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Good morning Pumas, today is a new day! If you’ve spent any time reading comments by Obama Movement supporters (brave soul!) on other sites, then you are familiar with the Bravery, the Principled Dignity, the Selflessness, and the STELLAR Grammar and Spelling Skills of Obama’s most diligent and diehard fans. The warning sign above is a perfect depiction of our friends in the O Movement in action.
This is Join Puma Pac Weekend! The Action today and tomorrow is simple.
- Ask five friends and family to check us out and join Puma PAC to reunite the Democratic Party so that is speaks for ALL Democrats in ALL 50 States.
- Print out 50 flyers or Drop Cards from our ACTION CENTER, and distribute them in public places in your community this weekend. Get Flyers HERE.
- Contribute to Puma PAC if you can.
The party elites, the Obama Movement, and the media are waking up to the fact that they have a REAL problem on their hands. That problem is us. PERFECT.
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Good morning, still ready, get ready for a new day!
lalala….all by myself…….
Good morning, I am ready!
Morning Pumas,
Today is a new begining!
today is the Taste of Chicago, it lasts until July 5th. I am going to pass out Puma flyers when I go. Printed out 200
I’ve been up for hours reading last nights posts…wow, full of good things to do.
I watched newsclips, I read articles, I cringed over Hillary standing next to BHO, but today is another day and I will face it head on.
Will have my fingers typing away today. The media will probably block my isp…oh wait, I can write from two locations!
Go PUMAS!
Murphy, your doing a great job and are very much appreciated.
Thank you to the PUMAS who stood in the hot sun yesterday for US and Hillary. We know you didn’t stand there for BOBO!
People come from all over Illinois, Michigan, Ohio etc. It is where all the restaurants set up booths with their specialty food. There is music, art etc.
Good deal #5!
Good morning everyone! You little PUMAs have been very busy overnight! I was watching Ed Rendell on Fox last night. He is my Governor and I was so impressed with him during the primaries–he supported Hillary staunchly. I know he, like her, has to tow the party line. He even said “I drank the Kool Aid”! Anyway this made me think that maybe now is another time to have a new letter writing campaign to the superdelegates who supported Hillary saying that although we respect their allegiance to the party and the Democratic candidate we want them to know that we will not vote for Senator Obama. Then we can just state why. Perhaps a standard letter can be drafted for all PUMA’s and placed on the ACTION center. What do you all think? I know they are doing something like this at this site, so perhaps we can join that movement. http://www.charlottefrontandcenter.com/post_card_project
Terry M on Today Show right now
this is the reason why i vote for Sen. McCain if Hillary is not the Nominee. Sen John McCain is truly a Hero!
http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/former-captor-says-hed-vote-for-mccain/20080627155209990001
Good Morning PUMA Family!
Have a Great Weekend!
The real story of this election has not yet been told. The pundits are as much a part of the problem as the DNC. That’s because they accept the corrupt system as ‘just the way it is’ with no outrage or no questioning the motivation or the results.
This may very well be a turning point for our country. As we unite to try to fix the Democratic party, we are raising questions and issues that have really never been raised before. The concepts of true democracy have long languished in our electoral system.
The primaries themselves, with their built in inequities need to be put to rest. The corrupt and undemocratic caucuses absolutely need to go. The electoral college has to be replaced with a new, one person-one vote model that gives us true democracy.
Has anyone here realized what has happened in this election? I mean really understood what happened? I think we should go back and read the testimony of Carl Levin in the Rules hearing. It is very telling. In that discussion, Senator Levin talks about scheduling the primary caucuses and elections so as to make it more equitable for states with large black populations. Apparently there was some agreement or discussion in the affirmative action vein during the rehashing of the rules that led to the fiasco regarding Michigan and Florida. The black leaders in the party apparently thought this was needed so they could finally elect a black person to the presidency. It would appear, from this testimony, that the race card was played long before the election process began.
There is another issue that naggs at my mind: The issue of state sanctioned elections held on behalf of the two major parties to the exclusion of all others. With this comes the difficulty of any minority candidate to get on the ballot in all 50 states. The bar is very high, and almost inpossible to get over for anyone except the majority candidates.
Both the republican and democratic parties have become unregulated quasi governmental entities. On the one hand, they can do things their way, all the while getting state sponsorship for their election events.
The news media thrives on the horse race mentality of the elections, and promote that as a sporting event. They really do choose who they want to promote. If you write to Cafferty, Matthews, Olberman, or King, they will never read your post on the news, never let your post get out of moderation. They too have become agents of the party line.
Blogging is all we have left. And even then Huffington has manipulated some of that impact.
The news media don’t get the fact that these ‘pundits’ who are telling us over and over again that we WILL eventually come across are making us angry. They don’t understand that the manipulation and pushing is coercive and not acceptable to us.
Welcome to the new world of change. Change we can create. Change that is long over due. Change that can be credited to Obama, but not the change he is talking about.
Diane from JustSayNoDeal was on Good Morning America this morning -early- about 6:10 am CST…
Good Morning all Was watching, media now thinks Latino vote is the stopper. I think they are afraid of us and figure if they ignore us we will go away or we will give up and fall in line. I think blogging in papers are good cause they keep us off online so much but I just keep trying and will.So I am thinking we just need to be as visable as we can any way any where. Right?
I’m feeling blue.
My son’s fiancee was visiting yesterday. She has traveled for BO to campaign and do voter registration. She is a graduate student, and very socially liberal. She is nothing like the nasty, vitriolic Bots that we encounter.
She has a light in her eyes and is passionate and excited…just like I am for Hillary.
I will vote unenthusiastically for McCain because I fear the BO socialist agenda and Cult of Personality. But when (if) BO loses, there will be a world of hurt. Alot of wonderful people will be emotionally crushed.
And that makes me sad for our national spirit. It is simply amazing that this candidate of Unity and Transcendence could have caused such angst and division.
#14 Bythelake Thank you, I know you didn’t.
Dear Pumas,
In case you are interested, here a highly critical article on the Unity event in the German SPIEGEL, entitled: “Scenes of a Forced Marriage.” It is not an usual repetition of what the US MSM reports, rather the piece is well researched – the author seems to have been present. Also, the democratic dissidents are mentioned, although not by their name PUMA yet.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,562705,00.html
Doria #18. You are so right. Most, if not all, of the voters who support Obama are doing so in good faith.
This is a very sad time for the democratic party.
Also agree with #14. Thanks.
Doria 18 I understand your frustration and pain. I have lost several friends who think we should just go along, like it or not, so that we can ‘get the big picture right’. By that they mean a democrat in the White House, regardless of who it might be.
I think this is a very emotional time in our country. We have had all kinds of things happen in the last 10 years that have set us to thinking as a nation. More and more people are trying to get involved and make a difference. The question is: Who shall be our standard bearer? The media picked and promoted Obama, while the majority wanted Hillary.
My daughter’s roommate, a college student age 20, voting for the first time, likes Obama. She thinks Hillary is ‘old news’ and not relevant to the ‘new generation’ of voters. My daugher, age 21, also a first time voter is a Hillary supporter all the way. School ended before the selection of Obama, so that conflict was not as rough, but inside a family, there can be bitterness.
I wish you the best.
Heneri
The media thus far has spun the resistance to Obama /DNC as a movement of ONLY women- which of course makes it appear as though we are less of a threat because “it’s just a group of women who are angry because the woman candidate didn’t win” - and therefore, through any sexist lens, it makes us appear less significant. I think it’s imperative to continue to point out that we are men AND women and we are voters of every stripe from all across this country and we are growing in number every day…
#12
Good comment. I copied and will use in my resolve to keep fighting and to keep the faith in what appears to be insurmountable odds at times…us against the world!
