OBAMA SUPPORTERS ATTEMPTING TO SILENCE OPPONENTS WITH ILLEGAL INTERNET VANDALISM
Read this breaking story at the New York Times online about Obama supporters’ successful attempts to squelch political dissent and trample the civil rights of those who oppose him. Puma PAC’s Blogspot site was attacked and shut down by Obama’s supporters on June 25 through today. We are still unable to access our content or even reach anyone at Google (owner of Blogspot) to protect our site. Be sure to leave comments. Read and comment HERE.
Our Wikipedia page has been repeatedly hacked, vandalized, and deleted. This is in direct violation of Wikipedia’s policy and philosophy of shared knowledge building and the free-flow of ideas.
Once again, Senator Obama, his supporters, and the DNC leadership who endorse his candidacy are FAILING to stand up to the thuggish, illegal, and unprincipled behavior of these vandals — destructive and menacing attacks made by so-called progressive Democrats on other Democrats.
Send an email to Sen. Obama, asking him to CALL OFF HIS DOGS! Email him HERE.
THE DAILY GROWL 6/30/08
Be sure to read today’s Daily Growl and send your APPLICATION FOR DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008 to Howard Dean. Get your Growl! HERE.
PUMA IS ONE MONTH OLD TODAY!
Feels like years doesn’t it? The justifiably famous, and famously kind, blogger SM from The Confluence is the Godmother of the Puma Movement. She is the one who coined the defiantly witty phrase “Party Unity My Ass” at The Confluence on June 1, 2008. The rest, as they say, is history in the making! Read her marvelous post about the birth of Puma HERE. Thank you SM, for your inspiration, support, and endless encouragement.
HOUND DOGS ARE BRED TO HUNT
I don’t think the Obama Movement is very happy with us today. Remember, these guys are relentless, unprincipled, and implacable. We are facing an enormous task. The trolling, the intimidation, the bullying, and the harassing IS NOT GOING TO STOP. Today in the parking lot of my local grocery store I was harassed and insulted by a condescending blowhard who had absolutely NO QUALMS about yelling at me in public when I was alone with my 7 year old. Not because he had any idea that I’m associated with Puma PAC — simply because of the Hillary Clinton bumper sticker on my goofy old minivan. No big deal, right? WRONG. It IS a big deal. Obama has lost the election already. His followers are not ready to accept that, however, and MANY of them are angry. Our greatest strength is in numbers, so PLEASE — spread the word. There is safety and strength in numbers. Talk to your friends and family about the ugly turn the Obama Movement is taking.
Harassing women in grocery store parking lots?
Deleting wikipedia pages?
Spray-painting cars?
Shutting down websites?
This must stop. Ask five friends and family members to join Puma PAC today so that we can stand up to these THUGS together. JOIN HERE.
390 comments ↓
Hello
vadaryl~regarding Hillary as Barack’s VP. It isn’t gonna happen in my opinion.
#1 wontbackdown
hello
I agree it’s not going to happen
goandersen… Goodmorning everyone! Wish I could be downstairs flipping an egg and up here typing at the same time???
If they take her off the ballot then that’s it. She got 18 million votes, you cannot take that away.
So, on the count of three… let’s make our request of Seantor Obummer to call his dogs off.
1……..
2………….
3………………..! Go Pumas
Happy Birthday PUMAS! It is hard to believe one month. WOW!
#1 wontbackdown and #3 danceswithpumas
Hello to both of you
#3 DancesWithPumas… it’s my first time #1. Caught me by surprise! I was trying to beat goandersen.
#9 1of18MilforHill08
Is there anything we can do to stop him and his crew from taking her off the ballot?
I posted this downstairs maybe you all have seen this if not please read this:
http://www.gopusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46726
#10 wontbackdown
Well congrads to you for being first and to all of us for our one month birthday!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUMApac PUMAS!!!
888 posts what a night.
#9 1of18MilforHill08
In celebration of the birthday of PUMA, can we all click the link and email Senator Obama to call off his fans?
I already sent mine.
#6vadaryl~True. And besides, I would be curious to see a show of “paws” here that would support that ticket. At one time many dreamed of it. My dream ticket of them was after the California Debate. Her the nominee and Barack the VP. That would have been a 50 state victory. But that was before Wright, etc. If anyone has the chance to watch that debate…do it. The chemistry between the two is impressive. CSPAN keeps archives and it was sponsored by CNN. The last time I logged onto CNN, they had it in their Political Resources Video Archives.
How about?
Hillary Hailstorm or Raining McCain! Cause your not in Kansas anymore Chosen One!
#5 wontbackdown
I thought you went to bed. Didn’t I hear bed springs??
I saw a Clinton/Obama ticket back then too. Not so sure now either way. But if he’s pick’s her now I am on the fence.
#10 wontbackdown
you cheated. You said you were going to bed.
#17 danceswithpumas
How about we list them on http://www.houndfinders.com kinda like the petfinder web page. Maybe someone can rescue them…..NOT!
happy birthday to us, happy birthday to us, happy birthday to uhhhuus. Happy Birthday to US!
And many moooooorrrrre!
Maybe tomorrow Greta will discuss the blog. I can’t see how she can’t
#23
#5 wontbackdown
get a hotplate??
#23 My Post
Sorry did not mean to list http://www. part of my joke post. SORRY Murphy…..:(
#12 vadaryl
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t Senator Clinton have to authorize her name being taken off the ballot for it to be done? Although… knowing the DNC they will convinentl… (Ok…. seriously… what’s wrong with my spelling skills tonight. They seem to have jumped ship…) forget their own rules. They’ve already done it once. Why not twice?
Interesting in the past when I suggested a McCain/Clinton ticket I got laughed at, now it’s a different story.
#23 1of18MilforHill08
Too much pain medication… I actually clicked on that houndfinders link:
Did you mean: http://www holidayfinders com/
LOL
#26 1of18Mil
Oh Yeah. Let’s go! I’m in.
