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Good morning Pumas, today is a new day! If you’ve spent any time reading comments by Obama Movement supporters (brave soul!) on other sites, then you are familiar with the Bravery, the Principled Dignity, the Selflessness, and the STELLAR Grammar and Spelling Skills of Obama’s most diligent and diehard fans. The warning sign above is a perfect depiction of our friends in the O Movement in action.
This is Join Puma Pac Weekend! The Action today and tomorrow is simple.
- Ask five friends and family to check us out and join Puma PAC to reunite the Democratic Party so that is speaks for ALL Democrats in ALL 50 States.
- Print out 50 flyers or Drop Cards from our ACTION CENTER, and distribute them in public places in your community this weekend. Get Flyers HERE.
- Contribute to Puma PAC if you can.
The party elites, the Obama Movement, and the media are waking up to the fact that they have a REAL problem on their hands. That problem is us. PERFECT.
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Good morning, still ready, get ready for a new day!
lalala….all by myself…….
Good morning, I am ready!
Morning Pumas,
Today is a new begining!
today is the Taste of Chicago, it lasts until July 5th. I am going to pass out Puma flyers when I go. Printed out 200
I’ve been up for hours reading last nights posts…wow, full of good things to do.
I watched newsclips, I read articles, I cringed over Hillary standing next to BHO, but today is another day and I will face it head on.
Will have my fingers typing away today. The media will probably block my isp…oh wait, I can write from two locations!
Go PUMAS!
Murphy, your doing a great job and are very much appreciated.
Thank you to the PUMAS who stood in the hot sun yesterday for US and Hillary. We know you didn’t stand there for BOBO!
People come from all over Illinois, Michigan, Ohio etc. It is where all the restaurants set up booths with their specialty food. There is music, art etc.
Good deal #5!
Good morning everyone! You little PUMAs have been very busy overnight! I was watching Ed Rendell on Fox last night. He is my Governor and I was so impressed with him during the primaries–he supported Hillary staunchly. I know he, like her, has to tow the party line. He even said “I drank the Kool Aid”! Anyway this made me think that maybe now is another time to have a new letter writing campaign to the superdelegates who supported Hillary saying that although we respect their allegiance to the party and the Democratic candidate we want them to know that we will not vote for Senator Obama. Then we can just state why. Perhaps a standard letter can be drafted for all PUMA’s and placed on the ACTION center. What do you all think? I know they are doing something like this at this site, so perhaps we can join that movement. http://www.charlottefrontandcenter.com/post_card_project
Terry M on Today Show right now
this is the reason why i vote for Sen. McCain if Hillary is not the Nominee. Sen John McCain is truly a Hero!
http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/former-captor-says-hed-vote-for-mccain/20080627155209990001
Good Morning PUMA Family!
Have a Great Weekend!
The real story of this election has not yet been told. The pundits are as much a part of the problem as the DNC. That’s because they accept the corrupt system as ‘just the way it is’ with no outrage or no questioning the motivation or the results.
This may very well be a turning point for our country. As we unite to try to fix the Democratic party, we are raising questions and issues that have really never been raised before. The concepts of true democracy have long languished in our electoral system.
The primaries themselves, with their built in inequities need to be put to rest. The corrupt and undemocratic caucuses absolutely need to go. The electoral college has to be replaced with a new, one person-one vote model that gives us true democracy.
Has anyone here realized what has happened in this election? I mean really understood what happened? I think we should go back and read the testimony of Carl Levin in the Rules hearing. It is very telling. In that discussion, Senator Levin talks about scheduling the primary caucuses and elections so as to make it more equitable for states with large black populations. Apparently there was some agreement or discussion in the affirmative action vein during the rehashing of the rules that led to the fiasco regarding Michigan and Florida. The black leaders in the party apparently thought this was needed so they could finally elect a black person to the presidency. It would appear, from this testimony, that the race card was played long before the election process began.
There is another issue that naggs at my mind: The issue of state sanctioned elections held on behalf of the two major parties to the exclusion of all others. With this comes the difficulty of any minority candidate to get on the ballot in all 50 states. The bar is very high, and almost inpossible to get over for anyone except the majority candidates.
Both the republican and democratic parties have become unregulated quasi governmental entities. On the one hand, they can do things their way, all the while getting state sponsorship for their election events.
The news media thrives on the horse race mentality of the elections, and promote that as a sporting event. They really do choose who they want to promote. If you write to Cafferty, Matthews, Olberman, or King, they will never read your post on the news, never let your post get out of moderation. They too have become agents of the party line.
Blogging is all we have left. And even then Huffington has manipulated some of that impact.
The news media don’t get the fact that these ‘pundits’ who are telling us over and over again that we WILL eventually come across are making us angry. They don’t understand that the manipulation and pushing is coercive and not acceptable to us.
Welcome to the new world of change. Change we can create. Change that is long over due. Change that can be credited to Obama, but not the change he is talking about.
Diane from JustSayNoDeal was on Good Morning America this morning -early- about 6:10 am CST…
Good Morning all Was watching, media now thinks Latino vote is the stopper. I think they are afraid of us and figure if they ignore us we will go away or we will give up and fall in line. I think blogging in papers are good cause they keep us off online so much but I just keep trying and will.So I am thinking we just need to be as visable as we can any way any where. Right?
I’m feeling blue.
My son’s fiancee was visiting yesterday. She has traveled for BO to campaign and do voter registration. She is a graduate student, and very socially liberal. She is nothing like the nasty, vitriolic Bots that we encounter.
She has a light in her eyes and is passionate and excited…just like I am for Hillary.
I will vote unenthusiastically for McCain because I fear the BO socialist agenda and Cult of Personality. But when (if) BO loses, there will be a world of hurt. Alot of wonderful people will be emotionally crushed.
And that makes me sad for our national spirit. It is simply amazing that this candidate of Unity and Transcendence could have caused such angst and division.
#14 Bythelake Thank you, I know you didn’t.
Dear Pumas,
In case you are interested, here a highly critical article on the Unity event in the German SPIEGEL, entitled: “Scenes of a Forced Marriage.” It is not an usual repetition of what the US MSM reports, rather the piece is well researched – the author seems to have been present. Also, the democratic dissidents are mentioned, although not by their name PUMA yet.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,562705,00.html
Doria #18. You are so right. Most, if not all, of the voters who support Obama are doing so in good faith.
This is a very sad time for the democratic party.
Also agree with #14. Thanks.
Doria 18 I understand your frustration and pain. I have lost several friends who think we should just go along, like it or not, so that we can ‘get the big picture right’. By that they mean a democrat in the White House, regardless of who it might be.
I think this is a very emotional time in our country. We have had all kinds of things happen in the last 10 years that have set us to thinking as a nation. More and more people are trying to get involved and make a difference. The question is: Who shall be our standard bearer? The media picked and promoted Obama, while the majority wanted Hillary.
My daughter’s roommate, a college student age 20, voting for the first time, likes Obama. She thinks Hillary is ‘old news’ and not relevant to the ‘new generation’ of voters. My daugher, age 21, also a first time voter is a Hillary supporter all the way. School ended before the selection of Obama, so that conflict was not as rough, but inside a family, there can be bitterness.
I wish you the best.
Heneri
The media thus far has spun the resistance to Obama /DNC as a movement of ONLY women- which of course makes it appear as though we are less of a threat because “it’s just a group of women who are angry because the woman candidate didn’t win” – and therefore, through any sexist lens, it makes us appear less significant. I think it’s imperative to continue to point out that we are men AND women and we are voters of every stripe from all across this country and we are growing in number every day…
#12
Good comment. I copied and will use in my resolve to keep fighting and to keep the faith in what appears to be insurmountable odds at times…us against the world!
Still a Dem, but still voting for McCain…no other choice yet.
#20 -
I agree and I think we should go further. I believe that it is the RESPECT FOR DIVERSITY AND PRACTICE OF INCLUSION that is at issue. I believe that America’s success as a country depends on it.
Rendell drank the kool aid
check out this link over at confluence:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
Plus Pumas, check out this article on the CNN website entitled “The Fall…and Rise of the Clinton Empire.” Quintessence: Hillary has positioned herself well fort he next round!
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/the-fall-and-rise-of-the-clinton-empire/
bostonboomer gives a wonderful reply to this farse of a site that rendell has started.
Does the DNC/BO really need clintons as he declaired in the Unity speech? If Clintons are so critical to the Democratic party, why should BO even be in the race to begin with? He is not in it for you and me, he is in it for special interests – for those want to knock down the clintons. Now they want to bend them down to help support his failure among majority of core democrats.
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!!!!!!!
#22 Diversity, Inclusion, Fairness, we represent all the tenants of a true democracy…
Certainly we all have our own feelings about why we are here…be it the DNC decision on FL & MI, the popular vote superseded by an unfair process, the sexism, the inadequacy of the “presumptive” nominee, etc. So it is important, I think, to point out that we are not representative of one reason or one group…
TRISHFROMCANADA
I got your e-mail. But, I can’t download this
Adobe reader. It says update from 5.0 to 5.5 version. Mine is 4.0. I’m sorry. But thank you for looking it up for me.
Good Morning all I woke up at 4am thinking about my husband who is so upset that Hillary is being treated this way and that our party has done this in broad daylight given an election to Obama because in his AA and they have been saying thier vote is taken for granted and it makes great media for it to be on a Historic day 45 years later to the Day of I HAVE A DREAM [aug28th1963] if only the leadership of this party were more like Martin and Bobby they would have never hurt so many people to get what they wanted .I think about being sixteen in 68 and really how far we have come and how far we have now fallen behind they use us all but most of all they use faithful women who take it to heart thier job of making this a better place for our children and grandchildren.I vote in every election and sometimes my husband say’s you go hon vote for both of us the hand full of people my girl friend and I who is my age run into at the polls if were not working them are WOMEN sorry but that is the truth.We pull our weight when it comes to voting.My husband said from now on he will be voting on every election day not just every four years he didn’t go vote for Hillary and BO won are very red state but not by much every one is learning in this election It truly is history making.
Rendell is posturing for a cabinet position he said he would be willing to accept after his term of Gov. is over…which is different from the Rendell who said he enjoys being his own boss and wasn’t interested in the VP slot or anything else….
PUMAS eat HOUNDS…don’t they?
Hounds are cute and lazy and lay around doing nothing don’t they. They do hunt prey so I will watch out for them.
#29 bluesgal
ok no problem, I’ll get what you need, I have to go out for a bit so I’ll have it for you in a few hours.
#31 dmrr – We should not listen to any of them say anything now,it is all part of the unity SHOW(Muyphy’s downstair thread). We must remember how great Gov. Rendell did during PA primary.
He could be on the ticket with HRC, I would not mind.
#34 TRISHFROMCANADA
Thank you Trish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good morning PUMA’s:
Although many of us are sad and disappointed that yesterday’s farce took place we need to take this weekend to renew our spirits and remember what we are fighting for.
I want everyone to remember 911, how painful it was to this nation and the families who lost their loved ones. Think about how this country pulled together with one voice, one heart, proud Americans, Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.
We are STILL proud Americans and we are faced again with a sad situation that 18 million Americans find unacceptable. We must all stay united and through one voice and one heart we can help to rebuild the Democratic Party just like we helped rebuild after 911.
Give your spirits a rest this weekend, feel from your heart what is at stake this election year, and Monday morning lets gets ready for a bigger fight all the way to the Democratic National Convention in Denver this August.
Remember, we are doing this for one reason: We Love the USA and will defend her to the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RssIN3ustUw
I don’t have a problem with Rendell – it’s all, as I have said, political posturing…
Just wanted to shout out a good morning to everyone. My kids asked me today if I was going to spend all summer break writing letters. hmmm I guess I need to spend more time with them. I will check in later, happy saturday everyone!
I think the first ladies are still a good venue to show differences. Cindy McCain does southeast Asia doing good and OB’s wife goes to DC to talk to Hillarys people. That still disgusts me.I am not a McCain person but need him to win to do away with OB.Bommy scares the heck out of me. Farrakhan calls him second comeing of Messiah.Says he will change world and since than Obama has used and the world in all his speeches.When talking of his change mission.
I guess they now realize what deep s–t they are in .Is there ablog where you can go and rant and rave like a junk yard dog? I am in need no carbs for a week I have gained twenty pounds in the last six months to much comfort food in between crying jags my house is in need of a good cleaning and now my mother is coming I need drugs a drink or something do those red bull drinks work wow I feel better or is it bitter.
We are the 18 Million PLUS, remember many many people told US during the primaries that they will be crossing the party line to vote for Hillary.
It is now UP TO THE DNC to decide which direction this party line crossing will be headed.
It looks like the Unity play was put oil on fire.
Prplvette85, you are in Chicago, er Obamaland? So am I! How do you like this week’s Trib (Chicago Tribune) with its “in-depth” reporting on Obama’s Chicago?
Yesterday tasks:
1) Watched disunity,
2) Contributed to HRC’s campaign to pay down the debt.
Today’s tasks:
1) Write Rep. Dennis Kucinich and urge him not to endorse Nobama and encourage him to urge Nobama to debate McCain,
2) Donate to Ed O’Reilly’s campaign to kick Kerry out of office.
I agree with #12 Henerietta. The pundits as I see it are represent more than 50% of the problem.
Doria don’t feel blue and don’t lose faith . You know there are still two months to Denver. God is in control.
Did any of you see Obama looking at his nails while Hillary was speaking yesterday?. Wow what a leader! How sensitive and respectful. And this is the guy that wants to be President and will answer the call at 3:00 a.m.
CHALLENGE OBAMA ON THE ISSUES!
1.) Obama’s opposition to the Iraq War is in his imagination. Obama lays claim that he was “against the war from the outset” and therefore demonstrated “better judgment.” Obama was not even in the U.S. Senate until 2005. In reality, Obama was never faced with making grave decisions about national security. The facts are that 100 Senators cast actual votes in 2002, including Hillary Clinton. Obama was not one of them. 77 of those cast their votes in favor of a joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq, as did 296 members of the House. Conveniently, Obama plays Monday morning quarterback about what he “would have done.” Anyone who can read a calendar can easily see that Obama’s imagination has run wild.
2.) The 2008 presidential debate and decision is not about whether or not to invade Iraq. That decision has been made. The invasion took place in 2003. Saddam Hussein’s government was toppled and Saddam was executed. Whether one believes the decision to invade was a proper decision or a historic blunder, it is a historic fact. A vote for Obama will not set the clock and calendar into reverse. Obama claims to be about the future, but he continues to dwell on past decisions. Is he asking for a “do over” of the last 6 years? Earth to Barack. ..
3.) The 2008 presidential debate is about what do to NOW and in the FUTURE about Iraq and the US Involvement. Obama wants it both ways. Obama has been allowed to state, unchallenged, that an Obama presidency would result in a withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq without consequences. With the nomination in hand, Obama begins to pander to the right and backtrack.
Obama should be asked to either, (a.) explain to the American people why removing combat brigades and allowing the factions in Iraq and in the region to work things out on their own is the only course, or (b.) explain to those who nominated him why he will continue a US military presence indefinitely.
If Obama chooses to back-track on his previous positions, allow him to explain that “Change” is all about him changing his positions to pander to votes.
Good morning PUMAs! Wow! I’ve been so very busy that I haven’t been able to keep up with the blogs for the last couple of days. Today, I noticed many new names. That is such a great sign!
I’m sure others have already stated it, but thanks to those of you who were able to make that trip to Unity. I watched on the news this morning where they also focused on Hillary supporters, and I’m sure I saw some of you on TV. What they stated and I beleive they are wrong, is that we will eventually fall in line, especially if BHO selects her for VP. HRC, you are the best, but don’t think so!
Can’t stay on for long as there is a lot to do today. But I will be with many folks later, so off to the printer I go to print flyers.
I hope all of you have a great day!
Murph, Absolutely love the warning sign at the top.
Unity! Unity! Unity! How disgusting!
Wouldn’t it have been amusing if Bill Clinton would of showed up yesterday and tackled Obama when he was speaking.
I also think that Fox News was the only channel to report that two prominent NH Dems refuse to support Obama and are thowing their support behind McCain, in addition to the only channel that pointed out that for the 3rd day in a row Gallup found the race tied. Not good news for Obambi.
Anyways, I do have a new Obama post up this morning:
Obama’s Subprime Buddies: Part II
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-subprime-contributors-part-ii.html
By the way, here’s a question?
Obama didn’t get a bounce after he declared partial victory in May, nor when he declared total victory this Month, nor when he received the magical Gore endorsement, so whats he going to do next week when this weekends PR stunt fails?
Good Morning Pumas!
We are being noticed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auUeicTkylM&feature=email
Morning jrhed, trish, bluesgal, kids1627, and everyone!
#47 Great article. I’ll be forwarding the link to many hoping to help open their eyse.
jrhed,
Went to your site and read the article about Obama’s financing. You may want to update the info. Seems now …..”Sen. Obama’s campaign has reported to the Federal Election Commission that there are actually 358 bundlers who have collected a grand total of $286,381,726.”
http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-286-million-bundled-dollars.html
These figures are absolutely mind-boggling!
Good Morning Pumas, I am new to blogging here even though I joined the very first week..My my how we have grown! I hail from the Freestate of Maryland and I am so very proud to be a PUMA. I am new to blogging period and my computer skills are lacking…so I was hesitant to come forward. I have been able to participate in some of the PUMA Actions but not all…it is very frustrating for me because I know what you do here everyday is so very important and I want to help in any way I can…I just wish I could do more. I will continue to “contribute” to PumaPac and Hillary when I can. I am a Dem soon to be Independent and if not Hillary ..I will be voting for McCain in November. Murphy thank you so much for this site and bringing us all together…you were wonderful on Fox the other day and I did a “victory dance” at the MVA yesterday…I took my Wash Post with me to renew something…and when I opened it..WOW…there we were..Huge article in the Style section..Awesome! oh and thanks “Antifish” for the lesson on how to cut and paste…I have been practicing and I am getting better! Thanks everyone for working so hard for our country, party and our Hillary..and always remember…Pumas got rhythm!!!! lol
Murphy,
Good Morning. Did you get my email re: Troll?
I am so digusted with Democrats “DNC” I may register as an independent. To me McCain is not an option as the republicans are making those weird noises they made in the two Bush elections and that is SO unacceptable.
#49 antifish, there was a little more to that clip that is not on there, she was asked again what PUMA stood for and repeated it “Party Unity My Ass” in the cute way she speaks, then Cafferty repeated the name, PUMA.
#54 marleta,
Many of us have left the Democratic Party. Diminishing their membership numbers and fund-raising is an effective strategy for effecting reform. We can always rejoin when they straighten up and get new leadership.
GOOD MORNING MURPHY!
Somehow I got logged off and had to put my password back in. STRANGE!!!
#15 Doria – I feel your pain! I think you are absolutely correct in stating that his supporters are much like us – deeply committed to their candidate. “She is nothing like the nasty, vitriolic Bots that we encounter.” Thank goodness, can you imagine letting some of those people into your house??!!! The folks we encounter on blogs may or may not be who they say they are. I am constantly stunned by the things people say to and about one another, the mean-spiritedness and the anger on huffpo, kos, or just commenting on news stories. Quite frankly, I’ve also experienced it at HRC.com and even here from people who go immediately on the attack if you express a different view. Wow, it can get nasty and hateful, even in “friendly” territory, it’s downright un-civil I may be naive or wishful, but I simply do not believe those same people would treat each other that way in person. The anonomity of the blog leads people to sometimes behave very differently. One of my co-workers JOB is to monitor the blogs (hey, some people get paid for this!!!) and will bring in examples of horrible, mean things that HRC supporters have said on blogs. Oh, yes, it comes from both sides. I try to remind them that most of us supporters of HRC and (dare I say it, BO) are NOT the same angry, cursing people we sometimes see reflected in the blogs. Before anyone jumps in and says “I’ve never said anything like that!” keep in mind that I’m not saying you have! As a matter of fact, I am suggesting that most of us (HRC and BO people) are good and decent people who feel deeply about their candidate. Many of us would probably enjoy each other’s company in true life. Having said that, I do wonder how I would react if one of my children came home with a BO supporter, lol.
#50 murphy
good morning Murphy and all you wonderful PUMA’s.
GOOD MORNING FOR YOU ALL¡¡
for me good afternoon
#11 Huong: sure , you are MCCAIN s a “healer”, and hussein s an instigator of wound tha were already healed, for his own benefit
#12 Henerieta: if the party & media get away@all this dirty business, in the future we would have a puppet goverment, & 0 democracy
#15 Doria, do not worry about the good souls that are now supporting hussein , when they wake up & find out what he is all about, they will be his biggest detractors
Good Morning Trish!
Good morning Pumas!
55 go_Ohio_Lady and antifish…
Cafferty is a condescending ass.
…just sayin, now I feel better
#62 Add Olbermann to that list….(:
Have a look at the following quote and try to fill in the blanks:
“The turning point of _(1)_____’s mesmerizing oratorical career occurred at one such meeting held on ____(2)_______. _____(3)____’s emotional delivery of an impromptu speech captivated his audience. Through word of mouth, donations poured into the party’s coffers, and subsequent mass meetings attracted hundreds of __(4)_____ eager to hear the young, forceful and hypnotic leader.”
The above quote is actually from a history paper and the blanks are filled in as follows:
(1)Hitler’s
(2)October 16, 1919
(3)Hitler’s
(4)Germans
An updated version could accurately read:
“The turning point of _Obama’s__’s mesmerizing oratorical career occurred at one such meeting held at __Democratic National Convention in Boston in July 2004. ___. ___Obama’s___’s emotional delivery of a stirring speech captivated his audience. Through word of mouth, donations poured into the party’s coffers, and subsequent mass meetings attracted hundreds of __Americans_____ eager to hear the young, forceful and hypnotic leader.”
The similarities are scary!
