.03.08 at 5:03 pm

Re: going to Denver, Pelosi’s came back and said if you are not a constituent, to e-mail her at: AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
Already done!

#410 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 5:04 pm

#397 Shelia7
I was trying to find it for you but my “fat paws” could not get there fast enough
today is – today@nbcni.com
cnn is – news.cnn.com
this is from some others that posted they had probs too.
if deleting cnn does not work try these.
Hope it helps – sorry so long for someone to get back to you.

#411 pa dem on 07.03.08 at 5:06 pm

Yay! New faces out of lurkdom! Welcome to everyone!

I sent my letters AND sent a copy to Governor Rendell. Donna Brazile is sending some nasty responses.

#412 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 5:06 pm

#409 SYCHORAM
no it is not showing me. i don’t want to use my regular email which sends it through and then just bounces back the bad ones. i am trying to use gmail. i’ll check it out again and maybe start from scratch.

#413 NativeFlower on 07.03.08 at 5:07 pm

let’s play a game: Who Am I?

uhhh, i uhhhh, uhhhh, you know, uhhhh, what i said was, uhhhh you know… i will uhhhh, end the war uhhhh, in 16 months uhhhh….

#414 MsBinMD on 07.03.08 at 5:07 pm

#393 &401

Did you see my suggestion about the money in post #297.

Gee, can’t help if I drop something! I know we have strict laws about attaching to utility ans state signage, but nobody said anything about “dropping”

#415 queen81 on 07.03.08 at 5:07 pm

sheila-

when you removed cnn.com did you make sure to leave a semi colon between the other two email addresses?

#416 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 5:08 pm

thanks 1 of 18 mil, i’ll try that.

#417 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 5:08 pm

Ohhh I see that might be the problem Sheila.. I have no clue when it comes to G-Mail….

#418 Roxy in cali on 07.03.08 at 5:09 pm

#402 Ladyhawkee,

I wish Donna Brazile took the time to do a “little simple fact-checking” on her selectee!

#419 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 5:12 pm

I saw the money idea and I’m tryin to figure out how to do that with my limited abilities.

I was in no way dispariging Fred’s idea, just wouldn’t want the NO Name maniacs having any ammo to use against us. Sooo many ideas floating round today… boggles the mind

#420 Fred on 07.03.08 at 5:13 pm

ACTION :
Many PUMA’s seem to have distinct skills and ability.

Some are good at :
Media : writing to media/papers/delegates/radio etc
Grassroots: handling out flyers,posters,talking to others
Product: Produce banners/posters/T-shirts/flyers etc
Networking: keeping up with other sites/sharing info
Ideas: Constructive ideas about everything. Research ?
Motivate: Get the whip cracking, Motivate other’s

Lets pick one and surprise ourselves at our skill and talent

#421 sychoram_in_MO on 07.03.08 at 5:15 pm

Anyway, I’ll go back to lurking and let everyone have a break from my sudden explosion of comments…

Rock on PUMA’s… Grrrrrrrrrrrr

#422 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 5:15 pm

#414 NativeFlower
I think I recognize that persons talk – can you guess who this is –

Thank you!, thank you, THANK YOU, I Love you too!, thank YOU, THANK you……and then blah blah blah blah blah blah!!!!! :)

Thanks for the laugh!

#423 garychapel_hill on 07.03.08 at 5:17 pm

I LOVE the convoy idea. Me and MAWM are planning on renting an RV and driving from NC to Denver. We actually found a brand of RV’s called Pumas. We want one of those :) So glad this is all starting to come together!

#424 NoMoreInFL on 07.03.08 at 5:17 pm

A great big PUMA hug to all you new ones and us 1 monthies!! Heard to read, do action items and type…these tiny paws are just a moving! :)

Everyone is doing a fantastic job! I am honored to be a PUMA among the Best PUMAS!! :)

#425 webfoot on 07.03.08 at 5:17 pm

Hi PUMAs, I haven’t logged on in awhile although I try to keep up with the posts. I echo the sentiments of so many here today…what energy. I cannot do groundwork or go to Denver because of my medical conditions. What I can do is research. Awhile back I mentioned that I was going to do some legal research and my idea was met with skepticism and I was told it wouldn’t work. But, since I am limited in what I can do I went ahead and did what I felt I needed to do. My letters went out today. The text is shown below (it is long):
July 3, 2008

Dear Senator,

I am a retired federal employee and, as such, was held to a high stand of conduct. The conduct that has been exhibited by Senator Obama would not have been tolerated in my workplace. If I, or another employee, had participated in controversial real estate dealings; associated with an individual under federal investigation (Antonio “Tony” Rezko); and associated with an individual (Rev. Jeremiah Wright) who proclaims, in essence, that the attacks against the United States on 9-11-2001 were justified, we would be under investigation.

Each agency, bureau, and branch of the military in the United States of America has a Code of Conduct for its’ employees. I have downloaded the 542 page Senate Ethics Manual. This document prohibits Senators from associating with individuals or behaving in a manner that would reflect poorly upon the United States Senate. This conduct was prohibited in the bureau where I worked which is why I began my research into the code of conduct for U.S. Senators. I could not fathom why super delegates for the Democratic Party were supporting a candidate for the President of the United States of America that was exhibiting behaviors and actions that would not be tolerated in a front line federal employee.

I found references in the Senate Ethics Manual which I believe are pertinent to Senator Obama. I have included those references in this letter.

If the Democratic National Committee continues the travesty that they are calling a primary election and selects Senator Obama as the Democratic nominee for President of the United States of America they will be doing a severe injustice to all federal employees. Ultimately, the President is the highest level supervisor of all federal employees. As such, his behaviors and actions are the standard to which all federal employees will be held.

All federal employee unions such as the NTEU and the AFGE will be able to cite Senator Obama’s actions as a precedent if an employee is charged with a violation of the Code of Conduct. In regard to his real estate dealings with Antonio Rezko, Senator Obama’s defense was, “I didn’t know.” Evidence shows that the Chicago newspapers contained information regarding the investigation of Mr. Rezko. If “I didn’t know” is a good enough defense for the President of the United States (if he should win the election) then it certainly will be a good enough defense for every single federal employee in this country. Where I worked ignorance of the law or the Code of Conduct was not a justifiable defense.

Another defense submitted by Senator Obama was in regard to the purchase of his home. According to newspaper articles Senator Obama stated the purchase was a “boneheaded” decision. During my nearly twenty years as a federal employee I held a variety of positions including frontline employee, management, and union steward. In all those years I never heard an employee use “boneheaded decision” as a defense for a mistake that was made.

These two defenses will be used if Senator Obama is elected president. Logically, if the highest level supervisor can make mistakes, go against the Code of Conduct for his position (U.S. Senator), and get a promotion (to U.S. President), then the defense of “bone headed decision” as well as “I didn’t know” will become justifiable defenses. For Senator Obama will have set a precedent for their use. Management in all federal agencies, bureaus, and the military will be hard pressed to justify why the highest level supervisor and the Commander in Chief can break the Code of Conduct for his position while other federal employees are expected to maintain the highest levels of conduct.

I believe it is in our country’s best interest to avoid the selection of Senator Obama as the Democratic Party’s nominee for President of the United States. It is my opinion, based upon years of working within and with the (personal information removed) that Senator Obama will, at some point, be under federal investigation. And I firmly believe that our country is better served by having this investigation done while he is a U.S. Senator rather than the President of the United States of America. Our country does not need another Watergate investigation. Nor does our country need the havoc that would ensue with the precedent that he would establish for all federal workers.

I have, for your convenience, reprinted excerpts from the Senate Ethics Manual which I consider pertinent to Senator Obama. While some of the excerpts apply to specific types of activity I have reprinted them here for you to remind you that the Code of Conduct for U.S. Senators has numerous citations on “appearance” or “appearances.” And, Senator Obama’s associations with Antonio “Tony” Rezko, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and others too numerous to name reflect poorly on the U.S. Senate.

Please note in particular my excerpts from page 95, “May not engage in outside activities that are inconsistent with the conscientious performance of official duties,” and page 157, “as a candidate, directly or indirectly promise to appoint any person to any public or private position for the purpose of procuring support for that candidacy (18 USC section 599).

(1) RULE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST 37
The Basic Principles
Pg. 61
Rule 37 (1)
Paragraph 2 sets forth the axiom that conflicts of interest must be avoided: ‘‘No Member,
officer, or employee shall engage in any outside business or professional activity or employment
for compensation which is inconsistent or in conflict with the conscientious performance of official
duties.’’ The legislative history of this provision states that it ‘‘should be read to prohibit any outside
activities which could represent a conflict of interest or the appearance of a conflict of interest.’’
132
Pg. 81
It does not appear that representations before Congress are a restricted activity under section 205, since Congress does not appear to be a department, agency, or court under the terms of section 205 (See Memorandum from Walter Dellinger, Assistant Attorney General, U.S. Department of Justice, November 7, 1994). However, while section 205 may not apply to representations before Congress made by
a Senate officer or employee in a private capacity, such representations may well raise issues of
possible improper conduct reflecting upon the Senate, as well as conflict of interest questions
under Senate Rule 37, depending upon the facts of the particular case.
Pg.86
Regardless of compensation, a public official may not act as an agent or attorney for a foreign
principal required to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938, as amended, that
is, generally, those individuals engaged in lobbying, political, or propaganda activities on behalf
of foreign governments or political parties. 215 In addition, United States officials may not accept
campaign contributions from foreign nationals. 216
pg. 95
OUTSIDE ACTIVITY/INCOME SUMMARY
Income Level Restriction
Members of the Senate May not contract with the federal government.
May not practice in the United States Claims Court or the Court of
Appeals for the Federal Circuit.
All Members, officers, and employees
May not receive an honorarium for an appearance, speech, or article,
or a series thereof, if directly related to Senate duties or payment
is made because of Senate position.
May not use official influence to further personal financial interests.
May not represent others in a private capacity before the government.
May not accept compensation of any kind from a foreign government
or act as an agent for a foreign principal.
May not engage in outside activities that are inconsistent with the
conscientious performance of official duties.
May not lobby former colleagues (Senate and House for Members)
for one year after leaving office.
(2) Chapter 6
pg. 157
LIST OF CAMPAIGN ACTIVITIES PROHIBITED BY STATUTE
The following is a brief list of specific statutory prohibitions relating to campaign activities
by Members and employees of the Senate.
A Member or employee of the Senate may not—
(1) promise to use support or influence to obtain federal employment for anyone in return
for a political contribution (18 U.S.C. § 211).
(2) deprive, attempt to deprive, or threaten to deprive anyone of employment or any other
benefit, provided for or made possible by an Act of Congress appropriating relief funds,
because of that person’s political affiliation (18 U.S.C. § 246).
(3) pay or offer to pay any person to vote or to withhold a vote or to vote for or against
any candidate in a federal election (18 U.S.C. § 597).
(4) solicit, accept, or receive an expenditure in consideration of a vote or the withholding
of a vote in a federal election (18 U.S.C. § 597).
(5) use any appropriation by Congress for work relief or for increasing employment, or
exercise any authority conferred by any appropriations act, for the purpose of interfering
with, restraining, or coercing any individual in the exercise of the right to vote (18
U.S.C. § 598).
(6) as a candidate, directly or indirectly promise to appoint any person to any public or
private position for the purpose of procuring support for that candidacy (18 U.S.C. § 599)

You have my permission to share my letter with your colleagues who are super delegates. My hope, for the good of our country, is that those super delegates who have chosen to ignore Senator Obama’s violation of the Senate Ethics Manual will change their support to Senator Hillary Clinton and vote for her in Denver.

Sincerely,

#426 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 5:19 pm

ok i finally got them through, only nancy pelosi came back, i don’t know what the deal was there. weird. when i started all over it showed me what addresses were wrong but the first time it didn’t.

#427 Fred on 07.03.08 at 5:19 pm

I understand the need to engage Donna Brazile and others – but so much energy going to deaf ears already- we know she won’t be open to anything we have to say. We know it won’t matter one bit to her, why not spend that energy else where. We tried for a whole month already. The horse is dead. Lets move on.

#428 mcr on 07.03.08 at 5:22 pm

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11517.html

Obama rewrites Iraq plan by Mike Allen, 7-3-08, 4:30 EST

“…Not anymore. Heading into the holiday weekend, Obama and his advisers repudiated that pledge, saying he is reevaluating his plan and will incorporate advice from commanders on the ground when he visits Iraq later this month.”

#429 NoMoreInFL on 07.03.08 at 5:23 pm

Hey I forgot…Beca4Hillary, I am also in Orlando! Boy did He answer prayer from this morning quickly!! :)

Does Dragonfly have your e-mail address so we can get together to pass out flyers?

#430 ipotter on 07.03.08 at 5:23 pm

In the email Donna Bazile sent me, she seems to be cutting and pasting from:

http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/pumas_are_swiftboats_darragh_murphy/

Think maybe we should forward her emails to the appropriate folks? A person like this has no business being a part of the DNC. I’m seeing speculation online that she is financially connected to the Obama campaign, but haven’t checked it out yet.

#431 Dragonfly on 07.03.08 at 5:23 pm

from #35 mpk -

I missed the blogging last night, but I hope everyone will be back. mpk’s thoughts on it are what I was thinking, so just wanted repost them:

“Wow what a video! And your statement Murphy is just right on target. The fact the we are organized and getting more organized every day is what concerns the DNC and S. Obama’s campaign. The more we stay on message, the stronger we will be. I read some posts from last night and early this morning. I am wondering if people just get tired and then write things that they wouldn’t ordinarily write or say to a person if we were face to face. Please if you find yourself getting angry at a blogger on this site then take a minute or two (maybe longer before responding or maybe not respond at all. Often what is written can seem more insulting than it was ever meant to be-we can’t see each other’s facial expressions or hear each other’s voice and we miss a lot of what is truly meant that way. As so many have said here and in other places on this site, we have to remain united in our purpose-we don’t all have to agree on all the details to reach our goal-which D. Murphy has written so clearly above. Let’s use our anger to effect real change (not the nonsense S. Obama is talking about) in the DNC and our country.”