#23 My Post
Sorry did not mean to list http://www. part of my joke post. SORRY Murphy…..:(
Are we not supposed to post links?
#22 goandersen… BO said he was a uniter, too.
#27 DancesWithPumas..(((LOL!)))
#26 1o18mil
I thought it was real. LOL! You got me!
#30 vadaryl
=P There’s a ticket I would vote for without any hesitation! It’s too bad it will never happen. =’(
wontbackdown… easy for you to laugh! lol
Well I am out of here Pumas…..did not get to many cat naps today….had alot of appts. Have a good one…try to behave.
Just looked in on the aol straw poll and all 50 states are red…but Obuma is probably still holding out HOPE for the other 8 states !
34 wontbackdown
huh?
Hello, cats,
I have been so busy lately, I haven’t had time to read the comments or post. But I have read Murphy’s statements at the beginning of each thread. You are on *fire*, Murphy!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, PUMAs!
I hope I get my PUMA Pac T-shirt soon!
NYCgirl
What’s this story about City vehicles being vandalized in Orlando?
Hi NYCgirl.
I grew up in NYC
38 1of 18Mil
Night
#33 danceswithpumas
I think we can post links? It is just that I was making a joke and it is a pretend site I used as part of my post. Did not want ppl to think it was for real…..Sorry….but it should be a site - HAHAHA
Ok i remembered now if you want to vote for whom ever you want at the last minute you have to be registered as a NO Afiliation . Thats what the lady signing people up for the election was saying. And there were people changing to No Afiliation because they didn’t want to vote for Obama. I also told them that Hillary had suspended and she did not concede and that it was the DNC trying to make Obumbus look like the candidate and that things can change. I mentioned i was a puma and who and what we were about. I do not have any cards . I wish i did.
What’s this story about City vehicles being vandalized in Orlando
VADaryl 23 cars vandalized left puma cards with negative stuff written about mccain obama and positive stuff about senator clinton.
#33 danceswithpumas
I think we can post links? It is just that I was making a joke and it is a pretend site I used as part of my post. Did not want ppl to think it was for real…..Sorry….but it should be a site - HAHAHA
Be the change you wish to see… just do it!
Thanks NYC Girl — shirts are shipping next week (running late, sorry!) but they ARE beautiful and will be worn with pride.
Pumas, email me anytime if you have questions about orders, contributions, or anything like that — I will respond promptly.
Just sent my e-mail to Bo. Signing off - severe t-storms about to hit.
yep — links are fine. More than 5 in one post will get caught in the spam filter.
murphy is there anyway to trace those who messed up the site?
46 sandipuma
so let me get this straight. If you are an Independent, you can not vote Dem or Rebup, you have to be non affiliated?
46 sandipuma
what state are you in?
#44 goanderson
Night
FYI for the evening - in the early thread someone mentioned about something they heard about the AL voters fraud. I guess it is for real. On Fox News they had the attorney general on from AL and they are investigating WIDE spread voters fraud, including but not limited ppl being PAID for there votes. $40 to $100? Imagine that - doesn’t surprise me.
Thank you for the updates Murphy, always helps to know where to focus in the media, the growl and family
#21vadaryl~for now, I just don’t see that happening. Look at Unity last Friday. The tone of that farce was enough to settle the question for me. Besides, she has earned a position better than that. I think she would become quickly bored with it. Her talent and strength instinctually would drive her if asked “Thanks, but not interested.” Even if by some surprise she was offered it, I could not support it with my vote as it stands. A long way to Denver and August, hey?
In the general election you can vote for any party, regardless of previous affiliation.
Only what we should expect from anti-American socialists!!
PUMA!!!
Has to be a set up. I can’t believe Hillary/PUMA supporters would do that. We need positive things and in FL to boot. This makes me sick. We need to find out who did this.
Happy Birthday Pumas - some of us started a little celebration earlier this afternoon - I didn’t join until the 5th - took me awhile to think on everything - either way I’m here -
Murphy - I’m going to email you tomorrow - got a couple of questions regarding some publicity - tv & newsprint……………
was up really early today - so am ready to sleep now - night eddie-bob & friends, nite pumas…………………
58 notfollowwingthe..
That is what I thought.
#20 goandersen…”thought you went to bed?
My 34 wontbackdown… Bo said… (I lied)
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Seriously re: Murphys statements above on what’s happening and likely to get worse as the drama unfolds that he won’t be elected:
Maybe time for not only increasing our numbers, but how we respond to these kind of assaults.
Example: One publicly, verbally assaults, take a plate #, file a report.
Jack with our emails… report it as Phishing/identity theft/spamming/whatever sticks.
We may also want to see what it would take ($$$) to start a legal fund for PUMA and its members?
…(and a group health/life insurance plan (lol)?)
You know… hate crimes are “CRIMINAL”
I was thinking Clarke as Hillary running mate but after what he said yesterday forget him.
#63 wontbackdown
you drinking coffee? LOL Momma slow down.
We do need to document any and all assaults. Maybe we need an ‘assault dungeon’ for storage
64 wontbackdown
we could send the evidence to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Obama has a smear website how about a PUMA smear link.
So is voter intimidation, harassment, threats, etc., in an election year?
The Obummer campaign reminds me of the bunglers of Watergate. Sloppy thieves and liars. Like a kid who hides something under their bed thinking no one will ever find it there. Goofy.
BTW - was over at riverdaughter celebrating the birthday & micheal…….said something about Diane w/hireheels being attacked - here is the update:
‘well here is the pattern in our case:
1. a foul language (doctored with symbols instead of letters to get throu the filter i guess) post is sent
2. followed by a call was made poster threatening
3. attempted physical contact (party dressed as a plice man no badge)
Provided to keep you safe-mawn gary and RD
fuzzybeargville’
this is getting scary guys - those bots are thugs………………………
65 vardyl
It is disheartening to watch this people parade before us toward beaniebobo. It is so hard to watch.
I am not convinced that it is authentic or real. I think it is all a huge smoke screen.