Still a Dem, but still voting for McCain…no other choice yet.
#20 -
I agree and I think we should go further. I believe that it is the RESPECT FOR DIVERSITY AND PRACTICE OF INCLUSION that is at issue. I believe that America’s success as a country depends on it.
Rendell drank the kool aid
check out this link over at confluence:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
Plus Pumas, check out this article on the CNN website entitled “The Fall…and Rise of the Clinton Empire.” Quintessence: Hillary has positioned herself well fort he next round!
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/the-fall-and-rise-of-the-clinton-empire/
bostonboomer gives a wonderful reply to this farse of a site that rendell has started.
Does the DNC/BO really need clintons as he declaired in the Unity speech? If Clintons are so critical to the Democratic party, why should BO even be in the race to begin with? He is not in it for you and me, he is in it for special interests - for those want to knock down the clintons. Now they want to bend them down to help support his failure among majority of core democrats.
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!!!!!!!
#22 Diversity, Inclusion, Fairness, we represent all the tenants of a true democracy…
Certainly we all have our own feelings about why we are here…be it the DNC decision on FL & MI, the popular vote superseded by an unfair process, the sexism, the inadequacy of the “presumptive” nominee, etc. So it is important, I think, to point out that we are not representative of one reason or one group…
TRISHFROMCANADA
I got your e-mail. But, I can’t download this
Adobe reader. It says update from 5.0 to 5.5 version. Mine is 4.0. I’m sorry. But thank you for looking it up for me.
Good Morning all I woke up at 4am thinking about my husband who is so upset that Hillary is being treated this way and that our party has done this in broad daylight given an election to Obama because in his AA and they have been saying thier vote is taken for granted and it makes great media for it to be on a Historic day 45 years later to the Day of I HAVE A DREAM [aug28th1963] if only the leadership of this party were more like Martin and Bobby they would have never hurt so many people to get what they wanted .I think about being sixteen in 68 and really how far we have come and how far we have now fallen behind they use us all but most of all they use faithful women who take it to heart thier job of making this a better place for our children and grandchildren.I vote in every election and sometimes my husband say’s you go hon vote for both of us the hand full of people my girl friend and I who is my age run into at the polls if were not working them are WOMEN sorry but that is the truth.We pull our weight when it comes to voting.My husband said from now on he will be voting on every election day not just every four years he didn’t go vote for Hillary and BO won are very red state but not by much every one is learning in this election It truly is history making.
Rendell is posturing for a cabinet position he said he would be willing to accept after his term of Gov. is over…which is different from the Rendell who said he enjoys being his own boss and wasn’t interested in the VP slot or anything else….
PUMAS eat HOUNDS…don’t they?
Hounds are cute and lazy and lay around doing nothing don’t they. They do hunt prey so I will watch out for them.
#29 bluesgal
ok no problem, I’ll get what you need, I have to go out for a bit so I’ll have it for you in a few hours.
#31 dmrr - We should not listen to any of them say anything now,it is all part of the unity SHOW(Muyphy’s downstair thread). We must remember how great Gov. Rendell did during PA primary.
He could be on the ticket with HRC, I would not mind.
#34 TRISHFROMCANADA
Thank you Trish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good morning PUMA’s:
Although many of us are sad and disappointed that yesterday’s farce took place we need to take this weekend to renew our spirits and remember what we are fighting for.
I want everyone to remember 911, how painful it was to this nation and the families who lost their loved ones. Think about how this country pulled together with one voice, one heart, proud Americans, Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.
We are STILL proud Americans and we are faced again with a sad situation that 18 million Americans find unacceptable. We must all stay united and through one voice and one heart we can help to rebuild the Democratic Party just like we helped rebuild after 911.
Give your spirits a rest this weekend, feel from your heart what is at stake this election year, and Monday morning lets gets ready for a bigger fight all the way to the Democratic National Convention in Denver this August.
Remember, we are doing this for one reason: We Love the USA and will defend her to the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RssIN3ustUw
I don’t have a problem with Rendell - it’s all, as I have said, political posturing…
Just wanted to shout out a good morning to everyone. My kids asked me today if I was going to spend all summer break writing letters. hmmm I guess I need to spend more time with them. I will check in later, happy saturday everyone!
I think the first ladies are still a good venue to show differences. Cindy McCain does southeast Asia doing good and OB’s wife goes to DC to talk to Hillarys people. That still disgusts me.I am not a McCain person but need him to win to do away with OB.Bommy scares the heck out of me. Farrakhan calls him second comeing of Messiah.Says he will change world and since than Obama has used and the world in all his speeches.When talking of his change mission.
I guess they now realize what deep s–t they are in .Is there ablog where you can go and rant and rave like a junk yard dog? I am in need no carbs for a week I have gained twenty pounds in the last six months to much comfort food in between crying jags my house is in need of a good cleaning and now my mother is coming I need drugs a drink or something do those red bull drinks work wow I feel better or is it bitter.
We are the 18 Million PLUS, remember many many people told US during the primaries that they will be crossing the party line to vote for Hillary.
It is now UP TO THE DNC to decide which direction this party line crossing will be headed.
It looks like the Unity play was put oil on fire.
Prplvette85, you are in Chicago, er Obamaland? So am I! How do you like this week’s Trib (Chicago Tribune) with its “in-depth” reporting on Obama’s Chicago?
Yesterday tasks:
1) Watched disunity,
2) Contributed to HRC’s campaign to pay down the debt.
Today’s tasks:
1) Write Rep. Dennis Kucinich and urge him not to endorse Nobama and encourage him to urge Nobama to debate McCain,
2) Donate to Ed O’Reilly’s campaign to kick Kerry out of office.
I agree with #12 Henerietta. The pundits as I see it are represent more than 50% of the problem.
Doria don’t feel blue and don’t lose faith . You know there are still two months to Denver. God is in control.
Did any of you see Obama looking at his nails while Hillary was speaking yesterday?. Wow what a leader! How sensitive and respectful. And this is the guy that wants to be President and will answer the call at 3:00 a.m.
CHALLENGE OBAMA ON THE ISSUES!
1.) Obama’s opposition to the Iraq War is in his imagination. Obama lays claim that he was “against the war from the outset” and therefore demonstrated “better judgment.” Obama was not even in the U.S. Senate until 2005. In reality, Obama was never faced with making grave decisions about national security. The facts are that 100 Senators cast actual votes in 2002, including Hillary Clinton. Obama was not one of them. 77 of those cast their votes in favor of a joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq, as did 296 members of the House. Conveniently, Obama plays Monday morning quarterback about what he “would have done.” Anyone who can read a calendar can easily see that Obama’s imagination has run wild.
2.) The 2008 presidential debate and decision is not about whether or not to invade Iraq. That decision has been made. The invasion took place in 2003. Saddam Hussein’s government was toppled and Saddam was executed. Whether one believes the decision to invade was a proper decision or a historic blunder, it is a historic fact. A vote for Obama will not set the clock and calendar into reverse. Obama claims to be about the future, but he continues to dwell on past decisions. Is he asking for a “do over” of the last 6 years? Earth to Barack. ..