Audre Lorde wrote a great essay on using anger in Sister Outsider. I will search for it among my books and find one of her awesome quotable quotes.

#432 Swiss4Hillary on 07.03.08 at 5:24 pm

Dear Pumas,
I just donated $100 to Puma PAC to sponsor some Pumas that can’t afford to attend. I will cheer you form afar and hope others around the world join me to help financially.


Mit dieser E-Mail wird bestätigt, dass Sie über PayPal eine Spende an Puma PAC $100.00 USD gesendet haben. Währungsumrechnung 105.44 CHF = $100.00 USD
Quellwährung: CHF
Zielwährung: USD
Wechselkurs: 0.948430
Diese Kreditkartentransaktion wird auf Ihrer Abrechnung als “PAYPAL *PUMA PAC” aufgeführt.

#433 Swiss4Hillary on 07.03.08 at 5:26 pm

A REPOST:

Dear Pumas,
I just donated $100 to Puma PAC to sponsor some Pumas that can’t afford to attend. I will cheer you form afar and hope others around the world join me to help financially.


Mit dieser E-Mail wird bestätigt, dass Sie über PayPal eine Spende an Puma PAC $100.00 USD gesendet haben. Währungsumrechnung 105.44 CHF = $100.00 USD
Quellwährung: CHF
Zielwährung: USD
Wechselkurs: 0.948430
Diese Kreditkartentransaktion wird auf Ihrer Abrechnung als “PAYPAL *PUMA PAC” aufgeführt.

#434 NoObo on 07.03.08 at 5:28 pm

Ok. Emailed both letters to the desired recipients. Pelosi’s came back to me though. It said:

Thank you for contacting my office.

Congressional courtesy prevents me from replying to emails if I cannot determine that you are a constituent of mine.

If you are not a resident of California’s 8th Congressional District and are contacting me in regard to my role as Speaker, please email me at AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov.

If you are a resident of the 8th District of California, please contact my office in Washington, DC at (202) 225-4965 to be added to our database.

Well, I bet their in-boxes are going to be full of PUMA’s!

#435 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 5:28 pm

thank you swiss4hillary

#436 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 5:29 pm

#430 ipotter
i agree, she has no business there. keep researching the financial ties :)

#437 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 5:29 pm

I need to file a complain with YouTube before filing a complaint with the FBI. Here is the e-mail to YouTube. FYI….

From: (Deleted)
Date: 7/3/2008 2:22:18 PM
To: security@youtube.com
Subject: Account (deleted)

YouTube Security Team,

I joined YouTube under the above username in December 2007. Since then, I have posted three videos, two related to my business, the other expressing a political point of view. The latter video suggested Democratic Candidate Barack Obama was purposefully misleading the voters to create a cult-like following. This video was posted in late February 2008. Almost immediately, a comment was posted suggesting the content was “silly” and claiming “75% of Obama’s supporters had a college education”. I was puzzled by the immediacy of the response and the poster’s curious statistic.

Earlier today, I reviewed another YouTube video regarding Senator Obama. I posted a comment then looked for my own comment to verify it had indeed been posted. That’s when I realized my comment had been posted under the username roxy5892. Since I have my computer set to automatically sign into YouTube when I enter the site, I did not discover the hijacking of my account until after posting.

Once I discovered the hijacking of my account, I took the following steps:

Signed out as roxy5892
Signed in under my username (deleted)
Received a login error message stating my username or password was incorrect
Requested a new password link
Followed the procedure to create a new password by using my old password
My new/old password was accepted
Signed in again
Was taken to the YouTube homepage and received another message to sign in again.
Signed in again
Was taken to my home page
Discovered ALL the videos in my account had been deleted!

I am concerned my private information and/or my right to freedom of expression may have been compromised due to my public endorsement of Senator Clinton and my public rejection of Senator Obama. Further, I understand Google, Inc and its subsidiaries are prominent supporters of Senator Obama having donated collectively nearly $400,000 to his campaign. Surely Google and YouTube are not now crossing the line into public censorship and colluding with the legion of cyber-bullies promoting Senator Obama.

Be advised, I intend to file a formal complaint with the Federal Bureau of Investigation – Cyber Investigations Unit immediately. I would appreciate your prompt attention to this matter.

Sincerely,

Name

username (deleted)

#438 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 5:31 pm

#426 Sheila7
You are really making my paws work today but I saw earlier a post about the email to Pe”loser” so try this one. AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov It apparently has something to do with whether you are in her district or not….or some other lame excuse.
Hope this works
Fellow Puma :)

#439 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 5:32 pm

alohapuma,
i’m so sorry this happened to you. what a violation of privacy! your letter is good and i would take it as far as you need to. one more thing to anger us and keep us going. when will they get it? WE WON’T BACK DOWN!

#440 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 5:33 pm

thanks again 1of18mil, sorry to be such a pain :)

#441 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 5:35 pm

#402 ladyhawkke … Re: Brazile:

Now that is one big AUDACITY EMAIL, if I ever heard one!

1) Anyone with a half a brain knew on June 3, that Clinton was being ousted out of the race because “non-committed” delegates like Brazile were already throwing their ignorance around about “their man” on News programs.

2) Brazile you had one of those racial videos on her own book promotion website of a preacher touting “Obama” long before the Wright story ever broke.

(How did I know that? Because I heard her egotistical lying mouth moving about her “impartiality” on a Sunday news program and went to check her out.)

In fact, Ms. Brazile.. I am the one that outed you all over the place as lying through your Big Mouth about your “impartiality” and pointed them your website to judge for themselves!

And, if you want to refute that you are not a farce! Then keep your word and quit the Democratic Party for Supers jumping in and controlling the selection before the convention… like you threatened!

If not… then why don’t you tell your own candidate’s thugs, gangs, women abusers and hate-filled criminals to “Stop the Hate!” and “Find their Joy”…

You may be really accustom to those kind of people… but people who have been voting all of their lives are NOT!

You are a scam just as much as your Candidate is, to support a man that throws his own people aside for the biggest slumloard in Illinois’ dollars…

They were never sitting around brown-nosing every politician around, frothing at the mouth for a position somewhere at the top like you and Obama have been…

They were desperately “hoping” for some damned HEAT… some rat and roach extermination, a working toilet… and and they will figure that all out, sooner or later.

…Don’t tell me your are a die-hard “democrat”… you are a blow-hard, divisive, dishonest political opportunist … just like the candidate you support…

…All in my opinion!

P.S. …….. Whew… I am feeling the joy, NOW

#442 andy85719 on 07.03.08 at 5:35 pm

Obama announced today that he is thinking about changing his position on getting out of Iraq. He now says he might stay longer than 16 months depending on conditions on the ground. That is exactly what McCain and Bush said. What a liar and manipulator. Disgusto. He has morphed into Bush, except he knows he is a phony and liar and has no executive experience. He is evil, possibly the anti-Christ. Caveat suffragator! Let the voter beware! NOBAMA!!!

#443 Headclunker on 07.03.08 at 5:38 pm

Sent Denver emails.

Got caught up on donations for Advertising, and some for Denver.

I am looking forward to Independence Day.

#444 NoObo on 07.03.08 at 5:38 pm

I just resent the letter to Pelosi.

#445 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 5:38 pm

wontbackdown – Thank you. Will do.

Thanks again for taking the time to post this. Might be a good idea to remind new people to do this as well.

sheila7 – Right!! Something like this only strengthens my resolve to stand up against what is happening. This is a new era of politics. What really scares me is that these media companies are global and I suspect they may be able to circumvent US law shortly and succeed in spoonfeeding the masses exactly what they want us the think.

We can not let them get away with it this time, because next time they will only be stronger and better at it.

#446 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 5:39 pm

Reposting by popular demand from the other days blog:
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I received an email from Senator Clinton’s finance committee today with a request to help pay down her campaign debt. An exerpt of the email follows:

“In the next two weeks we are going to make a serious push in putting a dent in this campaign debt to pay off the vendors. It would help us a great deal if you would commit to raising $5,000 – $10,000 and have all of the funds collected and sent to my attention by July 11th. Contributions can be sent via mail using the attached form and should be made out to Hillary Clinton for President and sent to 4420 N. Fairfax Drive, Arlington, VA 22203 Attn; Finance. Contributions can also be made online at https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=3200. Obviously these are targets; whatever you can do to help — would be deeply appreciated. If you have already maxed out in primary funds, you will be unable to contribute towards the debt retirement…

We have been on this journey together with Hillary for the last 18 months, and yet there is still so much more to accomplish. A critically important task we can ask of you at this moment is to help us reduce the vendor debt.

Thank you again for everything you have done and continue to do to support Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party. She will never forget it. ”

If interested in helping out, and only if you can afford to and only as much as you can give, please use the link they provided above. It’s a secure debt specific donation link that goes directly to her website. If you want to mail a check instead, and want a copy of the debt donation form to submit to the Campaign office with it, you can dowload one here: https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=3200#.

I do know there is a plan by many in the coalition to donate on the 4th, Independence Day, each person in an amount of $20.08 to show solidarity.

#447 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.03.08 at 5:40 pm

#442 andy85719
This was his plan all along – he just said the opposite to get votes cause he knew the issue of the war for some ppl was a very important issue and he basically told them what they wanted to hear….that is what he does in all his speeches…..who or whatever needs to be said to win them over he does, and then in private “chuckles” and says what he really feels. He is so so sad a character, poor judgement, and unfit to be a nominee for POTUS

#448 Jeremy on 07.03.08 at 5:40 pm

1.) This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. nancy.pelosi@mail.house

2.) Got 2 auto relies from Nightly News and Today Show

#449 MsBinMD on 07.03.08 at 5:41 pm

Webfoot 425 – BRAVO!!!!

As a former federal employee also, I have been asking this question for months. He could not even get a security clearance and can be President. Go figure.

Well written and sincerely appreciated for your efforts.

Hope it gets addressed.

#450 ladyhawkke on 07.03.08 at 5:42 pm

#191 TAFFY The link you provided for contributions makes me wonder whether all the money we are sending her is going to retire her debt. Remember on her website we had to agree to certain terms. The link you provided specifically states that the money donated will go to retiring her debt. I’m a little concerned about where this money is actually going. I think we need to find out as her website is no longer controlled by her and the Heidi website doesn’t ask for specifics, just contributions.

#451 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 5:42 pm

During my busy day off from my regular job, amidst personal business and updating the Action Center, I managed to go to the FEC website and download a list of people in my zip code that donated to Sen Clinton’s campaign, then went to the HuffPost site and cross referenced to get their addresses, then actually after all that finally got some flyers mailed out today to these voters!!! I feel good!

#452 diva2 on 07.03.08 at 5:42 pm

#430 jpotter I am impressed you have Brazille’s attention! Good for you. Maybe you might send her a copy of the video we just saw in Murphy’s letter and oh, the copy of the t-shirt that says *61 or die or how about some of the horrendous blogs that her “team” sends and then ask her to stop the hate? I am just fantasizing because you know she seems so full of hate herself that she will never acknowledge the truth. How the “rational” people could not get this is beyond me. In that one district where there were three black men all running for office and one wouldn’t endorse *61 for a long time until he went kicking and screaming to *61 seems like blatant coercion.

Anyway, I can’t wait to see *61 and his followers after he loses the race and even before that the nomination.

GOOOO PUMAS!!! Great job and wonderful to see so many new people.

diva2

#453 MsBinMD on 07.03.08 at 5:43 pm

OOOPS – #427

#454 Fred on 07.03.08 at 5:44 pm

#206 DancesWithPumas

I don’t think I said not to send graphics… you can send me anything you want.. I just thought plain bold text for banners are more effective and self -explanatory. Anyway, I pass through everything with Murphy as I don’t want to spend all $ and produce something she does not feel is right for PUMA.

We are almost ready to have Murphy post the first poster online. But real ones will be ready to mail out – my printing guy wants to print 10,000 sheets for cost effectiveness.
Online poster could be for people that need it right away – they can print it on their own computer.

#455 Roxy in cali on 07.03.08 at 5:46 pm

#427 Webfoot,

Good letter! Keep it up.

#456 Jeremy on 07.03.08 at 5:46 pm

This may have already been posted. Came in as I was waiting for replies to the mail regarding Denver.

CNN Poll: Nader Garners 6 Percent of Vote

Wednesday, July 2, 2008 5:48 PM

By: Rick Pedraza Article Font Size

Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader received 6 percent of the vote in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Wednesday, bringing him closer to his goal of participating in the upcoming presidential debates.

The CNN/ORC poll of registered voters shows Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in a statistical dead heat at 46 percent and 43 percent respectively, while Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr received 3 percent of the vote.

Nader’s camp, who complains he isn’t given the same chance to promote his candidacy’s objectives as the other two major party’s presidential nominees, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., says he needs to poll nationally at about 10 percent to gain entry into the upcoming town hall debates, as well as the Google-sponsored internet debate set for Sept. 18 in New Orleans.