I don’t believe it Larry Sinclair just posted on Greta. Will he get the Rev. Manning to post next.
OB took the smear website down the day that guy (can’t recall his name) told his story re: crack or coke and sexual encounter with OB.
The new smear pages are part of ob’s campaign website now.
#67 goandersen… that really is a great idea (SPLC)!
Yeah, darn it… I had a second cup of coffee around 8:00 and I only dring one a day!
.. ping… bamb… zip… bump… whew!
I “DRINGED” two today.
#71 Susie1945
Hi there.
Well, I hope she has a big dog among other things for protection.
They’re trying to disrupt our PUMA momentum and eradicated one of our avenues of comunication. It’s going to backfire on them though.
#71 - Well, I wear 3-in heels - those chicks wear the 4 & 5 in stilettos - can really hurt someone with those…..she is safe according to michael……………..
#71 Susie1945
REPOST: #63 wontbackdown
Example: One publicly, verbally assaults, take a plate #, file a report.
Jack with our emails… report it as Phishing/identity theft/spamming/whatever sticks.
We may also want to see what it would take ($$$) to start a legal fund for PUMA and its members?
…(and a group health/life insurance plan (lol)? - changed my mind….. NOT - “lol”)
I can’t believe no one in the press is going out there and proving Larry’s story one way or another. I don’t believe him but he is doing a good job of exposing how lousy the press is doing their jobs.
79 Susie1945
where on the blog is that conversation?
I don’t know if any remember my post that day… but the Saturday HRC gave her Suspension speech… in my city (in Texas) cars were driving around all night long in many areas booming civil rights period music.
This is an answer I got back from one of the e-mails I sent out today about backing Hillary and becoming an Independent voter.
So, if you’ve already made the decision, and there is nothing we can do about it, why are you writing me? Garry S. Shay
Member, Democratic National Committee (CA) and
Lead Chair Rules Committee, California Democratic Party
Titles for identification purposes only
#80 - yeah - i’m very careful when putting flyers ‘cuz I hear about what these guys are doing - guess I’m like *61’s typical white person grandmother - gangs scare me…………
Don’t forget to comment on the NYT piece. Post a link to the blog so angry readers will visit and join http://blog.pumapac.org
NYT article here: comments NEEDED!
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/30/google-and-the-anti-obama-bloggers/
goanderson - it’s on riverdaughter’s blog - the confluence - comments under the birthday party article - look toward the bottom
84 pooh496
I write respond to dnc emails all the time. I never get a response.
hmmm.
87 Susie
Thanks
#67
The Southern Poverty Law Center is an anti-working class, pro-obama anti-puma organization
They are the enemies of brave cats
okay - leaving now - see ya tomorrow……………………
#81 vadaryl… sorry, but I believe its true and I have reasons to do so.
The behavior that Larry describes is not uncommon with lots of straight men in power positions (balck and white)…
Oprah even did a show on it late last year or early this year… Straight black men - and gay sex - they even have a chic name for it and it is widely known about.
(It also happens with straight white men more than most know)
I tired posting the NYtimes link on greta but it did not post.
Hated to post that… but I think Larry is telling the truth from what I have heard.
90 sarapuma
when did that happen? Oh H-ll, I guess I need to write to them as well. Geesch.
goandersen
remember that person freakwhatever from last night sent antifish the rude e-mail and I wrote back and asked if she was MO?
She e-mailed me a shouting e-mail then sent another one asking why I join PUMa, so i sent her back a sensible answer and she hasn’t e-mailed since, i hope she is thinking over what I said
Goodnight for real! I really was leaving a while back, but couldn’t push myself out the door.
#96 TrishfromCanada… that probably is the best way to handle them! Maybe if they don’t “get it” they will at least hear our resolve.
Goodnight! Logging out
#94wontbackdown
i think he is too. at first i didn’t give the story much credit but the more i’ve learned the more i believe it is true.
wontbackdown “on the downlow”
#90 sarapuma
why do you say that
Trish #96 “I hope she is thinking over what I said”
Ding, ding!! You just won the Puma PAC Comedy Golden Lion Award for the evening! Very proud of you, very proud.
good night Susie and Wontbackdown, tomorrow is another day!
I find it hard to believe him, but he’s still in the news, so there has to be something going on.
96 TrishfromCanada
Hey there. You did it!
What a dingle berry. I haven’t written mine yet, I forgot.
=/ UGH! I have been trying to print out some PUMA business cards but my printers are not cooperating with me! (They’re out of ink. =’( ) This is another conspiracy against PUMA to prevent us from printing our cards out! =P I kid I kid. It’s just my not paying attention to the ink levels. Just thought I’d add in a little humor!
#103 murphy
That made me smile, thank you
night wontbackdown
ok back my neighbour came over
WB sandipuma
hi sandipuma
Welcome back Sandipuma!
Murphyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, I’ve been patient more than I normally am, I’m bursting inside to know what you thought of the last e-mail I sent you.
Yes goanderson thats what the lady said
so we all need to check that out. Also my freind said thats what she was told so she and her husband signed up No Afiliation
sandipuma
i thought someone way back in the beginning checked this out and found out that in the general election you could vote for anyone you wanted to? does that ring a bell to anyone else?
Also Rev. Manning who says he has stuff but is waiting for the proper time to expose it. When is the proper time, if you got something then let it rip or don’t say anything at all. This is an election for the President not a game. We don’t need radio guys or TV guys holding back for ratings.
106 InuHanyou1701 on 06.30.08 at 11:39 pm
I think the business card, and other short information slips are useful tools.
Today as I walked the parking lot to the super market, I saw a car with an Obama sticker. I wished at that moment I had a card or an information PUMA slip to leave at the car window. Next time I will be prepare to do so. I carry the cards with me at all times. Let’s get the word out!
#118 william DenverCO
I’m going to be sure to carry them with me at all times! … When I get ink. =P
Rev Manning has said repeatedly that he is not a clinton supporter so I don’t expect him to release his info now. personally, i like the guy. I like any man who refers to his wife as wonderful everytime he says her name.
