DENVER UPDATE, July 3, 2008 at 10:30pm: ORGANIZE UPDATE! Wow, Pumas — the response is overwhelming. We will be spending the weekend hammering out details and updating everyone. Remember, the most important thing is that you come to Denver. We’ll be there — with signs and banners and cameras. Don’t be anxious or insecure. It’s a big city — they can handle a few extras. Start making your plans to be there — especially on the 27th and 28th.
DENVER UPDATE, July 3, 2008 at 12:35pm: TRAVEL UPDATE! Puma PAC will be providing buses from New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Dallas, Jacksonville, and Washington DC to bring Pumas from all across the country to Denver, starting on August 24th. Please help pay for these buses. Many Pumas will find it difficult to pay for getting the time off, motels, food etc. Let’s help as many Puma PAC members as we can join us in Denver. This is a special BUSES TO DENVER FUND. All donations made here will go EXCLUSIVELY to paying for buses. If we can raise enough to hire 100 buses, then hell yes we’ll do it. If 20,000 members each throw in $10 bucks for a free ride to Denver for a fellow Puma we’ll have enough for 500 buses. Grab your fanny packs and get your days off from work Pumas. We’ll have a mighty convoy to Denver rolling on August 24th!
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Hundreds of people ask us if we’re going to Denver. Are we going to march on the convention; demand that Hillary’s delegates are allowed to vote; demand that Hillary Clinton be allowed to deliver a free and honest speech.
Are we going to Denver? You bet your ass we’re going to Denver.
I don’t care if there are only 50 middle-aged women like me standing in the rain with fanny packs and homemade signs. I don’t care if the inept, elitist clowns who have the audacity to believe they in any way deserve to be called leaders continue to pretend to ignore us; continue to attack us like dogs; continue to undermine, ridicule, bully, and harass us.
Are we going to Denver? Will we be there to witness the final act in the Shakespearean tragedy that Axelrod, Obama, and Dean have staged for us against our will and without our permission?
We wouldn’t miss it for the world.
If you want to go to Denver for front-row seats to the tragedy, pick up your tickets here. We’ll provide a plan, signs, permits, and a film crew. You provide yourself, your fanny pack, your righteous indignation, and your voice.
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Hello! I am SOOO dead broke- but I REALLY want to be there with you all.
I sent the e-mails letting the Media and the Politicians know Pumas are going to Denver!
Goodnight to all sweet drreams, have a wonderful holiday….Pumas rock
I am just back from vacation (yesterday) and was going through the posts today about the e-mails sent, I saw there were 12,000!! I would like to send too, I just couldn’t find the origin of the initial action.
Would someone please direct me?
Hello
#3 GOSUE4HIL
I believe I saw an action posted on today’s earleir blog, entitled “Denver”.
You can also go to the Action Center at:
http://www.pumapacusa.org where you check out the Daily Growl and other actions. There are also a ton of resources there.
Night All.
I’ll be back bright and early.
Amazing work today, and
tomorrow is another day!
I guess the comments section for this thread is on after all.
Trouble is… I don’t have a thing to say.
How about that old stand by “testing”.
I know, I’m being silly
Goodnight all. Great day for PUMAs. Thanks murphy for all you do. We all truly appreciate it more than you know.
DUH!!
I just read my e-mail from Normita and she had sent me the info, I just sent them.
I feel better now.
Happy 4th, catch up tomorrow
It looks like Obama needs a bigger place for his big head.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_9778858
Correct me if Im wrong…
Wasnt there something just recently about the DNC already having financial problems with the Convention? Now Obama wants to rent another building. Its not like they can give up the building they already have. The building they already have will be used the rest of the time that day and other days.
Then there is the problem of moving all those delegates back and forth; who is going to pay for that—Opps dont forget the gas prices.
For some reason I think Obama is getting a bit full of himself…
Doesnt Obama realize that his vote still stands on the super delegates. Already some in the party are getting a bit miffed with him. Hey we do have almost 6 weeks to go….
Hi all I havn’t been on in two days and I would love to go to Denver but since I can’t I will donate in case others can that don’t have the money my sister got a reply from Ms speaker said she wasn’t in her district so she couldn’t replyabout the subject so my sister is going to call her office she is also trying to get on the site here but is blocked by wordpress my gmail has been deleted strange things I never have problems with my pc but now things keep happening out of the norm I will be in Alaskaif I could get a refund I would go to Denver.
Does anyone know what/where to send the $5.44 to McCain?
Middle age go to Johnmccain.com some people are putting bo or dean in the spot for did a friend refer you?
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July 3, 2008 10:02 pm central.
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Proud Military Mom…
I will pay your way….how can I contact you? I cannot go and I want to help other women get there
jennifer in houston texas
I am from Netzero. Sandipuma is being block as of the moment. I will help her go online. Sandipuma said please tell Murphy. Thank you
G’night kitties.
Be nice to each other and growl at everyone else.
Go Anderson — yay!
xoxoxo
I’m going to repost my posts from downstairs (Just saw that we moved on up) so please bear (bare? @.@; I never know!) with me.
#580 MadLogic
Something I’d like to add to this is that even though you may not get a reply to your post, that doesn’t mean that you’re being ignored and no one is reading it. I know there are tons of you PUMAs out there that do the same thing I’m doing now. Reading through each and every post that has been made here today. And like me, you can’t exactly respond to each and every one. PUMAs please just be patient with each other and know that we see you, we hear you, and we love you. That’s my 2 cents.
(Repost from downstairs)
#909 goandersen
WELCOME BACK! *PUMA HUG!*
#909 goandersen
Ah I’m gonna cry. Not going to cry! Damnit! It’s not working!
(There. All reposted)
Hello… just sent my emails to both the press and to all the “politicians” and MoveON… keep moving..LOL
I would love to go to Denver… what’s the cost? How can I get there from Philadelphia? If I cannot go… i will contribute… I want to be part of this movement so ooo bad… It is so wonderful to know that I can be part of the counterculture again… yes i am a “boomer”..
sandipuma should send an email directly to murphy. she will handle it.
#918 goandersen (from downstairs)
My attempts to not cry were not working.
Hello All! This is my first post here. I will donate my $20.08 tomorrow. I am a regular on TaylorMarsh and I was a regular on hillaryclinton.com. Sometimes I tangle wits with some Obama supporters on cnn.com. Here was my last blog on TM tonite. Sleep well all! I look forward to great discourse in the coming weeks!
Taylor, God love you, I just cannot agree with you. I know after the primary, you shook off the loss and put your head down and charged forward for the Democratic party. If the leadership wasn’t so dense, you should have a position within the DNC. That said, I simply cannot agree with your assessment.
Firstly, you said that both candidates basically looked at going forward in Iraq the same way. They don’t. Senator Obama has been campaigning on ending the war NOW. TODAY. He has been saying that since before the beginning of the campaign.
He went on to say, after characterizing the war as the Bush-Clinton war, that he was the only person with a plan to get us out. He said this in his stump speeches, at rally’s and at fundraisers. Have you seen that plan? His plan says that he will have the United Nations convene a constitutional comittee on Iraq’s constitution where nobody would be allowed to leave the meeting until the reconcilliation is complete. Really? He is SO persuasive that everybody will sit there and work out all their differences at once? I’m not convinced.
Second, his plans states that he will be a tough negotiator ‘…with Syria and Iran sending a clear message that they need to stop meddling in Iraq’s affairs…’ I trust he saw Iran’s leader being welcomed with open arms in Iraq. And what does he know about the Syrians? For that matter, what does he know about the Turks? What is he offering in terms of a stick, or does he plan to threaten Syria and Iran with force to ’send a clear message?’ These questions went unanswered during the primary amidst his absolutely positive stance on what he is able to do.
Finally, Senator Obama campaigned on the fact that his judgement is better than all the other candidates in the race, Dem or Repub. He campaigned that you want someone that would get it right from the start. Why then has his campaign then adopted the stance that his chief rival had to which he disparaged her for (with the great help of the mainstream media)?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25519279
Futhermore Taylor, with his very visible propensity to change positions when caught by his words, his inexperience or political expediency based on the audience he is talking to, I don’t know what he will do. Remember that he is getting a lot of money from a lot of big donors. I’m quite sure that he will be beholden to them. Will they ask to stay in Iraq longer? Will they ask to have a few more subcontracts for their companies? Who knows?
The only thing that is for sure is that Senator Obama panders, and it is evident that he does that for his own personal benefit. So I don’t know what his positions are. I know what he said, but he has no political background I can refer to to say he is a man of conviction. This is the scariest thing about him to date. I have no idea what he does or does not stand for. Again I say, I am waiting to hear what he has to say when he comes back from Iraq. He was steadfast about that 16 months saying he was right and everybody else was wrong. If that timeframe changes, will he admit that HE was initially wrong? Doubt it.
Scary, very scary……
bmw don’t remember who it was but someone earlier posted they were coming from philly and had airline round trip for $189 would have to go back through posts if no one speaks up
Might be cheaper to go to NY and catch one of the buses???
(((((goandersen))))) we’ve missed you and anti all day!!! we been sending wish thoughts all day!!
ain’t no bad pennies on this site…only mighty PUMAs!!!!!
Hi Goanderson and Antifish.
I loved this article and thought I’d repost then go to bed.
Warning to BO: DON’T POP THE CORK YET!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/dont_pop_the_cork_yet.html
Excerpt:
“All of the above examples of over confidence pale in comparison to the challenges Senator Obama faces within his own party and his share of the electorate. Despite their lofty attitude since winning the nomination, the truth is that while 18 million Democrats voted for Barack Obama, 18 million also voted against him. Whether or not the campaign wants to believe it, Senator Hillary Clinton’s supporters will not simply join the throngs of adoring fans that attend Obama’s rallies. They will have to be wooed and convinced as if the primary were beginning all over again. Senator Obama has less than two months before his coronation in Denver. If he can’t convince working-class men and upper-class women who voted for Clinton that he’s worthy of them, they might stay home or worse yet, cross party lines. Because of the support she garnered during the contests, Senator Clinton must be given a prominent, prime-time speaking role at the Democratic Convention. Should she blow the roof off the place, there’s no guarantee that some sizable amount of her delegates won’t vote for her anyway, even in the face of sure defeat. Call President George H.W. Bush and see how a divided and divisive nominating convention works out for the fall campaign.”
I say onward to the Convention!!
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July 3, 2008 10:15 pm central.
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I am a CPA (Certified Public Accountant) so I can do financial related actions, spreadsheets, etc.
pa dem regarding #903. Thanks for the input. This is in the “infant” stage. The best way to hone in on their specific skill is to ask them. For instance, Amarissa did pass along her specifics. Let the talent ROAR from that PUMA.
((((((18, 20, 21,24, 27))))))) Hugs.
Let’s get to work
Antifish is on her way.
Hi Pumas,
Just joined. People have been asking me if I’m supporting Obama now. I just reply, “Pumas”. They don’t know what it means yet.
About 5 months ago when I was still visiting KOS, I made the attached graphic to describe how I perceived many of the Obama supporters there. Boy, how accurate is this graphic now!
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j125/sarahfdavis/Obamasippycup.jpg
29 Hillmania
She will blow the roof off!! I will be there to cheer her on!
Even from the parking lot. I will not be put in some cage!
Thanks #31, will add the info.
28 Taffy
Oh yeah? LOL!
welcome back Goandersen
37 ((((((TrishfromCanada))))))
Hi sweetness.
can you check your mail please Goandersen
Recommended overnight listening: A love song to Hillary from Sophie B Hawkins!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwEiQOVzXdA&eurl=
Very cool, as is the site.
http://store.damnwewishyouwerepresident.com/hillaryt-shirt.aspx
The lyrics say it all……
39 TrishfromrodhamCanada
I just did. LOL!
Hi Goanderson and antifish! i came in late last night and had missed most everything…welcome back..i need my late night partners in crime!
antifish, whenever she gets here.
Welcome back! I am going to be slow in response PUMAs. So I apologize before hand if I’m not very quick on the draw!
41 ((((((((queen81)))))) hugs
antifish ought to be slinking in here any minute now.
Let’s all pounce and give big old wet licks!
Ok ok, I didn’t leave yet.
I wanted to post this so you all have some news you can chew on overnight.
Obama may accept nomination at Invesco Field
AP
Posted: 2008-07-03 21:44:25
DENVER (AP) – Barack Obama’s campaign is considering having him accept the Democratic presidential nomination at Invesco Field at Mile High instead of the Pepsi Center, the chosen site for the Democratic National Convention, two people with knowledge of convention planning said Thursday.
The two spoke on condition of anonymity because nothing has been confirmed.
Obama campaign spokeswoman Shannon Gilson said no decisions have been made.
Representatives for the convention host committee and Mayor John Hickenlooper declined to comment or said they did not know about the proposal. Colorado Democratic Party Chairwoman Pat Waak did not return a telephone message seeking comment.
Democratic National Convention Committee spokeswoman Natalie Wyeth said, “There’s nothing to announce.”
The convention will be held Aug. 25-28 at the Pepsi Center, with Obama scheduled to accept the Democratic presidential nomination on the final night, which also is the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington in 1963.
Obama would be the first black nominee of a major political party.
The Pepsi Center’s Web site says it can hold 21,000 people for special events. Invesco Field at Mile High, where the Denver Broncos play, seats more than 76,000.
Associated Press writers P. Solomon Banda and Catherine Tsai contributed to this report.
Hey,
Had to share something else Hillary inspired me to make. I made this about a year ago. I was getting a whiff of misogyny and sexism from some of my liberal friends. They couldn’t explain why they didn’t like Hillary and I made this video to get them to question themselves. I’d like to fill in the last frame with “hero” now. Any other suggestions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Nz5UB-UCw
good or I’m gonna have to drag my butt to GA and find her..and i’m out on workers comp, so I’ve got the time!!
Welcome home goandersen.
44 Maryland Puma
WTH!
Maryland-
I’m happy to assist with the email from last night, just let me know what you need!
#40 goandersen
Sent you back another one, I’m going to send you an e-mail from my real e-mail address as I really dislike yahoo.
