H.O.U.N.D. — Help Obama Undermine our Nation’s Democracy!

Are you tired of coalition democracy? Do you believe that “win at any cost” should be the motto of our top candidates? Do you love it when allies attack their own? Don’t you think it’s hilarious when blanket accusations of racism against regular voters work to undermine one candidate? Were you thrilled to watch the national party disenfranchise millions of voters because they favored one candidate? Wasn’t it just GREAT when they stole 4 delegates from one senator, gave them to their pet, and then justified their decision with media exit polls? Isn’t awesome that we are now allowed to ridicule women candidates and women voters on national TV and the internet by calling them castraters, bitches, ugly, fat, old, stupid, and hormonal!?!

Do you love it when politicians use empty promises, shallow slogans, network marketing, corporate bundling, and astroturfing to create a mirage of political viability? Do you spend your nights trolling other people’s websites posting hateful insults, threats, and condescending postures masquerading as deep political insight?

Then YOU, my friend, are a HOUND DOG! Welcome to our Movement. We offer HOPE to CHANGE the Democratic Party and our nation! We will replace secret ballots with public caucuses! We will use our mighty internet skills to shut down, deface, and discredit all who dissent or oppose our Great Cause! We will offer you candidates who make you faint; who make you forget your rational thinking skills; who make you forget that decent politicians and great leaders inspire citizens with their competence, experience, and vision for ALL Americans. In place of these old, useless values, we will give you candidates who inspire with Platitude, Attitude, and Purges!

Join us in this mission. Together we CAN change the system so that it works only for the few. Together we CAN excise the old, the poor, the sick, the vulnerable, and the “different” from our Pure Movement. We will be a coalition of healthy, young, affluent, urban, and damn good-looking people who think EXACTLY LIKE YOU!

Join H.O.U.N.D. today so we can start the work of undermining democracy in America from coast to coast this summer! Are you shocked at our Audacity? Are you amazed at the scope of our Great undertaking? Do you have doubts that we can accomplish all we have set out to do? Well, worry no more my friend. YOU are the change. YOU will be part of our Great H.O.U.N.D. Movement, and to the doubters who don’t believe we can actually inflict as much damage on the nation as we intend, we have one simple answer: YES, WE CAN!

Oh, and give me five dollars.

948 comments ↓

#1 hillaryistheone on 06.30.08 at 8:47 am

NO THEY CAN’T!!!

#2 doria on 06.30.08 at 8:53 am

Wow! Murphy, you’ve outdone yourself!!

Please submit this as an op ed..see if there is a paper that isn’t too afraid to publish it.

#3 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 8:55 am

Please change that picture of BHO on top. It’s reminds of of someone that thinks they are it and also to much of Bush. I keep seeing him acting like he is flicking something off his shoulders.

#4 deadgirlsrise on 06.30.08 at 8:58 am

Murphy, you are one hella hellraza!

#5 FLgayGuy4Hill on 06.30.08 at 9:00 am

18 Million kudos Murphy! Bravo!

#6 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:00 am

We may have more work to do. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/30/clinton.obama/index.html

#7 donna12 on 06.30.08 at 9:00 am

Great job Murphy! That HOUND is so pathetic, they should borrow the Emperor’s Great Seal of Obamaland and replace the eagle with a hound dog.

#8 henry on 06.30.08 at 9:05 am

no time to read new post, but wanted to extend my gratitude to Murphy and thank everyone for the humor exhibited over the last few days.
some have found it inappropriate but I as a day hard HRC supporter find it very refreshing during these dark days.
(LMAO reading the HOUND registrations)

#9 henry on 06.30.08 at 9:05 am

die hard

#10 mcr on 06.30.08 at 9:06 am

Re: Obama Camp Thinks Democrats Can Rise in South

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/30/us/politics/30south.html?_r=1&th=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&emc=th&adxnnlx=1214830877-Bq+5n6uc1k+dGU5ocaH96Q

“But some contend that the building blocks of a Democratic electoral majority lie elsewhere, notably the Southwest. That argument was laid out in 2006 in “Whistling Past Dixie: How Democrats Can Win Without the South,” by Thomas F. Schaller, a political scientist at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County.”

#11 mcr on 06.30.08 at 9:09 am

Re: Meet the New ‘Press,’ Without Wriggling Guests

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/30/arts/television/30watc.html?th&emc=th

“Mr. Brokaw, the former “Nightly News” anchor who will host the program until NBC finds a more permanent replacement for Mr. Russert, made a point of breaking with the past….”

#12 henry on 06.30.08 at 9:11 am

FYI
I am a gay man who busted his ass walking door to door for Hillary and now have taken to wearing a McCain button when I go out. Results in many a confrontation but I also get lots of whispers from disparate individuals that they will vote McCain, but won’t tell thier friends. God bless Tina Fey

#13 mcr on 06.30.08 at 9:13 am

Re: In Flag City USA, False Obama Rumors Are Flying

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/29/AR2008062901871.html?hpid=topnews

“On the television in his living room, Peterman has watched enough news and campaign advertisements to hear the truth: Sen. Barack Obama, born in Hawaii, is a Christian family man with a track record of public service. But on the Internet, in his grocery store, at his neighbor’s house, at his son’s auto shop, Peterman has also absorbed another version of the Democratic candidate’s background, one that is entirely false: Barack Obama, born in Africa, is a possibly gay Muslim racist who refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.”

#14 hillaryistheone on 06.30.08 at 9:13 am

You go henry!!! We need more like you.

#15 lotts1948 on 06.30.08 at 9:16 am

Good morning Pumas!!!! I just want to share something with ya’ll. The petition on Care2 to stop Puma has a site. It’s called: http://yestodemocracy.org/

Now, if ya’ll go there, you’ll find the blog on top accusing PUMA voters of vandalizing the cars in Orlando, FL.. but the second blog is “ANGRY PUMAS email me”.. yeah, right.

Well, it has a copy of an email from Lavenia…and guess what, that’s me. However, here’s the story. There was a link posted on one of our threads about a petition to STOP PUMA.. I wanted to see what it was all about and who was behind it, so I followed the link over to Care2.petitions (seems they have plenty of petitions over there and anybody can come up with one). Now, this is where I think it gets interesting. Some of the other Pumas on that late-night thread signed the petition (which BTW is up to all of 53 sigs), with names like unto Donna Brazile and Nancy Peloser.. etc. and made comments that way. I DID NOT SIGN the petition, however, I made use of the comments section to send them my comment. I asked them something along the lines of “why is there a petition to STOP PUMA, are ya’ll against little things like the constitution, freedom of speech, etc., and I also told them I was not a Republican and if they’d like to do some research into it, I’ve actually been a Democrat for 40+ years, a few more little things, but I believe all in all I kept it at that level, not bashing, but questioning their motives…

then I get an email back to my email on yahoo.com from “christina baker” <chris.bee@hotmail.com”, who I suppose is the author of this petition and within the email it gives me the link I posted above to yestodemocracy.org..

when I went back to look at it last night I found that blog about ANGRY PUMAS email me.. and my name.. NOT a copy of my comments or a reference to the fact that I commented (NOT EMAILED) and that the comments were not going specifically to “christina baker” but were instead comments to the petition (heck, I didn’t know where or to whom the comments were going at that time.. at that time, I didn’t even know about yestodemocracy.org). Actually, I can prove that I responded via the comments section on the petition, because since I like to keep track of stuff, I saved a copy of the email Ms. Baker sent me back which includes the copy of my “comments”.

Sooo, it’s rather interesting, I think, because it really does prove, or so I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE, that people like Ms. Baker and other Obamabots distort the truth, just like Nobama himself, in order to keep on force-feeding the kool-aid to others.

Don’t know what I’m going to do with her email to me which includes the section of what I sent to their comments, but I’ve got it in my folder and if I can think of any way to use it to discredit them.. I will do so.

Anybody have any ideas in that regard. I was a bit burned at first on seeing my name on that blog.. and on seeing the blog accusing PUMA voters of vandalizing cars in JAX, but… why waste the anger on people with absolutely no integrity or honesty, right? okay.. I’m still a bit burned.

Just call me…

Lavenia
A VERY PROUD TEXAS PUMA!!!

#16 henry on 06.30.08 at 9:18 am

hillaryistheone
many pumas like me they just have yet to find thier voice

#17 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 9:18 am

Good Morning PUMA’s. It’s a great morning and and even greater day… ok that’s the end of my morning cheer, used it all up in one sentence.

Seriously though, I wish each of you a great day and hope opportunity presents itself to have a few conversations about what it means to be able to have your voice heard.

Goooooooooooo PUMA’s

:)

#18 lotts1948 on 06.30.08 at 9:20 am

okay, I just can’t help myself here. The picture of Nobama above reminds me of something my grandmother always used to say.. “I sure hope it doesn’t rain, cuz if it does, you’re going to drown!!!”

sort of “above everyone”. I guess that’s because he’s a “legend in his own mind”… LOL

#19 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:20 am

I ain’t notin’ but a HOUND dog….spoiler, oh yeah!

Love it Murphy!

Wonder how PA Gov. Rendell is enjoying his morning dog biscuits reading all his new member sign ups?

#20 mcr on 06.30.08 at 9:21 am

Re: Chris Cillizza’s “The Fix”

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/

In the video clip Chris gives the schedules of the candidates, etc.

#21 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:23 am

Good Morning Pumas,

Murphy, I loved comments above!

#22 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:26 am

Don’t forget to vote in the AOL Straw Poll if you haven’t already. McCain 62%, Obama 38%. :)

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/27/aol-straw-poll-june-27-july-4/

#23 mcr on 06.30.08 at 9:26 am

Re: The Obama Agenda

By PAUL KRUGMAN Published: June 30, 2008

“It’s feeling a lot like 1992 right now. It’s also feeling a lot like 1980. But which parallel is closer? Is Barack Obama going to be a Ronald Reagan of the left, a president who fundamentally changes the country’s direction? Or will he be just another Bill Clinton?”

“One thing is clear: for Democrats, winning this election should be the easy part. Everything is going their way: sky-high gas prices, a weak economy and a deeply unpopular president. The real question is whether they will take advantage of this once-in-a-generation chance to change the country’s direction. And that’s mainly up to Mr. Obama.”

#24 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 9:26 am

#21 antifish

HEY! your friend responded

#25 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:27 am

#18 That is the words I was trying to say about the picute” sort of “above everyone”.

#26 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 9:27 am

Oh yes, Murphy I love the intro for today and that picture sums up everything I think about him

#27 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:29 am

Put some kind of PUMA picture next to it. It does sum up what we do feel about it.

#28 PumaAllie on 06.30.08 at 9:30 am

you continue to rock Murphy!!!

go PUMA’s !!!

#29 john on 06.30.08 at 9:30 am

Please we need to show strength in numbers, signed the pledge to NOT vote for Obama in the General Election we have over 4200 signature we know there many many more not voting Obama we ask that you take a minute and sign this petition we will send the MSM and Howard Dean some hard core numbers
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/pledge-to-vote-against-obama-in-the-general-election

#30 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.30.08 at 9:31 am

Good Morning Pumas
I know this goes back a few daily growls but the one for the flip flops I was just able to do this wknd. I just wanted to share something that made me chuckle in doing it. I did not send flip flops ($ and wasted shoe wear on the Chosen One / Beanhead) so I sent ads for flip flops on sale and some Puma Checks. What was funny wa in looking for ads for them – the two I settled on one was an ad for 70% flip flops for the Entire Family (I changed it to the Entire DNC Family and Friends) and the second one was for 30% off Men’s Flip Flops and the brand name of them was “Gotcha” – I laugh again as I write this…..made my day!

#31 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:32 am

Okay, thinking this morning….advertising….does anyone have any knowledge on running ads on the side of buses in large cities? It would be a great way to put the PUMA name out and maybe a reasonable cost?

I do know this also, when I went to the Hillary rally in Cleveland there were two trucks with HUGE OB signs in the back driving around and around our crowd.

This could be a way for the PUMA group to do cheap advertising, put signs their truck beds and drive around OBAMA rallies and towns.

Also, I think the OB group had a billboard put on a flatbed. (Cheap but effective way for us.)

Of course I took pictures of the OB truck, so if any PUMA youtube maker would like copies please let me know.

#32 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:35 am

#24 Trish,

What did she have to say?

#33 prplvette85 on 06.30.08 at 9:36 am

I cannot even stand to look at him with his pompous @@@. Good work Murphy, you summed it up!

#34 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:36 am

#29 john,

I’ve signed it already.

#35 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:38 am

#30 1in18Mil,

That’s so funny!

#36 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 9:39 am

I suggest to everyone that you go to the yestodemocracy site linked in post #15 by lotts1948 to get an idea of how the other side is going to attack us and try to negate our message. They accuse us of swift boating them, but this is swift boating Democratic style.

#37 murphy on 06.30.08 at 9:40 am

John #29 — I signed.

Everyone, it’s easy, free, and quick. Go do it now and then come back and tell us you did!

1of18mill: Great work! Daily Growls can be done ANY day ANY time! Be sure to let us all know when you complete any actions, doesnt need to be on the same day as they are announced.

#38 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:41 am

#31 bythelake,

Those are great ideas! I have no idea what it would cost. Probably different in each city.

#39 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:42 am

#36 BigCat,

I’ll go check it out, thanks!

#40 shampoovta on 06.30.08 at 9:44 am

lotts1948 wrote.

“Now, if ya’ll go there, you’ll find the blog on top accusing PUMA voters of vandalizing the cars in Orlando, FL.. but the second blog is “ANGRY PUMAS email me”.. yeah, right.
http://yestodemocracy.org/

Oh now that offends me. First off, I am no pie throwing liberal! That is the far lefts job to act like little children and make grown ups blush with there silly pie throwing ways.

I bust taggers thats my job so I take grate offence to some one accusing PUMA of vandalism! What do they think? 40 year old women spray paint peoples cars? Sounds like a set up to me.

This is all part of the “they don’t know me” problem.

They don’t know me and they don’t care to,.. or us. Nothing has changed for us!

Unity my ass and grow up be for I throw up!

#41 LilyMaid on 06.30.08 at 9:44 am

The tongue in cheek writing style suits you Murphy.

#42 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 9:45 am

#32 antifish

This was one of her responses…

“Trish, all the way from Canada, why did you join Puma Pac? What is your cause? What is YOU fighting for? Please, I am serious. I would like to know.”

This is my response to her, she will read it here anyway, but I just e-mailed it to her…

“I am fighting for everyone’s right to have their vote count, It really isn’t about which country I am from, its about personal freedom and not being subjected to attacks to depress this freedom. It’s about electing a person fair and square, without political manipulation, bully tactics and voter fraud. The voting system should be honoured otherwise it means nothing and that creates a vulnerability which allows further decay of a country. You need not look far to other countries to see the damage created when people have no right to choose their government. When the rights of individuals are taken away by one person, then sadly America’s leaders have failed every citizen of their country. Not just those who are subjected to this fraudulent system but those who thrive in it.”

#43 dmrr on 06.30.08 at 9:46 am

According to Obama’s communication director, Obama is better suited to handle foreign policy than John McCain because he has “good judgement.” It must be cleverly disguised because I have yet to see anything that Obama has done that exhibits good judgement…

#44 jrhed on 06.30.08 at 9:48 am

Good Morning Pumas,

What a weekend, you’ll all enjoy this. Donna Brazile put out an op-ed this morning on how McCain fears Democratic Unity. :)

I’m getting ready to update my hot links so I should have a link to the article in 30 minutes or so. But…
I have hit upon some of the better remarks in my post this morning at PDOP.

Brazile & Clark’s Spin Is Out Of Control
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/06/brazile-clarks-spin-is-out-of-control.html

By the way, I do find it amusing that the Puma/Just Say No Deal movements are genuine grass-roots movements started by average citizens. Hound was started by who???? :)

Personally, I’m a dog lover, but they could have chosen a better name. Everytime I hear hound I think of Copper (I think that was the name) off of Disney’s the fox and hound.

#45 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 9:49 am

#15 lotts – are you still here? I don’t have an idea for you yet, but just wanted to say that is lousy. I am about to go check it out and sign John’s petition.

Morning antifish, my late night pal – I have to be up and at work, what is your excuse? ;-)

#46 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 9:51 am

Murphy, kudos on the post! Awesome! I agree with Doria to get it into the paper. Or send it to Rendell.

mcr, thanks for the links to the news this morning. Terry has no credibility for me – calling Hillary and Obama’s joint tour a love fest is so over the top I can’t imagine he has any insight whatsoever into Bill’s emotional state. Bill may not be mad, but I have no doubt he will get even.

#47 dmrr on 06.30.08 at 9:56 am

#42 “You need not look far to other countries to see the damage created when people have no right to choose their government. ”

Zimbabwe comes to mind…where getting “beat” in an election takes on a whole new meaning…

#48 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.30.08 at 9:59 am

The Chosen One has NO real change….he was this inexperienced empty suit that the DNC, Super D’s and all the in the tank supporters thought was there WIN the White House nominee. They realized fast that he is not and now they are going to “make him over” and MO. Well they had a very qualified, experienced, dedicated, hardworking, patriotic, and much more candidate – that needed no “make over” but they would rather stay in denial and LOSE the White House than admit they are and were WRONG and fix it…..Hey DNC and everyone else “wake up” it is still not to late!

SO Attention all of those who voted the Chosen One – what you voted for in the caucuses and primaries is not what you thought – but do not worry your party will “make him over” and create an illusion for you so you can feel justified in your vote.
There is no “make over” that can cover up what the Chosen One really represents. Everybody always looks worse the morning after….:)

#49 OnlyHill on 06.30.08 at 9:59 am

Murphy, you out did yourself once again:-). I just shock my head and had to laugh when I heard a hound say the other dominate political party was funding Puma! With a little bit of reason and logic they would understand it is not about empowering political parties but rather how the party’s were formed to serve informed citizenry and empower voters, not the other way around.
Can we get away from using the selected ones picture in post? I believe in what we focus on is what we get so I rather look at those wonderful puma pictures or other fun photographs.

#50 antifish on 06.30.08 at 10:00 am

#36 BigCat,

I’m back. I had to comment there. I can’t believe the blog owner is trying to pin the vandalism of cars in FL on Puma! How low can they go?

#51 lotts1948 on 06.30.08 at 10:00 am

#45 Dragonfly. I’m still around. I was reading the link provided by jrhed, BTW, thanks for that link, good reading!!!

Well, yes, it is lousy, but it really does prove that actual truth and reality have no place on any of these Nobama blogs, and now that I think about it, their lying about me just reinforces how low they can sink.. if they lie and distort something I said in comments to a petition, what else are they lying about? makes you wonder!!!

#52 antifish on 06.30.08 at 10:01 am

#40 shampoovta,

Great minds think alike. The response I left said much of the same. :)

#53 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 10:02 am

#49 OnlyHill

I think that’s a great picture, reminds us in one look what we are fighting against, his arrogance is very apparant in the picture, I love it

#54 lotts1948 on 06.30.08 at 10:03 am

#30 1of18MilforHill08:

Great idea!!! I loved what you did and was it not fate or some other benign intervention that allowed you to find an ad with that particular name!!! gotta love it!!!

#55 antifish on 06.30.08 at 10:04 am

#42 Trish,

What is YOU fighting for? LOL!

I loved your response, but I think it will be too much for her to comprehend.

#56 southern voice on 06.30.08 at 10:05 am

Hi y’all, Last night I posted a link to a website that is a must read. I’m posting it again because I think it is important. It connects the dots on the Democratic primaries. (or un-Democratic primaries) Anyway, it goes into detail about the Republicans fear of Sen. Clinton being President and them helping Obama win primaries. Also, it goes into Obama’s Rezko, Iraqi connections. It’s great! http://senatorobamaisanopportunist.blogspot.com When you get on the website scroll down the right hand side and click on Bamboozling American Electorate Again. I loved it!!!

#57 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 10:05 am

#50 antifish

I didn’t make it clear that the specific article I was referring to at yestodemocracy was the third one on the page. The page is all anti-Puma, but the third one is all about swift boating by declaring all Puma orgs as Republican.

#58 antifish on 06.30.08 at 10:06 am

#43 dmmr,

Yes, if good judgment now equates with choosing a circle of friends who are racist and hate America.

#59 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.30.08 at 10:06 am

#42 trish and #55 antifish
As I read that sentence same thought came to me – is that person going to be able to understand the response? :)

#60 antifish on 06.30.08 at 10:08 am

#44 jrhed,

Oh no! Looks like we are going to email Donna about party unity today.

#61 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 10:08 am

#59 1of18MilforHill08

We’ll see what she responds with, if I was an overly optimistic person I’d think hey maybe some of it might sink in, but I’ve never been overly optimistic about anything :)

#62 dmrr on 06.30.08 at 10:08 am

#58..My point exactly!

#63 antifish on 06.30.08 at 10:09 am

#45 Dragonfly,

I have to get up and let my little Shih Tzus go potty. :)

#64 Lin4Hill on 06.30.08 at 10:10 am

Great commentary, Murphy. Agree that it should be an OP ED.

Question: Should PUMAS ignore the accusation that we are behind the vandalism in Orlando, or should JustSayNoDeal coalition leaders make a public disclaimer? If indeed Pumas did this–I am ashamed of them for taking it too far, but it reeks of deception.
As someone on a previous thread mentioned, the location of the vandalism is near the city’s courthouse and is under camera surveillance. That should help in assessing the culprits.

I only bring this up, because it was shocking yesterday to see how they are trying to block our right to communicate via Internet. Yes, it gives us the knowledge that they are AWARE we are a threat–and that is gratifying in itself, but the slander against Murphy and now against our growing movement with violence offers us another opportunity to speak out–and it also gives us some PR…more and more will ask, “Who are the PUMAS?”

#65 hillaryistheone on 06.30.08 at 10:12 am

I will NOT vote for Obama. I am 58 years old and this with be the first time in my adult life that I will not vote for a democrat for President.

This is the first time in my adult life that I am ashamed of the democratic party!!!

#66 hillaryistheone on 06.30.08 at 10:12 am

I signed ^

#67 antifish on 06.30.08 at 10:13 am

#57 BigCat,

Ugh, I hate to go back over there, but I’ll check it out.

#68 antifish on 06.30.08 at 10:15 am

#56 southern voice,

Thanks for the link. I went there and there’s so much I wanted to read that I had to favorite it so I can go back later.

#69 dmrr on 06.30.08 at 10:16 am

#61…Call me curious Trish, but who is it you’re e-mailing…c’mon give me a hint….

#70 BNQ on 06.30.08 at 10:17 am

Hound? LOL. Why deal with folks legitimate grievances when you can launch ad hominem attacks?

We are clearly hitting a nerve–full steam ahead.

#71 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 10:19 am

#69 dmrr

It’s an obamabot who lurks in here, sent antifish a nasty e-mail.

#72 antifish on 06.30.08 at 10:19 am

#65 hillaryistheone,

I feel your pain, sister. I’m also ashamed of the sham that the Democratic Party has become.

#73 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 10:20 am

I may not understand the blocking problem with Google that people are posting, but I went to Google and entered pumapac and several listings for us came up. When I entered puma, 12 pages came up with all the first page commercial puma sites. I didn’t check the other pages.

Elizabeth Edwards in now on C-Span 2 on a panel with Jonathen Alder discussing the first 100 days of a presidency.

#74 antifish on 06.30.08 at 10:20 am

#70 BNQ,

Exactly! And welcome!

#75 antifish on 06.30.08 at 10:21 am

OK, I’m going back to the Puma hate site. BRB.

#76 storytellers on 06.30.08 at 10:22 am

excellent¡¡¡¡¡, Murphy

#77 dmrr on 06.30.08 at 10:23 am

#71…They may have the capacity to lurk but they have no grip on good grammar…what is YOU up to you sneaky little Canadian?

#78 lotts1948 on 06.30.08 at 10:26 am

#57 BigCatLover

Yes, you’re right. I evidently did not scroll down far enough. I thought there were only 2 blogs on there!!! LOL..

I scrolled down ALL the way this time and read more and more of this new example of “Democratic swift-boating”… oh well, sigh.. I know we might be supposed to turn the other cheek, but I am getting so @*@*@* tired of somebody trying to … dump on me and call it perfume. I’m glad to see that some of us have called them out, though not surprised that any comments just don’t get through their “brainwashed” minds.. and I use the word minds for them very loosely, obviously.

#79 storytellers on 06.30.08 at 10:29 am

what kind of thing is this,????????????????
how can this clan interfere @ our internet?????????
what kind totalitarism is this??????????
picture what they would do , if by any chance they get a hold of the WH???
we do not have laws to protect us?????????????
they are dangerous people?????????
do not think, the country is inmune for a catastrophe to happen¡¡¡¡¡

#80 58states1 on 06.30.08 at 10:33 am

#64 Lin4Hill

I vote YES we should respond. I think we HAVE to. Turn around that post article (mentioned above) about those who know the “truth” about Obama not just the rumors. Well, if PUMA or anyone else (JSND) is going to be accused of something as low as racist vandalism, we can’t leave that out there and not respond.

I can understand not dignifying it with a response, but IMO it’s too risky. Too many people don’t know much about PUMA and the last thing we need is for the one thing they hear about it to be that we might have been behind it.

I admit my first reaction to reading about the vandalism was “saw it coming”. That’s how they play. Oh wait, he’s getting into trouble… let’s make him look like a victim, make people sorry for him, make people write off or hate the movement against him.

We can’t afford to let them define us. Not online and definitely not off.

We have to get the word out, and I think responding to the vandalism is actually a great way to introduce ourselves to more people. To say NO this is not what we stand for and we do not approve. Take a page out of the Obama playbook and DENOUNCE it ;)

What made me really suspicious was the article mentioning the vandals even left calling cards or whatever. Anyone could have printed out PUMA material and altered it and I don’t put it past them. I can see someone saying oh… I saw business cards from a group like that… PUMA? Uh oh….

We don’t need to stoop to their level but I think we DO have to wield our claws when attacked.

#81 dmrr on 06.30.08 at 10:35 am

The Uppity Woman site has a whole rant about Hound and how they claim not to be Anti-Puma:
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com/

#82 pa dem on 06.30.08 at 10:36 am

I think we should take a page out of their book and “DIGG” this site for maximum exposure.

#83 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 10:37 am

Oh Lordy, guess I should check my gmail address more often lol….I don’t know how I got on this email list, probably through some dog gone spy effort…oh, did I mention that scorpions would make great detectives?

Buckle down, we’re going on a ride to OBAMALAND!

From;
David Plouffe
Campaign Manager
Obama for America

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/briefing1?source=20080627_DPV_ND

#84 LisaNC on 06.30.08 at 10:39 am

“Anti-Barack Obama vandals spray-painted 60 vehicles last night at Orlando’s city hall — with enlightening comments like “Oboma [sic] smoke crack” and racial slurs.
The weirdest part? Business cards left at the scene apparently belonged to supporters of Hillary Clinton.”

Hi Puma’s,

I just heard about this and my immediate thought was that it was obama people. Its the kind of thing they have been doing for the last 6 months. I have seen it first hand in NC. It amazing me that anyone would even consider believing it was Hillary supporters knowing the kind of viciousness they have shown to her and her supporters. I hope the public will not be that stupid. :(
Lisa

#85 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 10:40 am

#78 lotts – I just commented on about three of Christina’s posts on that site as “Heather.”

#86 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 10:40 am

Here’s one from “the man” himself. Dated today at 6:16 am.

Tonight is the crucial financial reporting deadline for June.

Right now is the time to step up and own a piece of this campaign. I need your help to take on John McCain, the Republican National Committee, and the shady so-called 527 groups that are dedicated to attacking this campaign using millions of dollars in unregulated contributions.

Please support this movement by making a donation of $25 by Midnight tonight:

http://www.blog.pumapac.org

Together we are setting a new standard for how presidential campaigns will be organized and funded.

For the first time in a generation, a presidential campaign is putting staff in every single state for the general election. Our staff and the Obama Organizing Fellows are getting to work right now to build on grassroots energy in all 50 states.

And — unlike John McCain — we’re going to do it without contributions from Washington lobbyists and special interest PACs that have held too much power for far too long in this country.

By putting our organizational and financial future in your hands, it’s clear who will be responsible for our success and who we will be accountable to in the White House: the people.

But in order to match the resources of our opponents, we’re going to have to do more and get more people involved than ever before. Your donation of $25 right now will help make that happen:

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I’m counting on you to take the lead and build this campaign.

The stakes couldn’t be higher, and every American who hopes for something better from their government is counting on us.

Thank you,

Barack

#87 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 10:43 am

Getting sick yet? Hump, they took my idea of car magnet….grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Monday night deadline….oooh, that’s tonight!

On Monday, everyone will be watching our fundraising totals to see if we can compete with the McCain campaign.

This month is the first test of our grassroots fundraising strategy since we declared our independence from the broken campaign finance system.

You can help build our organization and show that a movement of ordinary people giving only what they can afford is changing the way presidential campaigns are funded.

Now is the perfect time to step up and own a piece of this campaign. And if you make your first donation right now, you’ll receive a special gift.

Make a donation of $15 or more by midnight on Monday, June 30th, and show off your support with an Obama logo car magnet:

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Thanks to the support of people like you, this is the first presidential campaign in a generation to build an organization in all 50 states.

This campaign is committed to changing the political map and competing in every part of the country, not just in traditionally Democratic areas.

It’s going to require unprecedented resources to take on John McCain in states like Virginia, Alaska, North Carolina, Montana, Georgia, North Dakota, Indiana, and Colorado.

And right now, we’re opening offices and adding staff in these states and many more. That’s why your contribution now is so crucial to our success in November.

Make a donation of $15 or more before Monday’s financial reporting deadline. Not only will you help build our 50-state strategy, but you will be able to show your support with an Obama logo car magnet that’s not available anywhere else:

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Thank you for everything you’re doing,

Obama for America

my comment (oh sweetie, your so welcome)

#88 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 10:44 am

#84 LisaNC

I didn’t know it was happening elsewhere. Should have guessed. I just commented as “Heather” (my real name) on Christina’s yestodemocracy site about the vandalism. You know it is telling that the word “apparently” is put with the statement that the business cards belong to Hillary Clinton supporters. Of course, it is extremely easy to get business cards. The cards don’t prove anything.

#89 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 10:45 am

I don’t get it, bythelake, he is telling people to contribute to us?

#90 Headclunker on 06.30.08 at 10:46 am

#40 – Vandals

I do not think PUMA needs to make any public denials, but we should shadow the investigation and evaluate it’s validity and fairness. Vandals leaving business cards?

#91 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 10:47 am

#81 dmrr

The Monty Python video of the roving old ladies gangs on uppity women was a riot. The best laugh of the day!

#92 58states1 on 06.30.08 at 10:48 am

#84 “The weirdest part? Business cards left at the scene apparently belonged to supporters of Hillary Clinton.”

the weirdest part? Business cards left at the scene apparently were printed off a website run by supporters of Hillary Clinton. If I spraypaint something nasty about Hillary on a car and leave Obama campaign material, does that mean they did it? Or even endorsed it?

Hmm… maybe I should take advantage of this… start forging BO autographs and donating the proceeds. :P After all, I guess you don’t need to prove who actually signed it, right? As long as I say he signed it then he did?

Somebody needs some lessons in logic.

#93 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 10:51 am

#83 bythelake

That map on the donate Obama power point video doesn’t look good for him, does it?

#94 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 10:51 am

#89…No, I thought of inserting this website all by myself lol! Why give his donate button and free hits…nope, let’s give to PUMA!

#95 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 10:52 am

#93…BigCat…no it doesn’t….I love the fact that “they” send me emails, hehehe

#96 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 10:55 am

Another spew filled video to his master’s staff; I have to laugh at this one!

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/HQvidmatch?match_campaign_id=10&source=20080624_SH_ND

#97 LisaNC on 06.30.08 at 10:57 am

Dragonfly,
On the night of the NC primary, our campaign was at a pizza place watching the primary results. 10 minutes after the polls closed the man who owned our building called very upset and said some Obama supporters were pulling our signs down off our building and kicking the door. They saw him and yelled, “hey white man its over.” Needless to say, he refused to talk with any tv stations and was scarred to death. 2 blocks down the street at the court house the Obama supporters were marching and they were probably stragglers from there. Its something that will take me a long time to recover from. Its one of the reasons this political race has been so disheartening. I had many Obama people say mean things to my 9 year old granddaughter who campaigned with Hillary signs. At school, they tore her signs off her bookbag, etc. Sorry for raving. But I expect people to behave better than that and I am so saddened by the continued violence.