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to
the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
-Marcus Tullius Cicero 42 B.C
I don’t think Hillary’s “posturing” yesterday spoke support for the Nobama.
It said ‘I just have to endure this’; ‘time will pass’; he thinks he’s a winner…ha, ha; I will overcome even this!
cafferty has so much bitterness in him
that when he talks , he expels fire
#62 ABinNY,
Cafferty is the biggest sexist I’ve ever seen on national television and he absolutely hates the Clintons. I can’t count the number of complaints I’ve registered against him. I don’t understand what audience someone like that appeals to.
Hey Anti,
The 286 figure is his total fundraising. The last time the Obama campaign actually provided disclosure on their bundlers was early this year when they disclosed the 350+ who had raised $78 million. But remember, at the time the Obama campaign released these figures, his total fundraising was less than $140m. Since then public watchdog groups have been hounding his campaign to provide bundler disclosure, expecially considering the fund totals from Feb, Mar, & April. His campaign refuses to release the info, but it’s reasonable to assume that his bundlers account for around $140-$150 million of his current contributions.
His bigger problem may be the fact that his $5 contributors may, you know the one’s he said scraped money from under the couch cushions, may not be willing to contribute now that gas is at $4/gal. Also many of his largest contributors have already contributed their max for the primary and general election. That’s why he is pushing Hillary fundraisers so hard over the past week. His turn on public financing may come back to hurt him if he can’t tap into Hillary’s donors.
Sorry about the long post. My bad.
#63 dmmr,
Yes, indeed! Olbermann is rabid.
When I see the clips of Obama kissing Hillary I can’t help but hear the Bette Davis line from one of her movies: …”and when you kissed me I wiped my mouth..wiped my mouth!”
67 antifish
agree 100%….he is disgusting, mean-spirited, condescending, obnoxious, and hateful…his level of venom is frightening. And dmrr, right, Olberman is just as awful but maybe more dangerous because he thinks he is smarter than everyone.
jrhed,
I so hope this all backfires on him. There are signs already that all is not well in the fund-raising arena. Personally, I get at least one solicitation a day through snail mail. I’ve unsubscribed to all the emails. There seems to be a sense of desperation brewing. Anyone else get that feeling?
Thoughtful commentary versus sound bites.
Sound bites and quips won’t do it. Obama master at this.
Deeper thinking — stopping short of thesis papers will work.
More thinking equals less Obama.
#70 dmrr
LOL, when I saw him touching Hillary yesterday I shouted at my tv…
“get your %$$%ing hands off of her!”
Am I a little obsessed? Should I worry?
#65 SARTOM,
I agree. Hillary’s heart wasn’t in what she had to do yesterday. I have faith that she knows exactly what she is doing.
Hillary knows how to play the political game, and realizes she has to play nice nice with BO, because when she becomes the nominee in Aug, she will also need some of his supporters for Nov.
Good Morning PUMA’S got my coffee, so now I am fit for civil company!
jrhed 72
Don’t unsubscribe. I just have a ball with the solicitations that come to me e-mail or snail mail. Just mail them back either way. It’s easy and gets the point across for on how one feels. Here’s one from yesterday’s solicitation that I’m mailing this AM:
June 27, 2008
Dear Mr. McMahon,
It is with regret that I cannot support financially either the DNC or the Obama campaign. Reading the slides in the e-mail sent today, I see that, indeed, the DNC and the campaign are in a financial crunch. I am a bit surprised that such an experienced organization as the DNC would not have thought of the fundraising drawbacks earlier than at this time. However, I am not surprised as to the 30 millions dollars that the Obama campaign was able to raise especially after the following special interest groups contributed such large amounts to his campaign.
$ 11,200 Countrywide
170,050 Morgan Stanley
150,850 Credit Suisse 1st Boston
161,850 City Group
266,907 Lehman Brothers
351,000 Goldman Sachs
1,180,103 Sub Prime Mortgage Lender
What is even more surprising are the bundlers that contributed to his campaign, all legal, but one wonders about Mr. Obama’s commitment to what he says and what he does. He supports the idea of reforming lobbying interest and large fundraising interest only when it suits his needs. Actions in this case, speak louder than words. In summary, please accept this token of my contribution in reply to your request, a 44 Hillary dollar which has no value, but a whole lot of meaning.
Sincerely,
PUMA Independent
Washington State
Other ending for e-mail:
In summary, please expect no financial contribution from me until the DNC puts R back in the word, respect, for women and also hold true to its basic principles of inclusiveness of all people of race, gender, age, life style, economics, and opinion. In my opinion, the DNC has lost its center, its heart of fairness, and especially its ethics in allowing individuals the right to vote, a basic right of these United States.
#74 Obsessed?…Naw…Overprotective maybe…
#64
read about PAUL JOSEPH GOEBBELS
Hilter´s minester of propaganda
and sadly you would find similarities
his famous quote ” a lie repited 1000 times becomes the truth”
and also historically famous money´s raiser
notfollowingthepiedpiper,
Great post! Yes, I too worry about the similarities in Obama’s rise and the fervency of his followers to Hitler’s in pre-war Germany. That is not to compare Obama, himself, to Hitler. Just the phenomenon itself.
Good morning, Puma Family!
As I’m watching the MSM this morning, they are covering our story through rose colored glasses. Most networks and publications seems to paint our movement as a pro John McCain – anti Obama movement. While some of us are truly anti Obama, I think we need to work on sharpening our message – which is that we are protesting the way the DNC “selected” Obama – the way they stripped votes from those Americans they are supposed to be public servants for. I don’t think we want this movement to be labeled as anti Obama or WE REALLY LOSE CREDIBILITY – and certain Americans won’t join us because they will just feel we are bitter about the loss. Sure, we believe he isn’t qualified, and his campaign baited racism, and he’s not to be trusted, but these attributes and actions hale in comparison to the planned injustice by the DNC. What does everyone else think? I’m going to work on refining my message with my mail, discussions with friends, ect.
#83 I agree…see my comments at #20 & #28….
#12 Henerietta Excellent post Henerietta!
#83 FLgayGuy4Hill… it is a prolem I am having with the “message”. People think “pro-Mccain”
#83 FLgayGuy4Hill, I agree 100%, please read #37 above. We need people to know that the DNC does not have a monoply on our votes. We love this country and can not allow a party to dismiss 18 million voters.
Murphy
My daily thank you to you for continuing a terrific job.
#65 Great quotes! Love the one from Cicero. I have also thought of the reference to Hitler but have always receeved gufaws and “shame on you” if I ever said it out loud.
On another note, I just received my little flip-flop erasers in the mail. They are really cute! Anyone who wants to proceed with the flip-flop campaign just Google the Oriental Trading Company and you will find the flip flops there. So maybe we can send them saying something like “erase your flip-flops” .
Keep up the good spirit and the good work PUMAs!
#55 go_Ohio_Lady
I woke up from a nap on the couch just in time to hear Cafferty say the name Puma. I think it physically hurt him to see her piece, but at last we got his attention!
#83 FLgayGuy4Hill, and others
I agree…MSM is spinning and homoginizing our message. While we are miffed about Hillary, distrustful of Obama, and sickened by the media bias, the bigger issue is the corruption of the undemocratic Democratic Party and the need for change in the process of electing our presidents.
I also think that to comnat the “unity” message they are now trying to spin, we should have a unified message that goes out to voters everwhere.
“Do you believe the Democtratic Party Leaders forced their own chosen candidate upon American voters?
YOU ARE NOT ALONE!
Join us, Fight Back, Take back your VOTE!”
Interesting piece by Ed Rendell at the Confluence.
He’s started a new, albeit univigorated, movement:
HOUND.
If you’re interested in better blood circulation, read it, it’ll get your heart pounding. What chutzpah these people have.
riveerdaughter.wordpress.com
#83 FLgayGuy,
I agree. One problem is the other PUMA definition, Party Unity My Ass, takes away from the seriousness of our movement and gives the impression that we are bitter. This is the one the MSM has latched on to because they think it’s cute. We must stress People United Means Action as much as possible to downplay the other meaning and lend us more credence.
jrhed-Great article. I agree wholeheartedly. I think the question of where all his money came from is huge, especially since he claims it is mostly from small donors.
It flies in the face of his-we are a grassroots movement, not tied to lobbyists and big money-message. I try to post links to articles like yours on politico, WP and CBS because they actually post my comments, unlike CNN.
I also think it is really important to find out just how much he donated to SD’s. We know it was over 700 grand by Feb., compared to Clinton’s 230 grand. I think the final amount was considerably more. They say there is a long lag time to find out these amounts-how convenient for BO. This is an interesting article that someone posted here about the SD contribution.
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880619119
#17 I can’t get the page in English, when I click English the story is different.
ooops… that should be riverdaughter
and HOUND stands for Hillary-Obama-United-Not-Divided (gag)
Cafferty is a hump!! Those giant saggy bags under his eyes are actually his testicles! I keep writing that to his “Ask JackA$$” Cafferty Files but he never puts in on air! If he ever does you know it was from me
#92 wontbackdown -
I love that idea – ‘Take back the vote’
I think we should use that. What does everyone else think???
It is the phenomenon of a powerful political machine in the hands of a immoral charismatic leader (or maybe the other way around) that is the problem. We must do all within our power to stop the momentum. Once it is moving, it picks up speed, regardless of reason or logic.
I’ve posted this before, but will again just so we can keep track of the stage we our in:
“First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.”
Mahatma Gandhi
#92 wontbackdown,
That is a great statement for blogging. It is short, concise and to the point.
94 antifish, right and I think they are titilated by being able to say ‘ass’ on tv. They all chuckle when they say it…..UGGGhhh
We need to stress ‘People United means Action’. And the only ‘asses” are them.
MURPHY – what do you think??? Could we start using wontbackdown’s suggestion of ‘Take back the vote’?
Good Morning Puma’s, I have never been politically active before, so my friends are starting to listen to me. (First they thought I was losing my mind) Most were already going to vote for McCain if Hillary didn’t get the nomination. But the ones that said they would vote for BHO I finally realized that they don’t know the whole story. They are listening to the news. So I have been finding stories that don’t make the media and emailing them. They are starting to check for themselves. But so many people don’t vote in the primary’s and they are ususally conservatives that will probably go for McCain. I think BHO is falling apart, even his major supporters are starting to question his actions. Moveon.org is putting pressure on him concerning FISA. I think if we just keep doing what we are doing, talking to people, fliers, making our presence known we will prevail.
I believe that Hillary knows what she is doing. She looks and talks presidential. BHO does not. People are starting to see that. The older voters do not want a rapper for president. But I do think that we should help pay down the debt so she is ready for the convention. It would show how much support she has after she has suspended. So I will continue to support her debt and PUMA.
Thanks for all the great work, I love reading the comments – it makes me not feel so alone and keeps me on my mission.
greenfun June 28th, 2008 10:49 am ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Let’s also keep this in mind. He came from nowhere and CNN, MSNBC along with other media sources helped him immeasurably.
Check out this article-it explains just how that happens.
http://www.lynettelong.com/
I don’t expect this to get out of moderation- since I am a Hilary supporter my posts never make it. I have seen how even the comments that are allowed to post are used to craft a message. CNN’s role in this primary has been unconscionable, and you know it.
PUMA PAC
#58 Head over Heals – I have to disagree with some
of your assessment. I have been on many blogs and the nastiness of BO supporters is unsurpassed. I think
a lot of times you have people “posing” as HRC supporters and I have often wondered if they are repubs – but without a doubt the most hateful and
even violent comments come from BO’s camp.
Also, anyone who does not want BO as president
must hold their nose and vote for McCain as any other
choice will help BO. The more i learn about John and
Cindy McCain the more I am willing to do this.
#98 TX Puma,
LOL!
#103…”And the only ‘asses” are them.”
….looks like we’re back to Olbermann…
Has anyone seen the polls lately. It is not looking good for us non-obama people.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html
With all the stuff out there on Obama, I just cant figure out why he is going up and up. Over the last three weeks or so Obama has been edging up about 2 pts a week.
From what I have been seeing on Obama this is not the guy for President. I wish there was some way we all could get together and hire a Very Very good investigator. Maybe I’ve been watching too many TV shows, but isnt there some way to prove some of this junk on him—His BC, his ties with slumlords, Sinclair, whitey tapes and etc.
I think The only way to bring him down is to actually prove beyond any doubt some of these alegations.
I for one DO NOT trust this guy if he makes it to the Oval office.
Please do not blast me; for all I’m doing is asking if there is some way to make a stronger stand and bring out the real truth about Obama.
#9 Hillgirl on 06.28.08 at 8:04 am
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I say, go to work Hillgirl! Draft a letter and if you like, we’ll all provide feedback and then we’ll post it to the Action Center.
Good morning Pumas! We have an action alert for our weekend, thanks to Murphy – to grow our Puma lion pride! Let’s get cracking Pumas!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/unity-not-so-mu.html?cid=120442376#comments
My comment, but I don’t think it posted:
Strays? From the …herd? What we have witnessed and continue to witness in this primary is the complete degradation of the American voter. Clinton supporters have already been vilified in every way imaginable; in the case of FL and MI, they are considered half-voters by their own party. Obama will have to live (and lose) from the consequences of that strategy. I’m sure he’ll get over it.
With the advent of of PUMA, we’ll get over it, too. PUMA members have the intelligence, the humanity, and the integrity to object to being “corralled”.
#103 ABinNY,
Yes, I’ve noticed how much they enjoy saying “ass” and tittering like elementary school children.
“the only asses are them.” LOL!
#5 prplvette85 on 06.28.08 at 7:57 am
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Good job Puma prplvette85! We need some new Puma cubbies and kittens!
Hello everybody–checking in. WELCOME to all the new voices at this site. WOW !!!
Murphy–I had a good chuckle with the graphic at the top of this thread. Thanks, and thanks for all you are doing to keep this going.
#12 Henrietta- You have touched on what will be revealed –hopefully sooner rather than later. What the Democratic party is trying to do is to manipulate BO into this position at all costs. They take no prisoners–they will bring out everything they have to squash this counter movement. WE are the real story here. WE are trying to make the Dem. Party wake up and see that their corruption has plumbed too deeply into America.
WE are the new Boston Tea Party. WE are the revolutionaries, and the battles will get ugly. They are trying to dismiss us, laugh at us, scorn us, malign us, lie about us, and since they are so entrenched with today’s forms of media, they have so many powerful means at their disposal to do so.
For me now–it’s not so much about Hillary, though she will always have my heart–it’s about changing this country to do things the way the Founding Fathers intended–minus a few oversights they had towards women’s rights.
We can see what’s happening right before our eyes, and we have to fight back now–not wait until some future Bob Woodward writes the tell-all book and gets rich. I didn’t live through the 60s, wearing my tie-dyed shirt humming Dylan and Baez to see this country turn this way.
I want some day for us to have a wonderful woman president. I want some day for us to have a wonderful African American president, a Latino president, an Asian president…a Vulcan–heck (though birth certificate issues may occur with that)
But what they are doing is more than creating tire tracks from this metaphorical bus across our hearts–they have become a new type of tyranny, cloaked in the illusion of democracy.
#113 antifish on 06.28.08 at 11:17 am
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LOL! So true.
#12 Henerietta on 06.28.08 at 8:23 am
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Excellant analysis. Thanks for sharing!
I’m wearing my “ONE IN 18 MILLION” wristband and sent one to Murphy last night.
I am a Just Say NO to BO believer and Just Say Yes to McCain second choicer.
I still hope for a miracle in Denver but will never accept what the DNC did during the primary.
Have a great day. Stay cool!
#109 k in northwest,
Don’t put too much stock in polls. Several are being manipulated for propaganda purposes. Gallup is reputable.
Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Still Tied at 44%June 27, 2008
For the third straight day, Gallup Poll Daily tracking shows Barack Obama and John McCain tied in national registered voter preferences for the fall election, each now with 44% of the vote.
#109 k in the northwest
Don’t worry – be faithful and tenacious in your message. We are still a young movement – and we are growing. It’s amazing that we have grown at the rate we have without money and much media attention. You just watch – now that we are – our movement can only increase. This was supposed to be the Democrats year – McCain should be losing by double digits (Gallup still has BO and McCain separated by 4 points). Remember that Gergen said if there is only a single digit difference by the convention – the democrats are in trouble. Stay strong my friends and don’t worry – we are PUMAs and we will have the last roar!
Good morning PUMAs! I hope everyone has recuperated from that Hillary/Obambi speech yesterday. I have, that is all a show orchestrated by the DNC so they can win in November. What is bothering me is how the media behaves lately, showing propaganda favoring Obambi, it is all about him. Yesterday I was watching “Stupid” Chris Matthews, this ass has two ladies on his show and the first words coming out of his mouth were “Hillary supporters have an attitude”. This is outrageous, all of the sudden the media forgot that this is USA, that we have freedom of speech, just like them, and a right to vote. I always have a say poundering in my head, “My vote is my voice”, the media, DNC, and Obambi, cannot take that away from me. My only true leader is Senator Clinton, Amen.
#118 Taylorgrob
Where can I get a 1 in 18 Million bracelet?
Thanks
#23 prplvette85 on 06.28.08 at 9:06 am
Rendell drank the kool aid check out this link over at confluence:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
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Pumas here in Pennsylvania. Sounds like we need to send a respectful note to ‘correct’ our good Gov Rendell in his thinking toward our Puma mission. Hounds my a##!
Contact the Governor’s Office:
Governor Edward G. Rendell’s Office
225 Main Capitol Building
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17120
Phone: (717) 787-2500
Fax: (717) 772-8284
http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Governor/govmail.html
#75 ABinNY – you should hear me – there is only me in my apt but I’m talking back to those idiots on the MSM all the time – i try to keep it down cuz if anyone heard me – I’d probably be hauled away
Also, in my paper this am was article about the dog & unity pony show – cont to 2nd pg & along side was reprint (kinda) of WaPo article yest about Pumas, etc. MSM seems to be obsessed with Party Unity My Ass – suppose because it’s catchier than People United Means Action – but the first title allows them to giggle like little kids hearing their first (OMG) dirty word which in turn kind of demeans our movement……….kind of hard now to reverse that but…………….still waiting for my t shirt which should help & also our flyers should help too………………
Good Morning PUMAS
What I’m so upset about is that they still don’t get a big part of why some are so upset, they insist it is “sour grapes” blah,blah,blah….. That is so far from the real issues.
The DNC is trying to shove someone we don’t believe in down our throats and we are tired of it and tired of them.
I’ve seen some of us out there talking to the MSM and they are doing wonderful! Please keep up the good work being our voice.
#122 FLgayGuy4Hill,
are you Gaygay from HillaryClinton.com?
You are right:#83 FLgayGuy4Hill
We must make this organization a reform movement toward democracy. The democratic party has spit upon the will of the voter by allowing all sorts of shenanigans, shuck and jive in the caucuses, and disenfranchising millions of voters from their rightful voice in this primary process.
In truth, the process has been broken for a long time. I live in Indiana. I voted for president for the first time in KY in 1972. In all that time as a voter, I have had no voice in the primary. By the time my home state or adopted state has their primary, the nominee has already been selected: Until this election! Hillary Clinton gave us this great gift. She did not stand idly by and allow the party or the pundits to make the selection. Instead, she stood head and shoulders above them in principle and gave us all a voice.
This is what the PUMA movement and all other related movements must do. We have a voice, and we need to use it to change the way we elect our leaders. Nothing less is acceptable.
Heneri
#115 The problem at its most simplistic root is the idea that any political party can subject YOUR vote in this democracy to THEIR rules…
#112 AniEm,
Great post! Way to get the word out.
#118 taylorgrob on 06.28.08 at 11:21 am
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Hey taylorgrob! It’s the artist formerly know as ‘undecided but leaning’ on hrc.com! I’m so glad to see you here! Now answer us all this question: where in the heck can we all get those bracelets?
#129 sorry antifish – didn’t read the whole blog & just now saw your ref – similar to mine – does this mean great minds think alike???????????????????
#54 antifish regarding my “thank you antifish” in #53 I shoud have stated thatyou did not instruct me personally on how to cut and paste…but I thought I read one of your post several days ago and you told someone else how to do it…I’m sorry if I was wrong and I’m also sorry if I was too forward….hopefully I will get better at this.
Does anyone have a link to the bill that Sen Nelson (I believe) has introduced to enact major election reforms? I think all Pumas should bone up on this bill and it may just be something we can help push/or change to make it better in our actions.
124 Susie1945…I also live in an upstairs apartment but my son and his family live below so I can scream loud enough to be heard in space!
#132 PumaRhythm on 06.28.08 at 11:28 am
Sorry if I missed you posting before, but this is the first time I noticed you here. Hey, welcome aboard PumaRhythm!
#131 Susie1945,
Indeed, they do!
Thanks AbinNY – me too – small bldg – 3 floors & I’m on 3rd flr – I’m beginning to resemble those stereotypical old people who go around muttering to themselves –
I really should have read blog from #1 down – looks like we all have great minds & think alike…………;)
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House
Posting this again for newcomers who may not have signed
I also believe out message needs to be taken to the street because of BO and the Mainstream Media’s internet control.
This is the same vehicle that Bush used to sell the propaganda on the war (through MSM) under the threat of being called unpatriotic, a threat to security, etc., (i.e., now “racists, whiners, pro-McCain) to discredit opposition, facts contrary to their case for going to war.
We all know how that has turned out.
They (MSM’s) were also threatened with being blacklisted from access to the White House’s “scoops and stories” if they did not “fall in line”.
We are now being “blacklisted” from MSM blogs, etc.
Remember when Hillary told voters that BHO was taking his tactics right out of the Bush-Cheney-Rove playbook?
She wasn’t kidding.