Thanks for all the answers. … I am handicapped —bad knees… but if I can be there It would be one of the highlights of my 60 short years on this beautiful earth in this beautiful country… Happy 4th everyone…
If you have any ideas what the bus would cost let me know… i can be emailed at barbsadoll10@hotmail.com
and YUK… it appears Obama has my email addie… I can volunteer and donate to him. .. NO THANK YOU… ADIOS… SAYONARA… GOOD BYE… DON’T HANG WITH LIARS AND CHICAGO POLITICIANS…
GO PUMA’s
46 (((((((Maryland PUMA))))))) hugs
can’t stay away from the pac(k) too long.
Here’s another one…..
NRA to Target Obama With Big Ad Blitz
By JONATHAN MARTIN,politico.com
Posted: 2008-07-01 18:16:17
Filed Under: Elections News, Barack Obama
(July 1) – The National Rifle Association plans to spend about $40 million on this year’s campaign, with $15 million of that devoted to portraying Barack Obama as a threat to the Second Amendment rights upheld last week by the Supreme Court.
“Our members understand that if Barack Obama is elected president, and he has support in the Senate to confirm anti-gun Supreme Court nominees, [the District of Columbia v. Heller decision] could be taken away from us in the future,” Chris Cox, head of the NRA’s political arm, told Politico.
rest of article is here:
http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/nra-to-target-obama-with-big-ad-blitz/20080701161009990001
HI !! Just could not believe he is wiggling all around the Iraq promises …wow, he will be running out of things to ‘waffle’ around on before long….the MSM gives him so much air time to ’splain himself ..time for John McCain to take the gloves off and show him who the real American is. This Guy (bo) isn’t even truly nominated yet and he is needing a BIGGER venue for his acceptance speech…possibly a 12 hour one ala CASTRO…we need to send this guy packing …along with his teleprompter… back to his mansion in Chicago and his good neighbors the domestic terrorists Ayes & Dorn and his real church and mentor…oh, did you know that wright didn’t retire after all, guess he wants the bulk of that “faith based” initiative MONEY… his protege is itching to get his hands on, also known as OUR TAX DOLLARS…egads AMERICA wake up and smell the taint of dirty politics and dirty money! PUMA grrrrr!!!!
Good night all……. this girl is off to bed… did what i could and will figure out my budget for the month and see what i can contribute… couldn’t wait till the 4th though… sent my 20.08 to pay down HIll’s debt on the 1st….
BMW-
I would take the bus if i were you. besides the cramped plane and delays, the bus will be full of PUMAS and you can have yourself a hootin-nanny!
I’m ecstatic goandersen and antifish. So happy to see ya back. Let’s getter done!!!!!!!!!!
Got all those emails sent except the one that was cnn.com just wouldn’t go lol.
All of you have a wonderful weeksend and happy 4th.
Incredible work getting buses to Denver going!
Still don’t have official word here about specific goals for Denver, but I advocate we should not give up on Hillary.
I’m going to sign off as well but I want to leave this quote (again) and I will leave tomorrow too…
From JK Rowlings Commencement Address at Harvard and I quote
“Even your nationality sets you apart. The great majority of you belong to the world’s only remaining superpower. The way you vote, the way you live, the way you protest, the pressure you bring to bear on your government, has an impact way beyond your borders. That is your privilege, and your burden.”
What we are doing MATTERS. It matters beyond our experience, our life stories, our rightful indignation.
We are pebbles in a pond.
wow i thought i would never get back in here whoooo
Hi everyone. I was blocked by a third party
#47 Goandersen
I know, it makes me want to spit. First black american president?
He’s not black! I don’t get it.
Anyway, if I keep reading I’ll get riled up and it’ll be another 36 hour thing and that’s not good.
Enjoy picking that one apart.
#58 sandipuma
Welcome back sandipuma!
56 ((((pooh496))))) Hugs
antifish said she was on her way………..
LOL i had the guy from Netzero see if he could get in and thats how he figured a third party.but now i have no Google so i will call them back tomorrow
Hey sandipuma!
49 TrishfromCanada
that was blank???
hi goanderson sure glad your back
Trish
You’re probably sick of hearing this, but I really truly am getting to your stuff – I’m almost done with the logo and the Hillary growl for tomorrow. I’ll be up with the rooster in the morning so everyone has their assignments bright and early. (ok, don’t hold me to that…)
Hi sandipuma!
hi queen good to see you. I missed you all
wow Murphy, you’re getting a lot of posts, even after culling the trash. I can’t seem to post fast enough to comment!
Anyway my wish list for the future:
1. reform of the democratic primaries. One person=one vote. No superdelegates, no caucuses (without popular votes), no weighted delegations -winner take all primaries. (small states could be grouped and hold their primaries first, larger ones could follow – one possible scenerio). Of course it this had been the case this year, Hillary Clinton would be the nominee and much of the angst of Democratic primary would have been over long ago.
2. A continuing careful examination of all information concerning one Barack Obama; in line with confirming what many of the posters already suspect or concluded-that Barack Obama is unfit to be President of the U.S.
3. Resolution of the democratic nomination by selection of the most qualified candidate by the upcoming convention. This would require a little bit of forethought if one Barack Obama hasn’t fallen on his bonehead beforehand, but again I don’t see any other person than H. Clinton more qualified on the national stage.
4. In the event that Hillary is not select at the convention, than our support will include those whom we think is better capable of correcting the course this country has taken, be it John McCain, Ralph Nader or any of the others with judgment better than Barack Obama’s.
Just a note, I’m planning to vote for McCain in the absence of Hillary, but I sympathize with those who do otherwise. The future will sort the seers from the ramble.
Another note, Hillary shouldn’t accept the VP position in the unlikely event of Obama offering it to her. My feeling is Obama will drag many of his democratic associates through the dirt in his quest for glory and I don’t feel she would want to be part of it.
#64 goandersen
lol yes, was just sending my e-mail address so you could add it to your address book
See how important I think I am
Queen,
As soon as I can find my way around my inbox, I will certainly do so. Open to your suggestions for outreach!
Welcome home goanderson and antifish….
Lets get to work!!
((((((Big Hug))))))
hi inyouHanyou good to see you . I love my family
hi pooh glad to see you and hi Trish you Canuck you loll
64 (((((((sandipuma))))) hugs
How is your little ticker doin??
Shout out to goanderson and sandpuma. Missed you guys
More misogyny:
Will Cindy McCain’s wealth help or hurt her husband? Well, her mind-blowing credit card bills might hurt.
Like they would look at a man’s credit card bills and judge him. (no offense Puma men)
70 TrishrodhamfromCanada
LOL!
I added it to my address book. Oh, hell yeah, you are!
Hey Sandipuma – nice to see you back.
As I have said before Obama is turning pro-life.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5304404&page=1
well said EMCA!
especially the part about the popular vote. Superdelegates and the electoral college are outdated. they were created for a time period where people were not well informed and it was believed that they were incapable of making sound decisions on candidates. well we are all watching now and our vote should be the deciding factor.
well still not the best yet but went and picked up scrip today and a couple errands and still weak. Not as bad as the past 2 days. Thanks for asking. I wonder how i got blocked from pumapac???? the tach said it was a third party.I wonder if it was the HOUNDS
Hey Pumas!
Missed you guys.
ops tech
If anyone hasn’t read this they should… i haven’t been on all day, due to errands, car troubles, etc., but this is too good and I hope all will go to this and read… We PUMA’s are getting noticed!!!
76 (((((MuchAdoAboutSomething)))) hugs
Antifish said she was coming….hmmmm.
Is she downstairs?? Did someone lock the door??
hi antifish sooo happy your here
Dinghy me… here’s the website…LOL
http://www.freepowerboards.com/PUMACalltoAction/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2
antifish…
it’s ’bout time!
Shout out to antifish. You’ve been missed.
Last listing for the night. You know the drill if you would like to be listed. Thanks!
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July 3, 2008 10:44 pm central.
thatswhattimeitis
I am a CPA (Certified Public Accountant) so I can do financial related actions, spreadsheets, etc.
Amarissa
fluent in Spanish
I work Photoshop CS3
I do video editing in my PC (see my videos on my blog at: http://womenstate.blogspot.com/ My Videos are also posted on you tube: “Mysogyny:Voices from the Obama Camp” and “Patti Solis Doyle, Double Agent?”.
DancesWithPumas
graphics and website design
photoshop
flash
Webfoot
Legal Research
Ginanswo
calling in, faxing, mailing, copying, etc.
Michelle 47
Meeting Space available for organizational efforts-Ohio Area
ABinNY
Photographer with good skills in Photoshop CS2
bythelake
emails, faxes, donations, regular snail mail
ontherocks
calls, emailing, mailing super delegates and the media
sycoram_in_MO
emails, regular mails, sending out flyer’s, possible calls
1of18MilforHILL08
Keep a current list of possible revisions/changes in:
emails
addresses
fax numbers
to individuals/groups that members would like to contact.
What say you to a growl to Hillary urging her NOT to accept the VP position WHEN he offers it to her?
We don’t do doggie bags would be the title.
#74 sandipuma
hey chicha!
83 ANTI RODHAM FISH!!!
Big old wet cat licks!!
#83 antifish
Yay antifish! *Another big PUMA HUG!!!* Welcome back!
Sandipuma…Good to see you
G’night for sure now!!!
Night bmw60
#82 sandipuma
If you could send me your e-mail address to Trish738@yahoo.com, I’ll do you up a step by step set of instructions for you to follow to make sure your computer is safeguarded beyond the firewall.
Thats great we want to be noticed thats why i figured the Hounds had a hacker as the third party block me from here. I guess they didn’t like my letter
92 Maryland Puma
no doggie bags, no left-overs, no second-hand hand me downs. No Deal.
hey antifish welcome back
missed ya!
#92 Maryland PUMA
How about “no sloppy seconds”
Welcome back Antifish- now i can continue writing the song for your inauguration!
From the illustrious Tommy Christopher at AOL:
Dream Ticket Update: Looking Good
” A point said to be in Hillary’s favor is that Senator Obama, noticing increased gender-based attacks on Michelle Obama, sees Hillary as being able to act as a firewall for his wife.
This tracks somewhat with what I’ve been saying, except I see Hillary as a firewall for Barack, as well. He needs that so that he can still seem above the fray.
Furthermore, in discussions with high-level Republican donors, the Dream Ticket is being called McCain’s “worst nightmare,” as he is banking on picking up a lot of Clinton supporters, and stands to lose a chunk of his existing support from women. ”
Would some PUMAs like to chew on his hide? He’s in the can for bamie boy.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/27/dream-ticket-update-looking-good/
I’ll be right back. If i get blocked again i will e-mail Trish lol
((((((((PUMAS)))))))))))))
I have big old Pumas tears in my eyes. Thank you all so very much for the love.
Let’s get back to work. What have I missed?
#83 – Antifish
Welcome home.
Trish its sandi1wiz@NetZero.com and they are slow and grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
((((anti)))))) sorry i missed your return was reading the mess in denver papers online
Before I retire….want to float a balloon for a daily growl.
This is about following the money.
I would like to target the major corporate donors for Obama with a write-in campaign. Volunteering to oversee..
As distasteful as it might be to many…the reality is money talks…not that grassroots activism doesn’t (it does), but tugging on purse strings REALLY makes waves quickly.
We know who these major corporate donors are…lets blanket them with protest for usurping our democratic process.
Goodnight
antifish…
I’m willing to cut and paste the 600+ posts from the DENVER blog… but I’m not sure it would be appreciated.
; )
anti did you hear murphy’s radio show?
Go read what bmw60?
111 ((((((aloahpuma))))) hugs
I agree, do you have a plan?
maryland,
Is there a reason to believe Obama will offer Hillary the VP spot??? He will have to break rank with Teddy if he does.
Whaddya know?
600 dances??? thought it was closer to 1000
oh the days when it was 300 Glad those are behind us though!
Goanderson and antifish-Please exchange emails with me through Murphy. I would like very much to exchange comments and opinions with you but don’t want to post them anymore. Thanks again for standing by me last night. Welcome back and hope to hear from you.
Recap from the day
Murphy sent each puma two letters and list of people to send them to. Please do so.
Go to the day’s thread, watch the video and read the opening. You will be motivated.
Go to
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/07/04/NO-WE-WONT-INTERVIEW-WITH-DARRAGH-MURPHY-PUMAPAC
to listen to Murphy’s hour in the spotlight on No We Won’t blog radio.
Tomorrow’s Growl will be retiring Hillary’s debt.
“Fred” is having 10,000 professionally printed posters printed for pumas to email her for. She will send them. No charge for any of it.
“Fred” has also offered to get banners and signs printed for the Denver road trip.
That’s all I can recall off the top of my head, but of course, I’ve had my head buried in Photoshop all day.
Antifish . . .
welcome, we missed you
103 TrishfromCanada
Why take potatoe salad when you can have Ambrosia??
No matter who Obama has as VP, Hillary or not, he’s still unqualified and scary.
I’ve this before: Obama as Pres with Senator Clinton as VP, would be like Edgar Bergen letting Charlie McCarthy drive.
115 goanderson
I would be willing to write a letter to blanket the major corporate donors to be approved by Murphy and the leadership.
Then…we need to compile the addresses (email, snailmail and faxes) and send them en masse as well as copy the major news organizations.
That’s my plan…simple.
#109 sandipuma
ok expect an e-mail from me tomorrow. btw netzero is worse than comcast and that’s bad
TrishfromCanada
Ethyl?
Tomorrow’s growl is retiring Hillary’s debt. YEAH!!!!
Great!!!
72 alohapuma on 07.03.08 at 11:42 pm Welcome home goanderson and antifish….
Lets get to work!!
((((((Big Hug))))))
**********
Same here!!!
Check out: http://www.democracynow.org/2008/7/2/obama_pledges_to_expand_bush_program
discussion between Amy Goodman of Democracy Now and Reverend Jim Wallis, the founder and president of Sojourners
I think it is strange that Donna B. is trying to undermine Murphy just because she gave $ to McCain in 2000. I once voted for little Ross P., even joined his defeated group once, but that doesn’t make me less of a Democrat. Doesn’t make me adore Hillary any less nor does it mean that I will vote like the majority of PUMAs for McCain. No one owns our votes and we are not sheep. We all adore Hillary and will do with our vote what we feel is best for us. As the blog radio said, 3 positive points to vote for McCain, 2 positive to write in Hillary in states that count it for her or a third party. One positive vote not to vote at all. I will get one positive vote for not voting or I will get 5 points in voting for *61 if he asks Hillary to be VP or become a huge part of his cabinet. I could stomach him if I knew Hillary had real power in his cabinet as VP with a real job, as head of the committee that constructs the Universal Health Care System or something as big. We are all thinkers, not sheep, and Murphy is no sheep either Donna B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So Donna, keep thinking we are all Republicans here and you will be shocked this November when your job at the DNC is as valuable as a PUMA buck. Ca-ching! When *61 has to return to the senate as a defeated Jr. senator with little experience.