Lisa

#98 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 10:57 am

When you listen to my post of #96, he really has NO CLUE what he is talking about.

#99 antifish on 06.30.08 at 10:58 am

I just got a phone call from Obama for America. I told them I don’t support Obama and hung up.

#100 storytellers on 06.30.08 at 10:58 am

bythelake #83
believe me
my e-mail was hacked
and my e-mail list is all over the places

#101 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 10:59 am

Did he say fairness and lip service…..LOL

#102 shampoovta on 06.30.08 at 11:00 am

hillaryistheone wrote

“I will NOT vote for Obama. I am 58 years old and this with be the first time in my adult life that I will not vote for a democrat for President.

This is the first time in my adult life that I am ashamed of the democratic party!!!”

OOoohhh this is how I feel but with a seething anger.

I trembled so hard in the last vote I could not sign my name. It was shocking. I was so nerves I would vote Bush by accident.

This time,… THIS TIME! I am angry in that deep hurt and betrayed way. You know what I talking about ladies.

The anger that keeps you from taking him back because you know he won’t change!

Its a break up! So when my hand votes McCain it will be because he was right about you all along and I am pissed off you made him right!

This is the twist in the plot and Obama is the MacGuffin!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin

#103 queen81 on 06.30.08 at 11:01 am

Lisa

NC did seem a bit odd to me. I was in Charlotte for Hillary’s rally and was quite impressed with turnout and crowd energy. I was a bit surprised that the vote wan’t closer. I live in SC so wasn’t at the polls. Did you all expect it to be closer?

#104 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 11:02 am

#100, I want them to send me more….good golly, I can think of dozens of ways to “use” those video clips!

#105 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 11:03 am

#99, I hope you were polite about it lol.

#106 antifish on 06.30.08 at 11:03 am

#97 LisaNC,

That’s just horrible! I hear so many stories like yours. How can a candidate inspire people to act like this? Better yet, why isn’t the media doing its job and reporting on it? I just don’t get it.

#107 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 11:04 am

One fish.
Two fish.
Red fish.
Antifish.

Good morning.

#108 antifish on 06.30.08 at 11:05 am

#105 bythelake,

Yes, I was couteous. I said, “I don’t support Obama. Thank you.” Then I hung up. :)

#109 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 11:06 am

#96 bythelake

Listened to this video also and I love the way he paints skepticism and cynicism as evil things to avoid – because if you apply skepticism to his message, he’s done.

#110 Party Unity... got Kool-aid? on 06.30.08 at 11:06 am

Brilliant!
This saved me from drinking the kool-aid…
it blew out of my nose.
NM PUMA

#111 antifish on 06.30.08 at 11:08 am

#103 queen,

I was completely shocked by the results in NC. They defied all the polling done in the days prior. Seemed somewhat fishy to me.

#112 LisaNC on 06.30.08 at 11:09 am

queen81
” Did you all expect it to be closer?”

Yes, I did. But with that said, I worked at my precinct and was absolutely shocked at the young black males between 20 and 30 that came in and voted. I have worked the polls there for many elections and this was something new. I use to listen to a R & B station here, Jim Joyner? Back several months ago all the radio station did was solicit young blacks to register to vote.
I saw this going on everywhere including in Good Will.
So, I shouldn’t have been surprised…… But I was.
Lisa

#113 antifish on 06.30.08 at 11:10 am

#107 Good morning, bythelake. :)

#114 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 11:11 am

#97 LisaNC, everything you wrote is disturbing, but I am especially angry at how your granddaughter was treated. That is unacceptable. My BP just spiked.

#115 queen81 on 06.30.08 at 11:13 am

Lisa

If everything in SC holds and McCain is still ahead and you all are organizing in NC I will be happy to come up and help where I can make a difference

#116 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 11:13 am

#94 bythelake – hilarious!!

#117 hillfan4mccain on 06.30.08 at 11:14 am

#103 queen81 and Lisa

I am in Wilmington NC, worked very hard on the local campaign. We had a great rally 5k. Which was great since we found out she was coming here the afternoon before. So not much time to get the word out and set up the rally. We couldnt get everybody in. I thought we would do better (votes). I was looking at the voter breakdown by county. Obama took the Durham area and north to VA line (large area). He took some areas around Charlotte and above. Hillary took the rest of the state. I was shocked to find such a HUGE victory for BO here.

#118 cosmeta on 06.30.08 at 11:18 am

REPOSTED FROM THE OVERNIGHT THREAD
228 cosmeta on 06.30.08 at 11:07 am

**************
#487 alohapuma on 06.29.08 at 9:57 pm, WROTE IN YESTERDAY’S THREAD

[[ Do not want to get into any “in-fighting”, but cosmeta I’ve got a bone to pick…

You responded to my suggestions regarding paying down Hillary’s debt by describing it as a choice between putting food on the table or paying Hillary’s debt. Did I understand you correctly?]]

Yes, I said that, not for you or your circumstance but for mine. As to where I am coming from here in part are my demographics:

– female voter
– white american
– senior citizen
– blue collar

I am a registered republican for Hillary.
He is a registered democrate for Hillary.
We will both switch to McCain in the fall.

IOW, we are now living on a fixed income and managing to keep up with our own lives and the lives of our two married children and grandchildren.

I must have donated well over $500 to Hillary over the course of the campaign; a huge committment on my part considering that this year was the very first time in my entire adult life (to use MO’s term) that I have ever been so enthrilled and so involved in a politcal primary campagin; I usually only becoming involved at the General.

I may not be maxed out as far as what is allowed, but I am certainly maxed out as far as what I can afford to donate to Hillary, to PUMA or to McCain; and yes, even to our son who, in my opinion needs *my* help more than Hillary.

********

[[ Well..it’s OK to ignore my other posts.]]

I don’t think I am ignoring anyone; nor should I be responsible for responding to every single post, even if addressed to me… simply because I do not read every single post, and will often take breaks away from my pc and when I come back, do not always begin where I left off. So my point is, in this fast moving blog, I like the rest of you find it difficult to keep up with the volume here. But I am *not* ignoring you.

#119 KYkitten on 06.30.08 at 11:20 am

antifish i loved your comment on the vandalism thread on the anti-puma site! That is such a good pt– we can’t be hormonal old ladies and raging street thugs which is it? — And that is so lame about CR being one of the types of puma shoes. That is a little bit far-fetched to say the least as well as completely insulting and cruel to blame that vandalism on PUMA? I can hardly stomach being on that blog much less reading the vile comments.

at #73 Big Cat Lover–as far as Google , I think it is not the search engine that is affected, but it is google’s blogging system/format “blogspot” –they have reportedly shut down blogspot anti-obama sites.

#120 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 11:20 am

Morning all. This link has some great yard signs and bumper stickers. Hillary or McCain, Don’t blame me I voted for hIllary. No way no how no bo, etc.

http://www.cafepress.com/no_votes_obama

#121 Ario on 06.30.08 at 11:21 am

on a sidenote…i cant believe how the koreans are behaving over american beef…..umm hello lets see some of that madness aimed at that tyrant 20 miles north of seoul!

#122 LisaNC on 06.30.08 at 11:21 am

Dragonfly:
Well, she is one brave little girl. She is a blond headed blue eyed blundle of joy who goes to a 7 percent white city school that predominately supported Obama wearing her Hillary Rocks button and her I’m Hillary’s girl button. She met many powerful women like, Dr. Marica Dyson, Jehnue Greene, Heather Tom, etc. and it was wonderful. The last week of school she walked around like she was talking threw a blow horn saying, ” Go John McCain.” Her teachers said they were very proud of her and just how much she learned about politics. I am very proud too that we shared the whole experience. She was disappointed in not meeting Hillary but she did have a poem she wrote about Hillary signed by Bill Clinton. I was fortunate enough to meet both of them several times. Hillary is my hero. I don’t think there is a human being in the world who is so blessed with beauty, brains and humanity.
Thanks for letting me have my say.
Lisa

#123 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 11:22 am

I have a story to share;

We all know Obama is out soliciting votes from black Americans, it’s all over the news.

That is not winning an election. That is stacking the deck.

I have a friend who is black. Him and I go round and round because he has never EVER exercised his “right to vote” during any other election in his lifetime, until now.

Do you know what he told me when I asked him why is he bothering to vote this year?

“Because Obama is black man!”

I was up front and quite frank with him and told him that was the poorest excuse EVER to vote for a person because of the color of his skin.

I told him how I felt about Obama’s lack of qualifications. It didn’t matter to him. All that mattered was Obama is black.

End of story, off my chest.

#124 AwesomePuma87 on 06.30.08 at 11:22 am

HAHAHA. LOL!!!

That acrnonym is so hilarious. I think people really respnd to funny things like that. Humor and a message is unbeatable.

What other acronyms can we come up with?

PUMAs are the best. NO H.O.U.N.D. DOGS HERE!!!!!

#125 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 11:22 am

#119 KYkitten

Thanks for the clarification on the Google blogspot thing. I figured I misunderstood something.

#126 Ergot4Hill on 06.30.08 at 11:24 am

What a great ironic post – I love it Murphy!

Remember the jerks that interrupted a Hillary event with the “Iron my shirt” chant?

….well now we are irony-ing their shirts LOL!

#127 Ario on 06.30.08 at 11:25 am

bythelake

im a black man…and thats a very poor reason to vote for a person and Dr. King would be disappointed!

#128 KYkitten on 06.30.08 at 11:25 am

at #97 that is just so awful to say the least :( – I am soo sorry that happened to you all and especially your granddaughter– extremely disturbing. What a wonderful thing to see a young child take an interest in an election, and then to have that happen :( ….sigh. :(

#129 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 11:26 am

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If you want the P.U.M.A. PAC Daily Growl sent to your email when it’s ready, please email me.

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If you have emailed me and are not getting it, please send me another email.

Today’s is a spew-coffee-out-of-your-nose GROWL – so please, no beverages or food in the mouth when opening.

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#130 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 11:27 am

#127…Ario….I appreciate your comment.

I’m so disappointed in my friend but I still love him, he’s a great guy. :>)

#131 LisaNC on 06.30.08 at 11:29 am

Ario,

I think Dr. King would be very disappointed too.
I also have a very good black male friend voting for Obama who can’t even remember his name. He call’s him Bo “Rack.” Instead of Bo Rock. I tell him all the time that he needs to get his name right. He is only voting for him because he is black. He will tell you that he has know idea what Obama has done or who he is.

Lisa

#132 cosmeta on 06.30.08 at 11:30 am

When over the course of time, folks start attributing to me, more power than what I should have, I think it wise of me to move on because I neither seek it, nor do I want it. I represent no one here, and speak as one solitary individual; no more and no less. So I think it time for me to say my fare-thee-wells or at least stop posting; and for me, that also means to stop reading lest I be moved to post.

Mr O may move people to use their feet but I am motivated by thought and rely most heavily upon my hands and heart. IOW, I write too much and say too little… and yes, it would appear, offend when that is certainly not my intension.

Stay well,
Be happy!

And stay in the moment!

HILLARY IN ’08
There can be no other!

#133 mini vee on 06.30.08 at 11:30 am

Ewww, I was sipping my coffee and saw that photo of BO and his nostrils. I think that photo is so telling of his highness. Great acronym tho!

#97 LisaNC, I am sorry that your 9 year old grand daughter got that kind of treatment. BO supporters have no shame when it comes to harassment. The last straw for me was when I met a senior who told me that some of his supporters heckled her and her friends at a caucus by calling them the c-word and the b-word. They laughed and other BO supporters sat nearby and said NOTHING. What’s wrong with these people, I mean, seriously…seniors, who calls someone’s grandmother these vile names?

#134 storytellers on 06.30.08 at 11:30 am

bythelake
do not bother,
if they want to behave that way
if they do not know what are the qualities to look for in a politician
there is nothing to do
they have fallen in the narcolepsy group

#135 Hill4me on 06.30.08 at 11:33 am

FYI: BUS ADVERTISING
don’t have time this morning to go back and see who posted the blog re: bus advertising/media and someone may have already answered but here’s what I know:
There are 3 types of bus media buys:

1) a wrap 2)side banner 3) bus tail

3) The least expensive is the “tail” (the back side that you stare, while in your car, when sitting in traffic behind a bus)
2) Side banners are next in cost, but can be read/seen only by pedestrians on foot or folks parked or sitting in traffic.
3) Wraps cover the entire bus, definitely gets the message out there, whether the viewer is in a moving car or on the street, some cool stuff out there, but cost $$$$$!

Bus transit Media buys are usually negotiated and contracted as 1-3 month minimum buys and the cost and available scheduling are determined by each cities’ transit company, and by individual bus routes. If you’re interested in purchasing transit advertising, the easiest way to find out the name of the company who handles your own city transit media, is to simply call your local bus company and ask them who handles it for them.
If Puma (Murphy) wants to buy transit space in multiple cities, I’d suggest using an agency to purchase and negotiate the buys for you–designating times, but be VERY SPECIFIC on the bus routes. This part is crucial in our case. Pumas want to strategically hit the right area demogs.
Like our votes, you’d want your every advertising dollar to count!

Hope this helps pumas.

#136 LisaNC on 06.30.08 at 11:34 am

minnie Vee,
I think it has something to do with the Kool aid. Some of these people are my friends. When they start talking Obama…….. Something happens to them.
I am serious and thats the sad part.
They become angry people that I just don’t know. :(

Lisa

#137 KYkitten on 06.30.08 at 11:38 am

at #125 no problem BigCatLover– It was confusing at best. Either way it’s pretty bad :(

#138 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 11:40 am

#121 Ario

What is happening with american beef?

#139 snowtiger on 06.30.08 at 11:40 am

Good morning,
Just another update from a “stealth puma” as I was called last time I posted. I love the label btw. I feel so “Bondish”. Lol
This weekend I noticed the Obama supporters had three themes. They were all saying how bad MCCain would be, how “Bo” should not be helping Hillary pay off her debt and how all Pumas are really republican operatives.
Amazing.
Also I noticed one more thing. They, the “o” supporters, seem to realize he can not win the general election.
No more about what a great president he would make, no more “change” no more that “o” is new kind of politician.
I wanted to see if this was a “movement” wide shift so I went over to the Huffington Post and read through the comments.
Yup. Same exact themes and same resignation to defeat.
Seems the Pumas have had an amazing effect.
Can you say Hillary in august?

#140 droc on 06.30.08 at 11:41 am

For those of you good folks talking about the North Carolina primary, there was likely massive vote fraud that took place in Republican areas of the Raleigh Durham area where Obama was supposedly getting a 14 to 1 advantage in these areas. It has all the whiff of some kind of fraud.

There was also vote fraud in the Obama areas in Indiana. Even Sen. Bayh said that a recount of all the ballots would show a bigger margin of victory for Hillary in Indiana.

George Soros & Co. along with Karl Rove were the likely culprits in this. The controlled media was complicit with their slanted and fraudulent coverage that evening. Yes,conspiracies exist. They may not be popularly accepted, but that does not make them false.

That said, we still have less than 2 months to organize against Obama and the impotent leadership of the Democratic Party.

#141 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 11:42 am

#132, I found your posts quite informative. We all can’t agree all the time on every single issue, that is what makes us all special.

#142 mini vee on 06.30.08 at 11:43 am

LisaNC, but that’s just it. All of a sudden, we are being ridiculed and harassed for expressing our freedom of speech and our right to vote by these thugs. I don’t care if these people don’t like Hillary, but to go to the extreme and harass her supporters, shutting down anti-Obama sites and tearing down banners on personal property? Seriously, I’m so worried for our America. It’s like we’re living in a third world country where political intimidation exists.

#143 utahpuma on 06.30.08 at 11:45 am

Has anyone checked into movie theater advertising?

#144 queen81 on 06.30.08 at 11:45 am

snowtiger

“republican operatives” LOL. My parents would be so proud! They’ve spent my whole life complaining because I’m so liberal. It makes me giggle. Do I get a spy name?

#145 hillfan4mccain on 06.30.08 at 11:46 am

Cosmeta

I would be totally bummed if you left! Please dont.

#146 rlp33 on 06.30.08 at 11:46 am

Hi all PUMA’s…

saw this online…http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080630/pl_politico/11435

This could be good right? for Mccain….

I think alot of people liked him, although he did not get the nomination.

#147 snowtiger on 06.30.08 at 11:47 am

Well queen you can be a double “o” operative. :)

#148 mcr on 06.30.08 at 11:49 am

WOW: Don’t miss this.

Re: Obama’s Two Faces and Forked Tongue »

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/30/obamas-two-faces-and-forked-tongue/#more-3325
June 30, 2008 at 10:00 AM Medusa and Bud White

“Two-faced? Hypocritical? Or showing his true colors? Last week Barack Obama made 180 degree turns on three previous positions he had taken in order to seduce liberal Democrats. In an article entitled “For Obama, winning is everything“, Michael Tomasky writes of these changes, claiming that:

It’s acceptable – and necessary – for Barack Obama to compromise his liberal principles in order to get elected .”

#149 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 11:51 am

Murphy is it possible to add the Hillary Rocky video to the You Tube list?

#150 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 11:53 am

must be a full moon this week, everyone close their curtains at night so they don’t get affected by it

#151 deadgirlsrise on 06.30.08 at 11:54 am

Regarding the mayhem and intimidation directed at Hillary Clinton Supporters.

Maybe we should stop calling them Obamaites, and instead refer to them as Baathists

#152 mpdamon on 06.30.08 at 11:54 am

Cosmeta

Please reconsider. We might get a little testy at times;
PUMAS are known for this, but ultimately we are united in a common goal which is to reclaim our Party. It can be very lonely out there without pals . . . we need each other.

#153 Hill4me on 06.30.08 at 11:54 am

Utahpuma: Movie theatre advertising is good, but your primary audience there are teens and young adults with older demogs secondary. If these are your target audiences, then yes, it would be a good media buy. And easy to create the stills for.
Again, the theatre chain dictates the costs, and it’s based on a certain time by month(s) contract agreement.

Good idea though. This would be Murphy’s call since she’s the alpha of the pack.

#154 CTKEY on 06.30.08 at 11:55 am

Wow…I’ve never been a republican operative….Can I tell my friends ? At least I am not a troll. I wonder what’s worse, Obama troll or Republican operative? Remember when women were feminists ? I was too young to be a hippie. aw heck…where is this going.

Maybe I should settle and be a plain ‘ol American VOTER. Gee, I wonder who operatives vote for ? …….

#155 Battle for the Hill on 06.30.08 at 11:58 am

#37 I signed the petition.

#156 mcr on 06.30.08 at 11:58 am

RE: Obama’s Katrina

Grim proving ground for Obama’s housing policy, Boston Globe

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=full

By Binyamin Appelbaum Globe Staff / June 27, 2008
“Jamie Kalven, a longtime Chicago housing activist, put it this way: “I hope there is not much predictive value in his history and in his involvement with that community.”

#157 Ario on 06.30.08 at 11:59 am

good god, the fact that nobama has to do a speech on patriotism speaks tons!

#158 Henerietta on 06.30.08 at 11:59 am

I need to link to the blog where it talks about our four million people. I have a skeptic in my circle of friends.

#159 john on 06.30.08 at 11:59 am

Obama’s for Equal Pay, Yet Pays Female Staffers Less Than Males

CNSNews.com) – While Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has vowed to make pay equity for women a top priority if elected president, an analysis of his Senate staff shows that women are outnumbered and out-paid by men.

That is in contrast to Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s Senate office, where women, for the most part, out-rank and are paid more than men.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

#160 notfollowingthepiedpiper on 06.30.08 at 12:00 pm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25447998

O-bomb-a’s theatrics are sickening … a SHOW of unity in a town called Unity, and a SHOW of patriotism in a town known as Flag City USA… just more empty suit antics !!! He thinks our heads are as empty as his suit! Everytime someone calls him on something, he stands shouting (very eloquently), “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”. News for him: This isn’t the land of Oz and we are paying attention! When all else fails, he plays the race card and blames every logical complaint against him on racial His problem is way below the surface of his skin. Love the way this article asserts its version of the “truth”. As if repeating it enough will make it true!

#161 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 12:00 pm

anti I’m getting jealous. I get no mail from bo, no phone calls, no people knocking on my doors….and now the DNC is ignoring me too :( I don’t get to have fun anymore. As for the cars in FL I have a personal response to that but can’t give any trolls reading any ideas as to my response to that :( They taking the fun out of everything!

#162 mcr on 06.30.08 at 12:05 pm

Re: Brazile & Clark’s Spin Is Out Of Control

http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/
Monday, June 30, 2008

“Has the Obama campaign and their surrogates switched strategies from Hypnosis to outright Brainwashing?

Are we so ignorant as Americans that we would give credibility to the spin coming out of the Obama campaign?

Two Obama surrogates put a new spin on their rhetoric this weekend that have taken political lunacy to a new level. On Saturday, Wesley Clark, an individual whose service and love of this country attacked John McCain’s military service and qualifications for the presidency. Meanwhile, Donna Brazile, published an op-ed piece that now makes me question whether she is actually living in Obama World or here on planet earth with the rest of us.”

#163 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 12:05 pm

The GROWL is loose. Check your emails if you’ve requested it.

#164 lotts1948 on 06.30.08 at 12:05 pm

#161 – Taffy

Don’t worry, they’ll probably attack you on something or the other soon. After all, they’ve just started some new smear campaigns and now they’re attacking all of us. Actually, they are attacking all Pumas, so you’re included LOL.

#165 mpdamon on 06.30.08 at 12:08 pm

#138
Re: American beef. The problem is genetic engineering,
not only in beef but in grains as well. Every time you
see “high fructose corn syrup” you are dealing with a genetically-modified product. Many countries don’t want to import our food just for that reason.

back to PUMA stuff: I plan to do more postings and mailbox stuffing this PM. Time to snack on Hounds.

#166 michelle47 on 06.30.08 at 12:09 pm

Ugh…. Now patriotism, how he gets away with this is beyond my scope of thinking, never Obama! I want to see what he has to say but fear that I may lose my lunch. Wesley Clark should be ashamed of himself, are these people all mad, what do they see in him anyway. Patriotism what a joke!

#167 go_Ohio_Lady on 06.30.08 at 12:11 pm

Does anyone know Terry McAuliffe’s email address or a way to contact Terry? I just talked with the Ohio Secretary of State’s office again and as of this time the Clinton Campaign nor Hillary has filed for “Declaration of Intent” as a write-in which will make any write-in for Hillary in November VOID. I would like to get an answer from Terry McAuliffe if possible.

#168 mcr on 06.30.08 at 12:12 pm

Re: Obama’s New Truthful Campaign Seal and More

http://papundits.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/obamas-new-truthful-campaign-seal-and-more/
Posted by papundits on June 28, 2008

#169 antifish on 06.30.08 at 12:13 pm

I’m watching FOX and they are saying Obama is going to give a speech on patriotism. Is that his answer to everything? If I get criticized, I’ll just give a speech and it will go away.

Will a speech erase the 20 years he spent listening to Reverend Wright’s anti-American rants? Will a speech explain why he refused to wear a flag pin, belittling those who did, only to flip-flop and put it back on? Will a speech explain why he was photographed with his hands by his sides during the playing of the national anthem? Will a speech erase his friendship with William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, two terrorists who attacked the US Government? I think not.

#170 firechief on 06.30.08 at 12:13 pm

#64 Lin4Hill, what’s this about their blocking our right to communicate via Internet? Who, exactly? I haven’t read anything about this (and I rarely watch TV news anymore). They can’t do that. Please fill us in. Thanks!

I find it hard to believe any Clinton supporter would deface cars, etc. Smells fishy to me.

IMHO, Sen. Obama needs to directly address the generally bad behavior exhibited by many of his supporters. Unfortunately, I know of many state-level Clinton delegates who were treated very badly by BO delegates while at our local district caucuses and state convention. I can only hope that any BO delegates going on to the national convention will be better behaved.

#171 Dreyfus3 NJ on 06.30.08 at 12:13 pm

Happy Monday fellow PUMA members ~

signed the petition

#172 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 12:14 pm

HEY!

Our 1 month birthday is imminent!

We need a BIRTHDAY PARTY!

:)

#173 go_Ohio_Lady on 06.30.08 at 12:14 pm

Also, many have said that they would like to see Hillary run as an Independent. Ohio law states that anyone who runs as a Democrat or Republician in the presidential primaries can not run as an Independent for president in the General Election.

#174 Pink Panther on 06.30.08 at 12:19 pm

The new Democratic Party and Obama DO NOT represent the main core values of the Democratic Party. The new Democratic Party, lead by Obama, has become the party of racism, sexism, and discriminates base on age and religion. Obama and his supporters have clearly set this example during the primary.

Obama is the one who attended a racist church for 20 years. Obama got married in that church and had his children attend and baptized in that church.

Obama is the one who wrote in his autobiography, Dreams of My Father: A Story of Race & Inheritance, “That’s just how white folks will do you.”

Obama is the one who referred to his grandmother as a “typical white person.”

Obama associated with Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Bill Ayers, Faher Michael Pflger and Rashid Khalidi.

Castro, Gaddafi, Kim Jong, Hamas and Hugo Chavez have all voiced support for Obama.

It is not a “knee jerk” reaction for Hillary supporters to vote for McCain. Our allegiance is to America before political party. We want someone who can be trusted. Obama cannot be trusted.

How could anyone who has allegiance to America or believes in equality for all support Obama?

#175 jrhed on 06.30.08 at 12:20 pm

#158 – The 4 million article is located at PDOP.

http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com

Yesterdays article

#176 jrhed on 06.30.08 at 12:21 pm

#158 – There is also an email button at the bottom of the article so you can conveniently deliver it to your “skeptical” friends. Tell them, whatever they do, don’t drink the kool-aid.

#177 mystic4hill on 06.30.08 at 12:22 pm

Good morning, everyone. bitterpoliticz (http://tinyurl.com/3wtoem) has a great new Daily Call To Action. Here’s a copy of my email to the 7 MSM cable news targets:

10 REASONS WHY I AM A PUMA:

1) The Preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America starts out, “We the People”. Yet, the will of 18 million of “we the people” was usurped by the DNC, and “we the people” became “we the leaders of the Democratic party.”

2) The Supreme Court, in Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533, 84 S. Ct. 1362, 12 L. Ed. 2d 506 (1964), established the principle of “one person, one vote” based on the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The DNC/RBC ignored that principle on May 31, 2008, with their decisions regarding the voters in Michigan and Florida, and with their reassignment of uncommitted voters and Clinton voters to Obama.

3) In an article written by Mark Murray and posted April 22, 2008 on First Read, Senator Obama is quoted as saying, “. . .what we’re doing is making sure that every single voter in America has a chance to participate in the primaries. . .” What happened to Michigan and Florida voters, Senator? You had an opportunity to approve a revote, and you didn’t. Instead, you allowed voters to be relegated to ½ person status, and accepted votes that did not belong to you.

4) On August 18, 1920, the 19th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America gave women the right to vote. Yet, 88 years later, women still are fighting for equality in every aspect of life. This was never more apparent than this primary race, where the mainstream media, Obama surrogates, and Senator Obama himself, engaged in the most despicable expressions of sexism and misogyny towards Senator Clinton and, therefore, all women. The Democratic party remained silent.

5) A nominee selected by the Democratic party who counts among his friends, associates, mentors, and spiritual guides, the following: Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, and Rashid Khalidi, is not a nominee whose judgment I can trust.

6) From Rezko Watch: The squat brick buildings of Grove Parc Plaza, in a dense neighborhood that Barack Obama represented for eight years as a state senator, hold 504 apartments subsidized by the federal government for people who can’t afford to live anywhere else. But it’s not safe to live here. As the Boston Globe’s Binyamin Appelbaum wrote on June 27, 2008, this is a “[g]rim proving ground for Obama’s housing policy.”

7) In February 2008, Senator Obama issued a statement on the FISA bill, declaring “I am proud to stand with Senator Dodd, Senator Feingold and a grassroots movement of Americans who are refusing to let President Bush put protections for special interests ahead of our security and our liberty.” This week, he announced his support for that same bill. Flip. Flop. Can’t be trusted to keep his word. On MY privacy rights.

8) Last year, both Senators Obama and McCain indicated in separate commitments that they would participate in the public system for the general election, as long as both candidates agreed. On June 19, 2008, Obama said Thursday he’ll bypass the federal public financing system in the general election, abandoning that earlier commitment. Flip. Flop. Can’t be trusted to keep his word.

9) PRIDEChicago Celebration 2008 – 39th Annual Parade, Sunday June 29. In Chicago, The Gay and Lesbian Pride Parade is an institution. It’s an outrageous event surrounded by the good-moodest of crowds, and it’s not to be missed. Gay, straight, not sure, not particular — it’s a day to celebrate being yourself. And everyone is welcome. Senator Obama did not show up. His town, yet he’s a no-show. As a PFLAG, I’m offended. Deeply.

10) And let’s not forget this: the nominee selected by the Democratic party is simply not qualified. Please read the excellent post “In Response to Salon: Why Clinton Voters Say They Won’t Support Obama” by Ani posted at Bitter Politicz here: http://camille424.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/in-response-to-salon-why-clinton-voters-say-they-wont-support-obama/

#178 Lorey on 06.30.08 at 12:24 pm

Obama is a speech and spin machine. He is the man of many words and and no substance. He is the Manchurian candidate.

#179 SparkForHill on 06.30.08 at 12:26 pm

No matter how good BO/DEAN’s “platform” is, they ignore the millions’ will, voice, and push them to the edge, and created so much bitterness, it is not a good thing to have them elected. People do not feel they are loved by their leader anymore, this is why they cannot win without all the People on their side.

#180 texassherry on 06.30.08 at 12:26 pm

Murphy- Good morning. You have mail.

#181 michelle47 on 06.30.08 at 12:29 pm

This man makes me ill, speeches, speeches and more speeches, where is the action, where are the solutions? I guarantee this speech will go down in history, just like all the others(according to the media). The only historic thing Obama has done…. He turned the democratic party on it’s head and divided it’s members. Nothing he says will ever sway me and I mean NOTHING! Empty suit, empty promises and empty head. We need a real patriot and HE IS NOT IT!

#182 doria on 06.30.08 at 12:30 pm

Just went to bitterpoliticz and sent out my media e-mails. Hope you all get a chance.

Contributed to Pumapac.

Contributed to Hillary.

#183 mpdamon on 06.30.08 at 12:31 pm

Just read Daily Growl – great idea but I did that last week, so it’s back to bulletin board postings and mailbox flyers.

#177
great work.

If anyone if interested on June 16th Chris Mathews did a segment with Heidi harris and Amy Goodman about
“female voters ” as if we are a monolithic group. It’s an interesting read anyway.

#184 PA4HILL08 on 06.30.08 at 12:33 pm

#12 henry on 06.30.08 at 9:11 am

————————-

Welcome aboard the Puma express, Henry!

#185 queen81 on 06.30.08 at 12:35 pm

Surprise surprise, another speech. If I recall, it was after his race speech that we all became racists. Guess we can expect to be called unpatriotic after this. Humorous to me that I will probably be called unpatriotic by people who have never voted before.

#186 michelle47 on 06.30.08 at 12:39 pm

THIS GUY IS FULL OF SHIT……………

#187 doria on 06.30.08 at 12:40 pm

Murphy..I’ve been trying to contribute but the screen keeps coming back to blank info….Did my contribution go through?

#188 Lorey on 06.30.08 at 12:42 pm

The article of politically drunk on power on pumas mentioned by jrhed #158 is great.

Although I feel sad that the majority of Hillary supporters have accepted the call for Unity, I am confident that 4 million can make a difference in the general election to stop BHO and his trolls.

#189 michelle47 on 06.30.08 at 12:43 pm

He literally said this is a country for and by the people, just not the people of Michigan and Florida, and all the others that were bullied and threatened to vote in their caucuses.

#190 queen81 on 06.30.08 at 12:45 pm

Lorey,

4 million can make a difference. John Kerry lost by just over 3 million. That’s precisely the reason they fear us, and the reason we need to keep growing our numbers!