Staffers working on behalf of Nader’s fifth run at the White House are convinced the perennial candidate could poll as high as 20 percent if allowed to take part in the debates

#457 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 5:48 pm

#452 ladyhawkke on 07.03.08 at 5:42 pm

————————————

I posted about this earlier… If you have doubts, either call her campaign office or the FEC and they will answer all your questions. Also, you must read the fine print that is located at the bottom of the donation forms. Senator Clinton’s website is now gearing up toward her 2012 Senate reelection campaign, but there is still a link on there to contribute to pay off her POTUS campaign debt. The money donated through that link can ONLY go toward that purpose. This is an FEC requirement. So just read the fine print at the bottom of the donatoin pages and make sure you are donating toward her Presidential campaign debt and not toward her Senate reelection campaign, unless you want your money to go to that purpose of course.

And the website is still under her control, it’s just switching it’s primary focus to the Friend’s of Hillary Clinton 2012 Senate reelection that’s all.

#458 diva2 on 07.03.08 at 5:49 pm

#430 jpotter FYI, after the RBC meeting I remember Brazille making a comment that they will probably reinstate MI and FL votes during the summer anyway. As if this is no big deal because once *61 is locked in we can give those states full votes and I imagine make *61 attempt to look like a hero.

I think it was at the RBC meeting she made these comments but it may have been on CNN. Not sure. Tell me there is no conspiracy there? Sorry, just venting.

#459 ahorner on 07.03.08 at 5:49 pm

It’s good to read all the comments, and especially to see that we are getting more organized, rather than more discouraged!!
Greetings to all from one of the 18 million in Texas!!!

#460 Your northern neighbour on 07.03.08 at 5:49 pm

It sure gives everyone a taste of how Obama intends to run the country just by witnessing all these co-ordinated efforts put forth by him and his thugs, attempting to prevent democracy and free speech etc.
And I thought Bush was the worst already….

#461 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 5:49 pm

#456 Fred on 07.03.08 at 5:44 pm
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Sounds great Fred! Can’t wait to see them.

#462 andy85719 on 07.03.08 at 5:49 pm

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/obama-open-to-refine-iraq-withdrawal-timeline/index.html?hp

Obama is refining his position on Iraq. Isn’t that nice?

#463 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 5:50 pm

#463 andy85719 on 07.03.08 at 5:49 pm
—————————-

Would someone please put some water on that flip-flopping fish!

#464 murphy on 07.03.08 at 5:51 pm

fedupdem #408
We all sincerely hope antifish and goanderson will come back.

Antifish, Goanderson — we need you!!

#465 JARinFL on 07.03.08 at 5:51 pm

Ok, my “brag” is I got all the e-mailing done…the only one that failed to go through was the: (Nancy.Pelosi@mail.house) But since there were 4 or 5 other addresses for her she will get it I’m sure. I got 2 automatic responses almost immediately from 2 networks. Thanks Murphy! Happy Independence Day to all Pumas….

#466 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 5:51 pm

#450 Jeremy… I having kickbacks on my letters also.

I think she has an automated system or I have the wrong address.

P.S. Sorry PUMAS for my tirade on DB… her trounce on Murphy and PUMA’s integrity is a little much… coming from HER.

#461 Your northern neighbour… Sounds like a Bush, talks like a Bush, lies like a bush…. Must be a BUSH!

#467 Middle age female on 07.03.08 at 5:51 pm

I will not be able to go, but I just donated so hopefully someone else can go.

#468 murphy on 07.03.08 at 5:51 pm

Mary Kay #390 — welcome!

a real live pledged Clinton delegate!

#469 fedupdem2008 on 07.03.08 at 5:51 pm

Hi MsBinMD #395 & All:
I don’t personally know the tech details in tracking your scrambled Gmail accounts but I have come across sites that discuss ways to track/protect/restore/penalize hijacked email accts, cyber-stalking & harassment, so I think it is very possible to do personally, without resorting to professional web-administration-investigation companies (nothing is ever really ‘deleted’ fm the web unless it’s done with these professional level web tools;)

I wish I knew this level of tech–am learning as I go along. I try to contribute by researching info/sites that seem credible & beneficial for PUMA goals–In the hopes that those PUMAs far more expert in these matters will be able to take it from there & advise, if applicable:-]

That is, I try to help by culling the enormous web content, & Call Attention to those that seem promising. I think time is crucial so some sites may not be fully reviewed bf posting, just skimmed to get impression of whether site is relevant for our purposes or not.

My thinking is that those experts will be able to discern those sites that slipped thru my skimfest & are total bunk…Time is always of the essence for us, & my thinking is it is better to have the info, & if need be discard it later, than to have to search fm very beginning, risk not finding site again or lose time to discussions of whether XYZ exists or not or such;) Yes, No? Do our experts have shortcut info & inside know-how fm these site topics?;-p

What tech I know personally, I try to pass on. For example–ZOTERO is a site/biblio/refernces/lib for anything u wt to save & come back later to or keep to have the program format bibilo/citations for you. It also allows web site “screen capture” helpful for documenting abusive posts, BO harassers sites, etc. Especially if YOUTUBE, HRC & valuable info sites, are being scrubbed of HRC content even as we speak!

ZOTERO is a Firefox extension & free (of course!:)
http://www.zotero.org/
A description:
“PC Magazine recently voted the Center for History and New Media’s software program Zotero as one of the top picks for free software in the Feb. 20 issue.

Zotero, an innovative, next-generation scholarly research tool, runs in the Firefox web browser and improves the way research is stored, shared and organized digitally”

What makes Zotero difft fm other research tools is it is WEB-based & allows content to be shared/accessed with others! Here’s a site that describes how to use it and how to use it along with RefWorks (another much used ref tool) (along with EndNotes, which is bit clunky)

More info fm Wikipedia (i kno, wussies all in protecting content;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zotero

Similar tools, like ScrapBook, are also free FireFox & other Open Source(freeware & all compatible;) websites. Zotero seemed the best of everything ideal for serving my compulsive needs to document & collect info/sites, records, etc. without adding to my lack of time & disorganization;) So, did tons of research (surprise;) and determined ZOTERO was the way to go. Also came across CARMUN (more for research academs;) Zotero even has it’s own instructions & demo on audio, text, print (pdf). Still learning it.
Hope this helps someone;)

#470 murphy on 07.03.08 at 5:52 pm

webfoot #427 — Hi!!

Great to see you!

#471 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 5:52 pm

#464 PA4HILL08… (LOL! -MAO!)

#472 mcr on 07.03.08 at 5:53 pm

Re: Google Ordered to Share YouTube Logs

http://money.aol.com/news/articles/tech-news/_a/google-ordered-to-share-youtube-logs/20080703164209990001

By ANICK JESDANUN,AP
Posted: 2008-07-03 17:19:32
NEW YORK (July 3) – Dismissing privacy concerns, a federal judge overseeing a $1 billion copyright-infringement lawsuit against YouTube has ordered the popular online video-sharing service to disclose who watches which video clips and when.

Take pool (attitude toward Google) on this site.

#473 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 5:54 pm

#390 Mary Kay…… Wow! We are honored!

#474 Lin4Hill on 07.03.08 at 5:54 pm

Swissf4hillary – thanks, Wow!!!

Steve_in_KC – I too had to turn away from Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert–they have fallen under the spell, and it is too painful to watch.

Donna Brazille —ARGGGGGGGHHHHH. Stop the Hate??? I have never seen so much hate as that which has come from Obama’s supporters.
This is the part where they are fighting us, right?

Webfoot – that’s an amazing amount of research. Wonderful job.

Sent my emails.

#475 ipotter on 07.03.08 at 5:55 pm

Had to respond to dirty donna b, not eloquent, but this is what went back to her in a reply to her smear of an email:

Your are taking your information about PUMA from an Obama supporter’s smear site.
The information on Ms. Murphy’s party affiliation and donation history is not factual. It
doesn’t take much to find the facts, but I am beginning to believe you do not care about
facts. Prove me wrong. Prove to me that your purse is not connect to Obama’s wallet or
the wallets of big business. If you would bother to read, PUMA is not affiliated with
any particular political party. We want honesty, justice, and for the DNC to do the
right thing and count votes of the people… all the people. To to otherwise goes
against the Constitution of the United States of America and you will be held accountable.

#476 InuHanyou1701 on 07.03.08 at 5:55 pm

#350 sandipuma

Huh. So ontop of pushing us around and telling us how to vote, now they’re trying to make amends by giving us recipies. :P And sandipuma please bear with us! There’s alot of posts to sift through (Especially those like me who come in late. I personally read through every post and respond to them as I come across them) and we try to respond to who we can! I know it really upsets you whenever no one responds to you. Just please know that we love you as much as we love the rest of our PUMA family here! I can’t speak for anyone else unfortunately but I, personally, will make sure when I see you to at least say hello. We certainly don’t want you to feel like you are being ignored! After all, that’s what PUMAPac is all about. Ensuring that we are NOT ignored!

#477 Roxy in cali on 07.03.08 at 5:55 pm

#429 Fred,

The horse is dead no doubt. I’m personally focussing my energy on forwarding factual info, videos, links etc to friends and family. I’m trying to stay posted on what’s going on… I try to engage in conversation with other moms at my children’s school about the election, at the gym, at the park, you name it……Also, I know how I am going to let Mrs Pelosi know I don’t approve of her behaviour, I WILL VOTE HER OUT IN NOVEMBER! And I am working in putting together a list of other Dems that will be up for re-election to make sure my message is heard…..DELETE!

#478 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 5:56 pm

#443 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 5:35 pm
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I’m glad you found your joy! ;)

#479 fedupdem2008 on 07.03.08 at 5:56 pm

Oops, left of the link for presentation on Zotero vis a vis RefWorks–video & text demo.

http://dalziel.org/karin/publications-presentations/zotero-refworks/

#480 ladyhawkke on 07.03.08 at 5:56 pm

#337 Viacom owns CBS.

#481 MsBinMD on 07.03.08 at 5:56 pm

FEDUPDEM
Thank you for info. I am going to copy your reply and hopefully my son & I can rectify my mess .
I appreciate your help. Thats alot of data (and typing).
Bless you

#482 scathcart on 07.03.08 at 5:58 pm

Just sent all of the Denver e-mails. I received the same nasty reply from Brazile. What a surprise? I had to resend to N Pelosi & cnn & move-on. Received IM’s from today and nightly viewer. I also sent the letter to Mccaskill and to Buffy Wicks the state dir for #61 campaign in MO. That was sure fun. I still have a rough time with copy & paste. I guess this old lady just needs more practice. But I got the job done. I had to get a new password to log in. I have been on here from the start I have no idea why now. But I’m back on.

#483 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 6:00 pm

Oh, and becasue I’m maxed out to Sen Clinton’s campaign and cannot help pay her debt down, I also donated $20.08 to Puma PAC today so some fellow Puma can get on the bus to DENVER!!!!!!!!

#484 andy85719 on 07.03.08 at 6:00 pm

How does the DNC like it that other than on drilling (for now anyway) and taxes Obama’s positions now mirror John McCain’s? Hmmm!!! I guess everyone should vote for John McCain then because there is no difference and McCain is more experienced. Obama is a liar. We know he is going to damage the military and the country. We know. He is a liar of the utmost degree. At least McCain and Nader don’t (and Hillary didn’t) pander and flip their positions. Obama does it every single day. LIAR!!! NOBAMA!!!

#485 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 6:01 pm

#485 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 6:00 pm Oh, and becasue I’m maxed out to Sen Clinton’s campaign and cannot help pay her debt down, I also donated $20.08 to Puma PAC today so some fellow Puma can get on the bus to DENVER!!!!!!!!
——————————

So I hope one of my fellow pumas will back me up with a donation to Sen Clinton’s debt on the 4th!

#486 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 6:01 pm

#390 MARY KAY
Welcome! I didn’t see you there, I guess I was struggling with my emails and wow is it busy today. Thanks for joining.

#487 Jeremy on 07.03.08 at 6:01 pm

One or more addresses are not in the correct e-mail format, couldn’t be matched to a group in your contact list, or do not match a quickname or nickname of a contact. (Please use the following format: name@example.com).
Invalid e-mail addresses: americanvoices@mail.hous.gov.

What is up with Pelosi? I have tried sending this 5 times and have re-typed the address myself from the auto-reply. Clues?

#488 diva2 on 07.03.08 at 6:01 pm

#470 FEDUPDEM2008 You sound pretty computer tech savvy to me. Thanks to you and everyone else for all your research and educating efforts.

#489 InuHanyou1701 on 07.03.08 at 6:02 pm

And PUMAs I unfortunately cannot stick around to read up on the posts upthread and continue to respond to posts as they come in. My mom has alot of things she wants me to do ontop of the things I need to do (IE: Wash sheets, bake cake (No seriously that’s not a joke), pool maintenence) for myself so I will be back. sandipuma please stick around if you can, I know you aren’t feeling well of course so I wouldn’t force you to stay or anything. :P I always love reading the things you say. You’re a fantastic PUMA. goandersen and antifish if you’re reading these please know that we miss you very much! It made many of us sick at heart to lose you last night and we really hope to see you again! We miss you!!! See you later PUMAs!

#490 InuHanyou1701 on 07.03.08 at 6:02 pm

(And welcome to PUMA our new members! I’ll address you individually when I come back and read your posts as I read through them!)

#491 mcr on 07.03.08 at 6:04 pm

Re: Can Barack Buy the Presidency?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121504274204624755.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

By KARL ROVE
July 3, 2008; Page A9

“Mr. Obama’s ads show he’s aware of his vulnerability on two fronts: his liberal values and his meager achievements. Yet he should be more cautious with these weaknesses. His bio ad says he was raised with “values straight from the Kansas heartland,” though he grew up in Hawaii. He claims to have passed three bills, but fails to mention that two were in the Illinois state Senate and that he didn’t vote on the third in the U.S. Senate. His new ad praises welfare reform, yet he opposed the legislation when a Republican Congress passed and President Clinton signed it.”