#112 Dances,
If if read 600 + posts, I wouldn’t be able to spend time with you guys, so please just fill me in on any breaking developments today. Did our nemesis flip-flop on anything else?
#113 Taffy
No, I missed the broadcast. I spent most of the day at an off-leash dog park with my little Shih Tzus, Rosie and Frodo. Today was little Rosie’s 2nd birthday! My son and his girlfriend came along. It was a nice relaxing day. I will definitely listen to it though.
Also check out:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/illinois-state-archives-letter-raises-questions-about-obama-s-records-claim … Obama …
127 ((((Middle age Female)))) Hugs
purrrrr, purrrrrrr
#116 alohapuma
It’s believed and reported that he already offered the VP to Hillary in the first private meeting and she said no to bo
Other than Denver – this was the topic of hot discussions today too:
Obama opens door to refining his Iraq policy
By JENNIFER LOVEN,AP
Posted: 2008-07-03 16:49:57
FARGO, N.D. (AP) – Democrat Barack Obama opened the door Thursday to refining his plan to bring U.S. troops home from Iraq in 16 months based on what he hears from military commanders during his upcoming trip there.
“I am going to do a thorough assessment when I’m there,” he told reporters on the airport tarmac here. “I’m sure I’ll have more information and continue to refine my policy.”
During his presidential campaign, Obama has gone from the hard-edged, vocal opposition to Iraq that defined his early candidacy to more nuanced rhetoric that calls for a phased-out drawdown of all combat brigades that, at a rate of one or two a month, could last 16 months. He has said that if al-Qaida builds bases in Iraq, he would keep troops either in the country or the region to carry out “targeted strikes.”
Republicans, who have been goading Obama to return to Iraq to see conditions for himself, pounced.
“There appears to be no issue that Barack Obama is not willing to reverse himself on for the sake of political expedience,” said Alex Conant, a spokesman for the national Republican Party. “Obama’s Iraq problem undermines the central premise of his candidacy and shows him to be a typical politician.”
Obama’s GOP rival, John McCain, has been a vocal supporter of the Iraq war and war policy has been a central disagreement between the two candidates.
But Obama insisted that his position has not changed at all.
He said he is saying now what he always has: The war was a mistake and needs to be brought to “a responsible end,” but “we need to be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in.” This means, he said, that his 16-month timeline “was always premised on” not endangering either U.S. troops or Iraq’s stability, which he had previously been told by commanders was possible.
“I’m going to continue to gather information to see whether those conditions still hold,” he said. “My goal is to end this conflict as soon as possible.”
Obama’s Web site contains this direct promise about Iraq: “Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al-Qaida attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al-Qaida.”
Although he did not specifically mention his 16-month timeline on Thursday, Obama called it “pure speculation” to suggest he has been softening or even backing off his position as violence lessens in Iraq.
“I continue to believe that it is a strategic error for us to maintain a long-term occupation in Iraq at a time when conditions in Afghanistan are worsening, al-Qaida is continuing to establish bases in areas of northwest Pakistan, resources there are severely strained and we are spending $10 to $12 billion a month in Iraq that we desperately need here at home, not to mention the strains on our military,” Obama said.
Obama plans a visit this summer to Jordan, Israel, Germany, France and the United Kingdom. The Illinois senator also has said he intends to visit Iraq and Afghanistan this summer as part of an official congressional trip that would be separate from the campaign-funded Mideast and European tour. It would be his second trip to Iraq.
Obama senior foreign policy adviser Susan Rice told reporters on a conference call that Obama would keep to his commitment to begin removing U.S. forces from Iraq “from the early days of his administration.” She said the 16-month timeline was based on “the best military advice that he has received” and that it appears to continue to be “still broadly applicable.”
“Obviously if there are fewer brigades or more brigades” there by the time a new administration takes office next year, she said, “that would adjust the timeline.”
Obama’s position has been that troops should only remain in Iraq to protect the U.S. embassy, engage in humanitarian efforts, and conduct counterterrorism operations. She said Obama would consider having the U.S. continue to train Iraqi police forces if they show some progress, “but he’s not interested in training one sector of Iraqi society to kill another.”
McCain was an early supporter of increasing the number of U.S. troops in Iraq as President Bush did last year. He wants to pursue the current counterinsurgency tactics to give Iraqis time to work out a political reconciliation. He has said he’s willing to see some U.S. troops stay there as much as 100 years but not if they are being wounded or killed in combat. Rather he supports keeping a military presence in that part of the world because of its volatility.
Puma’s sorry to step out…I promise I will catch up tomorrow…read evey post. If there is a comment on anything I’ve suggested I WILL read it tomorrow…
Good night felines
Remember…we are pebbles in a pond. We can not measure the value of what we are doing at this moment.
Goodnight
#125 goandersen
horseradish?
we sang happy birthday too anti. PUMA is one month old today. Happy birthday to your puppy too. I’m a sucker for dogs so keep an eye out
129 Billiejo
Brazilla is a waste of energy. She clearly is not one who can grasp rational thought.
It is like being in a crazy making relationship, that only makes you crazy then. I always just walk away.
Much more important tasks to attend to.
Let her spin in the wind.
#118 texassherry,
You are so welcome. Here is my email. I encourage Obamabots to email me if they are lurking here.
antifishpuma@gmail.com
136 TrishfromCanada
LOL! Legs crossed.
Barack has already fielded the VP slot to Hillary. Remember the meeting at Feinstein’s DC home? That is were the negotiations took place regarding her debt, regarding the June 7th speech, and the VP matter. Think about it. With all the visceral between the groups, Donna’s love for “us”, etc. His credibility is tanked as far as I am concerned and it was tanked prior…then Unity…what a laugh! Now, somehow he will convince HIS followers that Hillary really ROCKS…not following a magnanimous crowd’s suggestion. We know who she is. They don’t. She is better and owes him nothing, much less VP. If I am wrong, I will eat the cake. o.k.? (and I HATE sweets…ugggg)
One more inspiring thing from today regarding the letters in your inbox:
FROM MAMAPUMA
Today within one hour the PUMAs from this wesite sent over 12,000 emails to the DNC, and all the other politicians. But they also sent those letters to all of the major networks and all of the cable networks. They also sent those letters to the talk hosts on TV.
If we get media attention, we will be able to harness the power of millions. That is our job because we do not have millions of dollars.
Millions of voices – Voices of the Voters – are much more powerful than millions of dollars.
The letters to the politicians help us to get media attention and alert those politicians to the depth of our committment to this campaign.
PUMAs send those emails! Congratulations you are changing the world.
“Bitter Hoe Down! Folks Clinging to their Guns and God”
Fun… you’ll be up and dancing!
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/barack-this-ones-for-you/#comment-211
134 Maryland Puma
No Name just sounds like another Shrub with puppet strings.
#140 goandersen
Is why I like you, you get the hidden meaning
#133 TrishfromCanada on 07.04.08 at 12:01 am
#116 alohapuma
It’s believed and reported that he already offered the VP to Hillary in the first private meeting and she said no to bo
Where did you hear that? Diane F and she said they did not talk about her being VP.
138 go Rodham andersen, my post on this blog was partly for Brazilla but to other Obama supporters that may have that idea and are watching. If I thought I could change Donna’s mindset, I would have written it to her directly.
Okay – I just donated my $5.44 to McCain. I still can not remember when/why/who said to, but I just did it.
#118 Texassherry
If you email me I can forward it to Antifish and Goandersen.
Murphy is swamped with emails and I don’t know how long it will take her to do it.
Maryland,
Thank you. I’m going to go do my growls for today. BRB.
143 DancesWithPumas
That little girl was too cute!!
someone like the two lesbians too. They were cute too.
Well, damn, I missed all the fun with the sloppy seconds. LOL
I’m off to bed for real this time.
Glad everyone is home where they belong.
Hugs to all.
MarylandPUMA
#141 Jeremy Diane Feinstein said they did not talk about the VP slot from the news I heard. Actually, we don’t really know for sure what has been discussed, even with the 20 minute talk with the big dog. I even heard that *61 was going to have dinner with Bill (and Hillary?) in a day or two…that was when they talked a couple of days ago. I haven’t heard anything since.
145 TrishfromCanada
I get the visual too! LOL!
Night Maryland PUMA
Sweet Dreams and Stuff
#146 BillieJo
I’ll try to find where I read it, I read it last weekend so it should still be in my history
Please everybody, go over to Peacocks and Lilies
http://annabellep.wordpress.com/
and read Annabellep’s articles.
She has a Declaration of Objectives to the DNC she wants everybody to circulate and e-mail to any and all interested parties you can think of.
She spells it out in the post The Revolution Will Be Downloaded.
I think it’s worth the effort.
Hello….PUMAS
Murphy, I love the picture…..
I wish I could go to Denver, but I live in Georgia, am broke, I don’t know anyone there and I’m 18, so I cannot legally get a hotel room
I found something interesting…..McCain is competing in NY, he opened a campaign office there and several new polls only show a five to six point gap there, could be interesting……
154 goanderson
My positive attitude worked and our cheers of go, go, go, go worked. You’re here. Glad you’re back. What’s happening here?
Repost:
DancesWithPumas on 07.04.08 at 12:08 am
“Bitter Hoe Down! Folks Clinging to their Guns and God”
Fun… you’ll be up and dancing!
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/barack-this-ones-for-you/#comment-211
Dances
I think the lyrics should go:
“Hit the road Barrack, and don’t you come back no more no more, no more, no more.
Hit the road Barrack, and don’t you come back no more .”
Maryland PUMA-Thank you. I have Antifish now but I don’t have yours. I enjoyed talking to you too but I don’t feel compfortable posting after last night.
158 Hilligan
Was that you. Lordy, I thought I was hearing things! LOL!
I missed you all. Puuuurrrrrrr
160 mpdamon
Good one!
Maryland
Glad to know that letters, e-mails, et al are making a difference. And we’re just cubs . . . only 1 month old.
Just wait until we’re all grown up.
Antifish
You’re back. Cool. Everybody was whimpering all day today – where’s go, where’s anti. Thanks for coming back.
goanderson halligan is mayor. she was hacked. and aloha lost all her videos on youtube. she was hacked too
I read the comments last night and was so upset, I could not even post, I had to leave. I’m glad tonight is better.
now we just need texassherry to rejoin us. then we be a family again
55 TrishfromCanada on 07.04.08 at 12:17 am
#146 BillieJo
I’ll try to find where I read it, I read it last weekend so it should still be in my history
That would be great if you could find it. If he did offer VP to her and she turned him down I will have to rethink what my next plan is.
Go
Yes, it was downstairs somewhere. I posted everyone to keep a positive attitude, that you were here (lurking) and that you had come back (even though you hadn’t posted at that time). Everyone thought I was “nuts”, but they started cheering and kept it up every few minutes.
Texassherry
No worries. That issue has been resolved. Post away…..we love you.
MarylandPUMA@gmail.com
antifish…took forever scrolling for “prosteak”, thinking you were sneaking in…breathing again
#134 Maryland PUMA
“He has said he’s willing to see some U.S. troops stay there as much as 100 years but not if they are being wounded or killed in combat.”
All well and good, except for the fact that even if McCain wins the Presidential election, he won’t be President for 100 years. So that comment of his is off the table.
152 BillieJo on 07.04.08 at 12:15 am #141 Jeremy Diane Feinstein said they did not talk about the VP slot from the news I heard. Actually, we don’t really know for sure what has been discussed
I am repeating your last sentence above. My post is speculation, not fact. Hillary has too much more to offer this Country than being Barack Obama’s VP. That is my opinion and like I said, if I am wrong, I will eat the sweet crow….and I hate sweets, literally.
bo getting too big for britches. they put TONS of money into new tech equipment for media at pepsi center and now he thinks to go to invesco? Who going to pay?????
Good night all, it’s a new day. Happy Birthday to us
and Happy Birthday America. We hope to celebrate by giving her a president she can be proud of.
goanderson…oh my, you were missed…a big PUMA slurpy kiss
166 Taffy
halligan is mayor. Hack, hack , hack. What next?
I am glad I have really good firewalls.
165 halligan “whimpering” LOL!
#165 halligan,
I don’t think we’ve met. Welcome to the jungle and thank you for the kind words.
‘night, mpdamon
177 ((((((LilyMaid))))) hugs
and big old wet licks all over you too! LOL!
I missed you too. Can’t keep away from my lair.
#66 Maryland Rodham Puma! Good golly are you still working?! LOL!
175 Taffy
Find out who owns Invesco…
WOW, 12,000 in only one hour!
I can’t wait to see how many we did in 24 hours.
BTW, growl done
Maryland,
Sorry, couldn’t do the growls. I’ve run out of paper (my son uses it too for college and doesn’t tell me when it’s low). I’ll get some tomorrow and do the growls for today. Will there be a bus from Atlanta? I didn’t see it on the list.
goandersen! About time you get back here to your PACk! Golly, did we miss you friend!
Glad everyone is back
I missed you antifish and goandersen
ok everyone, does anyone truly think/feel that the super delegates will change their mind on Obama and vote for Hillary?
I have not been watching or reading any news. Do not want to hear anymore- oh Obama is so wonderful. YUK!!!!
So what do yall think? Will things turnaround for the better in August?
halligan is Mayor0102?
And antifish rodham puma is back too?!
Welcome home to all our ‘lost’ pumas! Don’t you ever scare our alpha female (ahem… Murphy) like that again! LOL!
We missed you!
186 ((((((PA4HILL))))) Big Hugs
You were missed as well. purrrrrr
Let’s Rock the House Pumas!