#191 zombiefortruth on 06.30.08 at 12:46 pm

I have a REAL PROBLEM for BHO that he NEEDS TO ANSWER FOR!!!!!

Whay do you get when you tke

IMUS
CHRIS ROCK
& BARACK OBAMA??????

A CLEAR PICTURE OF HYPOCRACY ON RACE!!!!!!

Obama said “INUS WOULD NOT BE WORKING FOR ME AND I WILL NOT GO BACK ON HIS SHOW,

BUT CHRIS ROCK, THAT HAS SAID FAR WORSE INTRODUCED BARRACK OBAMA AT THE APPOLO!!!!!!

#192 zombiefortruth on 06.30.08 at 12:47 pm

I am woring on a video now that will show the American People the undisputable hypocrasy in what BHO has said!

#193 admin on 06.30.08 at 12:50 pm

Trish — if you are here!

please check your home email and/or send me an email as soon as you can.

Need info on the wiki page asap.

thanks!

#194 murphy on 06.30.08 at 12:50 pm

oops — wrong hat.

Trish — if you are here!

please check your home email and/or send me an email as soon as you can.

Need info on the wiki page asap.

thanks!

#195 murphy on 06.30.08 at 12:51 pm

Doria #187
Please send me an email at murphy@pumapac.org

thanks!

#196 annabelle on 06.30.08 at 12:52 pm

Fantastic post!

#197 gostrumcat on 06.30.08 at 12:56 pm

I’m late to the party as always… I just edited and printed out my “job app” for POTUS to send to Howie. I look pretty darned good on paper, I gotta warn you. Also, when you guys created the Hillary money I copied 3 to a page and printed some for the shameless letters I keep getting from Washington State Dems for the 50 state thing. ” Without your support, we just don’t have the money to carry this out in Washington, blah blah”, so I put a wad of “cash” in the envelope and told Dwight Pelz to make it work. They tick me off anyway because as a caucus state, we’re supposed to all have a chance to become delegates at National but every time the same tired old former party leaders and bootlickers get to go. Thanks for letting me have some fun!

#198 mcr on 06.30.08 at 12:58 pm

Re: Another flip-flop: Wesley Clark attacks McCain & then Obama team rejects Clark’s comments. WEIRD!

Lynn Sweet, The Scoop from Washington, 6-30-08

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/

“After McCain campaign complains, Obama team rejects comments of Wesley Clark.”

#199 ElyLos Angeles on 06.30.08 at 12:59 pm

Lorey # 188
I don’t think the majority of Hillary supportes have accepted Unity, I maybe crazy but I have hope, that something happen and Hillary become the candidate.
That’s one of the reasons I did’nt change party.

#200 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 1:02 pm

Hi Pumas – Just cancelled my subscription to Time mag after 30 years – told them when they were no longer a shill for Obama – maybe I would reconsider & signed it with PUMA democrat by my name & then realized after I sealed the damn envelope that I changed by affiliation to Independent – ed would probably say I’m a hound since you can’t teach an old dog new tricks – :(

#201 go_Ohio_Lady on 06.30.08 at 1:05 pm

#200 Susie1945, LOL

#202 writer4starz on 06.30.08 at 1:07 pm

LisaNC, I, too, was verbally assaulted by BO lunatics, in my case, when standing outside the Hillary campaign office in Louisville, KY while holding a Hillary for President sign. There were about 30 of us with signs and we were being polite, smiling, waving, as people drove by. Many beeped their horns in approval and waved, but the Obama people were vulgar and hostile. I mean, extremely hostile! BHO people were yelling “F” you! “F” Hillary! Obama rocks!, etc. One woman, I swear, stopped and nearly got out of her car as she went into a 3 minute long rant at me, screaming about how Obama was the only one to vote for. I didn’t say a word to this woman to provoke her. There were children standing there, holding Hillary signs and hearing all this. I made up my mind, then and there, I wouldn’t vote for BO no matter who was running against him. I met my husband at a nice restaurant after the rally. He asked me what was wrong. I said that I have never been spoken to like that in all my 58 years. And I couldn’t eat my dinner. I took my dinner home in a box and my teenaged daughter ate it the next day. I will never vote for this man. He and his followers have absolutely no morals and no scruples whatsoever. Watching this whole Obama-is-the-new-messiah thing play out reminds me of that movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Everyone around me is turning into an unrecognizable (Obama) automaton. PUMAs, we can’t give up the fight! Hang in there LisaNC. Believe me, I feel your pain.

#203 alohapuma on 06.30.08 at 1:10 pm

Cosmeta,

You are a huge contributor here and leaving seems like a waste. I certainly would hate to see it.

We are all going above and beyond here…

Please reconsider.

#204 alohapuma on 06.30.08 at 1:12 pm

Looks like Westley Clark is not the choice for VP.

#205 go_Ohio_Lady on 06.30.08 at 1:12 pm

Before I ask, not that I give a rat’s a$$ about what B.H.O. says or lies about, this is something very personal to me. Has anyone heard B.H.O. say anything about what he would or would not do about the housing crises and the home foreclosures?

#206 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 1:13 pm

#194 murphy

Murphy, sent you back a response

#207 murphy on 06.30.08 at 1:15 pm

zombiefortruth — whoa there!

Let’s leave the race-baiting for others to use.
It simply does not matter what color Barack Obama is, other than that his candidacy is historic because of his African heritage. And that he is a symbol of pride and hope for millions of African American citizens. This is indisputable fact.

That being said, it really does not matter what Obama says about race. He has proven himself over and over again to be an empty suit who panders to whichever voting group he thinks he needs at the time. He is a marvelously inept politician.

Hypocrite? yes.
Panderer? yes.
Divisive? yes.
Race Baiter? yes.
Mud slinger? yes.
Lacking in judgment and honesty? yes.

That is MORE than enough for all Americans to reject him.

#208 murphy on 06.30.08 at 1:15 pm

thanks trish!

#209 doria on 06.30.08 at 1:16 pm

Regarding whether or not we should respond to the accusations of vandalism….I think this deserves the same response we made to HOUND….laughter.

#210 Seattlegirl on 06.30.08 at 1:16 pm

Henry, I haven’t been brave enough to wear a McCain pin yet but your experience gives me courage. I have had about as much verbal abuse at the hands of BObots as I am willing to take and the thought of being ambushed by their blabber while I am out and about has kept my McCain gear on my desk. I know there are many people out there who will not vote BO but don’t want to be hassled by BObots for their choice and so they keep it quiet but it is important to take a stand so other PUMAs don’t feel they are alone. I have a bumper sticker that says something like “I want a President not a Messiah” but since my kids drive my car I am afraid of them being targeted by BObots. I guess I better get over my fears.

I searched HOUND as I don’t really know about them (haven’t been able to read much in a few days) but I assume they are a anti PUMA group or are they pro BO. Creepy because hounds are used to hunt Cougars so is their name some sort of a threat?! Anyway this is funny the first link that came up was Huckleberry Hound. Hee hee hee undemure cackle!

I did read that site recommended in a post above to see what they said about PUMAs. ICK! BO bots really like to research folks to “prove” their lack of perfection don’t they? I have never had attaining “perfection” as defined by any authority as my goal in life. So I guess I am in trouble if the Bobots take over! At least I know I am in good company PUMAs!

I am curious about HOUNDS but I think it is a waste of time and energy to engage these people.

#211 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 1:18 pm

LisaNC & Writer4starz – something similar happened to the daughter of my best friend (since 7th grade). Daughter is a elem teacher in Mpls suburb – now this is MN – gets cold here :) – black kid in her class didn’t have winter coat so her 4th grade teachers all chipped in & bought kid a Columbia winter parka – after xmas break – kid came to school with thin windbreaker – no parka – Tanya called parents to inquire what happened did he lose coat, etc – father called her a stupid white bitch among other words & then told her “Just wait til my man Obama gets elected, we’ll take care of all you white motherf**kers”. That was the day I knew I wasn’t voting for him & we hadn’t even had our circus (sorry caucas) yet & that was a real eye opening experience too…………. so there ya’ go

I’m still having trouble with Hillary also – gives me mental pics of abused woman & just makes me nuts ‘cuz been there, done that and not going back for more………………… I want to rescue her…………….

#212 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 1:18 pm

Copy of my letter faxed to Mr. Dean of the DNC;

Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003

Dear Mr. Dean,

I am submitting an application to be a Democratic Nominee.

First, a little about myself. I am a 51 year old white female. I am trustworthy and honest. I live by the motto, do unto others as they would do unto you. I believe in God and put my sole faith in him to guide me every day.

I am a small business owner of 6 years. I’ve lived learning that nothing is handed to you on a platter except holiday dinners. I’ve worked hard to become who and what I am today. Against all odds I’ve become a successful businesswoman.

I’m a mother. I’ve worked hard raising my beautiful daughter. I’m proud of who she is today.

I have a GREAT personality, not a fake one. People actually like me for me!

I truly love our country. I never take my freedom for granted. I sing with pride our National Anthem. (I can’t carry a tune in a bucket but I put forth the effort!) I still get goose bumps when it’s played. I cross my hand over my heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. I fly a flag.

My father served in WWII and received a Purple Heart. He fought so others could live. He loved our country as well.

I respect my elders, something of which seems to have gone by the wayside with many of the younger generation.

I look for our country to achieve the most it can under a great leader. Great leaders are made, they are born!

I’m a born leader in everything I do. I stand up for what is right. I reject all that is wrong.

Today, I reject the “selection” of Obama as our countries next leader. He was not born to serve. I am. Please consider my offer to serve our great country!

Waiting to hear back from you,

***** *****
*********, Ohio
P.U.M.A. PAC Member

#213 diva2 on 06.30.08 at 1:18 pm

#29 John and others. I am always a bit leary when signing the petitions if I don’t know who controls them. I know we set this up but my question is this? Should I put all my “real” info. or my initials and one of my “alter emails” (you know like my alter-ego. I will go with everyone’s expert comments.

Great Job Murphy. Wonder if MO was looking for something up his nose??

#214 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 1:19 pm

Thanks for adding the picture under BHO! It’s exaclty how I fee right now.

#215 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 1:20 pm

Any new ideas if we should flood the 360 blog tonight or just let it go.

#216 murphy on 06.30.08 at 1:22 pm

Bythelake #212 — nice letter! perfectly executed!

#217 LisaNC on 06.30.08 at 1:23 pm

writer4starz:

I know that our stories are not isolated. But like you,
I determined after that experience that the man is really really bad news. I believe that he has divided the country and that we are experiencing similiarities to the civil war with how this man has divided families.

On a brighter note. I have some really fantastic uplifting picture’s I took of Hillary when she campaigned across the state of NC. Does anyone have any ideas how I can share them with other Puma’s. I play a slide show on my myspace several times a day as its so uplifting. But my myspace is private because of family and children photos.
Thanks.
Lisa

#218 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 1:23 pm

#216…thanks, all done between customers! :>)

#219 LisaNC on 06.30.08 at 1:26 pm

bythe lake.
Wonderful letter to Mr. Dean.
I appreciate your efforts.

Lisa

#220 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 1:30 pm

thanks lisa!

#221 grlpatriot on 06.30.08 at 1:30 pm

Hey PUMAs, Steve Corbett on PA’s WILK talk radio wants PUMAs to call in today, expecially PA PUMAs.

http://wilknetwork.com/Rendell-Chases-His-Tail/2509172

Any PUMAs from PA here? Corbett’s show is on from 3-7PM EST.

#222 BrooklynNY on 06.30.08 at 1:31 pm

Murphy,

The preamble to this thread is phenomenal! Excellent job! I also think you should submit it as an op-ed piece! How ’bout the NewYork Times? Washington Post? Maybe in time for the Sunday papers? :) It’s just too good to let languish for only us PUMAs to appreciate. It’s short, sweet and to the point. What more could we ask?!!! Perfect job!

#223 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 1:35 pm

Oh for god’s sake – just got an email saying Sibelius – gov of Kansas is spouting more stupidity – if anyone says *61 is unqualified or too liberal – they’re using racial code words – my god, has this fricking country gone nuts or what? Help, help, help – the pod people are slowly gaining – did anyone read 1984? – whatever happened to free speech?

#224 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 1:37 pm

Has anybody voted yet on this weeks AOL straw Poll.

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/straw-poll

As of today:

134,577 it was McCain 63% (84,112) Obama 37% (50,465)

#225 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 1:39 pm

Where’s Superman when you need him – didn’t he stand for truth, justice & the American way – hell, where’s Wonder Woman………………??

#226 deadgirlsrise on 06.30.08 at 1:41 pm

#211 Susie1945

Barack Obama and his hateful racist church have indeed set race relations in the country back at least 40 years! This is a travesty. History books will look back on this year as the year that Martin Luther King Jr’s legacy died.

What next? Race Riots on November 5th when BHO loses?

#227 LisaNC on 06.30.08 at 1:42 pm

Murphy I agree with BrooklyNY,

We need to get this piece in print. I would love to see Lou Dobbs read it outloud to his colleagues. Its really wonder.

Lisa

#228 TajM on 06.30.08 at 1:47 pm

As a PA resident, I apologize to my fellow PUMAs for the actions of my Governor. It is a sad day when Ed Rendell goes from reluctantly drinking the Kool-Aid to actively supporting the denigration of us American voters who refuse to support the Empty Suit Campaign.

My girlfriend – an Obamabot, if you can believe it – asked me how I can support McCain given Obama’s similarity with Hillary on the issues. ISSUES? I did vote for the issues – that’s why I supported Hillary! But forget it if Obama NOW wants me to look to the issues.

I am willing to overlook John McCain’s record, because at least he has one. I cannot, sadly, say the same for Obama.

#229 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 1:47 pm

Another gal friend of mine who lives in Florida sent me email saying she’s coming back for a visit in July & is trying to get Delta to let her have ticket for half price since she is only 1/2 person :) – is not having much luck………………..

#230 Kiki17 on 06.30.08 at 1:49 pm

Ed Rednell really meant this

Hoping
Obama
Unites
No
Democracts

#231 BarbNOBO on 06.30.08 at 1:50 pm

#221 grlpatriot….Thanks for the info…I’m from PA and will be calling him after I get home from work!! Rendell is just playing political games. I for one am very disappointed in him!! I’ll be ready for them tonight!!
Thanks Murphy for the great article!! I agree with the others it needs to get some attention in the press!

#232 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 1:51 pm

BHO updated his smear web site if anybody is interested in it. Interesting that they are still referring to the whitie tape. If you want a story to go away the why do they keep bringing it up.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/

#233 TajM on 06.30.08 at 1:51 pm

To Ed Rendell, our state college’s mascot is a nittany lion! Very close to a puma if you ask me…

#234 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 1:51 pm

#229……..susie, now that is priceless!

#235 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 1:52 pm

#132 Cosmeta
What??
I wish you would reconsider. I have read the discourse between you and the other person. I haven’t seen a majority of people here dissing you.
I hope you can stay and just not respond to that stuff.
We need to stay together.

#236 BarbNOBO on 06.30.08 at 1:53 pm

The more talk of unity with all we know about BO the more people are getting disgusted and are not having any part of it!!! The dems are good at shooting themselves in he foot!! GO PUMAS!!

#237 queen81 on 06.30.08 at 1:54 pm

TajM

I’ve had people ask me the same question about supporting McCain, they throw Roe v Wade in my face and the fact that I’m a lesbian as reasons not to support him. To them I say:

1. If you really believe Roe v. Wade is going to be overturned then you obviously have not read the decision and do not understand that it has little to do with abortion. Roe v. Wade is not going anywhere.

2. Though I would not call McCain a friend of the gays, he is certainly not an enemy to us. He opposed the federal amendment to ban gay marriage.

3. We are currently in a time of war and we need someone in office who understands the military and has a strategy that puts the fewest of our barve soldiers at risk. Given the fact that McCain has a child fighting in the middle east, I feel very confident giving him this responsibility.

4. The beauty of this country is that we get to vote and at the end of the day, I feel to vote for BO would put our country at risk and my conscience could not handle that.

#238 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 1:54 pm

Does anybody really think there is the whitie tape? Each passing day I don’t think so, but I would not be suprised that Michaelle said something about race that may come back to hurt her.

#239 DaddysDarlin on 06.30.08 at 1:56 pm

ABOUT THE SPRAY-PAINTED CARS:

I think we should take a picture of some of us baby-boomers, gray hair, wrinkles and all, with spray cans in our hands and ask the question–ARE THESE THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO YOU ARE ACUSING OF SPRAY PAINTING CARS?

I think it would be hilarious!

One Love

#240 DaddysDarlin on 06.30.08 at 1:59 pm

# 238 vadaryl,
I do believe there is a whitey tape, they were selling those particular cd’s on the church website, I am sure someone has a copy. I just wish they would release it before the Denver convention.

#241 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 1:59 pm

239….daddysdarlin (eeks, only my hairdresser knows for sure what color my hair really is) today I’m red, tomorrow, who knows, but no gray hehehe!

#242 DaddysDarlin on 06.30.08 at 2:01 pm

I am proud to wear my old Puma gray!!! At least until I get enough money to go to the hairdresser!! ha ha

#243 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 2:04 pm

239 & 241 – not sure if even my hairdresser knows for sure what color my hair is – been changing it since just out of high school (parents had control & wouldn’t let me cng during hs) – mine is currently red (my mom was a redhead) too but pretty tame – when I went to get color changed – I wanted bright red but stylist talked me out of it – guess it’s true – us babyboomers don’t want to admit getting old – my sister-in-law got her nose pierced about a year ago – very discreet but I couldn’t do it – ears were enough – little year old granddaughter keeps scratching at it – wants the bling (its a little diamond chip) – ;)

#244 antifish on 06.30.08 at 2:06 pm

A talking point for those of you who are being harassed for not supporting Obama.

Obama was selected as the nominee, not by a fair election, but by collusion between the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee, which violated its own rules, and party elites who strong-armed the superdelegates. This makes him an illegitimate nominee. To support him is to support the actions that got him where he is. Those actions are undemocratic and indefensible.

#245 bellecat on 06.30.08 at 2:07 pm

#140 droc:

You mentioned: massive vote fraud in North Carolina and Indiana, do you have any links to reports about vote fraud?
do you know if any goverment entity or pac group are pressing for an investigation? articles, whatever…

Let me know, my address is: gartre@juno.com

That’s another very critical issue for us PUMAs.
“Vote Fraud”

#246 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 2:07 pm

Anyone with a brain would see the vandalism in FL was not done by us. Leave a business card??
I say ignore it.

#247 SparkForHill on 06.30.08 at 2:08 pm

On June 12: 7113
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/supporthillary/signatures.html

The count on June 12: 11980
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/seatourdelegates/signatures.html

#248 michelle47 on 06.30.08 at 2:09 pm

Cosmeta, I read these posts all day, I rarely post myself, I see you are here always. I am not sure what happened with you and another, but from someone who reads here often I look forward to everyones insight, please reconsider and stay on, we all need to fight this together, you are a true Hillary supporter and god knows we need all we can get. Best of luck to you always, and I do hope I can look forward to seeing your posts here again.

#249 Missy on 06.30.08 at 2:10 pm

Murphy, you are the greatest, and today’s post is the best yet. Can PUMA publish it? Can we cut and paste and send to our local papers? Please say yes!

#250 bellecat on 06.30.08 at 2:10 pm

Marylandpuma:

When will be the one month birthday?

I know that I joined PUMA PAC on the 5th of June and I’m having margaritas from the eve of the 4th on…hic!

#251 gordana on 06.30.08 at 2:12 pm

Good Day Puma’s -

I don’t write often, but do try to keep up as much as I can. Thanks to all of you, especially Murphy, for great work and dedication.

As of yesterday and today, I have signed two petitions and sent the following to Sentator Biden:
******
Dear Senator Biden -

In the past week I have received 6 solicitations from members of the unDemocratic Party asking for contributions for the SELECTED unDemocratic Nominee. I had written you a few weeks before you declared your support for BO, explaining my enormous respect for YOU for remaining undeclared, and, my great disappointment in the DNC, Howard Dean, Pelosi and Brazile for throwing Hillary Clinton under the bus.

If you were up for reelection, even though I am not from you home state, and you sent me this request, I would send whatever contribution I am able to scrounge up.

I would like to tell you how very disappointed I am in receiving this request FROM YOU, but we both know the reason for your endorsement. We are cut from the same cloth and bleed the same red blood! In return, my hope and prayer is that there will be an open ballot in Denver and that you and other like-minded super delegates will return your support to Senator Clinton, where it rightfully belongs. Then, I will be most happy to contribute to my candidate of choice and not to one that has been selected for me.

Keep up the good work and please, please, help us to get our party and country back NOW!

God Bless –

Respectfully,

Greta D.
PUMA Democrat
Connecticut
*******

I will be making my contribution to PUMA by week’s end.

GROWL POWER!

#252 KYkitten on 06.30.08 at 2:12 pm

did you guys see this recent cover ( sorry if it was already posted)? i saw garychapelhill posted it on another site — i try to keep my bp low and not read huffington–

I just feel like this picture is It’s his world, and we’re all just living in it”– and like he’s laughing as he looks down–

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080625/obama-music/images/4561cfd3-9b6e-4f0d-94db-dad22c1ec0a9.jpg

#253 Steve_in_KC on 06.30.08 at 2:13 pm

My first post here:
I’ve been enjoying lurking and reading these pages for the last week or two, but I can’t manage the time to ever finish one thread! So many posts, so little time!

I’m a 57 year old lifetime Independent/Democrat who decided months ago that I couldn’t force myself to vote for Obummer. I started out supporting Edwards, but switched to Hillary after New Hampshire and listening to her debate. I agree with what I read here about the travesty of this primary election season. I’ve heard from folks who went to caucus and found that the Obama people were loud, aggressive, and basically strong-armed undecideds into joining their caucus. So that’s how he won so many caucus votes!

I’ve voted at the AOL straw poll and at the Care2 petition site today. I also posted at CBS http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/06/30/politics/horserace/entry4218605.shtml?mpid=1732 today.

Now I better get back to work, but rest assured, there are many of us middle class, middle aged men who are with you in spirit, and I take resentment when I hear that all Hillary supporters are women! Not that there’s anything wrong with that! ;)

#254 KYkitten on 06.30.08 at 2:15 pm

Murphy love love today’s post!

@cosmeta pls don’t leave- I don’t post much either and mainly read, since you guys say it all :) – I commented on your hypnosis post earlier downstairs — and I really hope you’ll reconsider and keep posting your insight.

#255 goDGS on 06.30.08 at 2:16 pm

Cosmeta — I agree that you are a valuable asset to our community — please stay!!

Is there any thought of have PUMA car stickers??

I want to put on next to my Hillary sticker.

#256 antifish on 06.30.08 at 2:17 pm

What did I miss? What’s wrong with Cosmeta?

#257 mini vee on 06.30.08 at 2:17 pm

KYKitten…seriously, I can’t stand to look at any photo of him for more than seconds. I thought G. Bush is the only one that could do that to me.

#258 diva2 on 06.30.08 at 2:17 pm

#132 Cosmeta. Tried to find out what happened between you and another PUMA. It is none of my business and you can tell me so if you want.

We are all here to offer something. We all also know how easily the written word can be interpreted. We don’t want anyone to leave (except trolls). I have seen both of your contributions and feel you bring alot to PUMAS. Re: the question about contributions…MY feeling is that EVERYONE contributes something, they can help out financially, some with research, some with humor to keep us sane, some with lnks to important info., some by writing letters, handing out flyers, etc..

THAT is what we are all about. If either of you choose to leave, it will be a great loss to PUMAS. I assume we are all adults and we all slip up occasionally. Each of us has different perspectives which is exactly why we are here. I f we all thought the same way we would be bots and not PUMAS.

Please try to work this out and I hope that no one loses on this and that we all gain.

Peace…

diva2

#259 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 2:17 pm

#250 Bellecat – I joined same day – am gonna follow them little black cats from Friday nite & celebrate w/magarita or two…………………….Happy Birthday to PUMA (and us)………………….

#260 scathcart on 06.30.08 at 2:25 pm

Murphy, What a great intro today. I’m speechless. Sent my E-mail and snail letter to Dean with qualifications to be the next POTUS. Printed more flyers, business cards and post cards. I was so excited I finally received my PUMA stamps. Signed the petition on aol this am. I will be putting more flyers on cars this week. E-mailed PUMA flyers to several of my out of town friends. I will be sending my donation to PUMA in 2 weeks. I haven’t received my PUMA t-shirt yet. I think I also saw where there will be a new design? I will probably order another for my sister in Ohio. She needs more convincing to get with it and join PUMA. She is a hillary supporter but will never vote for HBO. I also want to say to Marylandpuma what a great job you have been doing on the daily growl. I look forward to it everyday. Well off to other sites will be back later. What a great family PUMA is.

#261 pooh496 on 06.30.08 at 2:28 pm

#29 John, I signed that petition.

#132 Cosmeta, I sure wish you would reconsider. I rather enjoy your comments. We all have different feelings and characteristics, otherwise we would be just like Obamabots. Please stay!

My letter to Dean with my resume is done and ready to send. I also mentioned that I knew we had only 50 states. Lol!

I also sent a get well soon card to the DNC instead of pennies. I added some funny money with it.

I also sent a donation to hcsfjm for their Chicago ad. Have a great day everyone!

#262 pooh496 on 06.30.08 at 2:29 pm

Did the AOL ballot also.

#263 MamaPuma on 06.30.08 at 2:29 pm

GROOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWL

The Daily Growl is posted – thanks Marylandpuma

Check the Action Center for flyers and to catch
up on Action Items in previous Growls.

Stay focused – we are making such wonderful progress!

Persistence!!! Tell 5 people today to go to blog.pumapac.org

#264 murphy on 06.30.08 at 2:30 pm

Welcome Steve in KC! Couldn;t agree more!

scathcart — wow! you are ACTIVE.

has everyone received their Daily Growl today from marylandpuma? It is a HOOT! Thanks to our own, hilarious Antifish for the idea.

Be sure to email marylandpuma@gmail.com and check out our ACTION CENTER for flyers, dropcards, and previous Daily Actions you might have missed.

Link: http://pumapacusa.org/

Remember — always come back here and brag about what you’ve accomplished. We want to hear ALL the details!

#265 jbjd on 06.30.08 at 2:32 pm

Murphy, can you create a list of web sites linking to topical articles on Senator Obama, which list we can annotate? Many such links are already included in comments to this blog, for example, there’s the CNS (Cybercast News Service) story that Senator Obama pays his female staffers substantially less than he pays his male staffers; http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200806/POL20080630a.html
and the Boston Globe story describing Senator Obama’s “grim” record on corruption in public housing in Chicago
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/

With adequate information at our fingertips, each of us PUMAs can become an ‘expert’ on everything Obama, and speak intelligently and appropriately to the proposition that we refuse to endorse Mr. Obama’s candidacy for President of the United States.

#266 john on 06.30.08 at 2:33 pm

Steve Corbett Wilks Radio Will Give All PUMA’s and PUMA Groups A Chance To Address Ed Rendell’s H.O.U.N.D call in folks lets be HEARD
3 P.M. est http://wilknetwork.com/pages/322229.php

#267 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 2:35 pm

Murphy – just saw on Heidi Li’s blog that the Denver Group got some headlines – can we use any of their sources (like Marc who writes TomInPaine) to get {your} great thread preambles some MSM time – I would love to send to newspapers & see if they would print (with your permission, of course). What say you??

#268 murphy on 06.30.08 at 2:36 pm

thanks John #266 — if you are in PA, and I know there are LOTS of you out there.

click the link, listen to Steve — he has a GREAT show, and call in.

And dont forget to come back and brag!!
3 P.M. est http://wilknetwork.com/pages/322229.php
Or better yet — live blog it if you can!

#269 murphy on 06.30.08 at 2:37 pm

jbjd#265

check out Nobama Network
http://www.nobamanetwork.com/

#270 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 2:39 pm

#240 I can’t believe that with all the media outlets, bloggers, YouTube, etc. out there that if this tape really exists no one has produced it by now. There has to be some hot shot reporter out there that wants to land this thing. The more it lingers the more I feel it just does not exist.

#271 murphy on 06.30.08 at 2:41 pm

susie1945

Please do! Thank you — send anything and everything far and wide.

If anyone happens to have Wolf Blitzer or Greta in their contacts list, be sure to let them know about Puma PAC!

#272 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 2:43 pm

There is so much more about Obama that is sitting out there I just can’t believe it’s not being reported by now. I can’t believe it’s all going to come out in October.

#273 DaddysDarlin on 06.30.08 at 2:44 pm

# 270
Maybe someone in the republican party has it, they wouldn’t want to release it until after Denver, to insure that Hillary does not get the nod. They know full well that McCain cant beat Hillary, but he can certainly beat BO. Therefore, the timing has to be right.
Just my 2 cents

#274 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 2:44 pm

Murphy, try posting your story on 360 tonight.

#275 hillaryistheone on 06.30.08 at 2:45 pm

#253 Steve_in_KC, Thank You and welcome aboard. So thrilled to hear that there are many men out there that feel the same way.

#276 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 2:45 pm

I’m gonna send this to Greta – I sent her an email before her show one night last week when Pelosi was going to be on & she replied back to me that she was getting hundreds of emails so what the heck – see what happens – also gotta watch FOX to see if the “bad boys” got the email with the link to the hireheels video…….will try blitzer & cooper………..let you know

#277 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 2:46 pm

#270 If the Repubs have it I can understand they want to wait till October it makes a lot of sense but why can’t one of us find it.

#278 murphy on 06.30.08 at 2:48 pm

susie 1945 — great! keep us posted.
email me anytime. I do respond (usually right away even!)

#279 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 2:48 pm

How about we all try to post it on 360 tonight. If they get flooded they may have to address it. Just a thought!

#280 anonymous on 06.30.08 at 2:49 pm

#212 Headclunker and PUMAs

Hi guys,

I wanted to clarify something about the “state meetings”.

The meetings are held in different states for people to get together and talk about what they will do in Denver.

I didn’t want to post all of the details here.

PLEASE GO TO http://www.18millionvoices.blogspot.com/

WE NEED AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE TO ORGANIZE MORE MEETINGS AND ATTEND.

Thank you for your help,
All the best,
anonymous

#281 thatswhattimeitis on 06.30.08 at 2:49 pm

OHIO PUMA’s!!

BHO is going to be in Zanesville next Tuesday.

Is anyone going to be there??

#282 anonymous on 06.30.08 at 2:53 pm

#250 bellecat

I think our birthday is on July 3rd. :)

#283 diva2 on 06.30.08 at 2:54 pm

Alohapuma, k in nw, mayor darn I know there are more of us, just can’t remember…

To all Portland area pacific northwesters, is anyone going to the blues festival at the waterfront this weekend? If so, thought we could meet each other briefly if we are there around the same time? We will probably go just one day, haven’t firmed it up with hubby yet.

diva2

#284 KYkitten on 06.30.08 at 2:54 pm

@257 mini vee– I see your pt—sorry if i caused any afternoon nausea w/ the pic :-#

#285 john on 06.30.08 at 2:55 pm

If You in PA and want to call in to Steve Corbett show here’s the PA number 1 800 437 0098, If your outside PA and want to call in 570 883 0098

#286 writer4starz on 06.30.08 at 2:55 pm

Those brave PUMAs who go onto the pro-Obama blogs just to see what they are saying about us are to be commended. I don’t have the stomach (or the nerve), ever since I saw one person write:

“Those 18,000,000 votes that Hillary got, they belong to Barack now.”

I tell you, I thought I would die and/or upchuck right then and there. Excuse me? My vote belongs to me and me alone.

Brave souls, please continue to spy for us and let us know what we are up against. I know it isn’t pretty. I’ve seen it. God bless you.

#287 diva2 on 06.30.08 at 2:58 pm

Saw earlier talk about voter fraud. I know Fox news has 100′s of examples, let’s start pressing them to find out what they are going to do with the info. and to release it publicly. Wonder what the hold-up is unless they are trying to verify everything?

Someone mentioned some examples they saw in their state. Try submitting that to: voterfraud@foxnews.com and see if they are still taking in that info.

diva2

#288 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 3:01 pm

vadaryl rumor has it that rudy has the videao and was going to use for his campaign. the trinity site was scrubbed in mar now it is said it will be released after the denver convention because repubs no longer want Hillary to be the candidate. Wonder why???