3.) The 2008 presidential debate is about what do to NOW and in the FUTURE about Iraq and the US Involvement. Obama wants it both ways. Obama has been allowed to state, unchallenged, that an Obama presidency would result in a withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq without consequences. With the nomination in hand, Obama begins to pander to the right and backtrack.
Obama should be asked to either, (a.) explain to the American people why removing combat brigades and allowing the factions in Iraq and in the region to work things out on their own is the only course, or (b.) explain to those who nominated him why he will continue a US military presence indefinitely.
If Obama chooses to back-track on his previous positions, allow him to explain that “Change” is all about him changing his positions to pander to votes.
Good morning PUMAs! Wow! I’ve been so very busy that I haven’t been able to keep up with the blogs for the last couple of days. Today, I noticed many new names. That is such a great sign!
I’m sure others have already stated it, but thanks to those of you who were able to make that trip to Unity. I watched on the news this morning where they also focused on Hillary supporters, and I’m sure I saw some of you on TV. What they stated and I beleive they are wrong, is that we will eventually fall in line, especially if BHO selects her for VP. HRC, you are the best, but don’t think so!
Can’t stay on for long as there is a lot to do today. But I will be with many folks later, so off to the printer I go to print flyers.
I hope all of you have a great day!
Murph, Absolutely love the warning sign at the top.
Unity! Unity! Unity! How disgusting!
Wouldn’t it have been amusing if Bill Clinton would of showed up yesterday and tackled Obama when he was speaking.
I also think that Fox News was the only channel to report that two prominent NH Dems refuse to support Obama and are thowing their support behind McCain, in addition to the only channel that pointed out that for the 3rd day in a row Gallup found the race tied. Not good news for Obambi.
Anyways, I do have a new Obama post up this morning:
Obama’s Subprime Buddies: Part II
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-subprime-contributors-part-ii.html
By the way, here’s a question?
Obama didn’t get a bounce after he declared partial victory in May, nor when he declared total victory this Month, nor when he received the magical Gore endorsement, so whats he going to do next week when this weekends PR stunt fails?
Good Morning Pumas!
We are being noticed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auUeicTkylM&feature=email
Morning jrhed, trish, bluesgal, kids1627, and everyone!
#47 Great article. I’ll be forwarding the link to many hoping to help open their eyse.
jrhed,
Went to your site and read the article about Obama’s financing. You may want to update the info. Seems now …..”Sen. Obama’s campaign has reported to the Federal Election Commission that there are actually 358 bundlers who have collected a grand total of $286,381,726.”
http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-286-million-bundled-dollars.html
These figures are absolutely mind-boggling!
Good Morning Pumas, I am new to blogging here even though I joined the very first week..My my how we have grown! I hail from the Freestate of Maryland and I am so very proud to be a PUMA. I am new to blogging period and my computer skills are lacking…so I was hesitant to come forward. I have been able to participate in some of the PUMA Actions but not all…it is very frustrating for me because I know what you do here everyday is so very important and I want to help in any way I can…I just wish I could do more. I will continue to “contribute” to PumaPac and Hillary when I can. I am a Dem soon to be Independent and if not Hillary ..I will be voting for McCain in November. Murphy thank you so much for this site and bringing us all together…you were wonderful on Fox the other day and I did a “victory dance” at the MVA yesterday…I took my Wash Post with me to renew something…and when I opened it..WOW…there we were..Huge article in the Style section..Awesome! oh and thanks “Antifish” for the lesson on how to cut and paste…I have been practicing and I am getting better! Thanks everyone for working so hard for our country, party and our Hillary..and always remember…Pumas got rhythm!!!! lol
Murphy,
Good Morning. Did you get my email re: Troll?
I am so digusted with Democrats “DNC” I may register as an independent. To me McCain is not an option as the republicans are making those weird noises they made in the two Bush elections and that is SO unacceptable.
#49 antifish, there was a little more to that clip that is not on there, she was asked again what PUMA stood for and repeated it “Party Unity My Ass” in the cute way she speaks, then Cafferty repeated the name, PUMA.
#54 marleta,
Many of us have left the Democratic Party. Diminishing their membership numbers and fund-raising is an effective strategy for effecting reform. We can always rejoin when they straighten up and get new leadership.
GOOD MORNING MURPHY!
Somehow I got logged off and had to put my password back in. STRANGE!!!
#15 Doria - I feel your pain! I think you are absolutely correct in stating that his supporters are much like us - deeply committed to their candidate. “She is nothing like the nasty, vitriolic Bots that we encounter.” Thank goodness, can you imagine letting some of those people into your house??!!! The folks we encounter on blogs may or may not be who they say they are. I am constantly stunned by the things people say to and about one another, the mean-spiritedness and the anger on huffpo, kos, or just commenting on news stories. Quite frankly, I’ve also experienced it at HRC.com and even here from people who go immediately on the attack if you express a different view. Wow, it can get nasty and hateful, even in “friendly” territory, it’s downright un-civil I may be naive or wishful, but I simply do not believe those same people would treat each other that way in person. The anonomity of the blog leads people to sometimes behave very differently. One of my co-workers JOB is to monitor the blogs (hey, some people get paid for this!!!) and will bring in examples of horrible, mean things that HRC supporters have said on blogs. Oh, yes, it comes from both sides. I try to remind them that most of us supporters of HRC and (dare I say it, BO) are NOT the same angry, cursing people we sometimes see reflected in the blogs. Before anyone jumps in and says “I’ve never said anything like that!” keep in mind that I’m not saying you have! As a matter of fact, I am suggesting that most of us (HRC and BO people) are good and decent people who feel deeply about their candidate. Many of us would probably enjoy each other’s company in true life. Having said that, I do wonder how I would react if one of my children came home with a BO supporter, lol.
#50 murphy
good morning Murphy and all you wonderful PUMA’s.
GOOD MORNING FOR YOU ALL¡¡
for me good afternoon
#11 Huong: sure , you are MCCAIN s a “healer”, and hussein s an instigator of wound tha were already healed, for his own benefit
#12 Henerieta: if the party & media get away@all this dirty business, in the future we would have a puppet goverment, & 0 democracy
#15 Doria, do not worry about the good souls that are now supporting hussein , when they wake up & find out what he is all about, they will be his biggest detractors
Good Morning Trish!
Good morning Pumas!
55 go_Ohio_Lady and antifish…
Cafferty is a condescending ass.
…just sayin, now I feel better
#62 Add Olbermann to that list….(:
Have a look at the following quote and try to fill in the blanks:
“The turning point of _(1)_____’s mesmerizing oratorical career occurred at one such meeting held on ____(2)_______. _____(3)____’s emotional delivery of an impromptu speech captivated his audience. Through word of mouth, donations poured into the party’s coffers, and subsequent mass meetings attracted hundreds of __(4)_____ eager to hear the young, forceful and hypnotic leader.”
The above quote is actually from a history paper and the blanks are filled in as follows:
(1)Hitler’s
(2)October 16, 1919
(3)Hitler’s
(4)Germans
An updated version could accurately read:
“The turning point of _Obama’s__’s mesmerizing oratorical career occurred at one such meeting held at __Democratic National Convention in Boston in July 2004. ___. ___Obama’s___’s emotional delivery of a stirring speech captivated his audience. Through word of mouth, donations poured into the party’s coffers, and subsequent mass meetings attracted hundreds of __Americans_____ eager to hear the young, forceful and hypnotic leader.”
The similarities are scary!
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to
the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
-Marcus Tullius Cicero 42 B.C
I don’t think Hillary’s “posturing” yesterday spoke support for the Nobama.