We need a work-a-round to having our voices shut down – and remember – a huge core of Hillary Voters were Seniors, under 50,000 income, working families with not a lot of access ot time to get on the interent. If the MSM isn’t repoting the truth about BHO, or accurately portraying our existence, our numbers, our protest issues, how are they going to know, join us, and know they are not alone when it comes to “not falling in line” or falling for the fear-tactics of the rights and representation we will lose if we don’t back BHO.
They do not know who backs him, who he really is and how he and the DNC disinfranchised them and are destroyng the power of their vote.
1000 flyers at .06 is $60.00 – that’s 6 cents per post on a blog that is not getting through or being misrepresented while we are raising money for ads.
Another vehicle is to place “personal notices”, in every paper. “STOLE OUR VOTES – FIND OUT HOW”
With an 800 # and a message on the issues. They can’t block that or sabatoge that!
#83 GayguyforHill – I agree with not being known
as only against Obama. However we should be focused
on defeating him to prove our point to the DNC that we
are a force to be reckoned with. A protest vote is a must. If they win this election through all their dirty
tactics we will be powerless in the future. Please
everyone even if you don’t like McCain consider it
a protest vote. One democrat voting for Mccain is
2 votes BO has to make up for.
Where can we get the bracelet or is it a rubber wrist band – don’t care – want one – whine, whine – gRRRRR
Thanks PA4HILL08.
#109 K in the Northwest
Not to worry, there are people investigating Noname. No Quarters had some articles yesterday that you may find interesting. I’ll post the links later.
#139 wontbackdown – like your ideas – is this an action item or should we just start?
#126 Beca4Hillary
No, I’m not him. I’ve heard great things about his posts. Wish we could find him. I’m sure he is part of the NoDeal movement in some capacity.
About the polls… this one looks more accurate to me:
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/straw-poll
I especially like the first comment about the post turtle.
JOHN11:10AMJun 27th 2008
Subj: FW: Post Turtle
While suturing a cut on the hand of a Texas Rancher whose hand had been caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually, the topic got around to Obama and his bid for the presidency.
The old rancher said, Well, ya know, Obama is a ‘post turtle’.
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked, ‘What is a post turtle’?
The old rancher said, When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘post turtle’.
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain.
‘You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he sure as heck doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there and you just wonder what kind of an idiot put him there in the first place.’
#132 Puma Rhythm,
I’m sorry, I missed that sentence in your post. Thank you so much, and I’m glad I could help. If you ever need further help, please send me an email.
antifishpuma@gmail.com
137 Susie1945… I also mutter to myself…. and I made my own version of the PUMA business card and I leave them everywhere. On counters in stores, in restaurants, I was trying on clothes in Macy’s the other day and left one in evey dressing room. Wonder if any PUMAs here found one.
#144 FLgayGuy4Hill,
Where are u in FL? I live in Orlando.
#143 Susie1945… I really believe that we should some how join forces on a VERY FOCUSED EFFORT to coordinate a massive launch with ONE MESSAGE and a way to BROADCAST THAT ONE MESSAGE – to get people to KNOW they have an option!
As time goes on, more and more people are protesting and not just women. We may be the most vocal at this point, but we are not the only angry voters. My dad lives in KY, is going to be 79 on August 12, and is a great big Hillary fan. He plans to write her in. He says, otherwise, he has nobody to vote for.
My husband and his whole motorcycle club, (all men but two) are also angry. All of them have asked me how to write in our candidate. There are at least 15 of them in a small town club.
We have to find a way to make the media stand up and notice that this is not just an angry mob of women. We have to find a way to make them actually report on what is real, not the fairy tale that the DNC is pushing.
I believe they think they are doing the country a diservice if they report the truth. The idea, it seems to me, is to promote unity. If they report on disunity, they think they have not done their job. What we have to do is find a way to make them see that exposing DNC corruption and the dissatisfaction among democratic voters is the patriotic and right thing to do. I don’t know how to do that, but that is what we need to figure out.
Heneri
#98 TXPuma LOL he IS a hump!
ABinNY:
ABinNY:
Business cards are a great idea. Can you share a copy of those post cards? I would love to have some to distribute. I live in a VERY conservative (Republican) County in Northern California, but I have printed out a few flyers and will post them around town.
#128 dmrr – you are right—how dare they! It’s my vote.
All – just read the Rendell rant re: HOUNDS and Riverdaughter’s excellent response. A must read.
The fact that he has even created a “HOUNDS” and acknowledges the PUMAS as a threat tells you what effect we are having.
I’m so impressed with us.
Oh, and someday a Native American president too. (regarding my earlier list)
#148 beca4Hillary
I’m not too far – Tampa. We are everywhere and this state will be a huge component to our mission/strategy/victory.
I am guilty of sitting here venting more than half of my time that could be used passing out flyers and answering a caller (if we had a call line set up) like those “prayer lines”.
All the while time is ticking and there is only so much time to raise money and meet deadlines for Newspapers ads before the convention and November, right?
#101 DancesWithPumas I think we PUMA’s and our compatriot groups should make a note of your Ghandi quote, we may need to recite this mantra when it gets really ugly, They are “laughing” at us now, so the next stage is the fight, It gonna get ugly…
“First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.”
Mahatma Gandhi
Here is Riverdaughter’s response for those PUMAs who have not read it….it’s just perfect!
Nice try, Ed, but HOUND sounds an awful lot like Yellow Dog Democrats and that’s exactly what we are not. To be fair, you make a lot of good points. The caucuses *are* un-democratic. And I will admit that you were loyal to Hillary to the very end. Even now, we understand the nature of your loyalty. Hillary’s and your identities are inextricably wed to the Democratic party until death do you part. There is a lot to admire in that and the allusion to you not being “high class” is just part of the song and not to be taken seriously. No one has shown more class than Hillary and the stalwarts who stood by her.
But here is what you seem to not understand from the voters’ point of view. First, many of us are *not* planning to vote for John McCain. But if John McCain happens to win by default, we will not have a guilt trip laid on *US* for all the floods, famines and earthquakes that follow. The delegates, superdelegates and party leaders had a choice.
You would have us vote for Obama because Hillary asked us to. But, Ed, we are (or were) Democrats. We are not Republicans. If is not in our nature to fall into line when our consciences are on the line. We did it for Dukakis, Mondale, Kerry (we actually *liked* Gore) but we can’t do it for Obama. And you unintentionally allude to all the reasons why Obama is an exception in your letter. We have good reason to suspect that he is not for S-CHIP, CAF standards, equal pay for women, reproductive rights, universal healthcare, the Green Economy or ending the war in Iraq. For the last item, as well as preventing our country from falling into an economic disaster caused by financial “instruments” and the high cost of oil, we do not think he is ready or capable of assuming the office of president of the United States. Nothing in his debate appearances or comedic and disrespectful monologues at rally events (Brush the dirt off your shoulder much, Ed? I know YOU would never do it, so why should our nominee?) give us confidence in his abilities. He has deliberately kept his policies as vague as possible as a campaign strategy in order to lure the independent, libertarian and disaffected moderate Republican voters while at the same time slamming working class, Appalachians and the small town voters in your own state.
And let me tell you about those voters, Ed, the ones I spoke with on the phone, hundreds and hundreds of them. They were stung by the accusations of racism that were hurled at them because they didn’t think Obama was ready. That hurt them to the core of their beings. It attacked their character. No Democratic candidate in my lifetime has ever treated the voters so disgracefully.
You may have noticed I haven’t brought up the subject of sexism yet. The media and others have mischaracterized the PUMA movement as a reaction to it from the post-meonpausal set. But our protest is based on the fact that our party (or former party) did not choose the best *person* for the job. Many of us were early on very intrigued by Senator Obama. But once we got beyond the fact that he is very smart, we saw that there was no wisdom that went along with it. At the same time, we saw that his campaign operatives took a slash and burn attitude to the Democratic party that was in existence. His hooligans chased off or forced off women from the bigger more influential online outlets, yours truly included. I was thrown off DailyKos in January. That’s why I’m here. That’s why a lot of us have found ourselves on the outside of the party looking in at an ever shrinking voter constituency. Systematically, Senator Obama’s hooligans have made women, working class, Appalachians, latinos, gays, native Americans, Asians, Muslim Americans and the elderly personas non grata. Obama sought to recreate the party in a different image, one that didn’t include the poor, the dependent, the entitled to social security, the unpopular.
Is this new Democratic party the one you want me and the other PUMAs to rally around? No, Ed. No. The biggest mistake Clinton made during the primary season was not that she didn’t win the caucuses. The biggest mistake was that she was too nice to Obama and failed to pin him down. She failed to make him solidify out of all of the ethereal smoke he consisted of. He kept himself and his policies nebulous and indistinct so that his young, pretentious and more conservative voters could project whatever politician they wanted on to him. Forcing him to take a stand on something, *anything* would have broken off a chunk of those deluded voters. But one thing the PUMAs can say for sure is that he doesn’t resemble any Democrat we’ve ever seen nor does he adhere to any of our most cherished core Democratic principles. If he had, he couldn’t have attracted so many people not of our party in a year when the vast majority of voters didn’t want a Republican lite candidate anyway. Obama has actually squandered an opportunity. The voters were more than ready to accept a strong Democrat and we are giving them, what, exactly?
Either we all go forward together or the party deserves to lose in November. Either Senator Obama connects with the base or he loses them in November. Either the party power elite listens to the voters or it deserves to lose in November. We would be stupid if we demanded any less. We do not subscribe to the old saying, “Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?” but apparenly Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Senator Obama do.
Here’s what we want: We want a fair, open and transparent convention in Denver. We want Florida and Michigan’s delegates to be restored to full strength. We want Obama to give up his Michigan delegates. After all, he keeps insisting that he never wanted his name on the ballot in the first place. So, we should honor his wishes: no ballot position, no delegates. After all, if Hillary can’t make the same argument about all of the voters who couldn’t get to the caucuses in spite of their intent to vote for her, Obama shouldn’t get freebies from Michigan by having the RBC honoring the imaginary voters who failed to turn up during a record breaking turnout for the Michigan primary in January.
Jeez, Ed, and you guys call *us* stupid. Logic has been completely missing from this campaign season. By February 5, 2008, Hillary had won MI, FL, NV, NH, CA, NY, NJ, MA, AZ, TN, AR and a handlful of other little states. In any other year, Obama would have thrown in the towel and gone home. In 1980, Ted Kennedy won a big slice of these very same states and with a 600 delegate deficit, he *still* created havoc at the convention. But this year, we couldn’t even honor the states that moved up their primaries so that they could make a difference? Like my state, NJ? We are going to a convention where the candidate who has won the biggest Democratic prizes and swing states has been almost completely shut out and you are asking us to accept this, get over our disappointment, anger and frustration? Fine. We’re over it. But we still insist, no demand, that our votes count for something. I want the millions that my state spent on a primary in lieu of spending even one dime on gifted and talented education to be honored. The party owes us that much.
And if it goes against their beautiful theories and plans for party unity (shmoonity), if it ends up with a win for a person who they apparently loathe, along with all of that honorable candidate’s 18 million voters, well, too bad. They will not get party unity until they honor the voters, Ed.
Pumas are watchful and patient. And when the time is right, they strike. There is still time to achieve unity. There are two months before the convention. But if the voters aren’t honored by then, we strike.
For different perspectives, check out myiq2xu’s version at Klownhaus and Reclusive Leftist’s most excellent post on Leverage.
And what has got to be one of the funniest comments I have read since MABlue declared that Donna Brazile had provoked in him negative feelings towards the South American country, Karolina NYC presents this comparison of the day in the life of a Dog vs a Cat.
HOUND = Hillary (Pres), BHO (VP), United, Not, Divided
I could live with that!
I feel like we are 21st century suffragettes. This is a fabulous and progressive movement. Eleanor Roosevelt would be very proud of us; and I believe she’d be an active participant.
Hello all, Great posts everyone. What a brilliant group!
I just watched the Larry King Live video (posted at Just Say No Deal). Cynthia (can’t recall her last name) was very good, I thought. But as I was watching and as I have watched others, like Ellen Malcolm , talk about the reasons we should support Obama I had a thought. They are saying that we need to support Obama because of the Democratic agenda (healthcare, economy, war, etc.) but my thought was they are talking about an agenda not a leader. Additionally, what evidence do we have that Obama would implement this agenda? He has no record upon which we can base our decision. I think that is what we mean when we say ‘no experience’. We have no guarantees that this man will follow this agenda, particularly when he keeps backtracking on his promises.
Hi PumaRhythm and welcome
Okay my PUMAs – I have to head out for the day. I will carry our message in my travels. See you all later tonight!!
Terrig
I e-mailed Murphy to give permission for her to share my gmail with you, but it came back undeliverable. I’ll try again. Murphy, please share my e-mail with Terrig. How do we get through to you.
K in the North west
Here’s one of the NQ articles you may interesting.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/27/recently-unsealed-documents-reveal-obama-deeply-embroiled-in-rezko-case/#more-3276
#152 stella49
I would love to share them, not sure how to do that on this site or the action site. I’d be happy to email them to anyone who wants them…email me at
imgba at optonline dot net
#24 Swiss4Hillary on 06.28.08 at 9:07 am
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And of course, do not read the comments on this blog item unless you want your blood pressure to go through the roof! The bots just cannot accept the reality, that indeed she does hold a mandate of 18 million votes, more than any other Presidential candidate in US history. With that comes an extreme amount of power within the Party ranks. She will be a name to be reckoned with going well into the future, down ticket dems will be clamoring for her favors, and the bots just really need to ‘GET OVER IT’! LOL! I just had to say that…
murphy@pumapac.org
“Take Back YOUR VOTE” or maybe better…
“WANT TO TAKE BACK YOUR VOTE? WE ARE! FIND OUT HOW!”
I do “voice-overs” on audio. An 800-outgoing message line is a great way to get the message out.
How do people know to call it?
The business cards are cheap 10,000 for $9.00
Message:
“WANT TO TAKE BACK YOUR VOTE? WE ARE!
Call 800-000-0000
AND FIND OUT HOW WE ARE SAYING: BARACK OBAMA – NO VOTE!”
PumaPac.org – http://www.pumapac.org
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I read that this morning GayGuy and am mad as hell. Have got to do my part to stop this madness!
#160 terrig: “HOUND = Hillary (Pres), BHO (VP), United, Not, DividedI could live with that!”
I couldn’t. This lying, arrogant, slick, divisive empty suit, is not worthy of my vote, at any level.
Mayor0102 my email is terrigoodman@hotmail.com. If the trolls get it I will clean my computer again! I seem to have to do it almost daily anymore anyway. But that seems to be the price you pay.
#146 antifish Thanks!
2nd Reply to my Letter to the Editor of last week is below. I snail mailed a flyer to this person writing a note on the flyer that this was the path I am to follow and that I had the utmost regard for her and her family.
Title: Careful what you vote for
In response to recent letters from _____and _____, I, too am a registered Democrat; registered because I believe in the ideals of the party. To vote for a candidate who did not possess the majority of my own values goes against everything I stand for as a politically active United States citizen. I am not happy with everything the party has done nationally, but I say to you, do not vote one issue, do not vote gender and do not vote race. Vote your ideals. One last note to the women who did not get their candidate: Be careful what you wish for (vote for), you just might get four more years of oppression. Name and City
Concerning the “write-in” option. I posted this last night (more like early this morning) and didn’t get any replies…it was late though.
Just wondering what the consensus is.
” I’m new here, so I’m a bit confused at some who say they’ll write in HRC, or sit out the election if BHO is the nominee.
Wouldn’t anything short of an actual vote for McCain still essentially end up being a vote for BHO?
Sure we know who the best candidate REALLY is, but don’t we have to be wise and practical as well…. I can’t stand the thought of making a symbolic gesture that would actually help BHO into office….ghastly thought!”
All of those PRObama sites are underestimating us, calling us the “fringe”. We are growing daily, I have talked to so many this past week who are starting to see through his lies.
http://mlets.wordpress.com/
Terrig
Thanks. I’ll contact you early part of next week. I’m off to the beach.
#167 ABinNY on 06.28.08 at 11:45 am
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If you have project ideas or information that you want added to our Action Center, you can visit the Center, click on the link to the Projects and Coordinators listing, and you’ll find all the Puma emails/project contacts you need.
PP Action Center:
http://pumapacusa.org
OR….
“WANT TO TAKE BACK YOUR VOTE? WE ARE!
Call 800-000-0000
AND FIND OUT HOW WE ARE SAYING: DNC – NO VOTE – WE WON’T FALL IN LINE!
Okay PUMAS – some might be offended by this – I thought it was funnier than hell but go to this website & click on the video – was done by hireheels – ya know Diane – our superstar on tv – started justsaynodeal-
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com/
I have weird sense of humor anyway…………..
#167 ABinNY, my e-mail is whimsy00@comcast.net
Thanks!
#178 PA4HILL08… okay. You are right. I need to follow the rules somewhere that respects them!
#109 k in the northwest
The answer to your question is to read different polls. Gallup has the two candidate tied dead even. Use one of the links posted here to go to the aol poll where McCain is slamming Obama. Ignore media polls (abc, cnn, etc.). We already know they are extremely biased for BO.
#159
As i posted on Riverdaughter’s site, if a politico as entrenched as Rendell has to go to the trouble to develop Hound to counteract PUMA, then PUMA has Democrats running scared and that’s amazing for a four-week old grassroots movement. Everyone here should be proud of what you’ve accomplished.
#163 TrishfromCanada Thanks! Glad to be here.
Mayor0102 – Thanks, great day for the beach. I am stuck with 1 year old twins. I will definately need a margarita tonight!
Have a great day!
Thank you for this site. It helps with the depression, especially after yesterday.
Nobama
I saw clips of the staged “Unity” thing yesterday. It was evident when noname spoke that he had no respect for Hillary.
Every time he touched her I wanted to scream. It literally made me sick. My heart was racing, my head was pounding, and my bp was sky high. That is why I could not post last night..
I just laid on the bed in the dark all evening.
In our paper today it said that they were sending our reserve unit back for another year in Iraq. My husband’s son is in that unit. He already has served a year over there..
Now Tom says he can’t vote for McCain. I can not vote for noname, and I will not. If it is not Hillary, it will be McCain.
McCain has been doing some dumb things lately. Are we a large enough group (all other sites included) to take this election away from noname??
I am still trying to get over yesterday.
I am proud of Bill, and the fact that he had a staff member say he would support noname. Don’t campaign for him Bill. There is nothing more those
corrupt people can do to you..
Our Party is broken. The DNC is corrupt, and must be broken up. This Party needs to start anew. The only way we can do this is to make John McCain President..
Talk with you later..
Purrs…
Murphy Thanks so much for your inspiration and creativity!
Here’s my idea (maybe for NLee).
We each have our grievances. But for me, the # 1 unforgivable offense was the cold, calculated tactic of the BO campaign to peel off the AA vote by portraying the Clintons as racist. Not only was that character assassination by design, but I believe it has deteriorated race relations in our country, and divided the party by class, sex, and race.
I would love to see a video which chronicles this: i.e.
Jesse Jackson Jr. on TV after NH saying, “Hillary cried for herself, but she didn’t cry for Katrina”; the distortions of the LBJ and Mandela remarks; the twisting and circulation of Ferraro’s statement; the portrayal of Bill’s Jesse Jackson (political spin) comment as race-baiting; BO giving moral equivalence in his Philly speech to granny and Ferraro with the hateful Rev. Wright.
Video could show how Clyburn and Kennedy stoked the flame and how the media poured gasoline on it.
Maybe this would expose this fraud of a Unifier.
I’m sorry Murphy – did not mean to slight you – you are also a TV superstar – wish we could get you & diane together on MSM -
#123 FLgayGuy4Hill and #131 PA4HILL08
I couldn’t find any wristbands so I ordered them myself from: http://goodsforgiving.com/w-ds.html
I ordered 20 in light blue medium for a cost of $42.00 and have been giving them to friends and family. The words I used were: ONE IN 18 MILLION
I had recommended on a few sites that they sell them as a fundraiser but no one responded.
PA4HILL, I heard on Normita’s site Hillaryvillagers that you were here with a new name. So glad the village is alive and staying firm.
I need to run an errand–hope to see you again soon.
If all 18 million of us write Hillary in, she will be elected. The deal is: it takes appx 40% of the electorate to elect on a viable 3 candidate slate. I want to remind everyone that Hillary had MORE POPULAR VOTES IN A PRIMARY THAN ANY OPPOSED CANDIDATE IN THE NATION’S HISTORY OF PRIMARIES. That means she beat John McCain too!
I believe a write in campaign would do three things:
1. Make Hillary president
2. Cost Obama the election
3. Reform the nation’s voting methods
At the very least, it would keep Obama out of the presidency.
Isn’t that what we want?
Heneri
#149 ABinNY… I saw your post about “business cards”. I am going out to order mine now. Excellent!
#191 Henerietta… that is certainly my LIST!
Oh christ! It wasn’t enough that kennedy, obama, gore, kerry, and others from the “We don’t need people. We need checks.” camp were emailing me… now my email box is graced with the likes of Donna Brazile.
Go PUMA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alert everyone – On riverdaughter’s site there is a video & pictures from the rally yesterday – taken by two guys (Gary & Mawm(john who was on fox) – verrrrrry interesting……………….and there is more to come…………….obama and his supporters are thugs, crooks, and just plain rotten & this is shown on the video……………..
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/pumas-at-unity/#comment-55618
see for yourself…….. & hear………….
Hello everyone! Looks like we’re mainstreamed — check out yesterday’s Washington Post article “Hill Yes, O No” that features us, Murphy, and JustSayNoDeal, as well as many other of our compatriots…..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/26/AR2008062604162_2.html
I had never seen this before from hireheals. It is hysterical.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xhJnXl4kIA
It seems to me that voting for Obama’s opponent is the most effective way to defeat Obama (even if it means we will be struck by lightning as soon as we pull that lever!) Staying home, writing in Senator Clinton’s name (check the regs for your state before doing this), or voting for a third part, only serves to dilute the numbers.