#492 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 6:04 pm

#484 SCATHCART
I think somewhere it said your password would expire in 30 days or something like that, so that’s why that happened.

I am in Missouri, are you? don’t you just love Claire McCaskill? pleaase!

#493 Roxy in cali on 07.03.08 at 6:04 pm

What happened to goandersen and antifish?

#494 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 6:06 pm

roxy,
you need to look back but i don’t think murphy wants it rehashed here.

#495 Pookie on 07.03.08 at 6:06 pm

I know this isn’t inportant just one of those inquiring minds wants to know things but what does the bot after Obama mean?

#496 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 6:07 pm

#466 murphy on 07.03.08 at 5:51 pm fedupdem #408
We all sincerely hope antifish and goanderson will come back.

Antifish, Goanderson — we need you!!

———————————-

I agree Murphy! Where are those two partners in crime! We need their unbounded humor around here! Goandersen! This is the artist formerly known as “Undecide but Leaning” from hrc.com blogs calling you out! Come out, come out from wherever you are hiding please! Your posts full of humor have always been a source of great joy for me over these long months! We miss you! And antifish, my gosh – please come back! Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease, pretty pretty please! You are pumas, in it to the end, fighting tooth and claw, and remember the puma lady in the pants suit has not sung yet!!

#497 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 6:08 pm

#487 jeremy
the american voices one worked for me. somewhere on this thread someone posted it and i copy and pasted that one and it worked.

#498 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 6:09 pm

pookie
bot=robot=obamabot

#499 fedupdem2008 on 07.03.08 at 6:09 pm

Hi–adding to cyber-crime resources, ideas etc;
Here are some accounts of personal experiences with Cyber-Stalking/harassment/bullying/etc & how/what was done…(Scary!! & Infuriating!)

Boyfriend Campaign to Destroy Gfriends Ex-Boyfriend:
http://www.parlezmoipress.com/mermaid/2005/12/evil-happens_16.html
The links to other forums info are helpful too–all info here is for 2005 so may have changed since.

A story from 2008:
Hackers Attack the Wrong Guy – edited by Cybercrime
-From Wired edited by Cybercrime
“Anonymous Hackers Track Saboteur, Find and Punish the Wrong Guy” – UPDATED
http://femtobeam.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!9F66DB4371C7F84E!118.entry

Blog list re: cyber-harassment,threats,etc:
http://community.myfoxmaine.com/blogs/netcrimes

#500 bruce55555 on 07.03.08 at 6:10 pm

#495 Pookie
someone already answered this for you, if I remember correctly, Obama followers are like robots, they don’t think for themselves, therefore, add bot to Obama.

#501 Pookie on 07.03.08 at 6:10 pm

Thanks Sheila

#502 MamaPuma on 07.03.08 at 6:10 pm

PUMAs get those emails sent and come back here and brag. We are making an immense impact today.

Thanks for the corrections. Please keep that up.

Anyone who has an email for their local newspaper should send it to me.

Put “town” “state” “Newspaper”

Example for me
Boston, Massachusetts, Boston Globe

This is very powerful stuff going on here. Within an hour we sent over 12,000 emails.

If we work hard at this, PUMApac will be news in every newsroom, tv studio, radio station and eventually will be a household word.

Get cracking PUMAs. Let’s growl.

MamaPumaMass@aol.com

#503 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 6:11 pm

#495 Pookie on 07.03.08 at 6:06 pm I know this isn’t inportant just one of those inquiring minds wants to know things but what does the bot after Obama mean?
——————–

LOL! I think it means something like – short for robot, which is sort of accurately descriptive of the general BO follower. You know they are kind of robotic, follow the herd, not capable of thinking for themselves, programmed…

#504 StarDust on 07.03.08 at 6:11 pm

# 495 Pookie
Go to
#242 Pretjene

This is a most perfect explanation of bot

#505 utahpuma on 07.03.08 at 6:12 pm

#453 PA4HILL08

I wanted to locate others in my area who donated to Hillary. You mentioned the FEC website, then addresses on HuffPost.

I believe there are only two of us from UT on here so I wanted to see if I could get some others

Can you provide website addresses for FEC and HuffPost for me?

Thanks

#506 Henerietta on 07.03.08 at 6:13 pm

I have a sister who is a devout conservative, and Republican. That I am a liberal and a democrat has sometimes made things a little tense. In this election cycle, we both agree NObama. She forwarded me a letter this morning from some missionaries in Kenya.

The essence of this correnspondence is that Obama’s Kenyan relatives are creating much havoc and violence in that country. They are all Moslem, and as such, are conducting a jihad. The ongoing belief in Kenya, by others outside the jihad movement, is that Obama is a ‘quiet jihadist’ planning to take over and subvert the US government from within. The rumor has it there in Kenya, that money is being provided by Obama supporters to these violent relatives (a cousin and an uncle) so that they can continue their rampage. As part of this correspondence, there is a conclusion that much of Obama’s political funds come from people around the world who want to support world wide jihad.

H

#507 A-Will on 07.03.08 at 6:13 pm

#427 webfoot. Wow! What an awesome letter. I hope you send it to both of our dear democratic Senators here in the Northwest. I believe one of our greatest efforts should be made to continue to make our voices heard by our superdelegates. I must admit that sometimes I think too much time is spent sending mail to the DNC, Donna Brazille and Obama. I realize it does help to get our name out there though and keeps them on their toes, so from that perspective I suppose we need to keep it up. But I think that those with limited resources, such as time and money, efforts would be better spent talking to and sending letters to the Supers. My 2-cents. :)

#508 NoObo on 07.03.08 at 6:13 pm

#350 sandipuma

I just want to say thank you for the rib recipe. We love to cook out and I will try out your ribs soon! I am going out of town for the 4th, but I will cook these as soon as possible. Where do I send the donation?

#509 Jeremy on 07.03.08 at 6:14 pm

Thanks Sheila7@#497

#510 gordana.hill08 on 07.03.08 at 6:14 pm

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO US !!!!

Just finished sending my two batches of emails RE: PUMAs Going to Denver.

I was out most of the afternoon – now to reading the threads!!!!

GROWL POWER!

#511 bruce55555 on 07.03.08 at 6:14 pm

SandiPuma, goAnderson and Antifish, we need you, I love reading all your posts as I’m sure others also do.
More importantly, your valuable contribution to this site!

#512 mpk on 07.03.08 at 6:15 pm

#420 Fred-great idea! we all can’t do everything but we can all do something that is within our time, budget and talents-everyone is impt.

#513 Maryland PUMA on 07.03.08 at 6:18 pm

#408 Fedupdem

It is so nice to hear you say that. We are indeed working ferociously in the background. It may seem that we are not listening or responding, but we are.

Many things that have been suggested and ideas that have been sent are in the works. Just need a little patience to go with our perseverance.

Believe me….”Cereal? Again?” is becoming a mantra in our homes. LOL

Carry on PUMAs. I admire each and every one of you.

#514 phillyforhillary on 07.03.08 at 6:18 pm

In case anyone hasn’t thought of it, this weekend could be a good time to hand out flyers. I live in Philadelphia, so obviously I have a great opportunity to get some interest at the city’s many events. I plan on handing out some PUMA flyers near the events this weekend ( I chose the ones that say “We’ll take it from here Sen. Clinton”).

We should, however, be sensitive about the events. We should be careful not to interrupt people while they’re watching an event, like the national bell ringing, but instead should hand out flyers near these events on the nearby streets or before or after a specific event. And where I live there a tourists from all over the country walking back and forth between tourist sites all weekend.

If anyone plans to do some canvassing at the events in Philadelphia or has ideas about what to say to people when handing out flyers (at any time), then you can email me at phillyforhillary@gmail.com. Thanks.

#515 webfoot on 07.03.08 at 6:20 pm

Hi PUMAs, I was away grabbing some lunch. Thank you all for your feedback on my letter. I have a couple other things that I am researching right now (takes me awhile). Anyway, I will post them too when I have them done.

#507 A-Will. Yes, I sent them to our two awesome senators. I also sent a copy to a National delegate for Hillary who lives in my town.

Lunch is done cooking. Will be back later. Great job today everyone!

#516 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 6:20 pm

Antifish, Goanderson…

Okay, see, I was out last night and I should have known I couldn’t turn my back on the two of you for one moment…

If you’re listening… I am warning you… I will be calling MO and tell her I’ll vote for BO, if she will just stop what she’s doing, wherever she is….

…and reach out and grab both of you by the nap of the neck and pull you back into the PUMA blog…

… and Goanderson… MO can do it and you know that’s a fact!

#517 Pookie on 07.03.08 at 6:21 pm

#504 OMG that was so funny ! Now I know the true meaning when I see that .His followers ARE robots just like he is a True ‘post turtle’ Thanks everyone for answering

#518 Middle age female on 07.03.08 at 6:23 pm

Dear new PUMA member
Our web server has a strict anti-spam policy, and requires that we get your permission to send announcements that will reach all of you. If you would like to receive information from us at xxxxxxxxxxxxx please click on the link below and you will be added to our (“Puma PAC” )
***************

This was in my e-mail today – is it legit?

#519 Lin4Hill on 07.03.08 at 6:23 pm

antifish and goanderson-

I may never have directly “spoken” to you, but you have been a real joy for many of us–Trish and bythelake, so many others–you too. There have been nights I’ve stayed up late laughing because of all of you—we need the balance you often bring to all this pain and frustration.
Let’s heal this wound and go forward. Miss you

#520 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 6:23 pm

#516 wontbackdown
i told goandersen the exact same thing, LOL

#521 Hillmania on 07.03.08 at 6:24 pm

Warning to BO: DON’T POP THE CORK YET!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/dont_pop_the_cork_yet.html

Excerpt:
“All of the above examples of over confidence pale in comparison to the challenges Senator Obama faces within his own party and his share of the electorate. Despite their lofty attitude since winning the nomination, the truth is that while 18 million Democrats voted for Barack Obama, 18 million also voted against him. Whether or not the campaign wants to believe it, Senator Hillary Clinton’s supporters will not simply join the throngs of adoring fans that attend Obama’s rallies. They will have to be wooed and convinced as if the primary were beginning all over again. Senator Obama has less than two months before his coronation in Denver. If he can’t convince working-class men and upper-class women who voted for Clinton that he’s worthy of them, they might stay home or worse yet, cross party lines. Because of the support she garnered during the contests, Senator Clinton must be given a prominent, prime-time speaking role at the Democratic Convention. Should she blow the roof off the place, there’s no guarantee that some sizable amount of her delegates won’t vote for her anyway, even in the face of sure defeat. Call President George H.W. Bush and see how a divided and divisive nominating convention works out for the fall campaign.”

I say onward to the Convention!!

#522 Bill-K on 07.03.08 at 6:25 pm

To: #518 Middle age female
Yes the e-mail is legit. It is the offical PUMA e-mail list.

#523 Jeremy on 07.03.08 at 6:27 pm

americanvoices@mail.house.gov.;

Something is up with this address. Notice the semicolon? When I try to send and get the invalid email address message, that semicolon shows up. I tried it again by manually typing in the address and then I got another error and this time it was presented as americanvoices@house.mail.gov.. (two periods behind gov.) Oh well, I tried.

#524 Henerietta on 07.03.08 at 6:27 pm

Some days I wake up just itching to do SOMETHING, anything, to make Obama go away. He has started to advertise on my local TV stations. The news has him all over it. I am getting tired of changing the channel so often.

I sent my letter to the news people. Maybe that WAS something.

In the meantime, I really want to start thinking about ways we can get Hillary on the ballot in states that don’t allow a write in. I mentioned that this morning, but nobody seemed to know how to do that. Anyone know?

Heneri

#525 NewOrleansPuma on 07.03.08 at 6:28 pm

#401LadyHawke and all others who got the Brazile email. The tone of Brazil’s note is one of hey, I am in the know…look what I know. If you all read this e-mail very carefully, you will quickly understand that Brazil is way behind in her assessment of this Pac and its power.
She doesn’t have her facts straight because she knows the facts and all now she can try to do is denigrate what she can not control. Why not? Donna’s going down with the rest of them. Keep up the great work all you fiery,bright Pumas. Donna can’t move fast enough because Donna is used to doing her work, her poison behind the scenes….And here we are…RIGHT UP FRONT IN HER FACE AND EVERY OTHER PLAYER’s FACE WHO UNDERESTIMATED AND PRESUMED UPON THE VOTERS. Don’t expend too much energy on this e-mail. She and it are’t worth it because she and it are already way behind on what we are and what we are doing and what we WILL DO!

#526 fedupdem2008 on 07.03.08 at 6:28 pm

continuing w/links re Cyber Crimes:

Wowza SITE!!–Provides direct Chat, Online & others HELP to solve problems! URL is spaced out to not trip filter;):
“The world’s largest Internet safety and help group”
http:// www. wiredsafety. org/

Forensic Psych’s Profiles of Cyber-Stalkers (surprising)
http://www.endcyberstalking.com/index.php?cat=252

This site looks promising & credible (based on a book):
http://www.netcrimes.net/resources.html

And of course McGruff the Crime Dog*:) has info:
www. bytecrime .org

*Btw, let us not demonize dogs & animals in responding to H.O.U.N.D.– It is the people we’re after afterall (don’t malign dog’s, esp the hound’s character–who is known for sniffing out the truth & intense loyalty to their human companions:)

Phew! Sincerely hope PUMA experts will share their know-how:)
Take care all–Now must go thru & read in detail the links I posted;)

#527 Firebelle Puma on 07.03.08 at 6:31 pm

Dear Friends,

I’ve been summoned by Maryland Puma. She says I must play.