It said ‘I just have to endure this’; ‘time will pass’; he thinks he’s a winner…ha, ha; I will overcome even this!
cafferty has so much bitterness in him
that when he talks , he expels fire
#62 ABinNY,
Cafferty is the biggest sexist I’ve ever seen on national television and he absolutely hates the Clintons. I can’t count the number of complaints I’ve registered against him. I don’t understand what audience someone like that appeals to.
Hey Anti,
The 286 figure is his total fundraising. The last time the Obama campaign actually provided disclosure on their bundlers was early this year when they disclosed the 350+ who had raised $78 million. But remember, at the time the Obama campaign released these figures, his total fundraising was less than $140m. Since then public watchdog groups have been hounding his campaign to provide bundler disclosure, expecially considering the fund totals from Feb, Mar, & April. His campaign refuses to release the info, but it’s reasonable to assume that his bundlers account for around $140-$150 million of his current contributions.
His bigger problem may be the fact that his $5 contributors may, you know the one’s he said scraped money from under the couch cushions, may not be willing to contribute now that gas is at $4/gal. Also many of his largest contributors have already contributed their max for the primary and general election. That’s why he is pushing Hillary fundraisers so hard over the past week. His turn on public financing may come back to hurt him if he can’t tap into Hillary’s donors.
Sorry about the long post. My bad.
#63 dmmr,
Yes, indeed! Olbermann is rabid.
When I see the clips of Obama kissing Hillary I can’t help but hear the Bette Davis line from one of her movies: …”and when you kissed me I wiped my mouth..wiped my mouth!”
67 antifish
agree 100%….he is disgusting, mean-spirited, condescending, obnoxious, and hateful…his level of venom is frightening. And dmrr, right, Olberman is just as awful but maybe more dangerous because he thinks he is smarter than everyone.
jrhed,
I so hope this all backfires on him. There are signs already that all is not well in the fund-raising arena. Personally, I get at least one solicitation a day through snail mail. I’ve unsubscribed to all the emails. There seems to be a sense of desperation brewing. Anyone else get that feeling?
Thoughtful commentary versus sound bites.
Sound bites and quips won’t do it. Obama master at this.
Deeper thinking — stopping short of thesis papers will work.
More thinking equals less Obama.
#70 dmrr
LOL, when I saw him touching Hillary yesterday I shouted at my tv…
“get your %$$%ing hands off of her!”
Am I a little obsessed? Should I worry?
#65 SARTOM,
I agree. Hillary’s heart wasn’t in what she had to do yesterday. I have faith that she knows exactly what she is doing.
Hillary knows how to play the political game, and realizes she has to play nice nice with BO, because when she becomes the nominee in Aug, she will also need some of his supporters for Nov.
Good Morning PUMA’S got my coffee, so now I am fit for civil company!
jrhed 72
Don’t unsubscribe. I just have a ball with the solicitations that come to me e-mail or snail mail. Just mail them back either way. It’s easy and gets the point across for on how one feels. Here’s one from yesterday’s solicitation that I’m mailing this AM:
June 27, 2008
Dear Mr. McMahon,
It is with regret that I cannot support financially either the DNC or the Obama campaign. Reading the slides in the e-mail sent today, I see that, indeed, the DNC and the campaign are in a financial crunch. I am a bit surprised that such an experienced organization as the DNC would not have thought of the fundraising drawbacks earlier than at this time. However, I am not surprised as to the 30 millions dollars that the Obama campaign was able to raise especially after the following special interest groups contributed such large amounts to his campaign.
$ 11,200 Countrywide
170,050 Morgan Stanley
150,850 Credit Suisse 1st Boston
161,850 City Group
266,907 Lehman Brothers
351,000 Goldman Sachs
1,180,103 Sub Prime Mortgage Lender
What is even more surprising are the bundlers that contributed to his campaign, all legal, but one wonders about Mr. Obama’s commitment to what he says and what he does. He supports the idea of reforming lobbying interest and large fundraising interest only when it suits his needs. Actions in this case, speak louder than words. In summary, please accept this token of my contribution in reply to your request, a 44 Hillary dollar which has no value, but a whole lot of meaning.
Sincerely,
PUMA Independent
Washington State
Other ending for e-mail:
In summary, please expect no financial contribution from me until the DNC puts R back in the word, respect, for women and also hold true to its basic principles of inclusiveness of all people of race, gender, age, life style, economics, and opinion. In my opinion, the DNC has lost its center, its heart of fairness, and especially its ethics in allowing individuals the right to vote, a basic right of these United States.
#74 Obsessed?…Naw…Overprotective maybe…
#64
read about PAUL JOSEPH GOEBBELS
Hilter´s minester of propaganda
and sadly you would find similarities
his famous quote ” a lie repited 1000 times becomes the truth”
and also historically famous money´s raiser
notfollowingthepiedpiper,
Great post! Yes, I too worry about the similarities in Obama’s rise and the fervency of his followers to Hitler’s in pre-war Germany. That is not to compare Obama, himself, to Hitler. Just the phenomenon itself.
Good morning, Puma Family!
As I’m watching the MSM this morning, they are covering our story through rose colored glasses. Most networks and publications seems to paint our movement as a pro John McCain - anti Obama movement. While some of us are truly anti Obama, I think we need to work on sharpening our message - which is that we are protesting the way the DNC “selected” Obama - the way they stripped votes from those Americans they are supposed to be public servants for. I don’t think we want this movement to be labeled as anti Obama or WE REALLY LOSE CREDIBILITY - and certain Americans won’t join us because they will just feel we are bitter about the loss. Sure, we believe he isn’t qualified, and his campaign baited racism, and he’s not to be trusted, but these attributes and actions hale in comparison to the planned injustice by the DNC. What does everyone else think? I’m going to work on refining my message with my mail, discussions with friends, ect.
#83 I agree…see my comments at #20 & #28….
#12 Henerietta Excellent post Henerietta!
#83 FLgayGuy4Hill… it is a prolem I am having with the “message”. People think “pro-Mccain”
#83 FLgayGuy4Hill, I agree 100%, please read #37 above. We need people to know that the DNC does not have a monoply on our votes. We love this country and can not allow a party to dismiss 18 million voters.
Murphy
My daily thank you to you for continuing a terrific job.
#65 Great quotes! Love the one from Cicero. I have also thought of the reference to Hitler but have always receeved gufaws and “shame on you” if I ever said it out loud.
On another note, I just received my little flip-flop erasers in the mail. They are really cute! Anyone who wants to proceed with the flip-flop campaign just Google the Oriental Trading Company and you will find the flip flops there. So maybe we can send them saying something like “erase your flip-flops” .
Keep up the good spirit and the good work PUMAs!
#55 go_Ohio_Lady
I woke up from a nap on the couch just in time to hear Cafferty say the name Puma. I think it physically hurt him to see her piece, but at last we got his attention!
#83 FLgayGuy4Hill, and others
I agree…MSM is spinning and homoginizing our message. While we are miffed about Hillary, distrustful of Obama, and sickened by the media bias, the bigger issue is the corruption of the undemocratic Democratic Party and the need for change in the process of electing our presidents.
I also think that to comnat the “unity” message they are now trying to spin, we should have a unified message that goes out to voters everwhere.
“Do you believe the Democtratic Party Leaders forced their own chosen candidate upon American voters?
YOU ARE NOT ALONE!
Join us, Fight Back, Take back your VOTE!”