#188 rlp33
If the O’s polls keep sliding, and his money keeps sliding, and he keeps flip-flopping and racing over to the right… I’m thinking, ayep… favor will lean in our direction.
#168 Taffy-thank you. maybe in time.
#174 Jeremy …I don’t want you to eat your words
I think Hillary is best as president, but much better than just a senator. VP or in his cabinet would be a move up, God knows women sometimes have to go the slower road to move up, and it would make it easier for her to rerun in four years and run again as president. I want the convention to nominate her in August, but if that doesn’t happen, I just hate the thought of her only having to be a junior senator.
#189 antifish
see what happens whn you leave for a day? The mad hatter and alice visit the rabbit hole to question the red queen.
Hi matt,
Thank you. Good to be back.
To all of you, thank you very much. I had a great day, but you all weighed heavily on my minds. There was no way I wasn’t coming back! Love you all, (((((((Pumas)))))))!
Well now the liberals don’t like him, the moderates don’t like him, the hispanics don’t like him, the jews don’t like him, the asians don’t like him, the catholics don’t like him….it goes on and on and on.
He flip-flops more than John Kerry
Thats an artform, really.
195 TrishforCanada
LOL!
… and the cheshire cat likes her paws
#168 Taffy
Wholeheartedly agree!!!
I’m thinking about writing an email to CNN (Kind of a play on what piepiepie did) and pretending to be kind of ho hum about everything and ask them questions like “I’ve heard that you’ve been reporting only positive news about Barack Obama and leaving anything negative out. Is this true?” As it stands, they don’t respond to my other emails.
Is everyone on the night crew from the west coast? I am from Northern Calif.
195 TrishforCanada
lol and humpty dumpty really did have a big fat head
197 matt2008
The flies don’t like him either.
Ok, I am exhausted. Time for some rest for this weary puma. I’m so glad we have our puma family back together and am looking forward to some much needed time with my people family tomorrow. Ya’ll have a great 4th holiday! Be safe!
hugs and blessings to all!
g’night!
I wish the DNC convention was in Boston this year instead of 2004. I have tons of family there and it would be easier for Murphy to be there…..and I could probably go and protest, plus I could get all the inside political scoop from my uncle.
198 oops
licks her paws. LOL!
and feel off the wall. Oh no!
200 Billiejo
I’m in No. CA too
#202 goandersen
I think you have to work really hard to be that hated.
#168 Taffy Rodham, CNN…did you hear Anderson Cooper talking about *61s potential flip-flop on Iraq tonight? He was actually reporting the news in an impartial way. I was socked! I was even more shocked when he said he thought his was the only news show that was reporting it. Maybe he is ready to become a PUMA???
Goodnight PA4HILL08
203 Night PA
Have fun!
#179 antifish
“Welcome to the jungle”
#194 BillieJo
Given Senator Clinton’s brilliance, if she went any slower, she’d be going backwards.
transaction completed for Denver Bus funding…how excited, determined and proud all of you going to Denver must feel. All of us joining you in spirit will be roaring encouragement.
I need to catch up on growl work, but will go a tad quicker knowing that a and g are back…was feeling hollow
hi everyone hi Billiejo welcome and antifish welcome back so good to see our wonderful family
207 matt
not the BO. It comes natural to him and the long armed cohort
#208 BillieJo
It’s about time. I can’t stand Anderson Cooper but maybe he’ll get his act together along with the rest of em! Here’s hoping!
214 sandipuma
hi there, you feeling good tonite?
#205 goandersen
humpty is now the breakfast special at denny’s… catch him on the flip side
Antifish are you going to pride this weekend?
go Rodham andersen, where in N. Cal are you? I am in Walnut Creek, work in Berkeley
This is what I posted on the Denver article:
Re: Article Discussion: Will Invesco host convention speech?
by antifish 11:40 pm
I must say I was not at all surprised by this article. It would seem that Mr. Obama’s delusions of grandeur know no bounds. He feels a personal need to fill a stadium with adoring fans, not out of a particular affinity for them or their problems, but from a need to be affirmed by the worship they will undoubtedly unleash upon him. Like many in history who have sought and gained power through the hypnotism of large numbers of people, Obama thrives in this element. He must be the center of attention. He must upstage the entire Democratic Convention with this one great spectacle of Obama love to be broadcast all over America! For after all, it isn’t about the party, it isn’t about the people, it’s all about Obama.antifish
Antifish
Yes, I’m mayor0102. Had to change the user name for security here locally. Some Demos are really up in arms at me and there aren’t too many PUMAs in my neck of the woods. Been getting really nasty letters to the editor from them. In reply, I send them a PUMA flier and say something really nice about them because I know them all. Hows that for wind out of their sails????
To All PUMAs: Bo’s gonna be in Montana (Butte, I think). He’s trying to get all those ranchers to vote for him although he is having a picnic with a bunch of college folks after the parade. The news article said that he wasn’t going to be in the parade because of security (which is probably smart), but he would watch it with his family. I hope he has a good time (seriously) especially since he’s making some really good gaffs. He needs a day off.
I plan on going if i can get myself better here. My son said he would send me $100 towards it even though he really dosn’t want me to go. But Mother is right and this i want to do
#111 ALOHAPUMA
MONEY TRAIL – WHY NOT DO THAT AND GO A STEP BETTER? WHY NOT PUBLISH THE OBAMA CORPORATE DONORS AND THEIR CONTACT INFO ALL OVER THE NET? EVERY JUSTSAYNO COALITION WEBSITE, EVERY BLOG, EVERY CHAT ROOM, WHAT COMPANY WOULD WANT THIS INFORMATION SPREAD THIS WAY? EMPOWER PEOPLE TO SEND MASS EMAILS LIKE WE DID TONIGHT.
212 DancesWithPumas
Second that. She can do a hell of a lot more as a senator than a VP under the beaniebobo
He is never going to get in our White House. Never!
#219 queen,
Yes. I’ll probably go Saturday and may go back on Sunday to watch the parade.
billiejo i can’t afford cable. so i only get replays they put online.. anti and andersen you even had murphy ordering you back SEVERAL times!!!
ok sherry time’s up. you can come back now. all friendly PUMAs waiting…waiting….waiting….
Antifish & Goanderson
Please go downstairs and read Webfoots letter. It is excellent. It was in the 400s. Give her a big meow for the work she put in on it. Please!!!
Hey, Antifish, GoAndersen and Sandipuma…It’s great to see all of YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please remember, we all in this together and WOW what a long way we have come in just a short time…You guys/girls are great… I may not post everyday but, I am doing my part on this end and I do read every post and I am so proud to be a part of this wondeful group of great people…. HAPPY 4TH OF JULY EVERYONE!!!!!BOOM …HUGS AND PURRS…
#188 rlp33
I hate to be a pessimist but I think BO would REALLY have to screw up (And he’s well on his way there I just hope it happens in time) for them to be ABLE to. It’s very possible that many want to stay or switch to Clinton but are fearful for their political positions or are being strong armed by the DNC. But then again, stranger things have happened! Here’s to hoping!
night everyone, take care of yourself and then each other
antifish, goanderson, and sandipuma all back
So, I was thinking, if we managed over 12,000 emails in one hour with the press release, think what we could do with a concerted “lobby the superdelegates” effort to do a mass emailing.
Denver is sounding better and better. Not only do we get to protest the election, but we get to meet our PUMA PAC family.
Yes according to Fox a lot of Democrats angry with him right now
Gosh ladies!!!!
I haven’t read the messages for only 12 hours and you are almost boarding the bus to Denver…
I would love to go too but I am broke. I have to paid all my expenses when campaigning for Hillary in Vegas and also in Texas.
But if there is any way I can also catch the bus, PLEASE, PLEASE let me know.
I am in California
Thank You
DancesWithPumas
Given Senator Clinton’s brilliance, if she went any slower, she’d be going backwards.
That would be funny if it weren’t true. God, I feel like she is in limbo right now and so am I. I get so excited to see her on tv, and so sad when she is gone. I have never felt this way about a candidate, except for the Kennedy brothers before they were shot.
Ugh, on to happier thoughts.
221 antifish
I can’t wait until they turn all the lights out in the place after beaniebobo loses and all those folks will have to go home and eat day old cake.
Did anyone know that Anderson Cooper was a close family friend of the Reagans? He’s Republican through and through. His mother is someone famous, but doggone if I can remember who.
“He flip-flops more than John Kerry”
George W flip-flopped way more than Kerry. With Kerry it was basically his stand on Iraq and I really couldn;t fault him for that given the mood of the country after 9/11, and the information the Senate was given.
With Obama, flip-flopping and being vague (read: slippery) is a lifestyle.
(((((((((sandi Rodham puma))))))))). Good to be back!
DancesWithPumas
oh, the polls and his money is sliding?? That sounds like good news. What are the polls saying? I though he was going up not down.
Super delegates wake up!!
I really hope the DNC gives Hillary a rollcall vote, and if the don not, I hope her delegates walk out and join the PUMAS in protest. Then the Dems will really go down in flames.
hi pa dem. I can’t leave my family and i tried to get in for about 10 times and i called my server and i was blocked by a third party. The tech even came in under my name to find out. When he saw he could get in he knew i was blocked by third party. HMMMM think it was a HOUND?????
231 TrishfromCanada
Where you going?
Letter sent to Howard Dean and copied to others on the list provided:
Dear Mr. Dean,
I received this email in reply to an email I sent as a PUMA member. The email is taken
from an Obama supporter’s smear site. I’m sure there are many sites, but here is one
http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/pumas_are_swiftboats_darragh_murphy/
In sending such an email, Ms. Brazile has proven she is unfit for any position in the
DNC. And more importantly, should not be in any position to have any say in the
governing of our country.
I am very upset with the DNC that they did not count each vote as it was cast and as the
Constitution of the United States of America states (in Supreme Court decisions)
guarantee. This is one of our fundamental laws, and it was violated. Does the DNC not
see the gravity of the situation? Does the DNC not want party unity? It certainly does
not seem that way, especially with Ms. Brazile emailing untrue smears and personal
information about those who do not support the selected candidate.
I respectfully ask for Donna Brazil’s dismissal from the DNC.
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(email received from Donna Brazil followed, but since you all probably received it, no need to repeat it here)
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LOL i bet they didn’t like my comments
233 Sandi
Remember the teflon on the pans. If you use them and scratch them too much, they’re not effective anymore. Will Bo is getting scratched big time by his gaffs. The teflon is starting to wear out.
was checking…invesco owned by city. but secret service been doing security at pepsi center for months now. Installed cameras and all kinds of goodies I’m sure we know nothing about. BB (big britches) better think twice about security in his open air arena with over 76,000 seats. bet SS is having a fit with him!
(pretty soon will truly be empty suit cause pants fall off LOL )
Good night, Trish!
#229 (((((((((caspercat)))))))))! Thanks!
Sorry, I was so excited and typing so fast I have some typo’s..Please forgive me…..It’s late…see I do read every post no matter what time it is….I will be handing out flyer’s this weekend…..Again, Murphy a warm heartfelt Thank You for Everything and to ALL OF YOU TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!
247 Taffy
I wonder what this is all really about? I wish I could see the blueprints to both places.
Watching Hannity and Colmes. Colmes is saying some of Obama’s supporters are having buyers remorse-Fisa, public financing, Iraq, etc………….i’m loving it…heh,heh,heh. Did everyone already sign this petition?
http://IOwnMyVote.com/
Ely send an email to murphy. people are donating so others can go. that is the idea behind the buses.
244 ipotter good letter. Did everyone send these letters today?? I was gone most the day and am behind
#227 Taffy- I’m still lurking.
#236 goandersen,
Let them eat possum turds!
Are the PUMAs going to get caged in the chain-link or chicken wire while in Denver? Did that rumor fly?
halligan,
I’m going to read webfoot’s letter now. BRB
I don’t think they will change the location. The owners of the PepsiArena will probably sue for breach of contract or something
I went to a Meetup here in Vegas last saturday. I hope we have enough for a bus too. We should
not supposed to lurk sherry. supposed to rejoin anti and andersen. they need your help
234Ely
I live in No. CA. I am thinking of taking the train.
#234 ElyLos Angeles
There will be a bus(es) leaving from Los Angeles and SFO. There’s a bus fundraising drive in the Action Center. I think they’re trying to get 500 buses.
258 Antifish
Thanks.
228 halligan
I will read it tomorrow. It is late. I am going to bed soon.
thanks
Your right matt good thinking. Plus i hope we are not fenced in
Gloria Vanderbilt is Anderson Cooper’s mom. Big bucks. Must be a republican, but at least he was fair tonight. I won’t hold my breath on him being fair in the future.
Whatever they’re planning with the fence strategy, I think theyre gonna need a bigger fence.
#261 Taffy-I don’t see any of the agressive pumas on right now so maybe I will be brave for a few minutes. I’m drinking my glass of wine so I am feeling a little braver. I have a picture that my husband gave me of the fencing for Denver. I will try to post the link so you can see it.
andersen google invesco field. it shows some pretty good pictures of the place. just what bb would like. originally he was going to use soldier field in chicago. wonder why??? then he started talking of shutting down convention 1 day early. city nixed that. then this brilliant strategy of using invesco.
goanderson #262
I love the train over Donner’s Pass and through the desert. Then its over the Rocky Mtn. There’s a valley just north of Glenwood Springs where they train goes right along the side of cliffs. One can see all kinds a bald eagles everywhere. The trip just gets more beautiful by the mile. Wish I could go, but I may be back to work by then. Please do go and join your PUMA friends. They need you.
208 BillieJo CNN…did you hear Anderson Cooper talking about *61s potential flip-flop on Iraq tonight? He was actually reporting the news in an impartial way. I was socked! I was even more shocked when he said he thought his was the only news show that was reporting it.
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I’m thinking about writing an email to CNN (Kind of a play on what piepiepie did) “I’ve heard that you’ve been reporting only positive news about Barack Obama and leaving anything negative out. Is this true?” As it stands, they don’t respond to my other emails.
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BillieJo and InuHanyou1701~ two thoughts regarding CNN’s reporting and/or public relations. BillieJo, Anderson Cooper’s history of negativity regarding Barack is limited, therefore I copied a part of InuHanyou’s opt. I have written to AC many times and have refocused my energy after to more than thrice snarky auto-replies.