I haven’t left you guys. I’ve been lurking in the background, giving new Pumas a chance to play while I attend to earning a living myself.

You Pumas have been getting under dear Donna’s hide. She’s finally graduated from “Stop the hate” to full paragraphs. Amazing.

She’s a growly beast. She’s not happy unless she’s showing fangs. She doesn’t answer me if I write nice emails. I thought she’d be more receptive if I acknowledged how hard this has been for her and how much she’s contributed to the Democratic party. (Okay, I can schmooze a little.) But she can’t answer that with “stop the hate,” so she doesn’t answer me at all.

Okay, dear Pumas, carry on. I need to go ship a customer order so I can earn some money. I have teddy bears to feed.

#528 Henerietta on 07.03.08 at 6:33 pm

Anyone here have any information about PUMAs in Northridge area of CA? My daughter, Beth, is going there as an exchange student this fall. She is a History Major, so all of these goings on in the election are very important to her.

Heneri

#529 hillstheone on 07.03.08 at 6:33 pm

Re: the question about which advertisers to boycott, I think you caught all the same ones I was thinking about.

Re: Stephen Colbert, whoever posted he’s anti-Hillary, don’t take things so seriously. I watch this man’s show every night & he is a Catholic & a Hillary-backer. Just this week he has a spoof on Obama standing by a “Wheel of Fortune,” asking “Which religion am I this week?”

Hillarious, & we all need a little Hillarity!

#530 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 6:33 pm

#521 HILLMANIA
great link thanks for that.

firebellepuma
i also tried emailing her a nicer note just asking her if i wasn’t understanding something and if she could explain some things to me and i have never heard back, presumably because she couldn’t say stop the hate.

#531 greenfun on 07.03.08 at 6:35 pm

Ok, sent my letters to media and Dems.
Also, made a donation. Sent a letter to Coward. Posted some flyers, and will now work on my letters to CNN and MSNBC sponsors. Dang, it’s a busy summer.
Donation amount: $20.00 USD
Total: $20.00 USD
Purpose: BUSES TO DENVER

#532 sable1 on 07.03.08 at 6:37 pm

Sent the e-mails, Donating $20.08 to Hillary tomorrow as suggested by Clinton Dems. Sending 2 pennies to Obama letting him know that is what I think of his change. Hopefully they will think the pennies are some kind of explosive device.

1 of 18 milion in Va

#533 Firebelle Puma on 07.03.08 at 6:37 pm

#530 sheila7

She didn’t answer because you asked for a rational explanation. She can’t give you what she doesn’t have. Poor deprived Donna.

Okay, I’m really headed out this time. I’ll be back shortly.

#534 MamaPuma on 07.03.08 at 6:39 pm

#507 A-Will

Today within one hour the PUMAs from this wesite sent over 12,000 emails to the DNC, and all the other politicians. But they also sent those letters to all of the major networks and all of the cable networks. They also sent those letters to the talk hosts on TV.

If we get media attention, we will be able to harness the power of millions. That is our job because we do not have millions of dollars.

Millions of voices – Voices of the Voters – are much more powerful than millions of dollars.

The letters to the politicians help us to get media attention and alert those politicians to the depth of our committment to this campaign.

PUMAs send those emails! Congratulations you are changing the world.

#535 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 6:42 pm

#534 MAMAPUMA
WOW! That is alot of emails. I am very proud of us PUMA’s today. We have worked very hard and I feel like we are changing the world. Everyone, pat yourself on the back, now get back to work. :)

#536 sheila7 on 07.03.08 at 6:43 pm

ok everyone,
i’ll be back later, time to get dinner on the table, every once in a while I have to see to my family.

#537 halligan on 07.03.08 at 6:45 pm

Good afternoon, PUMAs.

Sent out a donation to Senator Clinton’s Pay Down the Debt this AM ($20.08) along with a PUMA Business Card. For those of you who still like snail mail, I called the Arlington Office and they gave me this address for the donation. I asked specially where the donation for the debt was to be sent:

Hillary Clinton for President
P.O. Box 1781
Merrifield, Virginia 22116

Secondly, I mailed a letter to Elizabeth Edwards who sent a solicitation out for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Mailed the letter and the return support receipt along with a PUMA business card in the return envelop. The letter is as follows:

July 3, 2008

Elizabeth Edwards
DSCC-Committed to Electing a Democratic Senate
PO Box 96047
Washington, DC 20077-7245

Dear Mrs. Edwards,

In reply to your request for a donation to the DSCC, I regretfully inform you that I am no longer a member of the Democratic Party. After 40 years of active participation with the Party, I find that the Party no longer represents my principles and values related to political decisions. The Democratic Party through the primary “selection” (not election) did not step forward in the defense of Senator Clinton by the mainstream media in terms of slanderous and vulgar commentary directed toward her as a woman. The Democratic Party also by its RBC’s action on May 31, 2008 broke the cardinal rule of the right to vote in the Constitution of the United States by not fairly distributing the votes of the citizens of Florida and Michigan.

The Democratic Party continues to slip down a path of defiance toward its core constituency at the expense of winning back the White House. Even though, President Bush was the worst leader we have seen in recent history, the Party is now following the same mentality of the Republicans by pushing an Obama Presidency upon this nation, a person with a daunting lack of experience and a background that is associated with people who choose not to follow the rules or the spirit of this great nation. I cannot be a part of this insanity on the part of the Democratic Party. I am now a member of PUMA (People United Mean Action).

I am choosing to focus my monetary contributions toward two senators who I champion for their service to our state and this nation, Senators Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell. They have proven that they don’t just represent the Democratic Party, but that they truly represent the people of our State. Neither Senator is facing re-election in 2008, but I will certainly support them in the future.

Rather than donate to the DSCC, I will send a contribution to the American Cancer Society in your honor. You are a brave and courageous woman. My prayers are with you daily during your battle with cancer.

Sincerely,

PUMA Independent (I did use my real name and address with the PI after it)
WA State

#538 NoObo on 07.03.08 at 6:45 pm

Is there a radio show tonight at 7pm?

#539 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 6:45 pm

#520 sheila7… Re: goanderson… Just saw your POST (LOL!) It just fits her, I guess!

#540 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 6:45 pm

#487 PA4Hill08, lol I feel the same way, I was just telling goanderson yesterday, that we are all family and he was in the right place! We need you guys back so I am calling you and antifish back too…..PUMA GROWL OUT…….

#541 sable1 on 07.03.08 at 6:45 pm

Willing to help…Anyone else fom the Southwestern part of Va here ???? Specifically the 9th district. All voted for Hillary. We need to get together. Have left contact info with PUMA

#542 BarbNOBO on 07.03.08 at 6:46 pm

Just sent out my e-mails to the media and others….2 didn’t go through…cnn.com and onlineda@newshour.org.
Let’s flood their boxes!!! PUMAs are on the prowl!!!

#543 StarDust on 07.03.08 at 6:46 pm

# 521 Hillmania

Sorry Obama
I am sooooo past woo-ing by now

#544 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 6:46 pm

#425 webfoot thanks for taking the time. As I stated when I joined PUMAs I was with another group. We tried to find out if “he” had even been investigated before running for Illinois Senate let alone US Senate and President! The DOJ would never return our calls, the FBI hung up on me, the Dem party wouldn’t answer the question. We were stalled everywhere. Now we have the Israelies trying to look into his BC and truthfully even if he produced one now I wouldn’t believe it real. He has managed to get his birth registered (possibly) as Hawaii. My father’s was destroyed in a fire when he was a child. He needed to jump through some hoops but was able to get a certificate of birth. If he could, so could “he”. Keep up the good work. You have many more facts at hand than my previous group did!

#545 sandtraps on 07.03.08 at 6:50 pm

halligan , love your letter to Mrs. Edwards and respect the ACS donation.

#546 john on 07.03.08 at 6:51 pm

Black Conservative Group Rips Obama

Excerpt:

Here’s a sample of what you might hear on your radio:

“Bitter is what Obama called blacks and whites who love God.

Racist is what Obama called his white grandmother who raised him and made sacrifices so Obama could get a good education and become a millionaire,” says the narrator one of the spots.

“Obama’s mentor for 20-years was Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who said innocent Americans deserved to die on September 11th,” says the voiceover in another.

What Obama actually said about some Pennsylvanian voters:

” … It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them …”

And, during his race speech in Philadelphia, of his grandmother:

“I can no more disown him [the Rev. Wright] than I can disown my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me . . . but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed her by on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.”
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

#547 Hillmania on 07.03.08 at 6:52 pm

Antifish and goanderson:

Come baaaack!!! We need you!

#548 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 6:53 pm

#530 sheila7… Re: DB

That’s why I don’t email her direct when I finally have enough of her…

I only email her when she hasn’t gotten under my skin.

The last time I emailed her I closed by saying…

P.S. Donna, stop your racial bias and find your vote.

#549 halligan on 07.03.08 at 6:54 pm

webfoot 425

Welcome back. Wow! I’m so proud of you. No one could have said it better. The letter is amazing in detail and so needed. Thank you so much.

#550 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 6:54 pm

###############################

MURPHY-MARLYLAND-MAMAPUMA-FRED

###############################

Pumapac is limited to the net for net-savy people. I’ve thought of a way to get a lot more people to know our cause.
CAN this be an action Growl????? I know it will definately work.

To get out the words about our cause, we can hand out fliers to peoples’ homes. OK, don’t panic, you don’t have to go to every home, you just need to target places where there are a lot of letter boxes about. Like units and appartments, and communities units.
I don’t live in your country, but for exmaple I know there is a retirement centre near me with hundreds of residents, so if I print out Pumapac fliers I can just stop at one place and put out say 200 fliers, that’s 200 voters, and they will spread the words around if they are into our cause. There are aslo some unit complex near me, so I just have to stop at one place and put fliers into them, thats a few more hundred voters. Also buildings and appartments, where there are dozens of letterboxes in one place you can put fliers into.

The flier does not have to be complex, A5 (ie: 2 in A4).
-ARE YOU 1 of 18 MILLION VOTERS DISENFRENCHISED WITH THE DNC, AND FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE NO VOICE? THEN JOIN US……. (fill more here)
-There are many out there who feel the same as you, lets take back our vote… (ect)
- Our website is blog.pumapac.org. etc….
- List few more reasons here.
- pumapac logo

So if each person would print out this flier and cut it in half, have it ready. If everyday they can visit 3(or more) places (units/buildings/appartments/retirement homes/nursing homes/etc…) and hand out fliers in their letter boxes, that would be like 500 fliers per person. You can do this after work, before work, or put on some sneakers a hat and go for a walk to hand these out. Finding the location would be easy, some of you live in buildings, near buildings, or on the way to work, etc… that have lots of residents, that you know of, then stop by and hand out fliers, all in one go. You need to target voters that is not net savy, so maybe look in your local yellow pages for retirement/nursing home addresses, and just drop the fliers in their letter boxes.

OK MURPHY, so if 35,000 people clicked on this website, say if 20,000people x(300 fliers/day)x(7 days) = a lot of puma coverage.

Please Pumas, this will absolutely work. I am an introvert and does not confront people, but if I just have to print out/photocopy those fliers and just visit a few places(3-5) a day to hand out fliers, that would be no problem at all. The billionaire/media moguls control the airwaves, so we need to get the message out other ways. This will not cost much money, just some printing paper and a bit your time before/after work.

So Murphy, what do you think? If all pumas from around the country can do that for 2 weeks straight, imagine the coverage.

Then come back here to blog how many you have sent out and roughly where.

#551 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 6:54 pm

#546 john… saw that today and posted the link here. Glad you posted the content for afternoon PUMAS.

#552 Taffy on 07.03.08 at 6:55 pm

#432 swiss4hillary THANK YOU Can you hear us across the ocean and mountains?? :)

#553 halligan on 07.03.08 at 6:55 pm

goanderson

Welcome back. I knew you couldn’t stay away. :-)

#554 heysandy on 07.03.08 at 6:55 pm

Sent my emails. Go, Go, Go, my Puma Pals!

#555 storytellers on 07.03.08 at 6:57 pm

#437 alohapuma
the same thing happen to me
with the regular e-mail

#556 hillaryistheone on 07.03.08 at 6:58 pm

LOL Just sent all the emails for today. WOW that was a bunch of email!!

Joke I seen today about Obama:

CHANGE
That is all you will have left, if I am elected.

#557 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 6:58 pm

#553 halligan…. where’s goanderson? what # is the post?

#558 halligan on 07.03.08 at 7:01 pm

Has anyone heard the most recent on Obama and the shifting of his Iraq policy. Now that he’s going to Iraq, he says he might possibly be persuaded to do some things differently—hmmmmmm! My congressional representative went to Iraq and then came home and voted for more funding for the WAR – a complete turn-around. He did get blistered, but still no one but a few have stood up to him, even the liberal AirAmerica in Portland. These people like O and this guy just continually get coated with teflon.

#559 halligan on 07.03.08 at 7:05 pm

#557 Wont

I just know that “go” is out there so I’m welcoming without “go” appearing on a post. Positive attitude and knowing it will happen.

#560 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 7:06 pm

Where’s go? I don’t see?

#561 halligan on 07.03.08 at 7:08 pm

#560 PRP

I’m do the positive attitude thing. “Gos” here, I know it. No post, but here.

#562 halligan on 07.03.08 at 7:09 pm

We should start a cheer to be heard across the network. Go, Go, Go, Go :-) Seriously.

