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Senator Obama and Governor Rendell: CALL OFF YOUR DOGS!

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: murphy@pumapac.org

P.U.M.A. PAC Responds To Malicious Harassment and First Amendment Interference by Obama Supporters

Boston, MA – July 1, 2008

P.U.M.A. PAC, the Voice of the Voters in the Democratic Party, has been the victim of relentless, targeted internet attacks by Senator Obama’s supporters.  In an attempt to silence our voices, we have been the target of a focused campaign of internet harassment, vandalism, slander and technological tampering.

On June 25, 2008, a multitude of false ‘spam blog’ reports, all occurring within one night, triggered Google to LOCK DOWN our Blogspot.com site.  We still have not been able to access the blog or update our members.  It has now been six days that we have had NO ACCESS to our private forum. Our blog is a private forum in which we exercise our First Amendment right to free speech.  We use freely distributed software which is available to everyone, and pay the cost of web-hosting to a third-party internet service provider.  We know by the email addresses and ISP addresses that these attacks were coordinated and carried out by Senator Obama’s supporters. It is a violation of our civil rights for Senator Obama’s supporters to try to prevent us from making public political statements in private forums – forums for which we pay significant costs.

Since June 13, our entry in Wikipedia has been the focus of repeated malicious attacks by Senator Obama’s supporters, who continue to add racist, sexist, and blatantly untrue statements, with the intent of slandering our reputation and infringing on our right to make political statements. Our entry has been repeatedly deleted against our will and in spite of our efforts to protect it.  We know by the email addresses and ISP addresses that these attacks were coordinated and carried out by Senator Obama’s supporters. We have asked Wikipedia to investigate this obvious violation of its policies. Wikipedia has been less than helpful.

P.U.M.A. PAC is the Voice of the Voters. We are a legally established political action committee, protected by the laws and regulations of the Federal Election Commission and the Constitution of the United States. Political dissent is perhaps the most precious of all the rights we are entitled to as American citizens. It is a chilling thought indeed that the presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party for the Presidency of the United States, and the sitting Governor of one of our nation’s largest and most influential states would in any way, whether explicitly or implicitly, condone, coordinate, or seek to benefit from the illegal and unconstitutional actions of those un-American citizens who try to silence or intimidate opponents by attacking their right to publicly dissent.

We organize and promote lawful, peaceful, and effective civil action by US citizens.  We never condone or support destructive, violent, or unlawful acts.  We demand that our constitutional and civil rights as citizens be protected and respected by our elected officials.  We call on Senator Obama, Governor Rendell and the leadership of the DNC to denounce those responsible for these malicious attacks on our organization, our property, and our members.  

UPDATE 7/1/08 AT 9:10AM: PUMA PAC IS NOT THE ONLY GROUP TARGETED BY SENATOR OBAMA’S INTERNET THUGS. DOZENS OF OTHERS IN THE JUST SAY NO DEAL COALITION HAVE BEEN TARGETED. ALL OF US ARE VULNERABLE. ALL OF US ARE TRUE GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS AND OFTEN LACK THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND/OR TECHNICAL SKILLS TO PROTECT OURSELVES FROM THESE COORDINATED ATTACKS. IF YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER GROUP, OR IF YOU YOURSELF, HAVE BEEN THE TARGET OF THESE UNCONSTITUTIONAL ATTACKS, PLEASE TELL US ABOUT IT IN COMMENTS AND EMAIL ME AT MURPHY@PUMAPAC.ORG. THANK YOU TO WILL AND DIANE AT JUST SAY NO DEAL FOR SPEAKING UP AND CONTINUING TO BRAVE THE SEXIST HATEFUL ONSLAUGHT THAT IS DAILY RELEASED BY SENATOR OBAMA’S SUPPORTERS. SENATOR OBAMA CONTINUOUSLY REFUSES TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ACTIONS OF HIS SUPPORTERS. HE AIMS TO BENEFIT FROM THEIR ACTS WITHOUT EVER ACKNOWLEDGING OR ADMITTING THEM. THIS IS A PATTERN WITH SENATOR OBAMA — ONE WHICH SHOULD GIVE EVEN HIS SUPPORTERS PAUSE.

PRINT OUT THIS LETTER; FAX OR EMAIL IT TO SENATOR OBAMA AND GOVERNOR RENDELL. TELL THEM TO CALL OFF THEIR DOGS!
Senator Barack Obama, Obama for America, P.O. Box 802798, Chicago IL 60680
EMAIL HERE!
FAX: (202) 228-4260
Governor Rendell, 225 Main Capitol Building, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17120
EMAIL HERE!
Fax: (717) 772-8284
UPDATE 7/1/08 AT 12:23PM: Perhaps the thugs are attacking because the nightmares are making them do it. They are now dreaming about what a horrendous mistake they made in selecting such a disastrously unprepared candidate. Like we said the other day to the DNC and the Obama Movement: DREAM ON!

UPDATE 7/1/08 AT 12:36PM: Just received this email from a HOUND Dog who is upset. Thought I’d pass it along: 
Subject:   Oh murphy.. give it a rest
From:   deleted
Date:   Tue, July 1, 2008 9:23 am
To:   murphy@pumapac.org
Options:  
 
Despite what you may think Murphy, your Republican coalition is not being targeted
by Obama. You are not the "voice of the voters" and I find it astounding that you
cling to this notion that you are a group of 18 million. haha 

Despite your ideas that the world revolves around you and PUMA, Senator Obama and
Gov. Rendell are not in charge of what others do. It is not their problem if you
can't access your cess pools of ignorance.
You arent going to get anywhere calling Democrats "dogs" because that further
reveals the glaring truism that you are no Democrat. Did you eve get that $500 back
from rape-appeasing McCain? How about your contributions to Al Gore? Oh that's
right- you didn't contribute a thing to him.

You want to talk about "exercising" free speech- yet you censor your site to ONLY
PUMA voters. And you should see how some of your pac behave. My oh my momma cat
would be mighty disappointed. You don't (nor do any of your flock) allow any
objective opinion or thought to cross through your vitriolic echo chamber. 

So please, give it a rest with the hypocrisy.
Deal with it.
You're being exposed more and more each day.
You're GOP attacks are not going swift boat another Democrat.

916 comments ↓

#1 murphy on 07.01.08 at 8:59 am

Pumas, be sure to send this letter — fax is best, but email is good too. Esp to Gov Rendell, as his staff probably actually reads the mail he receives.

This is a coordinated attack ON US. We must defend our rights vigorously and LOUDLY.

Fax your letters!

#2 murphy on 07.01.08 at 8:59 am

Reposting bmw60’s links from downstairs.

“Below are YouTube links that are wonderful and tell a great story. I will try to give you titles of them also. Please rate them and leave comments … we need to make them popular and please pass these links on to your friends… hope this helps us all stay strong and not let the DNC or Obama assume our votes and maybe we can say to them once again, “Just get over it.”

Below is a 5 part series on “How to Talk to an Obama Cultist”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nu48TgUVCo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6OAizwKHsU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcjNY8mGhxw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQxJRKXJrwU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXKvV8kyZUE&feature=related

527 ads against Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZPEYaPl8Vs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUZIk35GHis&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSd06IHUZhY

Is Obama Your Personal Jesus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOKdi-qxFvk&feature=related

Forest gump version… you changed … we found out about you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFbguoMgd50

HOnest talk by a black man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_aIvfFq3BA

#3 Hillgirl on 07.01.08 at 9:01 am

Wow, Murphy, thanks for the update and some of the evidence I was requesting. That is really disturbing. I had not realized that the internet sabotoge was actually traced to particular people or organizations. Thank you for investigating this and for all of the amazing work that you do! Happy birthday PUMA and Happy “Independent’s” day to all!. Off to work. :)

#4 DawnE on 07.01.08 at 9:01 am

morning PUMA’s
this letter would go nicely in Letter to the Editors in newspapers as well…
I also have a comment about the money spent on Secret Service guarding BO. Would that money not be better spent watching over our tireless Murphy?

#5 utahpuma on 07.01.08 at 9:02 am

Murphy

I just emailed you my new email address.

I will fax the Press Releases right now. Great write up and hopefully the word gets out to the nation.

I also emailed Oprah today. I have a feeling I’ll hear back from her. :)

#6 MsBinMD on 07.01.08 at 9:04 am

REPOST FROM DOWNSTAIRS

When I was on the link referenced by #371 jrhed above, I noticed a link to an article in the Baltimore Sun.
As you may be aware Maryland (my state) is a very pro-Obama state ( free donuts, hotdogs and transportation gets you lots of votes).
This article explains how Obama needs to capture the Independent Voters. There is a comments section following the article.
We are going to need lots of exposure in this state and I am asking that everyone visit this article and post a comment.
I am going to do mine as soon as I return from my meetings this AM.

Thanks jrhed for the article. Sun Article in referenced down the right hand side of the page.

http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/message-from-george-washington-on-party.html

Thanks everyone!

#7 prplvette85 on 07.01.08 at 9:05 am

Is there some sort of cease and decist..(did I spell that right:) order or class action law suit that we can file against Obama and his supporters? Maybe we should ask Heidi Li…she is a lawyer. Do we have any lawyers in our Puma Family? Isn’t this against our civil rights? can we call the aclu? sharpton lol…..wonder what he would tell us…never mind…I already know :). But seriously there must be something we can do legally.
This is censorship at its worst. Remember when everyone was in an uproar with Tipper Gore because she wanted to censor music and books? I believe this is far worse.

#8 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 9:08 am

Greta blog is still up, has that letter been posted on it yet. There has been over 1,000 posts.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/#comment-1299851

#9 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 07.01.08 at 9:10 am

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080701/ap_on_el_pr/obama_faith

“But Obama’s support for letting religious charities that receive federal funding consider religion in employment decisions could invite a storm of protest from those who view such faith requirements as discrimination.”

I don’t even have words to say anything about this…… I’m speachless……

#10 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 07.01.08 at 9:11 am

#9 speachless=speechless.

#11 antifish on 07.01.08 at 9:11 am

Done, Murphy. Emails sent to both. My “application” for nominee is in the mailbox waiting to be picked up along with three different solicitations from various party groups. I just stick a Puma bill in the postage paid envelopes they provide and send them back.

#12 prplvette85 on 07.01.08 at 9:13 am

utahpuma: speaking of oprah, I have tried to unsubscribe to her website for 2 months now. It keeps saying it cannot be processed at this time. I have emailed her, and her tech support, and written letters to no avail. now I just keep putting it as spam, as nothing else has worked. makes you wanna say hmmmmm………

#13 antifish on 07.01.08 at 9:14 am

Wanted to post the AOL Straw Poll link again since we moved up. If you haven’t voted already please do so. If you have, please visit and look at the pretty red color on the map. :)

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/27/aol-straw-poll-june-27-july-4/

McCain 62%, Obama 38% - 162,168 voters

#14 Headclunker on 07.01.08 at 9:17 am

ALL ABOUT THE MONEY

I believe that all the harassment we are seeing is because the BO campaign is failing. They are getting desperate. I believe that both the DNC and the BO Campaign are finding out that Americans also vote with their MONEY. And if you significantly disregard the popular votes, or obtain them fraudulently, they may find this a more effective alternate way to let you know how they feel.

I signed up for email from the DNC, GOP and the major candidates this election because I intended to get more involved than I did during the last disasterous presidential election. At this point, I am really enjoying the email I get from the BO campaign. I especially enjoy telling them off when they ask for donations. The last several mentioned that the month end closing for contributions was here. The one prior to that blamed the P.A.C.’s for them being behind on fund raising.

Have we been BAD CATS!?

#15 PumaAllie on 07.01.08 at 9:19 am

Speaking of youtube, have you seen this great new video from beethovenqueen? (out today)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9IkEoce3xY

PUMA: Kiss Him Goodbye, Hillary!!!

of course it got added to the PUMA Alliance channel.

The choicest PUMA of YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/user/PUMAALLIANCE

#16 EWard on 07.01.08 at 9:21 am

Our PUMA comments are still in “moderation” on the NYT caucus blog regarding our protest against Google.

#17 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 9:22 am

Happy Birthday, PUMA. Meow - prrr - hssst –

This post is for Matt, PiePiePie, and Iam - last night as I was watching the local news - there were about 12 young people ages 18 to 22 - all had taken on the cause to change their name to add Hussein as the middle name - is this for solidarity for the nonameone - so that whenever someone says anything about him - they are saying the same about them as well - like in Sparatus movie - when they wanted him to step forward so they could go after him - and all his men said they were Sparatus - sorry I am asking you three - but enjoyed our conversations last night and want to learn how to go forward through your thoughts and eyes - Have a good day all.

#18 NoMoreInFL on 07.01.08 at 9:24 am

Morning PUMAS and Happy Birthday!! :)

Thank God we live in America where free speech is protected. Guess some will have to learn the hard way when their actions (actually a blessing in disguise) will bring down *61.

Six minutes and counting…

#19 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 9:26 am

Will do. Thanks, Murphy.
#332 downstairs That link has been removed. Imagine that! We are lucky to have this site as everything negative about Obama is still being removed. I saved Michelle Obama’s thesis to my computer as way back someone said this would happen.

#20 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 9:28 am

Hey! how about

“HAPPY BIRTHDAY CANADA!”

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh we rock north of the border!

#21 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 9:29 am

I am back and wanted all to sign this Care2 petition..,. We Want Hillary.. go to this and sign up if you care to:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House

#22 storytellers on 07.01.08 at 9:29 am

This looks more like MUGABE´S ZIMBABWE
than USA
besides acting like a mafia
where is our protection as citezens????
what is our goverment doing about this harassment of FREEDOM????
WHAT IS OUR JUDICIARY SYSTEM DOING ABOUT????
DOES HILLARY & BILL STILL SUPPORTING THIS KIND SHAMELESSNESS???’

#23 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 9:29 am

Excellent MURPHY - fax on its way to the good Governor and NO NAME.

#24 storytellers on 07.01.08 at 9:30 am

THANK YOU MURPHY

#25 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 9:30 am

Those young people share with BO - do not know what they are doing. Just want to play and win a game.

#26 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 9:30 am

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CANADA and thanks to our great PUMA Trish.

#27 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 9:30 am

Thank You Murphy for reposting the YouTube urls… please use them everyone… some have had to shut down their ratings due to obamatrons wreaking havoc with their comments and rating system.

#28 murphy on 07.01.08 at 9:31 am

UPDATE 7/1/08 AT 9:10AM: PUMA PAC IS NOT THE ONLY GROUP TARGETED BY SENATOR OBAMA’S INTERNET THUGS. DOZENS OF OTHERS IN THE JUST SAY NO DEAL COALITION HAVE BEEN TARGETED. ALL OF US ARE VULNERABLE. ALL OF US ARE TRUE GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS AND OFTEN LACK THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND/OR TECHNICAL SKILLS TO PROTECT OURSELVES FROM THESE COORDINATED ATTACKS. IF YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER GROUP, OR IF YOU YOURSELF, HAVE BEEN THE TARGET OF THESE UNCONSTITUTIONAL ATTACKS, PLEASE TELL US ABOUT IT IN COMMENTS AND EMAIL ME AT MURPHY@PUMAPAC.ORG. THANK YOU TO WILL AND DIANE AT JUST SAY NO DEAL FOR SPEAKING UP AND CONTINUING TO BRAVE THE SEXIST HATEFUL ONSLAUGHT THAT IS DAILY RELEASED BY SENATOR OBAMA’S SUPPORTERS. SENATOR OBAMA CONTINUOUSLY REFUSES TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ACTIONS OF HIS SUPPORTERS. HE AIMS TO BENEFIT FROM THEIR ACTS WITHOUT EVER ACKNOWLEDGING OR ADMITTING THEM. THIS IS A PATTERN WITH SENATOR OBAMA — ONE WHICH SHOULD GIVE EVEN HIS SUPPORTERS PAUSE.

#29 ABinNY on 07.01.08 at 9:32 am

15 PumaAllie
Love this one!!!

#30 CTKEY on 07.01.08 at 9:36 am

#8 Just posted on Greta site…

Did you get a e-mail from the dems and them selling t-shirts !! I just deleted it.

Had a conversation with my husband last night on politics. He is a Dem and is so desparate to get rid of the Bush Administration and all it’s workings, that he can’t see through the mess and vote McCain. However, he did admit that he has always liked McCain. The repeat of the republican and Bush mess is a big one to be up against in November.

Not sure what’s next, but McCain needs to come up big.

#31 NoMoreInFL on 07.01.08 at 9:37 am

Murphy, please check your e-mail. Sending you a contact and waiting for info on attacks.

What one should always remember…don’t piss off a PUMA with attacking free speech!!

#32 hillaryistheone on 07.01.08 at 9:37 am

Sent emails and have letter ready to mail for Dean. The only question I have is, how can people support his guy Obama…including Hillary and Bill….. can’t they see just how evil Obama and his supporters are?????

I just don’t understand!!

#33 tree on 07.01.08 at 9:39 am

Happy Canada Day Trish, I already sent an email to my friend in Kitchener

#34 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 9:39 am

Murphy,
This is the third stage - they fight you… ;D

#35 Ergot4Hill on 07.01.08 at 9:40 am

This is an outrage, and more evidence that NObama will do anything to win.

I am madder than a disenfranchised Michigan voter who stayed home because they were told the primary didn’t count.

#36 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 9:42 am

Good post from last night BMW60 - regarding cults and their followers - how DO WE fight them then??? Fire with fire?? Do we lie down and take it - right now we are doing everything by the book and the law - where do we go from here - will pure numbers make a difference - I have posted on newspapers, written letters to Senators and Governors, boycotted advertisers of the mainstream media - and these other people keep on keeping on - there must be a way - perhaps legally that we can overcome this tradegy before its too late - I do remember seeing someone post on here that she was a lawyer - making we could get her suggestions.
Off for the day - but had to get my Puma comments in.

Back later

#37 tree on 07.01.08 at 9:42 am

thats an email card

#38 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 9:42 am

Next stage will be - You win. :)

#39 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 9:43 am

#26 Goalucard4Hill and #33 tree

Thank you :)

#40 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 9:44 am

Just another reminder for all here…..I am back and wanted all to sign this Care2 petition..,. We Want Hillary.. go to this and sign up if you care to:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House

#41 utahpuma on 07.01.08 at 9:45 am

prplvette85

Thanks for the tip on Oprah email.

#42 gordana on 07.01.08 at 9:46 am

Good Morning Fellow PUMA’s!

I just caught up on my reading and am shocked at the happenings of last night/evening!

Just sent my letter - I received their canned reply of being unable to respond due to volume, etc. I gave them another piece of my mind.

As Rosanna Dan said: “If it’s not one thing, it’s another”!
It seems to be their game plan! Soon! They will implode and then, maybe then, people will start to think for themselves instead of being swept up by emotion only.

GROWL POWER!

P.S. I forgot - THANK YOU, MURPHY!!!!

#43 sweetpea on 07.01.08 at 9:46 am

Rec’d EMail requesting $30.00 donation and get free shirt from OBAMA CAMPAIGN.

Made my remarks about NO BAMA and sent back to DNC.
This is my way of showing NO SUPPORT for OBAMA.

#44 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 9:46 am

We cannot fight the cultist, but we must try to reason with them and understand how they think… here is a bit I found on the internet and perhaps it will help all here:

Everyone take note: Cultists are fiercly fraternal. They take personal offense to any and all things critical to their brethren. They attack en masse, and will often recruit Cultists for backup whenever they need to portray the appearance of popularity. One should expect a flood of Cultist rhetoric at that point.
Pay attention everyone. This type of Cultist is among the more reasonable types. They are able to understand right from wrong, and generally are well informed and honest. The issue with this type is they are radically naive. This cultist is arguing something like: A Nazi soldier was not necessarily anti-semetic, he may have been just really proud to be German and serve in the Army. While technically true, only the most naive among us would come to the same conclusion. (ignoring Nazi conscrpits)
This is a prime example of the Cultist mentality. He/she cannot grasp anything as fact (even the obvious) unless their leader says it to be true. A Cultist can look at this video and actually be offended by the obvious. This explains why a Cultist will fall for their leader praising the public financing system, and then saying it’s fundamentally broken within a 7 month period. They will do so passionately and with a straight face, because this is a cult.

Comment by obama cultist

First off, u don’t know Obama. You never been to Chicago–this is so clear due to ur ignorance on Obama’s history while working as an organizer for the Roseland Community. End of Story!
Further more, you should, 1st, tell us who u are and what have u contributed to society??? “nothing is my guess”. How can u make a serious statement when no one knows “jack” about u? what would come up if we googled u? a news article about u being busted smoking crack??? I wonder.

bigticer (22 hours ago)
Reply
Now, look how this Cultist still cannot articulate a cogent argument; even after intial criticism. He/she assumes I’ve never been to Chicago based on NOTHING; for all they know I could be blogging FROM Chicago. And, then, of course, the required childish insult; in this case “smoking crack.” To a Cultist, opposition to Obama is, by definition, ignorance.

#45 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 9:48 am

bYE FOR AWHILE……. CHECK IN LATER…

#46 EWard on 07.01.08 at 9:49 am

Our PUMA letters have been liberated from “moderation” and are now posted on the NYT caucus blog about the Google fiasco.

#47 NoMoreInFL on 07.01.08 at 9:52 am

Yes, we will win!! Thanks SparkForHill, sometimes we forget when the bombs are falling all around that the “hill” is just a few more steps away!! :)

#48 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 9:53 am

bmw60 - I have tried via email and when canvassing for Hillary to REASON with them and I can tell by their voices their eyes have already glazed over - could never get them to even listen to anything that I tried to say about HOPE and CHANGE what - politics??? Yeah right - there must be a way to deprogram back to normal thinking again - if you can figure that one out - I will be the first one out there to try it.

#49 utahpuma on 07.01.08 at 9:53 am

Murphy
I already emailed you about the threats I had and why I had to change my email.

Already faxed to NoName and Gov. Hound

So being a growl-on Puma with claws out (actually a pissed off Puma) I will FAX and/or email the above Puma Press Release to the newspapers I have already contacted in Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Montana, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. I kept up a database on them.

With faxes I don’t have to give out a phone number.

Time to go to work.

#50 MtGirl on 07.01.08 at 10:05 am

It is finally becoming clear to everyone that OB and his other DNC fellows are serious about taking away our right to free speech. They are always playing the race card if it gives them an edge and they watched every single word Pres. Clinton ever uttered so they could jump on it. Now they are organized about shutting PUMA up?? What are they SO AFRAID of anyhow?? As if I didn’t know.

#51 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 10:06 am

Murphy, am I to cut and paste your letter exactly and then add my comments and sign my name? Usually you have a link to the action. So, please clarify for me. Thanks.

#52 greenfun on 07.01.08 at 10:09 am

Just sent a fax of the letter to both Owanna and recreant Rendell.

#53 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 10:10 am

bmw60 counted downstairs that we have about 35 active bloggers. bmw60 asked how many are with Puma pac. Murphy would know more, but I guess the first week we had 600-700 letters to DNC on reasons… We then had 400-500 on introduction thread. We have millions of hits and viewers - include MO, do not you think so?

#54 queen81 on 07.01.08 at 10:14 am

letters have been taken care of!

#55 william DenverCO on 07.01.08 at 10:16 am

#1 murphy on 07.01.08 at 8:59 am
DMurphy, per your request to fax or snail mail the letter, might you have an email address for Gov Rendell?

#56 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 10:18 am

E-mailed the letters. I will fax them later when I go out, don’t want the fax traced to my phone line , call me paranoid :)

#57 goDGS on 07.01.08 at 10:18 am

I think that we can expect a lot of this kind of activity in the future. They do have the technological expertise to do this form of criminal harrassement.
This is reminiscent of the ‘brownshirts’ when the nazis were coming into power. I guess this gives a clue at the Obamat mentality.
The good news is that we are frightening them! We will not quit nor will we back down.
I have my Hillary sticker on the car and if we can evolve a PUMA sticker, I will put that next to it.
I do expect some harrassment in Denver, but they will not stop us!!

PUMA PAC

#58 murphy on 07.01.08 at 10:19 am

SparkForHill #52 — that is correct.

ladyhawke #50 — cut and paste, add to it if you like, print and fax. or email. Details arent all that important — the important thing is that Obama and Rendell hear from HUNDREDS of Pumas today that we are all OUTRAGED at these Obama attacks on the civil rights of ALL of us.

This isn’t about “Me” — I’m immune to their personal attacks. This is about Puma PAC, our movement, and our right to political dissent.

If they come after me and my site today, what will stop them from coming after you and your site tomorrow??

#59 Lin4Hill on 07.01.08 at 10:24 am

Murphy - never mind –disregard my email. Something funky happened, but I hope I’ve fixed it.

#60 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 10:24 am

Email Sent. Exactly Murphy - they can do to one, they can do all her supporters. If they are the true winner, why they have to do theese.

#61 Pretjene on 07.01.08 at 10:24 am

SADLY, these Obama supporters I have talked to on Yahoo and explained that this kind of “hacking” of websites and blogs that express different political beliefs are in SUPPORT of the hacking! NEVERMIND the FACT that many of the websites that were anti Hillary were not only riddled with lies, and blatant derrogatory comments but also done in poor taste! These Obama Sheeple are too far gone for them to EVER see that this type of censorship effects all of us! They feel justified and PROUD of the way in which this campaign has been run. THIS is YET another reason why I can NEVER unite with the party under Barack Obama! They also claim that GOOGLE supports Obama! THIS is always their answer that is suppose to make this attacks acceptable!

#62 murphy on 07.01.08 at 10:24 am

lin4hill, great!

good to see you

#63 woodster on 07.01.08 at 10:26 am

I would like to fax this letter - will it be in “letters” later so I can get a clean printout? Some of us need remedial aid to participate you know. I won’t give up though - you are doing great work!!

#64 cosmeta on 07.01.08 at 10:29 am

For BMW60,

ERIC RUSH’S WEB SITE

ErikRush
Obamination
February 20, 2007
Twelve Point Trinity Unity Church List on Afrocentricity by ERIC RUSH News Columist

1 Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.”

“Christian theologians view Black Liberation Theology as abusive and a form of Marxism masquerading as Christianity.”

“The church of Black Liberation Theology has finally been exposed. The curtain of omission woven by the agenda-driven media has been rent in two. The unholy altar of unacceptable racism and anti-Americanism has finally been seen for what it is — an unabashedly black militant church in Chicago.”

http://www.therant.us/staff/rush/2007/print/02202007.htm

Note: This is *must* read.
Note: Erik Rush is an African-American

REALITY CHECK
March 20, 2008
Irreverent Rev. Jeremiah Wright: Just words?
By Marie Jon
“America was given a small snippet of what was obviously an ongoing theme within the sanctuary of Obama’s church. We can see clearly how Rev. Jeremiah Wright brought out the worst in human nature. The congregation’s unrighteous shouts of “amen” were uttered with glee, along with inappropriate laughter as hateful words were spewed by their senior pastor.”
http://www.therealitycheck.org/2008/03/20/irreverent-rev-jeremiah-wright-just-words/

FOXNEWS
Obama Camp Rejects New Black Panther Party Endorsement After Removing Web Posting
by FOXNews.com
Wednesday, March 19, 2008

“The New Black Panthers, who inherited their name from the Black Panther Party of the 1960s, had the page on the Obama campaign’s public forums. The group’s message said it is backing Obama because he “represents ‘positive change’ for all of America. Obama will stir the ‘Melting Pot’ into a better ‘Molten America.’”

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/19/obama-web-site-still-carries-new-black-panther-party-endorsement/

Note: The *above* link now renders an EMPTY PAGE RESULT, so except for the little I was able to quote from, there is nothing to see.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59326

MY BARACKOBAMA
HAS BEEN CENSORED
This was the Black Panther Endorsement, made the same day as BHO infamous Race In America Speech that won him accolades from certain media.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGrXCt

Note: The *above* link now renders an EMPTY PAGE RESULT and has been censored by BHO.

#65 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 10:31 am

Murphy - do we have an alternate plan - just in case they do go after this site - someplace that we can still meet and continue with our projects

Drac

#66 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 10:32 am

Thank you Cosmeta - ITS SO GOOD TO SEE YOUR POST TODAY - I have been worried about you.

Drac

#67 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 10:33 am

My last post for the day - grandkids are throwing a fit to use the computer themselves - HOW SELFISH….Lol.

#68 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 10:33 am

cosmeta - welcome back, read a lot about you yesterday.

#69 A-Will on 07.01.08 at 10:33 am

Emails to Gov. Rendell and the DNC sent! :)

#70 A-Will on 07.01.08 at 10:34 am

I think we should inundate the blogs today with this press release.

#71 texassherry on 07.01.08 at 10:34 am

Emails to Obama and Rendell sent

#72 zombiefortruth on 07.01.08 at 10:35 am

Must See Video…….

This video shows a “Clear Picture” of the Hypocracy of BHO on Race that the MSM hasnot mentioned at all!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvXbmRZbs5M

Pass it on!

#73 antifish on 07.01.08 at 10:36 am

More troubles ahead………..

NRA plans $40M fall blitz targeting Obama
By JONATHAN MARTIN |

NRA members will get automated phone calls, mail pieces and pre-election editions of the group’s three magazines making the case against Obama.

The National Rifle Association plans to spend about $40 million on this year’s campaign, with $15 million of that devoted to portraying Barack Obama as a threat to the Second Amendment rights upheld last week by the Supreme Court.

“Our members understand that if Barack Obama is elected president, and he has support in the Senate to confirm anti-gun Supreme Court nominees, [the District of Columbia v. Heller decision] could be taken away from us in the future,” Chris Cox, head of the NRA’s political arm, told Politico.

The politically powerful gun rights group will split its message efforts between communicating with its 4 million members and the tens of millions more firearms owners across the country.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11452.html

#74 deadgirlsrise on 07.01.08 at 10:37 am

I am really enjoying reading all of the posts on Gretawire blog!!! I should be working, but the words of my fellow Americans are ringing in my ears and eyes. I was also over on the Resign Howard Dean petition, and reading the outrage and disenfranchising of my fellow Americans brought tears to my eyes. Its one thing if you wrong me, but I cannot bear to see injustices perpetrated on others. I am outraged, I am mad, and while I do not have a whole lot of spare time, I will give my money and my time to this cause! No Obama, No Way, Not Now, Not Ever.

#75 mrjerbub on 07.01.08 at 10:38 am

I emailed the both of ‘em. Go Murphy!!

#76 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 10:38 am

Murphy, have you tried to post anything on Criag Crawford blog. He’s open minded and may pick up on the the blogs being attacked.

His link today is:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/07/war-power-still-a-debate-worth.html

#77 mcr on 07.01.08 at 10:38 am

I e-mailed the letter to Obama & Rendell and will also mail the letter to BO.

Thanks for the info. I am amzed at how you manage to kep up with all this.

#78 mcr on 07.01.08 at 10:39 am

I e-mailed the letter to Hannity, Greta, & O’Reilly.

#79 FEATHERSONWIND on 07.01.08 at 10:42 am

JUST SIGNED UP & SENDED THIS

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House

I”M ASHAME OF THE DNC….YOU ARE TRYING TO TAKE OUR PARTY AWAY FROM ” WE THE PEOPLE “…..40 YEARS I’VE VOTE DEMOCRATIC….MY DAD SAID IF YOU DON’T HAVE FAITH,HOPE,LOVE…YOU CAN’T DO ANYTHING….I HAVE LOSE THE FAITH & HOPE IN THE DNC…..BUT THE LOVE IS STILL THERE…IN TRUTH…AND IN THE KNOWING…. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT TOLATED…”NOT COUNTING EVERY VOTE” …THE DNC…HAS TURNED “RED”

ck.out
http://www.18millionvoices.blogspot.com/

#80 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 10:42 am

COPIED LETTER AND WILL SEND TODAY!

GO TO unheardamericans.com and read the reasonable article today!

Unheard American Voices published a new entry entitled “Men Clinton Supporter’s & What They Say by Karen Hill” on 7/1/2008 4:34:57 AM, written by A Silenced Voter.

#81 elect2009 on 07.01.08 at 10:43 am

Obama Seeks to Add Black Voters

LINK: CLICK HERE FOR STORY

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121477605938614115.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Now once on that link please look at the MAP - it actually shows HOW MANY blacks actually DID NOT vote in the past election. SOOOOOOOOOOOO before you think about writing in Hillary..you might should RE THINK that because while I’m ‘not’ a racist, I see Obama going after more and more blacks to back him.

NOTE: not sure if this is the ‘right’ place to put my RANT today. I’m LIVID!

#82 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 10:49 am

5,000,000 SIGNATURES NEEDED…. ONLY CLOSE TO 6,000 SIGNATURES SO FAR… PLEASE DO THIS!!!

Just another reminder for all here…..I am back and wanted all to sign this Care2 petition..,. We Want Hillary.. go to this and sign up if you care to:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-

#83 mcr on 07.01.08 at 10:49 am

Obama’s Money Class
By DAVID BROOKS Published: July 1, 2008

Barack Obama sells the Democratic Party short. He talks about his fund-raising success as if his donors were part of a spontaneous movement of small-money enthusiasts who cohered around himself. In fact, Democrats have spent years building their donor network. Obama’s fund-raising base is bigger than John Kerry’s, Howard Dean’s and Al Gore’s, but it’s not different.