Trish — I love it!
trish made a GREAT cartoon/graphic about. . . well, I’ll let it be a surprise!
This was a lady standing outside a store signing up people
I posted at NYT ( actually I post there quite often ) but
I bet they won’r accept the post. Sorry, but I couldn’t resist.
“Hey . . . Google is adopting your policies, NYT.
You “sold” a war; Google is “selling” a President.”
I don’t know sheila maybe Murphy knows
#121 murphy
thank you, I’m worse than a kid
mpdamon
great!
Its all Greek to me
and i can’t speak Greek
well sandipuma maybe someone remembers or like you said we should find out. i know in missouri it doesn’t matter, you can vote any way you want to. in fact you don’t declare a party.
…so do you think Obama is worried that Larry Sinclair is going to BLOW the election?
ugh
Don’t forget to comment on the NYT piece. Post a link to the blog so angry readers will visit and join http://blog.pumapac.org—I posted Murphy, we’ll see if they post it or not! Well I made my weekly $contribution to pumapac so now I am heading to bed! Good night PUMA’s!
…sorry I couldn’t resist…
OMG…I just read the new “Growl” and was crying I was laughing so hard…Now this will be FUN…It is hysterical, and I am lovin it!! I haven’t posted in a few days, been quiet but I just wanted to let you know I am still here! After last week, I feel I’m finally getting better organized. I’m hoping to finish many projects this week. Also need to complete a few of the Growls and I’ve signed all the petitions. (Just went over to aol weekly straw poll, thanks to whomever it was that posted the reminder…I’ve been keeping up with it….never thought I’d ever be happy seeing all those RED states!! Ha!) Anyway, I hope I’ll be back at end of the week (if not before) to “brag” about all my accomplishments! I’m doing the $20.08 on July 4th….wouldn’t it be too cool to retire the debt all in one day!? Now that would be impressive! Good night all you nocturnal Pumas..
goodnight jarinfl
Are any of you aware that Huffington Post is listing the names and addresses of people who have contributed to either a Democrat or Republican on the website.
fundrace.huffingtonpost.com
If you have contributed and can’t find your name this way do a Google search of your name and see if this pops up.
My contributions to Hillary are listed but not the ones I sent to Nader
Goodnight always4Hill — thank you for all you do!
and jarinfl — good to see you!
107 TrishfromCanada Here’s mine: I resent her drivel with mine in (italics.) with pink color font.
Hello Little one, (Sherron Harris)
I VISIT THE PUMA BLOG STRICTLY FOR LAUGHS,(I am glad, there are some very humous people at Puma) NOT AT ALL BECAUSE I AM AFRAID MY CANDIDATE BARACK OBAMA WILL LOSE.(Really?) I MUST SAY YOU PUMAS ARE VERY DELUSIONAL. THE PRIMARIES ARE OVER!!! (And the fight for Democratic principles is not)THERE IS ABSOULETLY NO CHANCE IN HELL OF HILLIARY BEING THE DEMOCRAT NOMINEE. IT SADDENS ME THAT SOME OF YOU BELIEVE SOME MIRACLE WILL HAPPEN AT THE CONVENTION.(You don’t sound sad to me, you sound like an angry, frustrated person) I ALSO FEEL SORRY FOR YOU PUMA MEMBERS WHO ACTUALLY DONATE TO THIS CAUSE.(We love supporting our large and growing movement) HAVE YOU HEARD THE NEWS THAT ONLY 23% OF HILLIARY SUPPORTERS NOW SAY THEY WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN.? IF THIS PUMA MOVEMENT IS SO STRONG ALONG WITH THE JUST SAY NO DEAL, THEN WHY HASN’T MCCAIN JUMPED IN THE POLLS.(Could you be reading the polls slanted toward your master and not the ‘real’ polls?) DO YOU WANT TO SEE A REAL MOVEMENT. GO VISIT BARACK WEBSITE. (I don’t hang with angry, foul-mouthed, sexist people, no thanks)UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE OVER 3000 GRASSROOTS EVENTS TODAY.(wow.I am shaking in my boots now) THEY ARE AVERAGE AMERICANS DOING THEIR PART FOR OBAMA. ALSO THERE IS ALOT OF HATE ON THE PUMA WEBSITE. MOST OF YOU ARE RACISTS, KLU KLUX KLAN, JIM CROWE ANYWAY.(This is the type of movement you want me to join? One that calls people names without knowing who they really are? If you have really been reading the posts at Puma, you would know this.) MOST OF YOU PUMAS ARE REPUBLICANS ANYWAY. THE WEBSITE IF FUNDED BY THE GOP.(There are a few republicans on the site, and Independents, and Democrats, and No Affiliation. MURPHY IS SOMEHOW CONNECTED TO MCCAIN ANYWAYS.(Just not true) YOU HARRASS PELOSI, DONNA, AND OTHERS.(We write to these people because they party or elected officials. We have every right to voice our views. This is still a free country and we do have First Amendment Rights.)I HOPE PUMA RAISE ENOUGH MONEY TO SLANDER OBAMA. A BIG FAT LAWSUIT AGAINST MURPHY FOUNDER OF PUMA PAC.(We don’t need to slander Mr. No Name, he does a find job of that himself) WHEN IT COMES TO FLORDIA AND MICHIGAN, FLORDIA AND MICHIGAN KNEW THEY WOULD BE PENALIZED FOR MOVING UP THEIR PRIMARIES, SO WHY DIDN’T THE CITIZENS OF THESE STATES FIGHT THEN TO SAY NO WE WANT OUR VOTES COUNTED!!!(Did you know that the REPULICANS pushed the change through? The Democrats tried to stop it. Did you even listen to the DNC meeting on May 31st?) DO NOT MOVE UP OUR PRIMARIES DATE. STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES!!! SO NOW YOU GO AND BLAME THE DNC FOR FLORDIA AND MICHIGAN. MURPHY IS LEADING THIS CULT VERY WELL. I SEE PEOPLE ASKING HER PERMISSION TO DO THINGS LIKE THEY CAN’T THINK FOR THEMSELVES. THE AVERAGE PERSON DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PUMA. THIS ORGANIZATION IS SMALL AND PETTY, AND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE I JUST LAUGH AT YOUR SILLINESS AND HATRED FOR OBAMA.(Oh, you have no idea do you, just how huge this grassroots movement is? Oh, dear) DO YOU KNOW THAT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE VOTING IN THIS ELECTION. A FEW HUNDRED VOTES FROM PUMAS FOR MCCAIN WILL NOT HELP HIM WIN. YES THERE MAY BE PUMAS IN EVERY STATE BUT YOUR NUMBERS ARE SMALL. NEW REGISTERED VOTERS WILL CANCEL OUT YOUR VOTES ALONE. SO GO AHEAD AND WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THIS PUMA CRAP, I NEED A GOOD LAUGH FROM TIME TO TIME. HA HA HA IS WHAT I THINK OF PUMA PAC. I WILL PRAY FOR YOU ALL TONIGHT, GOD HELP THOSE PUMA MEMBERS. (Don’t forget the Hail Mary’s)THEY ARE FILLED WITH HATE AND DISPISE FOR A MAN THEY HARDLY KNOW. TAKE THAT HATRED AWAY FROM THEM AND FILL THEIR HEARTS WITH LOVE.(And you are spewing hatred toward millions of people that you do not even know.