234Ely like Dances with Rodham said, if there is enough $ they will have a bus in SF too. First I guess they will try for LA. I hope to go too. I have vacation days saved, am broke so hope if I can go that many PUMA can share a room to cut down the cost.
Taffy #27o
Bo needs Colorado. It’s a swing state. That’s why. Invesco field has better access and parking as well.
texassherry
I got your back, you say whatever you like!
it’s gonna be a mess they talking parade routes and then a fenced area in parking lot for the demonstrators. but all the bigwigs will be inside and only see on news IF they turn it on
Here is a link to the free speech zone in Denver for those that want to see it.
http://en.wikipedia.org:80/wiki/Free_speech_zone
I am tentatively planning on going to Denver…not sure of the means yet. Taking a PUMA bus makes the most sense to me, but, I just don’t know.
268 DancesWithPumas
I’m bringing my bolt cutters!
179 goanderson
hahaha
269 Texassherry
I got your back too.
279 and 280
goodness, how much bail money do i need to set aside? lol
I wonder how many will be there???whats your guess??
277 texassherry
Like they will keep me inside of that. LOL!
Woooooooo Whoooooooooooooooo!!
Rumble in Denver!!
city having a hard time raising money for convention as it is. having to cancel events and businesses worried. city won’t let dems shut down a day early and bb thinking he get big boost in polls if he gives speech fast before repub convention but he wanted chicago
halligan,
Webfoot’s letter was great. I think it should be a daily growl. We do not have to be former federal employees to protest the violation of Senate ethics rules. What do you think?
I will be one in jail lol. I will have the job of pinching the police butts
goanderson #279
But its just chicken wire?
282 queen81
bring a credit card
272 Jeremy, I used to always listen to Oberman, even Tivo’ed him while at work until the elections. I stopped listening to MSNBC months ago, and CNN was a little better. Today, as I said was the first decent report on CNN that I have heard in months. He had three guests discussing the potential flip flop and the supporter of *61 started screaming in support, I mean…really screaming and Anderson just made a face like this guy has really lost it. It was pretty cool to see a *61 going nuts on what he thought was bad press towards *61. I was really enjoying it for once.
DENVER IS THE SUNDANCE……when the supportors MAKES their show….in TRUTH ,HONOR & RESPECT….
Hillary will break Free with the UNITY of the True Party
…she was just a few state delagates……the SUPER…
can’t be that DUMB…..when they see the REAL GATHERING of the PEOPLE……their hand will be FORCED
….they will lose seats in congress along with the President
seat….
Queen81 and Goanderson-Thank you.
Hey PUMAs. We’re getting into a little storm here (I love it I love it I LOVE IT! Thunder and lightning! How I’ve missed it…) so I’m going to power my equipment down for a little bit. I will hopefully be back but I don’t want to fry my computers if a stray lightning bolt decides to make a home in my chimney (I’ve seen that happen before. =/ Scary. Seriously). I’ll see you later PUMAs! If not tonight then tomorrow!
288 halligan
looked like chain link to me
anti i keep thinking of the night we were making up funny cartoons. there was a poem you were going to write. senior moment. i can’t remember what it was but you were going to do something along the lines of Poe. do you remember? I don’t know if I can even find the thread again!
282 queen81
Just smuggle in a sawblade, baked in a pie… oh wait, make that chocolate mousse or cheese cake, if you don’t mind…
we’ll take care of the rest.
293 Inu
don’t want your hair to kink out.
I am worried about Colorado. The media and polls say its really close there. I hope McCain wins there, but it will probably be a squeaker.
nite inu keep safe
#44
Barack Obama’s campaign is considering having him accept the Democratic presidential nomination at Invesco Field at Mile High instead of the Pepsi Center, the chosen site for the Democratic National Convention.
Any true Denverite will tell you that “Invesco Field” is a bogus name. The real name is: Mile High 2. It fits that Obama would pick a bogus named field to make an announcement.
well as far as BO goes i’m like President Clinton …he can kiss my A$$
just heard on news he gonna be here monday. hope i get invited!
Do we have pumas in Denver that can scope it out for us. That way we can have game plans
nite inu sleep well
300 sandipuma
he can kiss my “lily white” one!
Antifish #286
I’ll contact Webfoot. I think she sent it to Murphy, but I’ll check. Thanks for looking. Great idea about daily growl material. We’d have to research who can protest the violation. Webfoot probably can answer that question.
ohhh good idea goanderson
Taffy…where?
Nite Inu!
goanderson
I think we had William in Denver if I recall. I remember him a few nights back. Maryland PUMA, Murphy, or MamaPuma could probably get in touch with him.
anti and andersen…somebody (was it you sandi) talked about “dropping” flyers at parades this weekend along with puma cards and puma money
hehehehe that would make a great cartoon but instead we would have a oicture of BO kissing a PUMAS BUTT
Yes, I heard that they might fence in the protestors too, really creepy like rabid PUMAs.
Bolt cutters / check
Bail money / check
Tape recorder with the growl of a PUMA / check
Air horn / check
Blankie and pillow / check
I’m almost ready!
Oh i am sooo bad
dances in denver not many details yet just announced
310 Taffy
wasn’t me
BillieJo
are you trying to max out all my credit cards?
Taffy,
Oh, okay. Thanks
313 sandipuma
feeling froggy tonight, huh? LOL!
billie forgot bones for the hounds
where is sherry? she usually joins the fun
312 Billiejo
Flask/check
Right, greasy bones for the hound dogs.
Goodnight everyone….Happy 4th
See everyone tomorrow night
Matt #298
I’m going over to Colorado in a week, mostly rural area. Denver, Boulder, Fort Collins are all professional populationa and heavily college age towns. The rural areas and smaller towns are heavily Republican. Although in the last five years, Colorado put in a Democratic Senator and a Democratic Governor. With the convention being in Denver, I imagine that’s going to help bring in some more independents. So, Colorado may go blue this year.
San Diego’s Pride is the weekend of Jul 17.
The GLBT Center is a block away, and the route is 1/2 block from where I live. I’ll be passing out flyers.
OK. Gotta go darlins.
Have a good night. See ya tomorrow
things look good for McCain on the aol election. The states are all red…. : )
If not Hillary…McCain!
Maybe some granola bars so I won’t starve in the clink. (Jail- for you young ones
)
anti…see #295 help with my senior moment or i’m gonna be up most of night trying to get through past threads
hey, are these my andersens, caspercats, normitas from HC.com. I have finally found my people!!!!
you better be here andersen! PUMAs stick together
Good night go Rodham anderson, I am going to leave too. Good night PUMAs, happy 4th of July and Birthday.
Tomorrow morning my freind is going to set out for me and try to sell. Good spot for the holiday right accross from the family park
murphy be ecstatic bout you, anti, and sherry!
Dances with Pumas-
Great you are going to pride..talking points for opposition- BO has done nothing for the GLBT community. he refused interviews to gay press and only began to give them after hillary had done a bunch. McCain is not anti gay…he opposed the federal amendment to ban gay marriage.
good night Billie Jo
Tomorrow is the 4th.
$20.08 to pay down the debt, or whatever you can afford.
Great being here tonight, but my house feels like it might be invaded by whistling petes and bombs. I need to go check. Who knows – it might be anti-PUMA night here. Unfortunately everyone knows where my house is. I fully expect a signing or papering or worse (eggs or car painting).
334 Queen81
Thanks.
330 Taffy
no worries. I will. I just need sleep now.
goanderson and i will be the first 2 PUMAS in jail lol.
Happy 4th everyone. I’m going to be handing out PUMA business cards along the parade route tomorrow and leaving them on all the picnic tables at the festival. See yah all on Saturday.
bb is reaching out to all groups now. messing up big time cause he saying opposite things to groups to try and win votes
340 sandipuma
That’s right, we get the beds! LOL!
seriously puting all joking aside i heard Al Sharpton will be there and he will have a lot of his guys there. They are ruff
341 halligan
Thanks for doing that. See ya . Sweet Dreams
gee halligan…you must live in rich area. we can’t afford eggs here
Fewer and fewer Obama bumperstickers in my neighborhood. The HUGE campaigner for Obama, removed the O sign from his window. All good signs (no pun).
#69 emca on 07.03.08 at 11:41 pm
wow Murphy, you’re getting a lot of posts, even after culling the trash. I can’t seem to post fast enough to comment!
Anyway my wish list for the future:
1. reform of the democratic primaries. One person=one vote. …
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emca, indeed! Hopefully in the future we’ll at least have ways to stay on topic via direct responses in threads!
You’ll be happy to note that there is already a voting reform bill to support, authored by Florida’s Bill Nelson!
344 sandipuma
Bring it Sharpton!
lol goanderson we will also ask for a special puma cell
goanderson-are you the Anderson doing the meetup w/mae? I am also in No. Ca and hoping to attend their meetup this weekend.
you’re right sandi and recreate 68 is bringing in more groups and heard black panthers are coming. gonna be just like 4th of july but in aug
Yep and he says he will stop anyone who gets in Obamas way. Well maybe next time he will stay in jail longer
347 DancesWithPumas
I wonder if they are gone because they are afraid of retaliation?? Hmmmm
goandersen- are you still here?
352 Taffy
I am not going to be scared away by some dink A$$ thugs. Let em huff an puff.
soooo glad you’re back antifish and goandersen. the family is complete now.
goandersen- did antifish relay my message to you last night? (chuckle)
#329 Taffy,
Nevermore, quoth the Puma! I haven’t done it yet, but it’s on my list of Puma dos!
355 Sheila7
yes. I am trying to go to bed
Well they better leave us alone because the PUMAS can GROWL LOUDLY and the police will be on our sides
Good night ya’ll. Glad you are all back. I will finish my glass of wine then I will hit the sack too. Happy 4th of July.
347 goanderson
I live in Hillcrest, greatest concentration of gay men in the county. Non-violent neighborhood. But that could be true.
Thank You Taffy I will do that.
I am willing to donate some money to PUMA (not much) , because I just sent 25.00 to Hillary to pay her debt.
357 Sheila7
I don’t think so. What was it?
Just bring plenty of water get dehydrated fast here truthfully!
good night texassherry and sweet puma dreams
362 DancesWithPumas
Hillcrest……State?
I told her to tell you that I was going to have MO “reach” out to you to bring you back.
get some rest, see you tomorrow!
happy 4th sherry wb
goanderson, oh, sorry. San Diego, CA
Hello! goandersen, is that you “andersen”. Remember me? I have been looking for you as we have gotten closer and closer to Denver!!
368 sheila
Oh yeah, she did. Now that was scary. I almost came back right then and there!! LOL!
I just wasn’t ready.
Big hugs)))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((
Just remind them how much Hillary has done for the community–helping to table the Federal Marriage Amendment for one. Ok, that’s a huge one.
In contrast, there were spots in magazines supposed to contain interviews with him that were published blank.
McCain even went on Ellen. Not many republicans would do something like that.
True i will bring a bag of drops to suck on to keep my sugar level up and tons of fluids
anti…you remember????? what was it????? driving me nuts (or more so)
I want Murphy to go on Ellens show. She would be great
370 DancesWithPumas
I love San Diego. I wish I was living there instead of up here. I always have liked So. CA better.
374 Taffy
Hell, I wanna go on Ellen!!
Sandipuma: I totally agree. But we’ll only do a write-in for that *if* Murphy wants to go on Ellen. It is quite easy to write in story suggestions on her website.
goanderson
I lived in Berkeley for 23 yeard before relocating (work related). I’d rather be in Northern CA with my tribe.
366
Night texassherry
that’s omething we need to bring up with murphy. people need water!!!! going to be a hard commodity to come by. need to bring water bottles as a necessity! and sunscreen!
Larry King, David Letterman and The View ohhh Murphy would be great on those
How long does “awaiting moderation” take? Want to know if I have found my HC.com buddies before I go to bed.
and chapstick
Ok.
Good night!
Visualize HRC taking the Oath of Office and send in those contributions ( ones who still can) Oy Vey! the economy.
nite texassherry!
Ok pa dem thats good. I never write my suggestions in
Nite go Rodham andersen! Love you, girl!
Night anti rodham fish
Whew!
((((((((((nite andersen wb)))))))))))
good night goandersen and big hugs to you too.
I want to go on Ellen too!
night mary elllen
Love ya too!
anti….you gonna tell me or make me stay up all nite and be GROWLLY in morning??????
what i like about the Larry King show is that they show the same one about 6 times in one week
#391 LOL anti
night anderson your a great puma hugs
OK going to bed now. Will check back in the morning to see if I have found my people!!!
anti gonna make me stay up. now i be growlly
#374 Taffy,
I posted earlier, guess you missed it. It was to be a parody of Edgar Allan Poe’s “The Raven”. I haven’t gotten around to it yet, but it’s on my list.
ok you can go on too and you can wear a PUMA costume and GROWLLLLL at the cameras and scare the HOUNDS
Last one
I pledge Allegiance to the flag,
of the United States of America,
and to the Republic,
for which it stands,
one nation under God,
indivisible,
with Liberty, and Justice for all
Happy 4th everyone! Be safe.
GoAnderson, Dances with Pumas,
Then I will try to donate some monney, because raight now I can even afford the train.
Yes Billie Jo, thats something else we have to think about (hotel).
But hopefully we can be there.
I had a very good time in Vegas an Texas.
So I don’t want to miss Denver
I still have hopes that something happen and Hillary be nominated.
Thats one of the reasons I haven’t change party.
Night Sandipuma
Night Taffy
Night everyone!!
I am still in awe of the incredibly strong & articulate post Murphy put up today (yesterday if you’re on the East Coast), the one that began: Today is our one month birthday. It was Tuesday evening, June 3, when I pressed “publish” on the first blog post and Puma PAC was born.
I’m really proud to be a member of this group!
It would be good if we could help Hillary snag some speaking engagements (Wellesley College? Yale? Children’s Defense Fund? ) prior to August. People & the media need to keep seeing her powerful presence prior to the Convention.
Anyone have contacts w/any of the above?
#451 – THANKS for the idea! I now looked up my area for major HRC donators & I’m so excited to be following in your footsteps!! I hope PUMA is ready for all the new members we are bringing into the flock!!!!!!!
p.s. Q – What’s the best email to use for Pelosi?
but i can’t remember the subject anti. we had something specific in mind. it was the night we were doing the political cartoons…i remember that
you guys and gals are all so smart….i’m allways so impressed
hizeLL YEA!!!!! i sent my 10 bucks!