#84 mcr on 07.01.08 at 10:50 am

The South Will Fall Again

By THOMAS F. SCHALLER Published: July 1, 2008

Two pervasive and persistent myths about racial voting in the modern South are behind the notion that Mr. Obama might win in places like Georgia, North Carolina and Mississippi.

#85 MaBe on 07.01.08 at 10:54 am

Here’s the site for the article that mcr mentioned above (#83) — I was just about to send it myself. Yup, they’re scared, folks — looks as if OB is not going to magically win the South, as the DNC keeps telling us….

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/01/opinion/01schaller.html?th&emc=th

#86 mcr on 07.01.08 at 10:54 am

RE: # 82 & #83 The reference is:

http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/01/opinion/01brooks.html&OQ=_rQ3D1Q26thQ26emcQ3Dth&OP=59a73195Q2FQ3AnQ5E,Q3AQ3C5CmD55Q60Q51Q3AQ51Q3FQ3FvQ3AQ3FQ27Q3AQ3F-Q3A5oaba5bQ3AQ3F-,D551m38Q60pg

#87 prplvette85 on 07.01.08 at 10:54 am

Sent my faxes to Rendell and *61

#88 NoMoreInFL on 07.01.08 at 10:58 am

Sent my e-mail to Rendell and making a call for *61 to get more press than we can ever imagine!

#89 mcr on 07.01.08 at 10:59 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/politics/

Obama to Expand,
Change Faith-Based Programs
Sen. Barack Obama is proposing to strengthen the White House initiative which to extend and expand funding to faith-based programs. The intiatives currently provide federal funding to religious charities who in turn, offer food, clothes and other services to low income communities.

#90 mcr on 07.01.08 at 11:02 am

Re: The Fix: Chris Cillizza

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/
Posted at 10:05 AM ET, 07/ 1/2008
Wag the Blog: FISA Problems for Obama?

#91 pamawo on 07.01.08 at 11:03 am

I will fax the letters to Obama and Rendel and Dean today. How about getting something to Lou Dobbs?
He seems to be willing to listen.
I am also going to fax my two senators (CA) and Nancy Pelosi.
As a long time democrat I am accustomed to being trashed by republicans. However, this trashing from members of my own party is sickening. They are going to hear from me. I am fed up with their doing nothing about the sexism in the primary and now this.
Where is the democracy? Party leaders with clay feet.

#92 Beca4Hillary on 07.01.08 at 11:03 am

Can these people obtain our email addresses? I am afraid they can.

#93 joanna0902 on 07.01.08 at 11:06 am

Hey PUMA’s….FYI

TEXAS CAUCUS FRAUD HEARINGS - JULY 7
It is very important that everyone in Texas knows about this meeting and people show up, testify and protest. Also anyone with press contacts needs to contact them and get them there. Please forward this to everyone. I know this is a sham by the DNC but we have to make alot of noise. Lynette

There is more info on this at the following web site…

http://www.lynettelong.com/

#94 ABinNY on 07.01.08 at 11:06 am

Letters emailed to BO and ER.

#95 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.01.08 at 11:07 am

#72 antifish
Check this out!
On the Second Amendment, Don’t Believe Obama!

Friday, June 06, 2008

On the Second Amendment,

Don’t Believe Obama!

The presidential primary season is finally over, and it is now time for gun owners to take a careful look at just where apparent nominee Barack Obama stands on issues related to the Second Amendment. During the primaries, Obama tried to hide behind vague statements of support for “sportsmen” or unfounded claims of general support for the right to keep and bear arms.

Print PDF version

But his real record, based on votes taken, political associations, and long standing positions, shows that Barack Obama is a serious threat to Second Amendment liberties. Don’t listen to his campaign rhetoric! Look instead to what he has said and done during his entire political career.

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.2

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month sales restrictions.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 2, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00219)

2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in “Obama had greater role on liberal survey,” Politico, March 31, 20087. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)

3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 2, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00217)

4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, “Obama: ‘Common Sense Regulation’ On Gun Owners’ Rights,” ABC News’ “Political Radar” Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/obama-common-se.html)

5. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2004 SB 2165, vote 20.

6. “Fact Check: No News In Obama’s Consistent Record.” Obama ’08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/11/fact_check_no_news_in_obamas_c.php)

7. “Candidates’ gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and “Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns,” Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_560181.html)

8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7. (http://www.joycefdn.org/pdf/98_AnnualReport.pdf)

9. “Obama and Gun Control,” The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)

10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.

11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.

12. “Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control,” Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/2007/04/clinton_edwards.html)

13. Chicago Tribune blogs, “Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action,” February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/barack_obama_comments_on_shoot.html)

14. Barack Obama campaign website: “As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . .” (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/urbanpolicy/#crime-and-law-enforcement.)

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#96 LisaNC on 07.01.08 at 11:09 am

Murphy and all,
I sent the letter to Gov. Rendell as well as the below with this note.

“To those who turn a blind eye to Sen. Obama’s campaign.
Each of us will be held accountable for our deeds.

Lisa Savage
One voice of the voters.
Greensboro, NC

democraticparty@democrats.org, Kalee@carthagegroup.com, sfpelosi@yahoo.com, Ben.Abrams@mail.house.gov, info@dscc.org, press@dscc.org, info@dccc.org, ausman@embarqmail.com, james_roosevelt@tufts-health.com, mame@thereileygroup.com, GSS1
CC: Hannity@foxnews.com, nytnews@nytimes.com

#97 wontbackdown on 07.01.08 at 11:09 am

#15 PumaAllie…

This was the BEST!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9IkEoce3xY

#98 MsBinMD on 07.01.08 at 11:10 am

******Murphy, I sent you an email with some******* contact info. Had to try several times. Not sure if you got it at all or if you got it several times.
Messed up when I tried to attach twice and once again when I tried to send. Finally got it to go.
Rather lengthy so I didn’t want to post here, but I can if you want me to. I have saved.

#99 cosmeta on 07.01.08 at 11:11 am

If you haven’t seen this video, pleas view it… this woman is under attack by BHO supporters and is asking for YOUR HELP!

June 20, 2008
Paula Abeles a former Hillary Clinton Volunteer Under Attack…
YouTube - Barack Obama Stop Your Hate We Are Voting John McCain
Email Your Support at: spabeles@comcast.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG1uy_efHzU

#100 wontbackdown on 07.01.08 at 11:11 am

#92 joanna0902… Thanks for the INFO… I, alonmg with several others will definately BE THERE!

#101 islander on 07.01.08 at 11:16 am

This terrorist-type behavior only strengthens our resolve and inspires others to join us!

#102 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.01.08 at 11:17 am

#95 lisaNC
Do you mind if I use your emails you listed and send my own note along with the letters to these ppl?

Murphy can we add these to the list of where ppl are sending this letter and add a list by state of ppl that should get this letter too! Ask ppl to give list but this needs to go at the top with the request to send the letter. Really needs to be WIDE spread!

#103 wontbackdown on 07.01.08 at 11:17 am

Anyone having information on the Texas Caucus should go here and fill out the survey (want to hear from us) they are gathering information for testimony at the hearings:

http://www.txdemocrats.org/page/s/primsurv

More information can be found on:

http://www.lynettelong.com/

#104 BigCatLover on 07.01.08 at 11:17 am

Here is the email (sorry I don’t have acces to a fax machine) I sent to Gov. Rendell. I will send the canned one to Barack Obama:

Dear Governor Rendell:

You were a dogged and effective supporter of Hillary Clinton during the primary race. Her supporters much appreciated seeing your humor and directness on tv. I know I sang your praises to everyone I discussed the race with. Where did that Ed Rendell go? I don’t have a problem with you now supporting the presumptive nominee of the party (although it would have been nice to see someone have the courage to hang in there until the convention), but now that you are supporting Obama you seem to be adopting the same dirty tricks that he and his supporters rely on. Call off the dogs that you let loose to interfere with others first amendment rights to express our preferences in this election. We pumas are not Republicans, but lifelong Democrats that cannot support this nominee for an assortment of reasons, the main one being the manner in which he was selected. I suspect you know that, but love the ‘game’ of politics. Honest debate is fine, blocking our blog sites and trying to silence us will not bode well for the future of the Democratic party. Count on it!

#105 cosmeta on 07.01.08 at 11:18 am

#65 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 10:32 am

[[ Thank you Cosmeta - ITS SO GOOD TO SEE YOUR POST TODAY - I have been worried about you.]]

Well Drac… I think my *reaction* yesterday was due to much needed sleep… That and I awoke with a very disturbing dream. At first I saw small twirling tornadoes forming in the skies and then the scene quickly changed to young child being led to an open window. The person in this dream said to the child, you can do it, I know you CAN… then placed a pill in the child’s mouth… after which the child jumped out the window.

Most distressfull!

#106 PouncingPuma on 07.01.08 at 11:19 am

#15 PumaAllie
YouTube by beethovenqueen
Loved it! PUMA paws all over *61! I think he is feeling the pain.
I returned letter from BO headquarters in Chicago requesting donations….entered NOTHING! for “amount” and PumaPac.org for e-mail address.

#107 W. Lotus on 07.01.08 at 11:19 am

I sent my emails and will also post in my blog.

#108 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 11:25 am

Yikes, Cosmeta - that was a disturbing dream - I wonder if that represents all of US -

Glad you are back - you are a great contributor.

Drac

#109 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 11:26 am

#97 What has happened to free speech! I don’t want people to spread hate but to have a different point of view what is wrong with that. Is the media really afraid to touch this since Obama is involved. If it was about McCain or Hillary they would be all over it.

#110 LisaNC on 07.01.08 at 11:27 am

1of18MilforHill08

Go for it. :) One is a CA delegate that use to be a Hillary supporter who drank the kool aid. He will probably respond.
Lisa

#111 NoMoreInFL on 07.01.08 at 11:28 am

Murphy, please check your e-mail. Sent “just got call back”…

#112 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 11:29 am

#87 NoMoreInFL
Which press are you calling? CNN.com would be nice.

#113 wontbackdown on 07.01.08 at 11:29 am

#80 elect2009… I have started to speak more openly to AA about BO’s past on their issues and his definately “white, slum lord” afilliations, big corporate donors, loss of jobs in Illinois to overseas that he never stepped in for employees, but took huge sums from those companies moving overseas.

Guess what? All had no idea about this! AAs have been told it is all lies, misinformation (”white propaganda”) to keep a black from being elected! Told to ignore it! #80 elect2009… I have started to speak more openly to AA about BO’s past on their issues and his definately “white, slum lord” afilliations, big corporate donors, loss of jobs in Illinois to overseas that he never stepped in for employees, but took huge sums from those companies moving overseas.

Guess what? All had no idea about this! They have been told it is all lies, misinformation (”white propaganda”) to keep a black from being elected! Told to ignore it! They are not reading, researching, etc. because they were told to ignore negative things they may hear as racist lies! AAs are not reading, researching, etc. because were told to ignore negative things!

#114 ABinNY on 07.01.08 at 11:30 am

97 cosmeta,
Why do these media hacks just focus on the idea that some Clinton supporters are voting for McCain? This guy completely glossed over the point of Paula’s issue…that we are being threatened and badgered by BO and his possee? It’s not just about who is voting for whom anymore. The larger issue is the corruption in the DNC, the media bias, and now the threats to our rights to free speech and political protest.
We must get bigger and louder!
Growl PUMAs!

#115 wontbackdown on 07.01.08 at 11:31 am

soory… for the post… tried to cut and paste a correction and did it twice.

#116 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 11:31 am

I just sent Greta that video asking her to do a follow up story on it.

#117 doria on 07.01.08 at 11:31 am

Murphy, did I miss something? What makes you think Ed Rendell is behing this?

I had a thought about fundraising. Remember the Media relentlessly touting Hillary’s inevitability and Money Machine way back when. I think people stopped giving because of that perception. It was only when she lent her campaign personal funds that her supporters stepped up.

Could the same thing be happening to BO?

#118 Middle age female on 07.01.08 at 11:33 am

“15 PumaAllie on 07.01.08 at 9:19 am Speaking of youtube, have you seen this great new video from beethovenqueen? (out today)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9IkEoce3xY

**********

Thanks - good one!!!

#119 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.01.08 at 11:33 am

Murphy -
My #94 post is awaiting moderation - I got the info the NRA site and was responding to #72 antifish post info. Please feel free to adjust post as you feel appropriate.
Thank you

#120 wontbackdown on 07.01.08 at 11:33 am

#102 BigCatLover… great letter!

#121 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 11:34 am

Greta has not closed that blog yet. So maybe keep posting on that site, it’s up to 1016 posts now.

#122 LoveHillary on 07.01.08 at 11:37 am

IS IT JUST ME!!!!!! OR….

WHAT’S THE DEAL WITH THESE FORMER HILLARY ENDORSERS? WESLEY CLARK JUST SAID THAT HE IS BACKING OBAMA BECAUSE OF HIS “SUPERIOR JUDGEMENT.” I THOUGHT THESE PEOPLE WERE INTELLIGENT. JUDGEMENT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE PUMAS ARE DISGUSTED ABOUT. OBAMA’S JUDGEMENT IS ATROCIOUS, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GIVEN!

#123 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 11:37 am

ladyhawkke, if you are here, please email me at dragonflypuma@gmail.com. I have another Orlando PUMA who wants to chat with you. I don’t have your email addy or I would have given it to her.

thanks

#124 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 11:37 am

Many for BO Elites do not read either, they hear his Speeches - that’s all.
As we headed to 4th July holiday, we will facing our friends or families who are for BO. It’s good time to open the dialog with them, ask what they know and tell what we know… I am sure you will be shocked so little they know about him…

#125 NoMoreInFL on 07.01.08 at 11:41 am

#110 SparkForHill I am not calling the press but people that can stop *61 from the tactics that his goons are doing. Remember when Clyburn claimed “Hillary” supporters called him with remarks. They forget that everything is traceable!

Go Murphy!! How they forget…”United, we will win”!

#126 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 11:42 am

#103 cosmeta - so glad to see you back. what a disturbing dream! hope you are doing better today.

#127 firechief on 07.01.08 at 11:42 am

WOW, progressive radio hit a new low this morning. Listening to two female dj personalities out of LA, they wondered aloud if progressive radio has a responsibility to vett Barack Obama objectively, discuss some of the dirt on him, or should they just support his every move and do all they can to get him elected? They chose to close their eyes, just march on and get him in there.

I was stunned to hear this. They may as well have come right out and said, “shall I just put blinders on and keep drinking the kool aid, or what?”

What good does that do ANYBODY?

This is complete lunacy. All across the board, whether it’s the conservative side or the progressive side, our media has done our democracy a grave disservice with this election. It’s up to us to TAKE IT BACK and get this country turned around.

#128 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 11:43 am

After 15 months can you believe we don’t know to much about BHO. How can that be? Another month just went by and did we learn a thing. I just don’t get it.

#129 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 11:44 am

Cosmeta and Pumas, no matter what - tomorrow is always another day.

#130 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 11:45 am

Only FOX is questioning but I wonder if they also are starting to drink the kool aid

#131 NoMoreInFL on 07.01.08 at 11:46 am

#126 We did learn a lot!! His body language while Hillary was talking with his arms folder (don’t anyone enter) and the smiles and gesters that she gave when we spoke about us…not supporting *61. She knows we are stronger than any words that he can say.

PUMAS ROCK!!

#132 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 11:46 am

Murphy, just trying to catch up and saw what happened at the grocery store with your 7 year old. It is just so upsetting to me. I am glad you are so strong! Thank you for this excellent post - I am going to work on my action items now.

#133 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 11:47 am

Everyone: Yes, there is lots to do today, but PLEASE go see beethovenqueen new video, mentioned by PumaAllie,…It is fabulous!..It is currently rated three stars…Hit it hard…rate it 5. The paw prints, the music, the message, one of the best yet…Would love to see it on this site somewhere…na na na…na…..na na na na …
na na na ….Gooood bye! Don’t miss this …..It will energize your souls, indeed…with a good hearty soul felt laugh and a Yes…..Good bye to the most dangerous, incompetent candidate ever put forward by any party, let alone the Democrats, in the history of this country.

#134 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 11:48 am

#125 firechief - you are so right! that is why I am so thankful for the internet and PUMA pac. Our media has totally let us down. Ed Murrow must be rolling in his grave.

#135 mcr on 07.01.08 at 11:48 am

http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/07/01/we-send-press-releases/#comments

I posted the letter on AOL’s straw poll discussion.

#136 LandiPUMA on 07.01.08 at 11:49 am

Hi folks

I’m Violet Hill’s partner/hubby. She’s been posting here since Hillary’s “exit” speech in early June. I’ve also been very involved here since then, reading the PUMApac blogs & posts daily and doing what I can for the cause (like writing letters, etc). I thought I’d jump in now to give my own separate input and to add another male to the pack of pumas.

Violet and I have been long-time fighters for women’s and gay rights, environment issues, etc. We both campaigned hard for Hillary and donated hundreds to her. We’ve long been liberal-leaning Democrats and have always voted Dem. I was even a member of MoveOn.org (ugh!) until they endorsed BO (I gave them a piece of my mind when they did that). HOWEVER, this year, if Hillary is not the nominee, we plan on voting McCain because we feel that’s the best strategy to keep BO from the White House and to give Hillary the best chances to run and win in 2012.

I hope many of us disgruntled Hill-supporters, particularly in the swing states, come around to realizing that voting Mac is the most effective strategy to defeat BO!

Together we can teach the DNC a lesson by voting AGAINST their illegitimate, selected nominee in Nov. And right now we can also protest and try to do something about the injustices, corruption and “brokenness” in the Dem party, their Primaries system, the DNC; as well as the bias of the U.S. media. I’m in PUMA to do all I can toward these ends. Both Violet and I are writers; I’m a writer and editor and she’s also a translator (English/Spanish). These are skills we can contribute. –Landi

#137 mcr on 07.01.08 at 11:50 am

#133 Correction Should be:
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/27/aol-straw-poll-june-27-july-4/420#c12947578

#138 will13smith on 07.01.08 at 11:52 am

If you some laugh go to
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/zuule/Barry%20Obaba/obamabcwithseal.jpg
another KOS makeover

#139 will13smith on 07.01.08 at 11:53 am

OOPS
If you like some laugh go to*

#140 catsrlove on 07.01.08 at 11:53 am

Hi to all fellow PUMAS
Murphy is it possible that our membership list has been hacked by some nobama troll?

This morning my phone rang at 9:02; I answered and there was silence and a beep. It has been doing that every six minutes.

Called the phone company (big waste of time). They said they would test my phone, and I should call them in five minutes.

During that five minutes the call came through again, and my answering machine picked it up.. same thing - silence and a beep.

Called the phone company back. This person said there was nothing on my account that I had called. GRRRRRRRRRRR … I explained the calls again. The person said after another call to hit *9. She said a module was probably stuck. I said, “It make also be someone that is trying to intimidate me.” Of course she thought I was paranoid.. Right…

Has this happened to anyone else?? These people really are a bunch of thugs. How could so many people be so blind?

Murphy, you are so brilliant. Your letters are such an inspiration. I need to have hope..

Purrs to all..

#141 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.01.08 at 11:55 am

#135 mcr
I went and voted - but my question is why are the polls that are showing the Chosen One lagging never provided to the public….besides the obvious reason of the MSM in the tank crap. All Americas, voters and ppl have a right to hear the facts, ask the questions, provided with the truth and then make there decision. Problem is this is not happening….come November all who contributed to this mess will have to bear the responsiblities for their own actions and participation in this “lame excuse” of the political election(s).

#142 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 11:55 am

#131 NewOrleansPuma
Can you please post the link of the new video? I went PumaAllie, found only this 08 classical link:
http://pumaparty.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=258

#143 PouncingPuma on 07.01.08 at 11:57 am

Absolutely gorgeous day here in Northern Indiana. Looking out my window, it is so hard to believe that our most basic civil right to freedom of speech is being violated in such despicable ways.
I do not have a fax or printer right now and am ignorant of the ability to “copy and paste”….
What I have done is sent the second half of my $$PUMA pledge.
I respect the fact that Murphy hasn’t been drumming for contributions but I suspect the extra $$$s would be most helpful right now to promote and defend our cause.
Thank you, Murphy for your endless, hard work and dedication. You are brilliant!
I am always amazed at the talent and tenacity of the PumaPac….great work by all.
Thank-you

#144 mcr on 07.01.08 at 11:58 am

#138 1of18MilforHill08 on 07.01.08 at 11:55 am

I hear you. Let’s keep blogging this info.

#145 charmgrl on 07.01.08 at 11:58 am

Hi Pumas

I sent the letters this morning. I also emailed General Clark. His strange remarks are pushing me closer to voting for McCain and I am wondering if that is the plan or is this just bad strategy from the Obama crowd?

#146 NoMoreInFL on 07.01.08 at 11:59 am

#137 catsrlove After you hit the *9, call your local police. They have the ability to check out who is doing it.

#147 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 12:00 pm

#131 NewOrleansPuma
Is this the one? can see D. Murphy too…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aRZRuMts8A

#148 Maryland PUMA on 07.01.08 at 12:05 pm

****** DAILY GROWL ALERT*******

The Growl has been released. Please check your email.

If you are a new member or want the Growl by email, please email me at marylandpuma@gmail.com with the word GROWL in the subject line.

You will enjoy today’s cartoon. :)

Much hugs,
MarylandPUMA
******************************************

#149 snowtiger on 07.01.08 at 12:08 pm

This is terrorism. Period.
As Stalin the said the point of terrorism is to terrify and seeing what has happened to some pumas and the concerted effort to silence dissent, there is no doubt that this is a terrorist campaign
We need to document every action taken against pumas, and others, and bring the evidence to the federal authorities.
Clearly this a coordinated set of attacks.
The vandalism claiming to be pumas, the assaults against people and the hacking of pro Hillary-anti “o” sites are a clear pattern. If these were done by any other group they would be considered a terrorist group.
Document document document!
Create a paper trail. File with the federal authorities on every single instance. This needs to be stopped asap.
We are beyond politics here and entering into an assault on our very way of life. We are not the third world.

#150 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 12:08 pm

#139 SparkForHill: Please see #15 Puma Allie ..top link of the two listed there…I am not too good at posting links! …I am one of those BabyBoomer Pumas who gets a bit nuts with computer stuff….I am not being lazy just as we used to say …telling it like it is!

#151 Dreyfus3 NJ on 07.01.08 at 12:08 pm

Faxed and email letter on behalf of my husband and myself.

Made my contribution to PUMA

#152 Maryland PUMA on 07.01.08 at 12:10 pm

Suggestion for PUMAs with significant others with like minds……

Don’t send joint letters. Send TWO as individuals!

:)

#153 mimi1020 on 07.01.08 at 12:11 pm

OK PUMAS my faxes have been sent.

Arggg, they make me sooooo mad!

RISE PUMAS, RISE………

#154 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 12:11 pm

#144 SparkFor Hill…Yes…See what I mean? I had a feeling you could find it quicker than I could post it!

#155 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 12:12 pm

Sure, just to let me know if this is the one :)
http://pumaparty.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=664

#156 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 12:14 pm

Good morning (PDT) to all PUMAs.

Will, I got called to task in another letter to the editor (my third). I’ll share later.

Murphy - My daily thanks to you (and your seven yr old daughter) for all that you do to defend the freedom of every voter. Keep the faith and continue to move forward with all that you do.

To All PUMAs - My daily action was to reply to the DNC’s recent request sent via e-mail to buy a T-shirt so they could raise money by the deadline last night. I replied this AM (after the deadline) saying the following: (I forgot to take my positive pill this AM)

Dear McMahon,

Thank you for your request for funding by buying a T-shirt (probably made in China). I’ll buy an American made shirt and put the following statement on it for more effect. “Not Paid for by Special Interest PACS of Washington Lobbyist that one can see. But we seek bundlers and take people’s gas money based on distorted truth and lies.” Peddle your shirt sales with accurate information on them. From a PUMA Independent in WA State

#157 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 12:17 pm

So you can copy this and perhaps use it to send out more emails….

FAIR’s Media Contact List
Let your voice be heard! Talk back to the media.

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ABC News
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List of Email addresses for all NPR news programs

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How to Contact New York Times Reporters and Editors

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Give feedback to USA Today

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Reuters Editorial Feedback

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#158 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 12:18 pm

or go to the website to copy:

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=111

#159 murphy on 07.01.08 at 12:18 pm

Thank you VERY much bmw60

#160 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 12:20 pm

my emails are sent… letters written… and $20.08 sent to Hillary’s campaign to retire her debt… couldn’t wait till the 4th of July…LOL

Thank You all for this great site!!… no cussing or name calling here…

Stay positive and have a great day… off to my tasks this afternoon!!!

#161 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 12:22 pm

Posted this information last night, but most of you were asleep. Go to “timesonline” and look for article about Obama and campaign statements surrounding the possibility of Robert Gates as one of O’s cabinet. There are some other articles that are interesting as well. Heard Mike Malloy (who I don’t usually listen too) on progressive radio talking about his dissatifaction with Obama. I almost drove the car off the road hearing someone on “progressive” radio making an anti-O statement so I came home and did the research. Ouch, he was right on about the Gates thing. Politics as usual and now O is looking for some foreign affairs experts to cover over his inexperience in that area.

The other incident that I’m having a hard time with is Wesley Clark and his hits on McCain. I truly am a Clark fan. Has this been blown out of proportion?

#162 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 12:22 pm

beethovenqueen new video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suxll18ygi8

#163 hillaryistheone on 07.01.08 at 12:22 pm

Thanks bmw60, I added that to my favorites!!!

#164 bythelake on 07.01.08 at 12:23 pm

Excellent letter Murphy…Job well done, again!

I have….

FAXED copies to OB and RENDELL!

#165 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 12:24 pm

#146 snowtiger: I absolutely agree. In fact, out the box I saw this about Obama and his so called campaign,
I happen to believe, frankly, that we, this country, are in the process of a coup…an attempted one. And I have not one micron of paranoia in me. Every tactic, every move models movements of fascists, socialists, and other totalitarian movements that have taken over other countries. I am old enough to remember similar movements in Europe and Eastern Europe over the last 50 years. This is a very dangerous time in this country.
Everyone must be prepared to stand, to continue to protest and to not back down one iota. When Hitler began his move on Germany, do you actually think everyone knew or supported him? They didn’t. But he prevailed. I do not overstate. Barack Obama and those who support him, especially those none of us yet have been able to identify, i.e. countryless, multinational corporate heads and others, (George Soros among them, indeed) are an absolute danger to the very nature of this republic. If any of you think that too extreme….did any of us fathom the results and activities of the last 5 months ever happening in our country? No. It will get worse. Stand firm and committed to what this Pac and others are supporting.

#166 cosmeta on 07.01.08 at 12:25 pm

Do folks know about the young millary man who returned from Iraq trying to get support from his Illinois senators to get medial aid… three or four senators… they all responded *EXCEPT* for BHO.

#167 PouncingPuma on 07.01.08 at 12:25 pm

re #150, mimi1020
Murhpy,
Do you think Maya Angelou would be interested in being an Honorary PUMA?
Her wisdom and grace would be most welcome.

#168 storytellers on 07.01.08 at 12:26 pm

I HAVE TO GO OUT OF THE CITY X 1 DAY
I WILL BE BACK TOMORROW +o - at this time
good luck

#169 PumaAllie on 07.01.08 at 12:26 pm

this is the video I posted earlier from beethovenqueen.

brand new today, retire hillarys debt and kiss bambi goodbye.

:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9IkEoce3xY

#170 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 12:27 pm

Another one for Lunch break
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYZOrfDq7UY

#171 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 12:28 pm

I just sent out this e-mail to Ed Shultz along with the We Send Press Releases letter:

Dear Mr. Shultz:

I have heard you on numerous occasions dismiss Hillary and Bill Clinton by saying that Senator Obama does not need them. I would direct you to blog.pumapac.org to show you that you are very wrong.

We feel that you in the media tried to demonize the Clintons during the campaign and there are a lot of us out here disgusted by the fact that the DNC did not stand up and defend them. We will not fall in line behind the democratic presidential nominee. You and the DNC can try and dismiss us but I believe you do so at your own peril.

Sincerely,

I’ll be e-mailing Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann also.
To e-mail Ed Shultz during his radio show: ed@edshultzshow.com

#172 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 12:29 pm

#149 snowtiger: Sorry, I put 146…My previous comment is to snowtiger entry #149.

#173 Cyn NY on 07.01.08 at 12:29 pm

Letters faxed!

#174 ABinNY on 07.01.08 at 12:31 pm

Letters to BO & ER mailed!

#175 tstrainor on 07.01.08 at 12:31 pm

I posted the following comment to Thomas Schaller’s Opinion piece entitled, The South Will Fall Again, in today’s NYT:

“Mr. Schaller’s math may be right, but as a southerner I am compelled to point out that race is not the only factor (it’s not even a major factor) that motivates southerners to vote Republican, as Mr. Schaller’s article implies. In the South today, southerners vote Republican because they are by and large conservative people with conservative values. The big issues for southerners are national security, individual and states’ rights (distrust of big government), taxes (the economy), gun rights, preservation of traditional Christian values(marriage, pro-life, etc), so on and so forth. Race may motivate some southern voters, but probably not any more than it does in other regions of the U.S. Thus Schaller’s rationale is just plain wrong. Southerners will not vote for Obama, not because of his race, but because he is too liberal. Many southern cities have had or do have African American mayors (Atlanta, New Orleans, Birmingham, Mobile, to name a few) as well as proportional representation in state and local government. Just like anywhere else, these elected offcials succeed because of coalition building across racial lines. The rationale of Mr. Schaller’s article reflects a very old, tired, stale, outdated, and hugely simplistic view of the South as a region. As a southern liberal, I am offended by an article that passes as analysis, but in reality reflects very poorly on the author’s understanding of a complex region, culture and people. When all is said and done, Mr. Schaller’s analysis can be summed up as this: Obama can’t win in the South, because everyone knows that Southerners are racists. Enough of the race baiting! Shame on you.
— pumas.are.gathering, Gulf Coast”

#176 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 12:32 pm

As I was skimming yesterday’s posts to get Ed Shultz’s web address from antifish I happened to read a post saying that they feel ignored by this site.
There are so many postings that it is sometimes hard to read all of them much less respond to them. What I try to do is respond to a few posts each day. If we all did that I think it would keep us more connected and motivated.

#177 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 12:32 pm

For Puma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9IkEoce3xY

#178 michelle47 on 07.01.08 at 12:33 pm

Good day to all pumas, I just listened to a story on npr from yesterday 6-30-08, the link is The story.org. Sorry I need help with copy and paste, kids are not around. The story is told by a woman named Kristen Kaszynski who’s husband Kyle was a member of the secret service, he died in Iraq in 2005. She stated that he was doing secret service detail in Chicago and that he guarded pretty much everyone who was anyone. She said that he talked very highly of Senator Hillary Clinton, in his opinion she was a genuine, fun loving human being, oh and he was a republican. Kyle said that if Hillary would let people see that side of her she would become the next President, sadly he did not get to see her run for office. I just thought it was a nice story to tell and I hope others will listen to it, Kristen also spoke about voting and has begun to wonder if her vote means anything at all, she is a democrat. Just wanted to share, it was nice to hear.

#179 tillerylakelady on 07.01.08 at 12:33 pm

Was wondering if it would help us if we contacted our local newspapers and told them that the Obama Campaign were violating our rights, and shutting down our web sights, to stop free speech? I sent my Donation to McCain yesterday , plus the 44 cents. I e- mailed Obama to call of the dogs. Going now to fax those letters’ Is there any thing else we can do? Have a good day pumas

#180 cosmeta on 07.01.08 at 12:35 pm

You should all check to see how much your local newspapers charge to place a 3-LINE add in the personals column.

L1: PUMA’S For Hillary Clinton
L2: PUMA’S Against Barack Obama
L3: http://www.blogpumapac.org

-or-

L1: PUMA’S United For Hillary Clinton
L2: Fight the DNC’S Selection
L3: http://www.blogpumapac.org

Note: Most papers charge not only by line but by number of characters. Murphy can devise the most inexpensive wording. And if coordinated with a heads up, we could all place the same EXACT AD on the SAME day for maximum impact.

~just an idea

#181 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 12:36 pm

#169 PumaAllie
Did not know you are here! I got it it seems.

#182 ABinNY on 07.01.08 at 12:36 pm

Funny Story…I just carried my laptop into the room where my printer is to print the letters to BO and ER. I printed them and came back to my living room where I am reading the PUMA site and when I tried to get back on my connection was lost. My email program was not connecting either. I was totally paranoid that the obambots were hacking me, then I realized that when I sat down to print I accidentally kicked out the cable wire. I need to calm down.
Purrrrr

#183 MamaPuma on 07.01.08 at 12:38 pm

A new PUMA who is getting signed up asked me to forward the information to everyone

DNC protests will be behind fence - By Felisa Cardona
The Denver Post

The fence around the public demonstration zone outside the Democratic National Convention will be chicken wire or chain link, authorities revealed in U.S. District Court today.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_9744092?source=email

#184 utahpuma on 07.01.08 at 12:38 pm

There’s an article on CNN this morning that McCain pulled some blogsites off Google because they said bad things about Obama, such as he was like Hitler. They named the 3 sites and ours wasn’t one of them.

any connection to our little problem??