Is your name Donna Brazille, by chance?
And must you scream?
i need to get some sleep now. i feel kind of out of it since i’ve been gone for a few days but hopefully tomorrow i can catch back up. goodnight everyone!
#138 This person needs to have a drink to kill the giant bug up her ass…but I’ll sleep better knowing she’s praying for me…like I didn’t have enough problems…
I have just finished a really emotional rant here at home discussing all of this low underhanded dealing by the Obama supporters. It was not directly about the blogg situation, but about the smearing of John McCain’s military contribution by Wesley Clark.
I generally disagree with Senator McCain on a number of policies. That is a given, as I am a democrat and he is not. That does not give the Obama supporters and surrogates the right to denigrade him and his status as an American Hero. The Obama campaign is following the same pattern with this that it used to paint the Clintons as racists. First you have a whole string of people chip away at the opponent’s main claim to fame, then you have one or two big attacks by other more powerful surrogates, then you (Obama) apologise for the ‘misunderstaning’ and give a rousing speech to reasure the electorate that you are a magnificent person and all of your motives are wonderful.
I don’t buy it, and I don’t think the rest of the non coolaid voters will buy it either.
Heneri
140 dmrr
did you read my responses throughout in ( )?
OMG! DNC complaining that FOX voter fraud report only features African Americans. You can’t make this stuff up.
http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/05/fox_news_story.php
#142 Oh yeah…but I suspect she doesn’t have the capacity to get it….by the way you forgot the “Our Fathers”…
This was her question to me:
“Trish, all the way from Canada, why did you join Puma Pac? What is your cause? What is YOU fighting for? Please, I am serious. I would like to know.”
This was my response:
I am fighting for everyone’s right to have their vote count, It really isn’t about which country I am from, its about personal freedom and not being subjected to attacks to depress this freedom. It’s about electing a person fair and square, without political manipulation, bully tactics and voter fraud. The voting system should be honoured otherwise it means nothing and that creates a vulnerability which allows further decay of a country. You need not look far to other countries to see the damage created when people have no right to choose their government. When the rights of individuals are taken away by one person, then sadly America’s leaders have failed every citizen of their country. Not just those who are subjected to this fraudulent system but those who thrive in it.
#143 antifish
I responded to the freakyone above . I reposted her email with my responses in ( ) throughout in pink font color italic.
# 138 Food for Thought
I live in MA and during the primaries I proudly wore my Hillary T-shirt. I was approached by quite a few people who said they were voting for Clinton but didn’t dare tell their families. I found this interesting because Clinton won MA by a wide margin despite Obama being endorsed by Kennedy, Kerry, Patrick and the Boston Globe.
We learned with the exit polls that many people don’t want to say publically who they support. I’ll bet that there are closet PUMAS out there.
I still think it’s hysterical…Trish what is YOU fighting for?
Murphy, by any chance do you know how great are numbers really are? On Gretawire, some people were saying it was up to 2 million. This probably includes many other sites put together. Just looking for your thoughts.
144 dmrr
oh sorry, my bad.
#138 goandersen
Did you happen to ask how old this person was? Judging from the level of intelligence presented as well as the fact that all caps is used, I would guess they aren’t even voting age. 14 maybe? =)
#150 That’s OK…but it’s like buy one get one free…they go together…you can’t have one without the other…..
#149 matt2008A
Murphy said not long ago that our numbers are in the thousands at the moment and that we had 500,000 hits on the site.
Murphy,
Lots of comments at NYT. I posted as “Brandon”. That’s the name I always use there.
147 mpdamon
Closet PUMAs, I love it!!!
151 InuHanyou
I think they are young and not well educated about what is really going on. I just wanted to interject some sense into the drivel.
#147 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 12:15 am
Not to mention all the people who do not like to go online (like my parents). This could be especially true with the elderly (they tend not to trust BO)
goandersen
ALSO! You should add in a follow up email the question of “Can you name 5 things that Barack Obama has accomplished in his career (And I use that term lightly) in the senate? And can you name 5 things he will do if elected President?” That usually shuts them up really quickly as they don’t know.
One of our biggest challenges is going to be to contact the elderly. We’ll probably have to use radio, tv, or newspaper ads for that. Can anyone think of a better way?
158 Inu
This was an email that antifish got from this person. Trish and I just wanted to play with it a little.
That was my first response. If she responds back, believe me, I have a lot more to say.