#289 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 3:04 pm

Murphy have you considered sending your “OP-ED” above to Norma Flores? People seem to have forgotten she is a great supporter. Maybe she has contacts in Hispanic papers that can print it or even higher up MSN contacts. (or knows someone who does)

#290 antifish on 06.30.08 at 3:07 pm

Obama: “I will never question others’ patriotism”

(I’ll just let Gen. Wesley Clark do it for me. That’s how I roll. I let my surrogates trash others and act like I’m offended by it. It’s a new kind of politics.)

Jun 30 12:44 PM US/Eastern
By JENNIFER LOVEN

Obama: ‘I Will Never Question the Patriotism of Others’

INDEPENDENCE, Mo. (AP) – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Monday he will never question others’ patriotism during the race and blames his own “carelessness” for some criticism of him so far.
Obama sought to reassure voters about his commitment to the country, choosing the aptly named town of Independence as his backdrop.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91KGSJO0&show_article=1

#291 Lin4Hill on 06.30.08 at 3:07 pm

Firechief -
As for the SWAT-Hackers that are undermining the internet sites–I only know that Google and possibly AOL have blocked some sites that are listed under JustSayNoDeal because of reports of spam. I am the last person in the world to ask about the wizardry of computer-land, but we know BO has hired these whiz kids to monitor, confuse, and disrupt whenever possible, and they have probably filled the cyberspace with reports of spam, therefore triggering a response from Google, etc. They are trying every trick to shut us off.

Susie1245 – Your story of your granddaughter’s harrassment fills me with such anger. What kind of mentality is out there that some in the African American community believe and hope that REVENGE is coming? This is beyond divisive. I had heard that talk-radio in some AA communities was encouraging this attitude. This will destroy America.

Everyone – You know Wesley Clark has recently slammed BO’s other opponent – McCain –on “questionable” qualifications for leading this country related to his time in Vietnam and in Congress.
Here’s a great article of rebuttal:

http://donedems.com/2008/06/30/my-fallen-idol-clarks-out-of-character-attack-on-mccains-service-proof-dem-party-has-lost-its-soul/

#292 texassherry on 06.30.08 at 3:07 pm

Murphy- You have not responded to my last 5 emails. I hope that it is because you are busy and I haven’t said anything that offends you.

#293 murphy on 06.30.08 at 3:09 pm

Yes — texas sherry it is because I am busy.

It is almost impossible to offend me!

#294 thatswhattimeitis on 06.30.08 at 3:09 pm

Well, I just called the Mayor’s office of Zanesville, Ohio and they won’t give out the address of where B.H.O. is going to be tomorrow!

Why am I not surprised?

#295 murphy on 06.30.08 at 3:11 pm

Lin4Hill, one of the Pumapac blog sites I set up — blogspot.pumapac.org was attacked, frozen, and deleted. There was NOTHING I could do to stop it.

That was 4 days ago — I sent in a complaint to Google/Blogspot, but havent heard back yet.

These folks are out of control.

#296 diva2 on 06.30.08 at 3:11 pm

#286 writer4starz All of this stuff is great. What a waste of energy trying to make us look bad. If any of you can harness that stuff, might be helpful in the future in ads, etc.

Something like: “These are the people voting for noname — is that who YOU, your family, friends and neighbors are? Voting for him is voting for these people.
Do they sound democratic to YOU?” For future stuff down the road, who knows?

One final thing I have wanted to mention as a sidenote. Remember, in November college students are going to be back in school and pre-occupied with “other” things and finding time to vote isn’t one of their high priorites. History has repeatedly shown that they have a short attention span and although they might be registered, they do not necessarily come out to vote.

HOWEVER, I think college PUMAS are probably far more intelligent than bots and will vote because they are well-informed and understand the necessity and urgency to vote.

By the way, the dumber the comments made like people like Clark and the idiot saying McCain is heavier than what he was after being released as a POW, are really just helping McCain because alot of vets are going to be very upset about the stupidity of noname’s pundits.

diva2

#297 texassherry on 06.30.08 at 3:13 pm

Murphy-thanks or responding. I don’t like to posts all of my thoughts and responses to emails because I don’t want to taken wrong and offend anyone like some others that I have seen on here. I am a good puma and don’t want anyone to think that I am not. It saddens me that we have lost a few good pumas over that.

#298 SparkForHill on 06.30.08 at 3:15 pm

#286 writer4starz

That is what BO said, he’ll have 107×2=214 Unity (nh) votes for him. HRC makes many voters feel happy, joyful, hopeful, and uplifting. BO makes you feel worried, sad, scared, shocked about the way they fight for each vote.

You feel you want to hide from politics, and you cannot trust anybody, and you are so depressed since even early days about FL/MI, they just would not listen.

At least that time you have hope on Hilary. Now, they do not know how many are in tears whenever think about what they went through and how Hillary and her supporters are treated…

#299 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 3:15 pm

“288 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 3:01 pm vadaryl rumor has it that rudy has the videao and was going to use for his campaign. the trinity site was scrubbed in mar now it is said it will be released after the denver convention because repubs no longer want Hillary to be the candidate. Wonder why???”

I honestly believe that even if such a tape exists, and if it is released, it will not have much effect. Just like the Wright/Ayers/Rezko etc – he will just throw MO under the bus and keep on truckin”

#300 nhforhillary on 06.30.08 at 3:18 pm

#132
Cosmeta , of course you didn’t mean to offend anyone. That’s one of the problems with the internet and e-mail , comments, blogs, that people misread, or put meanings into the literal words that we write that were never intended. It happens all the time that people get easily offended or take things the wrong way when it would never happen if you were talking face to face and could respond immediately and verbally. This happens, just ignore it.

Cosmeta, you should stay. PUMAs aren’t divisive , you are one of us…purrrrrr stay and we will go forward together. Join paws in unity. We need to stay strong.
Each day is a new day, and don’t you want to be there when we achieve our goals? Be strong, stick with us!!

#301 anonymous on 06.30.08 at 3:18 pm

#295 murphy

We should be able to sue these people. They are turning our country into Russia, Cuba, and other communistic countries. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!

#302 Pookie on 06.30.08 at 3:21 pm

I signed the petition
#132 cosmeta please just brush off the comments I believe you can see by the comments you would be missed .You know I hardly have any of my posts answered I could take that as “you have nothing interesting to say” but I don’t I realize that I am contributing my “2 cents worth” and you should do like wise, we need you and appreciate you please post again

#303 anonymous on 06.30.08 at 3:21 pm

#299 middle age female

If he throws too many people under the bus, the bus will turn over.

#304 ABinNY on 06.30.08 at 3:21 pm

Hi PUMAs, Corbett is on now…Rendell VS PUMA…”It’s a Turn-Down Day”
http://wilknetwork.com/Rendell-Chases-His-Tail/2509172

#305 utahpuma on 06.30.08 at 3:22 pm

Gen Wesley Clark was supporting Hillary and now supports Noname.

Here is yet another one who made a run for president and failed. Someone was keeping a list of these wannabees like Edwards, Dean, Kerry, etc. Don’t know if you got this one already.

What’s with these guys anyway? Here’s his interview with Bob Schieffer yesterday.

http://securingamerica.com/

As for losing Pumas, I have been “dinged” a time or two also, but feel that the overall goal of our being here far outweighs any misunderstandings.

We all need each other if we are going to make this work. We have enough enemies out there without division within our group. The Noname people would love that.

For those PUMAs thinking about leaving, please reconsider. You have already contribued so much and we need you. I really love the enthusiasm, the ideas, the support, and the unending efforts of everything all of you have done. It’s just awesome!

Thanks again to you Murphy for everything you have done and will do. I’m sticking it out until we are done with this!!!!

#306 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 3:23 pm

#303 anonymous

naw he’ll just get a bigger jack

#307 SergeiRostov on 06.30.08 at 3:26 pm

I was watching a movie on the SCIFI Channel last night, the story line involved a politician who distorts a self-help book to achieve power by espousing the philosophy that the needs of the leader of the group outweigh the needs of the members of that group….

I would hate to think that was the case with Obama….

#308 Pookie on 06.30.08 at 3:26 pm

#303 Nobama has gotten rid of more baggage then the one’s under the bus I think he has it all figured out how to do it without making a scene

#309 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 3:26 pm

“Remember, it’s not over until the PUMA growls.”

I love that!

#310 InuHanyou1701 on 06.30.08 at 3:28 pm

#31 bythelake

You would have to speak to the transit authority in the city that you are wanting to advertise in with regards to the buses. They usually run the show regarding this I believe. (You’d have to check from city to city. I believe most run the bus system through a transit authority but some may run it directly through the City government I belive. =P Don’t quote me on that though)

#311 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 3:29 pm

Trish I was going to say he would just put on bigger tires :D

#312 murphy on 06.30.08 at 3:30 pm

utahpuma #305 — great to see you!

you are always here to report on excellent action items you completed!

#313 pooh496 on 06.30.08 at 3:35 pm

Will Bower was just on the Corbett show and riverdaughter will be on in about 2 minutes. Nothing from Rendell yet.

#314 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 3:37 pm

Rendell is hiding in a rabbit hoel somewhere

#315 hillfan4mccain on 06.30.08 at 3:37 pm

Corbet now talking about PUMA

Bashing Rendel

Riverdaughter talking now

google (sorry) wilk

#316 hillfan4mccain on 06.30.08 at 3:38 pm

http://den-a.plr.liquidcompass.cc/etm_plr/audio_player.php?id=WILK&playerType=silverlight

WILK listen now

#317 queen81 on 06.30.08 at 3:38 pm

Well I must say that my little puma eyes are exausted! Just came from a BO blog and I feel as though they were all about 17. Nevermind the fact that they have no spelling or grammer skills. They kept going on about state deadlines to register to vote and cut offs to register if you will turn 18 just before the election. Are they really going to rely on young people and first time voters to win this thing? And they were fighting with each other and even called BO a wimp for throwing Clark under the bus. Very interesting indeed. I’m so glad to be back in the world of adults!

#318 hillfan4mccain on 06.30.08 at 3:39 pm

http://wilknetwork.com/Rendell-Chases-His-Tail/2509172

Sorry if you all have seen these posts, just walked in. Havent check posts yet

#319 nativegirl on 06.30.08 at 3:41 pm

You can contact google at

Google Inc.
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043
Phone: +1 650-253-0000
Fax: +1 650-253-0001

maybe calls need to be flooded into google regarding the issues with trying to shut down No Obama sites.

#320 InuHanyou1701 on 06.30.08 at 3:41 pm

#37 murphy

Just signed the petition! I usually don’t sign petitions unless Murphy tells me it’s ok to! Here was my comment.

Throughout my entire life I have always respected Democracy and the foundation of the United States. This primary season my rights and my vote have been violated and I won’t forget the underhanded tactics used by the media, the DNC, or Barack Hussein Obama to “secure” the election for the one they deemed suitable. I also can’t believe that those in power have been allowed to get away with this! I will not stand for the blatant destruction of Democracy that I have seen this year. I no longer support the Democrats, unless they get their heads out of their (Insert bad word here) and see the light of day, and will be voting for McCain in November. Congratulations to the DNC. You’ve done a splendid job of ensuring that the Democrats will lose an election, the year that it was just a given that the Democrats would regain the White House!

#321 notfollowingthepiedpiper on 06.30.08 at 3:47 pm

Tried to post this earlier but this public computer I’m using is not working well so I’ll try again (sorry if it’s a duplicate).

Been having lots of fun lately getting the word out this way… when we’re waiting in a Dr’s waiting room, crowded restataunt, grocery line etc, I use that time to catch my husband up on election news (from a PUMA perspective, of course). It’s fun to see people around us drop their conversations and try to inconspicously eavesdrop. Sometimes they even chime in which draws more attention to the conversation. Many people who don’t have internet (yes there are still some out there) are not aware there’s a huge undercurrent of revolt going on. They have just resigned themselves to believing the Obomanation is ineviteble. We have to do more to reach this group so they will know how important is is for them to still get out and vote. They are not alone.

#322 Dreyfus3 NJ on 06.30.08 at 3:48 pm

Letter to Howard Dean and my qualifications are in the mail.

#323 NYModerate on 06.30.08 at 3:48 pm

I am willing to do everything that it takes to notify my local area to this puma movement. A lot of people here are frankly pissed off because of how the DNC handled the election. My own grandmother a longtime democrat is ticked off.

She told me she probably won’t be voting this year for the first time in many years. I will probably vote for a third party or write in Hillary Clinton if that’s allowed since my state obviously isn’t a swing state.

#324 murphy on 06.30.08 at 3:51 pm

Inhanyou #320 excellent comment, precise concise and brief! nice job!

#325 murphy on 06.30.08 at 3:52 pm

Welcome NYModerate! It’s great to see so many new Pumas in comments.
Make yourself at home — check out the links and other pages on our website, and jump in!

#326 nativegirl on 06.30.08 at 3:53 pm

If you have not seen this, it is worth the view. Believe it or not a CNN report!!
http://www.justsaynodeal.com/action.html

#327 scathcart on 06.30.08 at 3:57 pm

There is a very interesting web on No Quarters. It is really long post. http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/. Regarding:Hawaii legal basis test it for fraud obama birth certificate. This is well worth your time to read if so interested.

#328 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 3:59 pm

Contacting Google

http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/006900.html

#329 DaddysDarlin on 06.30.08 at 3:59 pm

PLEASE LISTEN TO THE RADIO SHOW ITS ON NOW, PUMA IS ON!!!

#330 DaddysDarlin on 06.30.08 at 4:00 pm

Darn its over

#331 pa dem on 06.30.08 at 4:01 pm

TajM: A State College PUMA??? I was beginning to think my town was overrun by Obama supporters. If you are in State College/Centre County, feel free to email me: hkiara@aol.com so that we can plot strategy :-)

Trying to get on the wilknetwork, but the website is down. Anyone have the number?

#332 hillaryistheone on 06.30.08 at 4:02 pm

I just posted this on CNN’s blog about Obama’s patriotism.

Hey listen sascto joe…we are not Republicans posting as Clinton supporters. We are DEMOCRATS that will NOT be voting for the SELECTED pick of the DNC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Millions of us will be voting for McCain, writing in Hillary or voting for a third party candidate!!!!!!!!!

Get over your lies about who we are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama has about as much patriotism for the US as Osama does!!!!!!!!!

#333 el puma on 06.30.08 at 4:14 pm

Pumas and Hounddogs Unite!
I knew from early on in the Primaries that the media was in on the “high-tech rape” using sexism on Hillary and a “high-tech mugging” playing the race card on Bill.It seems they are determined to crown Obama in “09″.McCain is going to have to use some powerful “kung-fu” on the media to get equal and fair treatment.He is in for the fight of his life.The Obama people are street fighters and they will play dirty to win.Unless McCain takes off the gloves and fights back it looks like it will be that lying phony Obama who will be carried on the shoulders of the media to the white house….

#334 SparkForHill on 06.30.08 at 4:19 pm

BO – Why he always want change. Change for what? I wish him self knows. In the debates his issues were not much differenet than others. His change may want to get rid of all current governments, both Republian and Democrat? He has not done much as Senator, but born to be a President?

#335 ABinNY on 06.30.08 at 4:21 pm

terry on cnn now

#336 prplvette85 on 06.30.08 at 4:23 pm

Wow, I don’t know what just happened, but I could not get on our site. It took me to google, then an anti Puma site that is from *61. WTF? I sent a email to Murphy. I had to get here by getting a link on rd. I have never had a problem before…? I am at work so don’t have time to figure out what happened or why. has anyone else had this problem today? I can’t read posts so sorry if this has been reported already. Now I don’t have time to do my post lol….gotta go

#337 antifish on 06.30.08 at 4:24 pm

Oh, Yuck!!!

Obama speaks with Bill Clinton

From the Obama press office:

Senator Obama had a terrific conversation with President Clinton and is honored to have his support in this campaign. He has always believed that Bill Clinton is one of this nation’s great leaders and most brilliant minds, and looks forward to seeing him on the campaign trail and receiving his counsel in the months to come.

Bill Clinton spokesman Matt McKenna also puts out a statement:

President Clinton had a very good conversation with Senator Obama today. He renewed his offer to do whatever he can to ensure Senator Obama is our next President.

President Clinton continues to be impressed by Senator Obama and the campaign he has run, and looks forward to campaigning for and with him in the months to come. The President believes that Senator Obama has been a great inspiration for millions of people around the country, and he knows that he will bring the change America needs as our next President.

Clinton is bound, of course, to support Obama; to the extent that his support remains news, it probably benefits the Democrats.

By Ben Smith 03:34 PM

#338 DaddysDarlin on 06.30.08 at 4:27 pm

# 327 scathcart Very interesting article, thanks for the post! Everyone should read this:

Each state of the United States has an obligation to remove Obama from its ballot. This is an obligation under the U.S. Constitution on each state.

Moreover, Obama is not entitled to his delegates at the Democratic National Convention because he is using a b.c. on his web page that the state of Hawaii says lacks the seal and signature. Delegates pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and most have sworn allegiance to the U.S. Constitution. They have an obligation to deny Obama the nomination while he is using a b.c. determined by the state of Hawaii to lack the seal and signature on his web page.

This is so important, Hawaii has stated that BO’s birth cert. is missing the seal and the signatures, therefore it has to investigate it for possible fraud.

After what BO did to his competition for the senate, Karma has come calling!

One Love

#339 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 4:29 pm

************GROWL UPDATE***************

The nation hears us HOWL – I just signed up 25 new Growl recipients.

Excellent Job PUMAs.

MarylandPUMA

********************************************

#340 SparkForHill on 06.30.08 at 4:29 pm

But Americans are through a Dice on him…

#341 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 4:31 pm

I’m playing the talk show in my store! Wheeeeeeeeee

Rendell, call under a rock! We’re your neighbors and your worst nightmare……Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrowl

#342 DaddysDarlin on 06.30.08 at 4:31 pm

How do we hear the show, where do I go?

One Love

#343 pa dem on 06.30.08 at 4:31 pm

Corbett says he’s going to take calls until 5 pm….I’m currently on hold.

#344 Fred on 06.30.08 at 4:32 pm

FREE GIFT WITH FLYER !!!

To all the folks that working the ground… you know handing out flyers etc…. I was thinking – how about planting ourself somewhere and offer a free gift with your flyer… People will stop for anything free… So you have to make sure they are not OBummer folks… they only get the flyer…

If anyone wants to do this… I can get into action quickly and ship out some nice gift items (few boxes) that you can give out with your flyers… Guaranteed you will get a bigger crowd…

I don’t know who each one of you are but I want these to go to the right hands so please post a short blog to let me know you’re interested to get these items. Perhaps a regular blogger who has been handing out flyers can experiment and see if he/she gets better results.

#345 sierracat on 06.30.08 at 4:32 pm

Howdy PUMAs. Another talking point, in case it hasn’t been mentioned – BO pays his women Senate staffers less then his men! see: http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/06/equal-pay-for-women-barack-obama-says.html

Please let NARAL know how how dumb their endorsement looks now. Pass this around.

#346 mccaindemo on 06.30.08 at 4:34 pm

Hi all! PLEASE give some feedbk regarding the flowers to Hillary…any response or reaction?? I check in everyday and haven’t seen anything about it. Obama is the worlds worst person..sending his minions (General Wesley Clark)out to slander a former POW! I just could not believe that a General would stoop so low..what is happening to our decency? I lay all of this mean devisiveness at BHOs feet with much help from Axelrod (a Exolon executive that bundled tons of $$$ for the ‘empty’ one)…where is the UNBIASED PRESS???I know that is a rhetorical question but if enough of us keep the pressure on maybe some SHARP,SMART reporter will may attention and be the new WoodWard/Bernstein (who,by the way, is in the tank for guess who…)Sorry for the rant..grrrrr…anyway would love to know results of flowers. PUMA smile!!!

#347 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 4:36 pm

We need to answer *61s speech on patriotism today in Independence.

The media just paraphrased him as saying patriotism is “country first and not being a lapdog to the government”

Start throwing out ideas for the Growl tomorrow – PUMAs answer to this hypocrite.

#348 chicagoroadrunner on 06.30.08 at 4:38 pm

Happy Monday Everyone!

I went to Lobby Delegates.com for info on super delegates uncommitted and or committed to HRC.

Then, I pulled up the excel spread sheet on the PUMA action center. I see some conflicting info between two sources.

Can anyone tell me which is the most up to date source? And, could someone please tell me what the GE column stands for on the PUMA spreadsheet?

For example, on Lobby Delegates.com, Sherrod Brown (OH) is listed as uncommitted. On the Puma spreadsheet, Obama is listed in the GE column for Sherrod Brown. Does this mean Sherrod Brown has endorsed/committed to Obama?

(I want to start sending love notes to uncommitted delegates in the traditional swing states — although according to Nobama, this could be a big waste of my time. I do believe he has said he can win the election without winning quite a few of those swing states. Mmm.)

Thank you to anyone directing me to where the most up to date info resides.

#349 TexasTigress on 06.30.08 at 4:38 pm

I may seem to be going out on a limb here , but I believe that Clark’s statements about McCain are absolutely BRILLIANT . Clark has been an ardent supporter of Sen. Clinton , and what better way to continue supporting HER than by ‘representing’ Obama in attacking McCain’s Patriotism ( of all things) ? I ,personally, think Clark is crazy like a fox , and in his assertion of the necessity of those ridiculously ambitious military qualifications to being the Commander in Chief , he only further pointed out Obama’s greater weakness . I mean , come on , all Clark did was re-hash McCain’s unbelievable service record , and , even though , he was SAYING it wasn’t good enough to make him POTUS , the message was clear that if all of the great things McCain has done doesn’t qualify him to lead our troops , where does that leave Mr. ” I didn’t join because there wasn’t a draft” ? I think Wesley Clark is still on our team , and if I’m right , we owe him a big fat ‘Thank You’ because it is going to take awhile for Obama to distance himself from an attack on McCain’s patriotism …. Just my thoughts ..

Oh , and Murph , I have been away for awhile , but I am so incredibly impressed with you and the way you continue to handle and grow our site . You are amazing !

#350 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 4:40 pm

Chicagoroadrunner

Ours is most likely up to date. I believe LobbyDelegates quit recording after June 3.

They left their site up for us. :)

#351 ClintonRules on 06.30.08 at 4:42 pm

So I just went 10 rounds with 4 NObama supporters. I had gone to get some root beer and as I was walking to my car, 3 guys and a girl gang up on me. I was wearing one of my Hillary shirts.

Apparently they thought they were smarter than I was…I soon proved them wrong :) Let’s just say when I left, the girl had tears in her eyes, one guy looked like he was going to cry, and the other two had this deer in the headlight look, like they had no idea what just happened.

It was great :)

IDK, something just clicked and I started reciting everything I knew about the primaries, their “chosen one,” and every little bit of info I felt they needed to hear.

They tried to trick me into saying something they could against me…it didn’t work, we had attratced a crowd by the time it was over.

Good times :)

#352 ClintonRules on 06.30.08 at 4:43 pm

“country first and not being a lapdog to the government”–hmm…is that what we’re trying to do? in a way?

or did he not mean it like that? lol

#353 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 4:43 pm

Per Fox News:

Sarah Palin (AK -R) for McCain VP? Not a bad choice.

MEG WHITMAN for McCain VP? You have got to be kidding me.

#354 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 4:44 pm

Great job Clinton Rules. You must be pretty savvy to escape with a smile.

#355 pa dem on 06.30.08 at 4:45 pm

man, I got disconnected right when I was on the air. Oh well, lots of PUMAs did us proud. :-)

#356 mimi1020 on 06.30.08 at 4:46 pm

YOU GO CLINTON RULES! I LOVE IT!

#357 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 4:47 pm

I am sitting here listening to Steve Corbett – our pal in PA – he is a hoot – sounds more like he’s from New York but……….I forgot it was on so missed Rendel, etc. but girlpatriot from florida is going to be on right after the commercial – my god – the radio commercials are as bad as TV – last forever………….

Murph – sent the info to Greta at fox…..crdtd you….see if she follows up – I’ll watch tonite (writing myself a postit so I remember)…………..senior moments ya know

#358 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 4:47 pm

Guess Moveon is on it’s way under the bus.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/30/obama-rebukes-moveon-clar_n_110030.html

#359 lotts1948 on 06.30.08 at 4:48 pm

I got the following email from Boyd Ritchie, who is Chairman of the Texas Democratic Party.

For any and all Texas Pumas who have talked abut the negative things, the possibly illegal and negative things that happened at the caucuses this year, I just received this email.

Anyone interested can submit written testimony about the caucus system!!! Here’s an opportunity if anyone else from Texas is interested in pursuing what you know about the mismanagement, etc. of the Texas caucuses this year!!!

“Dear fellow Democrats,

I am pleased to inform you the first meeting of the Advisory Committee on the Texas Democratic Party Convention/Caucus System has been scheduled. Headed by Senator Royce West, this first of several meetings will convene at the Austin Community College Health Science Building, Building 9000 in the Multi Purpose Hall room 8500 in Austin, Texas on July 7, 2008 at 10:00am. The campus is located at 3401 Webberville Rd, Austin, Texas 78702.

This Committee which Senator West and I have appointed has been charged with studying the current convention/caucus system. Furthermore, based on the testimony taken at these meetings, the committee will then consider this feedback and possibly make recommendations for changes.

While all meetings will be open to the public, the first committee meeting will be limited to invited testimony only. Senator West and the Committee members wish to use this initial meeting as an informational session. They will discuss with current and former Party leaders the history and development of the current convention/caucus system.

Those wishing to participate at this meeting are encouraged to submit written testimony to the Committee, or complete an online survey, available on the Texas Democratic Party website. Additionally, there will be other hearings held in Austin and throughout the state where public testimony will be taken in order to learn about your personal experience with the convention/caucus system. Those hearings will be scheduled at a later date.”

#360 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 4:49 pm

Whoops – who is professionals for hillary? just got an email from them about paying her debt? Anybody else get one?

#361 texassherry on 06.30.08 at 4:50 pm

I just listened to Corbett. He is a great PUMA!!! There was a lot of good call in PUMAS from all over making good points for us.

Go PUMAS

#362 turndownobama on 06.30.08 at 4:52 pm

I’ve just started a new email list, PumaResponders.

It’s to notify members when articles are posted in mainstream media that have comment strings that will be seen by many viewers.

Leads will be supplied by the members, as I don’t read much MSM myself. Pls to join just to supply leads, even if you don’t want to post comments at the MSM sites.

Membership is by invitation. If you want to join, pls email me at 1950democrat/at/gmail/com.

PUMA!

#363 ABinNY on 06.30.08 at 4:52 pm

360 Susie1945
I got it too, Susie

#364 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 4:53 pm

Haven’t heard of this group but they have a GREAT youtube video I just got by email on paying Hillary’s debt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMOVVmlCmkU

#365 pa dem on 06.30.08 at 4:54 pm

Susie: yes, I got one too. I just figured it was from someone at PUMA……

#366 hillfan4mccain on 06.30.08 at 4:55 pm

Bravo Corbett!

#367 chicagoroadrunner on 06.30.08 at 5:00 pm

#350 Maryland Puma — I don’t think my earlier thank you went through. Thank you!

#368 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 5:02 pm

OMG this guy makes me want to HURL:

Excerpts from his speech today:

“Of course, precisely because America isn’t perfect, precisely because our ideals constantly demand more from us, patriotism can never be defined as loyalty to any particular leader or government or policy. As Mark Twain, that greatest of American satirists and proud son of Missouri, once wrote, “Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.” We may hope that our leaders and our government stand up for our ideals, and there are many times in our history when that’s occurred. But when our laws, our leaders or our government are out of alignment with our ideals, then the dissent of ordinary Americans may prove to be one of the truest expression of patriotism.”

“Recognizing a wrong being committed in this country’s name; insisting that we deliver on the promise of our Constitution – these are the acts of patriots, men and women who are defending that which is best in America. And we should never forget that – especially when we disagree with them; especially when they make us uncomfortable with their words.”

AND WE’RE THE BAD GUYS?

#369 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 5:04 pm

#368 Maryland Puma – Did you also hear him when he sorta stood up for McCain and then turned it around to himself (as he always does) by saying that nobody should ? his patriotism in return…………..what a jerk

#370 doria on 06.30.08 at 5:06 pm

I just got on Corbett at WILK in PA as a Proud CT Puma. The first two hours were devoted to Puma and Rendell’s Hound.

There are some fierce Pumas in Pennsylvania!

#371 Hillgirl on 06.30.08 at 5:07 pm

I was listening to Corbett as well. Really great PR for our cause. Corbett is definitely a PUMA and makes no bones about it! Very straightforward. Thank you Mr. Corbett!

#372 sarapuma on 06.30.08 at 5:09 pm

Here is a story about the inside on our girl’s campaign.

In Vanity Fair (boo!) but I thought it had lots of good stuff

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/clinton200808

#373 bellecat on 06.30.08 at 5:13 pm

#327 scathcart:

Thank you for your link on Old Atlantic Lighthouse, about BO’s birth certificate.

Some are finally pressing hard on the issue of legal verification and accountability on the Hawaii state electoral officials.

Definitley the beef this PUMA wants to chew on.

Growl time for bellecat! Grrrr!

#374 Hillgirl on 06.30.08 at 5:13 pm

Doria,
I heard you and you were terrific! You go girl. Also, someone asked about Professionals for Hillary–this was listed on the new nobamanetwork that Murphy posted earlier. Seems legit. :)

#375 mini vee on 06.30.08 at 5:14 pm

#351 ClintonRules

LMAO, you made a BO follower cry! Still laughing. That’s what they get for calling lil’ old ladies b*tches at caucuses.

#376 Battle for the Hill on 06.30.08 at 5:15 pm

#368 I think people are starting to see that the only thing Obama CAN do good is give a good speech. More and more people are seeing through him now and not buying it anymore…there’s too much b.s.

#377 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 5:15 pm

Anybody else noticing how it seems bo is being thrown under HIS bus? Nonody in his corner really seems to be defending him much, even MO. Hmmmm….

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/28/obama-undercuts-his-brand_n_109758.html

#378 StarDust on 06.30.08 at 5:16 pm

Whoa- just checked out the NoObama Network (thanks for the link Murphy) over 200 websites and growing. This movement is becoming a phenomenon. It’s a no wonder they have Google and such trying to shut us down they are trying (in vein) to stop the bleeding. They should have thought of that before they selected such a loser. What a mess (LOL) I love it!

#379 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 5:17 pm

Here’s my response to the Washington Post:

That was the biggest hypocritical speech I’ve ever heard. Those are not his words – they are the words of a gifted speechwriter and a teleprompter. For once I would like to see the man give a speech from his heart and his mind, not from someone else’s. But when in that situation, he is anything but eloquent.

If he is for COUNTRY first, and encourages political DISSENT, then why do his supporters continually degrade, denigrate, insult, and threaten those of us who no longer believe the process and policies of the DNC are Democratic and representative “of the people, by the people, for the people”!

We are not racist. We are not bigots. We are not sexist. We are not REPUBLICANS.

The PUMA movement is for those who no longer have faith or trust in the DNC, not for or against any particular candidate. We act on the voices of our members – the Voice of the Voters.

Our members represent every religion, gender, race, class, and SES, yet we are all of one opinion: the PARTY is broken and must be fixed.

Our mission is COUNTRY before PARTY, yet the Obama media,spin-control machine, and a good deal of his supporters have done everything possible to shut us down and out.

He succeeded in shutting down the vote, but will not succeed in silencing the voices.

God Bless America.

Proud PUMA Member

Hit em hard PUMAs – Site: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/30/obamas_patriotism_speech.html

#380 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 5:18 pm

can see another political cartton coming on…bo, dean, pelosi, rendell, etc (as in aesop’s fables) arguing who is going to put the bell on the cat :D :D :D :D

#381 PA Guy on 06.30.08 at 5:18 pm

McCain lohttp://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/30/mccain-supporters-slam-clark-and-obama-campaign/index.html?nl=pol&emc=pola1oking good………

#382 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 5:19 pm

poor little mice hiding from big bad puddy cat

#383 PA Guy on 06.30.08 at 5:20 pm

sorry

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/30/mccain-supporters-slam-clark-and-obama-campaign/index.html?nl=pol&emc=pola1

Mc Cain looking good in response to patriotism

#384 Battle for the Hill on 06.30.08 at 5:21 pm

#351 excellent job…it’s all about educating people.