#185 murphy on 07.01.08 at 12:41 pm

Great work Pumas — keep the letters rolling!

2 new updates above. One is funny, the other — not so much.

#186 BigCatLover on 07.01.08 at 12:41 pm

#171 Hillmania

Good letter to Ed Schulz and he can be swayed by what his listener say, although he’s probably heard so much anti Obama stuff at this point that he’s dug in his heels. Ed ALWAYS does what is best for him and his career. If he sees things tanking for BO he may just come around to our side. Can’t say the same for some of the other Air America radio show hosts.

#187 tstrainor on 07.01.08 at 12:41 pm

UPDATE: Hmmmm. NYT has yet to post my comment, while other later comments continue to be posted. What’s up with this????

#188 tillerylakelady on 07.01.08 at 12:42 pm

Every time I get new info on Obama I send it to Hannity I’m getting ready to tell him about the technological tampering right now then i gotta go fax. BY PUMAS

#189 PumaAllie on 07.01.08 at 12:42 pm

#162 SparkForHill

that’s ok, I just checked back in and saw you were discussing that great video from beethovenqueen.

:)

heres another new one, added yesterday from Laurenfhammond

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4p0t_PnjVs

It is a thank you to Hillary from the PUMA voters.

To the tune of “She’s Electric” by Oasis, with some of Hillary’s last campaign speech, and a PUMA response.

I love it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4p0t_PnjVs

#190 cosmeta on 07.01.08 at 12:42 pm

June 19, 2008
YouTube - PUMA ROARS - justsaynodeal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9dVfylr5bg&NR=1

July 1, 2008
YouTube - PUMA: Kiss Him Goodbye, Hillary!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9IkEoce3xY

June 20, 2008
Cristi Adkins appears on Neal Cavuto’s show and…
YouTube - Cristi responds to Clinton-Obama announcement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yXhgVsfdSg&NR=1

#191 schlin96 on 07.01.08 at 12:43 pm

http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/pumas_are_swiftboats_darragh_murphy/

#192 PumaAllie on 07.01.08 at 12:44 pm

#180 cosmeta

be careful with the web address, you missed a dot it’s

http://blog.pumapac.org

but it really is a great idea, worth everyone checking out.

#193 Battle for the Hill on 07.01.08 at 12:44 pm

Lock the cage and keep the dogs out, I say.

#194 oscarp on 07.01.08 at 12:45 pm

hi my friends, although busy, I have been checking our blogs, and I have just emailed the letter to The Miami Herald, the local nespaper here in Miami, FL

nakedpolitics@miamiherald.com

if anybody else from Florida wants to do it, I will continue emailing this letter to as many newspapers as I can.
They won’t be able to shut us off, this is not CUBA !!

#195 snowtiger on 07.01.08 at 12:46 pm

#165 Neworelanspuma
I never looked at it that way. I mean I thought it was more domestic nonsense but, your posting sent a chill up my spine.
I think you may be right.
The tactics are textbook, from what little I know of such things.
After all, “o” was a nobody and a nothing (politically speaking) six months ago. How did he get this far this fast? Must be some amazing support behind him somewhere and I mean power brokers.
Now we are in a phase of actual attacks against those who dare to speak their minds or act upon their convictions.
Scary.
One thing we got going for us however, we are Americans and tyrants have a long history of underestimating we “average” folks.
United we stand.

#196 cosmeta on 07.01.08 at 12:47 pm

Murphy— You need to put up your Wikipedia article on your action page and updated… Make sure you use the words, “copyright protected” …. then, wait a few minutes… and then post the update on Wikipedia. By posting it to your website first, you would be copying your own words, and those who handle that page for you, will always know exactly what to replace the BHO tampered info with. Make sure you leave your link back to PUMA.

They might be able to change Wiki, but they won’t have access to your site to undo anything—see.

#197 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 12:47 pm

Catlover

So what’s with Ed Schultz. I can’t stand to listen to him. He’s so two faced. After his anti-Hillary talk, I wouldn’t expect him to do anything “fair”

#198 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 12:49 pm

Murphy

That e-mail to you was so typical of the O campaign and affliates. Keep centered and help us work for freedom of speech.

#199 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 12:50 pm

snowtiger #195

O has been in the works since 2004 and his speech. Add the bundlers (see politico articles) and that pretty much sums it up on how he got so far so fast.

#200 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 12:52 pm

#175 tstrainor: Well said. Obama’s own stated strategy for winning the South is to sign up unregistered black voters. That, however, because the secular Messiah says so and the mesmeriazed media concurs, is not playing ” the race card.”
Obama will loose the South for the reasons you stated, tstrainor. A poll released today by Southern Media and Opinion Research, Pollster Bernie Pinsonat, well known down here for doing polling, paid for by people who are Democrats and Republicans, shows John McCain at 52.2% and Obama at 35.5% with 12.3% undecided or didn’t know. I, a lifelong Democrat, hope those numbers not only hold but increase for McCain.

#201 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 12:53 pm

#123 I e-mailed you but did not use my regular e-mail address. Have another one in case it gets hacked I won’t care. I live 110 miles from Orlando. Would like to meet up with someone close to Daytona, Ormond, St. Augustine or Palm Coast.
Sent a support letter to Paula Abeles and am getting ready to fax to Rendell. Am hesitant about faxing Obama unless I go to staples and use their fax.
Also, why is McCain not speaking louder and firmer? He always sounds like he’s whispering. I want someone with guts to really speak out and not be the nice guy while the other one rolls all over you. And this morning, in the Daytona Beach News Journal, there was an article about immigration and both McCain & Obama are on the same page. I’m disgusted with McCain’s stance on illegal aliens and he is losing his conservative base by doing so.

#202 BarbNOBO on 07.01.08 at 12:53 pm

Thanks for the great letter Murphy! I just sent them to the “selected one” and my governor-a great disappointment to our state!!!
Yesterday on Shawn Hannity’s talk radio show a BO supported called in and was asked what were some of BO’s accomplishments. The man was speechless and couldn’t think of one!!! These people seem to be in a trance state, like on a high or in a euphoria. What we are seeing is true cultism at it’s peak. We need to learn how to deal with them because when in these trance states the cannot understand what is rational!! I will do my research on it and report back!!

#203 islander on 07.01.08 at 12:53 pm

Lil ole grape on 44 said:

Emailed and faxed Rendell and the empty O the following message:

Internet terrorist behavior such as sabotaging blog sites only makes PUMA stronger and makes more people sympathetic to our cause. It also further damages Obama’s already shabby reputation.

It does not stop us from getting out the messages because we are all linked to more secure sites. We also have a strong, and growing stronger, offline network using faxes and printed flyers to distribute information.

HOUNDing us and playing gremlin tricks on our internet communications hurts your UNITY program a lot more than it hurts us.

The Spirit of ’76 did not need the internet, faxes, telephones – the spirit of liberty cannot be silenced in this country. We are the REAL Democrats. We are the ever resourceful Americans who fight for freedom, independence, and democratic princioples. Who are you?

#204 MsBinMD on 07.01.08 at 12:53 pm

#176 Hill

Everyone likes to feel their suggestions and imput are acknowledged. And if not accepted at least appreciated.
How long does it take to post the word “good idea”

I agree that there are a significant number of posts and that we tend to be drawn to certain people’s for their superior ability of presentation, however, when people start to feel that what they have to offer may not be quite good enough, they will stop being creative. Then they will just read….. and then they may leave.
and…….
We may just miss something that is very important.

So for anyone that feels they have not been acknowledged, here is a big sincere CHEER!

#205 emca on 07.01.08 at 12:54 pm

Here’s a link to what going on with huffpost gang:

http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/113817.html

Something of buyers remorse. Some of the comments are really quite good.

Expect the anti-Bama sites to see a lot more traffic.

#206 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 12:54 pm

#195 snowtiger: You got that right…as we say down here!

#207 oscarp on 07.01.08 at 12:54 pm

breinhard@miamiherald.com
Beth Reinhard
Political Writer

meklas@miamiherald.com
Mary Ellen Klas
Tallahassee Bureau Chief

lclark@miamiherald.com

Lesley Clark
Washington Correspondent

gfineout@miamiherald.com
Gary Fineout
Tallahassee Bureau

I also emailed the letter to these people from The Miami Herald.

#208 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 12:55 pm

BigCatLover: Thanks, he doesn’t seem like the type that will listen to anybody else’s point of view so I hope you’re right.

#197mayor0102: I’ve been listening to all of Shultz’s vitriolic rantings against Hillary and Bill all primary long and now he’s saying BO should ignore them and that he doesn’t need them and Bill should be kissing up to BO not the other way around. I’ve had enough! I’ve tried ignoring him but he just won’t go away. He’s always on either CNN or MSNBC.

#209 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 12:55 pm

MamaPuma #183

PUMAS and chain link/chicken wire. Hmmmmmm - Maybe the chain link might keep us out, but chicken wire.

#210 heysandy on 07.01.08 at 12:55 pm

Murphy,

Was unable to print or email the letter to BO or Rendell. I did email both expressing my position, but would prefer to fax and email the letter. Will you please email it to me at heysandie@gmail.com?

Thanks very much!

#211 murphy on 07.01.08 at 12:56 pm

Schlin96 at 191 has helpfully pointed out a smear attack on Puma PAC by one of the so-called liberal, feminist bloggers. How the mighty have fallen.

Check it out and defend yourselves. This is not an attack on me — it’s an attack on us and our right to political dissent.

I dont use the term “Free Speech” because sometimes that sounds bland. We all have the freedom to say what we want and all, but when we use the phrase “Political Dissent” I believe it carries more weight.

It’s one thing to be able to say, “I hate motherhood, apple pie and baseball.” It’s quite another to be able to say “George Bush picks his nose, is ugly, and is the worst president in the history of the United States.”

Both are important. But the second one is WAY more important. The second one is what they are talking about when they say America is the land of the free.

Anyway, here’s the link to Amanda Marcotte, well-known good feminist and progressive liberal:
http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/pumas_are_swiftboats_darragh_murphy/

comments needed.

#212 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 12:56 pm

Fox news is has 2 men from NRA are going to spend 15 million to stop Obama on the gun bill and Govenor from Virginia and a Democratic Stratagist and and the Governor is good. They are going to use the other 25 million for Mccain

#213 prplvette85 on 07.01.08 at 12:57 pm

96 LisaNC,
have you ever lived in Texas or Indiana, I know someone by your name. just wondering if you are the same person

#214 murphy on 07.01.08 at 12:58 pm

Hey sandy #210 — send an email to marylandpuma@gmail.com
She will send you EVERYTHING you need.

thanks MP!
;-)

#215 BigCatLover on 07.01.08 at 12:58 pm

Murohy:

Where did that map upstairs come from? Is it the aol poll one or another one? Wow!

#197 mayor0102

Believe it or not Ed Schulz started out supporting Hillary, but she would not come on his show. Remember I told you that everything he does is to further his career, and he started to waiver, but not yet completely pro BO. Then he dipped his toe into the antiHillary pool and his listeners called him on not being impartial. He went ballistic and became rabidly anti Hillary, but I’m sure money from the DNC helped him along.

#216 oscarp on 07.01.08 at 12:58 pm

talking about huffingtonpost, I have noticed posts talking about *61 in not such good terms, even from Arianna, so I believe they are noticing their huge mistake. I have seen posts that perhaps a couple of weeks before would not been posted there, so something is happening !!!

#217 Huong on 07.01.08 at 12:58 pm

Now those nobama-dnc people turn to ATTACK our Murphy and her PUMA Family!!! HoHoHo… HOW STUPID nobama-dnc people ARE!
yeah, “ATTACK A WOMAN” that ALL the nobama-dnc people KNOW and KNOW NOTHING ELSE!
What else?! they think they can stop me VOTING and DONATING for our HILL or JOHN MCCAIN, huh?! FORGET ABOUT THAT!
One More Time, do you hear me, nobama-dnc: MY VOTE AND MY MONEY ABSOLUTELY 100% GO TO OUR HILLARY or SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, OK!
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER VOTE or DONATE for that nobama!

#218 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 12:59 pm

#204 MsBinMD:
And my hat’s off to you!

#219 Marjorie on 07.01.08 at 1:03 pm

#184 utahpuma

“… McCain pulled some blogsites off Google because they said bad things about Obama” …

True? I wonder if this was before or after Wesley Clarke’s remark?

#220 ClintonRules on 07.01.08 at 1:03 pm

it’s kind of like virtual warfare…they’re really trying to silence us (even moreso than before) so they must finally be realizing they’re screwed lol.

i had 20 new emails today (thought i was popular) i am…VERY popular…but my popularity attracts the wrong people lol.

One message was from a 23 year old who asked me to think of my country and not to vote for a 3rd Bush term…and thats exactly what I’m doing by voting for McCain if Hillary isn’t the nominee. I think NObama is more like Bush than McCain is. Though NObama’s certainly got Bush beat on inexperience

#221 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 1:03 pm

I have done the other letters will get right on this one Murphy asap

#222 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 1:03 pm

#150 NewOrleansPuma

Thanks for sharing, BabyBoomer Pumas are our core democrats. You do very well with the Web posting. Hope to see your posts keep coming.

#223 snowtiger on 07.01.08 at 1:04 pm

#199 Thanks mayor 0102. I’m going to start a research project on “o” and his backers.
I want to know a lot more.

#224 prplvette85 on 07.01.08 at 1:04 pm

So they are trying to cage the Puma’s huh? Like the Nazis did to the Jews? I will not be put behind a fence. Just had a thought, what if we all rented horses? lol…came in on horse back……with puma signs….how would they “round us all up”? Am I being devious? :)

#225 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 1:04 pm

Firechief #127

I’m hearing the same thing from “progressive” radio. Now they’re starting to ask questions especially this last week. All the attention is on O now. If its a choice between McCain and O, they’ll do O because they made their bed this past few months by clammering on Senator Clinto, so if they what to keep their listeners and advertisers, they’ll have to continue the O thing whether they like it or not. They moved into the fox’s den. Now they can’t get out.

#226 drbodkin on 07.01.08 at 1:05 pm

Good morning, everyone. This is my first time posting here, as normally I post on Camille424. I am looking for a little help if anyone is interested. Here’s the deal. My wife is the webmaster for several papers here in northern Minnesota. A blog was started by somebody the other day titled “why Jesus would not vote for Barack Obama”. A number of Camillians have begun to post on this blog. We have ignored the religious aspect and instead are focusing on why we just say no to *61. If anyone here would like to post it would be appreciated. My wife majored in journalism in college so they let her write articles when she wants. I am hoping that if this site is flooded by PUMAs it would put her in a position to do an article. The two papers she works for have been getting 200,000 hits per month on their website. They are also affiliated with the only daily newspaper in this region. The site is:
http://blogs.pineandlakes.com/node/96

Yesterday Camillians were having trouble registering. Here is a tip. If you visit the site and want to register do not click on the “just join the community now”. There is something wrong with the link. Instead in the upper left hand corner click on login/register. That seems to be working for folks with Internet Explorer. I have Mozilla Firefox and have had no problems.

Thanks,

#227 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 1:05 pm

Murphy: Actually, I think both updates are hilarious.
I love the red map..I am sure ShuttheFreudUp will love it …(Fractured Democrat Party Fairy tales) And this goof ball who thinks we are all GOP , Republican, Swift Boaters is truly naive. Now that is paranoia! Fine. Let these pusillanimous brains think that. I am sorry, Murphy, I am still laughing at this pitiful email…Pathetic soul.

#228 FL_Debby_Puma on 07.01.08 at 1:06 pm

Hiya Pumas…i dont login much but I do read the blog everyday…I see alot of Pumas saying they either been hacked or a virus…1 thing i learned along time ago was dont click on any links if you dont know who put them there and i wouldnt even bother with the BO people or there sites….i use multi anti spyware…if you click on a bad link it could be a password stealer/keylogger…that is how im sure people lose there accounts…Pumas your doing a great job…keep it up and Murphy your great…TY

#229 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 1:06 pm

Snowtiger #223

Go for it, tiger. Its all in the Federal Election Commissions and Huffington Post donors list. Politico is a good place to start to get the donor’s names. Most people don’t take the time.

#230 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 1:07 pm

#215 CatLover:
Very interesting, I didn’t know that Shultz was first for Hillary. I’ve seen him look like he was going to have a heart attack railing against the Clintons. He does get rabid. I truly believe that all of BO’s money is what turned the DNC against Hillary and what motivated CNN and MSNBC to support BO.
Also your point about ratings is right on. Chris Matthews is singing a completely different tune about Hillary since the primary. I think he’s trying to get a lot of his former listeners back. I’ve only watched his show a couple of times since way back.

#231 Battle for the Hill on 07.01.08 at 1:08 pm

#227 I will only click on the links if I am reasonably comfortable with the PUMA who is posting it.

#232 tree on 07.01.08 at 1:09 pm

Murphy,

Did you get to my e-mail? I just wondered if you did and if it worked, I’ve saved that video on my favs, hotmail and my yahoo. For some reason it gives me a lift in spirits when I view it, but if you feel it shuldnt be posted again thats ok too

TREE
PUMA

#233 PumaAllie on 07.01.08 at 1:09 pm

#176 Hillmania & #204 MsBinMD

I can understand that sentiment of feeling on the outside or feeling ignored, but partly I think the blog format doesn’t help the conversation in some respects,

I wonder it would be better if we could have a threaded conversation, or if it is even possible with the software.

Sometimes I have “felt on the outside” so to speak until I have posted names and tried to “Join in” a particular part of the conversation.

I agree with you it can be daunting for people who might feel they are ignored and I think we have to all try hard to notice new people or people who don’t post often - and they should know that they matter.

I think that everything any PUMA says has some merit, no matter how little input they might think at the time, as you rightly said we could miss something really important.

I felt ignored a bit at one time, but then I realised when I quoted peoples names and made more of an effort to communicate directly with individuals or on an individual issue there was a better response.

I don’t think I have said anything particularly brilliant, but I do feel more involved so that’s great! :)

Here’s another cheer for all the PUMA lurkers and posters who feel on the fringes! You rock!!!

#234 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 1:09 pm

Looks like you do allow dissent here Murphy… kudos to you… how this one sounds like the Obamatron he/she is: Remember this is how cultists behave!

Everyone take note: Cultists are fiercly fraternal. They take personal offense to any and all things critical to their brethren. They attack en masse, and will often recruit Cultists for backup whenever they need to portray the appearance of popularity. One should expect a flood of Cultist rhetoric at that point.
Pay attention everyone. This type of Cultist is among the more reasonable types. They are able to understand right from wrong, and generally are well informed and honest. The issue with this type is they are radically naive. This cultist is arguing something like: A Nazi soldier was not necessarily anti-semetic, he may have been just really proud to be German and serve in the Army. While technically true, only the most naive among us would come to the same conclusion. (ignoring Nazi conscrpits)
This is a prime example of the Cultist mentality. He/she cannot grasp anything as fact (even the obvious) unless their leader says it to be true. A Cultist can look at this video and actually be offended by the obvious. This explains why a Cultist will fall for their leader praising the public financing system, and then saying it’s fundamentally broken within a 7 month period. They will do so passionately and with a straight face, because this is a cult.

Example of Comment by obama cultist

First off, u don’t know Obama. You never been to Chicago–this is so clear due to ur ignorance on Obama’s history while working as an organizer for the Roseland Community. End of Story!
Further more, you should, 1st, tell us who u are and what have u contributed to society??? “nothing is my guess”. How can u make a serious statement when no one knows “jack” about u? what would come up if we googled u? a news article about u being busted smoking crack??? I wonder.

bigticer’s reply

Now, look how this Cultist still cannot articulate a cogent argument; even after intial criticism. He/she assumes I’ve never been to Chicago based on NOTHING; for all they know I could be blogging FROM Chicago. And, then, of course, the required childish insult; in this case “smoking crack.” To a Cultist, opposition to Obama is, by definition, ignorance.

#235 MaBe on 07.01.08 at 1:09 pm

Dear tstrainor, #175: I appreciate what you wrote to Schaller, re: his NYT article today but I really don’t think he was race-baiting or implying that Southerners are racist. After all, it’s the Obama camp that has said it wants to mobilize African-American voters in the South because of their assumption that they will vote Obama. There are certain demographics that voting analysts like Schaller look at and, indeed, sometimes the data show that certain racial/ethics group votes a certain way — thus, all the concern for the “Latino” vote by both Dems and Repubs. Remember, when Hillary repeated what a lot of political scientists said during the campaign — that Obama has a difficult time getting lower-middle class white votes — she was tagged by the media as “playing the race card,” when all she was doing was stating a voting-behavior fact that has shown up in the data.

I just want to make sure that we distinguish real race-baiting (like the Obama camp claiming that the Repubs are going to use race against him in the campaign) from a discussion of voting behavior facts. I understand your frustration, if only because it infuriates me when anybody implies that voting against Obama has anything to do with race. The Obama camp is going to do everything possible to make it seem as if that is the case. I’d just like to spend our energy targeting the real race baiters and not analysts who are just telling us how different demographic groups tend to vote. Just a thought.

Of did I miss something in Schaller’s article?

#236 Battle for the Hill on 07.01.08 at 1:09 pm

sorry, that should be #228

#237 joanna0902 on 07.01.08 at 1:10 pm

This NUT sounds scared! They know they are going to lose this battle. I don’t think they can take the pressure! lol….this is sooo funny! Wait until the NRA starts running their ads against NoBama…..Murphy, you are doing a great job with this site! Thank you so much!

#238 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 1:10 pm

BigCat #216

Yes, I do remember the whole incident of Ed Schultz really becoming angry with Senator Clinton not coming on the show. Too bad Terry McClaliff (? spell) wasn’t doing the campaign thing at that time. Terry and Ed are golfing buddies.

#239 MaBe on 07.01.08 at 1:11 pm

re #235: that should be “ethnic” groups not “ethics” — have ethics on my mind during this whole fiasco of an election…..

#240 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 1:12 pm

BMW60:
Thank you for all of the contact information.
Now it’s time to get to work sending out our letters.

#241 oscarp on 07.01.08 at 1:12 pm

my comment on pandagon,net, I have read some, typical pre-communist comments !! don’t I know them !
——————————————————–
It’s so easy, and so typical. Everything that is not politically in accordance to your opinions, is being called “racist” or “republican” I am sorry to tell you that I have always voted Democrats, that I was in New York at the RNC and participated in manyprotests, so pleas, don’t give me this childish treatment. I am no Republican, but not a Democrat either,I have decided tostay Independent, and when I was ready to change to Democrat, Mr. Obama comes with this dirty political techniques and everybody plays his game. I decided not to join the Democratic Party, but I do not consider myself a Republican. It is very simple, I do not trust Senator Obama. And it is my right as an American to dissent politically without being discriminated against, or called names. What you are doing is called pre-communism, the beginnings of censorship, of lack of political freedom, of communism, and I know a lot about it!
How do you dare to say that we, at PUMA, generate discontent? Discontent has been generated by the leaders of a PArty that has failed 18 million AMERICANS ! it is them and the presumptive candidate the ones generating division in the country, and you are playing their game! Wait until you do not agree with what they say, they will try to shut you off too !!
It’s so easy to call us Republicans, racist, or any other names you want, but at least we have the courage you lack to see and express our hearts and minds ! Freedom of speech still exists and will exist in this country, you are no one to tell me how I can think ! We won’t tolerate it.

#242 LisaNC on 07.01.08 at 1:14 pm

213 to prplvette85.

No. Only lived in CA and NC. :)

Common name tho.

Lisa

#243 zombiefortruth on 07.01.08 at 1:16 pm

Politico.com is locking HRC / PUMA supporters out, even when the follow the rules!

#244 CTKEY on 07.01.08 at 1:18 pm

Well…we have one un-happy HOUND. He should switch to decaf.

#245 CTKEY on 07.01.08 at 1:19 pm

OH…Thank you murphy…you have more patience than I do.

#246 Zee on 07.01.08 at 1:19 pm

Dear Murphy:

THANK YOU for this private forum and for keeping it strictly for PUMAs. That Obamanut has no clue. Freedom of speech AND assembly means just that. We are free to assemble and exchange ideas. We are not forced to let hecklers in.

AND THEY ARE USING POWER to shut us down. Exactly what the First Amendment is supposed to protect us from. They can spin it all they want, they are the brown shirts now.

I will certainly be contacting Rendell and the Obama camp.

#247 prplvette85 on 07.01.08 at 1:19 pm

Oh, I grew up in Cali. Lived all over the valley, and in Ventura County, hmmmm small world :)

#248 LisaNC on 07.01.08 at 1:21 pm

Eureka and Bakersfield for me.
Yes, and the internet makes it even smaller.
Thanks for your note.
Lisa

#249 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 1:22 pm

#233 PumaAllie:
Good post. This is such a fast paced site that it is sometimes hard to keep up with everything. And everyone on here is truly smart and informed on a variety of subjects. I was slightly intimidated at first then my passion for this cause and my need to get my thoughts out there kept me posting on a regular basis.
This site has really expanded my political education and is keeping me on my toes.

#250 LisaNC on 07.01.08 at 1:22 pm

Murphy,
What is your private email address?
I wanta to send a priceless picture.

Lisa

#251 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 1:22 pm

#222 SparkFor Hill: Thank you! I am, indeed, a core Democrat. Here is how much I am such: I am the very well educated daughter of a 40 year union machinist who, in addition, represented that union in contract negotiations for 30 years in the City of New Orleans. I have been involved in literal on the street politics since I was 10 years old….since now deceased (lost in plane crash in the 70s over Alaska)
Congressman Hale Boggs was running around down here in the Irish Channel and former Congresswoman
Lindy Boggs took care of him….
In addition, I am a former Hillary Rapid Responder who spent hours every day writing opposition emails and e-mail ing jerks of the day. ..I can do posts…I just have no patience with all of the other stuff. I really do need to learn how to do some more , however. I have a former student who is great at all the technical stuff. I will call him! This core Democrat wants my party back and this core Democrat, along with you,Spark For Hill, and every other Puma will get it back. I do very much appreciate your lovely comment to me, Spark For Hill. While I am here, does anybody have the “Who let the Dogs Out” recording? It was used extensively here when the Saints some years back started to do a little better. I don’t think that this was locally done, but it may have been.

#252 Zee on 07.01.08 at 1:24 pm

#234 bmw60

Murphy keeps this place troll-free, thank goodness. The only Obamatrolls here are ones who pretend they are PUMAs and then say something no PUMA would ever say, to try to make us look bad (eg, pretending that the car vandalism was a good thing).

And regarding your post…I see you quote bigticer. Look up bigticer’s youtubes. He gives a lot of good advice on replying to Obama cultists!

Maybe you already knew that!

#253 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 1:27 pm

Amanda Marcotte’s attack:

That was 8 years ago, she did not mention Murphy voted McCain to defeat Bush, and in GE, she voted for Gore. She donated to Hillary this year.

#254 Pretjene on 07.01.08 at 1:27 pm

NOW sites that were scrubbed are coming BACK up? THE LETTERS ARE WORKING!

See this on the bluelyons site:

Hi there,

On behalf of the Blogger Team, I want to apologize for the recent trouble you’ve had with your locked blog. Automated spam detection is not yet a perfect science, and although we are constantly working to improve our tools, it appears that our filters have caused some Blogger accounts to mistakenly be blocked from creating new posts.

While we are still investigating, we believe this may have been caused by mass spam e-mails mentioning the “Just Say No Deal” network of blogs, which in turn caused our system to classify the blog addresses mentioned in the e-mails as spam.

Regardless, we have restored posting rights to your blog, and it is very important to us that Blogger remain a tool for political debate and free expression.

So once again, we apologize for the inconvenience, and thank you for your patience as we looked into the problem.

Sincerely,
The Blogger Team

#255 redtumble on 07.01.08 at 1:28 pm

just read that McCain is stopping his advertising on Pro-Hillary/Nobama sites. WOW! Even he is tasting the kool-aid. What has happened to our country?

#256 Pretjene on 07.01.08 at 1:30 pm

politico.com is a rag website, I learned long ago they lean to Obama! How sad that HE is not even been elected and our Constitutional rights are turning to MUSH! I would notify Matt Druge of Druge Report and get it on O’Reilly and FOX news!

#257 nativegirl on 07.01.08 at 1:33 pm

Hello all… I just read on another puma site that people are going on youtube and tagging puma video’s as offensive to get them pulled. Does anyone know how to do this and should do the same to the pro-obama video’s?

#258 mini vee on 07.01.08 at 1:35 pm

Wow, that letter from the hound sure sounds angry. “Rape appeasing McCain”?? Wow, they must be really irked over there. Funny, I don’t remember being called a racist wh*re by a Republican during the primary for supporting Hillary. I don’t remember those old ladies telling me that it was the Republicans calling them the c-word at their caucus but by these sensitive caring Democrat lovers of Barak. Even when they try to defend their point of view, they have to hurl insults because there’s no other way they know how to fight. They just can’t believe that Dems could be so dissatisfied that we would stand up against their precious Barak and not vote for him. LOSERS.

#259 Zee on 07.01.08 at 1:36 pm

#233 PumaAllie on 07.01.08 at 1:09 pm
#176 Hillmania & #204 MsBinMD

“I agree with you it can be daunting for people who might feel they are ignored and I think we have to all try hard to notice new people or people who don’t post often - and they should know that they matter.”

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This is the FLIP side of everyone saying hello, goodbye, I’m going to run some errands, I’m going to go get a snack and then go to bed, etc etc etc.

It’s NOT exclusively friendly. It’s just plain EXCLUSIVE.

And if everyone made an EFFORT to be MORE inclusive, it would only get WORSE. We’d do nothing else here.

There is no way we can grow (providing they stop censoring this place and let Murphy access new members!) and then keep up with every single poster
in this way with this format.

However, we could have pages dedicated to those who want social interaction. I think a “newcomers” page would be AWESOME. I once was part of an online community which had one of those. It’s surprising how well the regulars kept up with it, welcomed newcomers and answered their questions.

I think a page for that would help a lot of people feel more comfortable coming in.

As far as “ignoring” — in order to get through an entire thread one must keep track of numbers, names and comments in order to reply….and the reply is MILES away from the original comment. It’s impossible to keep up. Or rather, it takes HOURS that some of us don’t always have.

Yes, a lot of good ideas get missed. But it’s ok to bring them up again.

Just jump in, and we’ll all catch up eventually…remember…we also only have so much time in order to do an action or two per day, so please continue to give input and remember some of us miss entire threads, so please repeat ideas and info as necessary.

#260 Zee on 07.01.08 at 1:39 pm

254, Thanks Pretjene!

“While we are still investigating, we believe this may have been caused by mass spam e-mails mentioning the “Just Say No Deal” network of blogs, which in turn caused our system to classify the blog addresses mentioned in the e-mails as spam.”

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Proof of Obama camp misconduct?

#261 hillaryistheone on 07.01.08 at 1:41 pm

I see a lot of new names today…Yeah!!!

Let’s go PUMAs!!!

#262 Zee on 07.01.08 at 1:41 pm

I suggest we continue to write to the Obama Campaign, Rendell, and also to news outlets, even after the PUMA blog network is restored.

We could quote the Blogger Team letter as showing the Obama tactics against organized voters.

#263 maxgrader on 07.01.08 at 1:42 pm

Hello to all; but especially to you, Murphy:

Murphy, does the word “Bedford” relate to you?

I went to the link mentioned in your post of #211. Someone there named “Andy” I think knows you personally. He/she posted your street address and town today, July 1, at 12:50. And everyone knows you live in Massachusetts.

I’m sure you haven’t allowed anything so direct a contact to your physical whereabouts. What this individual has done borders on illegal and could lead to a dangerous situation for you personally.

I’d have this nut traced and dealt with. I think the DA of your state can help in this regard.

Please pardon me alarming the group in this manner. But I wanted Murphy to know of my concerns ASAP. I’m not too sure emailing to her address is faster.

#264 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 1:43 pm

YEAAAA just love writing these letters…wow i have done 5 already and i’m Pacific time.

#265 Zee on 07.01.08 at 1:43 pm

#253 SparkForHill

Thank you for this info, even though it is NOBODY’s business how she votes.

The only Hoodwinking going on is with Obama. They should worry about their acceptance of his flipflops and quit worrying we can’t think for ourselves and have THE SAME MESSAGE as Murphy is articulating.

#266 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 1:45 pm

Well put - #204 - MsBinMd - if it were not for my resolve and my old age - I would have given up posting a long time ago - it would seem that a lot of people want to get their thoughts out and they are good - yet pass on by those others that are just as good.

So I acknowledge you as well.