159 mpdamon
AARP
#158
I know 5 things he will do . . . flip-flop on 5 more issues.
#160 goandersen
=P Excellent. *Mischievious face* I look forward to reading your future responses if he/she responds.
#162 mpdamon
*Laughs* That was good! Nicely put!
MPDamon #147 absolutely agreed.
After the creep in the 7-series BMW drove off from the grocery store parking lot, another mother who had watched what happened (I didnt even see her there) quietly came over and helped me with the groceries. She didnt say a WORD, but we both knew exactly what she was thinking.
#159 see if we can leave flyers explaining flip flops etc at senior centers. There are a lot of the residential apartment type where they have community rooms
goandersen,
I loved the way you responded to her. She actually wrote me back and was civil. Now she is asking questions about what we hope to accomplish. I didn’t respond tonight because I’m tired and want to give her a thoughtful response. Hey, you never know. Maybe she will join us.
Goodnight folks….goandersen behave yourself!
163 InHanyou
In the email my responses were pink italic and in ( ). Much easier to read than what came up on this post.
I will let you know if she mails back.
Ok I’m upset. I tried to be a good Puma and blog at the
Google and the Anti-Obama Bloggers
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/30/google-and-the-anti-obama-bloggers/#comment-248462
But they stuck me in moderation and won’t let me out.
Obama is such a con artist. In order to address his own patriotism, he takes a gentle swipe at his home team, MoveOn.org,
Obama is now pretending he is upset with MoveOn.org’s controversial newspaper ad last fall that attacked the top U.S. general in Iraq, David Petraeus
He chose his meeting with H.R. Clinton in Unity.
Then Obama addressed his patriotism in Independence.
Don’t you find his campaign organizers just a little too
much Martha Stewart, in the sense of mixing and matching themes to City?
I guess when he gives his speech about his Economic policy he will choose Las Vegas.
And when he gives his speech about his Foreign policy he will choose China Town.
Then when he gives his speech about his Healthcare he will chose Yellow Medicine County etc..
It is amusing to watch his “time for silly politics” because he is getting an A+ in that game.
ALL YOU KOOL-AID DRINKERS, COME AND JOIN PUMA PAC AND GET THE OBAMA ANTIDOTE!
#159 mpdamon on 07.01.08 at 12:21 am
I believe the elderly are probably the most suspicious group about BO. I know in GA, many elderly dems won’t vote for him b/c they cannot trust him. Hillary ran up huge margins with the elderly, so thats also a plus.
There are also large elderly populations in key states such as FL, PA, NV, NM & NJ. That would probably be the best places to focus.
168 dmrr
good night. I will try really hard.
#167 antifish
That would be an INCREDIBLE turn of events. Keep up the awesome work antifish!
Antifish you are too kind! I admire you.
Night all. Keep blogging and commenting our message out there. I read the comments at the NYT and GretaWire. You are the BEST ambassadors any political movement has ever seen.
Be wonderful to each other. Tomorrow is another day!
Murphy, I’m glad someone was there to help you, if I was there, I would’ve helped you too. I’m really sorry it happened in front of your child, I hope your daughter is okay.
167 antifish
That is my hope as well.
you sound tired. Going to sleep soon?
TerryDo #170 — too funny! economic policy in las vegas! haha. no offense to our LV Lovelies of course!
Goodnight Murphy
Good night Murphy! Sleep well!
I’m trying to write a good ap to be President and hoping Dean picks me lol I will turn my title over to President Murphy and i will be Lady Puma
Good nigh, Murphy! I admire you more!
So first Obama and his supporters hijack the DNC and block the person who was voted democratically from winning…Then they try to squash any Democrat who dare not join them by blocking their ability of free speech…Anyone else seeing a dark pattern here?
Also, it’s so sad hearing about the person who harassed you in a parking lot for having a bumper sticker (Honestly, what are these people thinking?) I hope you gave him an earful.
But all this just makes our resolve stronger and our growls louder!
P.S. Hillary has a MySpace, Facebook, YouTube etc. I think e-mailing people who have shown her support on these websites would be a good way to find new PUMA members.
http://www.myspace.com/hillaryclinton (192,224 friends)
thanks Matt
There are definitely many more nice people than creeps in this world.
But, dang! the creeps make much more noise.
Has Wesley Clark become an Obamabot?
I read what he says and say “tell me it isn’t true!”
Hillary or McCain– no compromise
Ugh. I struggled to stay calm while posting at NYT…
the ignorance of the Obama fans is beyond belief. They keep harping on ‘just get over it’, and how he won fair and square, blah blah blah… never address the issues with original personal though.
I’m going to bed. Night all.
http://www.myspace.com/hillaryclinton2008 (Not an official MySpace, but it is a PUMA-like place) (65,519 friends)
http://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton (158,461 supporters)
http://www.youtube.com/user/hillaryclintondotcom (14,104 subscribers)
Now you can see why i’m brain dead lol i live in Vegas
#170
They moderate comments before posting. Some of my best zingers never make it.
#183 piepiepie,
You can’t say “Anyone else seeing a dark pattern here?”
It’s racist. LOL!
#186 Nite Dances!
#189
If you’re a PUMA, you can’t be brain dead . . . it’s probably just brain fatigue, dealing with all those Obamabots.
# 171 TerryDo
I wouldn’t worry too much about Obama sticking people under the bus he does that so much he soon won’t have anyone left to vote for him.
Night Murphy
Good night Murphy sleep well prrrr
Blogging Obama and asking him to call of his dogs off is like calling Bush and asking him to leave the White House immediately. It is just not going to happen.
What Puma bloggers should do is go on every possible blogg and tell everyone how Obama and his computer science thugs and trying to SHUT DOWN Free Speech on the Puma Pac web site.
And leave each blog site, by asking is this the kind of sensorship you want in the next (want to be) president
Obama?
What Puma needs is a true Clinton supporter who know his way around websites and put a blocker from the intrusions that Puma’s website is experiencing.