#385 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 5:21 pm

Hey, we could send Rendell old newspapers for doggie training!

#386 antifish on 06.30.08 at 5:22 pm

Oh my, Arianna Huffandpuff is admonishing Obama.

Memo to Obama: Moving to the Middle is for Losers
Posted June 30, 2008 | 03:14 PM (EST)
By Arianna Huffington

Last Friday afternoon, the guests taking part in Sunday’s roundtable discussion on This Week had a pre-show call with George Stephanopoulos. One of the topics he raised was Obama’s perceived move to the center, and what it means. Thus began my weekend obsession. If you were within shouting distance of me, odds are we talked about it. I talked about it over lunch with HuffPost’s DC team, over dinner with friends, with the doorman at the hotel, and the driver on the way to the airport.

As part of this process, I looked at the Obama campaign not through the prism of my own progressive views and beliefs but through the prism of a cold-eyed campaign strategist who has no principles except winning. From that point of view, and taking nothing else into consideration, I can unequivocally say: the Obama campaign is making a very serious mistake. Tacking to the center is a losing strategy. And don’t let the latest head-to-head poll numbers lull you the way they lulled Hillary Clinton in December.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/memo-to-obama-moving-to-t_b_110026.html

#387 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 5:23 pm

Great one zephyr!

#388 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 5:25 pm

Maryland..check email. I sent one along same lines but maybe more effective?

#389 bellecat on 06.30.08 at 5:25 pm

oops! can someone please tell me what LOL means?

#390 antifish on 06.30.08 at 5:25 pm

Whoo Hoo! Scrolling through the comments here, one would get the impression that the Obama’s Express is starting to derail!

#391 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 5:26 pm

lol laughing out loud

#392 antifish on 06.30.08 at 5:26 pm

#389 bellecat

Laughing out loud!

#393 antifish on 06.30.08 at 5:27 pm

#385 Maryland,

Puppy training pads!

#394 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 5:27 pm

rofl=rolling on the floor laughing

#395 Battle for the Hill on 06.30.08 at 5:28 pm

Just wondering if PUMA is scheduled for another tv appearance soon – does anyone know?

#396 hillaryistheone on 06.30.08 at 5:28 pm

#379 Maryland PUMA, you sure are a great writer!! There are several of you on here. I sure appreciate what you all can do with words.

#397 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 5:29 pm

lmao=laughing my a** off

#398 PA Guy on 06.30.08 at 5:29 pm

Can u believe this “change”

ABC News Bans Flag Lapel Pins

> Yesterday, the brass at ABC News issued orders forbidding reporters to
> wear lapel pin American flags or other patriotic insignia. Their
> reasoning was that ABC should remain neutral about “causes”.

> Since when is support for preventing our death & destruction some sort
> of a “cause”? Since when is patriotism to be discouraged. I urge you
> to boycott ABC and its sponsors and affiliates.
>
>
> We’re slowly losing everything our country stands for, and everything
> our men and women fought and died to preserve.
>
>
> Please forward this to as many as you can.
>
>
>
> http://www.snopes.com/rumors/noflags.asp
> When was ABC sold to the enemy?

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/noflags.asp

#399 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 5:32 pm

I say we start an email blitz to abc asking if this is true?

#400 Battle for the Hill on 06.30.08 at 5:32 pm

#398 I find this so hard to believe! I know someone who works for ABC, I’m going to have to confirm this.

#401 al-Kahinapuma on 06.30.08 at 5:32 pm

Murphy, Thank you for the instructions. I am a new blogger. Hello everyone. I don’t think it is fair to attack McCain’s war record. He is a war hero?

Even though the draft, and Vietnam was over, there wasn’t anything stopping him from doing a basic 2 year tour.

Why isn’t any questioning him regarding his birth certificate, his connections with Rezko-Iraqi, etc. etc. etc. The media is not making him accountable for anything.

#402 StarDust on 06.30.08 at 5:34 pm

What??!! A ban on flag pins.
Remain neutral on causes???!!
Does this mean they are against America?
Yikes, What next?

#403 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 5:35 pm

#396 Hillaryistheone

Thanks! I don’t often get the chance to blog here or in other places cause I’m working on PAC stuff.

But when I do, it just bursts through my fingertips in all it’s blazing glory. LOL

That’s not to say I don’t have the occasional backspace to delete an expletive. {GRIN}

#404 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 5:37 pm

#388 Taffy

No email yet!

#405 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 5:37 pm

I am beginning to think that BO has become a gift to McCain that keeps on giving.

#406 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 5:40 pm

That snopes comment is from post 9-11. I remember the controversy over it.

It is NOT current. Read the date on the snopes article.

#407 redraz9 on 06.30.08 at 5:41 pm

Greta finally put up a blog for Pumas……….Time for us to roar!
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/#comment-1298279

#408 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 5:42 pm

I’m off to the pool for a bit with the youngun.

Back later tonight.

Keep those Growl signups coming!

#409 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 5:43 pm

2 of them. just resent.

#410 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 5:43 pm

**** REPOST****

DAILY GROWL REMINDER

The Daily Growl is usually not posted on the Action Site until evening.

If you want the P.U.M.A. PAC Daily Growl sent to your email when it’s ready, please email me.

marylandpuma@gmail.com

If you have emailed me and are not getting it, please send me another email.

Today’s is a spew-coffee-out-of-your-nose GROWL – so please, no beverages or food in the mouth when opening.

******************************************

#411 PA Guy on 06.30.08 at 5:43 pm

I just saw that date………….

i get all kinds of mail lately…………I thought it was interesting……….

Sorry for delivering old news

#412 cosmeta on 06.30.08 at 5:47 pm

To
145 hillfan4mccain
152 mpdamon
203 alohapuma
235 goandersen
248 Michelle47
254 KYKitten
255 goDOGS
256 anitfish
258 diva2
261 poo496
302 Pookie

Thank you for *ALL* your kind words. I’ve been posting to forums and blogs since 1994 starting with my first computer and aol; and over the course of time, I know when I am posting too much, especially when I become passionate about something.
Many of you have laptops whereas I use a regular moniker and keyboard and it is much easier to type *long-winded* posts. I type too much, and say to little and in the proces I fear overpowering the many voices here and your wonderful mission. So, if you don’t mind, I think I will just download the PREVIOUS day and read at my own pace from there so as to prevent myself from becomming burdensome. Given the time and energy, I wish I could respond to all of you; but at my age, that simply is not possible.

I am moved… Nay, I am touched and deeply moved by all of you and your deep committment not only to Hillary but to the cause of democracy and freedom’s cause.

I bow to the reverence of your light.

In Peace and Harmony — Cosmeta

#413 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 5:47 pm

maryland did my emails go through?

#414 antifish on 06.30.08 at 5:51 pm

Cosmeta,

No, we love reading what you post! I don’t know what happened, but I can assure you the person who hurt your feelings doesn’t speak for the rest of us. Please stay engaged with us, you are a great asset to the discourse here. :)

#415 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 5:52 pm

cosmeta you have to stay with us. yours could become that one voice that makes a difference. time is against us. I know one voice works because it made a difference at our caucus. My husband and I took 2 votes from bo just by showing up and standing up! Every day makes a difference. We need everybody everyday for this important work. At least “lurk” each day. You never know when inspiration will strike! As for long posts, everybody writes them at one time or another. Look at this one LOL

#416 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 5:53 pm

#350 Maryland PUMA

Re: Most Updated Database,

You are very correct, ours is the most updated, the superdelegates website stopped updating before all the traitors jumped on Obama’s bandwagon in hopes he wouldn’t slight them later. Several sources were used for the PUMA database, however there may be a 2% chance of error.

PUMA’s rule once again. Why? Because we go by facts not hopes and wishy washy dreams.

Goooooooooooo PUMA’s, we’ve got the field and soon it’ll be touchdown time!

#417 al-Kahinapuma on 06.30.08 at 5:54 pm

Let me correct the 2nd paragraph. What I meant by him, I was referring to BO.

Rearding the first paragraph, I was referring to the attacks from BOs campaign, General Wexley etc. I don’t believe-in throwing our heroes under the bus or trashing them.

McCain’s son is also serving in Iraq fighting for our freedoms. Don’t they have any conscious.

BO doesn’t want to be seen as a left wing liberalist. Might be because of his long list of associates that he doesn’t want any of the media, DNC, Dean or Pelosi to question him about. He has changed strategy to moderate. It seems to me that he is not only taking over HClinton/s policies, but seems to me that he thinks he can win over her voters by taking a moderate position.

Correction last paragraph. I was referring to BO. The media isn’t doing investigative reporting. The public has to go to the blogs, and the internet, remarks that HC made during her compaign to get any information on him. He can say whatever he wants, whenever he wants. Their all in coma from dranking the kool-aide.

#418 LatinPuma on 06.30.08 at 5:56 pm

Cosmeta, #118
Your input is valuable here; not only that, your stance on our PUMA cause can not be measured in a tangible manner, because it is people like you and Alohapuma that makes a difference in our society; people who is willing to speak out and stand against what is happening with the Democractic party. Sometimes, we failed, I can tell you I have failed to get informed before judging a situation and make comments that might not be reflective of the reality the other person is leaving/or sees from its own perspective. I am sure Alohapuma did not make those comments with the intention of hurting you; She possibly missedunderstood your point. So, I hope you will continue here; I enjoyed reading your inputs.

#419 storytellers on 06.30.08 at 5:56 pm

the demo. party probably went to russia to get training for
running this election, because they are failing all the democratic principles
**************
how in the world can someone be runnnig 4 president @ frau b.c.?????????????
where are goverment security services????, has the boy passed security clearence????????????

#420 Hillgirl on 06.30.08 at 5:57 pm

Hello, again, everyone,
Great posts! I just wanted to contribute an observation that became clearer after reading the Huffpo article. It seems to me that BO spends more time undoing than doing. With the undoing he systematically eliminates people who apparently do not agree with or speak for him. Who will be left? Only those who mindlessly agree with him? This is democracy?? Has anyone else made that observation?

#421 mpk on 06.30.08 at 5:57 pm

redraz9

I just went over to greta wire to take a look-I’m not sure it is worth your time-what I saw (at least in the comments in the beginning)was rather childish. A lot of name calling and silly stuff-not very useful discourse

#422 alohapuma on 06.30.08 at 6:00 pm

diva2 and northwesterners

I’m not in the Portland area, but might be able to make it up there for the festival. What did you have in mind?

#423 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 6:02 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080630/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_clark

Obama is disowning a whole lot faster these days, must realize he can’t let a second slip by for fear he’ll lose those clinging to him.

#424 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 6:03 pm

WHEEE…anti I just got an email from dnc. they want me to buy a special edition tee shirt. Wrote back and said sorry, just bought my PUMA tee shirt and one from Hillary but thanks for asking :D

#425 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 6:04 pm

Wish Hillary would make or let us make the tee shirt that was the winner in her contest. I really liked that one!

#426 prplvette85 on 06.30.08 at 6:05 pm

has anyone heard of Professionals for Hillary? they sent me an email wanting me to donate to Hillary. I never heard of them, dont know how they got my email addy

#427 diva2 on 06.30.08 at 6:06 pm

I have a website for information. I jusr heard a guy from this on POTUS. The group is Republican African Americans. It is called http://www.nbra.info and of info. on noname’s voting record and his campaign. Just thought we can add some of their comments to our talking points.

#420 alohapuma Sorry I thought someone said you were from up this way. I just thought if anyone was going to be there we coould meet up for a few minutes to say hello. No worry about heading this way. Thanks for the thought tho.

diva2

#428 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 6:06 pm

“#406 redraz9 on 06.30.08 at 5:41 pm Greta finally put up a blog for Pumas……….Time for us to roar!
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/#comment-1298279

Thanks, I ran over and posted.

#429 diva2 on 06.30.08 at 6:09 pm

#423 trishfromcanada — he is running out of things to “disown.” So, in the case of Senator McCain, does it mean he did “own” it at one time and now disowns it
This is all too funny…

#430 Lin4Hill on 06.30.08 at 6:09 pm

#346 – McCaindemo – We are following up on the flower-message to Hillary. This gesture needs some media attention and an effort is underway to get it out there. A call to her campaign headquarters (if someone would give me the number again–I will do this myself) in VA could also help us verify that they were “noticed.” Obviously, Hillary can’t acknowledge us publicly–we are a PAC, and not supposed to be associated with a particular campaign, etc. But all of us who actually sent in orders got verification from florists that they were delivered. And thanks again to Sheila7 for working her kitty-tail off arranging it.

Maryland Puma – great response

I have no worriest about good ol’ Bill. He’s only playing the game as well. It looks bad for BO to have Bill angry at him, so they had to mend the fence. The official statement issued today is rather bland, even by political spin standards.
Bill is passionate. I wouldn’t doubt for one minute that he had to be chained down and locked behind a few steel doors to calm him down after the travesty of this primary. The BO spinners have defiled his legacy, just when he had shaken off some of the residue of the past and was building such goodwill across the world.

Flag pins? On September 11, I put my flag outside my front door and it has never come down. I’ve had to refresh it some, but it stays. Now my patriotism has to turn to salvaging the destruction the DNC has executed against our country, and I’m using claws this time.

#431 PA Guy on 06.30.08 at 6:09 pm

425 prplvette85

I got it too…….

I don’t feel good about it……..

can u trust it?

#432 sheila7 on 06.30.08 at 6:10 pm

Hi everyone!
I’ve been on vacation since Friday morning. I don’t have time to go through everything I missed but I skimmed through and saw that some were wondering if I was an implant and I understand why. I assure you I am not. I left a message late Thursday I think that I would be out of town but I know everyone doesn’t read everything. Anyway, rest assured that the flowers were for real and I am back now. Special hello to wontbackdown.

#433 prplvette85 on 06.30.08 at 6:10 pm

obama’s favorite words:
dis own
de nounce
wasn’t aware
wasn’t there

#434 alohapuma on 06.30.08 at 6:11 pm

diva2

Gotcha! I wasn’t planning a trip, but I do have a sister in the area. If a get-together materializes, e-mail me and I’ll work with m schedule.

alohapuma@gmail.com

Thanks

#435 sheila7 on 06.30.08 at 6:11 pm

#430 lin4hill
just saw your post, thank you

#436 william DenverCO on 06.30.08 at 6:12 pm

Hello PUMA family. I have been calling Democrats in my area and directing them to you, this web site. So talk nice and speak the truth, you might get some converts.
I have a stack of numbers to call, so continue pointing out what is wrong with Obama.
thanks

#437 alohapuma on 06.30.08 at 6:12 pm

sheila,

Did you hear anything about the flowers?

#438 prplvette85 on 06.30.08 at 6:12 pm

#431 Pa Guy- I don’t know, but I am not. I never heard of them and did not sign up for them.

#439 grlpatriot on 06.30.08 at 6:12 pm

Murphy, attempts to delete PUMA on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_Unity_My_Ass

What do we need to do?

#440 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 6:14 pm

PA most of us seemed to have gotten it. The YOUTUBE link is beautiful. going back to check out the others they made.

#441 sheila7 on 06.30.08 at 6:15 pm

#437alohapuma
i haven’t heard anything but i didn’t even have tv or anything this weekend, was at the lake, i was hoping one of you had some info.

#442 antifish on 06.30.08 at 6:17 pm

BO’s Southern State Strategy

Obama Seeks to Add Black Voters
Registration Efforts,
Often Overlooked,
Come to the Fore
By CHRISTOPHER COOPER and SUSAN DAVIS
June 30, 2008; Page A4

RALEIGH, N.C. — On a hot afternoon in this southern U.S. town, Tom Wolf, a field organizer for Barack Obama, delivered the fruits of hundreds of hours of staff effort — 130 voter-registration applications — to the Wake County Board of Elections office. They had been filled out by a handful of Republican-leaners, a few dozen young adults and scores of older African-Americans who stopped voting years ago.

Those older blacks were the focus for Mr. Wolf, a foot soldier in one of the most unconventional aspects of the Illinois senator’s presidential campaign. Sen. Obama reckons that a surge in black voters will put in play long-solid Republican regions across the country, lifting Democratic candidates for all offices, from the White House to Congress to state legislatures. “I guarantee you African-American turnout, if I’m the nominee, goes up 30% around the country, minimum,” Mr. Obama said at a campaign event this past winter.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121477605938614115.html?mod=special_page_campaign2008_topbox

#443 prplvette85 on 06.30.08 at 6:17 pm

Oh sweet Jesus, the Indiana Dems sent me an email with a clip for *61 new ad….of course I didn’t open it. I didn’t even know about Indiana Dems lol…….something else I have to unsubcribe too….crap….do they ever give up?
I AM AN INDEPENDENT NOW:)

#444 utahpuma on 06.30.08 at 6:18 pm

#426 prplvette85

I got the email too. Never heard of them. I’m a little suspicious of how they got my email. I am wondering if NoName got our emails from Hillary’s website.

By the way Murphy, I forgot to mention that the H.O.U.N.D. photos on top for today really say it all without any words!! Love it.

#445 Lin4Hill on 06.30.08 at 6:19 pm

Sheila7 – You’re welcome. Hope you got some much needed rest–

#446 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 6:20 pm

Pumas – went over to Greta’s site & saw an email she posted – bots are out in full force & just as nasty as ever – still don’t get it – the more they insult us the less we like them or their leader – anyway – I expected more – maybe she’ll have something on her show – did anyone see her blog list – the newspapers, etc on the side – that looks pretty good…………….we could use that info maybe……

#447 storytellers on 06.30.08 at 6:26 pm

utahpuma
that is what happen to me
the next thing I knew was my e-mai list was hacked
be careful¡¡¡

#448 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 6:26 pm

“#439 grlpatriot on 06.30.08 at 6:12 pm Murphy, attempts to delete PUMA on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_Unity_My_Ass

What do we need to do?”

That one is not Murphy’s.

#449 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 6:28 pm

What’s up? A lot I can see. Just browsed for now. Wanted to say:
1. I voted in the petition

2. Regarding Barack giving a speech. That is going to be his delivery style for this campaign. His staffers have already said that Barack will talk to the American People in the style and format that “they have come to respect, trust, and support.” So, his patriotism is being questioned with his Birth Certificate, his ancestry, his allegiances, and friends. I got an email from my cousin that is “way over the top” and I would never post it on this blog, but they (Donna B. and Howard) call us HATERS. We are lovers compared to other anti-Barack groups. With that said, he feels he needs to whip us into a Patriotic Frenzy in order to justify that he can be respected by “Wesley Clark’s, et.al.” The McCain camp is already questioning why he HAS NOT planned to visit the troops in Iraq or why he has not tried to make an additional trip outside the one in 2006. REASON: Can you see the meeting between him and Gen. Petraeus when that happens? When the General was giving his review of the benchmarks back in March or April to the House and Senate, Barack’s questions were vague and sounded stupid…as some recorded it. He did NOT ask to visit with the General in a private meeting as the other candidates did at the time. He wants to visit Iraq, but he has got to get this Patriotism flaw under control. So we get a speech. Have a problem, give a speech. I will submit part 2 later. It will be points of why many Americans have drank the koolaid and are “blinded” by his person. Stay tuned.

#450 faye4hill on 06.30.08 at 6:29 pm

WELL—-MOVEON …UNDER THE BUS … any more room left

Obama takes swipe at MoveOn
Posted: 05:41 PM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Obama criticized MoveOn.org over its controversial ad.
(CNN) — Barack Obama on Monday seemed to take a direct swipe at MoveOn.org, the powerful liberal group which endorsed the Illinois senator’s candidacy earlier this year and was at times instrumental to his organization in several key battleground states.

In a speech designed to combat charges he lacks patriotism, Obama sharply condemned organizations that use “these old, threadbare arguments” to level criticisms and specifically pointed to MoveOn.org’s controversial newspaper ad last fall that attacked the top U.S. general in Iraq, David Petraeus.

Watch: Obama talks patriotism

“All too often our politics still seems trapped in these old, threadbare arguments – a fact most evident during our recent debates about the war in Iraq, when those who opposed administration policy were tagged by some as unpatriotic, and a general providing his best counsel on how to move forward in Iraq was accused of betrayal,” Obama said.

MoveOn has not responded to Obama’s comments.

#451 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 6:30 pm

Hey, y’all. After it came out that yestodemocracy.org accused PUMAs of vandalism in Orlando and posted a response to one of our own’s emails (lotts1948), I have been scoping out the posts and comments and adding comments of my own (as Heather, my real name). You may have also read about the petition on Care2 from yestodemocracy.

Christina, who appears to be responsible for all of this, states she is a Democrat and claims that the PUMA movement is made up of Republicans. FYI, here is the latest exchange between us:

# (I said):

It has been said that before PUMA became viral, it was an idea born on The Confluence, also a wordpress site. If you read the posts and comments on the Confluence, you can tell that they are definitely not Republicans. Have you checked that site out?

# Christina Says:
June 30, 2008 at 7:00 pm

I have checked them out.
This site is about the actual PAC PUMA, how it begun- how the PAC was formulated by Republicans. I, and many others, feel that what is stated on this site is evidence enough.
PUMA is aided by Republicans, backed by Republicans, and furthered by Republicans.
They are tricking Democrats into contributing to their swift boat orgnanization.
Say no deal to PUMA.

——
Y’all, we all know for a fact that the Confluence does not say that PUMA is backed by Republicans. I am not a regular blogger there, but some of you may be. This issue may fall in the “ignore it” category, or it may be something we should follow up on to defend our pac and Confluence from the misinformation machine.

#452 Lin4Hill on 06.30.08 at 6:30 pm

Folks- my sister found this info re: the blocked blogs:

UPDATE: Google spokesman Adam Kovacevich suggests my longwinded free speech defense jumps to conclusions, and that the real culprit here was an errant spam filter. He emails:

We think blog spam is a serious problem and we have spam detection software to try to eliminate it. In this case, it appears that our anti-spam filters caused some Blogger accounts to be blocked from creating new posts.

While we are still investigating, we believe this may have been caused by mass spam e-mails mentioning the “Just Say No Deal” network of blogs, which in turn caused our system to classify the blog addresses mentioned in the e-mails as spam. We have restored posting rights to the affected blogs, and it is very important to us that Blogger remain a tool for political debate and free expression.

By Ben Smith 04:29 PM

#453 faye4hill on 06.30.08 at 6:30 pm

WHICH NETWORK IS MOST BIASED ….

http://www.newsbusters.org/polls/which-network-most-biased-22286

ABC
1% (54 votes)

CBS6% (237 votes)

CNN
10% (382 votes)

FNC
3% (123 votes)

MSNBC
70% (2754 votes)

NBC
10% (395 votes)

70%think—msnbc–any surprises there …

#454 LatinPuma on 06.30.08 at 6:32 pm

#386 Antifish,

You are amazing; you are on top of every site all the time. It is good to see Huffington is begining to be able to reason beyond the kool-aid.

#455 william DenverCO on 06.30.08 at 6:32 pm

Breaking NEWS; Obama takes swipe at MoveOn.org

Minutes after he takes swipe he calls MoveOn.org and tells them he was just putting up a front.

What a joker?

#456 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 6:32 pm

went in to the videos on Youtube by professionals for Hillary. They started when she was still a candidate and were made by rising stars for Hillary. They were all paid for by Hillary’s campaign according to the ad and were pleas for money directing you to go to her website and asking you to have 10 friends go. They apparently started just before the last 5 primaries. The videos are beautiful. Lots of great Hillary shots.

#457 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 6:33 pm

#439 grlpatriot

That PUMA wikepage is not Murphy’s. PMA PAC has its own wikipage that is safely stored right now. We are working with the wiki admins to ensure it is of the right quality and follows all guideline so that it will not be deleted in the future.

Bear with us on this, its a slow process but the rewards will be great

#458 tree on 06.30.08 at 6:35 pm

Murphy,
I hope you get a chance to read my email, but only when you have a minute.

TREE
PUMA

#459 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 6:35 pm

Oh Yuck…bo is going to be in CO Springs CO for an invitation only event on Tuesday. Must be for rich people cause I’m not on the list :(

#460 diva2 on 06.30.08 at 6:36 pm

#424 Taffy Maybe send them one of your t-shirts with and order form!! heehee

#461 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 6:36 pm

#459 Taffy

Could be for the mentally challenged :) Be happy you’re not on that list

#462 tree on 06.30.08 at 6:37 pm

Trish,
Where in Canada? I have a special friend who’s in Ontario (KITCHENER) ever hear of it?

#463 greenfun on 06.30.08 at 6:37 pm

I have been reading the rosy comments on CNN etc. regarding the conversation between Obama and Bill Clinton. I like the interpretation at Fox News online the best.

As Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were kissing and making up last Friday, Bill Clinton might have had other ideas, according to a report in The (London) Telegraph.

The paper reports that even as the former president and the current presumptive Democratic nominee prepare to meet to make their own amends, Bill Clinton reportedly told close friends Obama can “kiss my ass” to get his support.

AWESOME!!!

#464 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 6:38 pm

#462 tree

I’m in Toronto, yup I know kitchener-waterloo.

#465 chicagoroadrunner on 06.30.08 at 6:40 pm

The Daily Growl is a hoot! LOL.

#385 Funny! We should take op ed pgs frm newspapers that are decidely BO (i.e. Chicago Trib) and send to Rendell saying he may need it to train his Hound!

When does the DNC have to report money raised for June?

#466 mcr on 06.30.08 at 6:40 pm

Re: *Breaking* Kos Tampering with Obama Birth Certificate? [UPDATE] » 6-30-08, 2:00 PM

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

B. O.: The “O” stands for “Opportunist.”

#467 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 6:41 pm

BHO has to do more than “kiss my ass” to get my support!

#468 tree on 06.30.08 at 6:41 pm

Trish, yes thats where he lives, thank you for an answer, I usually dont get one lol

#469 LoveHillary on 06.30.08 at 6:44 pm

PUT UP MY FIRST PUMA FLYER TODAY AT MY LOCAL LIBRARY! YEA!!! IT FELT GREAT!

#470 ladyhawkke on 06.30.08 at 6:45 pm

I haven’t been able to blog the last couple of days, but I’m back for awhile. Also, had severe thunderstorms today and electricity and cable were out for hours.
Didn’t read all of the posts as I have to cook dinner; however, I did call the Orlando Police Dept. regarding the vandalism and I spoke to an officer. I emphatically told him that the garbage that was spray-painted on all the cars were definitely Obama thugs. This is what was reported: “IN ADDITION TO THE SPRAY PAINT THE CULPRITS LEFT BUSINESS CARDS WITH POLITICAL RAMBLINGS.
THE CARDS SLAMMED OBAMA AND SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN — BUT SUPPORTED HILLARY CLINTON.
THEY ALSO CALLED FOR THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA AND AN END TO THE BUILDING OF NEW PRISONS.” I told the officer no way would Hillary supporters be calling for the legalization of marijuana and an end to building new prisons. He agreed with me but said that they had no proof and were still investigating. Too bad there weren’t any video cameras. What aggravates me is that the bots are not happy they have their unqualified candidate and Hillary was denied the nomination. What the DNC has created is a monster and it can only get worse.

Also, I’m very upset about Bill Clinton’s apparent support of Obama and Wesley Clark’s comments about McCain.

I have not been able to convince one Obamamaniac to stop drinking the kool-aid. Very sad.

#471 diva2 on 06.30.08 at 6:45 pm

Posted this a few days ago. Sen. Clinton taking the oath for being a Senator. I use it to visualize her taking the oath for President. Enjoy!

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/14/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/14Rpolitics.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

#472 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 6:46 pm

Well, the MoveOn flap seems to have given some legs to my reasoning on post #449. Whether he was genuine or not, he had to use something that a majority of Americans remember and can relate to. This is Barack at his best. Do whatever it takes to become President. It would not surprise me that he told them before he made the statement that he would be mentioning their actions for reference. Not surprised one bit.

#473 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 6:47 pm

Does this sound like change or same old politics.

#474 ladyhawkke on 06.30.08 at 6:47 pm

Sorry, Murphy, forgot to congratulate you on your great article. It should be put in the paper and sent to Rendell, Pelosi and Dean.

#475 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 6:50 pm

ladyhawkke – thanks for the update on the vandalism in Orlando. It is awesome that you were able to talk to the authorities about it. I am in the panhandle.

#476 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 6:51 pm

I hear this question over and over again and still have not heard an answer to it. What has Obama done?

#477 murphy on 06.30.08 at 6:51 pm

Holy Smokes Marylandpuma, TTME! (tears to my eyes)

Beeyootiful!!

#478 Henerietta on 06.30.08 at 6:52 pm

To the person who commented on hypnotic elements in Obama’s speeches:

My daughter is a college student with a history major and a music minor. As part of her music training (she plays 11 instruments) she has studied canence and rhythm. She tells me that the way Obama phrases his speeches is directly related to cadence. This is a tool used by military and other groups to ‘get the song into their heads’ to block out any other distractions.

Just like the military say ‘sound of 1-2-3-4 12 34′ the 10 sylible cadence that is used in the Obama speeches is stimulation for the brain to put it into conformance mode.

Does anyone else see this?

Heneri

#479 ClintonRules on 06.30.08 at 6:52 pm

Haha, yeah :)

With regards to my “brawl” with those 4 NObama goons…one asked me how old I was, I said I’m 22 and he said something about how a vote for NObama was a vote for the future…and I couldn’t help but laugh. They didn’t find it funny.

I truly have little in common with people in my age group…oh well, Hillary’s going to be President so when they’re all benefitting from her vast intelligence, who really gets the last laugh?

#480 PA Guy on 06.30.08 at 6:52 pm

Well….I put my comment @Gretawire

don’t see it yet ?

#481 NativeFlower on 06.30.08 at 6:53 pm

what can I say?
he’s a pill I’m not willing to swallow
:(

#482 luckylady on 06.30.08 at 6:55 pm

Cosmeta – Please stay and continue to contribute to our cause. Remember that we are amelting pot of members and we all differ at times. But what has to keep us together as a group is our desire to make a difference. I hardly post anything on the blog but I do benefit from everyones’ input. Please stay and make our pac stronger.

#483 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 6:57 pm

#349 TexasTigress

It’s been awhile since you posted your comment, but I wanted to say that I had the same thought when I read the Wesley Clark statement. It was so clumsily worded and pretty transparent. But, I suppose he could have been instructed by the BO campaign what to say and that’s why it read so strange. Time will tell.

#484 murphy on 06.30.08 at 6:58 pm

sorry I meant to say Marylandpuma #379, I was talking about yr comment to the WaPo

#485 Battle for the Hill on 06.30.08 at 7:00 pm

#478 Henerietta I definitely noticed a specific pace in his last speech. I guess I’m just so aware of it now of how of he’s playing the audience.

#486 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 7:00 pm

Barack is the Willy Wonka of today. My reference is with the original version of the adaption when Gene Wilder played Willy. I could fill the page with Barack and Willy comparisons, from Axelrod to the guy that wore the wire framed glasses that followed each golden ticket winner around. The one thing that stands out most in the comparison is when Willy told his visitors “Who can make the sunshine, sprinkle it with rain, and then turn it into a rainbow?” —-Wonka can. Willy also constantly reminded them that he(Willy) could be ANYTHING that THEY wanted HIM to be. Got some free time, pick up the DVD (original version not the Johnny Depp version) and see for yourself. A Master Magician. BTW, Depp’s version was cool–a fan here.
Barack Obama=anything you want him to be.

#487 Hillgirl on 06.30.08 at 7:01 pm

PA Guy,
I posted on Gretawire also, but do not see it either. They must have a moderation process. Maryland Puma I agree with Murphy–great letter! And, Murphy, great post for this thread.

#488 Goalucard4Hill on 06.30.08 at 7:03 pm

#132 – COSMETA – Oh no you DON’t GIRL FRIEND – you are NOT leaving this site – I just starting reading and perhaps you have had the same response from others – right now I am involved in a family emergency – so to read a whole blog like this would take hours – but I got to your comment – and “I” did not misunderstand what you were saying – and now you clarified it – you are valuable with your posts, your comments, and your wisdom – this site needs you – I have had others ask me questions about some of my own posts – that were just read too quickly and misunderstood – the unfortunate thing about this site is that if you go away – and come back the only thing you can do is skim – and thats a good thing that so many people are here.