#267 Zee on 07.01.08 at 1:46 pm

#263 maxgrader

Be sure to email her as well!!

#268 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 1:47 pm

Well you know there had to be a troll in here…..GROWWWLLLLLLL

#269 SparkForHill on 07.01.08 at 1:47 pm

#251 NewOrleansPuma
Wow, thank you so much. Core democratic priciples that we cherish and fight for have to be based on the core democrats, the working class people, the people of different colors…

#270 scathcart on 07.01.08 at 1:48 pm

Happy Birthday Fellow PUMA’S, I sent my letters to #61 & the dear governor Ha! also sent the faxes. I really think we have gotten to them and they are ready to implode.

#271 Henerietta on 07.01.08 at 1:50 pm

Obama’s people are just confirming that his ‘movement’ is full fo thugs and low lifes. They are the ones trying to take over the Democratic party by hook or crook.

One other thing has been confirmed in all of this: We are making an impact. The impact is real and a threat to their efforts.

I know some fervent Obamaites. They are bordering on being mentally ill. Their passion for this candidate is more like religious passion and cultish behavior than rational democratic thought. They seem to be frenzied all the time. One calls me a racist and a conservative constantly, attacks me and my family verbally in e-mails and other venues. Prior to that time we were casual friends. There was a time when I got ten or more e-mails a day castigating me for not ‘feeing the unity’ not seeing the big picture, not getting on board a winning crusade. I started using the delete button regularly.

We must prevail in getting the avenues to our work freed of this menace to our freedom.

Keep up the good work. I will help where I can.

heneri

#272 navyvet48 on 07.01.08 at 1:50 pm

This needs to be sent to all Texans. There is are important hearings on the caucus/primary season about to start in Austin.

Dear fellow Democrats,
I am pleased to inform you the first meeting of the Advisory Committee on the Texas Democratic Party Convention/Caucus System has been scheduled. Headed by Senator Royce West, this first of several meetings will convene at the Austin Community College Health Science Building, Building 9000 in the Multi Purpose Hall room 8500 in Austin, Texas on July 7, 2008 at 10:00am. The campus is located at 3401 Webberville Rd, Austin, Texas 78702.
This Committee which Senator West and I have appointed has been charged with studying the current convention/caucus system. Furthermore, based on the testimony taken at these meetings, the committee will then consider this feedback and possibly make recommendations for changes.
While all meetings will be open to the public, the first committee meeting will be limited to invited testimony only. Senator West and the Committee members wish to use this initial meeting as an informational session. They will discuss with current and former Party leaders the history and development of the current convention/caucus system.
Those wishing to participate at this meeting are encouraged to submit written testimony to the Committee, or complete an online survey, available on the Texas Democratic Party website. Additionally, there will be other hearings held in Austin and throughout the state where public testimony will be taken in order to learn about your personal experience with the convention/caucus system. Those hearings will be scheduled at a later date.
So whether it is by completing the online survey or by attending the upcoming Committee meetings, I hope you will take a moment to share your thoughts. Your feedback will play an important role as we continue to explore our current Democratic Primary process. Only by working together will we be able to grow and strengthen as a Party.
Thank you again for helping us make your Party stronger and more unified than ever before.
Your friend and fellow Democrat,
Boyd L. Richie
Chairman

#273 maxgrader on 07.01.08 at 1:52 pm

Indeed Zee. Just got through doing so.

#274 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 1:54 pm

Be back in a few have a errand to run. Welcome all new PUMAS we are so happy to see you. ((((((PUMAS))))))))

#275 murphy on 07.01.08 at 1:55 pm

Thanks maxgrader and zee.

I appreciate the support tremendously.

#276 pa dem on 07.01.08 at 1:57 pm

I just emailed the press release to my local paper (CDT). Did anyone email it to the PA papers yet? I also sent an email to Governor Rendell.

#277 MsBinMD on 07.01.08 at 1:58 pm

#233 PumaAllie

Believe me I understand. That is why I posted what I did because I have felt that way also.
I have submitted ideas with no response and then someone else posts the same thing and gets raves.
I know that I personally am going to try to be more attentive.
You are probably right that threads could eliminate problem.
With so much to address, perhaps it is coming later.
Thanks for the response.

#278 DancesWithPumas on 07.01.08 at 1:59 pm

I am Mediterranean and a bit hot headed (not to stereotype, it is just who I am). I responded to the NYT blog regarding oblahdee’s thugs shutting down website. I wish I would remind myself to wait until I calm down before posting, but it seems I am propelled and there isn’t much room for reminders in the moment. Anyway, these are my responses to the last nights blog at the NYT. (forgive the errors… my first language is graphics).

July 1st,
2008
1:39 am
The continuing thuggery of Senator Obama’s supporters on those who would disagree with them is representative of Senator Obama. How many of yesterday’s allies and potential allies has he thrown under the bus? Marching orders, direct or implied, have a tendency to travel down to the lowest common denominator.
These thugs remind me of junkies, who, thanks to Senator Obama, (who digs the hole deeper every time he opens his mouth), and the corrupted DNC/RBC that instigated the birth of PUMA, are beginning to realize that the source of their fix is diminishing. It is of a limited quantity and duration. In order to sustain their habit, they have to protect their source by removing the “obstacles” that threaten their supply.
Anyone who doesn’t support, or agree with Senator Obama, is considered an “obstacle” (although the terms Senator Obama’s addicted use are much more colorful (obscene), and must be removed, delayed, swayed, prevented from communicating, prevented from voting, prevented from thinking for themselves.
Just say “No Deal”.
— Posted by Dances

July 1st,
2008
12:27 am
Senator Obama is not living up to the expectations of Dean, Pelosi, et al; he isn’t achieving the expected numbers in the polls, nor in financial contributions; that his connections and past dealings are suspect, and his flip-flopping on issues (and I’m not talking about in the context of evolution of thought) I’m talking about changing positions on a day to day, week to week basis, depending on the group to which he is pandering).
Many of his fans have been abusive, thuggish, and vile. PUMA is growing exponentially, a very conservative estimate is 2 million online members (in just 30 days), another 7 million of Senator Clinton’s supporters will not be voting for Senator Obama either. The threat to his being not being elected in very real. His fans are now fearing that their leader will not win, and are acting out, as has been their modus operandi from the get-go.
Just as Senator Obama wouldn’t step in to help curb the sexist / mysogynist slurs, he has not stepped in to request that the miscreants among his fans act civilly. He doesn’t do it because it works for him.
If the coders and those want to terrorize and vandalize the property of others, and threaten people whose intention and votes they don’t agree with, let me just say: it doesn’t help your cause.
I agree with the poster regarding using Senator Obama’s middle name. It’s code, and it’s racist. I hold the same low opinion of people who use the C word and others terms to denigrate women. Ageist, racists, sexists, misogynists, classists, should not be cultivating these divisive attitudes. If you can’t help yourself, please just keep them to yourself. These attitudes are not helpful to out society, nor do they serve you as a human being.
If you’re upset… direct you anger towrd the DNC and the RBC, they’re the ones who broke their own rules in order to drag their selectee over the finish line.
What a mess.
— Posted by Ex-40 year Democrat

#279 Paul Joseph on 07.01.08 at 2:01 pm

I guess the PUMA movement is having a BIG effect and that’s why Obama is doing all he can to try to silence it. Don’t worry, it will blow up in his face. Yes, that AOL poll is encouraging. No Bradley Effect there at all. Now, that’s a true poll. Nobama . . .Nobama . . . Nobama!

#280 BillieJo on 07.01.08 at 2:01 pm

I faxed off the above copy from murphy and also started looking for newspapers to send them to. I emailed many on this list and the last link is to most newspaper links. The more we pump out the better chances someone in all states will be aware of what is going on, the good, the bad and the ugly.
Email as much as you can PUMAs!

Congress.org - http://www.congress.org/congressorg/info/contact.tt
MSNBC news – letters@msnbc.com
Fox news – yourcomments@foxnews.com
NBC11.com (Bay Area, California) http://www.nbc11.com/contactus/index.html
ABC News, Good Morning America, World News, 20/20, Nightline and all shows: http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3068843
ClickOnDetroit.com (Michigan) http://www.clickondetroit.com/contact/index.html
SFGate, San Francisco, Copy Desk Chief Andrea Behr,
abehr@sfchronicle.com
Contact page for all Maine newspapers: http://www.nrcm.org/newspapers.asp
New York Times: news-tips@nytimes.com

And the mother of all links to Major Daily Newspapers by state:
http://www.awolbush.com/papers.html

#281 Susie1945 on 07.01.08 at 2:02 pm

Murphy - I went to Amanda’s site - here is what I posted -

Amanda, Amanda, Amanda - I am a 63 year old, white, educated female - life long democrat until this year - while I was originally angry & bitter about the way the democratic party & the democratic national committee selected a nominee for the presidential race I have moved on sorta. I am still angry but now am part of the PUMA movement and we are protesting the 2008 selection (sorry election). If you would do a little fact checking yourself - you could find out all kinds of incredible things - like women actually got the right to vote - it’s even part of the consitution - Obama is/of the Chicago political machine (which is not clean) & you can check that out also - calling Obama immature, inadequate and unqualified is not racist - it is the truth - free speech is part of the consitution also and I can certainly exercise it - I own my vote and I will vote for whomever I please and it does not please me to vote for Obama - I have never voted for a republican in my life & have trouble with McCain because he laughed when one of his supporters asked him “What do we do about the bitch?” - Rant and rave all you want but don’t call me a republican - I am an American born & bred and I love this country and the democratic principles it stands for……………………

#282 maxgrader on 07.01.08 at 2:03 pm

Your welcome, Murphy.

By the way, my friend… when I emailed you I forgot to mention my puma name, maxgrader.

The rest of you might as well know my real name. It’s Kent.

#283 MadLogic on 07.01.08 at 2:04 pm

Hello all, some of you might worry that messages can be personal and new people to the site might feel leftout. But above all everyone is doing a good job. Can’t always agree on everything, everyday, day in day out.

I read this blog regularly, and it is different day to day. Please remember, the common goal is to NOBAMA/DNC. So if some minor things are bothering you, for the time being, if you could put it aside and focus on the PUMA goals.

Thanks Murphy for doing a GREAT job with this site, on limited resources.

#284 sychoram_in_MO on 07.01.08 at 2:09 pm

Thank you MarylandPUMA. Letters printed and I’m headed for the post office now!

#285 antifish on 07.01.08 at 2:10 pm

My letter to Ed Schultz:

Dear Mr. Schultz.

It has taken me a while to calm down enough to correspond my feelings to you. I was an avid Air America listener since its very beginning, but must confess that I stopped listening several months ago because of you and Randi Rhodes. I find it disturbing that you used your pulpit on the public airwaves to shill for Barack Obama and bash Hillary Clinton. You, Sir, did an injustice to your listeners who, based on your glowing recommendations, won’t bother to find out who Barack Obama really is or where he stands on the issues. In fact, I’d wager, Mr. Schultz, that you yourself haven’t done so. If you had, I cannot fathom that you would so vehemently tout a candidate that is so incredibly wrong for America. I won’t go into specifics on that because I’m sure it would just be a waste of my time. I can only hope that in the future, you will think long and hard about misusing your position to influence the masses. In some circles, Mr. Schultz, what you do is called propaganda.

By the way, I’d like to invite you to visit a website of which I am a member. You’ll find that we really don’t agree with you about Senator Obama and are working earnestly to prevent such a woefully unsuited candidate from ever being selected again by the machinations of party insiders.

Sincerely
xxxxxxxxxx
PUMA Democrat
http://www.blog.pumapac.org

#286 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 2:13 pm

Ok back don’t want to miss anything

#287 sarapuma on 07.01.08 at 2:13 pm

This PUMA smear needs some comments

http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/pumas_are_swiftboats_darragh_murphy/

#288 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 2:16 pm

nice letter antifish great job as always

#289 bythelake on 07.01.08 at 2:17 pm

Oh mercy me Murphy. Did you expect a “oh sweetie” letter?

Let them bark.

Like they say, their bark is worse than their bite and those people are spineless!

Bet they didn’t sign their letter either. Spineless.

#290 shampoovta on 07.01.08 at 2:18 pm

Do Democrats ever want me to vote for them ever again?

What are they doing? Are they crazy??

2+2 dose not =5 sorry no sale.

Please play again soon. Like 2012

God. get over yourself. Obama ain’t the one….

#291 Susie1945 on 07.01.08 at 2:19 pm

Pumas - Have printed out info from above and am off to fax to *61 & Rendell - added this to bottom of letter:

I am a former Life Long Democrat - since JFK - he was assassinated before I could vote for him for a second term so don’t any of you call me a republican. I own my vote and I will vote this November for whomever I please but I can tell you it will not be a vote for Obama. This is the United States of American - we have a constitution that guarantees Freedom of Speech and we are exercising it - turning a group of immature, young thugs on us will certainly not help your cause……………think about that.

xxxxxxxxxxxx
Hennepin County, Minnesota
PUMA Independent

PS The above copy of a blogger comment is one of the cleaner ones that have been posted - most of them border on pornographic…………………………

#292 MsBinMD on 07.01.08 at 2:19 pm

Zee -
#259 is great idea. Perhaps there should be a page for suggestions and then they would not get lost in the shuffle. That is what I am referring to. Important things.
Plus we could go there and see if an idea is already posted and not be repetitive.

Goalucard #266 - Thank you

#293 Kiki17 on 07.01.08 at 2:22 pm

The power of PUMA will be felt on November 4th.

#294 mcr on 07.01.08 at 2:27 pm

Hound Dog is delusional.

#295 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 2:29 pm

#284 antifish:
Wow! Excellent letter, you continue to amaze me. Would you consider writting to Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann also? Matthews continually put down Hillary during the primary but is now trying to say nice things about her but the damage has been done and it’s too late to try to make nice. Olbermann is in a class by himself. He too wouldn’t say anything bad about the Clintons at first but when he figured he’d get better ratings pandering to the moveon.org set he really slimed her during his “special comments” segments making him the worst person in the world in my estimation.

#296 ChristineRI on 07.01.08 at 2:34 pm

Not for nothing, but Obama’s followers actually think ‘The Great One’ can win this on his own. Like Obama himself, they are alienating Hillary’s supporters, Democrats and the general population. I point out to them that Obama received 17 million votes, 90% of which were pre-Rev. Wright, etc. About 140 million will vote in November, so can they really think their nastiness is going to win this?!?

#297 diva2 on 07.01.08 at 2:35 pm

#282 Maxgrader Hi! I just wanted to let you know I donated $25 to Pumas — $20 was my donation and $5 was to match your $5 should you ever decide to donate. Don’t feel pressured. Just in case you ever want to give. Glad to see your involvement.

diva2

#298 Susie1945 on 07.01.08 at 2:35 pm

Wow antifish - excellent letter - that could be sent to everyone of those talking heads that worship *61 - jeez you guys impress me - (and we’re all so illiterate & uneducated angry bitter old white trash having a great party under the bus) sorry - didn’t mean to exclude the rest of you that are partying with us - too many margaritas……………………

#299 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 2:35 pm

LOL This was in the autoresponse from the e-mail sent to BO this morning - He might want to start with looking at his own citizenship issues

Since his February 10 announcement speech in Springfield, Illinois, Barack has spoken consistently of working together to reclaim the meaning of citizenship,

#300 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 2:36 pm

#233 PumaAllie:
Great suggestion about a newcomer page.
Also, I encourage all the newbies to just keep posting and you will be heard.

#301 tree on 07.01.08 at 2:36 pm

Lisa 248

I live in Bakersfield

TREE PUMA

#302 Dreyfus3 NJ on 07.01.08 at 2:36 pm

#180 cosmeta:

What section of the paper would we put this in? I am searching cost in NJ

#303 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 2:38 pm

Murphy, you don’t have to respond to my e-mail. Silly me, I should have gone to my e-mail where the Daily Growl sent me the letters. I’ll fax them immediately! Thank you for the great work you do. I don’t know where you find the time. I have trouble keeping up with the posts, there are so many. And I haven’t been over to hcsfjm. in days and I contributed to the ad! LOL!

#304 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 2:39 pm

Just faxed my letter to Ed Rendell and BO.

#305 DancesWithPumas on 07.01.08 at 2:40 pm

As it says on the PUMA faux money:

“We are not bitter. We are informed.”

#306 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 2:41 pm

#300 Hillmania

I agree that keep posting and you’ll get a response. I try to read everything people post but it’s very difficult, and truthfully I tend to skip over the longer articles, but comments to those articles tend to be short so I read those. Then if something stands out i’ll go back and read the whole thing.

I post and often get no response and I’m good with that, I assume people are doing what I am doing.

#307 mcr on 07.01.08 at 2:41 pm

http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/mitt_romney_obama/2008/06/30/108517.html

Romney: Obama Shows ‘Frightening Naiveté’

June 30, 2008 9:29 AM

#308 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 2:44 pm

Ok i sent a e-mail to Amanda plus i went in to their blog and this is what i wrote if it was to harsh tell me and i will clean up next time.
Let me get one thing straight here. I am a PUMA and very proud of it. We grow by the minute and by the hour and by the day. We will out number all the Obamanites and as a Democrat i joined Pumapac because of the cheating ,lying and all the underminding of the Obama camp. I have refused to drink the Kool-Aid. How much do you drink a day???Obama has done nothing for this country except go to a church that spews hatred of whites and jews and hatred of America.(maybe he should move back to kenya)My Mother always told me you are who you hang with and Mr. Obama hangs with cheap thugs and terrorists and haters of America. The Democratic Party has broken Rules and ByLaws and we want the Democratic Party fixed. We will be very happy to see Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi,Harry Reid and Donna Brazil standing in line at the unemployment office.We are the young ,the old and the middleaged. We are the Teachers,Doctors,Housewives,Business owners,Steel workers and nurses we are the core of this election and we do not believe in selection.Yes I am proud to be a PUMA and I suggest you take the time to do some investigating for yourseves.You will see that this man is a empty suit of stolen issues and stolen speeches and all one liners.
sandipima

#309 Middle age female on 07.01.08 at 2:44 pm

I went over and played for awhile. http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/pumas_are_swiftboats_darragh_murphy/

#310 Maryland PUMA on 07.01.08 at 2:45 pm

Sandipuma

Check email. Works files on the way.

MarylandPUMA

#311 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 2:46 pm

was that ok or should i have not said so much??

#312 mpk on 07.01.08 at 2:46 pm

Just typed this in at pendagon-
My goodness, such intelligent people on this blog. Anyone who does not agree with your point of view is a “rat fucker”. Wow, that is insightful! The only thing less interesting and narrower than your vocabulary is your analysis of who PUMAs are. If you don’t agree with PUMAs that is fine, but please educate yourself appropriately about who we are. It is interesting to me that such “liberal” and “open-minded” people like yourselves, who I presume are supporting Senator Obama-the self proclaimed candidate of hope and change are going to great lengths to be mean spirited. To me this speaks of fear. Fear of what? Not sure? Could it be that you are afraid to really look at your “selected” candidate? Might you find that he is not who you think he is? I can guarantee that he is not. It also appears that many of you have some difficulties with feminists. Well my poor misguided people, feminists are the people who have been and are really change agents-that is why they have been open to attack-again from people who (like yourselves) are afraid. I can only encourage you to work on your thinking skills, your vocabulary and your fear. Please grow up and become responsible citizens instead of name calling goof balls.

#313 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 2:47 pm

ok and whats that??

#314 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 2:48 pm

I will check my mail now

#315 Dreyfus3 NJ on 07.01.08 at 2:48 pm

Does anyone know where Brian from Knoxville is at….I haven’t seen him post in a few weeks.

#316 Fred on 07.01.08 at 2:50 pm

Somehow I knew this internet attack was coming and I was surprised that it took a while …Obama’s surrogates using the internet to try and cripple us regular folks… Look the man has millions of dollars and his followers (as in cult) take it upon themselves to protect him. I don’t know how to say this without offending anyone, but we are very out numbered and out witted etc. Obama’s followers are die hards and they are passionate in a negative way. My gut feeling is that if it looks like Obama is not going to win, there will be trouble in the streets. I also feel that PUMA members while working very hard are also nice and civil people - not a good match for the underhanded and fanatical ways of his followers.

I for one am feeling a little “useless” these days.. What we are doing is great in the 4 weeks but it is still a drop in the bucket in mobilizing the once 18 million. Many of us are regular bloggers, we need more effective work and less chit chat talk among ourselves..

#317 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 2:50 pm

#308 sandipuma

I like it.

In his Father’s Day speech he stole his clincher from a country song. The line went something like “Any one could be a father, but it takes a man to raise a child” I don’t remember it exactly, but seriously, stealing from a country song is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

#318 Susie1945 on 07.01.08 at 2:51 pm

#315 Dreyfus - think he’s on vacation

#319 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 2:51 pm

Ok be right back will check my e-mail now

#320 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 2:53 pm

#316 Fred

Email me at dragonflypuma@gmail.com. I am trying to work on something that may interest you.

#321 Susie1945 on 07.01.08 at 2:54 pm

Pumas - was just on Heidi Li’s site - has info from Hillary’s finance director to her supporters - different link to send contributions

“This just in, literally, from Senator Clinton’s finance director to her “top” fundraisers:

In the next two weeks we are going to make a serious push in putting a dent in this campaign debt to pay off the vendors. It would help us a great deal if you would commit to raising $5,000 - $10,000 and have all of the funds collected and sent to my attention by July 11th. Contributions can be sent via mail using the attached form and should be made out to Hillary Clinton for President and sent to 4420 N. Fairfax Drive, Arlington, VA 22203 Attn; Finance. Contributions can also be made online at https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=3200. Obviously these are targets; whatever you can do to help — would be deeply appreciated.

If you have already maxed out in primary funds, you will be unable to contribute towards the debt retirement

I am going to change all retire the debt links on this page to the url above. If you too are working toward retiring Senator Clinton’s debt I urge you to use the specified link for contributions.

#322 Maryland PUMA on 07.01.08 at 2:54 pm

Welcome to all the new PUMAs I’ve seen today!

I understand your frustration with the speed of the blogs and the difficulty in tracking conversations or being ‘noticed’.

Please know that Murphy, along with several other PUMAs, are working our claws to the quick trying to keep up with this exploding movement.

Your suggestions HAVE been heard and are being addressed. Please bear with us while we’re ‘under construction’!

What may make it easier is this:

Post the Comment number and member’s name in CAPS as the first line in your comment.

If you need to find a particular entry - hit CTRL+ F on your keyboard (WIN). This will open up a search feature. Enter a word OR comment number in the box and search. Pay attention to where you are in the blog, the search is bidirectional and will search up or down from your current location.

I’ve tried, in vain, to compose a list of the ideas that fly around on the blog, and with all that I’m doing, it keeps getting pushed to the back burner. If someone could step up and volunteer to compile a list of suggestions from members, I, and many other PUMAs would be most grateful. It does not have to be formatted, and I would ask that you be open to having people email you ideas to be incorporated. We can post the list on our Action Site and update it daily or weekly.

Any takers?

MarylandPUMA

#323 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 2:54 pm

Thank you Trish and Fred we have come a long way. Never feel useless. My goodness we have grown so much can you just immagine where we will be in the next 4 weeks.

#324 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 2:55 pm

#309 middle age female - I saw your posts. ;-) I played there too and also on another site linked to it. I love being an ambassador for PUMA!

#325 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 2:56 pm

you rock, Maryland Puma!

#326 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 2:57 pm

#316 Fred

Sorry but I disagree, and to say we are outwitted is a mistake. By being friendly and not threatening the numbers here are growing, word of mouth is a huge weapon. The words do not need to be mean and nasty. After one month of PUMA, the word is out there more than ever that people do have choices and can still use these choices. Obamabot hatred and foul play has increased, in response to this, so its working, and PUMA’s will prevail. I sincerely believe that.

#327 sheila7 on 07.01.08 at 2:57 pm

#322MARYLAND PUMA
i would be willing to keep track if they could be emailed to me.

#328 sheila7 on 07.01.08 at 2:58 pm

i don’t think i could keep up on the blog and be sure that i catch everyone but my email is already out there for the flowers and i’d be glad to have them emailed to me.

#329 Headclunker on 07.01.08 at 2:58 pm

Faxes sent to Darth Rendell and Emporer Obaminator

#330 Dreyfus3 NJ on 07.01.08 at 2:59 pm

sandipuma: I liked it!

#331 BillieJo on 07.01.08 at 3:00 pm

Can anyone get into the convention in Denver, or is it now in Chicago? Do you need a ticket? Anyone here going?

#332 Susie1945 on 07.01.08 at 3:00 pm

Okay - I just clicked on contribute & it is Hillary’s site -

Contribution Details
Date: July 01, 2008 2:57 PM EDT
Contact: Sue
Amount: $20.08

Did the July 4th request of 20.08 as amount - will contribute more next week (along with the 100.00 to PUMApac for the ad)

#333 tree on 07.01.08 at 3:01 pm

248 Lisa

sorry had to reboot, takes forever, anyway just wanted to say I live in Bakersfield

TREEPUMA

#334 sheila7 on 07.01.08 at 3:02 pm

I’m glad to see so many new names on here. that is great! if you haven’t already been welcomed, welcome and jump right in.

#335 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 3:02 pm

Hi everyone I’ve tried to scan as many posts downstairs and here on the current floor :)- Welcome all new members and-HAPPY BIRTHDAY puma!- This harrassment must stop! - If they would stop and think, they would see we’re not hateful! What a difference you’ve made PUMA in just a short month. I tried to post yet again on greta, and I don’t think it went through- so I’ll post it here ina minute! Perhaps the likes of Sherron or whoever it was ( that wrote goandersen and trish) should be fighting for her grade school education “What is YOU fighting for?” —

With that being said, I really have to say though let’s be careful about spelling errors on offical PUMA things; the pumapac site still says “independants” with an a instead of an e which i’m sure is a typo– I know my syntax isn’t great etc “blush” in this forum, but I think on published website intros especially , it is important to get it correct

#336 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 3:03 pm

This is the answer i got back from Amanda wow shes not very intelligent if you ask me :)

Okay, your wanky email is only convincing me that you’re either nuts or a Republican plant. Not helping your cause one bit.

#337 sheila7 on 07.01.08 at 3:04 pm

kykitten,
i think independants is spelled with an a? i haven’t looked it up but i think it is.

#338 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 3:04 pm

and here’s my comment on greta’s site that didn’t post sigh:

to whoever was saying that PUMA was sending out photoshopped pictures of the little Obama girls, you are sadly mistaking– how insulting to spread such lies! none of the daily growls have included such rubbish- and in fact, the comment section hasn’t either! If you looked at our comments, you would see we’re an educated , civil well-intended group of people ( not just women). I just find it laughable that you call PUMA hateful? Call the kettle black much? You act as if we don’t have the right to protest in a democratic country? This is how we felt, when you acted as if it were un-American to vote for any candidate other than your savior. And apparently you were more angry at democrat HRC supporters than anyone else. Your candidate and campaign tactics have succeeded in causing a bigger divide which I find ironic given all the unity mumbo jumbo. We certainly can protest peacefully, and we don’t take kindly to censorship and harrassment by hateful whoever you are Obama supporters- Hopefully you are not affiliated w/ the official campaign in any way, and I hope that BO will denounce your actions. They are unconsitutional as well as pure thuggery. The threats and harrassment has to stop. We’ve done nothing but play nice and try to make our pts in a peaceful and persistent way.

#339 MsBinMD on 07.01.08 at 3:05 pm

#322 Maryland Puma -

I suggested it earlier. I’ll take it if no one else wants to do it.
Lets discuss
email :
msbinmd@gmail.com

#340 sheila7 on 07.01.08 at 3:06 pm

ky kitten
i just looked it up and i think you’re right. i thought i saw that in that setting it was spelled with an a but i can’t find reference to it.

#341 ClintonRules on 07.01.08 at 3:07 pm

So…I’m guessing Donna Brazile didn’t listen when her mama was teaching her to play by the rules. And she must have been thinking about something else when she was being taught to stand by her word (which reminds me, when can we expect to see that letter of resignition??) lol.

Who put Coward Dean where he is anyway?
I wonder if everything thats been happening is only about money…

Lets see:

-IF NObama were to (shudder!) become President, he would have been put there by people who seem to have their own agendas…he won’t have any idea what he’s supposed to do so he’ll follow their orders. He’ll be doing their bidding so to speak.

-As for Pelosi: One reason she “didn’t know” about the sexism is probably because the first female President trumps first female speaker of the house.

-Coward Dean and Kerry (and Edwards and quite possibly Gore) are for NObama (I believe) as a sick method of getting back at the Clintons for one reason or another (though Gore shouldn’t have anything to really be upset about…)

-As for Brazile…I think it’s obvious she’s looney…

This is all becoming one huge conspiracy…I kind of wonder if this is (in a way) what the people in Zimbabwe are going through…there are eery similarities. Like the spokesperson for Mugabe saying those who oppose should “go hang.” Whereas over here: anyone who opposes is called “racist.” Though they’re getting violent over there…we haven’t…yet.

Not saying PUMAS are going to get violent, but NObama’s followers seem to be getting that way.

#342 Fred on 07.01.08 at 3:09 pm

Maryland PUMA - you have emailed me before. My husband is very good at graphics/radical or otherwise and websites, banners etc.. He works for me - I can get anything you want done - quickly !

#343 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 3:09 pm

@sheila7 do you think? — I could have sworn it was an e (like in independence , but it should be “dance” of freedom right :)), and couldn’t find any spellings googling of it with an “a”- but maybe there’s an alternate spelling for political purposes that I’m unaware of at this time– sorry I cringe, when i see you’re and your , their/they’re lose/loose spelling wrong, that i may be oversensitive on those issues- I do apologize, if I overreacted.

#344 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 3:10 pm

I have a serious question: Can Hillary choose Bill as her VP, if she wishes.

#345 Maryland PUMA on 07.01.08 at 3:11 pm

#342 FRED

You know……..I wufffffffff you!

That’s puma for love ya!

#346 goandersen on 07.01.08 at 3:12 pm

340 Sheila7
Isn’t “Independant” the french spelling?

#347 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 3:12 pm

@sheila7 thanks so much! i was second guessing myself there for a minute :) I posted something downstairs about it, but nobody said anything. So I thought maybe i was indeed wrong about the spelling.

#348 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 3:12 pm

#310 MARYLAND PUMA if you e-mailed it to AOL i lost my AOL remeber they took my account away for two lousy words. It is sandi1wiz@NetZero.com and i do not like netzero it is slow and i lose everything GRRRRRRRRRRR

#349 StarDust on 07.01.08 at 3:13 pm

What a fabulous update to walk into today. Way to go Ms. Murphy – hit em with facts, expose these cowards for what they are. What a stupid mistake. Why are these guys trying to hide behind email and ip addresses against Web techies? Ha Ha …Don’t mess with a Puma.

Growl… hisssss…swipe

#350 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 3:14 pm

@336 what valid pts Amanda makes- eye roll! That’s all she has ? wow

Thank you to Murphy and bmv60 for the youtube links about talking w/ an Obama supporter. I am going to watch them now. I like how the radio host on WILK said PUMA votes their conscience–

#351 BillieJo on 07.01.08 at 3:15 pm

Trish, I think a candidate could choose anyone they want that is a US registered voter, but it would be a downgrade for him to be VP after being Prez. Beside, he is always her main counsel.

Anyone going to the convention?

#352 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 3:15 pm

Sent letters

see below - Article @ http://www.democracynow.org

Protesters At DNC In Denver To Be Fenced In
More information has been revealed about Denver’s plans to control protesters during the Democratic National Convention in August. Local and federal officials are setting up a so-called public demonstration zone that they plan to fence off with chicken wire or chain link. The American Civil Liberties Union has criticized the plan comparing it to the set up in Boston during the DNC in 2004 when the protest zone was inside a cage.

#353 Maryland PUMA on 07.01.08 at 3:16 pm

#327 SANDIPUMA
#339 MSBINMD

Mwah! to both of you! It would be great if both of you could do this…..that way neither of you is tied to blog watching and email fielding. Can you two figure out a system that works best for both of you? I will email each of you the other’s email address, if that’s ok.

::Big puma sigh of relief::

#354 BillieJo on 07.01.08 at 3:16 pm

Growl… hisssss…swipe

Love it!

#355 sheila7 on 07.01.08 at 3:17 pm

#346 goandersen
i think it is the french spelling and maybe that’s what i was thinking, i took french for 5 years in school, many years ago and maybe that was stuck in my head. lol

#356 FL_Debby_Puma on 07.01.08 at 3:17 pm

348…Aol took your account?

#357 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 3:18 pm

#351 BillieJo

Thanks

#358 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 3:18 pm

Antifish #285

#359 sheila7 on 07.01.08 at 3:19 pm

#353marylandpuma
i think you meant sheila7, not sandipuma?

go ahead and give msbinmd my email address- that is fine

#360 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 3:19 pm

3269 SPARKFORHILL: You have concluded correctly! Core Democrats have been disenfranchised. But when these core Democrats are disenfranchised the very core of the Democratic Party, the tradition and principles upon which this party has existed during its entire existence are also disenfranchised. In the old days…(the 60’s) the word was “Power to the People”. A reform came in after in the party. Now some of these very people have become what we called then”the Establishment.”… Anyway, you and I and all Pumas and all Democrats who understand what has happened will continue to continue to continue until, as far as I am concerned, I am no longer on this earth! You younger Pumas have a cause of a lifetime…I know you, we, all of us will prevail.