#148 matt
“On Gretawire, some people were saying it was up to 2 million. ”
Will Bowers put the conservative, he stressed conservative estimate at 2 million members online. That doesn’t include all those out there who are puma, nor the ones who share our perceptions and positions and have not connected with puma (yet).
sometimes my brain works so good and then it goes to sleep
#172 matt,
Are you in GA? I’m in Acworth.
piepiepie75
invite them over!
goandersen,
Yes, I’m tired. Not gonna last much longer.
#196
Obama’s “strategy” is to encourage his cult fans to create havoc, spread lies, and then wrap his robes around him and assume a saintly air. I’m waiting for the reports of his walking across the Potomac.
#185 sarapuma on 07.01.08 at 12:30 am
I really liked Clark (emphasis on liked), to bad he stooped this low. I really hate it when people pick on their opponents military records. Whether you agree with McCain or not, he served his country honorably, and deserves the upmost respect and credit for that. I know McCain would never attack anyones years of service for this nation. Its a little bit personal for me as my brother is in the military. Clark should apologize personally and fade into the background.
Good Night All
#191 antifish
Oops, I forgot :$. I’d better issue an apology statement before Chris Matthews chews my head off…
Hello everyone
I have been off the internet for a couple of day, my husband has been working on the wireless. Man have iI missed a lot.
NObama must be starting to hurt for money.I got request from the following in the last 2 days emailed responses to all as reply’s and wrote letters to those I had addresses to.
X2
Tom McMahon demodcraticparty@democrats.org;
Howard Dean
J.B. Poersch info@dscc.org;
Sen. Joe Biden
Donna Brazile
Elizabeth Edwards also sent her a personal letter
Al Gore
John Edwards
Sen. Harry Reid also sent personal letter
#18 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 10:56 pm
I would be curious to see a show of “paws” here that would support that ticket.
——————————————–
I’d work doubly hard against a ticket that would make Hillary Obama’s VP! She has stated that she wants to stay in the Senate and would only accept out of party duty. She should not give up her own career and her chance to run in 2012 just to iron his shirt!
Petiton at
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/hillarynovp/
#199 antifish on 07.01.08 at 12:36 am
I live near Brookhaven (heavy BO territory) I just graduated from Chamblee HS.
Its great that there are some GA people on this blog.
I can see that by August 26th we will be way to strong for the Democratic Party to stop us. I’m just afraid of what will happen in Denver and i don’t want anyone hurt. I will be there but i will make sure that everyone around me keeps the peace
#194 Stardust,
Obama had to put oversized tires on the bus so he can fit more people under it. I read it on barackobama.com/smear them all!
Me again. Almost forgot. Remember the little flip flops that we ordered from Oriental Trading. Mine came. yesterday. Finally. Who to and Where is the best place to send them?
dances,
There may be only 2 million people registered at PUMA websites so far. But out in the world beyond the internet, there are 7 million Hillary supporters who will not vote for Obama — according to a recent CNN poll.
See turndownobama.com for cites.
#208 matt,
Yes, we aren’t that far apart. I’m so glad we have young Pumas like you.
Matt, wait! you dont mean Chamblee High School??
I’m to old to be hosed down by police or hit by Sharpton or one of Obamas thugs
turndownobama… right. If I didn’t actually type that, I was thinking it. whoa… now I sound like Obama.
“present”
Hi All PUMAs!
It takes so much time catching up, there’s hardly a chance to do any posts.
However, I believe the fllowing deserve a strong look. On the previous thread downstairs #702 where it was mentioned than Pelosi intends to restore the fairness doctrine. I am going to provide two threads. The first specifically on this article. The other an article from 2007 which provides some good insight.
The lead fo the first article states as follows:
‘Free Speech: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi intends to restore the “Fairness Doctrine” regulating political speech — proof that in the Internet Age, Democrats have lost the communications war.’
It seems that Pelosi has been chasing this since last year, and currently her interest seems to have been recharged.
Here’s the link for the article:
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=299459790845328
The second link from 2007:
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Regulation/wm1472.cfm
#214 murphy on 07.01.08 at 12:41 am
Yes High School, I’m 18 years old and a white male and am a Hillary supporter all the way. No BO for me.
I volunteered for Hillary’s campaign in GA, and have never waived my support for her.
I’m voting for the first time in November and it will be against BO.
#210 antifish
Cute
Goodnight goandersen!
I’ve been working on PUMA hats.
Fleece with ears!
I’ll let you know
Moreon.org has a petition up for people to sign protesting Fox’s “smearing” Obama. I sent them the following message:
“Fox is doing what few other media groups have the courage to . . . reporting Obama’s record accurately. You should be ashamed of yourselves for rallying around an inexperienced flip-flopping candidate rather than taking the position of reforming the Democratic Party so that it responds to the will of it’s constituents rather than assuming we will support and contribute to their chosen one. Just consider me another PUMA DEmocrat”
Wow, never thought I would be defending FOX.
matt2008A “Clark should apologize personally and fade into the background.”
I think Obama threw Wesley under the bus…
Post # 797 on other blog - Lorelai - your suggestion of contacting 18 superdelegates works (actually I tried 76) and am communicating daily with at this point 9 of them - 8 are HRC supporters and will do whatever they can behind the scenes to get her the nomination in Denver - the other one switched over to BO - but is willing to have a dialogue on it - it works - everyone should try it - if we get enough backing - we COULD have an upset here.
Drac
A lot of people and including the quite elderly do not have a computer so thats why we need more Media expossure like Murphy on Letterman and The View and deffinately the Ellen D show
*raises hand*
18 year old white male here too. The media needs to realize that PUMAs aren’t just old white women who are bitter so they cling to their guns and religion.
#206 Tucsonpuma,
Welcome back! Wow, the party is really showing you some love. And, I thought I got a lot of solicitations!
Matt2008A - VERY PROUD TO HAVE YOU AS A PART OF OUR FAMILY -
There are a lot of young people out there that are not only Clinton supporters, but have strong view about Obama and his tactics
226 piepiepie75
I love my religion and especially my guns! LOL!