SO raise your right hand and imagine that Hillary is doing the same thing taking the oath of office – maybe you have already said that you are staying and I have not gotten back post # 132.

Drac

#489 faye4hill on 06.30.08 at 7:04 pm

Mr. Obama gave 26,000.00 to wright’s church??

#490 grlpatriot on 06.30.08 at 7:05 pm

#448 Middle age female and #457 TrishfromCanada thanks for letting me know.

#491 mijabsnji on 06.30.08 at 7:05 pm

Hi Everyone,
I just had another request from DNC for a donation and get a free t-shirt, I sent my usual no obama reply stating I am one of 18 million I am a PUMA,seems like I had a million requests this week,they must be desperate.

#492 gina613 on 06.30.08 at 7:05 pm

I can’t catch up on all the post. I’m intermittently catching blogs concerning Obama’s B.C. Is Hawaii’s Birth Certificate department actually looking into it? Has the main stream media picked up on it? I haven’t even heard Hannity discussing it, yet.

Anyone have a link to Hawaii” B.C. department? Would it help for us to all write and put pressure on them to investigate?

#493 Maryland PUMA on 06.30.08 at 7:06 pm

More thunderboomers here….again. Back on later!

#494 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 7:08 pm

476 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 6:51 pm I hear this question over and over again and still have not heard an answer to it. What has Obama done?

Vadaryl~ He was a community organizer. Read for yourself. This was posted upthread and I also offered up the link a couple of days ago. This is what he has done/doing.

Grim proving ground for Obama’s housing policy, Boston Globe

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=full

By Binyamin Appelbaum Globe Staff / June 27, 2008
“Jamie Kalven, a longtime Chicago housing activist, put it this way: “I hope there is not much predictive value in his history and in his involvement with that community.”

#495 DancesWithPumas on 06.30.08 at 7:08 pm

PUMA ORIGINS

This is a small bit of the blog posted by SM77 at The Confluence today:

“Here at the Confluence, we all witnessed our PUMA cub’s birth on June 1st 2008 in a wee little comments section, a feline mutt that’s half Snarky and half Rebellious Defiance. We giggled and cooed how cute and funny she turned out. Whenever we would say her full name, it was like seeing Happy the New Year Baby’s big ears. Party Unity My Ass, hee-hee!

Yet Mother Riverdaughter’s muse, the inspiring Hypergraphia, retreated from the gleeful crowd. In calm seclusion, Hypergraphia gave the cub potent megavitamins of symbolic purpose, chanted shamanic prayers of justice and taught little PUMA how stand on its own two feet. Like watching the Aurora Borealis color a once-barren night sky, we stood in awe as PUMA arose from its tiny snark paws into a fierce beast of political dissent.

That same day, PUMA wandered out from its birthplace, reaching official 527 status through Murphy’s PUMAPac. Each hour-second-minute that ticked on June 1st reaching virtual light speed velocity, PUMA grew faster, bigger, stronger, charging through teh intertubez and resonated with millions of voters who agreed that something wasn’t right with the DNC/RBC ruling, famously demonstrated by PUMA Elder Priestess-in-Chief, Harriet Christian.

Then a week later on June 8th, 2008, the PUMA Priestess-in-Prada Diane Mantouvalos and PUMA Chieftain Supreme Will Bower appeared on the MSM networks, announcing PUMAs’ arrival to the talking heads, miraculously herding a 2,000,000+ PUMA pride coalition at JustSayNoDeal.com. Through small Midwestern towns to large cosmopolitan cities, through laptops, desktops, telephones and word-of-mouth, emails and thread comments, interviews and soundbites, the PUMA cat not just flew outta the bag, it shredded the bag to pieces. Yummy. “

#496 MsBinMD on 06.30.08 at 7:09 pm

Just posted this on Gretawire. Typical rebuttals from OB bloggers but more from PUMA supporters. Jump over and post. Sure that Greta will report in and it will be more impressive if she is inundated from our members

____________________________________________
Comment by MsBinMD
June 30th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
(P)arty (U)nity (M)eans (A)ction – http://blog.pumapac.org/

Join us and discuss the facts. Make your own informed decisions and take action.

You can tell our members from the OB supporters because we do not have to resort to “filth’, “threats”,”namecalling”, and “unnecessary hatefulness” to express our opinions and points.

Since Mr. O is not in office yet, I think we still have that right as Americans – proud ones at that.

#497 PA Guy on 06.30.08 at 7:09 pm

Naaaaaaa…..can’t be true

first time I seen this!

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=662521

#498 hillfan4mccain on 06.30.08 at 7:09 pm

Cosmeta

No no no! Please I love reading your posts! I truly look forward to coming here and reading what you say. I breeze through these as best I can, 4 kids, husband living in another city, fibromyalgia, pitching in as I can with the puma’s. But I can tell you as I breeze thru these I always stop to see what you have to say. Please stick around. Plain and simple as I said before, I will be bummed!

#499 faye4hill on 06.30.08 at 7:10 pm

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#500 DancesWithPumas on 06.30.08 at 7:12 pm

The new format for http://www.pumapacusa.org is beautious!
Brava! Brava!

Go PUMA
Voice of the Voters

#501 faye4hill on 06.30.08 at 7:13 pm

#132

PLS don,t stop poting …….we need,we need everyone here,we need each other ….come back .

#502 shampoovta on 06.30.08 at 7:14 pm

Dragonfly wrote

“Christina, who appears to be responsible for all of this, states she is a Democrat and claims that… ( !!! the PUMA movement is made up of Republicans!!!) . FYI, here is the latest exchange between us:”

Ha ha ha ha yah I’m a republican Hhhha ha ha ha, please your killing me. Ha ha ha ha ….

NO!

Wrong!

Fail!

#503 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 7:15 pm

“480 PA Guy on 06.30.08 at 6:52 pm Well….I put my comment @Gretawire

don’t see it yet ?”

The posts show up right away, at least mine did, but it is at the TOP of the page on my computer. I had a heck of a time finding it.

#504 DancesWithPumas on 06.30.08 at 7:16 pm

Cosmeta… what the heck…?
I haven’t read your grievances, only that you’re leaving? Something about posting too much?

Your posts are informative… I never cringe when I bring a newcomer to this site and you’re posts are up, same with most others.

If people don’t like your posts, style of posting, they can just scroll past them, no? Hope you stay, it’s up to you, but if not, I wish you well.

#505 Hill2TheHill on 06.30.08 at 7:16 pm

#217 LisaNC Maybe you could send the html coding to the member here who runs PUMAS MySpace page? Loca2525 (? I think I got that). She could post on there?

#337 antifis ~ I just lost my appetite :(

#346 Re: flowers ~ All I know is many (including myself) have posted that they were delivered. I hope we hear something eventually. If not, I’m sure it was appreciated.

#351 ClintonRules GREAT STORY!! That made my evening :)

#506 ElyLos Angeles on 06.30.08 at 7:17 pm

478 Henerietta
Very interesting observation. I always had think that he is using all means to controll his supporters.
Because no one have an idea about his proposals, but they support him with closed eyes.

#507 faye4hill on 06.30.08 at 7:17 pm

someone wrote this on a other blog –pasting it here-
Comment by Hillary’s supporters…..
June 30th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Americans will be safe with trustworthy, experienced J. McCain. We must support
this honorable war hero or the terrorist lover, inexperienced Barack Hussein may
win in November. Americans can afford that, not now not ever!

If Hillary supporters have any selfrespect, selfpride and valued principals we must
walk away from SEXIST, corrupt, ANTIAMERICAN Democrat party that stole the People’s
choice nomine EXPERIENCED Hillary Clinton and gave it to a questionable, poor judgement,
inexperienced Barack Hussein, they SELECTED him, they made a mockery of Hillary
and her supporters too.

#508 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 7:19 pm

#497~this has been around since Rezko started bubbling to the surface late last fall. What is surprising is that Sean H. is giving it legs on his blog. Hannity has mentioned these accusations, but not with the same vigor as he did with Wright, Ayers, Phleger, and the others. Thanks sharing the link.

#509 sarapuma on 06.30.08 at 7:19 pm

So what if PUMA is backed by Republicans.

I battle you discover your real friends.

I was raised a democrat but now for truth I go to Fox and Rush

#510 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 7:19 pm

edit-thanks for sharing

#511 ontherocks on 06.30.08 at 7:19 pm

Hello PUMAs,
I just back from work. What is going on? This morning someone else was leaving and now Cosmeta.
Cosmeta please don’t leave. I really enjoy reading your posts. I am busy wife, mom and work a full time job. I don’t get the chance to posts as much as I would like but I am always thinking of things I can do to help the great site.
Please don’t go anywhere. We need everyone. We all our personal reasons for feeling and believing the way we do but we ALL have a goal in common.
On another note: Murphy, when is my T-shirt going to arrive. I can’t wait to wear it and pass out flyers.

#512 Battle for the Hill on 06.30.08 at 7:22 pm

#497 thanks for posting this link. click on the yellow link about larry sinclair and donald young and lemme know what you think. If you guys missed it, please go back and check it out and see if it’s legit or not.

#513 Always4Hil on 06.30.08 at 7:23 pm

I saw the article and heard on FOX Britt hume show about how Obama(Mr. I support equal rights and pay for women..blah blah) actually has significantly fewer female staffers and the females are paid over $6000 less than the men! In contrast McCain has more female staffers then men and they in general are higher ranking and making at least 3-4 thousand more then the guys. Action speaks louder then JUST WORDS Sen. Obama. Hillary supporters already know he is no friend of women–hypocrite. Oh, and queen81,I’m in your shoes, and I’ve lost a couple of friends over the Obama v McCain thing..but I’m not backing down, my vote is my own:-) I think I’ll go to the local gayborhood and wear my No Way, No chance, No votes for Obama shirt!

#514 SusyT on 06.30.08 at 7:24 pm

Good Evening PUMAs,

Cometa….hang in. I always enjoy reading your posts!

Just came back from reading blog on Gretawire. What is this crap about cars being vandalized by Clinton supporters in Orlando??? I can’t believe it. Sounds like setup to me.

#515 catsrlove on 06.30.08 at 7:24 pm

Did any of you hear the latest on the kool aid drinkers?
Tom had CNN on. Some of them are going to use HIS middle name as theirs to show their unity.

These people are really strange.

I wear my Hillary for President button everywhere I go.
No one has had the nerve to say anything to me yet. I will be ready for them if they do..

Murphy, you are doing a great job..

PUMA POWER….

#516 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 7:25 pm

I tried to post on Greta wire (as Heather) – we’ll see if my comment gets posted.

#517 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 7:25 pm

cosmeta i like your posts as well s everyones else. We all learn from each other.

#518 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 7:26 pm

#515 catsrlove

Next they’ll be getting buzz cuts and doing the turkey trot

#519 doria on 06.30.08 at 7:26 pm

Murphy..My pumapac donation went through! I followed the directions this time..oops.

#520 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 7:27 pm

Just a comment regarding members/posters leaving. I don’t know what this issue is regarding Cosmeta, but they have been a tremendous asset with information, ideas, and PUMA Action/Tasks. They (Cosmeta) has given me answers and suggestions with my issues/posts over the past several weeks. They have earned my respect in what they have done. I have been guilty of falling prey to “cut and shoot” posters at times when I was p.o. at what was going on, etc. It only takes 1 lose cannon to sink half an arsenal. Just my thoughts and I hope, Cosmeta, you reconsider.

#521 notobama2 on 06.30.08 at 7:27 pm

Politico.com reported about Google disabling anti-Obama blogs – http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11453_Page2.html:

Google disables anti-Obama blogs [UPDATED]

Here’s a bit of a cautionary tale on the under-rated power of those “report abuse” or “flag this blog” features that you see on websites (including this one) of all types.

Several anti-Obama, or pro-Clinton, blogs that run on Blogger — Google’s free blogging platform — have been disabled after somebody complained — falsely — that they’re spam.

It’s a similar tactic to one that’s been used on (also Google-owned) YouTube to make videos considered objectionable by various political wings harder to get at; and it’s part of a broader, worrisome trend in which features designed to promote community control wind up permitting a form of censorship.

Google didn’t respond to my email seeking comment, and I imagine that if the bloggers are persistent, the company will reactivate their accounts. But this would be a handy way to cripple an opponent’s grassroots in the final days of a campaign, when a few hours lost can make a real difference, and while an Obama supporter seems to have used it this time, there’s no reason others can’t in the future.

There’s no obvious solution — community reporting of abuse is the best of imperfect systems. But it also lends itself to its own meta-abuse.

UPDATE: Google spokesman Adam Kovacevich suggests my longwinded free speech defense jumps to conclusions, and that the real culprit here was an errant spam filter. He emails:

We think blog spam is a serious problem and we have spam detection software to try to eliminate it. In this case, it appears that our anti-spam filters caused some Blogger accounts to be blocked from creating new posts.

While we are still investigating, we believe this may have been caused by mass spam e-mails mentioning the “Just Say No Deal” network of blogs, which in turn caused our system to classify the blog addresses mentioned in the e-mails as spam. We have restored posting rights to the affected blogs, and it is very important to us that Blogger remain a tool for political debate and free expression.

#522 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 7:27 pm

SusyT, yes, I think the car vandalism in Orlando is a set up. I have blogged about that on yestodemocracy.org, which has several accusatory and derogatory posts about PUMAs. ladyhawkke has a few posts earlier in this thread, SusyT, about how she talked to authorities in Orlando about it. Apparently they do not believe Hillary supporters are responsible.

#523 jane-pa on 06.30.08 at 7:28 pm

hi all good to be back. I was surprised to see the topper had a fit for a min. Glad I recognised the names on right LOl. I thought what did they do while I was gone. Good to see you all here and doing good.I did hear that there was a question on his BC. Do you think this had anything to do with the passport look see?Also I heard there is a lot of checking on registrations and a lot off dead people voteing. I hope these new ones he is bringing in are checked. Georgia had someone say the people were getting 40.00 for there absentee ballots. Any one hear anything?

#524 PA Guy on 06.30.08 at 7:28 pm

I’m going back to Gretta………….
see whats up

#525 StarDust on 06.30.08 at 7:28 pm

Wow Cosmeta I thought you had left. I had come in here late today and read posts as I usually do and was so upset. I thought you were gone. I’m so glad to see your name back in here. I think of everyone here almost as family and… dang don’t you ever scare us again like that you hear me.

#526 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 7:31 pm

#386 antifish

If HuffandPuff (LOL) is beginning to see the light, there’s hope for everyone.

#527 Taffy on 06.30.08 at 7:32 pm

worst June on record on wall street since depression in 1930 :(

#528 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 7:32 pm

#502 shampoovta – hey I saw you on there too! You were kicking a$$

#529 faye4hill on 06.30.08 at 7:34 pm

LOOKS LIKE –OBAMA,S KIDS @DAILYKOS-DAILYHATE ARE GROWING UP….WELL STARTING TO …

WTF is up with the Obama campaign?
by greenlabormike
Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 02:54:33 PM PDT
This isn’t meant to be a “bash Obama” post or a purity troll post or anything like that. It’s simply my look back at what has been coming out of the Obama campaign since becoming the de facto Democratic nominee on June 3rd.

In a nutshell, my observations of the Obama campaing since June 3rd has been a sudden and almost complete conversion into a “traditional” Democratic campaign, a la Kerry 2004. On both substantive issues (FISA) and “process” (Clark’s comments on McCain’s foreign policy experience), it’s as if the Obama campaign advisers names changed from Axelrod and Plouffe to Shrum and Penn. Seriously.

Is the Obama Campaign’s change in strategy since June 3rd working?

Yes! The Obama campaign is kicking ass and taking names.
10% 23 votes

Yes. I don’t like it, but I think it’s the right call in order to win in November
23% 55 votes

No! It’s depressing the democratic base, and reinforcing Republican/Village narratives.
53% 126 votes

No, and thank goodness. Obama is an over-rated hack and now everyone can see it.
6% 14 votes

What change? The Obama campaign strategy hasn’t changed at all.
9% 22 votes
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/30/1759/34210/827/544295

#530 DancesWithPumas on 06.30.08 at 7:35 pm

Can the graphics on teh pumapacusa.org index page be slowed down a bit? They seem manic

#531 DancesWithPumas on 06.30.08 at 7:35 pm

kos is a shill for obama

#532 PA Guy on 06.30.08 at 7:35 pm

OK…….what did I do wrong that it did not make Gretawire : (

Dear Greta,

The DNC has left both I and millions of other Democratic voters hanging like a “CHAD”.
I have to agree with Donna Brazile, that if the “Will of the people” is overturned by Delegates, I will consider leaving the party.

Would I vote for Obama? “I’ll have to think about it”.………………………from my cold dead hands………..…….Not only am clinging to my guns and religion, but also my right to choose whomever I believe to be the best candidate for this 2008 Presidential Race.

I will most likely “Vote Qualifications vs. Party”.

I will vote based on a candidates experience and qualifications. I would never hire someone of lesser qualities. Hillary fulfills all credentials required to fill the most important job in the world.
I will follow Hillary to the convention, but in November, I will vote anyone but BHO. He is all talk and his achievements are limited.

Hillary will do what she has to do; I understand that. But the Democratic Party is failing because of its smoke and mirror campaign tactics and fuzzy math.

WHY HAVE Primaries (A “Democratic” Process)……………………when WE GOT THE DNC
The Democratic Party has driven us to the next most Qualified….. John McCain or …..a NO VOTE.
Those who just assume that we will jump on Obama’s soul train fueled by inspiration and false hopes are only making us more determined to NOT vote Obama. Never Assume!

PA Guy

http://blog.pumapac.org/

#533 faye4hill on 06.30.08 at 7:39 pm

LOOKS LIKE –OBAMA,S KIDS @DAILYKOS-DAILYHATE ARE GROWING UP….WELL STARTING TO …

Barack Obama: Moron………….

by Shade Tail
Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 02:58:23 PM PDT
By now, everybody on Kos has heard about this. Yesterday, Sunday June 29th, General Wesley Clark went to bat for Obama on “Face the Nation”, and the GOP and their enablers immediately went utterly insane about it. Here are some of CarpetBagger’s articles about it:

General Clark’s appearance

A little bit of McCainity

Sen. Obama’s response to all of this? Probably the worst possible response of all: He’s backing away from it.

Shade Tail’s diary :: ::
Even if Obama had snapped and suddenly engaged in mass-murder, I could not possibly be more disappointed in him than I am right now (shocked, yes; disappointed, no). I supported him throughout the primary after Senator Chris Dodd dropped out, because I liked the campaign Obama was running. He staked out his positions, stuck to his guns, and never looked down his nose at anyone or tried to pander to them. He promised change, and while I didn’t agree with all of his politics and knew full well that he isn’t as liberal as I am, he still managed to win my respect the hard way.

And then he flip-flopped on his FISA promise.

Are you disappointed in Obama right now?

You bet, he shouldn’t be wilting under the criticism about Clark.
38% 91 votes
Yeah, that FISA thing really bums me.
19% 45 votes
Yup, that “bitter and clinging to god and guns” comment was a killer.
0% 1 votes
Of course I am! Clinton should have won!
4% 9 votes
Sure I am. I’ll fill you in on why down in the comments…
2% 4 votes
Nah, I was never going to vote for that black Muslim guy anyway.
3% 7 votes
No, I like his positions on everything.
23% 55 votes
Heathen! How dare you impugn the devine Obama?!
9% 22 votes
Uh, disappointed in who, again? I’ve been living under this lovely rock for a while now…
2% 5 votes

Are you disappointed in Obama right now

#534 sarapuma on 06.30.08 at 7:41 pm

# 527 Taffy

Imagine how badly Wall Street would be doing if Obama had been president for the last eight years!

#535 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 7:41 pm

#529 faye4Hill~Remember when they announced that there was going to be an “image” change, beginning with Michelle. She went on “The View” to kick it off. It looks like strategy is getting noticed and reviewed.

#536 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 7:41 pm

#351 ClintonRules – YOU rule! Great story! I am just catching up after work and found your post.

#537 faye4hill on 06.30.08 at 7:41 pm

#531 DancesWithPumas on 06.30.08 at 7:35 pm kos is a shill for obama

THESE KIDS AT DAILYHATE USED TO KISS OBAMA,S ASS AND HATE –CLINTON,S

NOW — i see comments of some saying“wish ,clinton had won “`

I mean ,,,that makes me happy ……at least they realize (little late)what is best for our country…

#538 jane-pa on 06.30.08 at 7:42 pm

I just got an email from dems to buy a shirt for 30.00 donation. I sent back no to that but will if its a Hillary one saying I won the votes.

#539 goodcitizen on 06.30.08 at 7:42 pm

Sun shines after the rain. I believe in sunny days ahead. Hillary will be the best leader we need badly! That day will come.
Don’t forget to post other major media sites, such as CNN, etc. That’s kind of PUMA’s free ad.

#540 faye4hill on 06.30.08 at 7:42 pm

#535 Jeremy

yes –now some of the dailyhate bloggers are actually regretting thier decision and wishing “what if clinton had won “`

#541 jane-pa on 06.30.08 at 7:42 pm

it says not paid for by special interest.

#542 EWard on 06.30.08 at 7:42 pm

#442 antifish

The voter registration drive by *61′s group in the South, I wonder if it is tied to ACORN? I do not trust his people. Remember the story in LA, where dead people and pets were registered? The troops for *61 cannot be allowed to game the system again.

#543 bjbeejos on 06.30.08 at 7:43 pm

Obama is the new John Kerry of 2004.

#544 sarapuma on 06.30.08 at 7:47 pm

ACORN is a extreme leftist criminal group. No doubt they are involved in O’s registration drives.

#545 mini vee on 06.30.08 at 7:50 pm

I just got a call from the CO. democratic party. The guy asked me if I’d like to volunteer for BO and Udall. Uhhh, like HE** NO! The guy said “I guess you’re voting Republican and down ticket?” I said yes, and told him that I’m an ex Democrat and to put PUMA next to my name. I then hung up. Sorry, couldn’t help myself. I know PUMA are a little more refined. My bad.

#546 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 7:51 pm

Hey everyone, just wanted your approval on my letter to Governor Rendell about the new “Hound” site.

I thought he might need a little help? I thought it important to not only validate the site and be helpful, but mirror the image they are trying to portray:

……………………………………….

Dear Governnor Rendell:

After visiting your new “Hound” blog site, I could not have been more impressed with how clever I found it to be – and from such a distinguised Governor, such as yourself.

PUMAS need to be chased down, their blog sites skinned down to a blank page, then hung up on a blog post for the whole unified democratic party to see!

Governor, you sure picked the right mascot for this endeavor. Hounds are reeeeal hunters; they can track down the scent of a PUMA in Texas, while sitting on their butts in a kennel cage in Chicago.

Dang boy! I can’t tell you how excited we all are that yur goin after them PUMAS!

In fact, we want-a hep-ya’ll out all that we can, so we had a little meetin last night and thought, ‘Well, the only thing we can contribute is the one thing that they’re gonna need when they head out into them thar cyberspace woods.’

Guvvvv – you gotta have “handles”! You wouldn’t want a get out there and do a Dick Cheney? If you know what we mean? Hee, hee, snort, snort… yee, haw!

So, we come up with some reeeelll authentic huntin names for ya’ll… and made ‘em reeeeal easy to remember:

eddie-bob
yee-haw-bob
teddie-bob
donna-bob
nancy-bob
barack-uh-bob
michelle-uh-bob
bill-bob
jimmy-bob
john-bob
al-bob
general-bob
patti-bob

… you get the picture… just add “bob” to whoever signs up for the hunt and I am sure you’ll get all them PUMAS picked off in no time….

…and with not one good-ole’ democrat gettin a pellet of buck-shot in either one of their two-faces…. hee, hee, snort, snort… yee, haw!

Guvvvvv. I just have a couple of questions…

Has Barack-uh-bob told ya’ll the plan? I mean, what ya’ll gonna do when you get out there?

Do ya have any idea how many of them damn PUMAS there are? They got dens poppin up everwhere!

Hells, bells eddie-bob… they’re multiplyin like rabbits!

…hee, hee, snort, snort… yee, haw!

#547 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 7:53 pm

LOL mini vee i probably couldn’t help myself either

#548 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 7:53 pm

412 Cosmeta
Don’t you dare stop writing what comes to you. I always read your stuff.
What is missing in blogging and emailing is human voice inflection and facial expression. This is why things are misinterpreted sometimes. It is not what was typed, it is what we can’t see and hear that can make our point clearly.
You haven’t done anything wrong. TYPE ON MAMA!!

#549 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 7:56 pm

For those who can not find their posts on Greta – make sure you are looking the right place for them. I had a heck of a time finding mine, but it was at the Top of a page. Apparently the newest posts are on top.

#550 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 7:56 pm

Ok i have been trying to read everything but wow it will take me forever. I signed that petition at the top a while ago. I love those petitions and am sighned up for them all. Now what of great importance have i missed that i can help with????? oh and does anyone have the web-site to HOUND i want to see what has been written in there and just maybe leave abother reply

#551 Battle for the Hill on 06.30.08 at 7:57 pm

several pages of interesting reading, here’s the direct link…you need to scroll down:

http://larrysinclair0926.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/chicago-packet.pdf

#552 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 7:57 pm

I had it written down but dang i can’t find it. I am GROWWWLLLING

#553 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 7:58 pm

#545 wontbackdown … ok, I won’t send it over.

#554 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 7:58 pm

i know it is http://www.HOUND something / something / :)

#555 EWard on 06.30.08 at 7:59 pm

#379 MarylandPuma

Great letter in response to *61′s patriotism speech.

#556 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 7:59 pm

sandipuma, did you check out the growl to send your letter offering to be the nominee for the DNC? ;-)

#557 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 8:00 pm

ok are we supposed to be writing in Greta Wires blog???

#558 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:00 pm

I think it is http://www.pa-dems.com/hounds

I think… only been there twice.

#559 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 8:01 pm

no i didn’t ops i better do that i’m a bad girl for a minute

#560 nightsky on 06.30.08 at 8:01 pm

I’m trying to catch up on the blogs. I loved Bob Schieffer yesterday when he called Clark out when Clark was saying McCain is not ready on day one, but Obama was . And I really laughed when Bob said Hillary was very ready. Clark was an A**.

By the way Joann fabrics is having a sale on flip flops @ 50 cents a pair. I bought several pairs. I thought I’d send them to CNN and MSNBC and several other places with the info on BO’s flip flops taped on them.

#561 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:02 pm

http://www.padems.com/form/hound

#562 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:02 pm

Hounds: http://www.padems.com/form/hound

#563 MountainSong on 06.30.08 at 8:03 pm

It should be clear to everyone by now that HBO will say anything, flip-flop on anything, and do anything to get elected. Everytime he is criticised about anything he immediately makes some lame excuse like a little child. And his supporters are even worse. I have no doubt at all that the vandalism of cars in the Orlando area was the work of his supporters in an attempt to smear the PUMA’s , who have no need to resort to such tactics.
I am even beginning to suspect some of the bloggers her as being written by covert Obamabots.
Obama literally had it made at the beginning of the year, but then it all went to his head and he just couldn’t shut up. He has to say something about everything whether it’s important or not.
By now, the ONLY apparent reason for anyone to vote for him is BECAUSE he’s black, because he certainly doesn’t stand for anything. No military or leadership exerience at all. Lousy attendance in the Senate. And we all know that if you don’t stand for something, then you will fall for anything. How did he con his way through Harvard? Was he an affirmative ation student?
Oh, well, let him keep talking and by November no one will want to vote for him for ANY reason, even if he is half-black.

#564 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 8:03 pm

Thank you Won’tBackDown hugs

#565 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:05 pm

#563 sandipuma… you’re more than welcome!

#566 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 8:05 pm

#545……….OMG, you are you dang funny! I LOVE IT!

#567 gojoyknocks on 06.30.08 at 8:06 pm

This whole mess could have been avoided if only Howard Dean’s parents had been taller.

#568 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:07 pm

545

harry bob

#569 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 8:10 pm

Someone on Greta just asked how they can find out more about PUMA and I posted our addy for her.

#570 scathcart on 06.30.08 at 8:10 pm

Cosmeta, Please don’t leave. I don’t blog much but enjoy all of your posts.

#571 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:10 pm

You know, I ordered cards with PUMApac.org. Do you think given the “vandalism” garbage, these are ok to pass out?

I think it is interesting that we were contemplating this action 3 days ago on this site and then they hit back with sabatoge?

I suppose there is nothing we can do about what they do?

………….

#567 goandersen

Geeeze, how could I have forgotten harry-bob! And then, you know they’ll be taking the press with them!

#572 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 8:10 pm

This is the tone over at DailyKos. faye4hill gave link upthread and I went in to read some of the comments.
This one in paticular caught my attention:

“All of us want Obama to win. So when we see him repeating the same mistakes as Kerry did in 2004 I think it is our duty and our responsibility to point that out, in hopes that we’ll see some changes.

The underlying problem seems to me to be that the Obama campaign is now scared of the media. They were at their best when they campaigned without that fear. They seem to think they can get better coverage if they do what they think the media wants – problem is the media is so far up McCain’s ass that there’s literally nothing Obama can do to change that.

So he needs to outflank them, not play their game.”

So now the Media is Barack’s problem??? Uhhhh???

#573 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:13 pm

#571 Jeremy… where have these people been? Locked up in a blog room attacking Hillary supporters and now that she’s gone, us???

#574 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 8:14 pm

#568 middle age female – excellent! I don’t think my post got on there.

#575 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 8:15 pm

I could use some help over at Greta.

#576 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 8:16 pm

“573 Dragonfly on 06.30.08 at 8:14 pm #568 middle age female – excellent! I don’t think my post got on there.”

What time did you post it, and what name did you use?

#577 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:17 pm

mine got on there @ 7:46 : OhNoYouDidnt

#578 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 8:17 pm

#572 wontbackdown~ reading the first “cracks” in the Teflon is sweet. I only hope it is not just a “blip” on the radar screen of eyes that were wide shut now opening .

#579 mzebest on 06.30.08 at 8:19 pm

Fox News is talking about Clark’s claim that McCain isn’t qualified and Juan Williams (on Fox News) made the analogy of Obama that his campaign is going down faster than a 4-year-old on a water slide in the summer.

#580 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:20 pm

570 wontbackdown
LOL!
and there is schultz-bob and kathy-bob

#581 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:21 pm

570 wontbackdown
I hope Forest Gump and Bubba don’t drink Kool-Aide.
I just couldn’t take that.

#582 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 8:21 pm

578 mzebest on 06.30.08 at 8:19 pm Fox News is talking about Clark’s claim that McCain isn’t qualified and Juan Williams (on Fox News) made the analogy of Obama that his campaign is going down faster than a 4-year-old on a water slide in the summer.

******
Juan actually said that? I thought he was a die hard democrat.

#583 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:23 pm

#565 bythelake… thabks, just playin around. Maybe with the Hounds kind of thing, they are really helping him along as he makes a fool out of himself!

I know we are all noticing that something has shifted with Mr. Shift and Shake? It is the strangest thing to warch unfold.

I said a while back on here that the more energy PUMAS out forth to his defeat, the more wobbly he’ll become… dang… I was right, it appears.

I absolutely believe they get it that there is NO WAY he can win this.

The sad part for me, even if he chooses HRC as VP, I cannot vote for her on his ticket, now. Maybe 8 months ago I would have considered it, but, not now. He pushed his antics way beyond politically acceptable.

#584 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:23 pm

#582 Middle age Female
maybe we should send no name a snorkle set to go with his flip flops

#585 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 8:24 pm

#582~ I did not hear him myself, but that sounds like Juan. I have read many of his quotes. He defended Hillary a lot after South Carolina and the race bit.

#586 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:25 pm

#583 wontbackdown
It’s called “shake n’ bake” and ” I helped”

#587 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:26 pm

beaniebobobopaluppa

#588 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 8:26 pm

#584 goanderson~ and a rubber ducky water wing.