I’ll know what I’m going to do by late October, early November. One thing I know I won’t be doing is casting a vote for Obama.
I also think the obots are encouraging people to cast a write-in, knowing full well, that in some cases those votes will be credited to Obama.
#197 middle age female – that’s the video I saw on Uppity woman’s site – it is hysterical – I think we should send email to those guys – Hannity, Limbaugh, OReilly, Morning Joe with a link to the hireheels video – those women pumas rock……………………….
192 wontbackdown
I’ll send you mine ready for printing on laser or inkjet printer, I also sent them to the action center. email me or give me your email
imgba@optonline.net
#175
Any choice is fine. Worst-case scenario: IF O were to be elected, he is already seriously crippled by lack of support within his own party which is also seriously crippled. This is the first time I can recall that so members of a political party are actively campaigning AGAINST the (presumed) party nominee. The Repubs will exploit this for all its worth.
#109 K in the Northwast
Polls are a matter of accuracy and validity. The accuracy is determined by the number of people sampled. The validity is a question of who is sampled. Good reference: http://www.stonescryout.org/archives/2005/08/statistical_sig.html .
One of the more reputable polls is the Gallup Poll. Most others you are hearing about are affifiated with their own interests.
This is why I won’t change my mind, we have to stick together for this cause!
http://comealongway.blogspot.com/2008/06/hillary-clinton-is-not-for-sale-help.html
Maybe the best thing we could do, as a group, is to find out how to write in our candidate in our respective states or districts. Then we need to do the door to door campaiging thing, putting a flier with that information on every citizen’s door.
I also have a number of lists of registered voters from the election when I was working as a vol. for Hillary. We could call them, or do a mass mailing to them with the write in information. I think this would be a good thing to start.
Heneri
Good morning from the West Coast. Woke up this sunny morning to the Oregonian’s, top page 2 lead article headline: Clinton Die-hards Blog their Discord. PUMAs made it to print here in Nobama OREGON. I call this a big deal that they even ran with it and gave it the inside front page-page 2, half-page positioning/space. Although the overall slant would lead readers to think that Pumas are all women, there were some pretty good messages regarding our internet presence and how today’s internet is playing a formidable role in ’08.
Below are just a few excerpts I thought you all would enjoy:
“…JustSayNoDeal.com has become a clearinghouse for the renegade forces that are now confounding Democratic Party officials and Obama campaignn operatives.” (good sign & word choice, “confounding”)
“…[Pumas] effectiveness of the Internet as an organizing tool for dissent is creating concern and uncertainty about the scope an intensity of those unwilling to fall in line. Many in this loose confederation have embraced a mantra that runs counter to the notion of reconciliation…they are linked by their dissatisfaction with the primary process and its result and are unpersuaded by [yesterday's] Clinton’s gestures.
Also included a quote by Robin Murray, an Indianapolis therapist and social worker who I believe is one of our Pumas?…”The vote is a protest vote..I view it in a holistic way. It says, we will not be controlled and manipulated by these singular issues in order to cast a vote that we feel is deceitful, negative, there is just no pretty way to say it–they [DNC] cheated.”
Given that the Oregonian is as biased as all the rest, and this article was peppered throughout and ended with typical Obama praise points, the fact that we Pumas were even given this large column space is fantastic and a good sign that our voice (roar) is being heard.
I will be sending The Oregonian a Puma letter later today.
Keep up the great work folks and have a great Puma weekend.
Polls are also a major game of the MSM because they actually infulence campaign contributions. It is all about the money. Get those candidates spending on the media!
30 kids1627 on 06.28.08 at 9:24 am
You mentioned August 28th being the historic date of Martin Luther King’s “I Have a Dream” Speech; and that this year’s Convention is the 45th year anniversary of that speech. But 1963 was also the year John F Kennedy got assassinated.
Well, here’s another tidbit for you, and the reason I THINK BHO is being pushed by the DNC.
Five years later, in 1968, when Bobbie Kennedy was assassinated, the country was once again in an uproar. The Democratic National Convention was held in Chicago of that same year, on August 26, 2008. The mayor then, Richard M. Daley, (one of BHO’s major supporters), was most responsible for the riots that occured.
Bobby Kennedy was the party’s nominee but when he got shot the party was in an uproar to find a replacement during that Convention. I think Hurbert Humphrey was nominated in his stead.
Anyway, I’ve tried posting this several times here, but with all the activity, I don’t think many of you caught on to what I am saying. Namely,
This year’s nomination of BHO is because of saving the KENNEDY LEGACY, and I think Ted Kennedy has been a major backer of BHO and starting from John Kerry’s 2004 bid for the presidency.
I also remember BHO saying that when he became a senator, the first person he went to see and to learn from was the “Lion” himself.
When, in the ArgusLeader Electorial Board Committee meeting Hillary mentioned 1968, she wasn’t hinting at BHO being killed as many media played it… she was trying desperately to tel media and us, to do our homework and to research that year’s convention and Daley’s relationship with BHO.
IMO
[to be continued... ]
Perhaps our commerical should focus on writing Hillary’s name in for president. 18 million people sure can swing this election.
on #204, I forgot one little detail, see video “Bruise Hillary”.
I do not know if the timing of this years convention is just a well planned, well thought out process in which the DNC has devised from the start. My guess is that it has had the agenda of nominationg Barry Obama from the very beginning. And so, I see many similarities about this year’s Democratic National Convention and the one held in August 26, 1968. That was the year, Robert Kennedy were assassinated; just 5 years after the assassination of his brother John F Kennedy and then of course Martin Luther King. 1968 was also the year RFK was the party’s nomination and the year Hubert Humphrey got the nomination in Robert Kennedy’s stead. He did not win. And if history repeats itself, neither will Obama.
“Today in 1968, the Democratic National Convention opened in Chicago, Illinois. The purpose of the convention was to choose a Democratic nominee for the Presidency of the United States, but it was much more. The four-day gathering became a symbol of the divisions present in American society during the late 1960’s and is today viewed as one of the defining events of that decade.”
mattstodayinhistory.blogspot.com — The Chicago Convention, August 26, 1968
My conclusion is that this year’s convention is also symbolic to the DNC and the reason they have been pushing BHO to get the nomination all along. It was a cleverly layed plot. It is no mere coincidence that the DNC ruled Hillary out. And in my opinion this was the reason Hillary mentioned RFK a few weeks ago during her ArgusLeader interview. She wasn’t emphasising the assassination, but trying to reveal the DNC’s plot to get BHO nominated. To save face on a very unpleasant time in or nation’s history. In short, this campaign has and was all about race and color from the beginning. It was a way of washing away the sins of the past. A way to devest the Democrats of their civil rights guilt. And this gala event, a way to celebrate the 40th year of Rober F. Kennedy, the man once quoted for saying: in 40 years this country will be ready to elect a black president. And if you remember in the 2004 August Convention Mr. O was given acculades by both pary and media for his Keynote Address; they saying at the time, that he, Mr. O was being primed to be the next presidential candidate. That is also the reason BHO’s first tv advertisement was a photo op of himself giving John Kerry’s introductory speech. There are no coincidences in politics my friends and John Kerry is also in league with the DNC to nominate BHO along with his friend Ted Kennedy; in my opinion.
This campaign season was an inside job from Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reed, and let us not forget about Ted Kennedy who wanted to write the history on his family’s name, as well as John Kerry who lost the election in 2004 by giving Mr O the nod through that Keynote speech. This entire primary season has been more about Ted Kennedy’s legacy than Bill Clinton’s ever was! Let us also not forget that only a few short weeks ago, in an interview Mr O proudly proclaimed having gone to Ted Kennedy upon his arrival as state senator from Illinios. At the time, he said to learn from the Lion himself. One would only have to guess what they spoke about during those meetings.
Wake Up, People!
Your Party has betrayed you!
Repost from my own website forum, at
http://www.cosmeta.com/_Forums/view_topic.php?id=1312&forum_id=57&highlight=1968
Bo is on C-Span right now pandering to the Latino community.
I am latina, and NO WAY JOSE! He can go and pee in another tree…
CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS
The more I think about the early campaign and with what I know now about BO, the more convinced that his start-up money was dirty. Those rigs he pulled out at the unity deal are expensive. It seemed like he had them from the start and he was putting on alot of big parties for young voters. Food, drink, entertainment from dirty money gets laundered campaign contributions. Is there any way PUMA can get involved in any investigations? Or ask what is being done?
Two things Pumas – no advertising write in votes for Hillary – if she has not paid for that privilege in your state – vote will go to you know who – vote for someone else – means no vote for possum chief – hold your nose if you have to but defeat this empty suit
2nd – like I say, great minds think alike – talk about manchurian candidate – this whole mess started 40 years ago with Bobby’s death & the 1968 dem mess – glad to see that other people have figured this out & how do we get it mainstreamed – I’m not a racist but I have NO black guilt & do not believe that electing this empty suit half black/half white male will assuage any guilt feelings and that is only my opinion which I am entitled to express……………………..
#212 becca4hillary – I can’t watch those videos – sorry – don’t want to see any woman being beaten – bad memories…………………………..
Hi all PUMA’s
Got Hillary email… “Unity”
Some of her words…. “I was proud to stand with him today, and I will do whatever I can to help his campaign between now and November” YUK!!!!
Proud to stand by him…what is she thinking?? Does she truly trust this man??? Please tell me she has something up her sleeve…..
Come on Hillary, snap out of it….
Here’s the link to Matt’s Today in History,
http://www.mattstodayinhistory.blogspot.com/2007/08/chicago-convention-august-26-1968.html
also do a search for conventions at,
HOW STUFF WORKS
http://people.howstuffworks.com/political-convention.htm
A great site for researching, primaries, superdelegates, etc
That unity farce in New Hampshire was a total sham. Not buying it!
I feel so bad for Hillary. We all know that she is being forced to do this by the DNC. I hope that Bill Clinton stays out of this for as long as possible but we all know that the DNC is also holding him at gunpoint, threatening the Clinton legacy and their political careers if they don’t get on the Unity Pony. It’s disgusting.
If anyone in NYC or the East Coast this fall wants to work on live events for PUMAs, let me know. I am 100% behind PUMA and will even help the McCain campaign if it means seeing Obama and the DNC fall on their faces in November.
#216 rip33: I responded to Hillary’s ‘Unity” email and told her I contributed to help her pay down her debt through PUMA and that my vote is going to McCain. Also told her that there’s a whole bunch of us still pulling for her.
For those folks considering writing in Hillary’s name, be sure to check with your state’s rules on write-in votes! Sometimes the write-in votes are just awarded to the winner if they don’t outnumber what the winner got. We wouldn’t want write-in votes for Hillary to end up being counted for Obama!
Ralph Nader is going to be a guest on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Sunday June 29, 2008. Nader’s in the news because he’s taking on Obama. Might be fun to watch!
#175 notfollowingthepiedpiper, you are correct. Doing nothing on election day is the same as showing up and voting for B.H.O.. Voting for McCain is a vote AGAINST the selected one.
Hell No! No B.H.O
Just a quick comment about the Nov. Election. If people stay home, its a vote for BO. In many states, a write in will also be a vote for BO. The only sure way of not voting for him is to vote for McCain.
With that said, its an easy vote for me. While I don’t agree with many of McCains policies, as a human being his integrity is far more similiar to Hillary’s than the empty suit.
#219 good advice. I don’t advise writing in Hillary’s name.
#217 cosmeta on 06.28.08 at 12:30 pm
I’ll be adding the How Stuff Works – Conventions link on the links page at the Action Center! Thanks!
Puma PAC Action Center:
http://pumpacusa.org
“200 Susie1945 on 06.28.08 at 12:13 pm #197 middle age female – that’s the video I saw on Uppity woman’s site – it is hysterical – I think we should send email to those guys – Hannity, Limbaugh, OReilly, Morning Joe with a link to the hireheels video – those women pumas rock……………………….”
I just sent it to Hannity, Morning Joe and O’Reilly with a link to hireheels. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xhJnXl4kIA
Divine intervention prevented me from watching the Unity dog and pony show yesterday during a powerful thunderstorm. I had made my iced coffee; turned on CSpan and tape; and warned my son not to say a word to me. Just a few minutes into the act, CRASH! And the lights went out. We went upstairs to check on our elderly landlady. The 3 of us ended up playing Scrabble; I read my book on Alexander Hamilton; and my son and I played Chinese Checkers. When the weather cleared, we went outside on a reconnaissance mission. A lightning bolt had split a huge tree, half of which landed across the street, taking down the electrical wires with it. We lost power for 7 hours. After an initial rise in blood pressure due to my inability to view the rally, I am sure it plummetted several points from lack of exposure to this campaign debacle. (Note to FLAgayguy4Hill: I hadn’t thought of this before, that to be consistent, the DNC should award caucus delegates to Hillary for all of the elderly, disabled, single parents, shift workers, and absentees who would have voted for her but couldn’t. Great idea.)
#212 Beca4Hillary, LOL
#219 RoseCityfriend..”We wouldn’t want write-in votes for Hillary to end up being counted for Obama!”
Like THAT could ever happen! Snark…remember Michegan
To all PUMA’s
Would it make since to vote for McCain if not ALL states support write in’s come November. I mean, if not ALL states accept write ins then Hillary has no chance of winning. We would need votes from ALL states.
I feel it is best to vote McCain, this way giving Obama less of chance of winning. Just my thoughts…..
I posted a comment on the View from Unity about Hillary’s request that we reconsider. I said:
I have reconsidered, at Hillary Clinton’s request.
No Deal.
#224 middle age female – lol – now I’ll have to watch fox & msnbc just to see if they chkd the link
We would have to very careful and very aggressive with a write-in. I know a number of Hillary supporters who are voting McCain because they dont want Bo. However, they same people are not interested in what PUMA’s are doing. They are just not politically active, I think many are like this. We would have to ensure that those people got the message. It would be risky.
I’m personally voting for McCain, I feel it’s the best way to go. But how amazing would it be if all 18 million people wrote in her name??? It’s not realistic and would never work, so voting for McCain is the only way to make sure that Obama doesn’t get the vote.
#210 cosmeta
I agree with you completely. This was planned way ahead of time.
Also, note that just before Edwards secumbed to the pressure, Elizabeth Edwards spoke briefly about the ‘atmosphere of this election was against John’ or something of the sort. Apparently John got out because he saw the ‘light’ early on and realized the choice had already been made.
Heneri
#208 Battle for the Hill on 06.28.08 at 12:18 pm
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Will not work. She has to apply for write-in candidate status in all the states before she can recieve write-in votes that will count. Otherwise, these write-ins will either not count or will count toward the Dem candidate on the ballot, for instance BO. Fellow Pumas, please go to your state’s voter registration/information website online and review your voting regulations for your particular state. Wasting your vote in any way come November is not what we want to accomplish here.
213 Headclunker on 06.28.08 at 12:27 pm. WROTE,
[[ Those rigs he pulled out at the unity deal are expensive. It seemed like he had them from the start and he was putting on alot of big parties for young voters. Food, drink, entertainment from dirty money ... ]]
I don’t know about the “dirty money” part of your post.. but I do believe doing big rallies with lots of young folk was just a clever way of getting a good photo-op.
In other words, he used people.
What he did was to tell them to use their cell phones, call up a friend and invite them to the rally. And while at those rallies, non of those kids were listening to him… Some were as young as 14 and 16 and cannot vote.
My point here is this,
Even though the media, especially CNN and those like Wolf Blitzer and Jack Cafferty made a big deal about how good he is at getting young involved… even though he has all those great photo-ops…
NOT ALL OF THEM VOTED FOR HIM.
As a proof, I ask you to consider this: If he was doing all that well, he should have slammed Hillary and did not because she ended up with the popular vote. IOW, she matched him by doing smaller town hall meetings. It also means the young do not come out to vote.
Now, come the fall, they will be busy with school… preparing for their finals, and once again, by way of tradition and history, they will *not* come out to vote.
Wake up people, it’s all spin.
BHO won big in all the republican RED STATES… states he cannot win in the fall, yet Hillary can because she won all the larger delegate rich Democratic states. She already had gotten the 308+ Electorial Map. And athough he has money to advertise he needs Hillary to campaign for him in the states she won.
What I am trying to say is, if you revisit the primary and caucus process BHO did very well because he got 90% of the black vote. And the black vote is the BASE of the democratic party.
But in a General Election it is reduced to only 12-16% of the population.
HE CANNOT WIN.
LisaNC I too dont agree with all of McCain’s policy.
However, I truly believe that McCain truly believes in America and what it stands for. McCain is a man who has and will give his life for America.
Obama’s agenda that I have seen is filled with sexist, racist, anti-Americaism, and most of all lots of money that seems to come and go to the pockets of those not truly interested in ALL the people of America.
Perhaps I should have said,
He cannot win, WITHOUT HILLARY’S SUPPORT.
When I think of Bo going to speak with Euro leaders next week, it makes me chuckle. Is he going to fist bump them when he gets there?! He is just not presidential materal.
That video is too funny! I just sent it to Alan Combs. He is a Hillary supporter but now supporting B.H.O.
Sorry for my spelling errors today……..I’m am finding I get less sleep with teenagers than toddlers.
#147 notfollowingthepiedpiper
I love the story of the Post Turtle!!
The last part of the story is soooooooooo true concerning Obama and how he got to where he is!!!
“You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he sure as heck doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there and you just wonder what kind of an idiot put him there in the first place.”
#215 Susie1945,
There is no beating, it is beating “by words”. Sometimes I have to go back and see those videos to remind myself how unjust the media, Obambi supporters, Michelle Obambi, Obambi, DNC, Pelosi, and whomever I forgot, insulted Senator Clinton. They think it is that easy to forget. Come to November, we will do what is right! Rock your vote for McCain!
This song works for me. I’m mad at hell too and I’m not ready to forgive or forget and time won’t heal this. I will not just “get over it”. This means too much to my country. I won’t go along with the agenda of the “DNC mob bosses” who have railroaded this election into a SELECTED nominee.
“Forgive, sounds good
Forget, I’m not sure I could
They say time heals everything
But I’m still waiting
I’m through with doubt
There’s nothing left for me to figure out
I’ve paid a price
And I’ll keep paying
I’m not ready to make nice
I’m not ready to back down
I’m still mad as hell and
I don’t have time to go round and round and round
It’s too late to make it right
I probably wouldn’t if I could
‘Cause I’m mad as hell
Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should
I know you said
Can’t you just get over it
It turned my whole world around
And I kind of like it
I made my bed and I sleep like a baby
With no regrets and I don’t mind sayin’
It’s a sad sad story when a mother will teach her
Daughter that she ought to hate a perfect stranger
And how in the world can the words that I said
Send somebody so over the edge
That they’d write me a letter
Sayin’ that I better shut up and sing
Or my life will be over
I’m not ready to make nice
I’m not ready to back down
I’m still mad as hell and
I don’t have time to go round and round and round
It’s too late to make it right
I probably wouldn’t if I could
‘Cause I’m mad as hell
Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should”
“NOT READY TO MAKE NICE”
by the Dixie Chicks.
I’m not ready to make nice
I’m not ready to back down
I’m still mad as hell and
I don’t have time to go round and round and round
It’s too late to make it right
I probably wouldn’t if I could
‘Cause I’m mad as hell
Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should
Forgive, sounds good
Forget, I’m not sure I could
They say time heals everything
But I’m still waiting
Article found at this link -Oooh boy
http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/search/label/RezkoWatch%20HotList
First it was convicted political fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko; then it was Nadhmi Auchi; then it was William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn; then it was Rashid Khalidi; then it was Rev. Wright, Rev. Meeks, Rev. Otis, Father Pfleger and the TUCC; then it was Louis Farrakhan; then it was the New Black Panthers; then it was Aiham Alsammarae; then it was Jodie Evans; then it was Hamas; then it was Hugo Chavez; then it was Fidel Castro; then it was Muammar al-Gaddafi; then it was North Korea’s Kim Jong-Il; then it was the Communist Party USA; then it was ___; and then it was ___.
Just say NO Obama … EVER.
At least McCain is proud of his country, I dont feel that from Bo or Mo.
Hillary, BHO, McCain… What does it matter? The President is only 1/3 of our government.
It’s the Congress that makes law. The judiciary is suppose to uphold them via the Constitution, but all the President does is to have a platform on which to stump and he can vote them into law as well as having a veto pen. But it is House Members and Senators that determine our laws.
So the way I see it, if McCain gets in, and if the Democrates gain a larger majority, McCain will walk in as a LAME DUCK president.
That will position Hillary in 2012.
#235 cosmeta
Good analysis. Very clear headed. Sometimes we have to back up and look with a clear eye at what is behind the whoopla.
Good Morning from Kentucky
I read all the posts every day but do not comment.
I was an Independent and registerd Dem to vote for Hillary.
Whenever I receive Email from DNC for money I send back with my comments that Obam is not qualified to be POTUS. It gives me great satisfaction to voice my opinion to the DNC this way.
Am voting for McCain this fall aand not Obama.
Love watching all the interviews on MSM from members opposing Obama.
Keep it up.
#246 cosmeta
Agreed! Think I have said that a few times myself
“Lame Duck” President. He is not going to get far with this congress. However, God knows where Bo/Pelosi and company will take us!
I saw one of you on GMA this morning. Thank GOODNESS I am not alone in my feelings of anger. During this primary process I wrote (emailed) CNN once, Wolf Blitzer once, and Lou Dobbs twice. The skewed ‘reporting’ that I felt I witnessed pissed the crap out of me and I told them so. I felt like I was alone, though. So glad to know that I was not, indeed, “imagining it”.
I live in NH (and am a NH Independent) so we had first stabs at this thing. I used to like Obama, but the moment he snidely said “You’re alright – enough.” to Hillary with a snarky look I thought “You sir, are no gentleman” — and I still feel that way.