Interesting piece by Ed Rendell at the Confluence.
He’s started a new, albeit univigorated, movement:
HOUND.
If you’re interested in better blood circulation, read it, it’ll get your heart pounding. What chutzpah these people have.
riveerdaughter.wordpress.com
#83 FLgayGuy,
I agree. One problem is the other PUMA definition, Party Unity My Ass, takes away from the seriousness of our movement and gives the impression that we are bitter. This is the one the MSM has latched on to because they think it’s cute. We must stress People United Means Action as much as possible to downplay the other meaning and lend us more credence.
jrhed-Great article. I agree wholeheartedly. I think the question of where all his money came from is huge, especially since he claims it is mostly from small donors.
It flies in the face of his-we are a grassroots movement, not tied to lobbyists and big money-message. I try to post links to articles like yours on politico, WP and CBS because they actually post my comments, unlike CNN.
I also think it is really important to find out just how much he donated to SD’s. We know it was over 700 grand by Feb., compared to Clinton’s 230 grand. I think the final amount was considerably more. They say there is a long lag time to find out these amounts-how convenient for BO. This is an interesting article that someone posted here about the SD contribution.
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880619119
#17 I can’t get the page in English, when I click English the story is different.
ooops… that should be riverdaughter
and HOUND stands for Hillary-Obama-United-Not-Divided (gag)
Cafferty is a hump!! Those giant saggy bags under his eyes are actually his testicles! I keep writing that to his “Ask JackA$$” Cafferty Files but he never puts in on air! If he ever does you know it was from me
#92 wontbackdown -
I love that idea - ‘Take back the vote’
I think we should use that. What does everyone else think???
It is the phenomenon of a powerful political machine in the hands of a immoral charismatic leader (or maybe the other way around) that is the problem. We must do all within our power to stop the momentum. Once it is moving, it picks up speed, regardless of reason or logic.
I’ve posted this before, but will again just so we can keep track of the stage we our in:
“First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.”
Mahatma Gandhi
#92 wontbackdown,
That is a great statement for blogging. It is short, concise and to the point.
94 antifish, right and I think they are titilated by being able to say ‘ass’ on tv. They all chuckle when they say it…..UGGGhhh
We need to stress ‘People United means Action’. And the only ‘asses” are them.
MURPHY - what do you think??? Could we start using wontbackdown’s suggestion of ‘Take back the vote’?
Good Morning Puma’s, I have never been politically active before, so my friends are starting to listen to me. (First they thought I was losing my mind) Most were already going to vote for McCain if Hillary didn’t get the nomination. But the ones that said they would vote for BHO I finally realized that they don’t know the whole story. They are listening to the news. So I have been finding stories that don’t make the media and emailing them. They are starting to check for themselves. But so many people don’t vote in the primary’s and they are ususally conservatives that will probably go for McCain. I think BHO is falling apart, even his major supporters are starting to question his actions. Moveon.org is putting pressure on him concerning FISA. I think if we just keep doing what we are doing, talking to people, fliers, making our presence known we will prevail.
I believe that Hillary knows what she is doing. She looks and talks presidential. BHO does not. People are starting to see that. The older voters do not want a rapper for president. But I do think that we should help pay down the debt so she is ready for the convention. It would show how much support she has after she has suspended. So I will continue to support her debt and PUMA.
Thanks for all the great work, I love reading the comments - it makes me not feel so alone and keeps me on my mission.
greenfun June 28th, 2008 10:49 am ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Let’s also keep this in mind. He came from nowhere and CNN, MSNBC along with other media sources helped him immeasurably.
Check out this article-it explains just how that happens.
http://www.lynettelong.com/
I don’t expect this to get out of moderation- since I am a Hilary supporter my posts never make it. I have seen how even the comments that are allowed to post are used to craft a message. CNN’s role in this primary has been unconscionable, and you know it.
PUMA PAC
#58 Head over Heals - I have to disagree with some
of your assessment. I have been on many blogs and the nastiness of BO supporters is unsurpassed. I think
a lot of times you have people “posing” as HRC supporters and I have often wondered if they are repubs - but without a doubt the most hateful and
even violent comments come from BO’s camp.
Also, anyone who does not want BO as president
must hold their nose and vote for McCain as any other
choice will help BO. The more i learn about John and
Cindy McCain the more I am willing to do this.
#98 TX Puma,
LOL!
#103…”And the only ‘asses” are them.”
….looks like we’re back to Olbermann…
Has anyone seen the polls lately. It is not looking good for us non-obama people.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html
With all the stuff out there on Obama, I just cant figure out why he is going up and up. Over the last three weeks or so Obama has been edging up about 2 pts a week.
From what I have been seeing on Obama this is not the guy for President. I wish there was some way we all could get together and hire a Very Very good investigator. Maybe I’ve been watching too many TV shows, but isnt there some way to prove some of this junk on him—His BC, his ties with slumlords, Sinclair, whitey tapes and etc.
I think The only way to bring him down is to actually prove beyond any doubt some of these alegations.
I for one DO NOT trust this guy if he makes it to the Oval office.
Please do not blast me; for all I’m doing is asking if there is some way to make a stronger stand and bring out the real truth about Obama.
#9 Hillgirl on 06.28.08 at 8:04 am
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I say, go to work Hillgirl! Draft a letter and if you like, we’ll all provide feedback and then we’ll post it to the Action Center.
Good morning Pumas! We have an action alert for our weekend, thanks to Murphy - to grow our Puma lion pride! Let’s get cracking Pumas!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/unity-not-so-mu.html?cid=120442376#comments
My comment, but I don’t think it posted:
Strays? From the …herd? What we have witnessed and continue to witness in this primary is the complete degradation of the American voter. Clinton supporters have already been vilified in every way imaginable; in the case of FL and MI, they are considered half-voters by their own party. Obama will have to live (and lose) from the consequences of that strategy. I’m sure he’ll get over it.
With the advent of of PUMA, we’ll get over it, too. PUMA members have the intelligence, the humanity, and the integrity to object to being “corralled”.
#103 ABinNY,
Yes, I’ve noticed how much they enjoy saying “ass” and tittering like elementary school children.
“the only asses are them.” LOL!
#5 prplvette85 on 06.28.08 at 7:57 am
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Good job Puma prplvette85! We need some new Puma cubbies and kittens!
Hello everybody–checking in. WELCOME to all the new voices at this site. WOW !!!
Murphy–I had a good chuckle with the graphic at the top of this thread. Thanks, and thanks for all you are doing to keep this going.
#12 Henrietta- You have touched on what will be revealed –hopefully sooner rather than later. What the Democratic party is trying to do is to manipulate BO into this position at all costs. They take no prisoners–they will bring out everything they have to squash this counter movement. WE are the real story here. WE are trying to make the Dem. Party wake up and see that their corruption has plumbed too deeply into America.
WE are the new Boston Tea Party. WE are the revolutionaries, and the battles will get ugly. They are trying to dismiss us, laugh at us, scorn us, malign us, lie about us, and since they are so entrenched with today’s forms of media, they have so many powerful means at their disposal to do so.
For me now–it’s not so much about Hillary, though she will always have my heart–it’s about changing this country to do things the way the Founding Fathers intended–minus a few oversights they had towards women’s rights.
We can see what’s happening right before our eyes, and we have to fight back now–not wait until some future Bob Woodward writes the tell-all book and gets rich. I didn’t live through the 60s, wearing my tie-dyed shirt humming Dylan and Baez to see this country turn this way.