#589 Battle for the Hill on 06.30.08 at 8:27 pm

Post your comments at Greta’s site, she’s got a huge audience:

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/all-comments/#comments

#590 hillaryistheone on 06.30.08 at 8:29 pm

I have been over there at Gretas helping out.

#591 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:29 pm

#581 goandersen… LOL!… the uh-bobs are endless, now!

At least this has a little more mileage to it than “THE SEAL”

We were just getting started on that when he yanked it completely off the earth! Plus, I really thought it had legs… a one-official-presidential-seal-a-week roll-out!

I hate it when he figures it out too quick that he flubbed another one!

……………..

#586 goandersen……… !!!!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!

#592 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:30 pm

588 jeremy
and a slip n’ slide for mo

#593 mzebest on 06.30.08 at 8:30 pm

#582 Middle age female

Yeah… he not only said that but they showed a clip of Obama apologizing for Clark’s comments and Juan said, Obama is like the kid that says he’ll hold Clarks coat and then sends him out to do Obama’s fighting. At least it was something along those lines.

#594 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:32 pm

593 mzebest
I wonder if no name was bullied as kid?? Or was he a bully himself?

#595 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:33 pm

#587 goandersen … #588 Jeremy… ok, we aren’t into the night roam, yet. My insides can’t start hurting too early!

#596 ClintonRules on 06.30.08 at 8:33 pm

Left about 100 more PUMA cards in town today. I checked some of the places where I left some yesterday and they were all gone, I even saw a few people taking some :)

I live in KY so I’m pretty sure the Clinton supporters are still ripe for the pickin ;)

#597 bmw60 on 06.30.08 at 8:34 pm

I just put these comments into the Washington Post article… hope you all enjoy… go PUMA’s

Again we hear the race bating here in the comments… we all who are not for Obama are racists… Obama played the race card in reverse and now We who do not support him and see through his rhetoric are called names… despicable name like “racist.” He has divided black and white most assuredly and he continues to do so. His supporters fall right in with his step. I would love him to unite us not divide us, but alas.. perhaps this humble person will not be enough so perhaps he will listen to the voice of maturity as seen below:

In response to Obama’s claim that Republicans will use race to stoke fear, Lt. Col Allen West, candidate for Congress in Florida’s 22 District issued this release: (Clarice Feldman)

“My advice to Senator Obama is to run as a Man and Leader, and the American people will evaluate you as such, not as a victim. This is a Presidential race, based solely on a capacity to lead the United States of America. It is not about skin tone…however, perhaps we should come to expect these immature statements.

It also seems rather humorous that the Presidential candidate who was supposed to be such a “uniter” and transcend race is the one talking about it the most. If Senator Obama was confident in his abilities and character, he would not need to create a crutch for failure. Senator Obama has just tipped his hand, any criticism of him and his policies will be directly attributed to racism. I congratulate Senator Obama for taking race relations in America back some 30 years.” Lt. Col Allen West

Posted by: Barb W | June 30, 2008 8:28 PM

Guess his patriotism can be proven by the changes he advocates

“$CHANGE $YOU $CAN $BELIEVE $IN”

Wow! Obama plans on spending another $300 million on his campaign to win the White House. This is in addition to the $142 million he has already raised and spent.

This is more money than any other presidential candidate has raised in modern history.

Wow! That’s a lot of money! Obama supporters should really be proud!

But, then all of this money, makes one wonder.

Where was all of this money after Katrina hit and his people needed food, transportation, clothing, shelter, and medical services?

Where was all of this money when his folks starting losing their homes because they couldn’t make the mortgage payments?

Where was all of this money when his people living in poverty in our cities and rural areas needed help funding schools?

Where was all of this money when his young people couldn’t afford to go to college so they could compete for better jobs?

Where was all of this money when his folks lost their jobs and needed a hand in finding new jobs, training for new skills, or just a helping hand?

Where was all of this money while his people still live in the streets, eat out of garbage cans, go without medicine, and die with no one caring?

Wow! That’s a lot of money! Obama supporters should really be proud!

#598 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 8:34 pm

Hey you two and you know who you are….are we going to get into puma mischief tonight?

#599 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:34 pm

595 wontbackdown
going over to gretawire to stop myself.

#600 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:35 pm

#593 mzebest…. good point… I think they are testing “good-cop, bad-cop” in the reverse to give him somthing to practice his “kind” side… or at least finally make one up.

#601 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:35 pm

597 bythelake
yowza!

#602 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:35 pm

#598 goandersen… i’ll come on over.

What’s the link to our new blog there?

#603 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 8:35 pm

Ruff and ready, I’m always ruff and ready….wasn’t that a cartoon? lol

My disclaimer, by mischief I am referring to blogging only.

#604 ClintonRules on 06.30.08 at 8:35 pm

and the sad part: i really do play a banjo…shhh! dont tell ;)

apparently i’m already a bitter racist…i couldnt live with myself if they added banjo player to the list! lol…

So…I guess we shouldn’t expect to see a resignation letter from Donna B. anytime soon? You think maybe she’s struggling to find the right words? Perhaps we should help her :)

#605 mzebest on 06.30.08 at 8:36 pm

#582 Middle age female and # 584 goandersen

Well on the flip flop front, the Fox news guy said that McCain has shot back by painting Obama as flip flopper and Juan tried to then say that in all fairness — McCain has flipped flopped too. But if I were able to respond to Juan, I would like to make the point that I’m ok with a politician changing his position when he realizes that the times might require him to adjust. But the difference is that Obama changes his position every day depending on which audience he’s addressing. If he’s talking to Israel then he’s against the Palestinians. If he’s talking to the Palestinians, he’s against Israel. So many examples.

#606 hillfan4mccain on 06.30.08 at 8:36 pm

A few months ago Juan Williams said he was getting death threats since did not support Bo. Then after Hill’s speech he drank the kool-aide. Maybe now after all this flip flopping he is seeing the light again! Lets hope

#607 antifish on 06.30.08 at 8:36 pm

Hi Pumas,

Just got done with dinner and clean up. Today’s posts by Cosmeta really upset me. I don’t know what happened or when. I tried to look through the blogs, but they are so long that I couldn’t find the comments that upset her. I just want to say that I hope, if we are around when someone says something mean to another Puma, we will step in and tell whoever it is that they are out of line. We cannot just sit back and allow disputes to get to the point where someone leaves out of frustration. We are a team and we must look out for each other. OK, I needed to say that.

#608 Margaret on 06.30.08 at 8:36 pm

I am so angry for a few reasons…
1) I just watched Jim Lehrer’s program on pbs, and the topic was about “all of these blog sites that are coming out about the candidates” They asked a lot of questions but really didn’t answer any of them, but they definitely showed that the main stream media are getting worried because we don’t have to rely on them anymore. One guy said that this is all so knew that it’s a real learning experience and that they will have to keep trying to sort out the truth from rumors until they figure out how to “control this thing”..Sorry MSM but you have lost your power, thank God..

2) I went to the DNC official website to request the return of the funds I had donated to them before this mess came out. Guess what. They have a form for you to fill out for that purpose, but if you opt to use that form, they will not let it go through unless you check a box that states that you would like to receive emails from them and to give your email address…there are a lot of people who don’t know that they will use that information to try to solicit funds for Obama. I will just send my request in writing.

June 24, 2008
3) “Today the Democratic Party is filing a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in to compel the Federal Election Commission to investigate McCain’s decision to unilaterally withdraw from the matching funds program…”
Old Chicago politics all over again…

#609 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:37 pm

#597 bythelake… (#600 goandersen) Oh crap… it’s the other “trouble maker”… see what you started “goandersen”!!!

#610 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 8:38 pm

Hey Murphy,

Let’s EBAY PUMA GEAR! Nothing like WORLD WIDE EXPOSURE!

That’d fry Meg Whitman VP hopeful!

#611 Pretjene on 06.30.08 at 8:38 pm

What I am struggling so hard to understand is how the Obama supporters are STILL being so RUDE so matter of fact, Hillary LOST so come with us! I can’t handle the arrogance! IT will be worth whatever McCain has in store just to PREVENT Obama from stealing this Presidency like he stole the nomination from Hillary! Now they are saying hateful things like LOOK even Hillary figured out who is more qualified to beat McCain, can’t you stupid supporters of hers figure it out as well? I am like OH, Okay…HRC is DOING a service to Obama to retire her campaign debt so she is able to go again in 2012! Otherwise she will not have the resources to run again. I will NEVER vote for Obama because of the crassness of his supporters, and HIM its too much!

#612 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 8:39 pm

It took me a whole day to recover but it was so good!

#613 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:39 pm

608 wontbackdown

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/all-comments/#comments

what did I start?? YOu guys always blame me….LOL!

#614 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:40 pm

#610 bythelake… now that is creative! (ebay) lots of exposure!

#615 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 8:40 pm

Three Blind Mice, or is it the blind leading the blind? Who’s the ringleader?

#616 hillaryistheone on 06.30.08 at 8:40 pm

I just think we all need to stick together and quit thinking of ourselves!!

I admire all people on here, each have their own contributions, and that is what makes us great!!

#617 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:41 pm

#612 goandersen… Thanks for the link…

….somethings… I just cannot tell a lie… (LOL!)

#618 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 8:41 pm

Oh Oh, let me! I’m an EXPERT! Get Murphy’s permission!

#619 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:42 pm

#614 bythelake… gretawire is calling…. if I can find my stick and my way over there!

#620 Margaret on 06.30.08 at 8:43 pm

Murphy, any way you could super impose a puma looking down on him with his nose pressed against his face, with the caption from Nobama saying, “Go ahead. You’re going to get me eventually anyway.”

#621 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:43 pm

605 mzebest
for real.
The Demo pony is a disgrace at this point. I am sure the entire world is wearing depends as they watch the show.
Good Grief!

#622 Hillmania on 06.30.08 at 8:43 pm

Does anyone dislike Ed Shultz as much as I do? He’s on Campbell’s show right now saying that Bill is the one that has a lot to do to prove himself and that BO doesn’t need him or Hillary because he’s breaking out in the polls.
He is delusional!
Does anyone know where we can write to him? He’s been a Hillary and Bill basher since the primary and I have a few things I want to say to him. He’s on all the cable shows mouthing off a lot.

#623 antifish on 06.30.08 at 8:44 pm

#615 hillaryistheone,

Yes, that was what I was getting at in my post. Thanks.

#624 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:44 pm

#615 hillaryistheone … I’m sorry, hillaryistheone, we are truly, affectionately kidding around with each other! (we were all into our kid-suits the other night)

#625 Beca4Hillary on 06.30.08 at 8:44 pm

Okay, this is Waco!

Bolton: Israel Will Strike Iran if Obama is Elected

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:32 PM

By: Rick Pedraza Article Font Size

Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton believes Israel will stage a raid against Iran’s nuclear facilities if Democratic nominee Barack Obama wins the upcoming presidential election in November.

Bolton, often labeled a resolute neo-conservative, believes the Israeli attack would take place sometime between the day after Obama’s win and his inauguration on January 20 of next year.

In an interview with FOX News, Bolton says, “I think if they are to do anything, the most likely period is after our elections and before the inauguration of the next President.”

Bolton reasons Israel won’t be able to hold off a strike on Iran any longer than that given the Illinois senator’s intended foreign policy toward the Islamic Republic.

“I don’t think they [the Israeli government] will do anything before our election because they don’t want to affect it,” he says, adding, “They’d have to make a judgment whether to [strike] during the remainder of President Bush’s term in office or wait for his successor.”

Bolton points to Obama’s statements in which he says he would engage Iran in direct talks and take the military option for dealing with Iran’s quest for nuclear weapons off the table, a position he believes will further embolden Tehran to build a nuclear bomb.

In a related interview with The Telegraph, Bolton says he believes Arab countries will support an Israeli strike, effectively ending Iran’s nuclear ambitions, while publicly denouncing it.

Their reaction, he tells the British paper, “will be positive privately. I think there’ll be public denunciations, but no action.”

Bolton thinks Israel may consider postponing the attack, however, if Senator John McCain, R-Ariz., emerges as the victor in the presidential race. He says McCain’s stance on Iran “is far more realistic than that of the Bush administration.”

Bolton doubts Iran would respond immediately with a counterstrike of its own, partially because Tehran would fear an American reprisal.

Earlier this month, Israel held a massive air force exercise over Greece that U.S., Israeli and Greek sources later confirmed was a test run for a strike on Iran’s main uranium enrichment plant.

© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

#626 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:45 pm

619 Margaret
Or no name calling for the Hound to rescue him.

#627 mcr on 06.30.08 at 8:45 pm

Re: Fox: The O’Reilly Factor, 6-30-08

In the discussion, Juan Willams said in effect that the Obama and his Team’s are dripping with corruption. Very descriptive!

#628 antifish on 06.30.08 at 8:45 pm

Contact Ed Schultz. Oh, I despise him.

http://www.edschultzshow.com/contact/index.asp

#629 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 8:46 pm

#476 – what has obama done??????

absolutely nothing……………but he sure lies a lot

#630 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 8:46 pm

#608 Margaret … thanks for the post!

#631 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:46 pm

621 Hillmania
Yeah, let’s send out the puma mutants

#632 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 8:46 pm

Schultz has been on the Obama express from the beginning. Great to see Greta is letting in our posts. Murghpy have you tried posting anything yet.

#633 Pretjene on 06.30.08 at 8:48 pm

Boy CNN really lays it on for Obama! HOW do they KNOW what Bill Clinton said to that PIG? I am so sick of the media who drove this campaign into the ground I could throw up! I hope that all yall are like me and it just makes you that much more determined to see this guy LOSE!

#634 Goalucard4Hill on 06.30.08 at 8:48 pm

FRED 344 – sorry I just got to your post – I like the idea of giving out a free gift but not necessarily with a flyer – I have done many thousands of trade shows in my long life – we always had a booth to draw attention to us – BUT – if we let them sign up with their business card for a DRAWING for a free gift – had to hire someone to just send catalogs to these people – what I am suggesting is that if we can get people to our site here – referring to the gift prize that will be given out in two weeks – a TV, a Toaster, A curling Iron – a Puma Mug anything – maybe once they sign on and start reading what we have to say – we will convert – any thoughts Pumas – probably more work for poor Murphy that when they sign up they have to put in a code like PumaPromo or something…

Drac

#635 antifish on 06.30.08 at 8:49 pm

#621 Hillmania,

I doubt that you’ll have much luck with the great bloviator, Ed Schultz. He’s so full of himself, that he’s not going to listen to anyone who doesn’t agree with him. I used to listen to him on Air America before the primary, but I never really liked him. Now, I can’t stand him.

#636 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:49 pm

624 beca
This is a GOP strategy aimed at no name. I think it is a political ploy. Don’t you?

#637 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 8:49 pm

Let’s see if she does anything on her show tonight.

#638 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 8:50 pm

C-Span2 is broadcasting a focus group iterview talking about Democrat primary and who supported Hillary in primary (most) and the ones that did said they supported her 100% over Obama. Asked why she lost, all said the media except one who didn’t know why she lost. All said she was smart and ‘had the goods’ to run the country. Only one said they would vote Obama, but only because she said she was supporting him. I heard this group was set up by the Obama campaign to see how much they need the Clintons support. Several said if he chooses her they will vote for him, but some say they don’t trust him and will not vote for him. Several said they would if he picks her for vp.

C-Span reruns these programs several times, so you might want to watch for it to run again later.

#639 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 8:50 pm

Puma’s get over there and post away. Now’s the time to let her know how many of us are out there.

#640 PA4HILL08 on 06.30.08 at 8:50 pm

Puma Alert!

Just uploaded today’s Daily Growl to the PP Action Center website at:
http://pumapacusa.org/

#641 antifish on 06.30.08 at 8:51 pm

#632 Goalucard,

I like the idea. But, you’re right, it will be more work for Murphy. She’ll have to decide……

#642 ladyhawkke on 06.30.08 at 8:51 pm

#270 You’re right. I’ve heard that Rudy Guiliani has the Whitey tape and that he plans to release it after the Convention because they don’t want to run against Hillary.

#643 piepiepie75 on 06.30.08 at 8:51 pm

My friend sent a campaign question to Obama’s campaign. He got a bot answer (of course) and then a few days later got an “answer” to his question.

The answer? “Thank you for your question, click hear to donate to the Obama campaign.” Now he has to change his e-mail address because he’s getting flooded with e-mails from the Obama campaign.

Seriously, does his campaign thing about ANYthing but money?

#644 Pretjene on 06.30.08 at 8:51 pm

http://www.padems.com/action/forum

Guys this is the forum for the PA Democrats, they think MURPHY is a REPUBLICAN! WE have got to get the message out there, and why Obama can’t be President!

#645 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 8:52 pm

okay dokey wontbackdown

#646 Beca4Hillary on 06.30.08 at 8:53 pm

#634 goandersen,
Indeed it is, but you never know since Israel is not happy about Obambi’s church and bashing the jewish community.

#647 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:54 pm

Can I put some electrical tape over those nostrils??

#648 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:55 pm

643 beca
All of this is so why we need our Hillary. Lordy

#649 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 8:55 pm

#640 If Rudy somehow got the tape then there has to be someone else who can get that tape. There has to be some young reporter who wants to land that story.

#650 antifish on 06.30.08 at 8:55 pm

I got a snail mail from the Obama campaign asking for money today. I didn’t even return the form, just stuck a Puma bill in the pre-paid envelope and sent it back!

#651 antifish on 06.30.08 at 8:56 pm

goandersen,

What mischief are you up to tonight?

#652 tree on 06.30.08 at 8:57 pm

I’ve been lucky, since the beginning when Obama started at Hillary’s site I unscribed, so I dont get anything from anyone which is great, however I do miss getting the letters from Hillary, so I’m sorry for you guys who have to sort through all that junk

#653 Headclunker on 06.30.08 at 8:57 pm

This stuff is getting really crazy. That staged vandalism in Orlando may be just the beginning. I saw the post on Israel. It looks like the DNC is destabilizing the entire world with it’s bad decision. I hope Donna is happy with her little experiment in marketing an unqualified candidate.

I have been posting on other sites. Those that are not moderated have lots of trash on BO, and not limited to the issues. Nasty!

#654 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 8:58 pm

wontbackdown – you are funnier than hell – let us know what eddie-bob sends back………………………I started reading your story & choked on my iced tea……………….love it, love it, love it……

#655 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 8:58 pm

648 antifish
whatever stikes us at the time. I am trying get murphy to let me put some electrical tape over those nostrils!

#656 antifish on 06.30.08 at 8:59 pm

#652 goandersen,

The nostrils in the photo up top? I’d rather stick a couple of possum turds in them!

#657 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:00 pm

650 HeadClunker
I wonder what Donna’s mama is saying to her now?!

#658 Margaret on 06.30.08 at 9:00 pm

This is worth repeating:
On one of the posts the other night, someone said a delegate has asked that we spread the word. If Hillary doesn’t get her chance for the roll call at the convention, a lot of them plan to walk out. It made me feel better knowing that there are still higher ups that support her. I am so proud of Stephanie Tubbs Jones here in Ohio for keeping her word and not backing down. She is still endorsing Hillary.

#659 Beca4Hillary on 06.30.08 at 9:00 pm

650 Headclunker, what about Orlando? I live in Orlando.

#660 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:00 pm

Of course you can still do the duct tape after I insert the turds. :)

#661 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:01 pm

#653…ahem, I”m thinking of cleaning out the nose hairs!

#662 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 9:01 pm

Ed Schulz is on Air America radio (airamerica.com) but is actually from Mother Jones radio. His web address is ‘wegoted.com’. If anyone tries this address and can’t get to him, let me know and I will try to find his new address.

#663 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:02 pm

655 Margaret
I had a delegate ask me to let him know about directions for them to take on the floor of the convention. I told him I would pass the inquiry on. I have no idea what the game plan is though.

#664 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:02 pm

#655…..Stephanie Tubbs is a super lady! I met her in Cleveland with Hillary! She’s done a lot of good for our state.

#665 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:03 pm

657 antifish
658 bythelake
nose hairs, turds and tape. in that order?
LOL!

#666 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:03 pm

Stephanie is great, is there any site that has any info on her saying she is not backing down and is still endorsing Hillary.

#667 PA4HILL08 on 06.30.08 at 9:03 pm

Ok, this has probably been posted before but the comments by Gen. Wesly Clark about John McCain over the weekend just plain pi$$ me off. ):(

I may be a Democrat, and I used to respect Gen Clark, but that was totally uncalled for. Did Wes Clark spend 5 years in a POW camp with broken legs and shoulders/arms now so scarred from injury so that he cannot lift his arms above his head? No! I do not care how one feels about Sen McCain, if you’re a Dem or Repub or Independant – there is no reason to question McCain’s leadership abilities or qualifications to be Commander in Chief. If anyone knows what war is all about and the costs, it is McCain. Not to mention that it was just plain silly for him to say that stuff since he’s backing the empty suit, vacuous, wet behind the ears candidate! Rediculous.

I’m done venting. But being past military myself, Gen Clark’s comments made, obviously trying to score political points for his empty suit candidate, just plain rubbed me wrong. If that camp wants to debate experience, I say McCain should tell them to bring it on.

#668 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:04 pm

antifish and bythelake
it is too early for this. cool it until the moon comes out.
Ssssshhhhh..

#669 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.30.08 at 9:04 pm

Yuk – Dick Morris is suppose to be on Hannity and Colmes…..I like watching cause Sean likes to challange the Chosen One but I can not stand Dick “Clueless” Morris. He is nothing but an angry ex-employee of the Clintons. Maybe he can go to anger management classes with Donna Baby

#670 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:05 pm

Ok what is the addy to send the letter to the DNC so i can run for President???????

#671 BillieJo on 06.30.08 at 9:05 pm

I don’t know if this was posted or not, just got home from work and read this on another site. It is really great talking about PUMA! Enjoy-big, strong PUMAs.

Sunday, June 29, 2008
Why Obama & Dean Fear 4 Million!

A Message From An Independent Conservative.

This weekends PR stunt or “unity” fest underscores a problem for the presumptive Democratic nominee. The problem can be summed up in one word: PUMA.

Since the end of the Democratic primaries the DNC has been plagued by this growing group of Hillary Clinton supporters who have pledged to vote against Barack Obama and reform the Democratic Party that is clearly more interested in power than moving the country forward. In recent weeks Democratic leadership has bombarded the press with a message of unity and a fall-back to the talking points meant to divide this country such as abortion.

So how much of problem does PUMA and Just Say No Deal represent to the Obama campaign?

A huge one and here’s why:

PUMA and Just Say No Deal are comprised of Hillary Clinton’s most ardent supporters and represent what Richard Nixon once referred to as the “Silent Majority”. They are middle class values voters, the “Reagan Democrats”, who position trust, personal and religious beliefs, a profound love for their country, and political education at the forefront of their political decision making. The PUMAS embody the fighting spirit of our founding fathers, driven by a belief that our country, not our political parties, should come first.

Immediately following the Montana primaries, the Obama campaign, DNC, and Obama supporters immediately began their attempt to win back the votes of the Just Say No Deal community. Understanding that this group could lead to potential disaster for the “presumptive nominee” the Obama campaign turned the politics of “division and distraction” to win back their vote. With hours of the primaries Obama supporters websites lit up with stories viciously attacking John McCain as a womanizer who abandoned his ex-wife for petty reasons and pursuit of a more attractive companion. The stories manipulated the relationship between McCain and former Wife (who has supported McCain in every campaign) and focused on a relationship strained by horrible personal tragedies that would forever-change anyone in their positions. The stories quickly faded, but displayed a disturbing reality that the Obama campaign would stoop to the lowest levels to win back support of the Puma Community.

In the weeks that have followed, the Obama campaign and his supporters have bombarded Puma Network bloggers with messages and stories of “how a McCain presidency would overturn Roe v. Wade”. Of all the campaign issues that the Obama campaign could have chosen, they chose to garner support from the PUMA campaign by launching a campaign of fear-mongering surrounding the most divisive political issue of our time.

The message of unity from the Democratic Leadership has unfortunately worked with a majority of Hillary’s supporter, but has failed with the quarter of Hillary’s supporters who hold the power to destroy an Obama candidacy. The media, with few exceptions, has ignored this group and overlooked their strength; but Barack Obama and Howard Dean know they are in trouble.

Mr. Obama and Mr. Dean understand that Obama needs the 25% of Disengaged Clinton supporter to win the general election; a group that represents 4 million voters who would have easily changed the outcome of every election since 1988. Obama and Dean know that they must find a way to bring in new voting blocks because his base of support is simply tapped out. This Democratic primary season has brought forth the largest turnout since 1972. But as we learned in 1972, the groups who overwhelmingly support Obama are not likely to produce growth in the general election. This reality is reflected in the Obama campaigns attempts to now shore up support with the gay community and evangelical communities at the same time (it will be interesting to see how he handles this pandering).

Why Does Obama Fear 4 million?

The PUMA Community represents the most ardent, values driven and politically educated of Hillary Clinton’s supporters. They do not fall for the traditional talking points of the political parties that are meant to drive a wedge between the electorate. When McCain was attacked as a Womanizer and accused of not supporting equal pay; this community researched the issues and pointed out the divisiveness and fallacies of the accusations. When Obama and his supporters brought abortion to the forefront of their argument, the Puma community was quick to point out that historically speaking the “Overturning Roe” threat has been disproved simply by the fact that after years of Republican judicial appointments SCOTUS has shown no desire to take up the issue. Obama fears the Puma community because they are not the typical single-issue voters who will fall for rhetoric.

The Obama campaign fears the voices of these 4 million who understand the issues and fear an Obama presidency. The overlook the populist rhetoric spewed on the campaign trail and understand that Obama has offered criticism without solutions. The most dangerous threat to the Obama campaign is a large grass-roots movement intent upon educating the masses who have been mesmerized and hypnotized by the Obama’s tongue. The understand the inquality and mainpulation within the Primaries and are understand the lack of solutions presented by the anointed Obama. Moreover, they have proven that they will not be silenced. They continue to show up at Unity events and have forced the media to recognize their strength. The Obama campaign and DNC has attempted to ignore their voices and not acknowledge their strength, but the PUMA will not go away.

The next problem for the Obama campaign is fundraising. The summer months are typically the doldrums of campaign financing with most donations flowing in after the conventions. Obama flipped on his commitment to public funding because of this reason. The Obama campaign expected growth in the fundraising in May, especially in light of the heated primary race. Yet, Obama’s campaign donations dropped by 33% in May, while Clinton’s and especially McCain’s increased. The Obama campaigns understands that he must garner the support of Hillary Clinton and his donors must be willing to help her retire her campaign debt. If they don’t, there will be a backlash from even more Clinton supporters. However, Obama has no intention of pushing for a quick retirement of Clinton’s $20 million debt. He know that the PUMA community is still donating to the Clinton campaign and the sooner that debt is retired, the sooner their donations will flow to John McCain. Obama is banking on the fact that Clinton’s debt will not be retired before the conventions, thus limiting contributions to the McCain campaign by Puma’s and the spending of contributions by McCain who is taking public financing.

What Keeps Obama & Dean Awake At Night?

The fear that the PUMA community and their silent supporters will realize the power of their fundraising. If just half of those 4 million who do not support Obama were to immediately give $10 to both the McCain campaign and PumaPac, the influx of cash would spread the Puma message like a wildfire through the media while providing the McCain campaign with the extra resources they need to overcome the wealthy who have funded 60% of Obama’s campaign. If the just half of this 4 million were to contribute the media would be forced to question a campaign that they have more often referred to as a “movement”, than as the “political campaign” it is.

The Biggest Fear

In his farewell address, George Washington, highlighted and re-iterated the long time fear of Political Parties that our founding fathers shared. They understood that parties that remained unchallenged and unchecked would eventually subvert the power of the people to pursue the power of the party. This weekends love-fest of Unity and the formation of HOUND (an organization formed this weekend by Dem. Leadership to promote party unity) are representative of the very fears of our founding fathers. PUMA, whether you agree with their members personal positions or not, embodies the spirit of American Independence and the spirit of our founding fathers that our strength lies in the people, not in political parties. Dean and Obama, more than anything, fear that the PUMA and Just Say No Deal Community will renew this compact and profound idea that “We The People” not “We The Democrats or Republicans”control this nation.

The independence and liberties that this nation has embraced and embodied for 232 years will never survive if we allow party unity to overpower the American spirit. Pumas understand that and Howard Dean and Barack Obama hope that the rest of us don’t. So this upcoming independence day, embrace the beliefs of our founding fathers and when you hear the call for party unity, JUST SAY NO DEAL.

#672 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:06 pm

#658 bythelake,

By all means, remove the hairs, then we can use puma turds.

#673 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 9:06 pm

OOps, I did it again. Ed Schultz’s telephone number is 1-800-wegoted. You can call his show which is usually on in the afternoons.

#674 Headclunker on 06.30.08 at 9:06 pm

#656 Beca

Over the weekend some vandals spray painted 60 vehicles with anti-BO stuff and left cards supporting Clinton (Yes, the criminals left their business cards). I talked to the investigating officer, experssed our interest and gave him some contact info. I think it is important for PUMA to express interest and support.

#675 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:06 pm

Do you think a dumb blode like me can run??? Heck yes and i would do better than BO

#676 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:07 pm

666 1of18milforHill
Remember the movie Anger Management, when they were in the middle of the freeway singing ” I feel pretty”?
LoL! I can see brazilla, pealosi and howie singing it together after this is all over.

#677 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:07 pm

#667 Sandi,

barackobama.com

#678 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:07 pm

ops blonde wow i am dumb :)

#679 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 9:07 pm

I was able to sneak this video link in at Greta. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xhJnXl4kIA

#680 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:07 pm

#668 cut that down and post some of that on Greta’s site. it might get posted.

#681 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:08 pm

Thankyou antifish lol that was to easy :)

#682 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 9:09 pm

Just left my response at Greta’s. Getting close to 650 responses. The ones showing up are like 30 minutes behind. My post showed page 7. A lot of traffic. Hey guys(men). Just giving you a heads up. The Barack people (guys) don’t have much to say after they use up their vocabulary of “whiners, losers, and stupid threats and accusations.” Now they are going over the top with other “slurs.” They are worried. Even giving Greta flack for posting the email. Get over and post if you haven’t.

#683 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:10 pm

OK, goandersen, I’ll restrain myself for a while longer. Got my tongs out for those turds, though! :)

#684 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:10 pm

I just posted this on Greta from #668:
The following came from a story with the headline Sunday, June 29, 2008
Why Obama & Dean Fear 4 Million!

The fear that the PUMA community and their silent supporters will realize the power of their fundraising. If just half of those 4 million who do not support Obama were to immediately give $10 to both the McCain campaign and PumaPac, the influx of cash would spread the Puma message like a wildfire through the media while providing the McCain campaign with the extra resources they need to overcome the wealthy who have funded 60% of Obama’s campaign. If the just half of this 4 million were to contribute the media would be forced to question a campaign that they have more often referred to as a “movement”, than as the “political campaign” it is.

#685 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.30.08 at 9:12 pm

#673 goanderson
Yeah – but Howie Beanhead doesn’t sing he just screams….new kind of democratic rap! :)

#686 ladyhawkke on 06.30.08 at 9:12 pm

#596 I’m sorry but I don’t know how to get the PUMA cards made up. Do I just get the picture of it and then send it to a place like Vista? I think that’s a place that does cheap cards. Also, with regard to the flyers, I noticed there was a lot of color in them and my printer eats up ink. What is the most inexpensive way for me to get our message out?

#687 Hillmania on 06.30.08 at 9:13 pm

Antifish,
Thanks for the web address. I know he’s hateful and won’t listen but I’m going to write him anyway. He thinks we Hillary supporters are all going to come around eventually but he’s got another think coming and I’m sick and tired of him dismissing the Clintons.

#630 goandersen, I agree with you about sending the puma mutants so here’s Ed Shultz’s e-mail address again (thanks to antifish) if anyone else wants to write him:

http://www.edschultzshow.com/contact/index.asp

#688 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:14 pm

676 middle age female
Great move! She will love that one.

#689 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 9:15 pm

Comment by Paula
June 30th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
I have been reading the PUMA since the beginning, and I usually never blog, I just LOVE to read them, and I silently join in the actions. This, however, appears to have done wonders with getting our PUMA word out, which is what it is all about at this point. LOTS of new members who have had it with the DNC.