#361 queen81 on 07.01.08 at 3:20 pm

Trish

In theory I believe she can. It opens a can of worms in the fact that if something happened to her he would become president. But he wouldn’t have been elected president so technically that wouldn’t violate the two term limit. I can tell you that it’s never been done before, a former president becoming VP

#362 MsBinMD on 07.01.08 at 3:20 pm

#353 Maryland PUMA

Works for me!

#363 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 3:20 pm

@goandersen and sheila7 oh that must be it; shows what my high school French did for me- I forgot that.

#364 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 3:20 pm

Antifish #285

Great Letter. Agree completely! You know what Ed Schultz will do, don’t you? He becomes the victim and cries how he is getting bombarded. Good luck. Maybe you can get through to him.

#365 Maryland PUMA on 07.01.08 at 3:21 pm

SANDIPUMA

Yep - wrong edress. Have sent to new one and changed info in addy book.

Great job on the flowers, by the way, I was too broke to contribute so I just sent good wishes vibes her way.

MarylandPUMA

#366 AniEm on 07.01.08 at 3:22 pm

#309 Middle Age Female

Thank you for the link to pendagon. I posted the following:

You suspect that PUMA is some kind of Republican plot? You’re overly suspicious. See a therapist.

The Republicans are going to sit back, relax, and laugh while watching Obama-nation self-destruct. That’s why we supported Hillary; she knew what she was up against and had the strength of mind and character to counteract it.

Or, they may let Obama win because he will provide gainful employment to lots of Republican lawyers eager to investigate his associates. They’re in a win-win situation with this candidate.

Despite tough guy rhetoric and the thug behavior of O’s supporters, you guys are babes in the woods.

#367 Fred on 07.01.08 at 3:23 pm

I am going to a show in Atlanta soon… Perhaps 70,000 attendees… I need to use this traffic to put some flyers out.. If any PUMA can get to downtown Atlanta, let me know… I can get you badges to get in to put out flyers… or you can contact me to get details.. we need big crowds to maximise time and exposure. If a PUMA has time and energy but no money for Puma activity, contact me… Please let this be legit because I will check it out with Maryland PUMA or Murphy.
agathalewis@gmail.com No, I am not Agatha Lewis either.

#368 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 3:23 pm

@360NOLApuma , i just wanted to say from downstairs i loved your idea about sending lint for the warm and fuzzy! i Just wonder if it would be looked up as a foreign substance or something and be investigated? as in anthra* scare etc or something? i don’t know….

I agree it’s been pretty disheartening to watch hardcore/core long time dems especially be thrown under the bus of all people sigh.

#369 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 3:23 pm

To All PUMAS

Attention: Now Obama wants to give more money to “faith-based” organizations. Search today’s news. There seems to be some strings attached, but I think its ABC and the Obama campaign who are trying to work out who said what. I’m very much into Christianity, but I’m also very much into keeping church and state separate. I support people determining their own faith and beliefs or none. That is so personal. But O is trying to capture votes. Someone needs to research his background on this issue. Anyone have any insight?

#370 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 3:25 pm

#361 queen81

Thanks, it’s a question I’ve thought of often.

#371 antifish on 07.01.08 at 3:25 pm

OK, to everyone who addressed me, I was not ignoring you, just had to take a phone call.

#288 Sandipuma,

Thank you, and your comment was not at all too long. I’m so happy that we have bloggers like you out spreading our positive message. :)

#295 Hillmania,

Thank you, and I’d be honored to contact Mr. Matthews and Mr. Olbermann. I’ll get right on it!

#298 Susie1945

Thank you as well. :)

#312 mpk

Great comment! Way to tell them where we’re coming from.

#315 Dreyfus3,

Yes, I believe as someone else stated, Brian Knoxville is on vacation. I miss him too. :)

#372 scathcart on 07.01.08 at 3:26 pm

I found another web site someone may be interested in It is the orginization of black republicans and they are going after #61 throwing the kitchen sink at him. They are launching 3 radio ads in the states OB hopes to win. They are not being very nice. burningcane.org if anyone is interested. Well off again, still surfing the web. Oh, and welcome back cosmeta.

#373 goandersen on 07.01.08 at 3:27 pm

355.363 sheila7/KYkitten
I don’t speak, write or read french. I just looked it up on my dashboard dictionary. I can’t take credit.

#374 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 3:28 pm

#315 Dreyfus

Didn’t Brian change his user name?

#375 sheila7 on 07.01.08 at 3:28 pm

goandersen- LOL you can take credit for looking it up though!

#376 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 3:28 pm

#371 antifish:

I hope it’s alright that I copied and pasted your letter on Hillaryvillagers.com giving you full credit of course.

#377 sheila7 on 07.01.08 at 3:29 pm

msbinmd
i just emailed you

#378 tree on 07.01.08 at 3:29 pm

Ok here goes and please dont laugh, please what does drink the Kool-aid mean, I should know this being 52 yrs but I dont know

TREEPUMA

#379 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 3:30 pm

Sigh the downside to all of this is that some of my diehard Repub friends in the past who wouldn’t dare send me Clinton hating emails etc are now sending things to me. Some of them are emails I don’t wish to read etc offensive etc , and it makes me a little sad now I’m aligned in some way w/ them. Or so they think, because of my stand in PUMA. I have other dear friends that are BO fans, and they are lovely people cool w/ my choice etc and wouldn’t send these types of emails. It is hard to get unified darn it lol. Any suggestions? I mean I never thought I’d be forced to watch Fox news as the most balanced coverage on this sigh.

#380 kids1627 on 07.01.08 at 3:30 pm

If he wants your vote he panders if you are not buying what he has to say he sends his tugs out after you this is his pattern the media calls it his rapid responders I call it hate crimes against Democrats and independents who won’t drink from his KOOl-Aide, and can the media give him any more free time every speech he gives is just so important .

#381 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 3:31 pm

Tree #378

I don’t know where Kool-aid started, but it means anything and everything that the “cult” believes about Obama. You drink it, you believe it :-)

#382 Fred on 07.01.08 at 3:31 pm

Look - we all have jobs. I am on the West coast and by the time I am off work most people are off line. so posting will not get read… I stay up till 2, 3 am but Murphy has not done her daily “header” so I can’t post.
I am dying here, trying to steal time off during the work day - well , I’m the boss but still so much work.. But my point is, if there is someone you know you can hire - that is not in the PUMA pool that can volunteer, let me know too.
It is time to hire professional help.

#383 antifish on 07.01.08 at 3:32 pm

#376 Hillmania,

Of course it’s OK. Actually, I’m flattered! :)

#384 Maryland PUMA on 07.01.08 at 3:32 pm

Ohhhk. Can you tell I’ve been up all night? :)

That would be SHELIA7 on the flowers and Suggestion list with MsBinMD and SandiPUMA on the Works files.

Thank you for pointing out I got my s’s mixed up. :)

Can I start over? LOL

Maryland PUMA

#385 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 3:34 pm

@378 We’re not laughing tree and welcome :)- It’s a reference to the cult like following– drinking the koolaid goes back to the Jim Jones thing- here’s the entry from wiki on the origina of “drinking the koolaid” hth :) I think the entry should have an Obama reference added though :)

The earliest known use of the term in its figurative, non-literal context (that is, outside of descriptions of people actually drinking real Kool-Aid), is from a 1987 quote about former Washington, D.C., mayor Marion Barry in the Washington Post.[2]

The term is derived from the 1978 cult suicide in Jonestown, Guyana. Jim Jones, the leader of the Peoples Temple, convinced his followers to move to Jonestown. Late in the year, he then ordered his flock to commit suicide by drinking grape-flavored Flavor Aid laced with potassium cyanide. In what is now commonly called the “Jonestown Massacre”, a large majority of the 913 people later found dead drank the brew. (The discrepancy between the idiom and the actual occurrence is likely due to Flavor Aid’s relative obscurity, compared to the easily recognizable Kool-Aid.) The precise expression can be attested in usage at least as early as 1987.[3]

The saying “Do not drink the Kool-Aid” now commonly refers to the Jonestown tragedy, meaning “Do not trust any group you find to be a little on the kooky side,” or “Whatever they tell you, do not believe it too strongly.”[4] Fox News commentator Bill O’Reilly is famous for using the term in this manner.[5]

Having “drunk the Kool-Aid” also refers to being a strong or fervent believer in a particular philosophy or mission — wholeheartedly or blindly believing in its virtues.[6][7]

This expression is often inaccurately assumed to be derived from the activities of the Merry Pranksters, a group of people associated with novelist Ken Kesey[citation needed] who, in the early 1960s, traveled around the United States and held events called “Acid Tests”, where LSD-laced Kool-Aid was passed out to the public (LSD was legal in the U.S. until 1966). Those who drank the “Kool-Aid” passed the “Acid Test.” “Drinking the Kool-Aid” in that context meant accepting the LSD drug culture, and the Pranksters’ “turned on” point of view. These events were described in Tom Wolfe’s 1968 classic, The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. However, the expression is never used figuratively in the book, but only literally; therefore, the book is not the origin of the ter

#386 sheila7 on 07.01.08 at 3:34 pm

marylandpuma
lol i know the feeling. no problem and thanks. i hope hillary appreciated the flowers and the warm wishes, i’m sure she did.

#387 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 3:36 pm

sorry i am back neighbour again at my door.I live in a singles complex

#388 LisaNC on 07.01.08 at 3:36 pm

#301 Tree,
Thanks for the note on Bakersfield.
I know we have many puma’s there.

#389 kids1627 on 07.01.08 at 3:36 pm

Kool -aide Jim Jones south Africa A cult leader in the eighty’s who got his whole cult to drink Kool -aide laced with arsnic and it killed them all men, women and children he was from America but took his cult to southAfrica . arsnic not sure of sp

#390 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 3:37 pm

Fred #382

I’m on the west coast, too, but I’m not working during the summer. I have the same problem with the posting. There’s a whole other world on the post at night at times. That’s why I wish we had more regional connection. Some areas have been doing just that, but in the Pacific NW, we are scattered and few. The area is heavy into O and its hard for us PUMAs out here not only in time but politically. Its almost like we need another moderator out here. No offense to MURPHY and we can’t clone her :-)

#391 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 3:37 pm

sorry tree– i should have jus tput the wiki link on there ugh that was long :(

#392 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 3:38 pm

#338 Maryland Puma bless your heart and i’m sure you are exhausted

#393 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 3:38 pm

Kids #389

Thanks for the history lesson. How could I forget that mess????

#394 BigCatLover on 07.01.08 at 3:38 pm

So many good letters on here today - too many to list names individually, but I read each one and marvel that some of you are so good at hitting all the pertinent points. And that’s what counts, the calmer the better. Thanks.

#395 kids1627 on 07.01.08 at 3:39 pm

I knew it was something close to that I should have googled

#396 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 3:39 pm

KyKitten #385

Thanks for the explanation. I’m keeping a copy of your definitions of Kool-Aid.

#397 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 3:40 pm

wow i am so glad to see so many PUMAS and welcome to all new PUMAS

#398 antifish on 07.01.08 at 3:40 pm

Mayor0102,

I read about the Obama faith-based proposals too. I have very strong feelings about this and, if I was an Obama supporter, this issue would make me change my mind. It was something that just incensed me with the Bush administration. Of course, I’m a very strong advocate of separation of church and state, but it goes much deeper than that. As a gay person, the thought of my taxpayer money going to the very groups who are most responsible for the suppression of my rights as a human being, regardless of the purpose, just infuriates me almost beyond reason. That Obama now chooses to go down this road to pander for votes, well, what can I say? I’m just speechless.

#399 Fred on 07.01.08 at 3:41 pm

MARYLAND PUMA :
I posted this yesterday but it was late so most PUMA’s did not see it… I want to post it again below..

Obama is reaching out to International countries to garner support for himself.. it gives him further credibility if he is well received or has bragging rights to those countries..

A lot of international folks know Hillary Clinton - this Big Ear’d buffoon is just now trying to get International leaders to know him - well, his own country doesn’t even know him.

I can get a few people from China, Malaysia, Singapore, UK, France to write in what they have to say about Hillary Clinton or support her or the merits of having a woman as President. I know there are some PUMA’s from Spain…

It would give us some International credibility. Of course we would let them sound off objectively.

I think this is very important… to have an International voice too.

#400 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 3:42 pm

Last night was such a treat as we had 2 new PUMAS 18 years old join and their names were piepiepie and matt and very nice and smart about election .

#401 Peggy Sue on 07.01.08 at 3:42 pm

That cute little email is certainly the pot calling the kettle black. The Obamatrons are crawling out the walls right now. I’m very troubled that sites are being blocked or blackballed, accused of “defaming” Barack Obama’s reputation [what reputation would that be?] and carrying on like a bunch of nasty Frat boys. Even more distressing is learning of physical harrassment, sickening telephone calls and deliberately publishing personal information [addresses, telephone numbers, etc] to the net, which is a safety issue before anything else.

It’s amazing to me that these thugs cry foul with any and all criticism of their Annoited One, but have no trouble calling PUMAs and any other diverse political stand as vile and traitorious.

This will not win votes. This will not make people stay home in November. I have many problems with John McCain and his policies. But I would vote for him in a heartbeat over these morons, who apparently feel intimidation, threat and open hostility is something called Unity.

Think again, Obamatrons! And go buy a dictionary.

#402 tree on 07.01.08 at 3:43 pm

Trish, now that would be a ticket worth fighting for, I wonder and hope if that is possible, both Clintons running this country would bring us back to the greatness we once were.

TREEPUMA

#403 LisaNC on 07.01.08 at 3:44 pm

Murphy,

I sent you a couple of pics at
murphy@pumapac.org.
I hope you see them.
Lisa

#404 sarapuma on 07.01.08 at 3:45 pm

In addition to Jim Jones, “drinking the koolaide” can be a reference to the LSD-laced loolaide served at The Electric Koolaide Acid Test parties hosted by Ken Kesey, featuring The Grateful Dead and Chronicled by Tom Wolfe in the book of that title

#405 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 3:47 pm

Ok now lets see if i have any more letters to write everytime i alk away from the computer i come back and there is always something new lol I LOVE IT

#406 bythelake on 07.01.08 at 3:48 pm

AWESOME AWESOME VIDEO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9IkEoce3xY

Can’t paw with US PUMAS!

#407 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 3:49 pm

Fred #399

Agree with the international voice. My friends in Germany and all the papers in that area were widely accepting of Hillary as President. Many of the articles that were read to me by my neighbors were very dismissive of Obama. I kept blogging those very messages when I was on Hillary’s site, but no one in her campaign seemed to be interested in the international theme. O has no credibility overseas at all. And now he wants Robert Gates as his Secretary of Defense????? (for donation purposes from Gate’s big donors). The U.S. has been getting laughed at overseas during this whole primary. We’re just going from bad to worse. With the gaffs O has already made from day to day, can you imagine how bad it will be overseas. They’ll see right through him.

#408 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 3:49 pm

I am thrilled to see young PUMA voters here welcome welcome Matt and piepiepie who have probably been here longer than me at least on the site but not on the earth :)– It would be really interesting to get your take of the election talk in college /high school culture?– - I am 33, so I was voting for BC in 92 at 18 :)

#409 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 3:49 pm

I’ve faxed the letters to Obama but signed “Name Withheld to Protect Security,” and Pelosi (changed a few words to make it right). Have been trying for an hour to fax Rendell but it comes back NG. I faxed to my brother and it did the same thing and he said it was because he was out of paper. Rendell’s machine is being overtaxed and out of paper!! I love it. I’ll do it later tonight and hope it goes thru. I’m also going to fax another letter to Pelosi about the vandalism and the monstor she and the DNC created with their selection of the empty suit. Murphy, is it o.k to use the Puma logo when doing my own personal letters or is that only for letters you personally approved for this website only? Let me know as I don’t want to use the logo if I can’t.

#410 queen81 on 07.01.08 at 3:49 pm

Antifish

couldn’t agree more. I added a personal note to the end of my letters this morning saying that i was saddened as a lesbian to have the right of free speech taken from me. I live in SC and cannot get married, my employer can fire me just because I’m gay. I told them that I am already treated as a second class citizen and taking free speech away makes me a third class citizen. I also have issues with my tax payer money going to churches.

#411 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 3:50 pm

Antifish #398

Yep! We haven’t seen the last of baaaaaaaad.

#412 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 3:51 pm

I WAnt To Ask A Question. I would like to write a letter to President Clinton. I know Dr. Lynnette Long did. How would i find a link with a e-mail or contact in it to do this.LOL

#413 BillieJo on 07.01.08 at 3:51 pm

KYKitten, don’t worry about fitting in to an exact group. About the only thing we all have in common is that we all adore Hillary and are against what the DNC and media have done to this election. Lots of people here will vote for McCain just to prove a point and some actually like him. Others are trying to find a way to make a write in vote for Hillary legitimate. I on the other hand do not like BO, but I refuse to ever vote Republican because I do not believe in their policies or goals. So I will vote for BO if he appoints Hillary to a powerful position in his cabinet , but will not vote if he doesn’t. I am essentially voting for her. Others will vote for a third party. All of us start at the same point but end up protesting in the way we feel most comfortable with.

#414 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 3:52 pm

I do not want to see him even 10 yards of obumbus

#415 sheila7 on 07.01.08 at 3:52 pm

i just read an interesting article. it said that on Bill and Hillary’s wedding cake there were pale yellow roses on the icing. how ironic that we chose yellow roses for her and I for one did not know that. just thought i’d pass that along. :)

#416 Fred on 07.01.08 at 3:53 pm

Hey Mayor 0102 -

So… you have the summer off… we need you SO MUCH !! You can do so much “under the table” or off hours… PLEASE…. show off to us,, what you can do even in the Pacific NW where life is too peaceful.

I will be the first to admit, we can’t please everyone even on this PUMA site, we just have to grin and bear it and do what we can for the greater good of our country and Hillary (for me).

I have so many emails to send, I don’t have enough time. Even 100 emails at a time will take a while without jamming my server.

#417 Pookie on 07.01.08 at 3:53 pm

To my dear PUMA friends, something to think about:

We have enemies? Good , that means we have stood up for something!

#418 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 3:53 pm

To All PUMAS and New PUMAS,

This blog is sooooooo cool today. Lots of ideas, sharing, humor, productivity, and wonderfully newsy.

#419 antifish on 07.01.08 at 3:54 pm

#410 queen

What a great idea. Wish I’d thought to do that. It is very important that we of the LGBT community let ourselves be heard.

#420 tree on 07.01.08 at 3:55 pm

Mayor, KYKitten, and Kids, thank you very much, now I dont feel as if I’m in the dark, thank you

TREEPUMA

#421 jane-pa on 07.01.08 at 3:56 pm

hi all question has anyone sent an email to Dean saying this is exactly what me mean by interferience with campaigns? Would it do any good link it to Hillarys times they messed her up? Just a thought . What do you all think?

#422 jane-pa on 07.01.08 at 3:56 pm

maybe send him a copy of this email Murph got so he cannt ever say he didnt know wht was happening?

#423 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 3:57 pm

Good Letter ending #410 Queen81

#424 diva2 on 07.01.08 at 3:57 pm

#372 scathcart I posted the link for a group like that. Was it http://www.nbra.info? This is a simillar site if not the one you listened to and they have some excellent points. If anyone gets a chance, they have some great info and blasts noname’s voting record.

Yahoo PUMAS!!!

#425 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 3:58 pm

@413 BillieJoe thanks soooooooooooooo much :) :):) — This really helps and makes me feel much more settled and more motivated in our goals at PUMA–I feel as you do in many ways. Of course I still want to defend Hillary and Bill from the old days, when they did nothing to deserve the hatred treatment they received by many.

#426 Fred on 07.01.08 at 3:59 pm

Mayor 0102

Lets take matters into our own hands and get some international flavour into this BLOG. Anything we see come in, we can copy ,paste and note blog # and date and compile a list for Murphy or Maryland PUMA to put into a INTERNATIONAL SUPPORT page.

Come on Mayor… do it… you and me !! Any one else that have friends, relatives, workers, strangers in foreign lands…contact them and ask them how they would like to see a woman like Hillary lead the country. Let them have a voice in this.. I am sure they Like the Clintons… Oh, I will add Vietnam too… I have suppliers there..

#427 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:00 pm

Fred #416

Yep, the whole summer with pay :-). But I work my tail off the rest of the year. I’ve been doing a lot of PUMA work locally and getting “slammed” by the local Demos. I have a lot of chunks of fur taken off my PUMA hide. In one breath they tell me I’m respected and in the next breath they slam me personally. Sound familiar?????? It’s the “cult” speaking. Haven’t had any PUMAs surface yet that are welling to join me? In the meantime I plaster the area with fliers and send letters of reply to those who slam me. Just sent a letter to one person in the local democratic women’s club who was less than polite. The letter contained parts of George Washington’s farewell address in 1796 when he warned the populous about political parties and there possible dangers. Just think, 1796 and 2008, not much has changed. :-)

#428 Pookie on 07.01.08 at 4:01 pm

I just posted something, but I hit submit before I was through, maybe this is better because it is another thought that we need right now:

Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it

#429 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 4:01 pm

If no one has the answer i will e-mail Lynnette Long

#430 IndyPUMA on 07.01.08 at 4:01 pm

Hey PUMAs… Don’t forget.

http://www.myspace.com/PUMAPAC

Talking point from the other side.
http://www.redstate.com
http://www.thenextright.com

Talking points from our side.
NoQuarterUSA
RiverDaughter
Heidi Li’s blog
Denver Group
Camille424

amongst many many others.

Have fun ont his blog
TaylorMarsh

Don’t forget to bring one person a day. :0)

#431 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:02 pm

Oops, my spelling-ugh. #427

welling should be willing
there should be their

#432 Fred on 07.01.08 at 4:02 pm

International Support : We can make a simple template indicating their name or initials and their country and their comment. Our email to our international friends can be generic.. we don’t want to get into the DNC. Just ask if they would like to see Hillary Clinton or a Hitlerish Obama to be a friend of their country. Ha !!

#433 antifish on 07.01.08 at 4:02 pm

#422 jane-pa,

I think it’s a good idea to keep Dean in the loop. He needs to know what the followers of his selectee are up to.

#434 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 4:03 pm

@417 good pt Pookie– It is like they say it takes more energy to hate than not care- So I guess being hated means they’ve noticed us obviously , and they’re putting energy into fighting us off!

@406bythelake– that video is simple but effective- I love the imagery of the puma paws stomping over BO like that simple but strong– Which PUMA made this video may I ask? Thank you

#435 diva2 on 07.01.08 at 4:03 pm

#412 sandipuma. Hi, there were a few links in the past couple of days. One was to his foundation and beleive there was another one. If no one can readily give you the answer I will go back and look.

I have finally decided to start adding specific links to my favorites list and am setting up a file for each subject. For example, one might be “Links of Senator Clintons platform” or “arguments against *61’s platformm.” I JUST started doing this and wonder why I didn’t do this months ago! Hindsight is 20/20.

#436 antifish on 07.01.08 at 4:03 pm

#429 Sandipuma,

Hang on a minute. I’ll get it for you.

#437 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:04 pm

Fred #426

Okay, Fred. I’m willing to work on it. Get my gmail from Murphy.

#438 Middle age female on 07.01.08 at 4:04 pm

I think I would be very careful using the phrase “the pot calling the kettle black”. IMHO

#439 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 4:04 pm

@438 eek pt well taken

#440 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 4:05 pm

Well last night i sent a letter to the news paper in London about President Clinton saying Obumbus can kiss my a$$ and i told them how everything went from the first debate and up to what is happening now and about us PUMAS

#441 utahpuma on 07.01.08 at 4:05 pm

So first we pander to the AA community,
then we pander to the young elitist group
then we pander to the gay community
then we pander to women
then we pander to religious groups
now we pander to the international community,
I don’t think I’ve missed any, but who knows
So who’s left to pander to? Ya gotta love it!!!!!

Obvioulsy we are hitting the mark with these guys or they wouldn’t be so doggone (no pun intended) set on shutting us up. Of course, we know that won’t and can’t happen! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

#442 BillieJo on 07.01.08 at 4:06 pm

KYkitten, yes, Hillary is my real objective in this race, what ever will help her and give her the most ‘power’ to move forward with her agenda is my goal.

I adore the big, bad dog too. McCain and BO are just small pawns in my book. The DNC is just a small group of dilberts that think they can decide the next President along with the SuperDelegates, made to over-ride the votes of the people.

#443 scathcart on 07.01.08 at 4:06 pm

#424 diva2. I don’t know if it is the same or not. The one that I saw was Burningcane.org. They do have some great comments and talking points being made. I just came across it yesterday, haven’t really been back there today. I will check out your site though.

#444 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 4:06 pm

We can send Letters all over Europe.

#445 antifish on 07.01.08 at 4:06 pm

#429 sandipuma,

Here is the contact webpage:

http://www.clintonfoundation.org/contact.htm

#446 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:07 pm

Fred #432

I’ll probably have more time after the holiday. Keep in touch. Template sounds good. Do you have Excel?

#447 Dreyfus3 NJ on 07.01.08 at 4:07 pm

#351 BillieJo:

I am thinking of going….of course I told my husband to have bail money just in case….#61 has more tricks under his sleeve.

I am in NJ.

#448 Beca4Hillary on 07.01.08 at 4:07 pm

Okay Obambi, got you on this one! Hillary was going to fight for us, YOU ARE A TOTAL FRAUD AND A LIAR!

Obama’s for Equal Pay, Yet Pays Female Staffers Less Than Males
Against Obama June 30th, 2008 Barack Obama, News

By Fred Lucas

CNS NEWS - While Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has vowed to make pay equity for women a top priority if elected president, an analysis of his Senate staff shows that women are outnumbered and out-paid by men.

That is in contrast to Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s Senate office, where women, for the most part, out-rank and are paid more than men.

Obama spoke in Albuquerque, N.M. last week about his commitment to the issue and his support of a Senate bill to make it easier to sue an employer for pay discrimination.

“Mr. McCain is an honorable man, we respect his service. But when you look at our records and our plans on issues that matter to working women, the choice could not be clearer,” Obama told the audience in New Mexico, a voter-swing state. “It starts with equal pay. Sixty-two percent of working women in America earn half or more than of their family’s income. But women still earn 77 cents for every dollar earned by men in 2008. You’d think that Washington would be united it its determination to fight for equal pay.”

He continued, saying that he is proud to have supported the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act, which would extend the limit on how long an employee can wait before suing an employer for pay discrimination.

The legislation was named after Lilly Ledbetter, who was a supervisor at Goodyear Tire & Rubber’s plant in Gadsden, Ala. She sued for pay discrimination before retiring after 19 years because she had made $6,500 less per year than the lowest paid male supervisor.

However, the U.S. Supreme Court threw out her case, saying she waited too long to file a complaint. The court said that under the 1964 Civil Rights Act, an employee must sue within 180 days of a decision regarding pay if alleged discrimination is involved. The bill sought to change the law, but Democrats could not muster the needed 60 votes to override a Republican filibuster.

Obama voted for the equal pay litigation bill in April. McCain was campaigning that day and did not vote. But he has expressed opposition to the legislation, fearing it would open the door to too much litigation.

On average, women working in Obama’s Senate office were paid at least $6,000 below the average man working for the Illinois senator. That’s according to data calculated from the Report of the Secretary of the Senate, which covered the six-month period ending Sept. 30, 2007. Of the five people in Obama’s Senate office who were paid $100,000 or more on an annual basis, only one — Obama’s administrative manager — was a woman.

The average pay for the 33 men on Obama’s staff (who earned more than $23,000, the lowest annual salary paid for non-intern employees) was $59,207. The average pay for the 31 women on Obama’s staff who earned more than $23,000 per year was $48,729.91. (The average pay for all 36 male employees on Obama’s staff was $55,962; and the average pay for all 31 female employees was $48,729. The report indicated that Obama had only one paid intern during the period, who was a male.)

McCain, an Arizona senator, employed a total of 69 people during the reporting period ending in the fall of 2007, but 23 of them were interns. Of his non-intern employees, 30 were women and 16 were men. After excluding interns, the average pay for the 30 women on McCain’s staff was $59,104.51. The 16 non-intern males in McCain’s office, by comparison, were paid an average of $56,628.83.

The Obama campaign did not respond to written questions submitted on the matter Thursday by Cybercast News Service .

During his Albuquerque speech, Obama criticized McCain for supporting the Supreme Court ruling on the pay-equity issue.

“Sen. McCain thinks the Supreme Court got it right,” Obama said. “He opposed the Fair Pay Restoration Act. He suggested that the reason women don’t have equal pay isn’t discrimination on the job - it’s because they need more education and training. That’s just totally wrong.”

Obama continued, “Lilly Ledbetter’s problem was not that she was somehow unqualified or unprepared for higher-paying positions. She most certainly was and by all reports was an excellent employee. Her problem was that her employer paid her less than men doing the exact same work.”

Source: CNS News

#449 heysandy on 07.01.08 at 4:08 pm

Faxed Barry and Fast Eddie. Murphy, we’re ruffling feathers, thanks to you. Hang in there. I enjoyed the email you posted. “Now, they’re ‘FIGHTING’ us.”

YIPPEE!!!

#450 A-Will on 07.01.08 at 4:09 pm

#390 - mayor0102 - can you tell Murphy to get you my email address? I’m here in the NW as well, and I know you are getting a regional email list going. I’d love to be on that list so we can communicate and coordinate local efforts.

#451 MadLogic on 07.01.08 at 4:10 pm

mayor0102 and Fred! I’m from Aus, count me in first.

#452 jane-pa on 07.01.08 at 4:10 pm

433 Antifish thanks maybe if he sees enough of the reasons we are so upset he may understand. I get very nervous about the golden boy wanting to rule country but religion too /??Isnt that a familar and scary thought? Anything we can do I am for it.

#453 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:10 pm

Sandipuma #444

Good idea! Through our friends, we can get some sites for PUMA posting, but it all has to go through MURPHY because of the PAC rules. No one from out of county can donate to PUMA, but they certainly can give their opinion and ideas. We already have several Canadians who blog daily with great perspectives.

#454 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 4:11 pm

We can do a lot of letters to a lot of news papers. We need tons of expossure and it might be a good thing to keep letting other countries know what we are going through. Remeber President Clinton is a member of the 300 most powerful men in the world and well respected.

#455 goandersen on 07.01.08 at 4:13 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CyQo7hQt1Y

Get Loud Pumas!

#456 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:13 pm

Fred,

Keep a list. Madlogic -#451 - Aus (Australia or Austria)

PUMAs - Please list your country if you’re here from overseas or next door. Thanks.

#457 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 4:13 pm

Yes exactly but we don’t care about donations just the expossure and we can be sure to let them know that

#458 PumaAllie on 07.01.08 at 4:13 pm

#399 Fred

I’m British by the way. I haven’t mentioned it before now, just because I wanted to get to know all of you first
but I followed and learned so much about the Democratic primary process.

From here to someone who followed what happened, it definately looks anti-democratic.

That’s why I don’t say much but just try and lend my support anyway I can by blogging what is going on.

I have become energised by this PUMA campaign because I am proud of what you are all standing up for - democracy itself.

Hillary was the best candidate, and many over here would agree, because of her strong standing internationally and her work on Bosnia and the Northern Ireland peace process, her economic policies (which the US economy affects us all) and because she is an obvious born leader.

A lot of people don’t understand the way the Primaries work over here but once you get to the thinkers they do understand to some extent what happened.

Getting them to write about it is another thing, but I was thinking already about starting another blog myself and writing more specifically from the British angle.

I would certainly be open to writing in an article from that point of view.

#459 tillerylakelady on 07.01.08 at 4:13 pm

Hi fellow pumas , been a little busy today. I faxed a copy of MURPHYS Censored letter to HANNITY,BILL O’REILLY,RUSH LIMBAUGH,NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO,and the ASSOCIATED PRESS. I hope some or all will say something about this LOCK DOWN on our web sites. This cannot be tolerated. gotta go more work to do. see ya later PUMAS

#460 madazzhel on 07.01.08 at 4:14 pm

Hi Puma Pals,

I’m a newbie though I’ve been lurking for awhile. Big thanks to Murphy for all her hard work and to all of you for this group effort! There is strength in numbers.

I will NOT vote for the current presumptive Democratic nominee under any circumstance.

Growl Report: I’ve faxed letters to both Obama & Rendell, faxed my resumé to Dr. Dean, donated a ten spot and rated the videos.

By way of introduction here is my personal info from my application to be president.

“I have been self-employed for over 25 year with experience in interactive media technology, customer service, health and fitness, retail sales, advertising, budgets and taxes. I am also a trained musician which research has shown gives me a cognitive advantage as well as makes me a pleasant addition to social functions. I have a college degree. I enjoy public speaking and performing for large and small audiences.”