I want some day for us to have a wonderful woman president. I want some day for us to have a wonderful African American president, a Latino president, an Asian president…a Vulcan–heck (though birth certificate issues may occur with that)
But what they are doing is more than creating tire tracks from this metaphorical bus across our hearts–they have become a new type of tyranny, cloaked in the illusion of democracy.
#113 antifish on 06.28.08 at 11:17 am
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LOL! So true.
#12 Henerietta on 06.28.08 at 8:23 am
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Excellant analysis. Thanks for sharing!
I’m wearing my “ONE IN 18 MILLION” wristband and sent one to Murphy last night.
I am a Just Say NO to BO believer and Just Say Yes to McCain second choicer.
I still hope for a miracle in Denver but will never accept what the DNC did during the primary.
Have a great day. Stay cool!
#109 k in northwest,
Don’t put too much stock in polls. Several are being manipulated for propaganda purposes. Gallup is reputable.
Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Still Tied at 44%June 27, 2008
For the third straight day, Gallup Poll Daily tracking shows Barack Obama and John McCain tied in national registered voter preferences for the fall election, each now with 44% of the vote.
#109 k in the northwest
Don’t worry - be faithful and tenacious in your message. We are still a young movement - and we are growing. It’s amazing that we have grown at the rate we have without money and much media attention. You just watch - now that we are - our movement can only increase. This was supposed to be the Democrats year - McCain should be losing by double digits (Gallup still has BO and McCain separated by 4 points). Remember that Gergen said if there is only a single digit difference by the convention - the democrats are in trouble. Stay strong my friends and don’t worry - we are PUMAs and we will have the last roar!
Good morning PUMAs! I hope everyone has recuperated from that Hillary/Obambi speech yesterday. I have, that is all a show orchestrated by the DNC so they can win in November. What is bothering me is how the media behaves lately, showing propaganda favoring Obambi, it is all about him. Yesterday I was watching “Stupid” Chris Matthews, this ass has two ladies on his show and the first words coming out of his mouth were “Hillary supporters have an attitude”. This is outrageous, all of the sudden the media forgot that this is USA, that we have freedom of speech, just like them, and a right to vote. I always have a say poundering in my head, “My vote is my voice”, the media, DNC, and Obambi, cannot take that away from me. My only true leader is Senator Clinton, Amen.
#118 Taylorgrob
Where can I get a 1 in 18 Million bracelet?
Thanks
#23 prplvette85 on 06.28.08 at 9:06 am
Rendell drank the kool aid check out this link over at confluence:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
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Pumas here in Pennsylvania. Sounds like we need to send a respectful note to ‘correct’ our good Gov Rendell in his thinking toward our Puma mission. Hounds my a##!
Contact the Governor’s Office:
Governor Edward G. Rendell’s Office
225 Main Capitol Building
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17120
Phone: (717) 787-2500
Fax: (717) 772-8284
http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Governor/govmail.html
#75 ABinNY - you should hear me - there is only me in my apt but I’m talking back to those idiots on the MSM all the time - i try to keep it down cuz if anyone heard me - I’d probably be hauled away
Also, in my paper this am was article about the dog & unity pony show - cont to 2nd pg & along side was reprint (kinda) of WaPo article yest about Pumas, etc. MSM seems to be obsessed with Party Unity My Ass - suppose because it’s catchier than People United Means Action - but the first title allows them to giggle like little kids hearing their first (OMG) dirty word which in turn kind of demeans our movement……….kind of hard now to reverse that but…………….still waiting for my t shirt which should help & also our flyers should help too………………
Good Morning PUMAS
What I’m so upset about is that they still don’t get a big part of why some are so upset, they insist it is “sour grapes” blah,blah,blah….. That is so far from the real issues.
The DNC is trying to shove someone we don’t believe in down our throats and we are tired of it and tired of them.
I’ve seen some of us out there talking to the MSM and they are doing wonderful! Please keep up the good work being our voice.
#122 FLgayGuy4Hill,
are you Gaygay from HillaryClinton.com?
You are right:#83 FLgayGuy4Hill
We must make this organization a reform movement toward democracy. The democratic party has spit upon the will of the voter by allowing all sorts of shenanigans, shuck and jive in the caucuses, and disenfranchising millions of voters from their rightful voice in this primary process.
In truth, the process has been broken for a long time. I live in Indiana. I voted for president for the first time in KY in 1972. In all that time as a voter, I have had no voice in the primary. By the time my home state or adopted state has their primary, the nominee has already been selected: Until this election! Hillary Clinton gave us this great gift. She did not stand idly by and allow the party or the pundits to make the selection. Instead, she stood head and shoulders above them in principle and gave us all a voice.
This is what the PUMA movement and all other related movements must do. We have a voice, and we need to use it to change the way we elect our leaders. Nothing less is acceptable.
Heneri
#115 The problem at its most simplistic root is the idea that any political party can subject YOUR vote in this democracy to THEIR rules…
#112 AniEm,
Great post! Way to get the word out.
#118 taylorgrob on 06.28.08 at 11:21 am
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Hey taylorgrob! It’s the artist formerly know as ‘undecided but leaning’ on hrc.com! I’m so glad to see you here! Now answer us all this question: where in the heck can we all get those bracelets?
#129 sorry antifish - didn’t read the whole blog & just now saw your ref - similar to mine - does this mean great minds think alike???????????????????
#54 antifish regarding my “thank you antifish” in #53 I shoud have stated thatyou did not instruct me personally on how to cut and paste…but I thought I read one of your post several days ago and you told someone else how to do it…I’m sorry if I was wrong and I’m also sorry if I was too forward….hopefully I will get better at this.
Does anyone have a link to the bill that Sen Nelson (I believe) has introduced to enact major election reforms? I think all Pumas should bone up on this bill and it may just be something we can help push/or change to make it better in our actions.
124 Susie1945…I also live in an upstairs apartment but my son and his family live below so I can scream loud enough to be heard in space!
#132 PumaRhythm on 06.28.08 at 11:28 am
Sorry if I missed you posting before, but this is the first time I noticed you here. Hey, welcome aboard PumaRhythm!
#131 Susie1945,
Indeed, they do!
Thanks AbinNY - me too - small bldg - 3 floors & I’m on 3rd flr - I’m beginning to resemble those stereotypical old people who go around muttering to themselves -
I really should have read blog from #1 down - looks like we all have great minds & think alike…………;)
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House
Posting this again for newcomers who may not have signed
I also believe out message needs to be taken to the street because of BO and the Mainstream Media’s internet control.
This is the same vehicle that Bush used to sell the propaganda on the war (through MSM) under the threat of being called unpatriotic, a threat to security, etc., (i.e., now “racists, whiners, pro-McCain) to discredit opposition, facts contrary to their case for going to war.
We all know how that has turned out.
They (MSM’s) were also threatened with being blacklisted from access to the White House’s “scoops and stories” if they did not “fall in line”.
We are now being “blacklisted” from MSM blogs, etc.
Remember when Hillary told voters that BHO was taking his tactics right out of the Bush-Cheney-Rove playbook?
She wasn’t kidding.
We need a work-a-round to having our voices shut down - and remember - a huge core of Hillary Voters were Seniors, under 50,000 income, working families with not a lot of access ot time to get on the interent. If the MSM isn’t repoting the truth about BHO, or accurately portraying our existence, our numbers, our protest issues, how are they going to know, join us, and know they are not alone when it comes to “not falling in line” or falling for the fear-tactics of the rights and representation we will lose if we don’t back BHO.