#563 storytellers on 07.03.08 at 7:10 pm

he is the 1rst politician that have the shamelessnes and lack of respect for the public
that his electoral program changes everyday
he changes as to fit time

#564 LoveHillary on 07.03.08 at 7:10 pm

SENT MY EMAILS “PUMAS GOING TO DENVER” TO MEDIA LIST AND POLITICIAN’S LIST! LET’S SHAKE THINGS UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#565 prplvette85 on 07.03.08 at 7:11 pm

#561 halligan
Sorry, I see now lol….sending positive vibes….I am cooking a real dinner for hubby. Got off work early, trying to get done before radio show. Almost done. He gets home late from work…he will probably go into shock he is not getting a bowl of cereal lol….or leftover what ever! Sure saves on grocery bill lol….

#566 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 7:12 pm

I think forum software of some kind would help with some of the misunderstandings and cross-communications.

We all share a frustration and an urgent need to get something done quickly. I think some of us get a bit hair trigger and take things personally.

antifish and goanderson, you’ve received a lot of support and appreciation here. I think you should reconsider for that reason.

I know how you feel. I suddenly became the bad guy because I was emphatically urging the pay-down of Hillary’s debt. That got translated into shaming another member who had already done all she could do with her resources. I felt pretty abused by the process, but I concluded our purpose here is more important than my feelings.

I still feel ignored for the most part, but if someone doesn’t want to read my thoughts, tough s**t, they can just move on. There are many who do and many who need and appreciate both of you.

Please reconsider based on what we are trying to do here. Thanks for reading….

Aloha

#567 nhforhillary on 07.03.08 at 7:13 pm

Sent my e-mails to media and politicians

cnn and pelosi failed to go through

#568 ladyhawkke on 07.03.08 at 7:13 pm

Wow, I can’t keep up with you guys, have been on for over 2 hours and between going to links and reading posts, I’m still not done. My husband says I’m addicted. Truly, I admire Murphy and all of you for being so dedicated, it takes a lot of time and I do have to go and fix dinner! But I do want to thank #433 Swiss4Hillary for the donation, #441 I just e-mailed Brazile thru a new e-mail address asking her to quit the DNC and sent her the link I found here where she lied thru her teeth, and also thanks to #457. I thought Murphy was coming on on 8pm, according to Will Bower; however, Murphy said 7pm. I’ll check on that now.

#569 PumaAllie on 07.03.08 at 7:14 pm

about the radio show, it’s at 8PM EASTERN tonight.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/07/04/NO-WE-WONT-INTERVIEW-WITH-DARRAGH-MURPHY-PUMAPAC

too late for me, as it will be 1 AM here. I will have to listen in the morning with my cereals.

#570 halligan on 07.03.08 at 7:14 pm

Aloha

Yes, we need to keep saying these positive things to Antifish and Go. Go, go go go? Where are you?

#571 BarbNOBO on 07.03.08 at 7:14 pm

e-mail was returned too!!
I’m going to be checking flights to Denver from Pittsburgh, PA or Cleveland, OH. Is anyone going to Denver from either of those areas?

#572 nhforhillary on 07.03.08 at 7:14 pm

I sent the following e-mail to Donna Brazile to Celebrate the 4th of July!!!!

Dear Donna

The “UNFAIRNESS” of the democratic party and the Rules committee added insults to injury. This is America and I believe whole-heartedly that votes must be counted the way they were cast. I totally disagree with stealing votes, manipulating the process, whether it is done by either the DNC or the candidate or both. This is America, votes have to count. It goes to the core principles of freedom and democracy. In New Hampshire our motto is, “live free or die”. I don’t care if other people voted before my state, we must recognize and count their votes at full strength. Since the DNC has unwisely “selected” a nominee, I have “elected” to use my vote as a Declaration of Independence from the injustices perpetrated by the DNC.

The 4th of July means something to me and “fireworks” mean something to me so, please educate your “selected candidate” that the “star spangled banner” is still being waved today! American Glory and Honor are what fireworks represent to me. It isn’t about “just watching fireworks”, it’s about “FEELING THEM IN YOUR HEART”…a tradition that runs deep in our soul. You can wear flag pins all day, give speeches on being a patriot and talk about “just watching fireworks”, but its not going to make him capable of “feeling” that way.

Nancy in New Hampshire

p.s.
I bet that you’ll regret that you “selected” a dud for a candidate when you could have had a firecracker ! A sparkler, when you could have had fireworks!! There’s still time to make things right

#573 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 7:15 pm

I will add to my previous post that

Supporting Hillary’s candidacy is far more compelling a goal than party reform. Agree party reform is critical, but I believe we need specific goals that are achievable immediately.

Party reform thuds right now …(in my humble opinion)

#574 halligan on 07.03.08 at 7:15 pm

Go, quit lurking and get back in here.

#575 BarbNOBO on 07.03.08 at 7:15 pm

e-mail to Nancy Pelosi was returned too.

#576 snowtiger on 07.03.08 at 7:15 pm

How about putting a webpage up that is a flier. That way we not so artistic types can just run it off our copiers?
Has that been suggested? I haven’t been able to read all the posts.

#577 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 7:16 pm

Ok, so I just heard on Fox that BO held a news conference to say that he’s ‘adjusting’ his Iraq policy, and then he had to hold another news conference to explain what the h#$% he really meant the first time!

BWAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAA!

Is he for real? I mean really, is he for real? This cannot continue, and if this country actually votes this guy into the most powerful office in the world – I’m going into hiding for at least four years. Either that, or I’m going to need major therapy after listening to him speak and then all then have to suffer through all the follow-up speeches and surrogates ‘explaining’ what he really meant. Argh!

WHERE’S HILLARY and some competance for crying out loud ????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#578 NoObo on 07.03.08 at 7:17 pm

Go! Go! Go!! Come back! Come back! Come back!
I hope that helps…I am cheering.

#579 halligan on 07.03.08 at 7:17 pm

Murphy

Here’s your daily thank you.

#580 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 7:17 pm

#566 alohapuma. “but I concluded our purpose here is more important than my feelings”

Amen! I rarely blog, but when i do, no one replies. That’s ok, the cause is more important. An&Go come back.

#581 StarDust on 07.03.08 at 7:18 pm

# 550 MadLogic

Be careful about putting fliers in the mailbox. There is a federal law agaisn’t it. Read more about that here.

Postal Service: No material in or on mailboxes without stamps

http://www.eagletribune.com/punewsnh/local_story_077055135.html?keyword=topstory

#582 phillyforhillary on 07.03.08 at 7:19 pm

#550 MadLogic

If you plan to hand out flyers to people’s homes you should know that it is illegal to put anything but postmarked mail in mailboxes in the U.S. What you can do is put the flyers in front of doors, decorative metal on screen doors, wrought iron railings, etc., but not mailboxes. We don’t need to give the Obama campaign and media anything to crow about.

In fact, I plan to do a little canvassing that way in my neighborhood in the next few days.

#583 halligan on 07.03.08 at 7:20 pm

#577 PAHill

Yep! Agree completely. When “teflon” gets scratched, it looses its ability to do the job. So, PUMAs, let’s continue to scratch O in the ways we’ve been doing. GRRRRRRRRR!

#584 NewOrleansPuma on 07.03.08 at 7:20 pm

#425Webfoot: Your research and your letter are spectacular. Clearly, this guy and his cohorts have violated and will continue to violate almost everything listed in the Code. Why this PumaPac is so utterly important! It is my view, and has been for sometime, that we are in the middle of an ongoing coup in this country. Barack OBAMA IS THE MOST DANGEROUS FIGURE THAT HAS APPEARED IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY. We all must do whatever we have the capacity and wherewithall to do, to stop him. Your contribution in your research, in your letter, and in your posting is superb! I personally salute you and Thank You. Keep it up. We will all keep it up. We will never back down or give it up. Never. Not now. Not later, Never, NOT EVER1

#585 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 7:20 pm

Don’t forget blogtalk PUMA radio tonight with our own D. Murphy interview at 8PM ET at:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

Just go to the page then keep an eye on the “set reminder” button. At about 8 PM ET that button should automatically change to a “listen now” button and just click on it to listen to the broadcast.

#586 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 7:20 pm

#550 MadLogic… it’s a great idea… I think some PUMAS are already handing out flyers, but your suggetion to tkkep doing it every week until august is even better.

I try to have some with me everywhere I go for that purpose.

#587 fedupdem2008 on 07.03.08 at 7:21 pm

Hi all & MsBinMD #481

I hope I didn’t give the impression that you (or anyone) should do all this personally & not ask for help from others, when I wrote ab it “seeming possible without resorting to professional web-experts companies…”??!

My intended msg was that we don’t need to feel alone or help/hopeless when faced with the extensive cyber skills of BO supporters;) …That I have confidence that these & more specialized skills & know-how exists amongst PUMAs & JSND coalition members and they will help us out as needed;) (ie, ‘shortcuts!’–no time now study ‘the concept’–just show me what works!;)

What I meant is, rather than feel no choice left but to hire a professional web-tech company, we could look to PUMA experts here & coalition, and even fellow democrats-friendly sites/orgs for assistance.

And re: nonPuma affiliated sites-these too should be amenable to help those in need. The internet, & blogosphere esp, fiercely believe in no censorship-independent control-free,open resources-access to all-no hierarchy, etc (kinda like a libertarian-ish credo of the Internet;) soooo, if they really believe this, then regardless of personal politics, these cyber-help sites & blogs should come through…!?!:o)

Well, that is my optimism!

**MsBinMD–was your gmail acct hijacked? one of my yahoo accts was–after searching hi & lo sites/forums for info, found a number direct to actual living Yahoo tech who solved the problem with me over the phone that nite!:) The yahoo guy said it likely wasn’t a hijacked acct, more a server, dsl, settings,etc error or oversight…(but this *was* during a time when a slew of email & Ebay account hijacks…a number of offenders seem based in China/HK…? Don’t know if this is correct, do not want to malign anyone or any country!! Just heads up if site info changes parts to chinese characters (as mine did when i tried to recover my password–whoa, i can’t even read the security question!;) Even if I could, the answers would have been changed. Only way is with the super duper Yahoo tech living humans. Kudos to Yahoo!!

From what i recall, Google only provides an online form to fill out–it’s solely for account access control problems, but that seems the only real contact/communication from Google. Altho most seemed to eventually be assisted in regaining their accounts. Things may be difft or someone knows more…anyone?

After that, read up & found these tips—don’t use any real info regarding your birthdate, zip code, or easily verifiable answers like ur ‘pet name’ (unless u make it an unrelated answer;)
Seems kinda overboard to me, but this site asserts majority of ID theft comes fm acquaintances (or vengeful ex;) & easy to determine real info.

(just fyi-for anyone who needs;)

#588 Jeremy on 07.03.08 at 7:21 pm

See #523 BarbNOBO and nhforhillary. None of those addresses to Pelosi with the mail.gov address went for me. And the one beginning with americanvoices would never send, period. I got a message saying the address was not correctly formatted, etc. However, when I went back to the original mail that I had c/p all of the addresses in, the americanvoices@mail.house.gov. was after Al Gores’s and that one DID NOT bounce. Go figure?

#589 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 7:22 pm

#576 snowtiger on 07.03.08 at 7:15 pm
——————–

Snowtiger, what are we talking about? Is this something we can do at the Action Center?

#590 A-Will on 07.03.08 at 7:23 pm

#534 MamaPuma – I agree that it’s the best way to get coverage for us, which is what we need right now. Wow! That’s a lot of emails. :D

I’ll send mine in a few.

#537 hailligan – Nice letter to Mrs. E.

#580 – Hi – I’m responding to your email. ;)

#591 catsrlove on 07.03.08 at 7:23 pm

#384 sandipuma… You are upset because no one acknowledged you were here?? So what? No one acknowledged me, but that is not what I am here for..

I am here to read and learn from others; also to post what I think. Think of our cause, and why we are here.

I wish I could join you in Denver. I have fibromyalgia and an arthritic back, and am limited to 2 or 3 hour drives. I had to miss my Granddaughter’s graduation on June 12, because I could not ride the 7 hours to get to Millville, N.J.. The closest airport to Millville is Philadelphia..

I will be there with you in spirit. I just ordered two different Hillary pins: “I’m for Hillary…Ask me why”, and one with a picture of Hillary on it. I have the original one.

I wanted one of the “I Love Hillary” t-shirts – no deal: same thing with jackets.. I have the navy blue shirt, but it goes down to my knees.. I am short..

Did you hear about the singing of “The Star Spangled Banner” in Denver today? Some jazz singer (sorry, I am a George Strait fan) sang the words to the Black National Anthem. So it starts.

Wonder if she is going to sing at the Democratic National Convention?? Would not surprise me in the least..

Fred, I would send you my address for a couple of your posters that I could post on our land if I had your e-mail address. It is illegal to post anything on the utility posts.. So grateful that you are able to help us get out our message..

I have thought out our options if Hillary is not the candidate. The only way we can make the big impact we seek is to vote for John McCain.

I have been a Democrat most of my adult life. I never thought I would be voting for a Republican this year of all years. I have to. I will not be a part of putting the “selected one” in office. I am not a racist. I live in “bitter PA” as the SO called us.

My Country is more important to me than what is left of my party.

Please all of my PUMA PALS have a Happy and Safe 4th of July.

Purrs to all.. -^..^-

#592 storytellers on 07.03.08 at 7:25 pm

what happen @ antifish & goanderson

#593 Swiss4Hillary on 07.03.08 at 7:27 pm

#552 Taffy: “THANK YOU Can you hear us across the ocean and mountains??”

Taffy, you bet I can. The Denver convention ends on my birthday, and believe me, my single one wish will be fulfilled if you Pumas can make yourself heard, loudly and very clearly!

#594 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 7:27 pm

Thanks all for the replies, abut rhe legal issues. Its difficult to Hillary’s older voters a say, when the press is SO BIASED. Still i think it is a good that 12,000 people like Mamapuma says respond today, tat each person can do fliers to some homes. The words will spread around.