Though WILD HORSES could NEVER get me to vote for another Republican after these last 8 years (unless I want to see my nation sink lower in stature than I have already witnessed) — and IF I decide to vote this time, and I’m not sure I will it will be because of ONE of these two reasons:
1. Obama has the intelligence, class and balls to pick Hillary as running mate; or
2. It looks like McCain might win. Because that cannot happen. Other than that — I plan to at this time – protest.
Now. Who wants to grill me about being a racist?? Because that’s what I expect to hear from the media. Because that’s the ‘easy route’, right? Well, here’s a question for YOU, ‘media’:
Are you mysoginists? Do you STILL have a problem with women having power? This country is SCREWED UP.
Anyway, thank you for being here and validating my feelings about this election.
#224 Middle age female on 06.28.08 at 12:35 pm
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Fantastic! LOL! It’s going up in our Puma’s favorite Youtube links on the Action Center!! Give it some love Pumas! Send it off to your favorite ‘bedfellas’.
Puma PAC Action Center
http://pumapacusa.org
#248 sweetpea on 06.28.08 at 12:55 pm
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Welcome aboard Sweetpea! Feel free to chime in any time!
I never thought there would be a day that I would actually vote for a Republican but here we are!
I urge every PUMA in a swing state to vote for McCain. If you are in an already red state like Texas, I guess you can afford to write-in Hillary. But it is true that this movement is about more than just Hillary. We need to do whatever we can to purge the Democratic Party of these frauds and liars. If that means voting for McCain, then so be it.
I just joined Citizens for McCain for those Democrats fed up with the sexism and elitism of the “New” Democratic coalition: http://www.johnmccain.com/citizens/
CAMPAIGN STRATEGY
I believe that the GOP is intentionally choosing John McCain as an older candidate because, if they do win, they need someone to fall on his sword for all the mess they got us in. So, if they do win, we know how they do it. With dirt.
And we know they are waiting – because Hillary Clinton can still step in. It is very wise of her to hold her delegates. She is actually protecting BO. I do not believe the DNC is clever enough to have planned it. Maybe God just loves America. Having 2 candidates is advantageous.
We all know that there is enough dirt for the GOP MSM machines to deluge BO with. But is there more? Campaign money laundering? Vote fraud? How about 10 or 12 more people showing up with stories like Larry Sinclair? You know, if his story is true, that there are more and that they have been sold to the highest bidder.
We have already upset the GOP timetable, keeping Clinton a viable candidate. We must stay vigilant and make our presence known. If she is not voted in place at the DNC Convention or she releases her delegates, we must be organized to move forward with the write in vote, even for states that require the candidate to register.
Do not underestimate the importance of what we do. There are all kinds of ways a person can fight for their counrty. Never give up.
Thanks for the input on write-in etc. I think unless BO implodes before Nov. (still highly possible) we should all help each other climb out from under the Obamabus and jump on the McCain Train for the sake of our country.
#253 I agree.
#253 –
Keep as many options open as possible.
Jesus — if you all are going for McCain –?? Then this isn’t the place for me after all. Kinda bummed that you would actually consider voting for another republican after all this… and makes me wonder if this place is legit and not a right wing shill. Seriously.
Hi every one , I live in a lake community and we have several bath houses for our guests. I copied the fliers and i’m putting 1 in all 10 bath houses. With the 4th coming up we get visitors from all over the state.We are all so going to wall-mart here shortly. Does any one know if its against the law to put them on car windshields? Don’t want to do any thing illeagle. Its so good to be helping to stop Obama.My whole family is involved.
Murphy
If you’re watchin’ the Growl is in your inbox for approval.
MDPUMA
I agree with all of you who believe that the surest way not to waste our vote is to vote for McCain.
When I start to feel down, I remember that the most precious thing I have, what they can’t buy from me, wrestle away from me, or insult from me, is my vote. A friend of mine, who realizes after his latest actions that Sir Barack is not the shining knight in armor carrying the banners of “hope” and “change” that he has pretended to be, thinks I have become “cynical” to not just vote Democrat anyway. She’s worried about the Supreme Court, yada yada. I realize that it is those who tell us to “vote Democrat anyway” who are the cynical ones, who have given up on expecting much from our political system. They still think this is just disappointment over Hillary losing, and forget that it’s because she “lost” in the context of an unfair and corrupt system. Well, our votes are still obviously worth something or there’d be no pressure for “unity”. I’m going to treat my vote like the precious commodity it is and vote for McCain, thereby forcing BO to earn two for the loss of mine. I told my friend I’m willing to lose the battle (Democrats stuck with a Republican Pres.) than give up on the war, i.e. reforming the Democratic party.
Check out Ed Rendell’s response to PUMA – we are being heard!
He ain’t nuthin but a HOUND DOG:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/saturday-ed-youre-making-this-too-easy/
** FROM WILL BOWER @ JSND ***
On this, the Day after… (p) Unity (m)(a), New Hampshire
Yesterday, they told us “Unity, New Hampshire”.
Today, we tell them “Unity, New Hampshire, My Ass”.
My fellow PUMAs.
On this, the day after “Unity, New Hampshire”, I feel that it is important that we — as PUMAs — remember who we are… and what we are creating.
We were forged by the anti-democratic primary season of 2008 and have come forth to reject the DNC’s and Barack Obama’s call for us to fall in line.
*We* are the voice of the *true* Democratic Party — the voice that has been usurped by an internal coup not unlike the one we all suffered at the hands of the Supreme Court in 2000.
We are fighting for Democracy itself.
I am asking that each of you does *something* to bring forth your own fighting spirit as a PUMA.
We are varied in our philosophies and our strategies, so I won’t attempt to direct you all towards a singular course of action. All I ask is that you turn to your *own* PUMA self and decide what you can do during this critical time to make a difference.
Thank you, fellow PUMAs. I look forward to crossing this bridge with you… as we move towards bigger and better things!
And, as always…
Party Unity My Ass !!
Will
Good Afternoon PUMAS,
I wish I was better today but, it is far from well for me. My sister’s best friend has been fighting cancer for several years now(she was diagnosed at 27 and is now 35). She has had some close calls but, miracles have always come to her to help her through. She had one of her scans three weeks ago, after another scare, and was told that the spots had disappeared. Last weekend, she became unresponsive and had to be rushed to the hospital. Further testing showed that the cancer was indeed there and has since spread to her brain. All of her family and friends are devastated. In a matter of 72 hours, we were told that she has months, then weeks, then days, and now, hours. We are having a tough time dealing with this. Christina’s husband, Chris, is also a long-time friend of the family and has been calling us. He is absolutely heartbroken. We wanted to go to visit Christina today but, we feel that it will be taking time away from her family, so we are waiting to listen when he wants to vent. As of 11pm last night, her breathing was being affected by the cancer. We are basically waiting, by the phone, for “the call”. Please everyone, keep Christina & Chris in your thoughts and prayers, as they need as much as they can get! I’ll try to check in but, this doesn’t feel like the time to be working on this today.
Melissa
WV PUMA Democrat
#246 cosmeta on 06.28.08 at 12:52 pm
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That is my analysis as well. I’m certainly not too keen on having a far, far-left BO as POTUS with a healthy dose of far-left leaning Dems in control of Congress. Where’s the balance? They could do a lot of damage over four years, as much or even more than we had with a Repub controlled Congress and a Repub president for a good part of this past 7 1/2 years. Talk about a wiiiiide swing! Remember, it was only in 2006 that the control of Congress switched and we started to have more balance in Government (the GWB admin was not nearly so inclined to just run amuck). Of course we also have people like ‘follow Nancy’ Reid and Cruella Pelosi in charge, so they cannot get any meaningful legislation passed but hey, we have had balance to our governmental branches. That is not always a bad thing! Hence, being a moderate Dem I am not that uncomfortable voting McCain in and waiting til 2012 to have our true President elected! Then we can get some stuff done, in moderation of course!
#261 MissyD77 on 06.28.08 at 1:15 pm
God bless. Prayers sent.
#258 RoseCityfriend on 06.28.08 at 1:11 pm
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Absolutely!
I was feeling down after watching yesterday’s circus but after reading #261 it could be a lot worse.
#256 tillerylakelady on 06.28.08 at 1:09 pm
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I would inquire with the store management first, just to be sure.
Murphy
Would you consider contacting Amy Goodman at
http://www.democracynow.org
She has a national audience and might be willing to do a piece about PUMA PAC. The corporate media is not doing justice to our message and all the mainstream media follow her show although they would be the last to admit it.
I just sent it to Hannity, Morning Joe and O’Reilly with a link to hireheels. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xhJnXl4kIA Also just sent it to Rush and Pat. I hope they watch it. Maybe if several of us send it, they will.
The best thing that happened yesterday was Hillary did not release her delegates, I was fearfull she was. Also Bill was not there too. Isn’t it interesting that it was suppose to be a big day for Obama and the Dems and the media spent a lot of air time bashing Bill.
#261 MissyD77
You have my thoughts and prayers for Christina & Chris, their family and friends.
I am still very upset that CNN’s Anderson Cooper on 360 never discussed the 25% Hillary supporters not backing Obama instead spent that time discussing Bill. Also not posting our posts on his blog during the show. I suggest that we overload his blog on Monday and all week to show him we will not put up with that.
Pumas
The “info cards” on the websites are business cards.
Maryland PUMA
Perhaps I should relabel them. They are great to leave with tips and to carry with you.
Can’t get the word out if they act that way.
For years I was fighting with my Rightie friends that the media is not that bias except for FOX News. Well I just learned the hard way and they are right on. It just makes me sick.
Anyone see this comment at Noquarter……Read the article.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/28/the-ever-malleable-mr-obama/#comments
Comment by Dakinikat | 2008-06-28 11:57:19
JUST IN FROM THE UK PRESS:
BILL CLINTON IS A PUMA!!!!!
Bill Clinton says Barack Obama must
‘kiss my ass’ for his support
http://dakiniland.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/bill-clinton-is-a-puma/
Murphy, please check your email.
Ughhhhh
Would BO kiss a male candidate?
I would love to hear that phone call.
I’m working on the bracelets.
They will be NUMBERED… 1 of 18 Million, 2 of 18 Million…etc etc.
Researching color symbolism and psychology to determine color(s).
Will order within a few days and will be ready by next weekend. Not sure of price yet.
MarylandPUMA
261 MissyD77
Adding our prayers and lighting a candle for your friends.
I wonder if Hillary said on that plane ride to NH, if you screw up before August I am going to be the nominee so watch your back, I play nice now but you better be careful.
I have followed all the blogs for weeks and have very much admired all that PUMA has been doing. Good work.
The DNC has stolen what was Hillary’s nomination to annoint Nobama.
I cannot stand Nobama and he should not be elected for following reasons:
1. He was selected and not elected. Hillary won more votes than Nobama.
2. His dubious associations with Rezco, Wright, etc etc.
3. The DNC and the media unfairly targeted Hillary and never vetted Nobama and portraited him as a messiah. Dangerous!!!!!!!!
4. Nobama is inexperienced and arrogant. I really felt very bad when I saw the humilation that poor Hillary was put thru on Friday. He has no class and he does not deserve this nomination. He would not be where he is without his corrupt connections from the Chicago mob.
5. He is an empty suit and scares me with his extreme connections with left leaning American hating friends like William Ayers and Farrakahn.
6. He is connected with the shady housing debacle as posted by Boston Globe. I do hope that somehow this would be exposed soon
7. He has dubious Birth Cerificate. Also, this should be exposed soon.
8. I just dont trust him and he goes around with a smug and fake smile and empty speeches and promises.
9. He throws and discards people when there are not needed by throwing them under the bus. Once he has no need for the Clintons in the future, see what will happen? They (DNC and the media) will once again demonise Hillary.
With all of the above, there is no doubt that Hillary is the one and only nominee that would have bought honor , leadership and integrity to the DNC. If she is not the nominee, the only way to ensure that nobama is not elected is to vote McCain and she will win in 2012!
At least McCain is patriot and truly loves America and puts America’s interest above Party.
Now BO is holding “faith forums” all around the country to court the religious voters. Gag me with a spoon.
You don’t have to be gay or lesbian to participate, you can be a friend of LGBTs to march or hand out flyers. There are LGBT flyers in the Action Center.
There are several Pride events this weekend that Obama supporters plan to march in or meet at. It would be good to see if we can find some PUMAs to participate too. The Chicago Pride in particular would be good. From what I hear, Obama will NOT be marching in the Chicago Pride parade. Hillary Clinton marches in Pride parades, even Republican Rudy Guliani marched in the NYC Pride Parade when he was mayor of NY. Maybe in Chicago, PUMAs can have signs saying “Where is Obama?”.
It’s obvious that they are targeting key states (MI, FL, PA, OH) so we need to have a presence there too.
Most of these parades have no fee to walk in the parades but require prior registration for participation. I see no reason why we can’t use the information on the Obama website to organize against them.
June 28 – Michigan Pride http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/prideevent/4gfs9
June 28 – Mid-Michigan Pride
June 28 – St. Pete Pride
June 28 – Columbus Pride
June 28 – Houston Pride
June 28 – Erie Pride Picnic (parade Sun)
June 28 – NY Dyke March
June 29 – SF Pride
June 29 – Seattle Pride
June 29 – St. Louis
June 29 – Minneapolis
June 29 – Chicago
June 29 – Erie, PA Pride March
June 29 – NYC Pride
July 4,5,6 – Atlanta Pride (parade on 6th)
This is a great opportunity for visibility.
MissyD77:
My husband is fighting cancer now also. Never really understood how hard it could be . Certainly praying for you and the family.
#261 My thoughts and prayers are with Christina and Chris. She is my daughters age, who has been fighting uterine cancer for 4 years. I will say a very special prayer for them.
Hello fellow pumas on the prowl! I am proud to be a PUMA ( have been in the wings, since the start), just donated, and posted the link on a myspace bulletin to not just 5 friends but to 54 lol ooh ahhh– as well as doing some of the daily emailing exercises:)
As a KY native, I was personally disgusted about how my home state was portrayed in the MSM as well as by the BO camp during the primary season. I really cried:(-I think many people don’t realize recession ( or close to one as they tell us ha ha) hit that area hard… People vote w/ their pocketbook and remember the 90′s were boom times. To suggest there was another reason ( ie racist , uneducated etc) was arrogant on the part of the msm , the bo camp, and frankly also ignorant/insulting to say the least. grrrrrr .
as far as reaching SNL that was discussed in another thread/post ( forgive me for post swapping)- I tried to a month or so ago – I thought it would be great if Bill and Hillary could have reenacted the scene in “Dirty Dancing” and said that “no one puts Hillary in a corner” lol–I guess it’s a little late now ( prob a little awkward w/ patrick swayze’s condition now too
).
I am glad to see the press PUMA is getting and hope for much more– I just feel so unsettled during this election – fear, anger, and resentment etc– I am glad that I can turn that energy into something positive.
Oh, I just read the story about Bill Clinton. Whoopee! It quotes his “friends” as being “shocked” that he’d “still” be bitter toward Obama. Gee, I guess he should just realize that being accused of being a racist is just part of the political game, and he should kiss and make-up? NOT!
Let’s send lots of emails and cards of support to Bill and let him know we Pumas are friends who understand EXACTLY how he feels. GO BILL!
http://www.edoreilly.com/
Check this guy out and if you like what you see, give him a hand. Donate or volunteer. He could and should replace Sen Kerry!
Happy Saturday PUMAS;
thanks to all who went to Unity yesterday, I read a post where someons said theyw anted to go up and grab Hillary off of the stage, that placed a smile on my face. Hillary probabbly wants to be rescued.
# 12 Henrietta; I agree with you, I realized a while back that this primary election had been calculated from the onset by 61 to win. They knew he was going up against a powerhouse, Hillary, and they started the plan to bring her down long before the primary. They used people from Bill’s cabinet to do this because they are aware of how the Clinton’s handle politics. Hillary did marvelous considering the odds against her with the kind of thief that they planned to rob her of the election.
Doria:
People who really believe that 61 will bring this nation back on it’s feet will be very disappointed. Presidents in my opinion should work for the people and Bill Clinton did this, 61 is not Bill Clinton and he works for 61 and winning is all he cares about. Have them give us a president that cares about us and our nation and by golly I will change back from INDE and work my heart out like I did for Hillary to get them elected. Give me Hillary or give me no one on the DEM side.
#290 PA4HILL08
Yes, O’Reilly is challenging Kerry in MA. I’ll vote for him just because I’m fed up with Kerry; I seriouly doubt that he would be much of an improvement but it is time for a change. We need term limits for ALL elected officials.
#264 – Prayers are with you and with Chris and Christina. You’re right, today is not the day for you to be working on this. It certainly puts things in perspective and makes you realize just how small this stuff really is. I pray that Chris will have the strength and courage to get through this and that Christina will have a peaceful and painless end. {{{{hugs}}}}}
We also need another political party. Wouldn’t it be something if this movement ended up creating one.
#275 How about Purple?
In human color psychology, purple is associated with royalty, regality, and nobility
As I think more about it; all New Deal policies were originally proposed by a 3rd party. If another party were formed, and we adopted a liberal agenda, we might be able to attract the 18 million who voted for Hillary plus some independents. That would make the Republicrats wake up and take notice. Just an idea . . . but
Re #290 — Heidi Li Feldman currently has a matching donation to Ed O’Reilly if you donate through her site to retire Hillary’s debt. Those of you thinking of donating to him could get a “free” donation to him for donating to Hillary at Heidi’s site.
heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com
RoseCity do you know where we can mail Bill or email him.
I truly hope it is true that Bill told his friends that Obama could “Kiss hiss a**”
http://dakiniland.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/bill-clinton-is-a-puma/
#246 #265 Well said. McCain is not going to run or be able to run in 2012. There will be a real election then. This is a 4-year decision, not the start of a legacy.
#299 Why won’t he be able to run in 2012? Because of his age?
if MCCAINS RUNS @ COLLIN POWELL AS VP
HUSSEIN COULD GO HOME RIGHT THERE
#300 headoverhills 4 Reasons. 1 because of his age, 2 he won’t be a dynamic president, 3 demographics are moving away from him, 4 he will struggle with other factions in his own party (which will make him a better president for the 4 years in office). Suspect we will get a few reasonable programs passed and then on to 2012
#301 storytellers: “if MCCAINS RUNS @ COLLIN POWELL AS VP HUSSEIN COULD GO HOME RIGHT THERE”
Is using Obama’s middle name supposed to be code for something?
K in NW #300, I’m going to send an email note and snailmail card through the William J. Clinton Foundation, unless someone has a better idea. I went back and looked at Puma’s Father’s Day blog and it looked like things were sent through Hillary’s campaign. I don’t trust that anymore because of the “unity” pressure, so I’m going to go as direct to Bill as possible.
http://www.clintonfoundation.org
Thanks Dances #305.
Barack Obama’s name is Barack Obama. He doesn’t use his middle name for obvious (if unfortunate) reasons. Let’s not make it easy for our opponents to dismiss or discredit us.
I woke up at 7 this morning to a Baltimore talk show with a lot of people commenting on how sad yesterdays performance in Unity was. I love the comment that one said. “Obama and Hillary are coming together and learning to love each other. NOT!” Everyone sees it for what it was—-a sham.
#303 Storytellers: Except that Colin Powell has revealed that he has been advising BO on foreign policy — and hasn’t ruled out supporting him for President. Plus, I’m guessing, with McCain’s strong military credentials, he won’t need to select another military man to share the ticket.
#307 Murphy – whoooosh! I love it when you step in like that. Makes me proud to be a PUMA.
I was under the impression that Powell WILL NOT run for VP due to his wife’s illness and wanting to stay out of the limelight and the personal life intrusions that a VP run will bring, as well as the work load.
I keep saying if he picks Condi, BO is done.
Governor Rendell forms new unity group – HOUND
http://www.padems.com/node/1368
HOUND = (Hillary-Obama-United-Not-Divided) in response to the creation of PUMA
to leave a comment
http://www.padems.com/media/blog
I personally like this one:
To tune of “You ain’t nothin’ but a HOUND dog”
You ain’t nothin’ but a HOUND dog
Cryin’ poor mouth all the time
You ain’t nothin’ but a HOUND dog
Tellin us to “get in line”
Well, HOUNDS are weaker than a PUMA
And we ain’t towing any god damn line
Well they said BHO was high-classed
Well, that was just a lie
Yeah they said the DNC was high-classed
Well, that was just a lie
So, now it’s a HOUND vs PUMA fight
And you ain’t no friend of mine
SusyT and I are meeting here at 845. Anyone wishing to join us feel free. We are going to send a cone of energy and love to Hillary at 9 p.m. The more the merrier. So go outside and raise your hands up to the sky and visualize energy and love coming out of you and seeking out Hillary. Picture her at the convention accepting the nomination and/or being sworn in at the Capitol. Together we can work miracles. Only positive energy no ill thoughts of Obama.
#298 k in the northwest on 06.28.08 at 2:10 pm
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I luv Big Dawg! And agree with the idea that it’s BO, DNC, and the crooked ‘gang’ who really need to step up and apologize to the man (Bill Clinton) for trying to destroy his legacy, not that in my opinion an apology should even matter at this point – I don’t think either he or Senator Clinton should be forced to back this empty suit, period. I’m so tired of constant calls for the Clinton’s to bail ‘no name’ out; no if he (BO) is such a darned great candidate and a true leader deserving of our votes, he should be able to win his own votes for crying out loud!
Condi would be a great pick. She is much tougher than Barack.
#44 Lorey
Not only did I notice the nail watching… but I resented Obama’s speech in which he interjected more sexism on a subtle level by making note that Hillary accomplished all that she did in heels. Then he made an effort at a compliment of her brushing off all the problems she faced — and then used his infamous shoulder brushing gesture. To me he was reminding her of his disrespect even though he used it in the context of a “compliment.”