GO PUMAs!
“Fall in Line”, my a#@
i can fly out there for dirt cheap, so i’ll let another puma take my seat!
God BLESS America!
SAFE and HAPPY FOURTH PUMAs !!!!
well tomorrows another day and i have to be up early. Will see you all later (((((((PUMAS))))))
hill i have to try and find. someone found a different one to use. also for nbc. and for cnn need to make it news@cnn.com
#537 – Halligan – Good letter to Mrs. Edwards, I have a little prediction, Hillary may end up asking Edwards to be VP.
nite sandi…tc ((((((()))))))))))
“If if read 600 + posts, I wouldn’t be able to spend time with you guys”
Well, I just spent 4 hours going through 900+. Silly me! And I would really LOVE for some help. If people want to spend time talking about potato salad and waste post after post begging for people who are obviously gonna come back because that is the way it is and always has been with people who storm off on every last online community on the entire world wide web, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE….give them a ENTIRE FORUM to do so, and let those of us who want to discuss when and where you can flyer, thank those donating money for buses, inform people that there is ALREADY a voting reform bill out there, and learn from those who have been researching the legalities of the land deal, and the identity hijacking on YOUTUBE/GOOGLE/VIACOM, do so BY TOPIC, in threaded discussions where we can respond below each comment, so the voting reform comments stay with the voting reform comments, etc.
Mrs. Fred has been uttering battle cries of ACTION, but without organization, we’ll be losing traction. And I *love* popping into people’s personal websites, and reading up on their recipes, their pets, their life woes and wows…it’s the jumble here that’s overwhelming!!!
In the thread below I thanked the people donating all the money for the buses…but I want to know…is it lack of funds keeping us locked in this inefficient format??
Or is it a decision thing, because no one format is ideal?
Taffy!
Did you see my posts? #358 & #398.
SO WHAT’S NEXT?
I believe our next steps need to include making contact with some strong 3rd party spokespeople. (Recall how effective James Carville was in this role).
TODAY is our nation’s birthday! In contemplating the entertainment / celebrity world, recall Hillary’s last Birthday Party had many celebrities.
Here’s an article about her party:
Hillary Clinton’s 60th birthday party rocked.
Democrats danced in the aisles of the Beacon Theatre Thursday night as Elvis Costello and the Wallflowers sang “Happy Birthday, Mrs. President” and asked the musical question, “(What’s So Funny) About Peace, Love and Understanding?”
“I’ve seen her now for more than half of her life,” Bill Clinton told supporters, who raised more than $1.5 million with the event. “She was just 23 when we met. Poor child didn’t know any better not to talk to me.”
“Two weeks ago today, we celebrated our 32nd anniversary,” he said. “I would campaign for her, if she asked, even if we weren’t married. I strongly feel we don’t have any margin for error.”
The former President recalled that, the night before, Costello had performed with Bob Dylan, dad of Wallflowers’ frontman, Jakob Dylan. “To see [Jakob and Elvis] here tonight seems to me like a metaphor for why Hillary – in her 60th year, and still, I think, very beautiful – has waged this campaign not so much for the old rockers, but for the new ones. Not so much for today, but for tomorrow.”
The former First Lady picked up the Dylan riff, recalling how daughter Chelsea used to play the Wallflowers in the White House.
A roar of applause greeted the Clintons as they entered the venerable theater to the strains of The Who’s “I’m Free.”
We asked the former President, who was resting his hand on the shoulder of his wife’s black pantsuit, if he’d given her his present.
“No, I haven’t,” he said with a sly smile. “Everybody wants to know what I’m giving her. But I haven’t told anybody.”
Bill did reveal later “what I’m going to do if she’s elected President.” Looking over at emcee Billy Crystal, he said, “I’m going to do a remake of ‘Grumpy Old Men’ with him.”
Crystal, meanwhile, said “the Clinton 60th birthday had become an annual ritual” for him – having hosted one of the “12″ birthday parties Bill had last year. “He should be 72,” he said.
How about today, July 4, we do a little brainstorming about politicians (Carville) or entertainers (Jakob Dylan? Elvis Costello? Billy Crystal???) we might be able to contact via PUMA channels.
IMHO, her campaign staff didn’t do her any favors by having so few 3rd party people talking about her – Big Mistake.
Hillary NEEDS those 3rd-party spokespeople now, more than ever.
Anybody got contact info for the above, and/or have additional celebrity ideas??
Zee: Murphy addressed the format issue on the No We Won’t radio show tonight. Email her about it.
I like the forums idea as well.
The cartoon i want to slap obama in the face with is where the Obama family are standing outside the WhiteHouse gates and their eyes are bulging and angry faces holding their luggage and a big SOLD sign
and at the top of the WhiteHouse it says PUMA WHITEHOUSE and pumas walking all around the grounds and Obama and Michell are saying NOOOO But it’s supposed to be ours………..
zee…if you go to mccain’s site they have a reply to post. the problem with that is you have to keep scrolling back to see if someone responds as well as keeping up with new posts. other blogs have separate threads but that separates the people. not all in one place. this political hot potato is so different..not sure there is a good way for it.
#413 hilltheone,
I really enjoyed reading that. Wish I’d been invited.
Obamas Camp did one of Hillary saying where did you come from it was suppose to me President. Well lets put the shoe on the other foot
#411 ZEE
It could be any number of things. You might want to ask Murphy.
The organizational thing would work well, although I think this setup helped us get to know each other, it allowed us to get a sense of who each of us is, kwim?
#347 DancesWithPumas on 07.04.08 at 1:20 am
Fewer and fewer Obama bumperstickers in my neighborhood. The HUGE campaigner for Obama, removed the O sign from his window. All good signs (no pun).
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Excellent signs of discontent indeed, Dances with Puma.
The question is, how many of the antiwar diehards will remain with Obama during his pandering for the red states. After all, his latest flipflop “explanation” was timed for a big national holiday when most are with friends and family and not tuned in to the news.
Regarding your idea on vests in lieu of handheld signs, I replied at the end of yesterday’s thread…I’ve had vinyl sashes printed up before, and it’s not that expensive a project….they’re super easy to wear, and fun.
Taffy,
Did you get my messages?
Ok and i better go to bed this time lol. I talk to much
Good night Sandi. I think I’m going to bed too. See everyone tomorrow!
I will see if i can get someone to help me draw it and i will send it to Murphy
Happy 4th of July!
Donated 3x $20.08 to HRC Presidential Campaign.
Posted Boards for 4th of July
Sent out email for 4th of July -Declare Independence (as follows):
Independence Day – Free Hillary!
Many dispute the anti-Democratic suspension of the Hillary Clinton Campaign. It is an insult to the American Public that the Democratic Party believes they can use their Multi Level Marketing (MLM) techniques to sell Americans a corrupt, unqualified candidate that will allow them to exploit America for whatever the Bush Administration has not already plundered.
Find Out: Coalition online at JustSayNoDeal.com
Get Involved: Democrats – Take back your Party!
Take Action: Speak Up (Post, Blog, Talk to you neighbors)
Take Action: Contact your Democratic Representatives and let them know you want to see the Democratic Superdelegates in your state elect Hillary Clinton as the Democratic Nominee at the DNC Convention August 26, 2008.
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
Take Action: Donate $20.08 (or as you can) to the Hillary Clinton Campaign for President 2008 to celebrate the Fourth of July – Independence Day.
https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=3200
AND MOST OF ALL: Be American!
nighters and hugsssss all
#417 antifish
If I had known…
I woudl have given you my invite.
sandi..there’s a link under action for cartoon ideas
#420 ZEE
I think Fred suggested small signs attached to our shirts with pins, like the numbered panels marathon runners wear. Seemed like a good inexpensive alternative.
sandi I think that cartoon has already been done. It’s posted at Will Bower’s Facebook group. I don;t have the link. Sorry.
I been hearing that a written for Hillary Clinton would count as a vote for Obama.
Is there any truth to this?
428 Taffy
Can anyone try and execute those cartoon ideas?
NYModerate
depends on the individual state regulations.
Gee we need more west coast posters – is anyone still out there, gee it aint even 11 p.m.
Oh well I will go & listen to the new Coldplay CD* (recommended!), their line “waiting till the shine wears off” reminds me of how we all feel about Obama.
I hope by tomorrow some fellow PUMA’s will have posted replies about getting Hillary the 3rd Party spokespersons she needs!!
antifish thanks for replying.
11:02 here
all i know is murphy said to submit ideas.
NY depends on state you live in. some will count for hillary, some for person on party ticket, some not count at all. have to check with your secretary of state. they handle the elections.
Doesn’t matter, I guess. I’m still working on an “under the bus” cartoon but I can’t seem to keep up with Obama’s fast and furious pace.
i’m still up. it’s 1:00 here. i’d like to send my donation of 20.08 now because i don’t plan on getting up at a reasonable hour. is there a consensus on where to donate at? does it matter? hrc site, heidi li?
Off to bed. Have a good night. Seeya soon.
Someone get the lights.
#420 Zee- There will always be diehard Obama followers that won’t change their vote no matter what he does because they are too stubborn to ever admit they are wrong. We need to focus on the voters that want to know the facts and want to vote for someone who will be good for the country. I am sure there are a lot of voters that are still undecided or that are only voting for Obama because they don’t think they have any other choices. We need to convince them that there is still a chance for Hillary until after the convention and then we will need to convince them that they have other choices if that doesn’t happen.
Fred has been doing a lot of work and from what I have read is donating the cost of getting some banners or signs printed. It would probaly be best to get with her to get something like this done so that we can spend the money availabale wisely.
419, Dances with Puma,
I suspect it’s because each format has its advantages and disadvantages.
There are some formats which allow us to automatically include a link to a home page or web page…that also is useful for getting to know who’s posting. In a convenient and voluntary fashion.
And some formats which have entire forums (pages? not sure of the terminology) dedicated to welcoming and orienting newcomers, etc. I guess the ones I’m thinking of have been used on writing sites, where there are separate places for workshopping, critique, politics, social, etc.
My main point is that we should have a choice. There are a LOT of people who do not have the time to socialize when it takes quite a long time to simply catch up on the actions and organizing we have to do.
Another thing is that people get bent out of shape when either the expected socializing doesn’t take place or is taking place exclusively with a clique. Leading to endless back and forths others have to pick their way through.
It’s actually antisocial…and I saw one person say how are we going to grow if we don’t all greet each other?
I couldn’t even tell if the person was joking or not, because it HAD to be a joke.
We sent 12,000 emails. If we had 12,000 people in here all getting bent out of shape because so and so didn’t greet them, then 6,000 of those threatening to storm off, then the other 6,000 begging them to stay…where would it end? With 12,000 new lurkers for the online soap opera adding their 24,000 cents?
Even if we had the threads where we could respond directly to each comment…people could hug and whine and digress to their hearts content and those of us who want to skip the melodrama could do so all in one swoop and carry on actual conversations on the relevant topics we come here for.
I know it’s only been one month, but the format testing the other day gave me such hope!!!
cool myspace layouts
Hope this works!
One Love
didnt work, try try again
texassherry
you are right. i have talked to so many people that say ” oh i thought she dropped out so i guess i’ll vote for him” ugh. when i explain that he is the presumptive nominee they are surprised and ask how can we get Hillary as the nominee then?
I have a sleeping disorder and can’t take sleeping pills and that is why I drink a glass of cheap wine before going to bed to help me sleep. Hope my last post made sense. Keep up the good work Zee. I’m really going to bed this time. Night Ya,ll
#438
hello? can anyone answer me? does it matter where I donate?
ok i’ll check back in the morning/afternoon whenever I get up.
good night all.
O.K. I came back.
See? The east-coaster’s sleep, we sit & brainstorm, and vice-versa. “All is in divine order.”
I had a sudden brainstorm about 3rd party spokespeople. PUMA is getting its name known and recognized. Now PUMA needs to do some outreach to Joseph Wilson (& Valerie Plame) so that the Wilson’s can finish what they started, campaigning for Hillary.
It would be a good thing indeed if by our outreach we can get the Wilson’s to issue a statement on why they still think Hillary is the best candidate.
Here’s some info on him, http://www.greatertalent.com/JosephWilson
Does anyone have an email? When we find his email, we need to post it on the Action Center.
Alternately, perhaps when next Murphy is on prime-time somewhere, she can casually name-drop.
What do you think of that idea, Murphy?
p.s. #438: donate at hillaryclinton.com
texassherry….Mrs. Fred and I share the same outlook on action, but I am not at all comfortable with her impatience when it comes to product. The sashes are made out of vinyl police tape…what’s printed on those much be short and eye-catching. It calls for brainstorming.
It’s ok to be quick with the fliers….that was a great, instant idea. We could have designs or bulletin points each of us can print out on our own machines, and then hand out, or post in libraries or grocery stores, or coffee shops….most of which have community bulletin boards.
But the back and forth discussions are still necessary.
Other PUMAS have correctly pointed out it’s ILLEGAL to stuff mailboxes. I’ve done this work before for many companies and also for political candidates. Each town has its own ordinance. In some places you are not even allowed to put things in or on the DOOR, either!
If you live near a city or have a grocery store that lets you reserve a time for passing out literature, you can set up a table. It doesn’t have to be a “table” per se. An ironing board is perfect as it collapses to be carried and can be covered with a homemade banner made out of an old sheet.
But I thank you for your interest in this….I will say it’s something that is better done in pairs or teams. And yes…very necessary to reach those voters who are not online to let them know they’re not alone and it’s not over!!
hillstheone….er, I’m an eastcoaster who should be in bed…!
I like your idea about Joe Wilson. How disgraceful was it that the entire fauxgressive blogosphere completely threw him and Valerie under the bus after pretending to care so much about Valerie’s plight and after pretending to admire Joe’s principled stand.
But I do wonder what they are thinking now. They may be too disgusted and done with speaking….