#595 A-Will on 07.03.08 at 7:27 pm

***Question*** How do I print the postcards for today’s action? Are they front and back?

#596 InuHanyou1701 on 07.03.08 at 7:29 pm

GO! goandersen, antifish! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE come back! We miss you!!!

(On a non political, non related topic PUMAs. After a few blunders, the cake is done. Looks good, haven’t iced it yet. Trick is going to be getting it out of the pan because in my infinite wisdom, I forgot to put the PAM in the bottom of the pan. X.x (This was after forgetting to add the water to the batter. I tell ya something is seriously wrong with my brain!) I will return later I promise!) goandersen! antifish! I want to see you here when I get back! (PLEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!) :( :( :(

#597 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 7:29 pm

oops, excuse my spellings, i’m very tired.

#598 W. Lotus on 07.03.08 at 7:31 pm

I am glad to read of other people’s responses to Donna Brazille. This is the response I sent to her form email:

“If what naysayers claim about Ms. Murphy is true, it is sad that an alleged closet Republican listens to disaffected Democrats better than our own party does…or in my case, my former party. Since I cannot, in good conscience, support an unready candidate or the party that tried to push him down my throat, I’m glad to support PUMA PAC.”

#599 NewOrleansPuma on 07.03.08 at 7:35 pm

#588Jeremy and other trying to e-mail THE MADAME, I.E. MADAME SPEAKER PELOSI: Nancy is clearly playing with her e-mail again. During the primary, I worked as a volunteer HillaryRapidResponder, day after day writing and sending e-mails to various comments to jerks of the day. Action Alerts were sent to us and we acted. One time I tried to send on my own an email to The Madame. Her addresses were not accepting email ;messages were being returned. One thing I would suggest is that there are so many going in that the system can’t handle it…Yes, indeed! However, when it happened two days in a row to me, I went to the Suggestions to the Campaign window on the Rapid Responders site and said I was going to send my email to every person in the Senate and the House and ask them to please give it to the Speaker since she clearly didn’t want to hear from me or any of us. Guess what?
The email magicly began the next day to receive messages. The Madame likes things neat and tidy, as we know…The Madame would definitely not want others, especially Republicans to get her emails..So I suggest that you and others simply pick a few or everybody in the House and Senate and send your emails for the Madame to them with this little salutation…Sen or Congr. whoever, Would you kindly pass this email message to Speaker Pelosi for me. She apparently is too busy to hear from us and refuses to accept email..Thanks so much! A grateful Puma. The Madame will indeed pay attention to that!

#600 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 07.03.08 at 7:35 pm

#591 – You have a good 4th as well. People rarely respond to me either but like you, I’m here to get information so that I can respond intelligently to the you-know-whos. Besides, I’m kind of a loner so it’s not a big deal to me if people don’t acknowledge me.

I think that many of our regulars have been working so hard and not getting enough rest and time for themselves. Thanks everyone for working hard but remember to take some down time to rest. This is going to be a marathon and we need everyone at their best. You are all loved, appreciated, needed and wanted. Have a good 4th.

Also, I’m a little bummed that Donna doesn’t respond to my emails :-(

#601 SusyT on 07.03.08 at 7:36 pm

Murphy, just made my donation for Denver. I would like to get in touch with any PUMAs from Jacksonville. Any Jacksonville PUMAs out here tonight?

#602 MamaPuma on 07.03.08 at 7:37 pm

PUMAs

Please help me

I am logged on to blog radio but do not know how to listen to the interview

what should I do

Thank you powerful, smart, techie, kind PUMAs

#603 DaddysDarlin on 07.03.08 at 7:38 pm

Whoa, did I miss something, where are my friends antifish and goanderson? What happened?

#604 william DenverCO on 07.03.08 at 7:39 pm

Does anyone know the email that Cynthia Ruccia gave over the radio? I just missed it? I would appreciate your help on this.
thanks

#605 Jeremy on 07.03.08 at 7:40 pm

MuchAdo #600. Are you in Texas? In past posts I recall you talking about being in Texas. I respect privacy so not stalking..lol.

#606 TrishfromCanada on 07.03.08 at 7:42 pm

#602 MamaPuma

I don’t think the option to listen is available yet. I’m not seeing a listen live button yet

#607 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 7:42 pm

#604 william DenverCO

cruccia@ymail.

#608 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 07.03.08 at 7:42 pm

#605 Jeremy, Yes in Houston. I don’t mind being stalked by PUMAS.

#609 Fred on 07.03.08 at 7:43 pm

CAN WE FOCUS ?

Surely we are here for more noble causes than our own hurt feelings.

Please lets not get personal with each other. I am here for two reasons : No Obama and I love my country.
I refuse to take offense at anything said or implied in this blog because I am single minded in my focus.

Lets get back into the ring – there is much work to be done.

#610 BillieJo on 07.03.08 at 7:43 pm

Can someone please send me the link to hear murphy today on the talk radio…I was listening to puma news, not murphy…couldn’t find it on their site. Thanks.

#611 DaddysDarlin on 07.03.08 at 7:44 pm

Sandipuma is gone to? What is going on Pumas?

#612 TrishfromCanada on 07.03.08 at 7:45 pm

#610 BillieJo

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/07/04/NO-WE-WONT-INTERVIEW-WITH-DARRAGH-MURPHY-PUMAPAC

#613 Fred on 07.03.08 at 7:45 pm

Murphy – I just emailed you final Poster . Please post it on the PUMA site so that people can download and print it for this weekend if they want to.

If OK, I need to send it to the printer for the 10,000 sheets. I hope boots hit the ground when this is ready
early next week.

#614 jane-pa on 07.03.08 at 7:46 pm

is Murphy on at 8 est?

#615 StarDust on 07.03.08 at 7:46 pm

Well said # 598 W.Lotus

Kicked aside by our own party, now they want to throw around silly stories that those dang Republicans are taking us in (LOL) Murphy’s not one – but I don’t blame the republican’s one bit. Silly DNC they started the mess now there complaining about it.

#616 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 7:47 pm

Yes, 8pm EDT

#617 InuHanyou1701 on 07.03.08 at 7:47 pm

#611 DaddysDarlin

As someone said earlier, I don’t think Murphy wants a repeat of what happened. You can see the conversation toward the end of yesterday’s thread (Not last night’s). Hope that helps.

#618 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 7:49 pm

to all, i think:
-virginia.puma made a mistake about *61 standings on capital punishment for peadophelia. (I knew it was a mistake, so didn’t think too much of it)
-headoverhills came late in the blog and jump to the gun on that mistake/mistunderstanding.
-Antifish/goanderson defended virginia.puma, and that’s how it started and ended.
((((All just a big misunderstanding)))) Hope i got that right.

#619 Elaine on 07.03.08 at 7:49 pm

Here you can get to Murphy’s talk 8 pm

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/07/04/NO-WE-WONT-INTERVIEW-WITH-DARRAGH-MURPHY-PUMAPAC

#620 bellecat on 07.03.08 at 7:50 pm

Wow! Taffy:
You are one Annie get your guns!…

#621 Mary Beth613 on 07.03.08 at 7:50 pm

Hillary: 20.08
Denver: 15.00
Puma: 15.00
Haven’t been here today, because have been looking at other sites, and God there are a lot of anti BO’s
Haven’t read all the comments but noticed a lot of wrote letters today. Who did you write to? I sent faxes yesterday to Gov. Rendell and Sen. BO . Anything else?
Happy 4th to all, and I’ll be conversing later with a cocktail and Rico.

#622 BillieJo on 07.03.08 at 7:50 pm

Thanks TrishFrom Rodham Canada, you are the best.

#623 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 7:50 pm

#505 utahpuma on 07.03.08 at 6:12 pm #453 PA4HILL08

I wanted to locate others in my area who donated to Hillary. You mentioned the FEC website, then addresses on HuffPost.

I believe there are only two of us from UT on here so I wanted to see if I could get some others

Can you provide website addresses for FEC and HuffPost for me?

Thanks

——————————–

They are on the links page under “Other Search Resources” in the Action Center. :)

http://pumapacusa.org/links.html

#624 wontbackdown on 07.03.08 at 7:51 pm

#595 A-Will … yes

#625 deadgirlsrise on 07.03.08 at 7:51 pm

I sent the PUMA letter to the media.

#626 murphy on 07.03.08 at 7:52 pm

I’ll be on the radio in a few minutes.

#627 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 7:52 pm

Don’t forget blogtalk PUMA radio tonight with our own D. Murphy interview at 8PM ET at:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

Just go to the page then keep an eye on the “set reminder” button. At about 8 PM ET that button should automatically change to a “listen now” button and just click on it to listen to the broadcast.

#628 TrishfromCanada on 07.03.08 at 7:53 pm

MSNBC deleted the letter without reading it, I’m wounded!

#629 sarapuma on 07.03.08 at 7:53 pm

I got into this argument tonight with an old friend.
I’m still really upset I cried for an hour.

He said we shouldn’t let oriental people (yellow was his word) into Puma but I said no, they are really like us, maybe even nicer.

He laughed.

I’m going to go to bed- but how do you good PUMAs think I should respond tomorrow?

Puuuurrr

How should I come back

#630 DancesWithPumas on 07.03.08 at 7:53 pm

MAMA PUMA

CLICK ON THE LINK IN ABOVE POST
tURN ON YOUR SPEAKERS (YOU MIGHT WANT TO USE HEADPHONES TO IMPROVE THE SOUND QUALITY)

THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO”NO WE WON’T”
THE CLICK ON THE BLUE TEXT IN THE BLACK BOX:
“NO WE WON’T INTERVIEW WITH DARRAGH MURPHY – PUMAPAC”
You should hear the program once it begins.
There’s also a “chat available” icon/link that will take you to the chatroom. You can listen and chat simultaneously.

caps sorry. rushing.

#631 hillfan4mccain on 07.03.08 at 7:54 pm

#591 catsrlove

I too have Fibro, lets chat sometime. Maybe we can help each other with the puma stuff.
Linda

#632 Jeremy on 07.03.08 at 7:54 pm

#608-Cool. Are you familiar with Elgin or it could be Bagby Street. Where they intersect with W. Alabama? Anyway, it is the Travis exit off Hwy 59. After you take a left under 59 there is another intersection. There is a convenience store after that intersection. It is bright yellow. I did not catch the name of it. Anyway, if you are familiar with the area, check out the whole side of that store and the Murial. They must have just finished it. There were about 30 people along the side taking pictures and there was one camera group from Channel 2, I think. If you are familiar with the area, check it out when you have time.

#633 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 7:55 pm

Don’t forget blogtalk PUMA radio tonight with our own D. Murphy interview at 8PM ET at:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

Just go to the page then keep an eye on the “set reminder” button. At about 8 PM ET that button should automatically change to a “listen now” button and just click on it to listen to the broadcast.

4 minutes to show time!

#634 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 07.03.08 at 7:56 pm

#632 – Yes, I’m familiar with that area. I used to live in an apartment off of Dallas. I’ll swing by there tomorrow.

#635 hillfan4mccain on 07.03.08 at 7:56 pm

You all have to admit, Bo is waisting no time changing his ideas and policies!

#636 MsBinMD on 07.03.08 at 7:57 pm

#587 FEDUPDEM -

I set up a gmail account to use for a project I was going to use for PUMA and for all PUMA correspondence.
Didn’t want to compromise some client information on my regularly used email.
Used it a few times and opened an email from some jerk who had a letter that I was instructed to forward to “murphy” (our Murphy).
From that point on my account was locked up. She sent another one but I was not even able to access it.
I did forward to Murphy and MamaPuma (they asked me to).
I tried to create another gmail (twice) with alternate information and they are all compromised. Completely frozen.
My son is concerned that they have linked to their own cite through my ISP address because of the word “puma” in my address, in order to intercept mail and obtain other adresses.
I do know other PUMAs with gmail were affected that day also.
So that is where I am. Am going to find another site to set up email and not use word puma in my name at all.
I am a yahoo fan and someone on here suggested ymail.
They are relentless.

#637 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 7:57 pm

Don’t forget blogtalk PUMA radio tonight with our own D. Murphy interview at 8PM ET at:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

Just go to the page then keep an eye on the “set reminder” button. At about 8 PM ET that button should automatically change to a “listen now” button and just click on it to listen to the broadcast.

2 minutes to show time!

#638 bythelake on 07.03.08 at 7:58 pm

I am so excited for Murphy!

#639 Lara08 on 07.03.08 at 7:59 pm

Hello everyone,
Just checking in. I sent me e-mails out to MSM and politicians.

Happy Birthday PUMAs and Murphy! I was here on June 3rd and will be here on August 3rd, and until we can get this country and OUR Party back on track.

Had recent contact with BO people, who still don’t seem to think they did anything wrong. They have great disdain for anyone who dares to point out BOs great flaws and the unethical behavior of Axelrod. They seem to be proud of this behavior. It is as if they think they are better/smarter people for having done what they did in the primaries. In the near future psychologists will have to develop a new name for their personality disorder. I don’t know if you can call them elitists or snobs (since I make more than the people I’m referring to and have more education). Even if it were true that HC’s supporters were mostly working-class people, immigrants, and women over 35 (and we know this isn’t entirely true, as people from all walks of like supported her), why would you feel good about mistreating and disenfranchising a sector of the population that you as a Democrat claim to want to represent/help? What an odd stance.

Enjoy your 4th of July holiday!

Best,
Lara08

#640 Jeremy on 07.03.08 at 8:00 pm

#634 Cool~You know the area. Just make sure you have your shades on and have an empty stomach. You won’t miss it, trust me.