I also noticed the chair was too high for Clinton. When it came time for Obama to speak… Hillary walked over to the chair and when she realized she couldn’t gracefully climb up on it… she just opted to stand and lean near it. That had to be uncomfortable to be standing there in the heat through his entire speech.
Good Morning Pumas,
I apologize I haven’t read too many posts today. Got to take the boys to get their hair cuts but as I was just folding some laundry and decided to turn the tv on, what do I see? A PUMA!!!! (Big smile) on FOX (America’s Election HQ) and he was talking about us and about how Ed Rendell has a group out to counter act us because the DNC is concerned about us! OH YES BABY!!!!! Does anybody know the name of this group? You know they are AFRAID and I can SMELL their FEAR from here!!!!! LOL HA HA HA HA HA HA
Hi, all! I just posted this on my blog at http://womenstate.blogspot.com/. Let me know what you think about it!
“Let’s take back our words!”
As I see it, there are two very important words in our english language, one is “Hope” and the other is “Change”.
Hope: the feeling that what is wanted can be had or that events will turn out for the best. To look forward to with desire and reasonable confidence.
Change: to make the form, nature, content, future course, etc., of (something) different from what it is or from what it would be if left alone: to change one’s name; to change one’s opinion; to change the course of history.
Now that we are clear on their meanings, let’s use them to our advantage and not give in to the claim of entitlement of these words by the democratic nominee and his camp.
Example: I “Hope” delegates and superdelegates at the Democratic Convention in August “Change” their minds and elect the real candidate: Hillary Clinton. I “Hope” they realize that “Change” can only be obtained through the election of Hillary Clinton who was cheated out of the race by the party and the caucuses. I “Hope” the american people understand that we can only obtain a real and honest “Change” of policies by electing the most qualified candidate: Hillary Clinton.
The more us PUMAS use these two words, the more we will contribute to a real “Change” in politics.
#279 dcinvegas on 06.28.08 at 1:36 pm
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Dc! Welcome back!!
Happy to see you DCinvegas!
#316 Read this:
#23 prplvette85 on 06.28.08 at 9:06 am
Rendell drank the kool aid check out this link over at confluence:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
As for Bill Clinton standing up against BHO:
All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men (and women) to do nothing.
You go, Bill!!
75 ABinNY on 06.28.08 at 10:48 am, WROTE,
[[ LOL, when I saw him touching Hillary yesterday I shouted at my tv…
“get your %$$%ing hands off of her!”
Am I a little obsessed? Should I worry?]]
Yes. You should.
Solution: Don’t drink the kool-aid!
Seriously, I yelled at my tv yesterday also, and frieghtened our dogs by waking them out of a deep sleep.
I got mad when BHO said that he need and wanted Bill Clinton and Senator Hillary to be part of his campaign, I screamed… And yeah—where were you a few months ago when you equated the Bush administration to all the past 20 years of status quo. He made Hillary sound like she was responsible for Bush’s errors and that Bill’s administration was worthless. But NOW all of a sudden you *need* him. HA! I yelled. Where were you when your buddies like Clydburn played the race card on him in South Carolina. Why didn’t you at least stick up for your buddy Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton?, I said. Because Bill was right! They played the race card on him. He also has the right to still be angry… especially after the last few weeks when media has been saying that BHO won’t choose Hillary as his VP because Bill can’t be vetted. I laughed at that too, because the only one who has never been vetted properly is BHO.
But touching… nope, didn’t bother me… to me it was just another stunt… a photo op. He’s becoming aware of the cameras and he needs Hillary now… he needs us.
Time to wake up, Mr O.
It ain’t about to happen!
There were Raegan Democrates and now there are Hillary Republicans.
The ironic part of all of this… at least for me is, media kept on saying he is starting a movement… he did… and it is called,
THE HILLARY MIDDLE CLASS MOVEMENT!
Anyone thought of getting any radio coverage for the JustSayNoDeal family?
#206 Hill4me
I’m in Oregon as well. Would like to connect with you. My email is alohapuma@gmail.com
The hireheels video is hysterical. Good to put a little humor in this!!
There are a couple of people talking about visualizing Hillary taking the oath of office. I remember someone was going to create of photo of this. I know visualizing works. Even though its not everyone’s cup of tea, please post a link when you’ve finished the photo.
Mornin’ PUMAS
Hey Murphy and all… I just did a cut/copy paste of this log and then put it into Word Perfect… At post 322 it is 70 pages long and counting.
I don’t think any of us can be expected to keep up with the volume, let alone Murphy.
aloha puma
I though you were in Hawaii
Murphy read your email
#291,TATEPUMA
from the very begining, they sort of wanted “to steal HILLARY´S soul”. Is very insulting the shameless way that they got almost everyone that worked for the CLINTON´s elections
1rst: it looks like a conspiration against the CLINTONS
2nd: it looks like a social protest movement against
the american type of goverment, americam dream, & the american way of life
3rd is very scary the complacency with the interference of anti-America ideologies
I think what hussein and his clan pretend is even more dangerous than what we might think, I hope I am wrong
YOU CAN THANK ME LATER, I THINK I JUST FOUND “ANOTHER” OCTOBER SURPRISE
You need FORUM software Murphy so you can put ideas into category groups.
Also, with Forum Software we would be able to contact one another through email and what’s called PRIVATE MESSAGES.
So if not here… maybe consider getting another directory page and call it, http://www.pumapac/forum.org — in other words it can be installed on this site and you could still keep this blog open as a gateway.
imo, the Republicans wanted Obama as the candidate. I always felt that they think they can discredit him more easily than Hillary (uh… let’s just start w/ the wacko preachers at his church, holy cow!). I always felt that Hillary was the stronger candidate by far, and that they thought so too.
I know many of you are angry by the primary process – I am too. But I would urge you to not abandon the principles of what Hillary and Bill Clinton stand for, and vote for McCain! I can’t believe anyone would even consider such a thing! McCain USED to be objective, and independent. We always said that he was probably the one republican that we could possibly vote for — not anymore!!! Not since he aligned himself with the BUSHIES — not since he gave in to political expediency and realized it was his one shot to the throne, so he GAVE IN TO HIS PARTY AND PUT ASIDE WHAT HE STOOD FOR. I have no respect for him for that.
Back to my point about the republican party wanted Obama as the dem candidate…. this blog will inevitably be infiltrated with people who say they supported Hillary but now support McCain. People who no doubt supported the republican ballot all along.
I cannot, under any circumstances see why any person who says they believe or believed in Hillary’s candidacy, can vote for John McCain. Sorry.
#328 zombiefortruth
I prefer to THANK YOU NOW!
GO PUMAs
“328 zombiefortruth on 06.28.08 at 3:01 pm YOU CAN THANK ME LATER, I THINK I JUST FOUND “ANOTHER” OCTOBER SURPRISE”
Is it a bombshell? Thank you now also?
#206 – HillforMe — that’s fantastic to hear that the Oregon newspaper has some guts to post pro-PUMA facts. Go, Oregon!
By the time I have read the posts and get to where I can comment, it might be irrelevant what I want to say–or seriously outdated, BUT
WELCOME all you NEW PUMAS. You’ll love the company.
I’m seeing so many new names in just the last couple of days.
Also–saw Will Bower on Fox a little while ago, and he mentioned that there are now over 200 groups in the JustSayNoDeal coalition, and he referenced Rendell’s efforts to develop a HOUNDS organization–saying what we have said earlier here–they RECOGNIZE us as a threat and have come up with a counter manuever.
This is great news for all of us.
So, who let those dogs out? Who? Who?
Think you’re any match for a PUMA cat? Watch your back, HOUNDS.
And, it is unfortunate–if true–that Powell is advising BO, because he would be an extraordinary VP for McCain and would certainly knock a little wind out of those who are voting based only on race.
McCain is going to get my vote, because I do believe that if I write in Hillary, or don’t vote at all, that it will go to BO, and that will be defeat for our cause of curing the ills of the Democratic Party. The Dems need to be taught a hard, hard lesson for 4 years.
Let’s not forget we also have Bush technically in charge for almost 7 months. Who’s running the house? The gas prices are high NOW. The food prices are growing higher NOW. We can’t wait 7 months for somebody to get in their riding on promises and then have to wait for the legislative hoedown they will go through to solve the problems.
We have many things to accomplish together–NOW!
#261MissyD77, My prayers are with you and your friends.
What is the Oct surprise?? PUMA minds want to know.
Trishfromcanada
I just sent you an email!
I am no using hussein for code purposes, it just that is his name too and it says a lot who he is, something that I think he likes to hide
I did not know that Powell was an advisor for hussein¡¡¡¡,, MY GOD¡¡¡¡
“their” should be “there” sorry
mamapuma,
I spend time in both places. I’ve posted that a number of times in the past. If you have any concerns please email me.
cosmeta – excellent post regarding the ‘conspiracy’
Aug 26, 1968 – 40 years
Interesting
I am reminded of something else pretty darned coincidental and absolutely hilarious (pun intended). I think the conspirators in their infinite arrogance didn’t bother doing their research.
Aug 26, 1920 – 88 years
This is the date that women got the vote!
I think 08/26/1920 trumps 08/26/1968
What do you think?
Hey PUMAs – this was a hysterical posting on CNN’s political ticker…funny but so in line with what we’ve come to expect of BO. My response to the ticker is at the bottom. ENJOY!
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Obama forced to show ID
(CNN) — He may be running for the most powerful job in the world, but Sen. Barack Obama still has to flash his gym ID like the rest of us.
Wanting to get a quick treadmill session in before his first public event with Sen. Hillary Clinton Friday morning, the Illinois senator headed to the newly-opened Washing Sports Club in the Columbia Heights neighborhood.
But the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee did not get far when he and his entourage of Secret Service agents tried to walk past the front desk without stopping, according to the gym’s general manager, Gonzalo Perez-Tamayo.
Perez-Tamayo told CNN the club trains its employees to adopt a strict policy of asking every member for his or her gym ID upon entry, even if they happen to be seeking the Oval Office.
The employee manning the front desk at the time, Takehia Wheeler, immediately stopped Obama as he was breezing past.
“It’s always a rush in the morning, everyone’s trying to come in quickly,” Perez-Tamayo said. “She asked him for his last name and he said ‘Obama,’ then she asked him for his first name.”
“It was very funny, she then realized who he was and said, ‘Oh I am so sorry!” Perez-Tamayo added.
For the record, Obama is a member at the Washington Sports Club gym network.
The Illinois senator did not appear frustrated by the inconvenience, Perez-Tamayo also said, but he probably realized he needs to get a gym card if he wants to avoid the mix up in the future.
“If he doesn’t want to get stopped he needs a card,” Perez-Tamayo said. “It’s the same for everybody.”
MY RESPONSE
Chris in FL – I’m sure that Dean and Pelosi will have words with the gym owner to ensure he’s never asked for proper credentials in the future…
I second Cosmeta #329 – forum software would really help keep track of all these posts.
Thanks for all you’re doing, Murphy!
#340 why should he need proper credentials now? teehee
#342 Battle for the Hill
Exactly!!! LOL
I understand that Murphy and other pumas consider that is not wise, or right to use his second name for correctness purposes???
if that is the case, I WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING THAT COULD TARNISH PUMAS
OH YEAH!!! I am no longer considered much to be HOT, but I wanna join HIREHEELS!!! Bravo Ladies, Absolutely BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xhJnXl4kIA
#340 FLgayGuy4Hill
[I’m sure that Dean and Pelosi will have words with the gym owner to ensure he’s never asked for proper credentials in the future…]
We all know how “the rules” are rewritten for Obama.
#324 Alohapuma –diva here. I think that’s aboout 6 of us up here in the same area. Mayor and I are on the Washington side of the bridge and you, k in nw, hill4me and rosecityfriend, so far. This is exciting and hope we can all hook up soon. Mayor and I talked about after the 4th.
Everyone please writ President Clinton and even if the story isn’t true, give him support and let’s ask him if he will support us!!
#324 Alohapuma. I am trying to find a pic of her taking her oath for Senator of New York and use that or find one of President Clinton taking the oath and superimpose her face.
Also, please try to donate for the match to pay off Senator Clinton’s debt. I know I just saw the post but now I can’t find it. I think someone said they put it in the action page? I will look shortly.
diva2
I must confess, I’ll be able to spill my blood for this cause. If its necessary. I ain’t afraid of no boot on the neck. I am not going to bend on this principle. Who’da Thunk It? The Democratic Party…
I engaged my own attorney to let him know that Obama being fresh is not a good reason , and I even engaged my internet provider while we were troubleshooting my email problems… The fact is, we can gently broach politics with anyone, not just friends and family. I talked to my mail man when he came to the door. Anyone is fair game if you do it nicely…
Action, folks… not much time left… lets get serious about this.. We got knocked out in round one, there is only round two.
Hi PUMAs, I’m back again..was thinking…has anyone thought about
or talked about a PUMAPac Convention?
There is a DNC convention and a RNC convention, so what about a PUMAPac Convention, where we can get together in our great numbers and meet and discuss and plan and draw some real media attention. I’m talking about something planned well in the future, conveniently and centrally located so PUMAs from all over can attend. I know its a big project to plan but I thought I would just throw the idea out there. Thoughts?
It is way to “graphic” to post here and I do not want it associated with the “good name” of PUMA, but I will tell you that is shows some clear inconsistencies in BHO’s actions in regards to “Equality and Justice for All” stump!.
Chris Rock, has introduced BHO at one of his rally’s and has “stumped” for BHO on many occasions.
The video that I just worked on “ALL NIGHT” takes some VULGAR RACIST STATEMENTS that Chris Rock has made about how white people in 40 states “F” their sisters.
Not only that, it also counters that “Thaw mama under the bus” statements that BHO made in his “Race Speech”
It seems that is is OK for Chris Roc to FEAR “N*****’s” but if BHO’s grandmother does, she is divisive.
Remember, this was the whole argument that BHO made in his race speech to dismiss the Rev. Wright thing, yet his other “Black” supporter “Chris Rock feels the same way as his Grandmother does.
This is a “MUST SEE” and a, “MUST GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO THE MEDIA MOMENT”
At least in my opinion!
My YouTube account name is the same name I use here,
Look it up under my account when I post it, it will be called
Account Name:
zombiefortruth
Video Name:
MY OCTOBER SURPRISE FOR OBAMA!
#347 diva2 that is a great idea about writing to President Clinton about our cause. Let’s all of us state our case to him. Hillary cannot outwardly support us, for the sake of her Senate Career (and if NY does not like it, she is welcome to come to Massachusetts, we will gladly trade Kerry for her over here).
#345 PUMA and the FOX…it’s HOT in here! Nice video.
# 269 vadaryl, You are correct, I don’t think Hillary will be releasing her delegates, she knows full well that something is brewing with all her supporters.
She knows we will take it from here!
One Love
#336 storytellers
Along with President Clinton, lets us all state our cause to Colin Powell!!!
In reply to doria,
#15
From the age perspective, it’s more “sad” for Hillary or McCain to loose than for BO to loose. BO is the young one… he still has a lot of years in front of him to gain more experience and run again, even in the distant future, if he wants to (I’m not implying he’s president-material in any shape or form, at least now, and he certainly has a very troubling background, mixed-up belief-system and ‘Cultish’/Charlatan aspects!).
But if these young people you mention could see that he has a whole life in front of him (and so do they) and how bad we older ones feel that our dream of having the first woman president has been shattered…
And also, how “sad” that if BO wins and then gets re-elected in 4 years, then, in eight years, Hillary might feel that she is sort’a getting “too old” to put in all the intense energy required to run again for president. And, as for McCain… if Hillary is out of the picture for this election, I would feel “bad” if McCain didn’t win, being as old as he is. He has tried before and now this may be his last chance, given his age.
But, yes, I understand what you’re saying (about all the people that will be sad if BO looses)… but they’ll get over it… and they can hang on to the hope that he has many, many, many years left to run again. That’s not necessarily the case for HRC and even less for McCain!
P.S. I think the best ticket would be Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro!!!
#327 Storytellers,
*61 is a crook, no doubt. He just doesn’t know how to do anything with out being dishonest and THAT is one of my biggest issues with him. The BObots can’t understand why we won’t vote for their candidate when he is so close to Hillary on the issues. Well, it is very hard to look at the issues when their candidate’s HUGE character flaws stand in the way! And his company?! He doesn’t have a decent friend. Everything he does is shady. I really pitty the BObots, they just don’t have any discernment! *61 is as dirty as his Chicago politics!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epzja60c69E
#275 & prplvette85: I can’t find your original blog as to why the color thing came up, but here’s my input.
In the world of art & color, purple is also the mix of red and blue. How appropriate is that to where us Pumas stand (Dems/Repubs) !!
If your comment relates to Puma’s color choice for wrist bands, etc., go for the PumaPURPLE. (sounds good too)
Good Mourning PUMAS!
I read some comments on Fark.com from Obamatrons last night and they were just as sick as we are after seeing Hillary and Obama cozy up .
I know you need to mend fences after a primary but they called me an uneducated, bitter, bitch, racist!
I have ben involved in a little union politics myself and no one ever, EVER called me racist to my face!.
This may be just politics to the politicians but to us it is our life.
No one can call me racist and get away with it for any reason!
I am also turned off by the Pope of Hope because he came off like Jesus and now is changing his tune. Being a politician is one thing, pulling a fake savior act is right out! That is just evil!
Obama is a stranger even to his original supporters. As the cool aid high wares off they fined they have a hangover and no self respect in the mourning. For this I can forgive them but not Obama.
I am proud I did not drink that cool aid!
PUMAS ROCK!!
Does someone have any idea how to send mail/email/anything to Bill Clinton. We need to give him our support and tell him Bravo for holding out.
It is atrocious for anyone to expect him to just kiss and make up and throw is support to Barak Hussein Obama (is that his name or not. If it is, why is it damaging to call him by his name ??)
Every one has kissed Obama’s ass… now if he thinks Bill is so pivotal to his campaign maybe he should do some ass kissing of his own (does that mean Obama cannot win White votes himself ? Good !)
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MY OCTOBER SURPRISE FOR OBAMA!
Pass it on!
# 350 Fred said:
“I engaged my own attorney to let him know that Obama being fresh is not a good reason , and I even engaged my internet provider while we were troubleshooting my email problems… The fact is, we can gently broach politics with anyone, not just friends and family. I talked to my mail man when he came to the door. Anyone is fair game if you do it nicely…”
I agree! I struck up a conversation with a stranger sitting outside of the Cracker Barrel restaurant in the rocking chairs! Haha.
We was a Hilary supporter and was disappointed with what is going on. Unfortunately, she was an older lady who did not know how to use the internet, but I still told her about PUMA!
We should think of a way to reach these type of people (who are not computer/internet users). I will have to give it some thought.
#9 I think that is a great idea! a join letter to the Delegates! I am all for it!
Found a good video about Obama’s district in Chicago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqu3u9ISctA&eurl=http://www.liberalrapture.com/
Hi everyone,
While I cannot suport BHO, I feel uncomfortable with the over-emphasis on voting for McCain since I cannot support him, either.
Staying home or otherwise not voting for BHO is not the same as voting for him, saying that is frankly kind of silly.
He needs every vote he can get which is why the whole unity thing is being shoved down our throats.
It’s also why he’s trying to register prisoners and prison visitors.
Every vote he doesn’t get hurts him no matter where it goes.
The symbolism of the MLK and RFK anniversaries cannot be overstated, it’s the thing I have been most upset about since it is the cause of the “win at all costs” strategy, even at the expense of race relations.
The DNC believes any racial setbacks will be short-term and will be offset by the sybolism of their victory and they have been willing to stake everything on that belief.
That’s why they’ve stood idly by while the race card has repeatedly been played by their own side.
Symbolically, painting BHO as a vicim of racism works to their advantage in their minds as long as he wins.
As a black woman, I am offended on many levels about the whole thing, but mainly because I think it’s extermely dangerous to play with that kind of fire even if you think you can ultimately control it.
#364 thatswhattimeitis
Maybe Murphy could set up a phone number where people could register to get information through the mail. Just a thought.
#367 josgirl
Welcome. This is a forum in which people freely express ideas – but that is all.
No one is pushing any agenda. We only express how we personally feel.
Your opinions are important and the decisions you make for yourself are honored by everyone here.
There are many others here who will not vote for McCain in November should Hillary not be our nominee.
The only constant across all of the Hillary support groups is that no one will support BO. Each individual has their own ways in which they express this un-support.
Strategies range from (1) stay home (2) vote for a 3rd party candidate (3) write in Hillary’s name, and (4) vote for McCain.
#368 gina613
Good idea!
Definitely a market worth pursuing. I feel bad that they are left behind in this tech-centered world.
I found this info for Bill Clinton’s Harlem office. No email yet. Still looking.
President Bill Clinton’s Harlem Office can be contacted at (phone) 212-348-8882 (fax) 212-348-9245. The address is 55 West 125th Street, New York, New York 10027.
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Lin4Hill: Fact is, the only way to fight back on election day here in OREGON is to vote for McCain. The way this state has it setup is nuts. While an Oregon voter can
write-in Clinton’s name, it basically won’t count unless at the end of the tallies, her write-ins total quantity percentage surpasses Nobama’s. So, given that Nobama won this state in the primary, it would be highly unlikely that Clinton’s percentage would surpass his.
Any Oregonians on PUMA site today, please be aware of this. As Lin4Hill said, “the Dems need to be taught a hard, hard lesson for 4 years”.
We all had the best of the best teacher on “tenacity”. Hillary taught us all well. Now it’s our turn to put that skill to practice.
We’ll just have to bite the bullet and be a Republican (geez I can hardly stand to type the “R” word) for a brief hour…and vote for McCain.