I probably should have mentioned that I perform music professionally, have traveled to about a dozen countries, can get by in a few languages and … well I could go on but didn’t want to appear over-qualified ;-)

on the prowl,

madazhel — a California Puma

#461 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:14 pm

A-Will #450

I’ll e-mail MURPHY. Tried a few times and it comes back. I’m told to keep trying.

#462 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 4:15 pm

I was born and raised in Canada and most my family are still there. I also have two sons there. I moved to the United States 20 years ago. I go home once a year ,i used to go twice a year but they come here too

#463 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 4:16 pm

Okay, I’ve sent my letters! ;-)

#464 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 4:16 pm

I have to log off to make a phone call for a perscription will be right back.

#465 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:16 pm

#458 PumaAllie

Welcome. I’ve seen you blog. Fred will get you on the list of our international crowd. Thanks.

#466 A-Will on 07.01.08 at 4:16 pm

#460 mayor0102

Great. Thanks.

#467 mcr on 07.01.08 at 4:16 pm

Re: BO appears not to be able to be able to control his surrogates (The Page, Mark Halperin)

http://thepage.time.com/

“If you didn’t think this was a coordinated attack on John McCain’s credentials before, it’s clear now that it is…. If Barack Obama can’t control his own surrogate operation, how can he be trusted to run the country?”

#468 MadLogic on 07.01.08 at 4:18 pm

Australia

#469 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:18 pm

Sandipuma #463

Can you make some connections for us in Canada through your relatives?

#470 Maryland PUMA on 07.01.08 at 4:18 pm

Who need whose emails? I can do it.

#471 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 4:19 pm

#458 Puma Allie - thank you! Glad to know you and TrishfromCanada and others over land and sea are watching and supporting us. I have also heard that people all over the world respect Hillary’s work in various nations, particularly for women and children. Please share your views and input more.

#472 Maryland PUMA on 07.01.08 at 4:19 pm

Ack, I speak well English!

And don’t leave out Trish in Canada too. :)

I’m gettin ready to go out to the pool so someone let me know who needs what!

#473 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:19 pm

#467 Madlogic

Thanks. Australia it is.

#474 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 4:20 pm

#467 MadLogic - hey, Aussie! ;-) Glad to know you are here too.

#475 BillieJo on 07.01.08 at 4:20 pm

Thanks for the link to the Big Dog. Here is my short note to him…

Hi President Clinton, I will make this short. I admire you and am a very strong Hillary supporter, yes one of those angry white women that think that this election was given to Obama by the DNC. I hope that Obama has whispered that he will give Hillary and you a great position in his cabinet if he wins. That is the only way I will vote for him. I hope both of you do not help him get elected and then have him turn his back on the both of you. You were an excellent President, I adore you and Hillary. She deserves to be our next President with you at her side. I am part of PUMAPac, but I will never vote for McCain, don’t worry. Take good care of yourself.
Billie Jo

#476 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:20 pm

#471 Maryland PUMA

She’s already at the top of my list. Thanks.

#477 MsBinMD on 07.01.08 at 4:21 pm

Sheila7

Trying to email you in reference to suggestion project. Having difficulty .
Not sure whose end it is on.
Please try to email me.

#478 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:21 pm

Drayonfly

Australia too! Or are you here in US and have connections in Australia. Let Fred and me know.

#479 goandersen on 07.01.08 at 4:22 pm

“Votes are Stronger Than Guns” A. Lincoln

The guns were pointed at Senator Clinton throughout the entire primary season, and yet,
She got the votes! We will Prevail.

#480 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 4:23 pm

I still can’t get thru to Ed Rendell. Will have to fax later. In the meanwhile, I faxed another letter to Pelosi and Dean as follows:
July 1, 2008

By Fax: (202) 225-4188
Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Gov. Howard Dean
By Fax: (202) 863-8063

Speaker Pelosi & Gov. Dean,

I am writing to voice my alarm at the ongoing tactics used by Obama’s supporters. I have been a Democrat all my life and have never seen the Party in such disarray. I attribute this to the strong-arming of both of you and the rest of the Democratic leadership, including Harry Reid and Donna Brazile. The pandering you have done to push your candidate down our throats does not sit well with those who favor a fair and balanced election. It was obvious from the beginning, even as Hillary was winning, that you wanted her to drop out. I’m surprised Howard Dean went along with this as he was no longer a viable candidate after the “Dean Scream.” Only one incident, and poof, he was gone. In spite of all the negatives that Obama brings with him, i.e., Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezco, Excelon, Michelle Obama’s comments about America being a mean country, his lies and flip-flops, you continue to fawn over him. When will you come to your senses and realize that you pushed the only viable candidate out of the race?

At the Unity event when people were shouting “Hillary,” Obama says “she rocks, she rocks.” Words like “bamboozled” and all the other rap talk is very embarrassing for a presidential candidate. What have you created with your blind ambition? Vandals in Orlando trashed and spray painted 60 city vehicles. By the wording on those cars, it is obvious the Obama thugs were out in full force Chicago style. Why in the world would Hillary supporters say “Don’t build any more prisons and legalize marijuana?”

I take exception to Al Sharpton’s words that if Obama is not nominated, the blacks will riot. Well, he was illegally “selected” and they still riot. This is an outright disgrace and you have only yourselves to thank for what you have done to the Party.

There is still time to do the right thing by allowing a roll call vote at the Convention for Senator Clinton’s supporters. Do not try and silence us and we will be heard. I have no intention of voting for Obama as he is unqualified to lead this country.

Respectfully,
XXXXXXXX
P.U.M.A. PAC Member

By the way, Murphy, did not use the PUMA logo.

#481 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:23 pm

#471 Maryland PUMA

Please send A-Will and Fred my gmail. Thanks.

#482 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:24 pm

#478 goanderson

Yes we will!!!! Prevail.

#483 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 4:25 pm

#455 goandersen - great video on youtube!

#484 diva2 on 07.01.08 at 4:26 pm

mayor 0102 Just saw your post re: Denver. I haven’t decided. i was hoping to stay with a friend but her daughter and friends will still be home from college. I so much want to go but the reality is my energy is only a few hous at a time and I know my back won’t hold up. I haven’t ruled it out yet.

I am so glad the weather is nice. I was a northern CA person and miss the longer warm weather days.

Hope you enjoyed the beach. Keep in touch!
diva2

#485 PA4HILL08 on 07.01.08 at 4:27 pm

I think we should get to Glenn Beck as well as a potential media contact. I listen to him quite a bit, believe he’s a conservative independent, don’t always agree with his more conservative views but can relate to his Patriotism and he’s definitely against BO. I know he’d be outraged by this borderline fascist activity going on. Plus he’s just plain funny! Email Glenn Beck at: me@glennbeck.com.

Since I’m at work right now I’ll email him a copy of the “press release” when I get home. But if others beat me to it, that’d be great!

#486 MadLogic on 07.01.08 at 4:27 pm

#473 Dragonfly. Hi :-)
I’m doing work on my laptop, and was following the web closely, MSNBC, ABC, CNN, FOX, CBS. The headlines toward Senator Clinton are disgusting, except for FOX they hate both candiates equally. Funny the US has called the Zimbabwe election a scam!

As soon as the Montana/S Dekota Primary was over, I then went to Senator Clinton’s website for the first time, and it was hi-jacked, so I found this site immediately, and had you guys book-marked, so can’t be re-routed somewhere else.

#487 nativegirl on 07.01.08 at 4:27 pm

Hello again.. I believe that I have left a couple of comments, but mostly I am a silent supporter. Today, after reading the email from Gov. Rendell (spelling??), I had to go to the link that Murphy provided and give him my two cents. Below is what I sent.

Governor,

This email is from a republican woman voter. I am sorry but I felt the need to send you this email after reading your response to a PUMA voter. To stand by and watch a party turn on their own, as an American I am without words. I watched the DNC on May 31, 2008; I was very impressed with the delegates from Michigan and Florida. I watched you on TV support Hillary and deliver your state to her in the primary. I thought you were great…. until today. And remember, I am a republican. Now, would I have voted for Hillary…no, but did I respect her.. ABSOLUTELY!! I cannot respect a man who fought so hard for her and is willing to turn his back on the very people that supported her. Your actions speak loudly across this nation, it does not matter that we are democrats, republicans or independents. We are Americans. If my party took my vote and said it did not count, implied that my State did not matter…. I would not hesitate to stand against that party. I have heard you state that you will not be running for governor again, that you are setting your sights for a higher office. These “Puma” people, they live in your state, and I am thinking they will not forget your words to them. They are not just angry; they are a smart, independent and determined. But most of all, they are voters and now thanks to the DNC, they are “ACTIVIST”. I am certain that one day, very soon, you will regret your email to this PUMA. And by the way, as a republican who is female, I would be happy to have any “PUMA” as a party member and as a WOMAN, they have made me very proud.

#488 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 4:27 pm

#477 mayor0102 - no, just saying welcome. I am in the panhandle of Florida, but a tarot card reader told me once that I would marry a New Zealander . . . well, that hasn’t happened yet, but I did meet some Aussies from Sydney during my honeymoon in Europe.

#489 BigCatLover on 07.01.08 at 4:28 pm

sandipuma

I think I can get you Bill Clinton’s mailing address if you want it. Just let me know.

#490 mayor0102 on 07.01.08 at 4:30 pm

To All:

I’ll be back on this evening. For those of you in the east, south, midwest, have a great evening and keep growling.

#491 goandersen on 07.01.08 at 4:30 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REcqBLgJ82I

Smack Down!

#492 diva2 on 07.01.08 at 4:31 pm

Murphy, I hate to even bring this up because I realize how crazy things must be these days for you but I thought I would throw it in for future computer updates.
How about being able to leave a comment right after a post until having to wait until the end to write one? It would help us in replying right away to someone or about some thing. I may be wrong, but I thought they did that at the old hillaryclinton.com site.

Just a thought…for possibly for later down the road. Thank you for being the great leader that you are!

diva2

#493 jane-pa on 07.01.08 at 4:32 pm

479 Ladyhawkke Great letter I hope you get somekind of answer. Let us know ok?

#494 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 4:32 pm

#378TREE: Tree: A number of years ago there was a socalled “minister”, named Jim Jones. He had a large following in California, I believe. At one point, Jones got hundreds of his followers to follow him to start a “Perfect Community” in Africa. This cult leader and this cult ended with one of the saddest endings one could imagine. Jones, obviously to us who watched this, who was insane, decided at some point that it was time to leave this world and go to heaven. He had some of his cult crew…mix up purple Kool Aid with poison in it. On a certain day at a certain time, he ordered all of the members to drink the poison Kool Aid.Those who refused were forced to do so by his “handlers.” This was widely covered with photographs etc. In fact, a California Congressman, was it Ryan? was shot and killed overthere, when, prior to the Jones Kool Aid order, Ryan, having heard from some Cult members who did manage not to go over to Africa and who were concerned about family members there, was on a mission to check the reports out.

Frankly, I have had and still have issues with using this image and metaphor . Why? Because people died drinking the stuff under the aegis of Jones,and it was one of the saddest events I have ever seen.

I think what has happened is that people, wanting to assert the cult like behavior of Obama’s campaign, and his followers as well as the Messianic tone and actions of Obama have picked up on this image to assert .

If, however, people following Obama have drunk the Kool Aid, they would be dead! So the image breaks down readily very soon. I think people mean don’t follow mindlessly this cult like behavior. Don’t follow the secular Messiah Obama and they are correct. I wish, however, the Kool Aid image would not be used. It would be better to simply assert literally here what people intend to say.
I think the in

#495 DaddysDarlin on 07.01.08 at 4:32 pm

Murphy, how sad I was to hear of your terrible ordeal at the hands of a BO thug, it made me cry to think that not only you, but your dear daughter had to be witness to this kind of harassment.

Please take this very seriously Murphy, carry pepper spray, and a taser. I hate guns, but I respect anyone’s right to carry one, you might consider some protection for you and your family. I am afraid for you, am I just being paranoid?

I am so damn mad about all this, BO is trying to take our civil rights away, I fear when he loses there will be riots like we’ve never seen before. Remember the sixties? It will be worse. This man has caused so much hate to build inside his supporters, that they are willing to do almost anything to ensure his win in November. I fear for our country, our rights and our freedoms. I believe that BO is pure evil, and nothing will change my mind.

Sorry for the long post, Be safe Pumas, there is strength in numbers!!!!!

I am one of 18 million strong and my vote will be counted!!!

One Love

#496 MamaPuma on 07.01.08 at 4:33 pm

460 madazzhel
big PUMA welcome to newbie Madazzhel

#497 Fred on 07.01.08 at 4:33 pm

My PUMA email is agathalewis@gmail.com
Don’t ask but no my name is not Fred nor Agatha… But I am getting a super poster made up - like a graffiti type poster with, No Bama, 18 million strong, Go Hillary etc in the poster - oh with the blog address too… Perhaps If I am really sweet, I could get a few made up so we can print and hand out.. it would be more eye catching .. can be made into screen saver or anything…. If you guys like it, I can print up a few boxes to ship out to anyone… Seriously man,,, we got to spread the word… we can’t sway the delegates or the super delegates or the what nots. Our bigget hope is to mobilize the population.. How many Black followers are there you think ? How many young people, How many old ? The numbers are staggering.. We have to keep the 18 million in our fold and bring new ones in.. It is a monumental job - short of a miracle - but I believe in miracles.

#498 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 4:37 pm

#460 madazzhel
# 487 nativegirl

Hi and welcome

#499 Maryland PUMA on 07.01.08 at 4:37 pm

**********REPOST**************

Welcome to all the new PUMAs I’ve seen today!

I understand your frustration with the speed of the blogs and the difficulty in tracking conversations or being ‘noticed’.

Please know that Murphy, along with several other PUMAs, are working our claws to the quick trying to keep up with this exploding movement.

Your suggestions HAVE been heard and are being addressed. Please bear with us while we’re ‘under construction’!

What may make it easier is this:

Post the Comment number and member’s name in CAPS as the first line in your comment.

If you need to find a particular entry - hit CTRL+ F on your keyboard (WIN). This will open up a search feature. Enter a word OR comment number in the box and search. Pay attention to where you are in the blog, the search is bidirectional and will search up or down from your current location.

*******************************************

#500 MadLogic on 07.01.08 at 4:38 pm

OK Pumas, it’s early morning here from my neck of the woods, i must snooze. Keep up the good work, I’ll be tuning in tonight, to see all your progress. ;-)

#501 diva2 on 07.01.08 at 4:38 pm

#497 Fred I KNOW there are miracles and have had a few occur in my life and I know there was no other explanation!!

#502 antifish on 07.01.08 at 4:39 pm

Well, Barack, when you try to be all things to all people you’re bound, at some point, to run into problems.

In light of the conversation a few of us had earlier:

Obama’s Pro-Gay Flyers
July 1, 2008
David Brody

“Barack Obama may be talking up his Christian faith like he’s doing today in Ohio and trying his best to appeal to Evangelicals with a “new kind of politics,” but he’s got a problem. Many of his positions are the same liberal positions that have turned off Evangelicals for years.”

“Handing out pro-gay rights flyers while at the same time talking about your “Christian faith” is a MAJOR disconnect for not only conservative Evangelicals but for some of those Independent voting, moderate leaning working class folks in the rust belt. It doesn’t play well.”

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/401969.aspx

#503 PumaAllie on 07.01.08 at 4:41 pm

#470 Dragonfly & others

thanks for the welcome :)

I will try and input more and I hope that Hillary Clinton will still get the nomination at Denver.

For now though, I have to sign off.

Go PUMA’s !!!

:)

#504 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 4:42 pm

#497 Fred - yes I agree with you, but I still think based on alucard’s success that there is hope for swaying the delegates. We should have a two-pronged approach to get the voters to keep the pressure on for the convention as well as an effort to get the delegates and superdelegates to do the right thing. Rock on Fred! I would love some flyers.

#505 nativegirl on 07.01.08 at 4:42 pm

Thank you TrishfromCanada

#506 PA4HILL08 on 07.01.08 at 4:44 pm

Pumas - Action Alert

I posted this several days ago but here goes again…

I take care of our Action Page. If anyone has any ideas for things they’d like to add to the Action Page, please drop me an email with your idea (pa4hill08.puma at gmail). If it’s straight forward and able to be done, I’ll do it as soon as I can. If it’s something I think might be in conflict with Murphy’s mission statement, or PAC and FEC rules, I’ll discuss it with her first. But please, send in those ideas! I cannot keep up with all the ideas flying in the blogs, there’s just too much. So email me if you’ve got an idea about things all members could use if added to the Action Page.

Thanks! Carry on Pumas!

PP Action Center: http://pumapacusa.org

#507 one4all on 07.01.08 at 4:44 pm

Murphy,
Faxes are on the way. Thank you for keeping us advised. The Obama people don’t seem too Professional. Stay strong Murphy, YOU ARE GREAT!

#508 Susie1945 on 07.01.08 at 4:45 pm

#434 Kykitten - video done by HireHeels - cool web site -

http://www.hireheels.com/index2.html

Diane started JustSayNoDeal coalition………………

#509 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 4:46 pm

#502 antifish - thanks for that link. You know, I really dislike *61’s hypocrisy on this point in particular. The way Larry Sinclair has been treated by *61’s supporters (freudian slip - I wrote ‘reporters’ there at first) is one aspect of it. He can’t be conservative Christian and promote lesbian and gay rights.

#510 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 4:46 pm

something weird just happened to the appearance of the blog

#511 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 4:48 pm

#493 I doubt I’ll get a reply. I have been faxing Dean & Pelosi since early March. They are quite familiar with me and I have never had a response. Have also faxed Judas (Bill Richardson) Debbie Wasserman Schultz, John Edwards, Gov. Brad Henry (Pa), Gov. Charlie Christ (FL), and have repeatedly called all the traitors including Sen. Robert Byrd (senile). But I feel GOOD!

#512 heysandy on 07.01.08 at 4:51 pm

#104 BigCatLover

Loved your email to Fast Eddie. May I steal it and send it, as well? Already faxed the letter, but could not email it.

Thanks!

#513 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 4:52 pm

Here is an artcle from the Toronto Star that was sent to me by another Canadian who visits this blog.

http://www.thestar.com/article/448751

Discusses how some Muslims feel about being shunned by Bo.

#514 john on 07.01.08 at 4:52 pm

Blacks punishing legislators who supported Clinton

In Georgia, Representative John Lewis, a prominent civil rights leader, is facing primary challenges from two black candidates who have been critical of him for backing Mrs. Clinton for months before shifting to Mr. Obama. To underscore the point, one of the challengers set up his headquarters in the same building that served as Mr. Obama’s office for the primary. Nearby, in Savannah, Representative John Barrow, who is white but represents a district that is largely black, is under attack from a challenger who says Mr. Barrow was also late to endorse Mr. Obama.

New Yorker, Representative Gregory W. Meeks of Queens, faces a primary opponent who has sought to make an issue of Mr. Meeks’s support of the Clinton campaign in a district, New York’s 6th, where Mr. Obama drew nearly 56 percent of the vote.

The man seeking Mr. Meeks’s seat is Ruben Wills, 36, a former chief of staff for State Senator Shirley L. Huntley and an organizer for Mr. Obama in southeast Queens. “I was on board with Obama from Day 1,” Mr. Wills said. “Meeks had to be dragged across the line.”
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/223/

#515 madazzhel on 07.01.08 at 4:53 pm

Thanks,
#491 MamaPuma
#498 TrishfromCanada
#499 MarylandPuma

I’m glad to be here!

on the prowl,

madazhel — a California Puma

#516 DaddysDarlin on 07.01.08 at 4:55 pm

# 211 Murphy, I went to Amanda’s site, It was disgusting, I am afraid to post, the hatred there. I’m speechless.

I have never heard such foul language in my life, what is wrong with these people, they are trying to dig up dirt when there is no dirt around here.

I cant stand this! Why am I, a fifty year old woman afraid to post on that terrible website? They want my email address, can I make one up?
I will go back in, and leave as quickly as I can, I must stand up for all of us Pumas, I know you are with me, I better hold my nose for this one.

One Love

#517 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 4:57 pm

From the article linked by MamaPuma at #183 re the Convention in Denver:

“The fence around the public demonstration zone outside the Democratic National Convention will be chicken wire or chain link, authorities revealed in U.S. District Court today.

That may allow protestors to be seen and heard by delegates going in and out of the Pepsi Center during the convention.

But the American Civil Liberties Union and several advocacy groups have filed an amended complaint to their lawsuit against the U.S. Secret Service and the city and county of Denver that says protestors and demonstrators may have their First Amendment rights violated by security restrictions.

The ACLU has said it wants to avoid the conditions that existed during the 2004 convention in Boston, where protesters were caged, infuriating
First Amendment advocates.

The first phase of the lawsuit asked the court to compel the city and the Secret Service to disclose the information on protest restrictions.

During today’s hearing before Judge Marcia S. Krieger, the attorney for the groups, Steve Zansberg, said the city and the Secret Service had provided the information sought in Phase One.

The second phase of the lawsuit will address whether the restrictions are unconstitutional. Zansberg also represents The Denver Post on First Amendment issues, though the paper is not a party in this dispute.

The groups agreed to go to trial on those issues on July 29 and the judge will visit the site the night before to assess the restrictions.”

#518 Firebelle Puma on 07.01.08 at 4:58 pm

#504 Dragonfly

Can I add another prong?

Dear Pumas, I’ve only been lurking the past couple of days, because I do need to get some real work done for a change.

But if Dragonfly is right about there being hope to sway the superdelegates, I’d like to repeat my earlier suggestions of putting pressure on Obama to accept John McCain’s invitation to do weekly town hall meetings. We all know how awful he is at communicating without a teleprompter or the scripted words of his speech writers. So it’s important to get him on the same stage with McCain, where his weaknesses will be heavily spotlighted.

I’ve been sending emails to the Obama camp, the DNC, superdelegates, John McCain, and the media, all geared toward backing Obama into a corner where he has to accept the invitation.

Among my talking points is the fact that Obama repeatedly said “I welcome that debate with John McCain” during the primaries, yet now he refuses to debate McCain. To me, it says he’s not a main of his word.

I also stress that Obama keeps insisting that he’s so good at reaching across the aisle, yet now he refuses to reach across his campaign platform to talk with McCain. To me, it shows that he’s not as bipartisan as he would like voters to believe.

Actions speak louder than words. Obama’s refusal to debate McCain tells me an awful lot about what kind of President he would be.

Anyhow, I need to get back to my own projects. Keep up the good work, fellow Pumas.

#519 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 4:58 pm

#497 FRED The posters are a great idea and I would love to have some. A couple of days ago someone said they were leaving cards out and assumed people were picking them up. But beware, one person may be picking up the whole stack and trashing them. I campaigned for a person running for Mayor and my job was to put out signs on a particular roadway. Sure enough, the opposition would remove them at night. It was an ongoing battle. So when I saw their flyers at various places, I just took them and trashed them. I also put out cards on cars at the various supermarkets and malls.

#520 Beca4Hillary on 07.01.08 at 4:59 pm

FYI,
HillaryClinton.com, no longer has Obambi’s info, she is asking for more money, we must help! I still donate weekly.

#521 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 5:00 pm

#516 Yes, by all means, make one up. Go to Yahoo and create a new e-mail address. When it asks for first name, put anything, your pet’s name, make up a last name. Give enough info to get the e-mail account. Then let all the hate go there and when you get it, mark it spam.

#522 tree on 07.01.08 at 5:01 pm

491 GoAndersen—Smack down

I also watched hit me with your best shot, I dont know if you watched it but she was holding a single yellow rose
TREEPUMA

#523 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 5:03 pm

#518 Firebelle Puma - you are so right, and you have been doing so much to put the pressure on. Firebelle Puma, would you be willing to email your idea for a growl on that to Maryland Puma (marylandpuma@gmail.com) and PA4Hill08 (http://pumapacusa.org/)

#524 tree on 07.01.08 at 5:04 pm

494 New Orleans

Thank you so much, you know on this site and thank you Murphy for bringing it together, you can learn so much, thank you

#525 goandersen on 07.01.08 at 5:04 pm

522 tree
Yep. A good one too.

#526 mcr on 07.01.08 at 5:05 pm

http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/720783.html

Clinton backer challenges Texas delegates
By AMAN BATHEJA

A local Hillary Clinton supporter has filed a written challenge to 126 Texas delegates elected to attend the National Democratic Convention in Denver.

#527 heysandy on 07.01.08 at 5:05 pm

I’m very disappointed that Senator and President Clinton are supporting BO’s and his minions communistic tactics. I know they’re in a precarious postion, but you must draw the line somewhere!

#528 Fred on 07.01.08 at 5:06 pm

NICE POSTERS FOR HAND OUTS :

Can someone email me agathalewis@gmailc.om to let me know how I can post Posters for PUMA’s to print out. I am making one with a Patriotic flavor (for July 4th) one that is graffiti flavored, one that is more girly and charming… so people can print out what they like.
And they can be made into screen savers too.

I hope they can be online tonight… This would be nice and not necessarily political looking..even tho content is…

INTERNTIONAL SUPPORT:
I will copy and paste anything I see that has got INT. support into a word doc. and forward to Maryland PUMA
(is that OK ? I haven’t asked yet).

Anyone who has connections overseas please email them … if they don’t want to blog, you can cut and paste their comments and put in their initials and country. But let this be legit.. Please post these on this blog but also email me in case I miss it - agathalewis@gmail.com. I actually work 20 hour days sometimes but these days, much energy goes to my second passion. I even dreamt last night of things I could do… I use to dream of my work !!

#529 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 5:07 pm

487-NATIVEGIRL: Thank you for your letter. May we find more “silent supporters” as you. When you speak, you go exactly to the point. It is the truth that we assert. It is the truth that we defend. It is the truth that has been swept aside and only the truth will keep us free.

#530 ABinNY on 07.01.08 at 5:08 pm

#322, Maryland and Sheila7, I’ll help too….email me
imgba@optonline.net

#531 ClintonRules on 07.01.08 at 5:09 pm

A friend of mine (who follows *61 blindly) called me out today. She called me this afternoon and tried to convert me by calling me racist and bitter. That’s all well and good, but then she started in on Hillary, and that’s where I draw the line. I retalitated and called her out, asking her to give me one viable reason why she supports *61 and there was a silence on the other end of the phone and then she said she wanted to meet me somewhere and I said “fine, but we’re going to meet in public.” i also told her i couldn’t wait to hear about all the amazing things *61 isn’t going to do for anyone…she never showed up, claims she had a flat tire…mmhmm…sure.

I’ve been called out by his followers so many times, and when I hit back, they get scared…well, think i’m going to go to some pro *61 sites and see whats going on…

#532 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 5:09 pm

#494 Sorry New Orleans Puma, didn’t see your post about Jim Jones.

#533 Henerietta on 07.01.08 at 5:09 pm

In April, a murder was committed in a student residence on the Fort Wayne campus of Indiana-Purdue University. My daugher Beth (fellow PUMA) was a student there. The perpetrator of the crime was a black woman (mother of the victim’s roommate). The victim was hispanic.

Why does this matter here? That was the same day Chelsea Clinton was speaking at the Student Union across campus. The strange is: Upon finding out about this murder, no press coverage got out except on the local news! Not one single new outlet, not NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC, FOX or MSNBC covered or even mentioned that while (at the very hour) Chelsea was speaking, a murder took place less than 1/2 mile away on the same campus. The campus was not closed down until four hours after the victim’s body had been removed.

It was then that I understood the depths to which the news media edit themselves in their reporting.

#534 MsBinMD on 07.01.08 at 5:10 pm

***IMPORTANT ****

More trouble from the Obama Camp

I was experiencing trouble with my gmail account and just went in to try again and found a letter that they instructed me to forward to “MURPHY”.

I responded and was going to post here, but I can not use my account at all.

I know alot of us here set up gmail accounts. Please let me know if you received this letter and if they have frozen your ability to communicate from gmail site.

Thank you

#535 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 5:10 pm

#524 TREE: You are welcome, Tree. I am going to imagine you as a lovely banana tree, one of my favorites growing down here !

#536 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 5:10 pm

#520 Beca4Hillary

It’s interesting that the topic started there on June 29 has 0 comments.

#537 mcr on 07.01.08 at 5:12 pm

CNN: Political Ticker July 1, 2008

New CNN Poll: Obama, McCain in a statistical dead heat

CNN Polling Director Keating Holland notes Tuesday’s survey confirms what a string of national polls released this month have shown: Obama holds a slight advantage over McCain, though not a big enough one to constitute a statistical lead.

#538 BigCatLover on 07.01.08 at 5:13 pm

#512 heysandy

That letter was just to Gov Rendell, I sent Murphy’s to BO. But what is mine is yours, so feel free to customize it and use it.

#539 ABinNY on 07.01.08 at 5:14 pm

346 goandersen, and Sheila7…it’s independent…
I keep dictionary.com in my list of favs, so I can easily look up stuff

#540 goandersen on 07.01.08 at 5:14 pm

534 MsBinMd
I received that one. I deleted it. It smelled funny. Puma sniff-out you know.

#541 goandersen on 07.01.08 at 5:15 pm

539 ABinNY
Independant is the french spelling of the word. I looked it up.

#542 virginia.puma on 07.01.08 at 5:17 pm

WOW! I have been locked out of here for about three days. Lost my account on the computer, unable to set a password, to contact Murphy… I finally had to create a new account under gmail to gain access. I was VA PUMA and will continue to try and get that back. I’ll have to catch up later. Did do alot of posting and recruiting on Greta Wire, especially yesterday as was not able to get on here. GO PUMA

#543 el puma on 07.01.08 at 5:18 pm

Many of the white Obama kool-aid drinkers I have talked to have similar characteristics which I find quite amusing(and disturbing).
Try “phony fools” “snotty”,”don’t have a life”,”self-righteous” “sanctimonius”.
Sure,some of these people will support a black or other minority to get into office as long as that candidate and their people are “way over there” in DC or somewhere else ..out of sight out of mind. But interesting enough many of these same white folks will “strongly prefer” to keep their suburban middle-class neighborhoods “lily white”.
When it comes to money matters these mawkish sobbers “take care of number one” suddenly become indifferent - turn a blind eye when they see minorities trapped under the glass ceiling in their company so that they can earn those bigger salaries and continue to live that privileged “good life”.
As long as Obama doesn’t mess with their privileged positions in society they will support him.They have a name for people like that I think they call them -HYPOCRITES..

#544 goandersen on 07.01.08 at 5:24 pm

maryland puma
are we organizing by state? Is someone here sending emails to that effect from: members@pumapac.org?

#545 alee21 on 07.01.08 at 5:24 pm

Is this kind of internet thuggery considered criminal activity?

Maybe this should be reported to the FBI (?).

#546 Taffy on 07.01.08 at 5:24 pm

diva 2 the problem with posting under is that sometimes people don’t scroll up to see if there is a response, especially if the thread is moving fast. Most want to keep up

For foreign visitors, I watch the UK papers as well. It was mentioned in one that they can report events but it’s an accepted practice internationally that countries don’t mix in other countries elections. So you won’t see opinions stated in the articles.

#547 MamaPuma on 07.01.08 at 5:26 pm

534 MsBinMD
That is very disconcerting. Please send this info to me
MamaPumaMass@aol.com
Murphy@pumapac.org
MarylandPuma@gmail

It is very important

#548 BillieJo on 07.01.08 at 5:26 pm

527 HeySandy, Bill and Hillary are political democrats with a lot of party power. To just not campaign or show some support of the candidate would be to cut their own political throats.

#549 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 5:27 pm

#194 I’m originally from Miami. When you sent the letter, did you give your real name? I’m afraid of what might happen if I used my name here, I do play tennis with a few blacks and, of course, they are for Obama. But politics is something I don’t discuss although no one said anything when I wore my Hillary button on my cap.

#550 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 5:29 pm

Murphy? Don’t know if this is the place for it, but I wanted to know if anyone can verify that this happened at the Muslim Pakistani Physicians Association in Washington, DC? I saw this on the donedems.com website and was shocked… not really, but omg, why hasn’t the press picked this up? Is it true or not?