#641 MsBinMD on 07.03.08 at 8:00 pm

Time for Murphy on radio!

#642 bellecat on 07.03.08 at 8:01 pm

My fellow PUMAs:

We need to do the growling nice and easy with each other.
Let’s use that angry energy towards our goals.

I read all your posts and there are few oops!

However, every single PUMA has a contribution to the cause.

Powow! antifish and goanderson.

Let’s stay focus!

#643 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 8:02 pm

It’s On!!

Don’t forget blogtalk PUMA radio tonight with our own D. Murphy interview at 8PM ET at:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

Just go to the page then keep an eye on the “set reminder” button. At about 8 PM ET that button should automatically change to a “listen now” button and just click on it to listen to the broadcast.

#644 snowtiger on 07.03.08 at 8:04 pm

#629 Huh?
My lady would not like that. She is half vietnamese ,(I’m Italian) a Vietnam war baby who had to be raised in a monastery because they have a tendency to kill “halfbreeds” out there.
To say she is confused about all this is putting it mildly.
Tell him to go out and meet some “yellow” people and see what they are really like. Might make a friend or two.
Better to educate than condemn. Imo.

#645 Maryland PUMA on 07.03.08 at 8:04 pm

Murphy’s on:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

#646 MadLogic on 07.03.08 at 8:05 pm

################
I hope we do make the flier a priority DAILY ACTION Growl for 2-3 days or so, make sure it’s legal and all, for handing flier to homes. Aim at older folks who don’t use the internet. Have each puma reach a QUOTA of 100fliers/day or so for a few days.

#647 ClintonRules on 07.03.08 at 8:06 pm

can someone give me donna b’s email? i’m going to send a message pretending to be a *61 follower…i’m going to ask what she thinks about the “crazy PUMA PAC” and see if she responds…

#648 mpk on 07.03.08 at 8:06 pm

sarahpuma, my goodness it sounds like your friend has got some problems. I guess I would say “sorry that you feel that way-PUMAs accept everyone (except those who insist on being mean spirited, and disrespectful) who are willing to fight for what is right and just in the Democratic party”-

#649 W. Lotus on 07.03.08 at 8:08 pm

My emails to the media and to the politicians are sent! I’m glad to be a part of the major growl those folks are hearing, today!

#650 ABinNY on 07.03.08 at 8:09 pm

Just got home, finally! Sent “Going to Denver” letter to media group and the other group too.

#651 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 8:09 pm

Pumas, come join us and listen to Murphy on blogtalk radio. She’s on now!

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT

Just go to the page then click on the “listen now” button and just click on it to listen to the broadcast.

#652 Maryland PUMA on 07.03.08 at 8:09 pm

I have a suggestion (as usual)

To funnel some of this wonderful energy:

Can someone begin a list of usernames and personal skills? That way we can focus our outreach to those who have the skills?

For Example:
Joe PUMA: plumber
Jill PUMA: graphic design
Sam PUMA: web designer
Suzy PUMA: cheerleader

Etc. etc.? Can someone take this on? I really don’t have the time but we need the info to better streamline our talents?

Someone? Anyone?

#653 luispr08 on 07.03.08 at 8:13 pm

Hello Murphy & Pumas :
I dont always post comments when i come on here but I always read the blogs and i’m we are fighting for respect and justice for the people of this country.

GOD BLESS YOU PUMAS & MURPHY!

Murphy just a send my donation to Denver under Luis Medina ………………….. Phoenix AZ

#654 snowtiger on 07.03.08 at 8:13 pm

# 589. Sorry for not replying sooner . I was over at youtube arguing with some koolaid sippin geniuses. Can they get through a post without being vulgar? Any of them? *sigh*
Anyway. I was just thinking that if some one with the skill set to produce a good flier could place it up somewhere as a webpage where people like me, could just copy it and hand it out. I really lack the skill to produce something like that.
Also it would be pretty cost effective imo. :)
Think of how many fliers we could get out that way.
Maybe the action center can do it. I hope so.
Ok. Back to the battle. Must find more o-bots to educate. :)
BBL

#655 ontherocks on 07.03.08 at 8:13 pm

For anyone not listening to Murphy she is doing a great job.

Proud PUMA

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/07/04/NO-WE-WONT-INTERVIEW-WITH-DARRAGH-MURPHY-PUMAPAC

#656 1voice2stopcorruption on 07.03.08 at 8:15 pm

Hello Pumas. It’s been a long time and I had to re-register. I have to share my thoughts about the media today. I watched FOX, msnbc, and then cnn. Did anyone else notice how cnn has slowly been integrating arab anchors onto its network? American News anchors are losing their spots. Let me clarify that at first I thought it was an appropriate reflection of multi-culturalism, but now it almost seems that this change is more freqent. Maybe I am too analytical, but with the shock of the latest DNC Corruption, could it be that the American people are slowly being brainwashed to accept unity as in united countries=1? Jimmy Carter and many other far left Democratic Party Leaders are friends with the Middle Eastern countries and leaders that have hated us for years. Why? What do they know that we don’t? What are their plans? God only knows! I don’t think its in our best interest either.
The sad fact is that the Democratic Party is very Corrupt! They are bought $$$$$$$$$$$$! The almighty Dollar is their master. The very foundation of the United States is at risk right now!
Damn right we have to do something! Damn right we can’t just talk about it! I plan on going to the Convention! I already changed my party to Independent. I was robbed of my choice! They told me who it was going to be. Democracy? Hah! Where? We have a candidate now that wants partial birth abortion. Yah, just like a partial vote and a partial position on the war and a partial position on FISA and the list goes on. One foot here-one foot there…who in the world is this guy anyway?

Micheal Runthford -author of the book “THE NOSTRADAMUS CODE 2007-2012″ He talks about Nostradamus predicting a man rise to power in a country having Middle Eastern descent and having sympathisers because of this but also the North Africans help on rise to power. This man would be a deciever-to many-even those who help in rise to power. He speaks of peace but wants to create chaos and gain power in the Middle East too.

Look maybe I read too much and like I said, maybe I am too analyrical. But maybe doesn’t sound good either at this point. The whole idea that there is even a question mark at the thought of having Obama as President should be a sign.

#657 scathcart on 07.03.08 at 8:17 pm

#492Sheila7, Hi fellow PUMA, I am in Bridgeton Missouri. I was thinking you may be in MO also by reading your posts. I cannot wait to vote McCaskill out of office she is a total disgrace to this state. Did you get the e-mail from a Buffy Wicks today re: #61 campaign wanting help in MO. That will sure be a cold day. Where in MO are you. I sent my e-mail to the midwest region but have not had any response from anyone. Lets keep in touch.

#658 Jeremy on 07.03.08 at 8:18 pm

Maryland PUMA ck your mail regarding #652. Thanks

#659 EWard on 07.03.08 at 8:21 pm

Hello Murphy, MarylandPUMA, and Fellow PUMAs,

In the month since PUMA’s inception, we have evolved into a group that the DP, *61, the media, and others have all acknowledged our clout and votes. The political cartoons, interviews, articles, attacks, and so on mean we are a PAC to be reckoned with. However, we cannot underestimate the power of our opponents. They will do anything to shut down our voices.

They have the funds, organization, the media, lobbyists, organized web bloggers, and so on. What do we have? We have the courage and wisdom to take a stand against rampant corruption and cronyism in our own DP. More importantly, we care enough about our country to oppose a fake and unqualified politician that our own party “selected as our nominee.

I have tried to read as many posts as possible to understand how best we should organize. I hope everyone has emailed their regional PUMA member. The letters to the media organizations are vital to defeating *61. One of our goals will be to drive up his negatives. There are so many good PUMA writers, and I have read many excellent letters to delegates and reporters. We need to keep up the pressure.

We might want to add these three names to our media list. First, Haynes Johnson is a Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist that is writing a book about the changing norms in the 2008 Democratic race. He was shocked how the media and DP acted to have Hillary suspend her campaign.

Second, Steven Stark from the Boston Phoenix is another good guy. He wrote that “Clinton is being held to a different standard than virtually any other candidate in history.” Finally, I would add Howard Kurtz of the WP. In fact, it might be a good idea if Murphy could be on his Sunday program on CNN called “Reliable Sources.”

There are some PUMAs that are good with numbers and polls. We might need several poll monitors to help us interpret the poll data to rapidly respond on blogs.

I am going to repeat this again, we must “follow the money” coming from *61′s past and present campaigns. This is how President Nixon was forced to resign. Again, it took two years.

The challenges that we face are tremendous. However, I can live with my conscious that I am fighting the fraud and intimidation of our party and their “chosen” candidate.

Go Team PUMA!!!!

#660 heysandy on 07.03.08 at 8:21 pm

Just received an email from Nobama asking for my help to win PA…unbelievable! This was in reply to the daily growl email sent the other day (& fax). This guy is scary. Megalomaniacal and out of touch with reality. Again, scary and dangerous.

#661 Zee on 07.03.08 at 8:21 pm

#38 mimi1020

Mimi. just to let you know….any performer who has to insult audience members is FAILING. Just ask Michael Richards.

#662 scathcart on 07.03.08 at 8:21 pm

Murphy, Marylandpuma, mamapuma and all of our great family of PUMA’S have a wonderful and safe holliday.

#663 jenniforhillary on 07.03.08 at 8:24 pm

LOVE the PUMA!!

I just donated $100.44 for DENVER, and I will donate the same amount to Hillary to pay OFF her debt tomorrow….

I cannot tell you how much this site means to me and how I feel able to face the day after reading what everyone is doing across this country.

I thought that I was the only one calling, emailing, faxing, telegramming, and writing letters (I am now at over 300 letters), and then I found PUMA.

I feel more hopeful ever single day that that man will NOT be on the ticket, and Hillary will be in her rightful place as Presidential Candidate for the Democratic Party 2008. I have BOTH signs up in my yard (Hillary AND McCain) and BOTH bumper stickers on my car (Hilllary AND McCain) and I wear both pins.

I can’t go to Denver except with my heart and soul, and I am already there…waiting for Hillary, for the speeches, for the roll call vote, and for VICTORY. When I hear her name as the winner on that day I will know there is a God!

#664 StarDust on 07.03.08 at 8:25 pm

We have certainly got a very powerful voice in Murphy. I’m so proud of my little sis with claws.

#665 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 8:25 pm

#654 snowtiger on 07.03.08 at 8:13 pm
————————

Not quite sure what you’re asking. We already have a number of flyers on the Action Center at:

http://pumapacusa.org/fliers/fliers.html

#666 Roxy in cali on 07.03.08 at 8:25 pm

#659 heysandi,

Why don’t you send this link to *61?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAaRmxIX0hM&feature=related

#667 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 8:26 pm

#662 jenniforhillary on 07.03.08 at 8:24 pm
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WOW! That’s very generous. Pumas thank you!

#668 Zee on 07.03.08 at 8:27 pm

#80 GOSUEF4HIL

Yes, the Obamatrons are out en masse. One approached me in Mass. and I snapped, “I’m voting for McCain! Go steal someone else’s vote!”

#669 PA4HILL08 on 07.03.08 at 8:28 pm

#661 scathcart on 07.03.08 at 8:21 pm
Murphy, Marylandpuma, mamapuma and all of our great family of PUMA’S have a wonderful and safe holliday.

—————————-

Back atcha! ;)

#670 Jeremy on 07.03.08 at 8:29 pm

Thanks and be safe scathcart!

#671 ontherocks on 07.03.08 at 8:29 pm

# 662 That is great!!!

#672 michelle47 on 07.03.08 at 8:34 pm

virginiapuma, goanderson and antifish, I feel that I am at fault for the craziness that went on last night, although I did not know it until I logged on this morning. Everyone, I posted a comment about that poor 12 year old girl that was murdered in vermont, somehow someone on here got the idea that we were racists, but the fact is that we were talking about pedophilia, so how we were being labeled racists is beyond my scope of thinking. I think sometimes that people see not so frequent posters as trolls, I am not for Obama, never have been and never will be. My posts are infrequent because I lack the computer skills that many of you have, so I feel a bit inept at times….. To the 3 people I listed above please come back and accept my apology, I read everyday and know that you are all very important to this site and these people, again I do apologize if my very innocent comment set off a fire storm.

#673 BlackScorpio on 07.03.08 at 8:34 pm

I just send off emails to both of the groups (legislators and the press) and I feel great! I feel like I’m helping to make a difference!

#674 BrooklynNY on 07.03.08 at 8:35 pm

Sandipuma, Antifish, Goandersen

What happened? Where have you gone? I’ve only been on sporadically lately (out of the country now) and I come on and see you’ve all disappeared! PLEASE COME BACK. You are all invaluable members. We NEED YOU AND WANT YOU BACK! There are many of us out here who highlight your posts and thank our lucky stars you are part of this bunch of cats! We may not always vocalize it, but we value your contributions deeply.

#675 LatinPuma on 07.03.08 at 8:37 pm

#629 SaraPuma,

Respond with your heart’s conviction and I think you would be alright. Do not imposed yourself on your friend; his choices are his responsability, hence do not feel guilty for his shortcomings. (Additionally, how you further your approach to him on the subject is a matter of how much you value your relationship)

#676 ontherocks on 07.03.08 at 8:37 pm

# 671,
That was very nice of you, but I honestly do not think you were the cause of the posting war.

I want antifish, goanderson and virginapuma to come back. They all are awesome and I love reading their blogs.

#677 gordana.hill08 on 07.03.08 at 8:38 pm

#537 Halligan -

Wonderful letter to Elizabth Edwards!

GROWL POWER!

#678 josgirl on 07.03.08 at 8:39 pm

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