When I googled how to contact President Bill Clinton this is what I got:
The Honorable William J. Clinton
55 W. 125th Street
New York NY 10027
TEL: (212) 348-8882
Fax:(212) 348-9245
When I went to the site for the foundation it only had forms to fill out to request a meeting with him. I hope this helps.
texassherry
antifish-It looks like we are thinking alike LOL
#376 tesassherry,
Great minds!
This is a form to fill out to contact him. Guess we could use it to send messages of support.
http://www.clintonfoundation.org/contact.htm
When talking to outsiders, I try to stand back and sound like a Demo pundit, just talking strategy without being confrontational.
I talk about which candidate has the best chance against McCain etc, or about the PUMA thing in third person.
If it actually comes down to Obama vs McCain after August…. Hm, I guess I could say something like “No matter what the HIllary supporters do, McCain will beat Obama — it’s just a matter of how big a defeat it will be for Obama. A lot of Hillary supporters think the DNC has been nominating losers for years and it’s time to teach them a big lesson.”
# 357 Violet Hill, The problem is that some of the kids nowadays are quite selfish, they don’t think about older people as being wiser, more experienced, they want what they want when they want it. Sad but true.
Our generation, baby boomers, appreciate our elders, understand that life experience stands for something, that we have learned from our mistakes, and our accomplishments. What is so wrong about being a senior citizen?
There are many cultures that revere their elders. Take the Native Americans for instance, they would never in a million years speak badly about their elders. We as American citizens, can learn from that.
One Love
Oops, meant texassherry! I know, don’t mess with Texas!
#372 zombie,
I’m just getting back. Is this a video you’ve already made or one you are going to make?
I think Mother Teresa was a beautiful angel on earth, and her words are the words of a woman who has met lives struggles and has love for all man kind. Please Read these most beautiful words from one of our revered elders:
People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered; Forgive them anyway. If you are kind, People may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives; Be kind anyway. If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies; Succeed anyway. If you are honest and frank, People may cheat you; Be honest and frank anyway. What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight; Build anyway. If you find serenity and happiness, They may be jealous; Be happy anyway. The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow; Do good anyway. Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough; Give the world the best you’ve got anyway. You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God; It was never between you and them anyway.
Mother Teresa
One Love
Just received this email from Clinton Dems.
Dear Clinton Dem,
There has been a lot of talk about Unity this week. Our very own Hillary has been required to smoke the “hopium”.
As hard as it is to stomach, Hillary needs to do this to stay in position to carry out the difficult work of putting the country on the road to recovery. To do that she has put aside her personal feelings…and I admire her even more for her ability to do that.
For many of us it has become personal. We can’t just “brush the shoulder off”. The “unity pony” is a dead horse and we won’t be riding.
I have been proud to be a Democrat my entire life. The principles that defined the party aligned with my personal vision of what America could and should be. That makes it all the more heartbreaking to realize the current Democratic leadership has reduced these guiding principles to “just words”.
That is why, no matter who is on the top of the ticket in the fall, we need to re-elect or elect down-ticket Democrats that support these principles.
See Hillary supporters in Congress here.
This is Hillary’s life purpose and she has risen above the rancorous primary for us…and our future. Let’s give her the help she needs to be successful. Volunteer for and donate to Democrats that support Hillary’s agenda for the country.
This is still our party. The core values of democracy and equal rights are still worth fighting for, so let’s get to work!
Pam
JULY 4TH ACTION
Declaration Of Independence
Contribute $20.08 to Hillary Clinton’s campaign at http://www.hillaryclinton.com on July 4 to retire her debt and show your independence from the Democratic Party line.
Together, we can send a strong message that the party’s nominee is not ours and that we will not unite behind it when it does not represent us, puts politics above the popular vote, and condones sexism and voting irregularities, to elect the chosen candidate of party officials.
Contributions made through the website will go to her retire Hillary’s debt …it has been confirmed that it can not, by law, go to Obama or the DNC.
This action item is a coordinated effort of the member organizations of the Just Say No Deal Coalition, including ClintonDems.com.
antifish-I wonder if calling the phone number if whoever answered could give us the best way to reach him?
#378 Turndownnobama said:
“When talking to outsiders, I try to stand back and sound like a Demo pundit, just talking strategy without being confrontational.
I talk about which candidate has the best chance against McCain etc, or about the PUMA thing in third person.”
I usually just ask a very open question such as “So, are you following the elections at all?”
Then let them tell you where they are at and if they are a Hillary supporter, you can take it one direction and if not, take it another.
I asked that to the lady at the restaurant and she just started pouring her heart out!
# 367 I bloged that last night I believe this has a very big impact on why BO must be our nominee 45 years to the day Of I have a dream its is really big in the eyes of the Dems they owe the AA and now Hillary is suppose to pay for all of them to have the dream IMO . I will vote JM I am sorry but I can’t watch him and the party get away with this it is to big a deal but I think everyone on here needs to do what they feel is best for them. My husband is Native american Next montth he will go and take his mother to the rez to visit her sisters he is very upset that as a life long Democrat they are always trying to group people as the most important who do they think they are is my question it is time we took back our goverment. anyway welcome
#278 k in the northwest THANK You for digging that up for us! As was stated earlier, and repeated by me, I say we all write Bill and convince him to take our cause to heart, and consider our argument and case!
http://dakiniland.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/bill-clinton-is-a-puma/
Here is a link to all the Hillary supporters in congress. It has phone numbers and email addresses.
pumaindy, thank you.
I have been around since the beginning, mostly lurking, participating quietly when able.
I had another user name, but I had trouble using it so I signed on with a different e-mail account.
I wouldn’t have commented at all except for the fact that I read so many “the only way to be effective is to vote for McCain” posts upthread, it kind of got to me.
oops sorry! here is the link to Hillary supporters in congress
http://clintondems.com/HRCCongress.htm
#374 Hillforme,
I’m with you 100%. I respect what others may want to do, but I think the best and most effective method to defeat *61 is to vote McCain if Hill is not the nominee.
Hey, what ever happened to Geraldine Ferraro ? Did we even hear a peep from her or did she just give up ? It is not like her. Maybe now that we have some publicity, she might not think we are just a handful of spiteful non-educated white women…
How about a more direct way of getting to Bill Clinton _via Chelsey Clinton. It may be impossible for our messages to reach the top guy but I think if we go through Chelsey and let her know … we are here and we have not abandoned the Clintons…
Does anyone know how to get to Chelsey… I am sure it is more accessible than Hillary or Bill… I am sure there is more censorship or “difficulty in deliverying” than Chelsey.
352 zombiefortruth
I looked up your name on YouTube and watched a video. It was interesting to watch. I noticed the video link below listed as a related video and clicked on it. I find it interesting in the link below that even Donna Brazile can’t answer questions about what Obama stands for on specific issues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmoCZfEeWBw&feature=related
I think of voting for McCain as setting Hillary up for 2012
I just read riverdaughter’s (Diane?) response to Ed Rendel’s plea to pumas to join his HOUNDs.
That lady can really write a piece can’t she? I was amazed at how well she spoke. Diane put Ed away in my view. She described my feelings about what happened and what’s going to happen this election year because of the undemocratic boloney pulled by cretins of the DNC. An absolutely astonishing bit of articulate writing.
Damn, I wish I was smart like a woman. Our Murphy has the same abilities.
From now on when I want to remind myself what PUMA is supposed to be standing, demanding and fighting for I’ll read that masterpiece by Diane. It said it all.
Man, we’re going places. When a great personaity like Ed Rendel (yeah, I think very highly of him) is moved into action by an upstart like PUMA you know we are a force to reckon with.
Murphy, the more I read about PUMAs notoriety the closer I am to contributing money. I still need a little more time to figure my numbers… AND to realize I’m not really a jinx.
Like I’ve said I had never given money to a political cause before until Hillary Clinton came along. And look what that got me and Hillary Clinton. Losses. Like with her debt I too wish I could get my money back. All I can do now is be more cautious in the future. As the case may be, though, I love money so much that it sometimes makes me feel self-centered too much.
Unlike with other people’s philosophies money VERY MUCH makes me happy. Couldn’t live without it. I would hate to part with it unless it was for a damn good cause.
PUMA is a worthy cause that has shown remarkable viability in such a short time. Proper organization is the reason for that. I feel better about chances with the pumas than with Hillary. Even with Hillary I wasn’t sold on her until that interview on the O’Reilly Factor. Now THAT’S the Hillary I sent money to. Never before or since have I seen her in such command of herself and the issues. O’Reilly paled in her presence. She looked real good. I thought she could win then.
I’d say within a week or two SOMETHING will be contributed by miserly maxgrader.
Hang in there with me, Murphy. Your hard work and dedication deserves rewards.
I only hope I’m not a jinx again.
One thing to say to the idealistic innocent young bots is that as Hillary’s VP, Obama would have 16 years in the White House, not just 8.
kids1627,
That complaint about the MLK/RFK anniversary and the resulting racism was the thrust of my letter to Howard Dean.
Symbolism is nice, but substance is critical.
In this case, it’s sorely lacking.
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#360 Hill4me- Yes it was for our Puma bracelets. I think purple would be purrrr…..fect!
In support of President Clinton, they can kiss my ‘Moon Pie’
violet,
Yes, even if Hillary still has the same energy at age 64 or 68, Bill certainly won’t. He will be due for another quad bypass heart surgery by 2020. This may be the only chance for the country to have his service as co-president again!
As for young bots being disappointed, he will probably lose in Nov anyway, but they can hope to try again. If he does get in, then they will really be disapppointed when they see how bad he performs!
If he gets more experience before running again, then he might perform better and be less disappointing to them.
Has anyone ever heard of this guy? According to Pelosi, he’s loved by veterans. I’m a vet and have never heard of him.
Pelosi Suggests Texan as Possible Obama VP
POSTED: Thursday, June 26, 2008
FROM BLOG: WSJ.com: Washington Wire – Political Insight and Analysis From The Wall Street Journal’s Capital Bureau
The following blog post is from an independent writer and is not connected with Reuters News. The opinions and views expressed herein are those of the author and are not endorsed by Reuters.com.
Sarah Lueck reports on Congress.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Rep. Chet Edwards’s work on veterans issues is one of the reasons shes suggested him as a possible running-mate for presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Edwards, a moderate Democrat from Waco, Texas, is the latest name in the Obama veepstakes. He is Mr. Veterans in Congress, Pelosi told reporters Thursday. The veterans know him, they love himHe would be a great addition to the ticket. In fact, just before her remarks, Edwards appeared with Sen. Jim Webb, another vice presidential contender, at a press conference celebrating the expected passage of new education benefits for veterans.
Pelosi said she thought some House members ought to be considered in Obamas veepstakes, and she said Edwards is one of the finest people Ive ever served with.
She was quick to add that, Any nominee that Sen. Obama chooses is A-Ok with me.
http://www.reuters.com/article/blogBurst/politics?type=politicsNews&w1=B7ovpm21IaDoL40ZFnNfGe&w2=B7tmRCRJt2YFzDsa7MJ1CblL&src=blogBurst_politicsNews&bbPostId=Cz8VNxdoPf3DxCzAZ7DZPKc3gnB8AtICCGGHCcB8xnNUpxM3ed&bbParentWidgetId=B7tmRCRJt2YFzDsa7MJ1CblL
#79 mayor0102
I agree with you about not unsubscribing and having fun with the replies to requests for donations. It may be a great way to be heard and the best part is it’s on their dime since they have to pay for the postage on the return envelope.
I love this guy, he talks a lot of sense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nu48TgUVCo
good afternoon puma’s im watching fox and freinds and all these clowns are just spewing their rhetoric ,ohh the dems will unite ,blah blah bllah , these idiots do not speak for me and none of them seem to get it , its the whole nomination deal idiots , never no name , never ,
(stay strong pumas ) god bless or whoever your higher power is lets get out the message nobama not now not ever PARTY UNITY MY ASS
… everyone is just doing fear mongering about McCain being a third term Bush.. Any monkey can come up with promises and strategy if they have a good enough spin machine (see David Axelrod for Obama) . I am not even for McCain (yet) but I think he is a decent, American loving person who has fierce loyalty to country. His agenda (like any other nominee) will never please all the people all the time but, I will only vote for someone that has my country at heart. Basic, fundamental, wholesome… if that someone really loves his or her country, they will do the right thing for the country..
I believe that the Obama’s have been caught once too many times with their basic fundamantal love of country in question. That is to put it mildly. If you don’t love me, I don’t care how much you profess to want to protect and serve me…or how many people you ask to convince me, or the slick PR ads your put out or if yu sent your wife to Political finishing school… everything to further bamboozle the country…. It is very simple.
And that is why I will never vote Barak Hussein Obama.
And we should get the word out – 5 emails to all friends/family/acquaintences/stranger on the street/ etc… it takes bravery to put ourselves out there… balls in fact… let us do it… 5 today, 5 tomorrow. multiply that by all the PUMA’s,,, it is a whisper campaign…
DO IT NOW !!!
Murphy & Antifish-What if we could set up a conference call with Bill Clinton? I don’t know how to do it but maybe someone does. If we could fill out one of the forms requesting it and include a date and number. We could tell him that we are all Clinton supporters who are outraged with the way his family has been treated and that we understand why Hillary can’t talk to us right now and that we really need to talk to him and have him answer our questions to help us heal. What do you think?
max,
I’m pretty careful about donations too. I think who needs donations most now is justsaynodeal.com They are very busy dealing with media, flying around to give interviews etc. It has taken off and they are swamped.
They run hireheels.com also. I’ve asked them how to donate.
#392 josgirl
Don’t be disheartened here. The decisions you make for yourself are honored by everyone here.
There are many others here who will opt for one of the 3 less aggressive ways to un-support BO. While it might seem (or actually be) that most who post will opt to vote for McCain (I am one of them), many will choose not to vote for McCain. Regardless, EVERYONE here respects the decision you make for yourself.
We had a very interesting discussion about this on last night’s blog.
Don’t be discouraged. Keep posting. We need you.
Feel welcome, as you are.
PUMAS, check out post #299 rosecityfriend. She has a link for someone who will match our donations to help pay off Senator Clinton’s debt. It is amazing how fast this can add up.
This is the link to President Clinton’s foundation (thanks #306 rosecityfriend) if you want to try and write him.
http://www.clintonfoundation.org
diva2
the day after the unfortunate day(HILLARY got off the race), I called H.´s headquater, they said she was not going to Denver(I hope she is) futhermore she was keeping her delegates and superdelegates
I kind of hate see the blog break into private groups. It is great that you found soul mates here but can’t you guys just use your regular E-mail or whatever it is the kids use to talk to each other on line? I refer new folks to this blog and they are always surprised and excited to see so many people who feel like they do. A lot of Hillary supporters still feel like they are alone in being creeped out by the BO movement. Also many Hillary supporters have been verbally abused and mocked by BO supporters so they are thrilled to find PUMAs. It is great having so many different peoples energy and ideas in one place. I also read your letters to various officials and use some of your ideas when I write my own letters. I assume anything you guys post is fair game for idea poaching.
#367–Josgirl:
I agree with your analysis regarding the race card, I also have been upset about the balant use of racism as an issue since the onset in SC, it brings tears to my eyes to think about how MLK died for this issue and forty years later it has been used as though it means nothing. That is when I turned away from Senator Obama. It is truly a dangerous game to divide folks the way it has been done in this campaign, what he must do and understand which I think Senator Obama does is that all folks do not want him as president for reasons other than his race, stop using it as a crutch. And as he says,”get over it”.
#12: #12 Henerietta: I am so glad you brought that up. Yes, I heard the statement regarding NV and NM go before MI and FL to allow states with high populations of Blacks to have their voices heard first…I watched the RBC sham, live in FL, and full the full brunt of their actions. I noticed how they threw in and Mexicans. I really believe this is why the party came down so hard on us. It wasn’t admitted until one of the Clinton reps kept mentioning how 4 other states were not penalized, and we were. Thanks for posting that because I didn’t know the man’s name who said that. They used MI and FL to give the nomination to O. It’s hot down here, but we are hotter.
I’m equally disturbed by the news coverage about President Bush calling the elections in Zimbabwe a “sham.” I haven’t followed the elections in Zimbabwe, but it seems to me that there are an awful lot of parallels to our own Democratic primaries.
Anyone’s input for my suggestion on #410 would be appreciated.
276 vadaryl on 06.28.08 at 1:31 pm I am still very upset that CNN’s Anderson Cooper on 360 never discussed the 25% Hillary supporters not backing Obama instead spent that time discussing Bill. Also not posting our posts on his blog during the show. I suggest that we overload his blog on Monday and all week to show him we will not put up with that.
GREAT IDEA AND THE BLOG DOES NOT HAVE TO BE MUCH IT JUST HAS TO SAY:
DEAR ANDERSON
THIS IS A PERSONAL INVITATION FOR YOU TO JOIN US AT PUMA PAC, WHERE YOU CAN CLEANSE YOUR SOUL!
RACISM: The prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races.
#398 maxgrader whateever you choose to do, keep contributing in whatever ways you like such as posting, writing letters,etc. I do want to make a point that ANY donation is helpful — even $5. Many people are on fixed incomes and can’t donate so no one is judged here on how much they give or not. We are all trying to move our groups forward and money helps but so do other ways, also.
We are lucky to be together and to have so many sister organizations with all the same message and their different strengths.
Great day!
texassherry:
Don’t you think Bill in the same boat as Hillary. They have to say nice things now about Obama. He can’t say what he really thinks. He’s into “unity” supposedly. We are honest enough to say Party Unity My Ass.
For a conference to be arranged would be puzzling to me, my friend.
#420terrydo He is probably afraid Brazilla will give hiim “the look” if he acknowledges our existence.
Smile, they are noname’s network for months now.
#419 texassherry
I was waiting for Murphy to answer you. This 527 PAC has to be very careful about NOT being affiliated with any particular candidate or his/her campaign. I do not now how contacting Bill Clinton fits into the rules.
I was not ignoring you – I just don’t have an answer for you. Someone more informed needs to comment.
please excuse typos in posts. ughhhh.
#410 texassherry
I’m not sure that Bill could risk telling us anything he and Hillary don’t want made public.
My take on the situation is that Hillary is doing what she must for two reasons.
One, if she returns to the Senate, she needs all the cooperation she can get to continue fighting for the causes she champions. She can’t reform healthcare or do all the other things that are important to our country if people hold a grudge against her.
Two, she’s winning over Obama supporters. Image what would happen if Obama self-destructs between now and Denver. If superdelegates then decide to give the nomination to Hillary, she will need Obama’s supporters behind her. She’s laying the groundwork now.
Thanks Maxgrader and pumaindy. I wasn’t thinking about the legal issues. I am new at this so I apologize if I come up with stupid ideas. It would be great though to hear from Bill. I know is is really mad like us but you are probably right when you say that he has to play along. It is sad that politics has to work this way.
Thanks Firebelle puma. You are right.
Texassherry I am all for anything we can do to get President Clinton involved, directly or indirectly. Don’t know how to do that but when you write his foundation, wouldn’t hurt to ask! Keep the ideas coming.
RACISM: The prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races.
Somehow #421 got posted before I could complete my thought.
Racism applies to all races not just ie., white against blacks, blacks against Koreans, Latinos etc.
What I am stating is the fact that we are all racist in one form of another.
Some people don’t like or appreciate Italian, some call us “Garlic Noses” Others do not like Germans, Irish,etc., I think you get my point.
But SEXISM: Discriminatory or abusive behaviour towards members of the opposite sex.
Now sexism is a big problem since it effects 50% of the femal population, which usally receives the negative result of sexism.
So, when I still hear Obama supporters finally confirming that their was definitely sexism in the Democratic Race, however it is always a conditional concession because they are quite to add, that their was also racism..
That is like saying their were lemons, but their were also oranges so they balance each other out.
They Just Do Not Get It, sexism effects all of us, including men, who are lover of women and do not fear our power and social balance in the order of human evolution.
And if we do not put a stop to it now, then when?
diva2-I am just so afraid that Obama will ruin the Clinton legacy. He has done a lot of damage already. Bill Clinton has been the best president in my lifetime (my opinion), and I can’t stand it when anyone disrespects him.
#425 pumaindy. Good point!
#428 texassherry
There’s nothing stupid about what you suggested. You’re expressing something we all feel. In this case, however, we need to comfort and reassure each other, because Hillary and Bill aren’t in a position to say the things we want to hear. Never be hesitant to reach out to fellow Pumas for reassurance.
Besides, sometimes these crazy ideas we bandy about amongst ourselves lead to great plans.
diva2:
I certainly can part with $5. That at least will be fed to the pumas.
We should all do a psychological thing and to say to ourselves that $5 won’t be noticed missing from our banks. It’s so insignificant an amount individually, but collectively with hundreds of pumas (maybe thousands?) it adds up to a powerful influence.
I’m going to work on an idea for group motivation.
Firebellepuma-thank you.
texassherry
I’ve posted this a couple of times before, but you may not have seen it. I’m reposting it for your entertainment.
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To my fellow Pumas who mourn the show of unity Hillary must now provide, I offer this …
I like to look at this as though I were a fiction writer who understands that great stories demand great conflict. Great stories demand that the heroine be continually beset with seemingly insurmountable obstacles, each one bigger and tougher than the one before it, until finally it appears that all is lost. Then, and only then, can the writer allow the heroine to emerge victorious and provide the audience with the most delicious and satisfying ending possible.
This is still Act II, dear Pumas, not Act III. And in Act II, things must still get worse before they can get better. Our heroine Hillary fought valiantly during a difficult primary season, and yet she failed to secure the nomination. So now, the plot thickens. Now our heroine Hillary must do the heretofore unthinkable and infiltrate enemy territory. It’s a more daring and precarious plan that she has undertaken before, but her options are few.
Key to her success is convincing the evil Nobama and his ilk that she supports him wholeheartedly. But her loyal Pumas know better. So do our allies in other camps. It’s a ruse. It’s a diversion. It’s 18 million cracks in a glass ceiling through which we can slip in and attack. It is a brilliant plan, dear Pumas.