#224 Goalucard4Hill
Wow…I contacted most of the superdelegates in my state of California, but I mostly get e-mails back immediately saying my messages won’t be read because I don’t live in their district. *grr…*
Ed Rendell ends his HOUND CREDO by saying “While the PUMA may be more swift and athletic, the HOUND is smarter and more perceptive.”
Wouldn’t you know somebody didn’t do a lot of research on this one?
Dr. S Cohen, author of THE INTELLIGENCE OF DOGS, worked with over 200 show judges to rate the intelligence of 79 dog breeds.
Now I just can’t see Ed Rendell as the exotic Pharaoh Hound type (no. 37) or the fancy Irish Wolfhound (no. 41). Although almost halfway down to “dumb dog,” these are the two smartest hounds.
I definitely see Ed as a Bassett Hound (no. 71) or a Bloodhound (no. 76) kinda guy.
Even the winner of the dumbest dog distinction is a hound - the prissy Afghan Hound (no. 79).
Still, Ed is an adorable guy. Lovable like the dumbest of dogs - even when they drink out of the toilet or lick themselves inappropriately in public.
Hmmm.
#209 Sandi,
Yes, me too. We cannot let anyone get hurt in Denver.
WOW - PIEPIEPIE - this is really encouraging - another 18 year old for our Hillary - maybe we old people should ask you and Matt based on your age group how we can get others to listen to us -
News papers are important to. A lot of people who do not have time for TV like to read the News Paper. So we need to get the truth out there for them
#226 piepiepie75 on 07.01.08 at 12:46 am
I know, I’m sick of the media characterizing this group as only women and that young people love BO. I’m young and I would never vote for BO, he has done nothing, Why should he be president? (Hope and change is not an acceptable answer)
Matt and Piepiepie, HOLY SMOKES!
you bring a tear to my eye. literally!
wow. It may sound condescending to say this, but I am proud of you.
I’ll sleep well now, night all.
#211 Tucson,
Check at the action center. It was a growl last week I think…
nite Murph
We’ll take piepiepie and matt with us. They will fight for us. SO WONDERFUL to have you younger ones in here. I am so proud of you two
Ah - Piepiepie - there is a secret way to do that - first you Google the State - then you get a listing of zip codes and you choose one - they instantly react to that - and once you have a legitimate conversation with them - its all good - have you tried http://www.lobbydelegates.com - its all there for you and you really don’t have to research anything - however, more and more of the sd’s are deleting their email addys now. So you have to be quick.
A final thought before I go to bed myself…
I noticed that Obama tilts his head when he speaks so I looked it up on wikihow - Overly tilted heads are a potential sign of sympathy. Alternatively the person is trying to convince you of their honesty. I’m tilting my head towards the latter!!!
Checking back in for up to the second news. Murphy, the post where you were in a parking lot….doing a short version here…then someone said something about your daughter…anyway…I went back and forth looking for the story…nothing. What happened if I may ask?
night sweet Murphy
mpdamon “Wow, never thought I would be defending FOX.”
I know! The entire primary season, and post May 31, has been like the downside of hallucinogenic.
Matt and piepie,
You are not alone. there are many young PUMAs / Hillary supporters/ No BO out there.
I heard an interview with a group of them recently. They are stealth because they are 1) outnumbered, and 2) the Obama fans are threatening and abusive.
But, they still have their vote, and they know how they’re going to use it.
#240 Goalucard4Hill
Ah, thank you so much! I’ll begin e-mailing my state’s superdelegates like crazy in the coming days.
I’m happy to be a young person for Hillary! I was never interested in politics before 2008. In fact, I had been raised by Republicans for most of my life, so I was really more of a right-winger. But I kept seeing Hillary on the news in the summer of 2007, and I thought “Now, THAT’s the person I want to be my president!” All of her ideas made sense to me, and I was so proud to be a Democrat. But now, that respect I had for the Democratic party is gone…Coming to this blog everyday keeps my spirits up. We’ve got to fix the party!
Let’s not forget our young, Inu. He is 20 years old. Are you still here?
Well, time for me to say goodnight
I’m glad to be a young person for Hillary. Unfortunately, many of my peers, have been hypnotized by BO. Although, I have convinced my girlfriend not to vote for BO, so thats positive. I’ll check back one more time in about five minutes, but other than that goodnight pumas.
Where there is piepiepie and matt there are 3 million of each of you. That makes 6 million and no reason not to be 9 million of you. You bothe need to be proud of your generation and wanting to learn what all we have been through and what we have seen and i also know that we can learn a lot from you so anything you can teach me i am ready
I have a friend who just graduated from High School AND just turned 18 who is a BIG PUMA supporter. He just asked me today if I would put PUMA’s logo on his MySpace. Unfortunately, he doesn’t have internet at his house so he can’t join us. (I think we have alot of young supporters here too. As many of you know I’m also only 20)
#241 nutmegbelle,
I agree. No sympathy there.
227 antifish
In the letter I wrote to Elizabeth Edwards, I told her that if it were her husband in Obama’s place he would never have treated Senator Clinton the way Obama did, that he always encourged women in business and politics. I told her that Obama had set back women years and that what we wanted was for out voices to be heard and our votes to count. I told her to tell Senator Edwards that there were thousands of us, men women of all ages, professions, from all 50 states.and still growing and that he should come talk to us because we were not going away. We will see if i get a reply or not
#244 Dances,
I thought you went to bed. The downside of hallucinogenic…. LOL!
#246 piepiepie75 on 07.01.08 at 12:57 am
I have a similar story, I was raised by independents, who kept politics to themselves. I first got interested in the 2004 election (though I did not really like Kerry). I had followed Hillary in the senate, and once I saw her announce that she was running, I pledged my support to her. Everytime I saw her on TV, especially the past few months, I have become prouder and prouder to be a Hillary supporter. She is who I want as my president.
Goodnight matt!