By: mona on June 29, 2008
at 9:20 pm
donedems.com

Hi All Hillary supporters for McCain
Day before yesterday I posted this thread on Hillaryclintonforum.net….
[[I wish to add and share with you some more disturbing news about the same convention that I went to with my friend for two consecutive days.
I already told you what happened first day in that CULT?
For you I am quoting my first day experience again….to refresh your memories.And when you will read the following quote from my prior post, at the end I will tell you my second day’s( even more} disturbing experience and then I will ask you about your opinions and concerns…….
Quote:
I wish to share this disturbing and unfortunate experience that I had today when I attended a convention of Muslim Pakistani Physicians in North America in Marriott Hotel in Washington after I got an invitation from my close friend who is a Muslim Physician from Pakistan.
She accompanied me through the convention where all Pakistani democratic leaders were also gathered along with Senator Biden of Delaware who was discussing with all of these Muslim Pakistani Physicians to support Obama for change and for hope which they need as Muslims , at one point all of them clapped and applauded Obama for his change….
It looked like almost all of Muslim Physicians were supporting Obama….They discussed with me as well that they feel that this is the right time that America needs to have a Muslim President…I told them that Obama denies his Muslim heritage and that he is Christian , to my surprise all of them were raising slogans for Obama as their Muslim brother and to help raise money for his support. All of those Muslims firmly believed that Obama is their Muslim brother and that it is their duty to support him and to bring change in this country….
At the end of this convention one of their Chairman announced that change is coming to this country and that Obama is their Muslim brother and to help him as much as possible…..
This whole scenario of these Muslim Pakistani Physicians supporting Obama just based on their religion got me deeply disturbed and I was thinking what’s happening in America?
….alright…..
Alright I went with my friend again next day(yesterday) for their big banquet and to my shocking surprise what I heard and saw was unbelievable……..
They started their banquet with some prayers and national anthems of both countries and right after that they proudly presented two African American Muslim senators on the stage from democratic party (I forgot their names)…Both of them introduced themselves with pride that they are the first Muslims ever to be elected in the Senate and now they are working hard day and night to elect Barack Hussein Obama as your President who will be the first Muslim African American President and who will make sure that in America all are equal and anyone and everyone has the right to be President without any discrimination based on color, religion and ethnicity………these two senators went on and on and on in admiring Muslims, democratic party and Obama…….all of them were chanting some Arabic slogans with enthusiasm in praising Democratic party for nominating Obama and for giving Muslim people equal chance to be President……
And then these two senators told all of them at the end to Join them as Muslim Cacus for DNC convention in August and strongly support their beloved Muslim brother, Barack Hussein Obama….and help all of them make the history……all of them started chanting again some Arabic prayers in the praise of Obama….
Then all of a sudden another African American showed up on the stage and started telling us,”My dear Muslim brothers and sisters, look I have a great and beautiful news for you.” Then he opened a scrolled paper and started reading,” All of you are lucky along with me that I am reading this MESSAGE for you by your great Leader Barack Hussein Obama.”
Now this is the message,” Hullo my dear fellow Muslim brothers and sisters. First of all I apologize to you for not joining all of you on this stage of unity due to my urgent emergency, otherwise it is an honor for me to be with you for this special and honorable occasion. I hope you’ll forgive my presence,but, I am always with you via HOPE and CHANGE and UNITY…..You and I are united for change that we can do and can bring to this country. I request you to come to DNC convention in August in Denver as a Muslim cacus and support my nomination and then support me in November to make sure that this is our time, this is our last chance to win back this country for our freedom, for our lives and for our future .I promise you that next year I will be with you on this occasion .Thanks.Your’s
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
While this special message was being delivered, all those people were heavily clapping with enthusiasm, chanting and singing,”God is great, God is great. Obama is great, Obam is great. We love you Obama, we love you Obama brother.”
I couldn’t help myself and stood up and started saying,”Nobama, never, ever. PUMA. Shame, shame for using this occasion for Pro Obama campaign.” Few of those people just got up from their seats and told my friend to drive me home because I was not in my complete senses and they could not tolerate any one word of disrespect for their great inspirational leader,Obama.
My friend drove me back to my hotel room and in my way back I was shocked and disturbed…I felt as if I came from an Obama cult and it was so pathetic that these people used this platform which was an educational (continuing medical education)CME base as per my friend which unfortunately was being twisted and used for Pro Obama campaign…..
My question is why McCain campaign is not doing the same tactics as Obama campaign? Why these Muslim Pakistani physicians did not mention McCain even for once, as if, McCain doesn’t exist?”
Also, why were they acting like a cult? What association they have with Obama?
Is it CONTROL and RULE/POWER issue or INSECURITY? I am confused, sad and disturbed….Please, help.
Few of them told me that McCain will never win, this is Obama’s time , not even Hillary could win……and even Hillary is supporting Obama……………
……..

#551 heysandy on 07.01.08 at 5:30 pm

#547 Billie Jo

I completely understand that, but don’t get them condoning what’s happening to us re: subversion of freedom of speech, etc.

#538 BigCatLover

Thanks!

#552 MamaPuma on 07.01.08 at 5:31 pm

This email went to every PUMA today:

Dear Puma
We have grown to the point that we are ready to organize ourselves by state and region. This will give us the ability to communicate with each other and to organize around local and regional events.

Please look up your state in the list below to find what region you are in and send an email to the address that matches your region. In the subject line put, your PUMA name and your state. Then you can give as much information as you are comfortable with.

For example, I live in Massachusetts. I find Massachusetts on the list and see that it is in the Northeast Region. I then write an email to:
Northeast@Pumapac.org
Subject line: MamaPuma in Massachusetts

In the body of the email: Hi I am from Boston and would like to meet other PUMA’s in the area to get together and for support and help. Please feel free to share my email address with other PUMAs. (Or leave the last sentence out if you do not share your email address).
Thanks
MamaPuma

Puerto Rico is with the Northeast region states. Wash DC is with the Southeast region.

Midwest@pumapac.org
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NOTE:
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#553 turndownobama on 07.01.08 at 5:31 pm

Here’s the actual posting url for the Baltimore Sun article.

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/baltimore-sun/TRI9K1KD069FJF9FG/p2#lastPost

Only 35 posts so far. No hassle, form is at the bottom of the page, no registration.

Short thoughtful posts. Headlne to the actual story is:
Baltimore Sun
Obama has to convince the undecideds
Posted in the Baltimore Sun Forum

I’ve started an email list, PumaResponders, for alerts like this (like HIllarysResponders used to do). If anyone would like to join, pls email me at 1950democrat/at/gmail/com

#554 LandiPUMA on 07.01.08 at 5:32 pm

QUESTIONS ABOUT POSTING

1) PA4Hill08 (and others): How do you make text in your post bold? (one example is post #506)

2) How do you change the password that’s emailed to you when you register in wordpress? (it’s impossible to recall)

3) How do you make your username into a clickable link to some other web site or page? (PA4Hill08 is, again, one example of this)

#555 InuHanyou1701 on 07.01.08 at 5:32 pm

Afternoon PUMAs! I’m not on for the night as of yet but I wanted to see what today’s topic is. Murphy the email you recieved is ridiculous. Clearly this person has not been paying any attention at ALL! First of all, the “dog” reference is coming as a response to HOUND. We aren’t calling all Democrats dogs! And Murphy, correct me if I’m wrong, but if an intelligent Obama supporter, one who did not feel the need to resort to spewing hate, racism, sexism, and idiocy, were to visit our site you would allow their posts and, while the PUMAs would not agree with what he/she says, we would not shun them. PUMAs and Murphy PLEASE correct me if I’m wrong. I have seen no evidence that we are hostile to people JUST for being Obama supporters! What we are hostile toward are these people who resort to foul language and just absolutly rude comments that wouldn’t be tolerated in a real life situation. So, why should we tolerate it on the internet? As we are told at work. It’s the headline test. Don’t post anything that you wouldn’t want to end up on the front page of the newspaper!

While I will email the press release when I can (I have to take my dog to be boarded very soon so I don’t have time to focus on this just yet PUMAs. Sorry!) I feel that we are fighting an uphill battle. Murphy you mentioned that we were getting little to no help from Wikipedia. This is because they don’t care. They all support Obama. So I feel that we may be talking to brick walls. (I’m not saying I’ve lost faith in the PUMA movement or anything like that!) But I will, of course, be emailing this out to whom you suggested! Never know. Stranger things have happened. Maybe something will be done about it!

#556 heysandy on 07.01.08 at 5:32 pm

BTW, I always sign my real name to any letters I send. Maybe I’m nuts, but if you don’t put your name behind something that’s important to you, it doesn’t count for much, IMHO.

#557 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 5:34 pm

Its hard navigating the hillaryclintonforum.com website to find out what happened the day before… anyone know?

#558 tree on 07.01.08 at 5:34 pm

Dragonfly
whats going on, my page looks the same

TREEPUMA

#559 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 5:35 pm

#549BMW60 That is very disturbing. We should do a search and see what we come up with and then send it to all the news media. Why hasn’t this been picked up?

#560 MamaPuma on 07.01.08 at 5:36 pm

#552 turndownobama
That is a wonderful idea.
Please email me at MamaPumaMass@aol.com

We might be able to help you do this. It is a great idea

#561 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 5:37 pm

#551 mamapuma:

Okay, I’ve sent my e-mail to organize by state.

#562 Fred on 07.01.08 at 5:37 pm

“Posters ” (aka poster like flyers)

SIZE: 8 1/2 x 11
AUANTITY: 5,000 each designs (two designs total)
WHAT DESIGN: I can post to get a vote
TIME LINE: Two weeks
LABOR: enough people to use up 10,000 posters- I will send them out to people that want to hand them out. Do you guys think 10,000 one page poster/ flyer is too much ?

#563 utahpuma on 07.01.08 at 5:42 pm

#516 DaddysDarlin

I learned the hard way to set up an email on yahoo or hotmail or gmail, that I use just for comments on other web sites. I have a separate one for personal things and an even different one for Pumas. It really cuts down on the backlash stuff.

And I do use another name if when is requested, maiden name, mother’s maiden, famous name, etc.

Let them threaten an imaginery person. Who cares!

#564 AniEm on 07.01.08 at 5:47 pm

#514 John

Is this an example of the ‘unity’ we can expect?

Thanks for the post.

#565 kavala007 on 07.01.08 at 5:47 pm

Check out No Quarter and see the T-Shirt Obama or Die ! worn by P. Diddy.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

#566 john on 07.01.08 at 5:48 pm

Backstabbers! We Will Remember in November Video!
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/backstabbers-we-will-remember-in-novem

#567 MamaPuma on 07.01.08 at 5:48 pm

#560 Hillmania

Good work
thank you

#568 sheila7 on 07.01.08 at 5:48 pm

MSBINMD
i tried your email. see if you receive it. i’m on the run right now, in a big hurry but i’ll check back in with you and see if you emailed me when i get home.

#569 grlpatriot on 07.01.08 at 5:50 pm

ALERT: Murphy and PUMAs, I posted a counter piece to the smear against Murphy on MyDD. If you have an account, I could us some help in the comments. Thanks.

PUMA Pac Founder, Murphy, “NOT a Republican”

#570 NewOrleansPuma on 07.01.08 at 5:52 pm

#549 BMW60: You have exposed one of the methods used by Obama and his campaign with certain groups.
Obama will court whomever he can. He will say one thing, many things in public for the so-called “majority audience.” He will say other things in more hidden forums for the minority audience. Obama is a pure Machiavellian…the end justifies using any means…He is a fraud. What courage you showed in that group! You are with the right organization here. I commend you for your courage. You along with all of the people here and out in this country must continue to assert the truth. Tothe Muslims, he is a Muslim, To the whatevers he is whatever….He is an empty void, he is a mirror reflecting whatever is in front of him back to the hearer so the hearer is supposed to leave thinking He is like me. I am like him. There is another word fora person who does that: sociopath…someone with no boundaries. If the followers seem to be cult like, it is because they are. Do not look for logic with him. There is none except as used to invent more mirror reflections. This is one of the reasons I have consistently said since I first heard and saw him, that he is the most dangerous candidate ever to be put forth as a candidate. He must be defeated in the fall!

#571 william DenverCO on 07.01.08 at 5:54 pm

DMurphy, I have been calling all day and be say;
h-t-t-p-:-/-/b-l-o-g-.-p-u-m-a-p-a-c-.-o-r-g at every call. Called Santa Fe, New Mexico. My home state; Land of Enchantment!
I got to go take a shower now, it has been hot!
Met some nice people!
I hope they join us.

#572 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 5:56 pm

#569 New Orleans Puma I do believe he is a muslim; however, I did a search and could not find when the Pakistani Muslim Conference was. I would like to have an article to back up to that post.

#573 pa dem on 07.01.08 at 6:00 pm

MamaPUMA: Are we automatically on the mailing list for our region? Or do we have to sign up separately to receive emails for northeast@pumapac.org for example??

#574 john on 07.01.08 at 6:01 pm

July 1, 2008
New CNN Poll: Obama, McCain in a statistical dead heat

Tuesday indicates Obama holds a narrow 5-point advantage among registered voters nationwide over the Arizona senator, 50 percent to 45

But the new CNN/ORC polls shows the race gets even tighter when the two most prominent third-party presidential candidates are considered. In a four way match-up that includes independent candidate Ralph Nader and Libertarian candidate Bob Barr, Obama’s lead over McCain dwindles to 3 percentage points, 46 percent to 43 percent. (Nader registers 6 percent while Barr gets 3 percent.)GO NADER
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/01/new-cnn-poll-obama-mccain-in-a-statistic

#575 Fred on 07.01.08 at 6:05 pm

Since posting my email in the last hour - I got an un-invited Obummer follower slamming Murphy etc…

I have no time to refute, rebuke their email. My energy is needed somewhere more condusive. If you get emails like this, don’t bother to engage them. We need every minute we can spare to focus on our goal.

#576 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 6:07 pm

#571 ladyhawkke

I went to the MPAC website and could find no reference to this conference either. As well, from reading the information on their website I don’t see how they all unanimously embraced Obama’s message. The posting on donedem may just be someone trying to rile people up.

#577 snowtiger on 07.01.08 at 6:08 pm

Just for fun.
This cracked me up.

#578 snowtiger on 07.01.08 at 6:10 pm

Damn it didn’t link. Anyway McCain has a game on his site. You shoot pigs out of the sky using a veto. Lol. Every now and then a pork barrel floats by for bonus points.
A much needed piece of comic relief.

#579 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 6:11 pm

Tryin to catch up om posts

#157 bmw60
Thanks for all the work. I printed it off . . . will make my work so much easier having all those names, phone numbers, and urls at finger tips. It would have taken me a month to compile all this.

#167
Did you realize that Maya Angelou was/is a Hillary Supporter. Early on she did a video for her but I’m not sure just how her health is these days.

#180
And thanks to you for a great idea. I was thinking newspapers but totally forgot that they have 3 line specials. I look at forests but don’t see trees.

#580 InuHanyou1701 on 07.01.08 at 6:13 pm

#574 Fred

be sure you are careful when and where you post your email as Obama’s supporters that will do that kind of crap are like high school bullies. (Trust me I know. I was bullied alot throughout my school years and I’m having a major deja vu)

#581 MamaPuma on 07.01.08 at 6:14 pm

#570 william DenverCO
That is so wonderful and so effective.
The only way that we can make the Democratic Party listen is with the power of numbers.

Just great work!

#582 DancesWithPumas on 07.01.08 at 6:15 pm

This was posted by CognitiveDissonance at The Confluence. I think it’s important to post as a reminder:

“Just want to pass along a comment I read at The Denver Group site. Marc Rubin was battling a ‘bot in one thread and he made this comment:

If the supers declare exactly the same way at the convention as they say they will now Obama will get the nomination. But they are not obligated to and if approximate 10 switch he wont get it she will.

This is definitely NOT something I think that most of us are aware of - the fact that a handful of SD’s switching would totally change the vote. The media has not publicized this in any way. That makes it even more understandable why Obama, Dean, Brazile, Pelosi, et al, are trying to stop a roll call vote. And why it is even more imperative that we keep contacting SD’s.”

#583 InuHanyou1701 on 07.01.08 at 6:17 pm

And to those Obama supporters who are watching our site and trying to post malicious things unsucessfully thanks to Murphy’s wonderful work, I have to ask. Are you really so afraid of our movement that you have to resort to such juvenille (I totally mispelled that…) tactics? PUMAs I have to go but I’ll be back!

#584 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 6:17 pm

Murphy, who did the cool StormTrooper pic with the Obama symbol on their shoulders? Brilliant.

#585 MamaPuma on 07.01.08 at 6:19 pm

#572 pa dem
If you did not get an email, you have to join first to become a PUMA.

If you have joined see #551 for instructions. The instructions are also in the email.
To get on the list for your region and state, write an email to the region. Otherwise, you will still be a PUMA but the moderator for the region will not know that you are part of that team,

#586 DancesWithPumas on 07.01.08 at 6:20 pm

#581
I’m wondering if it is a feasible strategy to focus on the SDs of the swing states, and or those states where Democrats are most vulnerable. If we can publicize in papers, for instance, and get some disgruntled, not yet PUMA, Democrats motivated to put the pressure on, it might make another difference.

#587 prplvette85 on 07.01.08 at 6:21 pm

I didnt get an email and I am a PUMA… :(

#588 DancesWithPumas on 07.01.08 at 6:24 pm

#568 GRLPATRIOT
“Murphy and PUMAs, I posted a counter piece to the smear against Murphy on MyDD. If you have an account, I could us some help in the comments. Thanks.
PUMA Pac Founder, Murphy, “NOT a Republican””

I appreciated that piece.

#589 tree on 07.01.08 at 6:24 pm

Got the email and registered TreePuma

#590 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 6:26 pm

#586 Don’t feel bad, you would have had to sign up for the e-mails earlier. Just click on your region and they will put you on the list. I’m on the NE Florida list. By the way, I still don’t know how to get those smileys in my posts.

#591 piepiepie75 on 07.01.08 at 6:26 pm

Got the e-mail, and told them that I would do whatever I could to help.

Anywho…

I heard something depressing today. Someone told me if we had stuck to President Clinton’s economic policies over the last eight years, our national debt would be paid off by next year. *sigh* Is this true? Noone can run the White House quite like a Clinton can…

#592 MamaPuma on 07.01.08 at 6:26 pm

#587 prplvette85
write me an email and I will check to see if you are on the list

PUMAs
please note if any other blogger says he did not get and email. Tell him/her to write to me
MamaPumaMass@aol.com

#593 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 6:26 pm

it’s http://www.pa.dems.com/hounds

#594 MamaPuma on 07.01.08 at 6:28 pm

Keep commenting that you responded to the email so that everyone will know what is going on.

If anyone is having a problem, write to me
MamaPumaMass@aol.com

PUMAs are really the best

#595 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 6:28 pm

I see Obumbus is going to go meet with the President of Mexico and with the Prime Minister of Canada. WOW i must have slept through the election.

#596 DaddysDarlin on 07.01.08 at 6:29 pm

OK, I posted at that website Murphy, I just couldn’t read some of that crap.

I wish things were different, but we must continue to fight for the rights of all Americans. Be Safe Puma’s!!!

One Love

#597 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 6:29 pm

@pumaallie- I studied in England for a brief time in college- loved it :)– It is interesting, when I go over to the BBC site and look at a simple article about the summer schedule for Obama and McCain, there’s an influx of comments about how stupid the American voter is. And sadly they’re probably right sigh :( I mean our image in foreign countries is just sooo terrible; I do hope this summer tour will help more than hurt in regard to America’s image abroad :(

#598 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 6:29 pm

#586 Dances w/Pumas I think that is a good idea. I faxed Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida and asked her not to release her delegate. I know a lot of the delegates are now “supporting” Obama but does that mean they are now giving him their Hillary delegate? I think we do need to focus on the swing states, Florida being one. Please post comments as to what states we should focus on.

#599 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 6:29 pm

He has more nerve than Dick Tracey.

#600 TrishfromCanada on 07.01.08 at 6:30 pm

#595 sandipuma

He’s been saying that for the past month. it’s just words.

#601 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 6:34 pm

I think we need to write letters to the Parliment of Canada and to London and as many countries as we can as i see the same thing happening here of what happened to Hillary happening to Mccain …where Obumbus acts like the leader and goes on with that role without even a election

#602 virginia.puma on 07.01.08 at 6:35 pm

Hi guys~ I am going to try to post again to see if I can get through.

#603 AZClintonDemocrat on 07.01.08 at 6:37 pm

In honor of PUMA’s birthday, I was reading past blogs and as I was doing so, I began to reminisce about all of the actions that have been completed by this group, in a relatively short period of time. I was thinking of how I read every morning and night. It has been a wonderful refuge. Although I always read, I nearly never post, I almost never posted anything. However, while I was reading all of the posts, old and new, it really dawned on me how much Murphy and all of the other regulars have really done for our cause. THANK YOU ALL the regulars and the new posters.

I almost cannot believe how fast we continue to grow. I was reading the 1000 letters to Howard Dean and the DNC and I noticed new posts from yesterday. It was a real joy.

I also was looking at GretaWire, and there are tons of new people there getting a taste of PUMA, and they all seem to be eager for information. The continue to post today.

I was thinking about the excitement of the first media exposure, and how excited we were when Dean, Brazile, Pelosi, etc. contacted Murphy to voice their displeasure.

As we get more and more attention, we also get more and more members and as a result, we get more and more posters with different ideas. I hope as a “whole,” we can all be more patient so we do not have infighting. When I first realized how poorly some people (outside) are treating Murphy and others I was very sad, I then realized that it indicates just how SUCCESSFUL this cause has become. I also thought about how many worse names one could be called besides a Republican.

I believe there are probably many silent PUMAS out there. I really love this site and I want to extend my most sincere thanks to all involved.

I was also thinking about all of the actions we have done. I can almost guarantee that there are many people out here who are aware of what we are doing, but for political reasons, cannot say anything. Can anyone believe that over fifty different flower arrangments were delivered and no one noticed. I think not. Also, they have to do something with all of the flip flops.

In my correspondence to Bill Clinton, I mentioned that I hoped he liked the Father’s Day cards and the flowers for Hillary.

Thanks to all and keep up the good work.

#604 piepiepie75 on 07.01.08 at 6:38 pm

17 Goalucard4Hill

Honestly, the sad thing about this is that I am completely unsurprised by this.

It’s hard to explain how my fellow peers act…A lot of them can’t stand to ‘conform’ to society. Many of them can’t stand the thought of working a M-F 9AM-5PM job. But they end up conforming to their own little society, where things they like are not determined by their own tastes, but by tastes of the people around them.

Take for example: Obama. He was not that big around the youth around here until late 2007, when news stations started reporting about ‘Obama Fever’ on college campuses. Almost overnight, peoples dorm walls were lines with Obama posters, every car in the parking lot had an Obama sticker, and several fundraisers were being held. I ask several of my friends why they supported him, and they simply told me that they had ‘Obama fever’.

Now, of course there are young people out there who researched their candidates thoroughly and decided that Obama was the one who shared their views (Whatever Obama’s views were that day, anyways). But I just get the feeling that many youths are driven more by the ‘I won’t be cool if I’m not for Obama’ feelings.

#605 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 6:39 pm

#594 MamaPuma~ I just sent my email to join. I thought I was a member when I joined up to blog. I should now be on the list and will be looking for the confirmation email. Thanks.
~J

#606 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 6:39 pm

Ok we need to get Murphy on either Bill O’Reilly or Hannity and Colmes. Hannity would love her. So would Bill

#607 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 6:40 pm

@henrietta as someone who took some post grad work at that university, that is appauling. I remember constant bomb threats there in the late 90’s, when I was there. They never seemed to be taken seriously for some reason. That is crazy to think there was a murder half a mile away , no national news outlet picked that up. Or that the campus wasn’t on lockdown especially considering the national security risk? wtheck?

#608 MsBinMD on 07.01.08 at 6:41 pm

Sheila7

My gmail account is messed up. Apparantly I have been targeted by an email that has frozen my ability to communicate. Had to obtain it from here. Only place I use it! Be careful what you open everyone.
MamaPuma and Murphy have data and are researching (I thank you).
Gmail is researching on their end. Hope they get the sucker.
I will try to contact you later on another email.

#609 MamaPuma on 07.01.08 at 6:42 pm

605 Jeremy
Don’t forget to sign up for your region after you get your confirmation email

#610 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 6:42 pm

to Landipuma, you should be able to change your preferences under your wordpress profile I believe- Go back to your original email, where you activated your acct, and it should throw you into a page to change your info password etc ( but not user name) you can then put an Url/ or link in , which causes your user name to then have a link with the name- I hope this helps

#611 jm1673 on 07.01.08 at 6:43 pm

This email from an Obama support is the exact type of bullying and…if I must say….quite unintelligent rhetoric. The nerve of these people, led by such a SNOB, is just disgusting. All it does it add more fuel to the fire. Fight on everyone!

http://www.hellnobama.com

#612 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 6:43 pm

#609 Will do MamaPuma. Just got my confirmation email. Thanks.
~J

#613 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 6:43 pm

welcome back ((( piepiepie )))

#614 Fred on 07.01.08 at 6:43 pm

I have a special email I use for PUMA matters… Actually, it will take a lot to scare me. I really won’t respond to anyone that will waste my time. Delete is the best response.

#615 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 6:46 pm

@609 MamaPuma are we then now supposed to communicate through those groups by region and only come here for daily growls? I wonder if we should have a yahoo group or a google group for people to join per region, so we can receive individual emails or read on the web? Or do we want all of our comments to be posted? Sorry if this was already discussed

#616 deadgirlsrise on 07.01.08 at 6:46 pm

I think it is time we declare ourselves a Political Party. We need to Organize, State by State. We need to hold a first Convention, in the City of Chicago. Our Symbol is the PUMA. We represent the Center. We represent One Person, One Vote. Every Vote is Counted. The People Speak. We Hear Their Voice. We Are The People. We Have A Voice. Our Candidates Are From The People. By The People. For The People. We Believe in The Three Branches of Government. Our Constitution.

#617 Mary Beth613 on 07.01.08 at 6:47 pm

took me all day to get back on this site..something happening that i don’t know about?

#618 antifish on 07.01.08 at 6:47 pm

OK, I wrote to Matthews and Olbermann. I also wrote the following to the Human Rights Campaign to try and put some more pressure on BO. I urge all our LGBT Pumas and those who support us to please do the same. I also think this should be addressed in a Puma LGBT flyer. If we could get a major organization like this to withdraw its supportof BO, it would be big news. The email address is: hrc@hrc.org

Subject: Your Endorsement of Barack Obama

I recently contacted you to protest your endorsement of Barack Obama and received a “canned” reply which, by the way, is deceiving. In the second blurb, you state that he proposed federal legislation in 2004. That’s interesting, since he didn’t enter the US Senate until January 2005. You may want to correct that as Senator Obama already does an adequate job of inflating his own resume. But that is not why I’m contacting you.

Today, I read several articles in reference to Senator Obama’s intention to continue a revamped version of President Bush’s faith-based initiatives. I find that completely outrageous and so should you. As I’m sure you are aware, such programs violate the legal doctrine of separation of church and state that has been established in our country but, more importantly, they serve to enable those who oppress LGBT Americans. The groups who will be recipients of Senator Obama’s public largess are the very groups who work day in and day out to deny basic human rights and dignity to LGBT citizens. The groups who organize petitions for ballot initiatives to try and overturn every advance we make. For years, under the Bush administration, I have gritted my teeth and lived with the fact that my, and other LGBT people’s, taxes were contributing to these hate groups. I cannot conceive that this policy would continue under a Democratic administration. I simply find it incomprehensible and outrageous.

As an organization whose sole purpose is to advocate for our rights, I call on you to publicly denounce Senator Obama’s stance on this issue as being in contradiction with your stated objectives. While I’m sure the Obama campaign will rebut this by saying they will only fund charitable causes, the funds these groups receive from the government free up funds to be used in denying LGBT rights. I further ask that, should Senator Obama be unresponsive, you withdraw your endorsement of him immediately.

Sincerely,

xxxxxxxxx

#619 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 6:48 pm

607 me– ugh Appalling not appauling “blush”–

#620 MamaPuma on 07.01.08 at 6:49 pm

KYkitten
This is always our site.
The regional and state organization is to help people by meeting each other and working on local projects together. We will be stronger with each other’s help.

But this is our site. This is where we comment, come to read Murphy, and share with each other

#621 ontherocks on 07.01.08 at 6:49 pm

MamaPuma,
I just emailed you about adding me.
Thank you

#622 ontherocks on 07.01.08 at 6:52 pm

616: deadgirlsrise

I love your idea. That would be fantastic. I would go.

#623 deadgirlsrise on 07.01.08 at 6:52 pm

This bears repeating again. Did anyone think it would be any different from Boston in 2004… It infuriated me then. It Infuriates me NOW!!!

#352 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 3:15 pm
Sent letters

see below - Article @ http://www.democracynow.org

Protesters At DNC In Denver To Be Fenced In
More information has been revealed about Denver’s plans to control protesters during the Democratic National Convention in August. Local and federal officials are setting up a so-called public demonstration zone that they plan to fence off with chicken wire or chain link. The American Civil Liberties Union has criticized the plan comparing it to the set up in Boston during the DNC in 2004 when the protest zone was inside a cage.

#624 FL_Debby_Puma on 07.01.08 at 6:53 pm

608 Change your password and see if that helps

#625 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 6:53 pm

@618 right on Antifish- I have to say I’m still scarred by seeing posters in my own church in so. illinois in 04/05 that said God’s President with big pics of Bush on it- I felt like that is when the separation of church/state died ( during his 8 yrs) ( remember the brochures or bulletin inserts at church in WV for voting for God’s choice: Bush?) —, so I would hope Obama would move away from this…Ugh the fact that he isn’t just worries me even more about him.

#626 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 6:54 pm

#623 they can’t cage PUMAs — I agree it’s an outrage

#627 OnlyHill on 07.01.08 at 6:54 pm

#226 drbodkin
Your name is familiar did you post at Hillary’s site during the primary?

Hey Murphy, I know I’m one of the many quieter Pumas but I’m here in support of you and Puma and think you are doing an amazing job!!! Thank you and thank you to each Puma who honors “political dissent” no matter what political party it is stirred up in because as Thomas Jefferson once said, “the price of democracy is eternal vigilance”!

Murphy did you receive the check I sent?

#628 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 6:55 pm

#618 antifish Is that the right address? We’re supposed to be writing to the LGBT community and that looks like a Hillary address.

#629 ontherocks on 07.01.08 at 6:57 pm

#623

I think it is a just another way the DNC is digging a hole they will never get out of.

#630 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 6:57 pm

@616 I would also go to regional conventions– strength in numbers, and more events the better–

#631 antifish on 07.01.08 at 6:58 pm

#625 KYkitten,

Me too, I don’t support him, but I would expect a Democrat to reject such policies. My mother is an evangelical Christian and, I can tell you first-hand, the empowerment Bush’s policies caused in that group have made her a scary person to be around. She doesn’t even realize how hateful she sounds because she hears it at church and thinks it OK.

#632 prplvette85 on 07.01.08 at 6:59 pm

No we won’t talk radio about to start.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2008/07/02/No-We-Wont-and-Cynthia-Ruccia-of-Women-for-Fair-Politics

#633 antifish on 07.01.08 at 7:00 pm

#628 Ladyhawkke,

Yes! Its, the Human Rights Campaign. Same initials. :)

#634 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 7:00 pm

Just faxed Rendell and it finally went thru!

#635 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 07.01.08 at 7:00 pm

#618 Although I’m not LGBT, I support you 100%. I posted a link to that article early this morning and made a comment that I was absolutely speechless. I still am. Personally, I don’t think many people understand the consequences of this. I am a Christian who fully believes in the separation of Church and State. His little disclaimer that “Obama proposes allowing religious institutions to hire and fire based on religion only in the non-taxpayer-funded portions of their activities” is B.S. (sorry Murphy)

#636 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 7:00 pm

@620 mamapuma thanks for not leading me astray :)- I swym about physically meeting and getting local events/actions together. Thank you for this incredible organized effort in such a very short time.

#637 cosmeta on 07.01.08 at 7:01 pm

#114 ABinNY on 07.01.08 at 11:30 am, WROTE,

[[ 97 cosmeta,
Why do these media hacks just focus on the idea that some Clinton supporters are voting for McCain? This guy completely glossed over the point of Paula’s issue…that we are being threatened and badgered by BO and his possee? It’s not just about who is voting for whom anymore. The larger issue is the corruption in the DNC, the media bias, and now the threats to our rights to free speech and political protest.
We must get bigger and louder!
Growl PUMAs!]]

1. I don’t think the media was ever concerned about the DNC corruption or the voters.

2. The media has passed the primaries by and is now focused on the General Election.

3. Even if media were aware of vitriol and threats, they would not touch it themselves, so giving someone like Paula some air-time is exceptional; although puttings one’s name on cable news along with your email address is asking for addition trouble in my opinon.

Still I sent her a supportative email.
She has not emailed me back.
No one ever does.

PUMA is seen as a fringe group.

#638 antifish on 07.01.08 at 7:05 pm

#623 deadgirlsrise,

Pumas will not be caged like common animals. We are too UNcommon for that! I read today that the ACLU is fighting this. I’ll try to find the article again and post here.

#639 DancesWithPumas on 07.01.08 at 7:05 pm

Excellent. I wanted to ask if there were any PUMAs in my area who wanted to pool resources (energy), and voila! The “regions” email arrives. Thanks! I just signed up.

#640 nutmegbelle on 07.01.08 at 7:05 pm

369 mayor0102 & 618 antifish

These faith-based initiatives are a crock. What BO wants you to think is that he does care about gun toting bible thumpers, but really its just a nice little loophole to funnel money to initiatives in the Trinity church. Call me paranoid, but this guy has flip-flopped on religion more than Mary Lou Retton on a floor routine!