They do not know who backs him, who he really is and how he and the DNC disinfranchised them and are destroyng the power of their vote.
1000 flyers at .06 is $60.00 - that’s 6 cents per post on a blog that is not getting through or being misrepresented while we are raising money for ads.
Another vehicle is to place “personal notices”, in every paper. “STOLE OUR VOTES - FIND OUT HOW”
With an 800 # and a message on the issues. They can’t block that or sabatoge that!
#83 GayguyforHill - I agree with not being known
as only against Obama. However we should be focused
on defeating him to prove our point to the DNC that we
are a force to be reckoned with. A protest vote is a must. If they win this election through all their dirty
tactics we will be powerless in the future. Please
everyone even if you don’t like McCain consider it
a protest vote. One democrat voting for Mccain is
2 votes BO has to make up for.
Where can we get the bracelet or is it a rubber wrist band - don’t care - want one - whine, whine - gRRRRR
Thanks PA4HILL08.
#109 K in the Northwest
Not to worry, there are people investigating Noname. No Quarters had some articles yesterday that you may find interesting. I’ll post the links later.
#139 wontbackdown - like your ideas - is this an action item or should we just start?
#126 Beca4Hillary
No, I’m not him. I’ve heard great things about his posts. Wish we could find him. I’m sure he is part of the NoDeal movement in some capacity.
About the polls… this one looks more accurate to me:
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/straw-poll
I especially like the first comment about the post turtle.
JOHN11:10AMJun 27th 2008
Subj: FW: Post Turtle
While suturing a cut on the hand of a Texas Rancher whose hand had been caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually, the topic got around to Obama and his bid for the presidency.
The old rancher said, Well, ya know, Obama is a ‘post turtle’.
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked, ‘What is a post turtle’?
The old rancher said, When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘post turtle’.
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain.
‘You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he sure as heck doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there and you just wonder what kind of an idiot put him there in the first place.’
#132 Puma Rhythm,
I’m sorry, I missed that sentence in your post. Thank you so much, and I’m glad I could help. If you ever need further help, please send me an email.
antifishpuma@gmail.com
137 Susie1945… I also mutter to myself…. and I made my own version of the PUMA business card and I leave them everywhere. On counters in stores, in restaurants, I was trying on clothes in Macy’s the other day and left one in evey dressing room. Wonder if any PUMAs here found one.
#144 FLgayGuy4Hill,
Where are u in FL? I live in Orlando.
#143 Susie1945… I really believe that we should some how join forces on a VERY FOCUSED EFFORT to coordinate a massive launch with ONE MESSAGE and a way to BROADCAST THAT ONE MESSAGE - to get people to KNOW they have an option!
As time goes on, more and more people are protesting and not just women. We may be the most vocal at this point, but we are not the only angry voters. My dad lives in KY, is going to be 79 on August 12, and is a great big Hillary fan. He plans to write her in. He says, otherwise, he has nobody to vote for.
My husband and his whole motorcycle club, (all men but two) are also angry. All of them have asked me how to write in our candidate. There are at least 15 of them in a small town club.
We have to find a way to make the media stand up and notice that this is not just an angry mob of women. We have to find a way to make them actually report on what is real, not the fairy tale that the DNC is pushing.
I believe they think they are doing the country a diservice if they report the truth. The idea, it seems to me, is to promote unity. If they report on disunity, they think they have not done their job. What we have to do is find a way to make them see that exposing DNC corruption and the dissatisfaction among democratic voters is the patriotic and right thing to do. I don’t know how to do that, but that is what we need to figure out.
Heneri
#98 TXPuma LOL he IS a hump!
ABinNY:
ABinNY:
Business cards are a great idea. Can you share a copy of those post cards? I would love to have some to distribute. I live in a VERY conservative (Republican) County in Northern California, but I have printed out a few flyers and will post them around town.
#128 dmrr - you are right—how dare they! It’s my vote.
All - just read the Rendell rant re: HOUNDS and Riverdaughter’s excellent response. A must read.
The fact that he has even created a “HOUNDS” and acknowledges the PUMAS as a threat tells you what effect we are having.
I’m so impressed with us.
Oh, and someday a Native American president too. (regarding my earlier list)
#148 beca4Hillary
I’m not too far - Tampa. We are everywhere and this state will be a huge component to our mission/strategy/victory.
I am guilty of sitting here venting more than half of my time that could be used passing out flyers and answering a caller (if we had a call line set up) like those “prayer lines”.
All the while time is ticking and there is only so much time to raise money and meet deadlines for Newspapers ads before the convention and November, right?
#101 DancesWithPumas I think we PUMA’s and our compatriot groups should make a note of your Ghandi quote, we may need to recite this mantra when it gets really ugly, They are “laughing” at us now, so the next stage is the fight, It gonna get ugly…
“First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.”
Mahatma Gandhi
Here is Riverdaughter’s response for those PUMAs who have not read it….it’s just perfect!
Nice try, Ed, but HOUND sounds an awful lot like Yellow Dog Democrats and that’s exactly what we are not. To be fair, you make a lot of good points. The caucuses *are* un-democratic. And I will admit that you were loyal to Hillary to the very end. Even now, we understand the nature of your loyalty. Hillary’s and your identities are inextricably wed to the Democratic party until death do you part. There is a lot to admire in that and the allusion to you not being “high class” is just part of the song and not to be taken seriously. No one has shown more class than Hillary and the stalwarts who stood by her.
But here is what you seem to not understand from the voters’ point of view. First, many of us are *not* planning to vote for John McCain. But if John McCain happens to win by default, we will not have a guilt trip laid on *US* for all the floods, famines and earthquakes that follow. The delegates, superdelegates and party leaders had a choice.
You would have us vote for Obama because Hillary asked us to. But, Ed, we are (or were) Democrats. We are not Republicans. If is not in our nature to fall into line when our consciences are on the line. We did it for Dukakis, Mondale, Kerry (we actually *liked* Gore) but we can’t do it for Obama. And you unintentionally allude to all the reasons why Obama is an exception in your letter. We have good reason to suspect that he is not for S-CHIP, CAF standards, equal pay for women, reproductive rights, universal healthcare, the Green Economy or ending the war in Iraq. For the last item, as well as preventing our country from falling into an economic disaster caused by financial “instruments” and the high cost of oil, we do not think he is ready or capable of assuming the office of president of the United States. Nothing in his debate appearances or comedic and disrespectful monologues at rally events (Brush the dirt off your shoulder much, Ed? I know YOU would never do it, so why should our nominee?) give us confidence in his abilities. He has deliberately kept his policies as vague as possible as a campaign strategy in order to lure the independent, libertarian and disaffected moderate Republican voters while at the same time slamming working class, Appalachians and the small town voters in your own state.
And let me tell you about those voters, Ed, the ones I spoke with on the phone, hundreds and hundreds of them. They were stung by the accusations of racism that were hurled at them because they didn’t think Obama was ready. That hurt them to the core of their beings. It attacked their character. No Democratic candidate in my lifetime has ever treated the voters so disgracefully.