********

Interesting post on Greta. Murphy may be really busy before the night is over.

#690 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.30.08 at 9:15 pm

#675 sandipuma
I did not send my ltr cause they would not even consider me cause I am too experienced, dedicated, loyal, patriotic, wear pantsuits and oh yeah I’m a WOMAN! lol :)

#691 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:15 pm

680 antifish
I don’t wanna go to the puma pen yet…l :(

#692 Beca4Hillary on 06.30.08 at 9:15 pm

#671 Headclunker,
I saw it on the news this morning, but I did not know that they left Hillary’s business cards. I noticed that they wrote “Obomo”, not Obama. They also wrote McCain’s name on it.

#693 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 9:16 pm

#685 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:14 pm 676 middle age female
Great move! She will love that one.

*******

I have been slipping in our web addy every so often also.

#694 Beca4Hillary on 06.30.08 at 9:16 pm

Murphy,
Do we have flyers in Spanish? I would like to go to parking lots in Hispanic areas on my days off.

#695 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:18 pm

Murphy has Greta called you today about her blog.

#696 BillieJo on 06.30.08 at 9:19 pm

I just got home, haven’t had time to read all these posts, what is ‘Greta’ you are all talking about?

#697 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:19 pm

Nose hair pluckers….hedge trimmers…might be some stubborn ones up there….

#698 Margaret on 06.30.08 at 9:19 pm

#660 goandersen:
I am sure the post I read said they had asked us to pass the word, but I don’t know who the persons source was.
#663 vadaryl:
Yes there is a youtube video I watched the other night, I’ll go there and find it for you. I’ll be back with the link.

#699 InuHanyou1701 on 06.30.08 at 9:19 pm

I just got an email from Tom McMahon of the Democratic Party. This was my response.

Dear Mr McMahon.
Until the Democratic Party gets their act together and stops employing Republican type tactics and bullying tactics, you will not get one cent from me. I support Hillary Clinton for President because she is the only candidate with actual experience. Compared to her years of public service, Barack Obama proves to be a very weak candidate. The fact that he was selected by the people in power as opposed to being elected by the people of the party is unforgiveable. (And yes, the people of the Democratic Party did elect Hillary Clinton. She won the popular vote in case you have forgotten) I will be voting for Senator McCain in November as a way of illustrating to the Democratic Party just what happens when you push people around. As someone who was bullied throughout my entire childhood in school, I don’t tolerate this kind of crap anymore. Good day to you sir. Have fun with your tee shirts and good luck with your campaign this November. You’re going to need it.

Jackson

InuHanyou1701
PUMA Democrat
Phoenix, AZ

#700 diva2 on 06.30.08 at 9:19 pm

#626 mcr. I sent a link earlier which is african american republicans. Juan Williams has written about on it. I have always liked that guy — he has seemed one of the fairest reporters. The link is http://www.nbra.info. I heard someone from this site talk on POTUS today which made me go to the site. They have some good info on noname’s voting record.

I never in a million years thought I would EVER be associated in any way with the Republicans. Guess I taught myself a lesson! : )

#701 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 9:20 pm

#691 Beca4Hillary

There are spanish flyers on the action pac page, if you scroll to the top you’ll see the link on your right

#702 Headclunker on 06.30.08 at 9:20 pm

Got this from the Townhall:

Nancy Pelosi just said “yes” to the Fairness Doctrine that could muzzle Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and other conservative radio talk show leaders.

Pelosi is now clearly on record supporting government censorship of our free speech rights. She also insinuated that The Broadcaster Freedom Act wouldn’t see the light of day, and added there is strong, support for a revival of the “Fairness Doctrine.”

Our friends at the Media Research Center have launched a national petition to counter this and overwhelm her with a message that grassroots Americans want their Free Speech Rights defended and protected from government intrusion.

Already, over 100,000 citizens have signed. Please go here to have your name added to this vital petition.

Again, Pelosi made it clear that she will work to silence the voice of conservatives on the airwaves through the fairness doctrine.

Please take action.

Grassfire.net Services

#703 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:21 pm

687…..lol….oh malone, stereotyping

#704 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:21 pm

They are up to 7 pages now of posts on Greta. Now is the time PUMA’s get out there and speak up. Be on the record. She may have to address it. Free air time go for it.

#705 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 9:21 pm

On the C-Span focus group they did an exercise where they were to choose who they would want to lead them out of a forest if they were lost: Hillary -5, McCain – 4, Bill Clinton – 1. Who would they not want to lead them our of the forest – Dick Cheney – 1, Obama – all the rest. BO is in trouble.

#706 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:21 pm

#694 bythelake,

Do you need my weedeater?

#707 matt2008A on 06.30.08 at 9:24 pm

The posts at Gretawire are getting really heated. Some of the Obamabots are really nasty and childish. Nice to know I’m talking with intellegent people here!

I have relatives in Orlando, where the alleged HRC supporters defaced the Obama vehicles. They were saying that the people who did it were actually Obama supporters trying to make it look like Hillary Supporters.

I don’t know if its true or not, does anyone have an article of link relating to that?

#708 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:24 pm

#696 Inu,

Way to tell him. That’s a great letter! As usual. :)

#709 InuHanyou1701 on 06.30.08 at 9:25 pm

Also got an email from BHO. Here was my response (This one irrirated me a little more so my response was a bit snippier)

Dear Senator Obama,
You will absolutely be getting my help. That is, in making sure that McCain defeats you in November. How dare you, sir, ask for my help after bullying Hillary Clinton out of this race. How dare you ask for my help after doing absolutely nothing to stop the sexist attacks by the media against Senator Clinton. How dare you ask for my help after taking advantage of a desperate situation for the people of this great country just to further your own selfish career. The Clintons are who this country needs desperately right now. Not you. I will be working very hard over the next few months with the PUMAs to ensure that you are not elected in November. Hopefully the Democratic Party will wake up and see that you will never win as long as the people still have a say! Good luck with your campaign, you’re going to need it. You’ll be getting absolutely NO help from me!

InuHanyou1701
PUMA Democrat
Phoenix, AZ

#710 sarapuma on 06.30.08 at 9:25 pm

Of course Bush will strike first ifb Obama is elected.

Duhhh

Real leaders act

#711 PA4HILL08 on 06.30.08 at 9:25 pm

BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAA!!!

Looks like Dick Morris dyed his hair! Sorry Dick, doesn’t help.

#712 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:25 pm

I know they are nasty but let’s get that exposed to. The more they act that way, Greta may have to address that too. Obama does want that exposed.

#713 matt2008A on 06.30.08 at 9:26 pm

I think the so-called fairness doctrine violates 1st amendment rights. I think the Supreme Court would have a field day over it.

#714 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:26 pm

#706 post that on Greta.

#715 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:26 pm

well that didn’t work i need the e-mail addy to send my letter to Howie to be President?????

#716 Beca4Hillary on 06.30.08 at 9:26 pm

#698 TrishfromCanada,thanks

#717 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:27 pm

703 antifish
Oh just put some Nair up there!

#718 TajM on 06.30.08 at 9:27 pm

I just left my post on GretaWire. I tried to make a clear, reasoned argument. We need to stop being portrayed as bitter sore losers. We are Americans who refuse to put party above country!

Hillary ’08
Hillary ’12
Hillary Forever

#719 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:27 pm

Hey antifish, now there is another good idea! Why stop at nose hairs, I think he needs a new do!

#720 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 9:27 pm

#704Matt2008A~Did you see how many pages the post had filled? Curious. It was at 7 when I posted. Yep, when I left, the comments were getting snarky big time.

#721 Lizabeth on 06.30.08 at 9:27 pm

I have been reading that many of the Anti-Obama blogs were compromised. I also listened today to a radio interview with Larry Sinclair and what transpired after his, Press Conference, last week. I am horrified at what is happening in this country and what is happening to our right to freedom of speech.

I believe we are fighting for more then our appreciation for a candidate, and our view that she was robbed of her rightful place. I believe we are fighting for our Constitutional Rights, our way of life, what we have been blessed to have for centuries. That’s how important I think this election is, it’s about our FREEDOM!!! This is no longer a fight for one person, it is a fight for “WE THE PEOPLE” and all that we may have taken for granted for many years. Today, those rights are being spat upon by those who would like us to follow their lead, fall in line. These people believe we are too “spoiled” and too “lazy”, too involved with “American Idol” to notice that our rights are being deluded, softened, and soon to be eradicated.

I for one, will never vote for someone who has no resume to lead this nation. I for one, will never be swayed by words, because life has taught me, that words without actions mean nothing. It’s that simple.

As for the D.N.C., in my opinion they never thought for one moment that we would have the courage to stand up and say…”Hold on, I saw that………..that is not how I KNOW, Democracy works, and although, you are the party that I have been a member of for many years, in that one blaring moment, you told me that you have become, corrupt, and I chose not to follow your lead.

Dr. Dean, you in your arrogance, thought we were incapable of, rising up and calling you on what you have sponsored in our party. We have noticed, we will not stand by and allow you to sneak away for a lunch break, and violate our rights.

PUMA let them hear our roar of protest, our roar of indignation. You have waken us from our sleep and we will not be silenced.

#722 DancesWithPumas on 06.30.08 at 9:28 pm

#668 billiejo… interesting post. What is the source/site of that piece?

#723 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:28 pm

Like i said i’m blonde i need to send Howard Dean my ap to be running for President

#724 nutmegbelle on 06.30.08 at 9:28 pm

Any suggestions on how to deal with a guy at work who drank too much Kool-Aid? He wears his stupid pin with his stupid grin, yet can offer nothing of substance as to why he is voting for him. On top of that, someone who can’t even vote in this country is chiming in! Never has politics crept into the workplace like this, it makes me so angry. I feel like the hounds are trying to beat people into submission. Thankfully, I’m not susceptible to cults.

#725 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:29 pm

699 HeadClunker
Where is the petition??

#726 TajM on 06.30.08 at 9:29 pm

Dick Morris is just bitter because Hillary gave him an absolutely scathing review in her autobiography, “Living History.” She called him a political turncoat, prone to histronics and self-aggrandizing, and said she and Bill learned to take his advice with a pound of salt.

Hahaha, it must be embarassing for him to be ridiculed by one of the most influential and respected leaders in American politics.

#727 sarapuma on 06.30.08 at 9:29 pm

The fairness doctrine is just radical liberals trying to shut down free speech. Like FOX!

#728 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:29 pm

Up to 705 posts and he show starts in 1/2 hr.

#729 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:29 pm

You sure Howard Dean will get my ap by sending the e-mail letter to barackobama.com???

#730 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:30 pm

Nair lol! Oh woes me, my daugher asked me if I was going to stay up half the night again laughing and talking to myself…

And all this time I thought the dogs were listening…….
hoooooooowl

#731 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 9:30 pm

Greta will have to mention something about PUMA tonight, I have never seen her get so many responses in such a short period of time. http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/#comment-1299738

#732 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:31 pm

726 bythelake
give her a screenname and have her join us.

#733 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 9:31 pm

He wears his stupid pin with his stupid grin,

#720 nutmegbelle on 06.30.08 at 9:28 pm

Not a thing. Just keep saying to yourself:
“Stupid is as Stupid Does”
~Forrest Gump

#734 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:31 pm

soon they will have her on to talk about her show. Be intgeresting if she says anything.

#735 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 9:31 pm

Hey Pumas – are we still collecting sexism issues? There is an ad on TV that makes me cringe & then it makes me angry – it’s an ad for insurance that shows this ‘young college grad woman’ running around, sitting in a toilet stall, etc. all fluttery about what her deductible should be for insurance – christ – if she went to college, I would hope she learned something useful – it reflects badly on all women – WE ARE NOT STUPID…….

#736 InuHanyou1701 on 06.30.08 at 9:31 pm

#705 antifish

Thank you! I’m rather enjoying this. O:)

#737 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:32 pm

HELPPPPPPPPPPPP I want to send my AP to Howard Dean to be running for President!!!!!!

#738 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:32 pm

What and Where is gretawire? I want to play!

#739 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 9:32 pm

Here was my post on gretaWire in response to another post (I used the name: Definately United – With PUMA)

Comment by Definately United – With PUMA
June 30th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

Other Poster: I asked another blogger but no response so may I ask you the same question?… and it is
….. What would the members of PUMA do if Obama announced his choice for VP was Hillary?
Has anyone considered the possibility?

——————————–

My answer:

Too late… Obama and his campaign took this whole smear-hate-bullying thing way too far.

I was posting one night some information on an article I had read on Obama’s Chicago-style “disqualify your opponent” tactics. I was doing the laundry of an AA woman, going through a rough time — while being called “racist, “biggot” and then reported as a “spammer”.

That is when I learned the hard cold facts about the Obama strategy – the racist-vile-hatemongers calling us the racists!

8 months ago I would have considered voting Obama/Clinton. Not now. Not ever. It is a sad, sad reality. Great job, Obama Campaign and bloggers… you won the battle, lost my democratic vote and more than likely the “war” you waged on other democrats to “win the WH”! It’s Not my party, this year.

A life-long Democrat – voting for McCain. You can’t CHANGE that!

P.S. #727 Middle age female… saw your posts! excellent! Lots od PUMA Posts and others impressed!

#740 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:32 pm

my firsy letter came back

#741 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 9:33 pm

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/#comment-1299738

#742 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:33 pm

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/#comment-1299851

It takes a few minutes for your post to be posted.

#743 LisaNC on 06.30.08 at 9:33 pm

Okay. I just posted on Greta. :)
Lisa

Lisa
June 30th, 2008 at 9:21 pm

One of the best things about our democracy is that we own our vote.

Its wonderful that as democrat’s, as Puma democrat’s, as independent Puma’s we can vote
John McCain 08.

#744 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:34 pm

Never mind i will just leave i realy don’t need an answer. I am just to stupid to be a Puma

#745 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:35 pm

Bye all :(

#746 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:35 pm

Will someone give sandipuma the answer she is looking for?? I don’t have the link

#747 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:35 pm

#735 I answered that same question with I am on the fence, but if she is not I won’t vote for obama and may vote for mccain or not vote at all.

#748 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:36 pm

Howard Dean
Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003
Fax: 202-863-8174

Does this help? I faxed mine. Tomorrow I’ll probably go to my store and it will be closed down lol…..nickle double dare him lol.

#749 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:36 pm

#735 other Puma’s go over there and answer that same question.

#750 TXPuma on 06.30.08 at 9:36 pm

Nose dreadlocks with kool-aide colored barrettes!!

#751 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:36 pm

741 sandipuma
get back here! someone has to have that info. hang on

#752 InuHanyou1701 on 06.30.08 at 9:36 pm

#740 sandipuma

No one’s too stupid to be a Puma! I’m sorry I would help if I knew how to help you! *Hug*

#753 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:37 pm

I asked 5 times i guess i should not have asked. I am to upset to do anymore.

#754 nutmegbelle on 06.30.08 at 9:37 pm

#729 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 9:31 pm

Thanks, Jeremy. That Forest is a wise one. But I still might have to up my xanax intake to deal.

#755 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:37 pm

Sandi, no your not stupid. I’m trying to find the link you need. I have the action email from today. Let me hunt for you.

#756 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:37 pm

741 sandipuma

go to # 744. There is the addy

#757 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 9:37 pm

#733 sandipuma… sandy, sandy, sandy… what link??? I’ll try to find it… what link???

#758 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:38 pm

No word from greta if she will talk about the blog. Rats!!!

#759 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:38 pm

Hmmmm

#760 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:39 pm

which link do you need…I can’t find it if I don’t know which one to look for.

#761 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 9:39 pm

Comment by ziener
June 30th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
I live in NJ and in Newark, NJ people were handing out pre-paid cc to donate to Obama! The Attorny Generals Office is investigating. I wonder how many other black neighborhoods in the Country that got the pre-paid cards? I hope they can get to the bottom of this! That’s where the momey is going to………….

***************

Saw this post on Greta. Has anyone heard of this before?

#762 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:39 pm

733 sandipuma
#744 is your answer. Get back in here!

#763 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:39 pm

Flood it we got 20 minutes.

#764 sheila7 on 06.30.08 at 9:39 pm

just been to gretawire. great job everyone on your comments and your responses. it makes me proud to be a puma.

wontbackdown- just wanted to say hi, haven’t talked in a while.

#765 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:40 pm

Oh, how nice of me to have posted it, duh. I’m having your all’s blond moment!

#766 Susie1945 on 06.30.08 at 9:40 pm

#733 Sandipuma – address is:

howard dean
democratic national committee
403 s capitol st se
washington dc 20003

#767 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:40 pm

Don’t post any crap, make it good.

#768 KYkitten on 06.30.08 at 9:40 pm

@500- I love the pumapac.org site, but I think “independent” may be spelled wrong in the first paragraph- It appears to have an “a”- Is that on purpose?

@Henrietta- Cosmeta and I were talking about hypnotic effects downstairs. That is interesting, and I can see that about the rhythm and cadence as well. Certainly it’s the same song and dance each time sorry I couldn’t resist.

#769 matt2008A on 06.30.08 at 9:40 pm

I heard at HC Forum that there is an Anti-PUMA petition. Thats almost laughable. I am not quite sure what they hope to accomplish.

#770 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:40 pm

757 middle age female
Oh, that sounds like an bent-axle trick to me.

#771 InuHanyou1701 on 06.30.08 at 9:41 pm

#748 InuHanyou1701

=/ Somehow that didn’t come out as I intended it to. What I MEANT was “You aren’t stupid at all. It’s not stupid to not know how to do something so please don’t feel that you are!”

#772 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:41 pm

Now someone lead me to greta please?

#773 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 9:41 pm

740 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:34 pm Never mind i will just leave i realy don’t need an answer. I am just to stupid to be a Puma

***********

What are you looking for? No one can be as stupid as me – I had to set up a new e-mail addy for here because I could not remember what my first one was. LOL

#774 Lorelai on 06.30.08 at 9:41 pm

3. IN RESPONSE TO AN APPEAL FROM DONNA BRAZILE FOR FUNDS FOR THE DSCC, a friend writes:

“Dear Ms. Brazile, I simply cannot imagine how you think I could ever support a candidate who sat in a church which espoused black separatism, anti -semitism, and anti-feminism. AND MR.OBAMA never quit that church until last month. That’s a deal breaker for me, and do not even try to tell me that there is any evidence of leadership in that.

You pointedly found reasons not to accept Hillary Clinton as the most qualified candidate and broke the most important political rule our mamas taught us: that we answer to the entire country and not to a political party. 18 million voters have spoken, and you and Mr.Obama have chosen to disrespect us by disrespecting history: LBJ’s presidency, Bill Clinton’s presidency – just for starters!

Do not tell me that Mr.Obama needs people with whom to work. He was supposed to be able to work with everyone for “change”. Well, he certainly will not be working for me. And, you have been the biggest disappointment of all

#775 Middle age female on 06.30.08 at 9:42 pm

#768 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:41 pm Now someone lead me to greta please?

**********

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/#comment-1299889

#776 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:42 pm

Thank you Bythelake and all. I am sick and in a lot of pain and get on here and write letter after letter. I still don’t think i do enough. I will write the letter and send it from the complex office as they have a fax.

#777 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:43 pm

768 bythelake

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/06/30/puma-party-unity-my-a/#comment-1299738

#778 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:43 pm

771 maf, thank you……….i’m off……..vrooooooooom

#779 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 9:43 pm

You guys… all of you… I cannot tell you how much it hurts to be developing these “relationships here and then go through this “out-ta here stuff.

I am not trying to sound co-dependent… but HELL! I feel like I have lost my candidate and my “Party” and PUMA is the place I now come to get encouragment, take action and get a lot of courage to stand my ground on this issue.

I know how it feels to wonder “if i am being ignored”. But it is just not the case here!

———————

#770 Lorelai … good one!

#780 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.30.08 at 9:44 pm

#765 Matt2008A
Probably nothing just like what their Chosen One stands for…….NOTHING!

#781 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:44 pm

772 sandipuma
we know you are not feeling well. We also know where your heart is and we thank you for all that you are able to do right now.
Puma Paw Hugs

#782 sheila7 on 06.30.08 at 9:45 pm

wontbackdown, i feel like you’re ignoring me because i’ve said hi twice and you haven’t responded. lol. just kidding. i know you probably didn’t see them

#783 InuHanyou1701 on 06.30.08 at 9:45 pm

#772 sandipuma

Sorry to hear you’re sick! I hope you feel better. You will be in my prayers (And I’m sure everyone elses!). We can’t thank you enough for all you do even when you aren’t feeling well! If that’s not PUMA Spirit I don’t know what is! (*reads this over a few times to make sure I said what I wanted to say in the right way* X.x)

#784 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:45 pm

After 360 would not post our posts on Friday it’s great that Greta is and look at the results.

743 Responses to ““P.U.M.A” (Party Unity My A**)”

#785 TrishfromCanada on 06.30.08 at 9:46 pm

#713 Beca4Hillary

you’re welcome

#786 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 9:46 pm

#760 sheila7…. just asking about you 2 days ago! Glad you are here.

I wanted to call HRC office on the flowers… anyone hear how they were received.

I know HRC will personally respond to each one. So maybe will will just have to hear from her.

#787 mzebest on 06.30.08 at 9:46 pm

#654 goandersen

LMAO! Great comment.

#788 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:46 pm

770 lorelai

oooo: good one! Brazilla Smack Down!

#789 sheila7 on 06.30.08 at 9:48 pm

782 wontbackdown
i’ve been put of town for much needed relaxation on the lake of the ozarks.

i haven’t heard about the flowers but someone else said they were going to look into it.

i’m pretty sure she will send thank you notes so hopefully we’ll get feedback soon.

#790 Headclunker on 06.30.08 at 9:48 pm

Orlando Vandal Story

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking_news/story/587437.html

#791 ontherocks on 06.30.08 at 9:48 pm

sandipuma,
sorry you are in pain. You are doing plenty. We are getting more coverage day after day. I think all of our blogging, letter writing, emails, faxing and phone calls are really helping.
Gretas blog has 8 pages on it.
Thank you for all you do, that goes for everyone! Together we can do great things.

#792 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:48 pm

I already lost my aol for saying 2 words when i said i was a puma i should sue aol. We have no rights anymore

#793 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:50 pm

783 mzebest

I can only imagine. I know what I would be saying to her if she were my daughter! Eeewww. Oh, thank you God for not giving me that one.

#794 ladyhawkke on 06.30.08 at 9:50 pm

#660 I wonder if they will even get close to the convention. I think this whole thing is rigged and they won’t let Clinton’s delegates in.

#795 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:51 pm

786 HeadClunker
Where is the petition? “Grassfire????

#796 MsBinMD on 06.30.08 at 9:51 pm

bythelake -

If you didn’t get an answer yet -

gretawire.com or get there through the foxnews.com site.

#797 Lorelai on 06.30.08 at 9:51 pm

Friends – it’s all about the electability watch. We must write letters, once a week to 18 of our selected superdelegates (one for each million that voted for Hillary) and tell them why Hillary Clinton is our candidate and their only responsibility at the convention to vote for the “electable” candidate.
I have sample letters that I will post once I figure out this cutting and pasting stuff….but they should be respectful, “not houndful” :) and clear and concise.
We have to sound not hysterical, but clear about our beliefs and even non-threatening. We will NOT go along and Fall in Line. And, that, Mr. Obama, is a huge problem for you! I still believe in the power of implosion and that Mr. Obama is going to experience “what goes around, comes around”, but I hope it is in time to save our country from the terrible specter of his presidency. I cannot believe the Clintons are supporting him, knowing what their values and beliefs really are – but this is politics and that is why PUMA is so integral to change. The mission statement outlined by Murphy is awesome – we are about positive change with actionable steps that are capacity building – not empty promises from a man in an empty suit.
The more people learn that we are not shrill, middle aged white women who are just disappointed that we are not seeing a female in the White House, the more credibility we gain, as well. Well, that’s my two cents for tonight. More tomorrow. Have to get ready for a board meeting at 7:00 a.m. tomorrow. Thanks Pumas….

#798 Margaret on 06.30.08 at 9:52 pm

vadaryl,

Here’s the video I was talking about. It’s from June 20, 2008

http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News?pageId=3.1

#799 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 9:52 pm

#772 sandipuma… I’m sorry… I feel that way myself. I don’t think any of us would be here if we were not taking this whole thing so “personally”.

That, coupled with not feeling well is just a little too much sometimes.

Everyone here is doing what they can… some lots, some little, but it is all a contribution to the impact it is now having… it is all “enough”.

We have gretaWire, now and everyone is really excitied that we are being heard, elsewhere, more and more!

#800 BillieJo on 06.30.08 at 9:52 pm

Hey DancesW/PUMAs-718, here is the link to that article on Politically Drunk On Power: http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/
Did you post on greta’s site and say you are a republican ?

Why is everyone getting so excited to post on Greta’s site? How is it any better than here. I noticed a LOT of repeats along with BO’s fan club cuts, if it Greta bypasses as many replies as I did, not much will be read. Why did someone call it ‘free air time’? It’s just another website, right?

#801 matt2008A on 06.30.08 at 9:52 pm

#780 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:45 pm

Do u mean AC 360? Did they refuse to let you post?
If they did, I’m not really suprised, CNN is so deep in BO’s pocket, they no longer get any sunlight.

#802 sychoram_in_MO on 06.30.08 at 9:52 pm

Dear DNC,

I would love to support your fundraising cause, but since I am one of those “bitter, uneducated, racist” Hillary supporters I just cannot support your cause. Maybe the next time you decide to shove a candidate down our throats, that candidate will chose his/her words better and not make every attempt to alienate the base of the democratic party.

James
A PUMA Democrat

another fine response to the DNC and its begging

#803 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:53 pm

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has. –Margaret Mead

#804 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 9:53 pm

#796 BillieJo… fanning out for other to hear the message, the numbers, the collective voice saying “NO”

#805 Margaret on 06.30.08 at 9:53 pm

vadaryl, I’m sorry but that link didn’t bring it up. I’ll try to get the right link this time..

#806 sandipuma on 06.30.08 at 9:53 pm

I found out if we change to Independent we can’t vote Democrat or Republican. We have to vote Independent party only. A lady was standing in front of a store and had people changing from Democrat to no i forget something. She said that way we can vote for whoever this other way. And people were asking to change their party. People here are more and more against Obumbus

#807 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 9:53 pm

#799 goandersen… love that! Thanks for reminding us.

#808 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 9:55 pm

#802 sandipuma… what is so cool is that we will all know our voting rights better than ever after this and come November!

#809 sarapuma on 06.30.08 at 9:55 pm

Wooo Hooo

We Pumas are proud and we Growlll

#810 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 9:55 pm

Yes it was Anderson Cooper’s CNN 360′s blog. It was the first time tried. All I did was say was it interesting that Hillary did not use any notes and Obama did. What was so wrong with that?

#811 ontherocks on 06.30.08 at 9:56 pm

post 798

Good response.

#812 antifish on 06.30.08 at 9:56 pm

#725 Sandi,

No, don’t send it there. I was just playing with you. You know how Barack thinks he owns the party now?

Look at #744.

#813 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:58 pm

802 sandipuma
I didn’t get what you were saying about Independents. Did you say if you change to Independent you can’t vote Dem or Repbub?

#814 matt2008A on 06.30.08 at 9:58 pm

vadaryl, they are obviously afraid of the voice of reason, they have been hijacked by Obamabots since January. I have not even looked at CNN since February. I wouldn’t waste your time, they will just look stupid in November.

#815 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 9:58 pm

Wheeeee, I got a post on gretawhoever….! thanks all for the link.

#816 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 9:59 pm

#785 sheila7… lake of the ozarks! Wow!

#817 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.30.08 at 9:59 pm

#806 vadaryl
Cause they do not like to be reminded that their Chosen One can’t think on his feet….next they have him wear an earpiece so he can repeat what he is suppose to say! :)

#818 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 9:59 pm

811 bythelake
LOL!

#819 BillieJo on 06.30.08 at 10:00 pm

# 802 Sandipuma, I don’t understand what you said: “I found out if we change to Independent we can’t vote Democrat or Republican. We have to vote Independent party only. A lady was standing in front of a store and had people changing from Democrat to no i forget something. She said that way we can vote for whoever this other way.”

If some is not a registered Democrat in the Nov election, they can’t vote for a Democrat? I thought we could vote for any party in the Presidential election but not the primary. What’s the scoop?

#820 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 10:00 pm

813 1of18Mil
Just like the Shrub used to do.

#821 tree on 06.30.08 at 10:00 pm

802 Sandi,

here in Calif. we have all 3 plus a decline to state, with that we can vote however we want, I already awhile back changed to decline to state

TREEPUMA

#822 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 10:00 pm

OK Greta, give us some air time!

#823 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 10:01 pm

#806vadaryl~Does it say the comments are in moderation when you submitted or did the screen just go blank? I have sent Andy emails, but never blogged on his page. Each of my mails had a snarky reply that it would be read but not to expect a personal reply. Something to that affect anyways. In my opinion, Andy is on Barack’s leash as if most of CNN. I began my boycott of CNN after Super Tuesday.

#824 mzebest on 06.30.08 at 10:01 pm

#720 nutmegbelle

I would wait until other coworkers are in hearing range and then ask the guy, “Do you know how Senator Obama actually became Senator of Illinois?” When the guy shrugs his shoulders, enlighten them by telling him he became Senator by hiring lawyer to eliminate all his competition so that he was the only choice the voters had? Does that sound like a candidate confident of his qualifications?

#825 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 10:02 pm

comments went into moderation

#826 mzebest on 06.30.08 at 10:02 pm

#720 nutmegbelle

And if he doubts what you are saying, do a search on YouTube for “Obama plays hard” and show him the CNN report

#827 Margaret on 06.30.08 at 10:02 pm

vadaryl

Here it is….Stephany Tubbs Jones June 20, 2008

http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News/Politics/Detail;jsessionid=B6882B7588B8D18099660E4D095A2027?contentId=6806960&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.14.1&sflg=1

#828 bythelake on 06.30.08 at 10:02 pm

I did it again, just like a kid in a candy store. Dang, them nobots can sure get the juices flowing lol.

#829 goandersen on 06.30.08 at 10:02 pm

813 1of18Mil
BeaniBoBo is a puppet just like the Shrub

#830 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 10:04 pm

Folks, party affiliation does not matter in the General Election, you can vote for anyone. Party only matters in the primaries and in many states, you can ask for either Dem or Rep ballot on primary day.

#831 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 10:04 pm

#823 Margaret Thank you for the link

#832 BillieJo on 06.30.08 at 10:04 pm

I heard somewhere that BO has less than 200 days in as a senator, is that true? Less than 1 year of experience???

#833 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 10:04 pm

Well……. my browser just froze up big time… must be getting a lot of hits or murphy just slammed the gate on the BIG CELL!

#834 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 10:05 pm

#832 BillieJo… 143 days before announcing his run and running for the potus.

#835 Headclunker on 06.30.08 at 10:06 pm

#791 Petition link re #699

http://www.grassfire.net/410/petition.asp?PID=17150406&NID=1&Ref_ID=1493

#836 wontbackdown on 06.30.08 at 10:06 pm

143 days WHEN he announced his run and then started running for the potus.

#837 BillieJo on 06.30.08 at 10:06 pm

Thanks BigCat, that’s what I thought that a general election was wide open. Never voted for anyone that wasn’t a Democrat before. Will not this time either…just won’t vote unless Hillary gets a huge promotion.

#838 BigCatLover on 06.30.08 at 10:06 pm

BillieJo

Less than 200 days when he bagan running for president.

#839 Jeremy on 06.30.08 at 10:08 pm

#821 vadaryl on 06.30.08 at 10:02 pm
comments went into moderation

Don’t hold your breath waiting for it to post then. I had one of my post on the Political Ticker stay in moderation for over 24 hours. I tried to re-post because what I had to say was valid in the discussion. By that time it had the message that the post was no longer active. Frustrating.

#840 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.30.08 at 10:08 pm

#825 goanderson
Next we will be seeing an infomercial (spelling?) for the Chosen Ones speeches on DVD’s…..for the bots listening pleasure.

#841 DancesWithPumas on 06.30.08 at 10:08 pm

BillieJo,
did I miss your posting of the source for that piece by a conservative independant. I enjoyed the piecem btw.

#842