#641 antifish on 07.01.08 at 7:07 pm

#635 Muchado,

Thank you for your support. :)

#642 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 7:08 pm

#618 antifish, I sent an email too, basically plagiarized you, hope that is okay!

#643 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 7:10 pm

Reading the blogs today and what Murphy and others (esp. Murphy) has been through both personally and with our group is beyond the simplistic “over the top.” What if it was the other way around? Would any of us toss out our own self worth and credibility to destroy another person’s rights or property? Hacking a person’s email or a groups web page would be the same as openly destroying a mailbox…right? It has been awhile since I have a had mailbox, but doesn’t it say on the door that “tampering with this is punishable by Federal Law? Unreal.

#644 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 7:11 pm

revise: “have had”

#645 antifish on 07.01.08 at 7:12 pm

#640 nutmegbelle,

That was my first thought when I read the article. Oh no, he’s going to give money to Reverend Wright (no wonder he didn’t retire) and Father Pfleger so they can spread their hatred nationwide!

#646 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 7:12 pm

#623 deadgirlsrise, the ACLU is fighting this. There is a hearing on July 29.

“The fence around the public demonstration zone outside the Democratic National Convention will be chicken wire or chain link, authorities revealed in U.S. District Court today.

That may allow protestors to be seen and heard by delegates going in and out of the Pepsi Center during the convention.

But the American Civil Liberties Union and several advocacy groups have filed an amended complaint to their lawsuit against the U.S. Secret Service and the city and county of Denver that says protestors and demonstrators may have their First Amendment rights violated by security restrictions.

The ACLU has said it wants to avoid the conditions that existed during the 2004 convention in Boston, where protesters were caged, infuriating
First Amendment advocates.

The first phase of the lawsuit asked the court to compel the city and the Secret Service to disclose the information on protest restrictions.

During today’s hearing before Judge Marcia S. Krieger, the attorney for the groups, Steve Zansberg, said the city and the Secret Service had provided the information sought in Phase One.

The second phase of the lawsuit will address whether the restrictions are unconstitutional. Zansberg also represents The Denver Post on First Amendment issues, though the paper is not a party in this dispute.

The groups agreed to go to trial on those issues on July 29 and the judge will visit the site the night before to assess the restrictions.”

#647 antifish on 07.01.08 at 7:14 pm

#642 Dragonfly,

By all means, let’s flood them with emails!

#648 DancesWithPumas on 07.01.08 at 7:15 pm

Cosmeta

ErikRush
Obamination
February 20, 2007
Twelve Point Trinity Unity Church List on Afrocentricity by ERIC RUSH News Columist

1 Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.”

I don’t see anything on this list to which I would object.

#649 Taffy on 07.01.08 at 7:15 pm

Lady hawkke smiley = colon then parenthesis over )
frown=colon then Parenthesis over 9 wink=semi colon then parenthesis over 0 tongue=colon then P big smile=colon then D no spaces between colon and parenthesis or letter :D

#650 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 7:15 pm

#637 cosmeta - I’m glad you emailed Paula, though. Eventually we will not be seen as a fringe group. We have to keep on keepin’ on. You are awesome and your great energy has a positive impact. Don’t ever forget it.

#651 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 7:16 pm

Working my way through all these great posts. It takes a long time because I don’t want to miss any.

562 Fred
Posters . . . you bet . . . save my computer some ink.
Be glad to post in MA

#566
loved cideo “Backstabbers” I was upset when Leahy
drank the kool-aid. Always figured him for an intelligent
and independent person. SEnt him an e-mail to that effect back then . . . BP (before PUMA )

#652 DancesWithPumas on 07.01.08 at 7:17 pm

I wouldn’t mind if faith-based organizations dip into the federal coffers, as long as they start paying state and federal income taxes.

#653 cosmeta on 07.01.08 at 7:18 pm

#302 Dreyfus3 NJ on 07.01.08 at 2:36 pm, WROTE

[[ #180 cosmeta:

What section of the paper would we put this in? I am searching cost in NJ]]

Think the cheapest section for a 3-line ad would be the Personal section under Classified ads. It is not the best place for a political ad, but a LOT of people look there for garage sales, dating, social events, etc. Plus, they will store them for days on end to refer back to up and coming events. It’s worth a coordinated effort. At least it can’t hurt. None of us would have to leave any personal information… just lead folks to here!

#654 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 7:20 pm

http://www.lingo2word.com/lists/emoticon_listA.html

Check out this link. It has pages of info for web texting, emoticons, etc. Print it out and keep it next to your keyboard.

#655 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 7:20 pm

I nominate OnlyHill #627 for giving the quote of the day:

‘because as Thomas Jefferson once said, “the price of democracy is eternal vigilance”!’

#656 Middle age female on 07.01.08 at 7:22 pm

Maya Angelou - I believe I read somewhere where she now supports BO.

#657 Peggy Sue on 07.01.08 at 7:23 pm

Hey Middle-Aged Female!

Think your post was #438. I knew when I used that reference–the pot calling the kettle black–that if you were of the mind to find fault, to point and claim racism that this is the sort of phrase someone might call you out on.

I don’t mean any offense but political correctness has become a sickness in this country. And the Obamatrons go out of their way to parse everything and turn it into a “racial statement.”

My Irish grandmother used this phrase and I’ll be damned if a bunch of thugs will turn the screw, make me hesitate about everything and anything I say or write.

Won’t do it. Not here, not elsewhere, not ever. Words “are” important, but they’re cheapened and rendered valueless when twisted and scewed.

We cannot let that happen. I love words too much to ever “go along to get along.”

Take care.

#658 Taffy on 07.01.08 at 7:23 pm

not all emoticons work in a blog though :(

#659 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 7:26 pm

#531 ClintonRules -still here? curious about your friend wanting to meet you somewhere to talk about Obama instead of just talking on the phone. kinda weird.

#660 virginia.puma on 07.01.08 at 7:28 pm

Hey guys. I am VA PUMA but I cannot get on that way anymore. So i created a gmail account. Hence the new name…..the same me….the same passion about PUMA.

#661 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 7:29 pm

We are defending our freedom of speech and to dissent regardless of the tactics of :<)

Testing a couple. Are those eyes wide enough? #658, that is true, Taffy.

#662 Middle age female on 07.01.08 at 7:29 pm

MURPHY - just like we told Hillary - WE GOT YOUR BACK!!!

#663 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 7:30 pm

Yep, the “Puma” did not appear. One more time.

#664 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 7:30 pm

# 616 Political Party
Great idea but I don’t think we’re quite there yet.
It may be too late to get on ballots - you know how difficult they make it for 3rd parties, won’t even let them in on debates.

#618
Natural coalition: Gays and the people who want to convert, change, or eliminate them. Huh???? Maybe Obama is drinking his own kool-aid.

I noted the post about a video game on McCain’s site.
We could have a video featuring “Train Your Hound”.
We could give the hounds names like: Dean, Pelosi,
Kennedy, Kerry, and give them doggy treats when they learned to be civilized like not baying at the moon.

#665 scathcart on 07.01.08 at 7:31 pm

#654 Jeremy, Thank you for the word list.

#666 grlpatriot on 07.01.08 at 7:31 pm

#588 DancesWithPumas

Thanks. It’s important to get the facts out there so it doesn’t undermine the movement.

#667 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 7:31 pm

#662 agree on that.

#668 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 7:31 pm

#657 Peggy Sue

Yes, I hear what you are saying. There is nothing racist about the “pot calling the kettle black.” Your comment reminds me of what happened to a friend of mine who used the term “Black Belt” to describe a region in Alabama. People assumed she was talking about African-Americans and claimed that her statement was racist because she made a factual statement about the history of how juries tend to render verdicts in the Black Belt. Actually, the Black Belt DOES NOT relate to race, but to the color of the soil in that region, which is rich farm country. Anyway, my friend, who doesn’t have a racist bone in her body, just got lambasted by these politically correct idiots. It was so wrong.

#669 antifish on 07.01.08 at 7:31 pm

#664 mpdamon,

LOL, That’s hillarious!

#670 snowtiger on 07.01.08 at 7:31 pm

I don’t get nasty e-mails from obambots. I feel unloved.
So for all you kool-aid sippin geniuses out there
Snowtiger007pp@yahoo.com.
Make sure you get the “pp” there.
After reading your posts on other blogs I can’t wait to see the level of intelligence, not to mention command of the English language, that will be demonstrated by your private e-mails. Rofl.

#671 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 7:32 pm

where did our little piepie go??

#672 nutmegbelle on 07.01.08 at 7:32 pm

Hypothetically, if Americans overwhelmingly vote McCain, could BO have a case for racism?

#673 snowtiger on 07.01.08 at 7:33 pm

I will of course share the best of the e-mails here. :)

#674 Dragonfly on 07.01.08 at 7:33 pm

#664 mpdamon, I love it! LOL

#675 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 7:33 pm

# 562
This is one of my pet peeves - - tax exempt groups that want federal funds but don’t want to pay taxes.
Are you from MA? I enjoy your comments. If you have spare time someday (ha,ha,ha)and want to chat feel
free to e-mail me @ mpdamon@comcast.net

#676 loca2525 on 07.01.08 at 7:34 pm

Hello everyone, I just found this out about the convention, someone posted it on myspace:

More information has been revealed about Denver’s plans to control protesters during the Democratic National Convention in August. Local and federal officials are setting up a so-called public demonstration zone that they plan to fence off with chicken wire or chain link. The American Civil Liberties Union has criticized the plan comparing it to the set up in Boston during the DNC in 2004 when the protest zone was inside a cage.

http://www.democracynow.org

#677 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 7:34 pm

665 scathcart~ No problem, but they don’t all work on a blog. My “Puma” did not come through.

#678 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 7:34 pm

LOL snowtiger thats a good one

#679 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 7:36 pm

#672
Conversely, if Americans overwhelmingly vote for Obama does McCain have a case for ageism?

Poetic justice would be that if Obama does win this election, he’s going to have to explain to these rabid supporters why gas keeps going up to @ $7.00 per gallon and NOTHING much changes ( for the better that is ). Ever seen a pack of rabid hounds . . . not pretty!

#680 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 7:38 pm

I really don’t see how they can treat us like that. It will cause more anger and there could be blood shed from this treating us all like animals and i’m not talking about us i’m talking about the chosen ones supporters.They are crazy

#681 snowtiger on 07.01.08 at 7:38 pm

Thank you Sandipuma. I can’t wait. :)
Should be amusing.

#682 InuHanyou1701 on 07.01.08 at 7:38 pm

#604 piepiepie75

I’m a gamer and I see so much of this open hostility among just that hobby. And what amazes me is that it’s not just our age group, it’s also adults. These people feel the need to “defend the honor of their chosen console” and I see the same mentality among Obama supporters. Often times this kind of loyalty is blind. They don’t really know why they are doing it. They’re just doing it. My feeling about it is, you’re passionate about something but you don’t know why. Therefore, logic dictates that you’re not really as passionate about it as you think you are. I kind of went off on a tangent there… did that make any sense?

#683 Lin4Hill on 07.01.08 at 7:40 pm

#603 AZClintonDemocrat - Thanks for your comments–I needed that. We have accomplished a lot and we have to fortify ourselves even more now–that’s why we need the silent watching PUMAS to growl in their own way. This fight is just getting started. And it looks ugly, based on the tactics these Juniorettes are employing.

We have to find ways to make more people realize we are not hate-mongering racists. We are fighting for our democracy now. What started off as outrage and grief for a wonderful candidate being ambushed and dragged off the road of her successful campaign has evolved into a closer examination of the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and our profound belief that Americans have been sold a shady bill of goods. We can’t sit by and let this happen.

So, thanks very much

#684 virginia.puma on 07.01.08 at 7:42 pm

A bunch of Obamabots were over at Gretawire last night. Finally they left because they were blasted down by real information each time they postulated something stupidly ridiculous about or by Obama. They did sneak back in during the middle of the night I saw tough. Oh those sneaky little cowards. Lots of people over ther last night and did alot of recruiting for here, so anyone new come today from Gretawire: Welcome!!

#685 nutmegbelle on 07.01.08 at 7:43 pm

Ageism, I hadn’t thought of that - excellent answer, mpdamon-son!!

You know BO is going to use legalese all the way.

Now about that property in N. Dakota, would have be a good idea!!!

#686 scathcart on 07.01.08 at 7:44 pm

Thank you mamapuma, I signed up for the midwest. Still waiting for a confirmation.

#687 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 7:45 pm

Just to let you know that Greta still has not closed her blog about PUMA’s. There are 1048 posts now. If there is any updates that she may need to know maybe post it there before her show tonight and maybe she will address it. This was the first time I have been to her blog so I don’t know if it is normal for her to keep it open for a few days.

#688 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 7:45 pm

check out: sweetness-light.com/archive/new-black-panther-party-supports-obama

Page has since been removed from Obama’s web site.

Is there ANY group of people out there that this person does not pander to?

#689 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 7:45 pm

Greta’s puma blog is:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/#comment-1299851

#690 BigCatLover on 07.01.08 at 7:45 pm

mamapuma
Tried to send email from your Midwest region link and received an unable to send message. Should I just send the info to your regular email address?

#691 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 7:46 pm

Sandipuma regarding #680: My question for them is do they really believe that we are going to change our minds? I can tell you that we are only one group of many that are vocalizing this scandal of what the DNC called an “election.” There is a larger, silent group that will shout this down in November. If they think “we” are a problem, which we are not, they have no idea of those watching and keeping silent, taking mental notes, and will growl Nov. 4.

#692 ontherocks on 07.01.08 at 7:47 pm

In a short time we have become a larger and stronger group. If we keep digging in our heels we can do great things. Getting our message in a some newspapers would be a big help. Making sure we have people in Denver for the conv. would also help.
With all the great minds here we can and will get our message across in a nice and productive way.

#693 scathcart on 07.01.08 at 7:48 pm

Mamapuma, I’m sorry I did get the e-mail and signed up.

#694 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 7:48 pm

Made perfect sense to me #682.

#695 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 7:48 pm

Ok anymore letters to write?? Think i have done them all.

#696 cosmeta on 07.01.08 at 7:49 pm

#108 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 11:25 am, WROTE,

[[ Yikes, Cosmeta - that was a disturbing dream - I wonder if that represents all of US -]]

I don’t usually recall dreams, but that one bothered me the entire day. Think it was a combination of seeing several commericals now using the phrase, “We CAN do it” using BHO’s slogon chant; plus listening to his speech yesterday (or the day prior) on patriotism… Where he said, Patriotism is being allowed to dissent our government. And although that is our basic right as Americans, for an American President to say it or even a candidate invites discord. I was equating that with CNN’s Roland Martins constant reminder to the viewer, saying constantly: The REALITY IS…. WE HAVE TO understand how the black community is interpreting the same remarks. And he is right because BHO often uses double-speak. So when he does that nice speech but inserts the idea that dissent is a GOOD THING, I wonder what the average black community is thinking. Not just toward government but those like us who will not vote for him in the fall.

I think anyone who is threatened, especially in real life should file a police report. Just take out your cell phone and snap a picture of their car licence plate if you can.

#697 ontherocks on 07.01.08 at 7:49 pm

mamapuma,

I signed up for the northeast region. Hopefull we will have many more joining.

#698 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 7:51 pm

ANTIFISH:
Thanks for sending Olbermann and Matthews a letter. :)

#699 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 7:53 pm

Inform Greta on that blog on how much we have grown since her blog went up last night. One easy way to get the word out and maybe we will get some free air time tonight. If that blog grows like crazy before her show she will have to address it.

#700 cosmeta on 07.01.08 at 7:53 pm

Only heard part of BHO’s faith based initiative speech today to win over the Evangelicals… Not if they hear about Jeremiah Wright!!! No way in hell!!!

#701 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 7:54 pm

There was a popular song back during the 80’s:

Hey Ronnie Reagan I’m black and I’m pagan
I’m gay and I’m left and I’m free.
I’m a non-fundamentalist, environmentalist
so please, don’t bother me.

#702 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 7:54 pm

I sent a letter last night to letters@guardian.co.uk thats the newspaper that reported President Bill Clinton saying Kiss My A$$ . I told them how bad this selection has been from day one and the first debate up to now. I told them about Pumapac and who and what we are and why. I think if we sent enough letters to them and other news papers over seas it is very good for us. It will get back to the news and the DNC here. It will make us look strong

#703 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 7:54 pm

Those letters everyone sent today also post it on Greta’s blog too. Maybe just inform her that you sent the same letter as the one posted above sort of thing. Or post the whole letter again.

#704 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 7:55 pm

substitute Barack Obama for Ronnie Reagan

#705 Hillmania on 07.01.08 at 7:55 pm

Hey I just learned something new thanks to TAFFY and JEREMY I now know how to do emoticons.
:-x “-))) @+

#706 virginia.puma on 07.01.08 at 7:55 pm

Jwewmy~ Nope, they cannot change my mind for sure. But I doubt we will be able to change any Obamabots minds as well. Our est tactic is to vote for McCain in my mind, others have their own was of sending their message I know. I had this dream last night cause I was doing the Greta blog and all the information on security in Denver, and how they were going to use these “gut buster” guns on us, and fence us off etc etc etc. Well, I was standing on the Convention stairs and I looked out at over millions of people. No one said one word, but each held a PUMA sign. Then they (we) just started marching in place. No one moved, but the sound of our shoes against the pavement started ratting the Center. The sound just grew and grew, and still no one said one word. It was great, just great, until I realized the thumping sound was my cat beating his paw on the window to wake me to feed her. VA PUMA

#707 NotFallingInLine on 07.01.08 at 7:55 pm

#688 mpdamon - No, there isn’t. And some of his supporters are getting just a teensy-weensy bit upset about it. Poor sweeties.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/1/05546/22532/562/544544

#708 KYkitten on 07.01.08 at 7:55 pm

@mpdamon– maybe we should send leashes as a daily growl to let them know the hounds should be on a leash and that we’re not on one! or something like that lol–

@ kettle black thing- yeah i see both sides of it; i used it to in my post to greta and didn’t even give it a thought and certainly didn’t have any hidden meaning w/ it. It’s like “go with the flow ” to me or catch more flies with honey than vinegar…I mean it’s just a saying

#709 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 7:56 pm

I believe it will make a great dent in what we are doing.

#710 virginia.puma on 07.01.08 at 7:57 pm

Jeremy~ sorry. I really can think and type at the same time. VA PUMA

#711 PA4HILL08 on 07.01.08 at 7:58 pm

Calling All Pumas!

I just uploaded to the Action Center, an excerpt from George Washington’s Farewell Address to the People of the United States. In this particular excerpted section, Washington discusses the potential ‘dangers’ to our Union from out of control political parties. It’s a surprisingly prophetic speech, given the events of our present time, and in it he calls for all citizens (The People) to be ever vigilant against those very things that appear to be playing out in the Dem Party in 2008. Kind of scary stuff. Anyway, enjoy!

http://pumapacusa.org/washingtons-farewell.html

#712 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 7:58 pm

I tried to get into the Hounds site earlier but it did not come up.I wonder why??? Did we scare Eddy boy??

#713 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 7:59 pm

Now there’s an idea . . . video game called “Leash The Hound”.

Just remember PUMAS, you catch more hounds with bisquits than you do with whips.

#714 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 8:00 pm

Has anyone else try it today??? LOL no one had gone in there but us lol

#715 deadgirlsrise on 07.01.08 at 8:03 pm

Greta’s PUMA Blog is still running, I just posted a little while ago! If you did not get your chance, go have your say! If you spoke already, speak some more. This is an internation forum. Tell them your experience, and what this movement means to you!

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/#comment-1298279

#716 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 8:03 pm

Interesting

#717 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 8:05 pm

va puma~ I heard that the “secret weapon” was called the “crapper cannon.” lol If it exists, I guess the ole strategy of “duck and cover” won’t help.mmmm.

#718 doria on 07.01.08 at 8:07 pm

Posted my comment to Amanda.

I was listening to Rush today and evidently there are alot of AA politicians who supported Hillary who are now facing primary challenges..because of that support.

Of course, we feel the same way about Kerry, Wexler etc. because we feel they abandoned the most qualified candidate.

But the Democratic party is in real trouble! For years they have used Identity politics to promote themselves.

The chickens have come home to roost!

#719 jbjd on 07.01.08 at 8:08 pm

I am white. When I was a young girl, my family lived in an all white suburb west of Boston. Our last name is Brown. The adults in the neighborhood called me the ‘little Brown girl.’ My son is black. We fell in love at first sight. Before his adoption was finalized, the white social worker employed by the state, who had placed him with me, visited to check on how we were getting along. My son, almost 3, now wanted nothing to do with her, and disappeared into his room. I coaxed him back. ‘Come here, you little Brown boy.’ Slowly, he eased on over to me, climbed onto my lap, and buried his head in my chest. The social worker was stunned. ‘That’s what you call him, the little brown boy?’ ‘Yes,’ I replied matter-of-factly, ‘that’s his name.’

#720 murphy on 07.01.08 at 8:08 pm

Hi Folks, wow! the Action is humming tonight!

I will be on and off the comment threads tonight. MANY emails to go through — sorry if you havent heard from me in a few hours. I DO get your emails.

If anyone is commenting at Pandagon still you may want to ask why Amanda decided to publish my home address on her front page. Just because information is public doesn’t mean it’s decent to broadcast it to the world — esp. in the context of an attack.

BRB

#721 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 8:09 pm

hey va puma~I for one do not revise/edit blogs. My mind goes too fast for my fingers to keep up and select the right keys. :)

#722 Goalucard4Hill on 07.01.08 at 8:10 pm

Thank you for your response PIE PIE PIE - so sad that they all can not be like you and see the truth for what it is - as I said yesterday - glad you are on our team.

Drac

#723 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 8:12 pm

#649 TAFFY But yours is yellow! Also, when I did it I got a frown.

I can’t watch the news anymore, I just saw the annointed one clapping with the holy rollers in church. This is tooooo much for me. I’m a borderline agnostic and I can’t deal with this. Also, Chuck Hagel and Colin Powell are on the bandwagon. Powell met with both McCain and Obama but news said he is leaning Obama. And what’s with Chuck Hagel?

#724 Witchy 1 on 07.01.08 at 8:12 pm

I have been asked to post the following letter:
Dear fellow Democrats,
I am pleased to inform you the first meeting of the Advisory Committee on the Texas Democratic Party Convention/Caucus System has been scheduled. Headed by Senator Royce West, this first of several meetings will convene at the Austin Community College Health Science Building, Building 9000 in the Multi Purpose Hall room 8500 in Austin, Texas on July 7, 2008 at 10:00am. The campus is located at 3401 Webberville Rd, Austin, Texas 78702.
This Committee which Senator West and I have appointed has been charged with studying the current convention/caucus system. Furthermore, based on the testimony taken at these meetings, the committee will then consider this feedback and possibly make recommendations for changes.
While all meetings will be open to the public, the first committee meeting will be limited to invited testimony only. Senator West and the Committee members wish to use this initial meeting as an informational session. They will discuss with current and former Party leaders the history and development of the current convention/caucus system.
Those wishing to participate at this meeting are encouraged to submit written testimony to the Committee, or complete an online survey, available on the Texas Democratic Party website. Additionally, there will be other hearings held in Austin and throughout the state where public testimony will be taken in order to learn about your personal experience with the convention/caucus system. Those hearings will be scheduled at a later date.
So whether it is by completing the online survey or by attending the upcoming Committee meetings, I hope you will take a moment to share your thoughts. Your feedback will play an important role as we continue to explore our current Democratic Primary process. Only by working together will we be able to grow and strengthen as a Party.
Thank you again for helping us make your Party stronger and more unified than ever before.
Your friend and fellow Democrat,
Boyd L. Richie

Witchy 1

#725 PA4HILL08 on 07.01.08 at 8:14 pm

Another great quote:

“Those who profess to favor freedom, yet deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightening. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” – Frederick Douglass, African-American abolitionist

#726 virginia.puma on 07.01.08 at 8:14 pm

So what’s new? Just another type of Poo machine utilized by Obama.

#727 doria on 07.01.08 at 8:15 pm

Murphy or Mamapuma…Corbett had 3 hours of radio in PA yesterday on Puma and Hounds. Curious if you had any new PA pumas join today.

#728 OnlyHill on 07.01.08 at 8:15 pm

#655 Dragonfly

Thanks for the honor of the Jefferson quote! For seven little words it speaks volumes to any informed citizen who chooses to be vigilant. That’s what I love so much about the Puma movement—Puma’s are vigilant and feisty critters:-)

#729 wontbackdown on 07.01.08 at 8:19 pm

Just completed sending letters to BO and Rendell received in email from PUMA (MarylandPuma).

Excellent letter! Was proud to send thme and sign my name!

#730 diva2 on 07.01.08 at 8:19 pm

Just watching Fox. Maybe this was already posted but apparently the General Wes Clark is not only not apologizing for the comments about McCain but now saying even more things. Also, Lanny is talking and is not happy about Clark. Another guy Rick Sartorum? a Fox contributor said he was confident that noname definitely had to know about this and he believes that is part of noname’s well-calculated strategy.

Just and FyI

diva2

#731 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 8:20 pm

#702 SANDIPUMA Except now Bubba is going to campaign with him. If both he and Hillary campaign with him, it won’t matter to us, but they could get some others to drink the kool-aid.
Also, McCain is now touting the Columbian free trade agreement. If he keeps that up, he won’t get the bitter people in OH & PA. I can’t believe this is happening -that we have two unqualified candidates and we have to vote the lesser of the two evils. COME BACK, HILLARY!!!

#732 wontbackdown on 07.01.08 at 8:22 pm

Veeeerrrrry interesting!

Someone said Hillary’s site no longer has BO information on it… Went there to check it out. It’s true

#733 PA4HILL08 on 07.01.08 at 8:22 pm

#724 Witchy 1 on 07.01.08 at 8:12 pm

——————————

Witchy 1,

I hope you don’t mind, I copied and posted the letter you presented here in the Action Center on the “Action Alerts” page for our members in TX who may be interested in getting involved in this meeting. Thanks for sharing!

PP Action Center:
http://pumapacusa.org

#734 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 8:24 pm

#723 ladyhawkke~Where did you hear the part regarding Colin Powell? I know you said “on the news.” When someone today say that the source is “on the news” that automatically becomes ??? I am in no way doubting you, but if Colin Powell jumps on Barack’s wagon, he better have a credible reason and it better not be fluff like “his achievements as a community organizer are historic” or “he has the gift of communicating new ideas.” I would expect more from Mr. Powell…and I think many other Americans would as well. Regarding Hagel, he is a disgruntled Republican who threatened to change to Independent and even considered running as a Independent back in January. As for Mr. Powell….I will leave it with this…he better give a substantial reason to his backing.

#735 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 8:26 pm

I also checked out Hillary’s site and your right there is no BO info what does that mean?

#736 InuHanyou1701 on 07.01.08 at 8:26 pm

#720 murphy

Yikes! They posted your home address? That’s COMPLETELY uncalled for!

#737 sandipuma on 07.01.08 at 8:27 pm

Great witchy1

#738 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 8:29 pm

There is no need to publish someone’s home address. That is completely uncalled for.

#739 ladyhawkke on 07.01.08 at 8:30 pm

#732 WONTBACKDOWN You’re right, Obambi’s name isn’t there anymore! Whoopee! I’ll bet she took his name off because people were wondering if the empty suit would be getting the $$. Good for her. We need to keep supporting her, bugging Pelosi and the DNC and insist that a roll call be had at the Convention. We don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors.

#740 wontbackdown on 07.01.08 at 8:32 pm

Listening ina the background to Will Bower on BlogTalk Radio! Execellent to hear about how fasts and large the coalition of PUMAS is growing!

Congratulations PUMA! We did not join the “movement”

… and are fast becoming a REAL PHENOM!

… long after BO and the Hounds fade into the sunset… PUMAS will all be gathering on the mountain, talking about what a difference we made in our country, today!

…from election reform, finance reform, to restoring our Democracy…

…Who would have ever thought that the best men for the job turned out to be a “PUMAS”!

#741 Jeremy on 07.01.08 at 8:33 pm

Also, Lanny is talking and is not happy about Clark. Another guy Rick Sartorum?

If these two are on the same page, Barack needs to be clapping real hard at those churches drowning out any comments they are saying in his regards. Rick Santorum is one smart guy, regardless that he is a Republican. He won’t be afraid to call Barack out on things. That is my opinion.

#742 vadaryl on 07.01.08 at 8:34 pm

Each passing day I am finding it harder and harder to even look at a picture of BHO. I am now at a point that if he even picks Hillary as his VP I won’t vote for him. I still have a little hope that Hillary will somehow pull this out at the convention. Am I crazy?

#743 bmw60 on 07.01.08 at 8:34 pm

I wanted to share this letter from a donedem.com blogger… she inspired me and I just had to share… hope this isn’t too long, but my oh my I wish I could express myself like this:

Hi ya’ll….Suzanne from Fl (used to be on Hill’s site)…I am sooo glad our numbers are growing and we are organzing and gaining strength in numbers daily! Here’s my letter I posted back before Hill took the only road left to her:

I am 44 years old, and was never much interested in politics. So, you know, when all this primary stuff started a year ago, I really didn’t have much interest in any of the candidates specifically, only “let’s get anyone else in there other than Bush”. But, I started watching the debates and reading up on all the candidates. In a perfect, ideal world, we wouldn’t be voting for a person because of their “Party” and friends, we would be voting for that individual who has a track record of crossing those very lines and trying to get the important things we all want in life: health, wealth, harmony and happiness, regardless of, gasp, party affiliation. Quite quickly, I realized Senator Clinton was head and shoulders above Obama and the others, on every issue, on judgment, character and certainly experience. She frankly blew me away with her command of the issues. I found myself picking the person that has a track record of what I am looking for. That person is Senator Clinton. She has worked hard and diligently for all Americans, and spent years (35) building strong relationships because she has a passionate vision of what America can be. She became MY candidate. “Hill-R-We”, became my mantra.

When I read that the “party leaders were tired” of the Clinton campaign bringing up the FL & MI votes during the past few weeks, I thought: well, E-X-C-U-S-E ME! I am tired of not having a say in a Presidential election, I am tired of not having my vote count, I am tired of no insurance, I am tired of little business in a struggling economy, and I am REALLY tired of some out-of-touch, well-paid, Washington fatcats deciding they know more than their constituents! The straw that broke this voter’s back was the way the DNC mishandled the FL and MI votes. That is NOT democracy, NOT the values of the Democratic Party and certainly NOT my values! They are clueless if they think we will act like lemmings and “fall in line”.

The media has mounted the most biased, blatant one-sided campaign for Obama that frankly reeks of more than just voter suppression. What happened to journalistic integrity? What happened to objective reporting and let the voters decide? The misogynistic, gender bias that exists in this country is deplorable (from pundits, party leaders, the media) and demanding Senator Clinton give in to the DNC and “follow their lead” , they want her to back Obama even after she won the popular vote, it would send a message that it is Ok to trash talk a leading woman politician, to belittle her accomplishments as if she were “just someone’s wife”, and this would send a message to every man out there to pile it on, to ignore and expect every woman to “get in line” like a good girl, for the betterment of society. Even if that very woman is the most accomplished candidate out there, or the most qualified professional for the job. What kind of message is that to send to our mothers, sisters, daughters, and sons?

This primary race has revealed a very flawed, twisted system and I for one am happily going back to my long-term Independent status, since Senator Clinton is not the nominee. I would love nothing more than for Hillary to run as an Independent candidate with 18+ million supporters strong. The Democratic Party is gone in my eyes. They have turned their back on the voters, on Senator Clinton, and on all that is good in this country. Manipulating the media, the voters, and the very “democratic” process itself has exposed our system as nothing better than any other country with flawed elections, tampering and propaganda. Shame on America, Shame on the Democrats, Shame on you DNC.
Senator Clinton is the right choice, the ONLY choice for me in ‘08.
Hillary, my humble message to you is this: Since the “boys club” in Washington can’t take your strength, poise, intelligence and perseverance and the DNC chose instead to nominate an inexperienced, slick, elitist politician, then PLEASE run as an Independent. Your 18 million supporters, to date, are behind you and we want YOU as our next President. Period. If that can’t be, then McCain it is!

#744 MountainSong on 07.01.08 at 8:35 pm

This campaign has become insane, disgusting, and insanely disgusting. HBO sounds like Santa Claus, promising everything to everyone in every demographic group, MSM acts like we don’t even exist, yada, yada, yada. I think the only way to stop Owanna is to stop his sugar mama, NOprah, but it’s prolly too late.
And the choice we face is between two idiots. Wall street thinks Owanna can fix the economy.
It’s insane. Here is this guy who is half-white, trying to register as many unregistered blacks as he can. If that’s not making it racial, I don’t know what would.
Well, here in the Pacific NW, I know of at least two towns where you can’t even BUY a gun…..because they are all sold out and have been since the end of the primaries. If Owanna really cared about this country, as he says, he would be telling the black supporters to calm down and the rest of his supporters to cease with the attacks on those of us who disagree with him. But…he keeps it up and the proverbial poop is going to hiot the proverbial fan.<