#431 I have also heard that in some states if you write in a Democrat other than the nominee they give the vote to the nominee. We really need to check into that on a state by state basis. Since I live in Seattle and we vote by mail I plan to have an election night party. If McCain is clearly winning (and the networks will call the election before our polls even close) then I will write in Hillary (only if WA state won’t give the vote to BO) then drive to the post office. I will look into what WA state does. But we should make a PUMA list so everyone will be sure not to accidentally give BO a vote.
Zee- I agree with everything you are saying. I have never been an activist before and am new at this so don’t have all the answers you are looking for. I was lurking a long time before I had started posting and it seems that the people that have the most experience and are the best organized in these areas are posting during the day and not at night. You may have better luck during the day getting answers to your questions. Good Night and Sorry I can’t help you.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20080702/cm_uc_crbbox/op_236572;_ylt=As.A1lZzd6jXVTkoz_xYg04e6sgF
Who Dares Oppose the Obamas?
Wed Jul 2, 3:00 AM ET
I will be there! Straight from Chicago. Let’s load the buses up with these. I have two on my car right now!
http://www.cafepress.com/hellnobama.264220867
hillstheone…we should also work with friendly journalists, too, such as Paul Krugman and Gene Lyons.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/have_we_seen_the_end_of_twopar.html
But while Senator McCain has solid conservative credentials in practice and on paper, his willingness and ability to reach across the aisle have made some on the right suspicious of his true motives. His nomination steers the RNC toward a more centrist place than it’s been since Richard Nixon was the nominee.
Should Senator McCain capture the White House, his presidency and control of the party could leave social conservatives, who comprise about a third of the party, on the outside looking in. [....]
Dedicated Republicans have long been accused of being unwavering ideologues, willing to lose on principle rather than win on compromise. A John McCain presidency would radically shift that dynamic, if he follows \ the bipartisan method he used in the Senate.
If you want to comment on this article, here is the url for comments. It has 111 posts. It says some very silly things about HIllary and the Dems.
http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/54744.html#REPLY
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Hi PUMAS
I am sorry that I wasn’t here. Can somebody please fill me in on details?
I wanted to share this with you. They are asking for who might be a good 3rd party spokesperson for Hillary.
http://clintondems.com/2008/07/americas-and-hillarys-birthdays/#comment-8235
Splendid, here’s a shirt I found. We would look like a pink force in these!
http://www.cafepress.com/hellnobama.281649658
This is a very interesting article. I don’t know what to say.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/01/us/politics/01dems.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=1&adxnnlx=1215155104-jxJ/CIdXyqEm6OHpieqEmg
I sent the emails to the media and our politician friends. I also printed out the “mirror, mirror” postcards and have them ready to go out. I printed extra and thought they were so great that I might just send them to some undecided SD’s as well. They were too appropriate to just use for one growl! I appreciate all of you. Good night!
#460 gostrumcat
Wait, I have one more article for you to read.
http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB121495450490321133.html
#237Halligan: Spoiled brat Anderson Cooper’s mother is Gloria Vanderbilt…of the 19th century Robber Baron Vanderbilts…
#461 anonymous rodham puma, what makes it sting more is how he had the “audacity” to say that SHE would say anything to get the votes. He can’t be exposed as a fraud fast enough for me, and that’s why I like reading everyone’s thoughts and ideas and helping where I can. Thanks for the read and have a nice evening.
What are all you mischevious little Pumas doing up at this hour? What am I doing up? Went out with friends tonight and had fat, juicy New Orleans boiled crabs …gave them the Puma update actions of the day…I continue to delight in the energy of it all and the focus. We must defeat this egomaniac and his known and hidden handlers.
Amen, New Orleans Puma… and I’ll be dreaming of boiled crabs tonight. Get some rest now, if I know this crew there’ll be lots more fun tomorrow!
Ok, gostrumcat: I will do that..goodnight sweet Pumas all!
Just wanted everyone to know that Panther stamps are no longer available. I went to buy a book, but when price increase came they discontinued them. Then, after I bought postcard stamps, I lost my wallet, which has nothing in it but all my ID. I am hoping by monday I have it back, but am really bummed. I wish I could go to Denver, but if I can I will donate to help. Happy Birthday PUMAS and an anti-Obama America!
Witchy 1
Hey Zee:
Murphy and I have been discussing printing some items. If you are not comfortable with what we have, you should just wear your sash. I think you would look quite regal in it. Really.
We are trying to get something produced that is versatile that people going to Denver can use as a shade, roll up and tuck in their clothes etc etc. We are trying to do that without 900 posts and it is a week before Denver and still no agreement on what should be done.
Also I am doing that out of my own funds with Murphy’s approval. Perhaps you will give your kind APPROVAL as well.
What are the signs for Denver going to be?
I just went to the HillaryClinton.com site
clicked on contribution and it said they we would be
donating to her NY senate Re-election campaign at the
top of the screen. Her website has been cleaned
up and is setup for her senate race from the looks of things. Where do we go to settle her debt?
Thanks to all who respond to my post yesterday. Today is a new day.
WELCOME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANTIFISH & GOANDERSON. Never blog with you, but read all your comments.
#19 InuHanyou1701 . Thanks for your reply. I just logged on.
#470 nhforhillary go to spotlight on hrc.com that will go to paying down the debt. Do not hit the red contribution that goes to her senate campaign.
I see my little PUMA prayers were answered!
Welcome back goanderson and antifish!
Of course I was sleeping upon your return but I’m up now!
Thanks, I made my contribution!!! Free Hillary!!!
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY HILLARY !!! yipee!!
Take Action: Donate $20.08 (or as you can) to the Hillary Clinton Campaign for President 2008 to celebrate the Fourth of July – Independence Day.
https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=3200
PROUD TO BE A PUMA!
PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!
Opps, I poked the post turtle with my stick (donation to Hillary) and he fell off the fence!
Happy Independence Day PUMAs
from a Brit who is in full support of the Rebel Alliance, who declare their rights to peaceful protest and Independence of thought.
When in the course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men [and women] are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable [inalienable] Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among [Women and] Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
That whenever any Form of Government [ or Political Party] becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government [or Political Party], laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its Powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that [Political Parties or] Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government [or Political Party] , and to provide new guards for their future security.
Such has been the patient sufferance of these [Democrats] Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government….
We, therefore, the Representatives of the [PUMA Political Action Committee] (of the) United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these United [PUMA voters] Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent [voters] (of these) States ….
And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
(or something like that)
Go PUMAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ27q2PpFWA
PumaAllie, great video!
#476 PumaAllie
I loved it, Happy Independence Day!
I donated to the McCain rain. Made sure the last two digits were .44
When they asked on who’s behalf did I donate, I entered
Hillary Clinton “for being her friend in the senate”
#476 PumaAllie. Hello PumaAllie.
CONVENTION LOCATION SCAM
It is all about the money. The DNC was having problems getting the funds together to pay for the entire convention (apparently some doners do not like their selection). I am guessing that BO is going to pay for the Field out of his Presidential Campaign Fund.
He’s buyin’ – They’re flyin’
Morning PUMAs, Happy 4th!
Just donated my $20.08 to retire the debt.
Sorry to post this Monty Python video again but it makes me laugh and I can not wait to inundate the powers that HAS BEEN with it in the days before the convention— the opening line is the real kicker. Anybody have Al Sharptons email?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prM9gIkozh4
((((Goanderson)))))))))((((((((antifish))))))))
Welcome Back!!! Go, I agree with you I WILL NOT BE PUT IN A CAGE!!!!
One thing we should look into is if we have any attorney’s on our side! We may need them lol !!
#480 MadLogic
hello, good morning and Happy Independence Day!
479 nhforhillary
That’s a great way to let them know!
oh well I guess I must get back to work now, see you later PUMA family.
Hi PumaAllie. I’m from Aus(9pm here), but worked in London for a little while. Were you anywhere close to London?
CNN OOPS!
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2008/07/jeb-obama.html#comments
Our goal should be HILLARY WINNING THE NOMINATION AT THE CONVENTION!
Super Delegates can turn this thing around. Obama has no credibility left; no one knows where he stands on any issue.
This woman is doing a CAUCUS FRAUD SURVEY. If you have any information, go to her site. This goes to the heart of Obama’s legitimacy in claiming to have ‘won’.
http://www.lynettelong.com/my_weblog/2008/07/caucus-fraud-su.html
hi MadLogic, not really no I live in the North of England. I do have to go to London now and then for business though. Must dash now. It is 12:30 and my lunch break is over.
Have a great day everyone!
MarylandPuma
I sent you an email with my yet another new email address. My gmail was invaded by you know who. They must be getting pretty desperate!
That anti-war thinghy – under the bus
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/anti-war-under-the-bus/
It’s getting pretty crowded under that O’bus, the wheels are loosening up and will dislodged soon.
ok I am supposed to be working, but I just got emailed this.
Everyone should be blogging this today
http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/declaration-of-objections/
Good Morning ,
I just went and did my 20.08 donation to Hillary and also bought a T-shirt for 20.08. Last night I donated to the bus fund and I will be there in spirit. I love this site and all of you, keep up the good work.
According to this article they are planning to put protesters in a fenced in ” cage” area
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_9744092
what a party they treat their protesters like animals
Good morning PUMAS!,
For those of us donating to Hillary today do not make the mistake I made. On her webpage, if you click “Contribute” on the right hand inside upper corner, that is for her NY campaign. Scroll down and click “Show your support for Hillary”, that is the right one. At least I know the money is going for her, and not for Obambi!
this is the full text:
from
http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/declaration-of-objections/
(We must get this out to the mainstream media)
When, in the course of U. S. Presidential Elections, it becomes necessary for one portion of a political party to assume among the people of the nation a position different from that which they have previously occupied, but one to which the laws of nature and of their Constitution entitle them, a decent respect for the opinions of fellow citizens requires that they should declare the causes that impel them to such a course.
In agreement with generations who have gone before us, we hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men and women are created equal; that they are endowed at birth with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of those who suffer from it to refuse allegiance to it, and to insist upon the institution of a new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form as to seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness.
Prudence will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for transient causes; and accordingly experience has shown that citizens are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the political structures to which they are accustomed. But political parties are not governments, and when a long train of abuses and usurpations evinces a design to reduce them under authoritarianism, it is their duty to throw off such a political party, and to provide different representation for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of many in the Democratic Party, and it is this suffering which compels them to now demand the representation to which they are entitled. The recent history of both parties is a history of repeated injuries on the part of elected officials against the electors, having in direct object the establishment of authoritarian power over them, for the purpose of profit. This has rendered the Democratic Party unrecognizable to ordinary citizens. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
Objections
The members of the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and By-Laws Committee violated The DNC charter on May 31, 2008 by meeting in private, in direct violation of the Sunshine Rules Provision of said Charter.
On that same day, the Democratic Party grossly violated ethical standards when it awarded four delegates to candidate Barack Obama based on actual votes for candidate Hillary Clinton, and in addition, awarded him delegates based on votes for “Uncommitted.”
Earlier in the campaign season, the Democratic Party violated its own Delegate Selection Rules by applying penalties to only two states who broke Section 11 calendar rules, even though five states broke those rules. In addition, Florida and Michigan were originally stripped of 100% of their delegates, even though the rules stipulated a 50% penalty.
The decisions of the RBC meeting mentioned above are evidence of sexism and authoritarianism within the ranks of the Democratic Party.
Caucuses are a violation of the one-person, one-vote and secret ballot principles that have been cornerstone Democratic values for more than a century. They produced a skewed and unfair result this primary season. Caucus states are also over-represented in the pledged delegate count, in violation of the one-person, one-vote principle.
Sexism was allowed to flourish as never before not only because of the behavior of the mainstream media, but also by the actions of many in the progressive online community, the stark silence of the Democratic Leadership and because ordinary Americans, male and female, engaged in it as long as it advanced their favored candidate.
Barack Obama and his campaign exploited racial issues in the primary campaign, which risks setting back the Civil Rights movement, and cynical Democratic leaders, as well as some ordinary Democrats, approved of this campaign tactic.
The voices of 18 million voters who supported Hillary Clinton have been illegitimately silenced, ridiculed, and subjected to outright fabrications on the part of the mainstream press and the Internet press.
The evidence is present, for anyone who wants to see it, that authoritarian tendencies fueled by greed are on the rise in the Democratic Party.
Now, in view of the dismissal of one-half the Democratic voters of this primary season, their social degradation, in view of the unjust actions above mentioned, and in view of the disenfranchisement of the voters in two states, and because we do feel ourselves aggrieved, oppressed, and fraudulently deprived of a free and fair primary election, we insist that the Democratic Party address our objections, or risk the loss of our votes come November.
In entering upon the work before us, we anticipate no small amount of misconception, misrepresentation, and ridicule; but we will use every instrumental within our power to affect our objectives. We will employ agents, circulate tracts and flyers, blog, advertise in all media, petition state and national Democratic leadership, and endeavor to enlist the press in our behalf.
Resolutions
Resolved, that the Democratic Party must seat the full Michigan and Florida delegation in adherence to the thoroughly Democratic principle of one-person, one-vote.
Resolved, that Michigan delegates must be awarded according to the actual votes cast, specifically that Hillary Clinton must be given 73 delegates and Barack Obama must be given 0 (zero).
Resolved, that Hillary Clinton’s name must be offered on the first roll call at the Democratic National Convention in Denver in August of 2008, in accordance with tradition for 16 of the last 18 Democratic National Conventions.
Resolved, that caucuses should be abolished, and the Democratic Primary system in its entirety must be reformed to better reflect the one-person, one-vote principle, as well as the equal representation principle enshrined in the Constitution.
Resolved, that millions of women and men alike no longer think of the Democratic Party as the party for women’s issues, or for equality and fairness, or for the protection of abortion rights, and will no longer vote for them based on such criteria.
Resolved, that the cynical exploitation of cultural issues will not be rewarded with votes, and that it is part of the PUMA mission to educate the electorate about such abuses.
Resolved, that the PUMA movement is comprised of traditional and loyal Democrats who have carefully watched and recorded the events of the 2008 Primary campaign season.
Resolved, that 18 million Americans voted for Hillary Clinton, more than any other presidential primary candidate in history, and they have a right to help shape the agenda and processes of the Democratic Party.
#498 Peg
I agree! Hillary 08′!
The place where I donated said it was to retire her debt.
HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY FELLOW PUMAS!
http://home.comcast.net:80/~nw-fla/tribute_flag_B_thompson.htm
I donated $20.08 to retire Hillary’s debt and also went over to McCain’s website and donated $5.44. When asked if a friend referred you, I said yes, hcsfjm.com & PUMA!
#506 I did go to Hillary’s website t donate but there was a check box there that said the contribution was only for the purpose of retiring her debt.
Thats what I had so I felt comfortable placeing my donation. No way would I want it to go to o?ama
#512 When I went to Hillary’s website earlier to donate, the Fourth of July welcome was not there, just her regular website and only the contribute to retire her debt. After I read #506’s post, I went back and the website had been changed for today.
#511 ladyhawkke,
I checked again and that it is what I am reading. Have a good day!
When you open that “Contribute” link in the upper corner right hand inside, you can read the statement where it says that it is for NY.
#Texassherry -
Just wanted to let you know that I personally will miss your posts because you have in many cases addressed mine. I appreciated that!
Now have a very good 4th fellow PUMAs. I have to print out some money for distribution at the town festival.
Today I have to “Cling to my family, friends and party prep”.
#507 PumaAllie: Hi! Thanks for the great post “Declaration of Objections”! How appropriate for today in the USA. Kudos to annabelle who created and posted this document. Have a great holiday, everyone.
#514 Beca4Hillary When you go to the website now with the July 4th welcome, scroll down to the bottom and there is a little picture where you can contribute only to retire Hillary’s debt. The one on top is for NY
Thanks headclunker for the site to retire Hillary’s debt, I sent my $20.08, sorry I couldn’t wait, I have to get some rest.
I sure miss seeing Senator Clinton, I am going to McCain’s site to doante $5.44.
Happy 4th of July, PUMAS!!!
#507 Puma Allie Thanks for the great post. What does everyone think about copying and pasting that into an e-mail and send it to all the news media and officials like we did yesterday? We can use the same e-mail addresses. Except for those couple that didn’t work.
Murphy, if PumaAllie agrees, can you put it on the action page?
Happy 4th to all….thought you would like to see this video….Frightening!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc7B_s1CcIM
Obambi was on the news last night and was talking about how he would change the Lincoln Bedroom when he becomes President. What an a**hole! The guy has nothing to say but flip flop and garbage. And these people that laugh are really drunk on the kool-aid. I don’t know how much more I can take. Have to turn him off every time he speaks, just like Bush.
282 DancesWithPumas on 07.04.08 at 1:00 am I am tentatively planning on going to Denver…not sure of the means yet. Taking a PUMA bus makes the most sense to me, but, I just don’t know.
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The bus would be more fun, and who knows who you might find under it. LOL
Sent my contribution to Hillary. I went to justsaynodeal they have a direct link to the pay down the debt button.
Hey, y’all! Mornin’ PUMAs. I am as always trying to catch up because there is such a fantastic number of responses! Anyway, for those of you who missed it, check #48 on this thread. a wonderful link to a youtube video she made to make people question their misogyny.
sarahfdavis, if you’re here, what about “shero”?
antifish and goandersen – I am SOOOO happy to see you were posting last night. antifish are you awake? I missed y’all and am so glad you’re back. We are part of the same pride. I don’t have your email or I would have emailed you directly antifish (or if I do, I don’t know it is connected to your post name). anyway, going on fumes. way too little sleep until last night.
I am contributing today to Hillary’s debt and to Denver. I can’t go to Denver, so I will sponsor someone who can.
#520 ladyhawkke
annabelle who published it has given full permission to republish it everywhere in blogs and in print.
Go to link as she says she doesn’t own it, it is for everyone, you all own it.
(I think that was a really nice way of putting it too)
So yeah, email it and put it on the action page! I think it deserves to get a wide attention…
(I should be working really, but keep coming back here lol. Maybe I will take an early afternoon off once I finish up what I am doing.)
#522 ladyhawkke, good morning! I agree with you. I can’t watch him either unless I am gathering intel on youtube. How can he be such an arrogant bastard? Changing the Lincoln bedroom? Wonder how the ghost will feel about that?
sorry to curse, but sometimes it is just overwhelming
#516 Hillgirl hi, It’s perfect timing isn’t it?
ps I will write back to your email over the weekend.
MsBinMD – what happened to texassherry???
sandipuma was upset before too. are you back sandipuma? How are you feeling?
All are back I think.
Good Morning PUMAS, Just getting caught up. Sent my letters just now and 5.44 to JM. In the friend who referred you, I wrote Obama, Dean, Pelosi. I still can’t believe this is happening.
MsBinMD-I am still lurking and will try to still post occassionally with items I find to help but just am not comfortable with posting my opinions after what happened. We have lots of work to do and I still support you. Thank you for all the kind words.
Today’s the day! Contribute to Senator Clinton’s debt reduction fund!
https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=3200
$20.08 or whatever you can afford.
Happy Independence Day !!
Unity America PUMA style
We are about to change the landscape of the democratic party and the history of our country. Today Democrats,Independents and Republicans will meet in the center and UNITE in two historical causes. Today we end the democratic stronghold on the most qualified candidate to lead this great country; Sen Clinton and declare Independence from a party thats without leadership and no longer for the people. Donate to retire Senator Clinton’s debt and Green Rain 4 McCain. Sen McCain has shown respect and admiration for Hillary and her supporters he’s extended and olive branch and willing to sit down and discuss the issues important to us. Hes done more than expect our votes hes tried to earn them. Lets help the McCain campaign donate $5.44 or more please include the .44 to represent Hillary’s supporter.
Lets Make History Together
Good Morning… i am wondering if you all sent the declaration to the news media? from this post #448?
http://annabellep.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/declaration-of-objections/
I am sending with the list of email addies i used to notify the press of the PUMA Going to Denver notification… how about everyone here doing that… we need to get this out..
sorry post #507—thanks for some action to do this morning…… its Independence Day!!!
Good morning Pumas! And happy Independence Day to ya’ll!
Today is our day for declaring Senator Clinton’s indepedence from her primary campaign debt. So let’s get cracking pumas! Give what you can, but many, many in the coalition are giving an amount of $20.08 to show our solidarity.
Here’s the ‘correct’ link that will take you to her website donaion page for the debt:
https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=2493
Read the fine print at the bottom of the page and it will tell you where your money is going.
Also, for the snail mail folks, there is a link on that page so you can print out a form to mail along with your check.
Let’s free her today so she can move on and get back to working hard for ALL of us!
Now I’m off to 4th festivities with family. Will be checking in tonight sometime.
morning PUMAs
Happy Independence Day…don’t forget Hillary’s debt today
#539 PA….hee hee
great minds think alike at the same time…I’m just slower
I need a ride from the Louisville, KY area, either to Chicago (so I can catch a bus) or to Denver. I can help some with gas, and I think I have a place to stay once I get there. If you can help, please contact me @ peacocksandlilies@gmail.com. Thanks!
Good way to use those economic stimulus checks huh?
Good Morning all….Happy Independence Day….How appropriate for all PUMAs!
Many have “pay down Hillary’s debt” on their minds today,
Also there is “Green Rain for McCain” today.
Donate $5.44 to his official site today. smile.
Just donated 20.08 to Hillary. Remember to keep fighting for her because she always fights for us. Don’t make her ask BO to retire her debt.
Also, on this 4th of July, please spend some time with the Declaration of Objections.
And please don’t forget the call to action for ir. Thanks!
Murphy- I missed you on the radio show yesterday. Will you put up a link today so we can hear it?
Seems I was put on Obama’s mailing list which is suspicious seeing I would rather pluck my eyes out with a rusty nail than ever sign up to a mailing list with him.
However, I received an e–mail talking about Unity and how so many gathered for the “discussions”
Here is my response to Jon Carson who’s e-mail is connected to the info mail.
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Your introduction is misleading, there was no discussion at the Unity meeting. The meeting consisted of two speeches. There was not an opportunity to ask questions. Discussion involves more than one person conversing about a topic. In a speech one person talks everyone else listens.
Yes, America does need a change. However, it is important to note that change by itself is not always a good thing. Senator Obama proposes change he, his wife and his followers can believe in. I have yet to see the details of this change. Now, before you reply there are details available for those who wish to find them, let me say I’d like to see consistency in his approach to change. Each day, Obama changes his mind as the wind changes direction. It is not only confusing to keep track of these changes, but it is also ridiculous that one person’s platform can be so wishy washy that it changes according to the audience’s response.
Change is needed, unfortunately Senator Obama does not have the desire, knowledge or character to make these changes. And I fear for America if he does manage to swindle and buy his way into the White House.
Trish
P.U.M.A. Pac
Good Morning and Happy Inpependence Day!
$50 to HRC’s for retiring her debt.
Greefun – When you catch up on the posts I look forward to your confirmation!
Antifish, goanderson and sandipuma – Although I wasn’t there to post ‘Oh! don’t go” when things were getting tough, I was concerned. I am so glad that you are here.
The passion that you and all other PUMA’s have is what makes this group so incredible.
nice Trish….very nice…I got the same thing…I think we got linked to his email list when I sent in a daily growl a couple of days ago….figured I would keep on it, so I can PUMA watch…..just call me a troll *whistles*
Someone posted this on Greta’s site. If true, could be interesting. “LARRY SINCLAIR has a new attorney former Delaware attorney general.”
I received a solicitation for donation from the BO camp at my Puma addy which I found strange as I do not know how they got that addy.
Texassherry-the shows are archived so you can listen to them from the website
Happy Independence Day Pumas!
Morning post is up.
Denver update coming soon.
Take it upstairs!
oops, that was me.
er, take it upstairs!
486 PumaAllie
re: video
Please make sure you stand while this video is playing, thank you
TREEPUMA
HappY 4th , PUMAS !!!! I have been doing a lot of lurking lately , and I love how this site has grown !. I still see names from day one and that is even more exciting
They sooooo wanted us to fade away – too bad .
! Anyway , I can’t just stay home in November , but I would like to have a clear conscience when I vote , so I was looking for a little insight from people whose judgment I trust . Thanks , Cooper
Anyway , those of you who have been on here for awhile know that I refuse to support any candidate other than Sen. Clinton until after the convention . I continue to believe that she is the rightful nominee , and until an OFFICIAL nominee is seated at the convention – she , having won the majority of the votes , is (imo) the presumptive nominee …. but , I digress.. I have an honest question to throw out – Has anyone really taken an honest look at Nader’s platform ? I have not . I went to the site this morning , and didn’t have time to figure out how to navigate it … I had heard that his positions were similar to Clinton’s on many issues , but of course I have to see that for myself – if I listened to what people tell me I would be a bot
#548 trishfromcanada;Seems I was put on Obama’s mailing list which is suspicious seeing I would rather pluck my eyes out with a rusty nail than ever sign up to a mailing list with him.
roflmao!
#557 TexasTigress…I heard on Hannity and Colmes last night that Nader may be the only candidate that truly wants to take our troops out of Iraq. Apparently BO is changing his position on Iraq too and although he promised to get our troops out in 16 months he is now saying he’ll have to reassess the situation. On the show they also said that if Nader keeps his policy of withdrawing troops he’ll probably take many votes away from BO!!!
Everyone is in high spirits today. Today is our day as Americans and PUMAs. Donated to Hillary’s retire the debt fund and the bus fund. Yesterday sent the emails to the media and politicos. We are getting organized. PURRRRFECT.
#225
The Nameless One needs large forums just like Hitler did in 1938 in Berlin – Scares the S$$t out of me! I can’t help but think that he would bring on another 9/11, or worse!
I hope and pray that I’m wrong – I just don’t trust him! He needs to be stopped! The price is too high!
GROWL POWER!
#463 gostrumcat, rodham–I love saying that.
I totally agree with you. I am still hoping that more will come out about him and the media will finally let him have it.
One of the delegates said that if HBO wins, then he’ll move to another country. THAT is a great start for us.
I AM VERY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT. 
#42 verbotin , I cannot get to the shirt link, says it doesn’t exist, gave me a search page instead. I really wanted to see it. Think site may be gone.
Witchy 1
Hi Witchy 1
I copied and pasted the store link because that’s what I was browsing at the time. Here is the main link to the site:
http://damnwewishyouwerepresident.com/
Enjoy!
I encourage all those who can not go to contribute to the effort financially.
I read somewhere, today, that Larry Sinclair has hired a lawyer, and not just a lawyer, but the Attorney General of Deleware. Is that correct?
Hi there… just got this in an email from my yahoo group… if it is old news..i hope the new ones on here will enjoy reading..
Obama disses Clinton supporters
Posted by: “chemicalcatalysis” chemicalcatalysis@yahoo.com chemicalcatalysis
Thu Jul 3, 2008 7:05 am (PDT)
July 2, 2008
Notes from the DLC: Obama Disses the Centrists
Posted by TOM BEVAN | E-Mail This | Permalink | Email Author
As many of you know, the DLC held it’s Annual Conversation in Chicago
on Sunday and Monday. Though no one would say it publicly, there was
a fairly significant sense of disappointment that Barack Obama did
not attend the event – especially after news broke Monday morning
that Obama spent all day Sunday in Chicago getting his haircut and
playing hoops.
Understandably, the DLCers felt insulted that Obama couldn’t find 10
minutes to swing by and at least say hello to the roughly 600 elected
officials from around the country who were gathered, ironically
enough, less than a block or so from Obama headquarters.
One of the excuses I heard was that the organization is too closely
tied to the Clintons. But isn’t one of Obama’s primary objectives
over the next few months to win over Clinton voters? A tiny show of
respect to the DLC would seem like a good place to start, but
apparently the Obama high command didn’t feel it was necessary.
The move to publicly eschew meeting with the DLC is especially
interesting since Obama seems to be more or less running his campaign
from their playbook, tacking to the right on the death penalty, guns,
and picking spots in the heartland to aggressively court evangelicals
and profess his love of country. It does seem to be, to quote the
great Yogi Berra, deja vu all over again.
I’ll have more notes from the DLC later.
Declaration Day II has been released for those who are going out to tape the declaration tomorrow. Helpful tips and an a chance to offer your opinion on the future of the document.
Murphy, Maryland Puma,
Been a long day but I got both the e-mails off !
Since you will see this before i rise in the morning, i’ll just say HAVE A GREAT DAY TODAY!
begin W/A puma growl!!!
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