You may have noticed I haven’t brought up the subject of sexism yet. The media and others have mischaracterized the PUMA movement as a reaction to it from the post-meonpausal set. But our protest is based on the fact that our party (or former party) did not choose the best *person* for the job. Many of us were early on very intrigued by Senator Obama. But once we got beyond the fact that he is very smart, we saw that there was no wisdom that went along with it. At the same time, we saw that his campaign operatives took a slash and burn attitude to the Democratic party that was in existence. His hooligans chased off or forced off women from the bigger more influential online outlets, yours truly included. I was thrown off DailyKos in January. That’s why I’m here. That’s why a lot of us have found ourselves on the outside of the party looking in at an ever shrinking voter constituency. Systematically, Senator Obama’s hooligans have made women, working class, Appalachians, latinos, gays, native Americans, Asians, Muslim Americans and the elderly personas non grata. Obama sought to recreate the party in a different image, one that didn’t include the poor, the dependent, the entitled to social security, the unpopular.
Is this new Democratic party the one you want me and the other PUMAs to rally around? No, Ed. No. The biggest mistake Clinton made during the primary season was not that she didn’t win the caucuses. The biggest mistake was that she was too nice to Obama and failed to pin him down. She failed to make him solidify out of all of the ethereal smoke he consisted of. He kept himself and his policies nebulous and indistinct so that his young, pretentious and more conservative voters could project whatever politician they wanted on to him. Forcing him to take a stand on something, *anything* would have broken off a chunk of those deluded voters. But one thing the PUMAs can say for sure is that he doesn’t resemble any Democrat we’ve ever seen nor does he adhere to any of our most cherished core Democratic principles. If he had, he couldn’t have attracted so many people not of our party in a year when the vast majority of voters didn’t want a Republican lite candidate anyway. Obama has actually squandered an opportunity. The voters were more than ready to accept a strong Democrat and we are giving them, what, exactly?
Either we all go forward together or the party deserves to lose in November. Either Senator Obama connects with the base or he loses them in November. Either the party power elite listens to the voters or it deserves to lose in November. We would be stupid if we demanded any less. We do not subscribe to the old saying, “Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?” but apparenly Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Senator Obama do.
Here’s what we want: We want a fair, open and transparent convention in Denver. We want Florida and Michigan’s delegates to be restored to full strength. We want Obama to give up his Michigan delegates. After all, he keeps insisting that he never wanted his name on the ballot in the first place. So, we should honor his wishes: no ballot position, no delegates. After all, if Hillary can’t make the same argument about all of the voters who couldn’t get to the caucuses in spite of their intent to vote for her, Obama shouldn’t get freebies from Michigan by having the RBC honoring the imaginary voters who failed to turn up during a record breaking turnout for the Michigan primary in January.
Jeez, Ed, and you guys call *us* stupid. Logic has been completely missing from this campaign season. By February 5, 2008, Hillary had won MI, FL, NV, NH, CA, NY, NJ, MA, AZ, TN, AR and a handlful of other little states. In any other year, Obama would have thrown in the towel and gone home. In 1980, Ted Kennedy won a big slice of these very same states and with a 600 delegate deficit, he *still* created havoc at the convention. But this year, we couldn’t even honor the states that moved up their primaries so that they could make a difference? Like my state, NJ? We are going to a convention where the candidate who has won the biggest Democratic prizes and swing states has been almost completely shut out and you are asking us to accept this, get over our disappointment, anger and frustration? Fine. We’re over it. But we still insist, no demand, that our votes count for something. I want the millions that my state spent on a primary in lieu of spending even one dime on gifted and talented education to be honored. The party owes us that much.
And if it goes against their beautiful theories and plans for party unity (shmoonity), if it ends up with a win for a person who they apparently loathe, along with all of that honorable candidate’s 18 million voters, well, too bad. They will not get party unity until they honor the voters, Ed.
Pumas are watchful and patient. And when the time is right, they strike. There is still time to achieve unity. There are two months before the convention. But if the voters aren’t honored by then, we strike.
For different perspectives, check out myiq2xu’s version at Klownhaus and Reclusive Leftist’s most excellent post on Leverage.
And what has got to be one of the funniest comments I have read since MABlue declared that Donna Brazile had provoked in him negative feelings towards the South American country, Karolina NYC presents this comparison of the day in the life of a Dog vs a Cat.
HOUND = Hillary (Pres), BHO (VP), United, Not, Divided
I could live with that!
I feel like we are 21st century suffragettes. This is a fabulous and progressive movement. Eleanor Roosevelt would be very proud of us; and I believe she’d be an active participant.
Hello all, Great posts everyone. What a brilliant group!
I just watched the Larry King Live video (posted at Just Say No Deal). Cynthia (can’t recall her last name) was very good, I thought. But as I was watching and as I have watched others, like Ellen Malcolm , talk about the reasons we should support Obama I had a thought. They are saying that we need to support Obama because of the Democratic agenda (healthcare, economy, war, etc.) but my thought was they are talking about an agenda not a leader. Additionally, what evidence do we have that Obama would implement this agenda? He has no record upon which we can base our decision. I think that is what we mean when we say ‘no experience’. We have no guarantees that this man will follow this agenda, particularly when he keeps backtracking on his promises.
Hi PumaRhythm and welcome
Okay my PUMAs - I have to head out for the day. I will carry our message in my travels. See you all later tonight!!
Terrig
I e-mailed Murphy to give permission for her to share my gmail with you, but it came back undeliverable. I’ll try again. Murphy, please share my e-mail with Terrig. How do we get through to you.
K in the North west
Here’s one of the NQ articles you may interesting.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/27/recently-unsealed-documents-reveal-obama-deeply-embroiled-in-rezko-case/#more-3276
#152 stella49
I would love to share them, not sure how to do that on this site or the action site. I’d be happy to email them to anyone who wants them…email me at
imgba at optonline dot net
#24 Swiss4Hillary on 06.28.08 at 9:07 am
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And of course, do not read the comments on this blog item unless you want your blood pressure to go through the roof! The bots just cannot accept the reality, that indeed she does hold a mandate of 18 million votes, more than any other Presidential candidate in US history. With that comes an extreme amount of power within the Party ranks. She will be a name to be reckoned with going well into the future, down ticket dems will be clamoring for her favors, and the bots just really need to ‘GET OVER IT’! LOL! I just had to say that…
murphy@pumapac.org
“Take Back YOUR VOTE” or maybe better…
“WANT TO TAKE BACK YOUR VOTE? WE ARE! FIND OUT HOW!”
I do “voice-overs” on audio. An 800-outgoing message line is a great way to get the message out.
How do people know to call it?
The business cards are cheap 10,000 for $9.00
Message:
“WANT TO TAKE BACK YOUR VOTE? WE ARE!
Call 800-000-0000
AND FIND OUT HOW WE ARE SAYING: BARACK OBAMA - NO VOTE!”
PumaPac.org - http://www.pumapac.org
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I read that this morning GayGuy and am mad as hell. Have got to do my part to stop this madness!
#160 terrig: “HOUND = Hillary (Pres), BHO (VP), United, Not, DividedI could live with that!”
I couldn’t. This lying, arrogant, slick, divisive empty suit, is not worthy of my vote, at any level.
Mayor0102 my email is terrigoodman@hotmail.com. If the trolls get it I will clean my computer again! I seem to have to do it almost daily anymore anyway. But that seems to be the price you pay.
#146 antifish Thanks!
2nd Reply to my Letter to the Editor of last week is below. I snail mailed a flyer to this person writing a note on the flyer that this was the path I am to follow and that I had the utmost regard for her and her family.
Title: Careful what you vote for
In response to recent letters from _____and _____, I, too am a registered Democrat; registered because I believe in the ideals of the party. To vote for a candidate who did not possess the majority of my own values goes against everything I stand for as a politica