Like you, I fear for our heroine Hillary in the clutches of the evil Nobama. But we must remain brave and stalwart Pumas. We must do the things that our heroine Hillary cannot do now.
Sadly, not all of us can march on Denver. Not all of us have the resources to help pay down Hillary’s debt. Not all of us are gifted at writing letters and emails. But by pooling our energies and resources, we can do great things. Together, we are invincible.
MY OCTOBER SURPRISE FOR OBAMA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm2xAu9n95M
Rated R: Restricted — Strong language, Racist Content, Some of this material may not be suitable for children. Please Advise!
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#431 TerryDo on 06.28.08 at 5:01 pm
LOL, that was funny, I should have reread my statement before submitting, it reads ” it effects 50% of the femal population”
Of Course, I meant to say it effect 50% of the population.
Firebelle Puma-thanks again. I needed that. I was starting to feel depressed again and I know I need to be strong.
Sheesh. I try to ignore them.. i try….
But the washington post story and the comments on it (nasty just NASTY) got the better of me. I am for the moment entertained by the fact that since posting some detailed facts about “conservative agenda” votes where McCain voted WITH Obama and against the R majority, suddenly no response to me. Well, I promised not to bore anyone further with facts, but maybe that was already too much LOL
For those times you need ammo, ask people if they have read through the FEC campaign finance disclosure information, and reviewed the candidates’ legislative records. I don’t think I’ve run across one yet who could answer yes on both.
They can think I’m basing my vote on emotion but I know otherwise.
ANYway…. *g*
I would second (third?) the idea of forum software. It tends to work really well with a large, active group where lots of things are going on all at once. It’s much more organized, easy to follow, pop in on the stuff you are interested in and bypass what you don’t have time for. Also many of them have a “PM” or private message feature. It’s not like instant messaging– it’s like email-lite where within the forum you also have a private inbox. You can send PMs to people like emails, but directly. Like, if you read a post from someone and want to respond directly “offlist” you can usually click a button and it will bring up an email-like screen to type and send. No need to go back and forth between email and the forum itself. That part alone can be really helpful.
The site forummatrix.org has a ton of info on the capabilities of the different softwares, and you can do a detailed wizard search to identify what ones best meet your needs. It’s good for comparison.
A little frustrating to navigate, but this site
http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=3&id=75&Itemid=1
lets you demo the different forums. You can “register” for them, post, etc. Also they should give login for the demo admin side (some features disabled of course LOL) to see what is possible.
Here is a direct link to the demo of one of the forums, if anyone wants to see what they’re like:
http://demo.opensourcecms.com/punbb/
#440 texassherry
You’re welcome, dear Puma. That’s what we’re all here for.
#343 pumaindy
That little piece of information is dynamite. Where is that info? That should be the battle cry for many of our actions up to and during the convention. Instead of 44 we can become 88. Love it.
It would seem to me that if some significant democrat, say M. Angelou, or perhaps Terry McAuliffe, or maybe Carl Levin, would join our group, it would be benneficial. Do any of us personally know a signinficant one that can be targeted for membership? Perhaps some celebrity? Maybe Senator Evan Byah?
Of course Senator Byah’s father, Senator Birch Byah introduced the first attempt to reform elections in 1971. The elder Senator Byah might be a good choice to start with.
Or perhaps Robert Kennedy Jr? He has been a stalwart supporter of Hillary, and has been on the front lines of election reform as well.
Just some thoughts…..
Heneri
TerryDo
You are right.
It makes me so mad when they say sexism is no worse than racism.
The worst is when they say talking about sexism is “playing the gender card”.
We’ve earned the right to talk about sexism but no one has the right to call traditional white democrats racists. Everything every gain against racism they owe to us.
#333 twistedkilt on 06.28.08 at 3:05 pm
[[ imo, the Republicans wanted Obama as the candidate. I always felt that they think they can discredit him more easily than Hillary...]]
They thought BHO would be easier to beat. I don’t think they knew that he was a hustler.
Henerietta- I agree it would be great to have someone well known to join us. I think it would make people take us more seriously.
KY KITTEN #92
Glad to see some one else from Kentucky here.
#444 BitCatLover
I found this link if it helps verify: http://womenshistory.about.com/od/suffrage1900/a/august_26_wed.htm
I was basing my knowledge on the movie “Iron Jawed Angels”, but the above article seems to confirm the date.
I hope the information is correct.
08/26/1920 trumps 08/26/1968
Wouldn’t it be nice if the Clintons, even Chelsea, were able to join us? I am sickened at the hold the party has on so many people. It seems that in this country, we are not really free anymore. It looks like that shining light on the hill has been snuffed out in the name of power and party unity. How sad.
Heneri
Big surprise here. Simmons (and Brazilla) shilled for Obama for months on CNN.
Simmons To DNC
Jamal Simmons, a regular presence on cable television, is joining the Democratic National Committee as a communications consultant — the latest in a series of moves to install loyalists of Barack Obama within the national party organization.
Simmons will be tasked with bolstering the DNC’s rapid response operation as well as working on a long term strategic communications plan and continuing his role as a television surrogate for Obama.
Like nearly every operative in the Democratic party, Simmons got his start in the 1992 campaign of Bill Clinton before moving on to serve as chief of staff to Michigan Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick. In 2004, he was the traveling press secretary for the presidential campaigns of Sen. Bob Graham (Fla.) and retired Gen. Wesley Clark. Simmons is currently the president of New Future Communications.
Simmons joins a growing group of Obama-ites at the DNC including Paul Tewes who is running the everyday political affairs of the committee and Brad Woodhouse who is overseeing the day to day communications operation. Karen Finney, the current communications director at the DNC, will remain in that role and still be an on the record spokeswoman for the organization.
By Chris Cillizza | June 28, 2008; 4:50 PM ET | Category:
Good Saturday everyone!
This is part of Barack’s resume. What surprised me the most is that the Boston Globe did the article. Wanted to grab it and share before it got “lost.”
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/
Henerietta- I agree. I wish they would start a new party of moderate democrats. I think most americans are somewhere in the middle. Bush was too far one way and Obama is too far the other way. If the democratic party is going to go liberal with Obama then I am going to have to change my party because it doesn’t represent me anymore.
Huffington Post Headline: ‘Obama Undercuts His Brand’
Want more evidence that some of Democrat presidential nominee Barack Obama’s recent campaign maneuvers aren’t going over very well with the ultra-left in this nation?
Take a look at the headline at the front page of the Huffington Post Saturday:
Obama Undercuts His Brand
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/06/28/huffington-post-headline-obama-undercuts-his-brand
OBAMA HAS NO IDEA HOW HIS TAX PLAN WILL WORK
How is Obama going to fix Social Security? The One has NO IDEA. Yet, that’s not stopped him from coming up with more Change We Can’t Believe In.
In Thursday’s Wall Street Journal, Donald L. Luskin reports the following:
Would it help Social Security’s financing problems? Mr. Obama has no idea. One of his senior economic advisers admitted to me that no one on the campaign has run any detailed models or performed any rigorous analysis. When one proposes an enormous tax increase, shouldn’t there at least be a spreadsheet somewhere?
Ya think? Nah, not for The One. He just knows. Trust him.
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/28/obama-has-no-idea-how-his-tax-plan-will-work/
PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON SAYS OBAMA CAN KISS MY ASS!!!—-P.U.M.A.
Wow did I hear that right?
read the whole story:
http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/default.aspx
Obama Religious Affairs Adviser: ‘Jesus Was an Illegal Alien’
Michelle Boorstein, writing in the Washington Post’s The Trail, sounded more like she was presenting a glowing Barack Obama campaign press release than a political story when she announced the hiring of Obama’s new religious affairs adviser:
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/06/27/obama-religious-affairs-adviser-jesus-was-illegal-alien
Hello PUMAs,
I went out on the prowl today to one of BO’s events in my area. It was at a coffee house and there were actually people there this time. Alot of young people. They were playing a video with some younger girl gushing about how BO was going to save the world. I did not drink the Koolaid and I left them some PUMA cards. Then I went and put out fliers around the area.
I think Bill Clinton has just redeemed himself for his L- mess.
I have some very serious concerns that I want investigated. At first I thought that I was just being paranoid, but the more I read the more concerned I became. I’ll try to put this in the order that it unfolded to me and see where it goes.
1. early in the campaign, i would see his bloggers refer to a “secret weapon”.
2. So many power Dems, the media and the mob of fans were so convinced that he had it wrapped up. even went as far to say that “all 6 polls” said he was going to win and the “movement” (equal to the likes of JFK and Dr.King) was sweeping the nation. local media were actually speechless and I had to watch Hillary’s victory speech on BBC.
3. that’s when my gut started telling me i needed to know more. You will find on the DNC website under the 50 state strategy, a tape of Howard Dean speaking for the Liberal Leadership Convention in Canada in either 2005 or 2006 where he refers to a “permanent election” where we will win every state, every city, every town and every corner of the USA. There’s also a reference in a speech he gave to the Congressional Black Caucus that it was the Dem. party that gave them Sen. Obama. that was in 2006.
4. They didn’t realize that Hillary would be so well accepted and do so well. That being the case, they had to start working harder. Then I started hearing reports of how he beat her through the caucuses. It clicked..the secret weapon..every city every town..Howard Dean had set this fifty state plan into action several years ago and now the results were starting to pay off but not as well as they had expected. Every time they were sure this strategy was going to bring a win and they got cocky, Hillary would win.
5. Evidence that the media was in on it is that, when she won, rather than reporting about how well she had done and congratulating her, all the press were questioning “why didn’t he beat her?” “How could all of the polls have been so wrong?” It’s because the media made up the numbers. They thought for sure the 50 state strategy would surely work in this state…wrong again.
6.With each failure their strategy lost a little more of it’s power and so they started manipulating the press in a way that each time Hillary had a great victory, one of the supper delegates would step up the next day and endorse him. Kennedy, then Kerry, etc. to keep Hillary out of the lime light.
7.The entire time that Hillary was leading by 175 delegates, they were never mentioned because they were sure that the popular vote was going to get him in. When that plan fell apart, suddenly the delegates began to accumulate in his favor. A drastic increase which in no way can that be a coincidence.
8.He out spent her 3 to 1 yet all he could do was come up with a tie. It is virtually unheard of for the Dem. party to start calling for a candidate to drop out…what nerve!
9.Since he couldn’t get past that tie, the supper delegates held a “behind-closed-doors” meeting, (against the rules) I think it was 20 of them, and endorsed him all at the same time.
10.In spite of the fact that Hillary had the most votes, and practically tied in delegates, and won the big swing states and most of the last primaries, He has appointed himself the “presumptive” candidate. I emphasize “presumptive” because he isn’t even that by legal means.
11.the convention is in August which is when the official candidate is chosen, yet they were calling for her to drop out, Nancy Polosi starts demanding a decision from the supper delegates, BY THE END OF JUNE etc. etc. etc.
And I didn’t even mention Florida and Michigan in that mess.
There is a method and a madness behind every move he makes. He won’t debate McCain until after the convention when there’s no chance he could screw up so bad that it could cause him to lose and it be turned over to Hillary. McCain won’t vet Obama because he has to wait until after the convention because he knows he can’t beat Hillary.
A couple of questions.
1.Just who exactly was it that was asking the “new” Senator if he would consider running for the most powerful job in the U.S.? thus the video of him saying he isn’t qualified. Just two years ago.
2.Is it a coincidence that Kerry introduced this fantastic speaker at the DNC Convention in 2006? Now Kerry is one of the first supper delegates to endorse him and stab Hillary in the back? and now two years later this great manipulative speaker is running for President?
3.What ever happened to equal air time? He was given a complete hour to “justify” his preacher!
4. Lets pretend that he is already President. If his close friend was indited and sentence to jail, and his preacher turned out to be anti-American, and we find out that his cousin is Odinga and he left an important meeting to take a call from him, would those be grounds enough to impeach him? I doubt it. Since they don’t seem to be enough to keep him out of office to begin with!!!
Nancy Polosi in a recent interview stated that apparently Sen. Clinton’s mistake was in ignoring caucus process and that she failed to look at the over all election process. (not her exact wording, but that is what she was saying)
I also recall the media bragging about the fact the “they beat her” but not from the outside. This time they did it from the “inside”
I’m sure there’s a lot more I’ve forgotten, but the most important point I want to make is this:
ANY HONEST PERSON HAS TO ADMIT THAT IF HILLARY HAD ANY “ONE” OF THOSE THINGS IN HER CAMP, SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN SHAMED BEYOND BELIEF AND FORCED TO WITHDRAW!!!
WE NEED TO PROVE THAT THE DEM. ALONG WITH THE HELP OF THE MEDIA HAVE BEEN PREPPING SEN. OBAMA FOR THIS ROLL FOR 2 YEARS. YOU DIDN’T SEE ANY OF THAT 50 STATE STRATEGY EXTENDED TO SEN. CLINTON.
Nobama for Pres….no thanks. I’m not that desperate yet!
I’m not angry that my candidate didn’t win. I just don’t want to regret that Nobama did !!!
#336 Lin4Hill For your viewing interest
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3zh7v_tavis-smiley-gen-colin-powell-pbs_news
#342 – me too (Hawaii) where you from bra?
#399 – I don’t get that. How would BO get 16 years under the VP scenario.
Obama Standing on the Shoulders of USA’s 1st Black President Bill Clinton
by Frank James
/Here’s an interesting thought: Sen. Barack Obama’s legions of admirers and supporters should thank the Clintons because without them, Obama’s road to the White House would be a lot steeper if not impossible.
Peter Beinart, a senior fellow at the Council of Foreign Relations, makes that very compelling argument in an essay in Time magazine. Beinart’s on to something.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/obama-standing-on-the-shoulders-of-usas-1st-black-president/
For starters, Clinton deracialized American politics. He didn’t deracialize it completely, of course. But knitting together a coalition of blacks and whites is easier today because Clinton restored the Democrats’ credibility on economic issues and took three of the most racially toxic issues in U.S. politics–crime, welfare and affirmative action–off the table
This is my reply to an e-mail I just got from Senator Clinton titled UNITY:
Dear Senator Clinton,
Thank you for keeping me informed of what you are doing. It is always good to hear from you. You will always have my respect and admiration. It is unfortunate however, that this time I will not be able to join you in supporting Senator Barack Obama, for I do not consider him to be a man of integrity and someone I can put my trust in. I am indeed very concerned about the future of our country if this man is elected president. In fact, I am very determined to do everything in my power to make sure this does not happen. My patriotism and loyalty to the country that has given me and my family so many opportunities does not permit me to continue to support a party that in my view and understanding of democracy has abandoned its core principles and lost its moral compass.
If you are not the democratic nominee, my entire family and I will be casting our votes for the only other viable and patriotic choice on the ballot, Senator John McCain. I will not fall in line in support of an unexperienced and dishonest candidate. I will not compromise my children’s future in the name of party unity.
I thank you and your beautiful family for all you have done for our country. It is because of people like you that I continue to have hope that our nation will overcome its many challenges. And if your candidacy is not a possibility at this time, I will continue to look forward to having the opportunity to vote for you again in a future election.
Sincerely,
P.U.M.A. DEMOCRAT
————– Original message ————–
From: Hillary Clinton
On February 8, in Unity, New Hampshire, 107 people voted for me, and 107 people voted for Senator Barack Obama.
Today, Barack and I were in Unity to celebrate a unified Democratic Party focused on electing him the next president. I was proud to stand with him today, and I will do whatever I can to help his campaign between now and November.
Senator McCain and the Republicans may have hoped that we wouldn’t join forces like this. They may have wished that we wouldn’t stand united to fight this battle with everything we’ve got.
But I’ve got news for them: We are one party; we are one America; and we are not going to rest until we take back our country and put it once again on the path to peace, prosperity, and progress in the 21st century.
Sincerely,
Hillary
Obama’s Web Site Blows Disclaimer, Now Responsible for All Hate Speech
http://www.husaria.wordpress.com/
Forum software would be great — and pumaparty.com already has it set up and is offering us and everyone the use of it!
I am going to go posting on Craigslist. It is kind of messy out there but they do have a free Politics section. http://www.craigslist.org/about/sites.html
You have to post by city and they limit you on posting the same thing over and over.
RE:75 ABinNY LOL I FELT THE SAME WAY YESTERDAY
GET UR F**”IN HANDS OFF HER LOL
CREEP ITS JUST LIKE BEING KISSED BY AN RAPEST!!!!!!
YUK YUK YUK
DISGUSTING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks pumaindy for the link.
On Bill Clinton:
Someone very near to me has had heart bypass surgery, so I know how important it is not to get too stressed for a long period of time. When Bill Clinton said that this primary will probably be the last one that he participates in, I think he was saying that his doctor’s have warned him how dangerous it is to his health to be on the front lines of so many attacks. And on an darker note, I think the media knows their constant calls for him to come out and endorse Obama could be a death sentence for him. Sorry, but I think they love this kind of sick thing.
#348 – I can’t speak for Murphy but I’m guessing it is less a matter of “correctness” and more a desire to maintain a high level of credibility on this site. She prefers that we speak to the issues and not stoke the fires of racism or hate. It’s a noble effort on her part and I applaud her sincerity and consistency.
# 405 Regarding Pelosi:
since she decided that Impeachment was off the table, I don’t give a $%^& what she says on any subject. If RMN had been held accountable for his actions in the ’70′s we wouldn’t have a presidency now that can so brazenly defy the constitution; and her forgiving their actions is indefensible.
bigticer
enjoyed your videos . . . glad to see that you’re another older white female ( at least that’s how the media is describing us all ). Seriously though, I love
the concept: show flip-flop and caption ” is this the kind of change we can expect? Barack . . . Keep The Change.”
check out Jesse Loren from Just Say No Deal on MSNBC
She gave a great interview.
BO’s middle name seems to get far more press than it deserves. He had no choice in his name; there’s also nothing wrong with his name. Where he made a choice was in refusing to allow women wearing head scarves to appear on stage with him. In fact he has never been photographed with Muslim women, nor with the Mayor of SF. How does he propose to “bring us together” when he refuses to deal with various members of our
American community. Islam is one of the world’s great religions and it is as much folly to call every Muslin a
terrorist as it is suggest that every Catholic supported Father Coughlin in the 1930′s or that every Protestant church in Germany supported Hitler. Every group has people of whom they are not proud.
#468 luckytlc
I agree that those comments are out of line. We can all get a little feisty now and then, but it’s best to remember that we want this site to be a reflection of the greatness that Hillary inspires in us. Let’s make Hillary proud.
Margaret, google Democracy for America and Republicans for Obama.
Those websites just might answer some of your questions.
#461 Margaret here’s a link to the “about” page for DFA:
http://www.democracyforamerica.com/about
#461 Margaret,
YOU ROCK!!!!!!
got to go now…I’ll check back later.
GO PUMAS!
Stay Classy, Obama Supporters
Those who are crammed in under the Obama campaign bus better make room for one more guest. Philadelphia’s subtly named The Bulletin (I’ve never heard of it either) reports:
Gen. Merrill A. McPeak, the most senior retired general advisor the Obama campaign, raised a few eyebrows when he suggested John McCain, the former POW and presumptive nominee, is, shall we say, pleasantly plump.
“He was fresh out of jail, you know,” Gen. McPeak told the Washington Times. Both he and Mr. McCain sat in the same National War College class in 1973-74.
“Skinny kid. All beat up of course, physically. But quite thin. They weren’t feeding him very well in Hanoi. He’s done very well at the dinner table in Washington,” the general added.
It’s a good thing Obama is so repulsed by even the thought of personal insults inveighing on his upliftingly pristine campaign. If he weren’t, can you imagine how ugly his supporters’ comments would be?
RE: #468, the touching….
All the pundits commenting that the “body language” was right..in whose estimation?
Hillary is a Methodist woman, for God’s sake! That much invasion of her personal space had to make her want to just dash off for a quick shower and change of clothes, perhaps burn the blue pantsuit as well.
Was it just the audio quality or did anyone else think her voice was just a little tense….
Happy to be with you PUMAS.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Weblogs/TWSFP/TWSFPView.asp
Here is the link to post #477. Take a look. Several interesting posts regarding Barack and his policy.
~J
#461 Margaret
WOW! Excellent reading. You connected some dots that I never considered. Thank you for your post
“About Republicans for Obama
Republicans for Obama is a grassroots organization of proud party members who all share one important trait— we are Americans first and Republicans second. (Even if it is a close second.) Founded in late 2006 as part of the nationwide effort to encourage Senator Obama to run for the Presidency, our volunteer-run, grassroots group now includes over 2000 registered members from across the nation.”
http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=homepage
Howard Dean Starts Democracy for America
June 20, 2004
Inspired by the presidential campaign of Howard Dean, Democracy for America (DFA) is a political action committee dedicated to supporting fiscally conservative, socially progressive candidates at all levels of government — from school board to the presidency. DFA fights against the influence of the far right-wing and their radical, divisive policies and the selfish special interests that for too long have dominated our politics.
By recruiting and encouraging progressive candidates to run for office at every level, DFA will help take this country back one political race at a time. We assist candidates in finding the resources to run a successful campaign by providing funds and training volunteers and staff for these races. By partnering with like-minded organizations, harnessing the power of the Internet, Democrats throughout the country will get elected not only this November, but for years to come.
BURLINGTON, VT (PRWEB) May 15, 2004 –Today, Governor Howard Dean and his grassroots organization, Democracy for America, announced Dean’s Dozen – twelve diverse candidates that represent the spirit of grassroots democracy…
…Barack Obama for United States Senate from Illinois. In the race to regain control of the U.S. Senate, Democrats have few better chances to pick up a seat than in Illinois. DFA volunteers all over Illinois helped Obama win his primary, now they are helping him win the general. Governor Dean will be on the trail with Barack soon.
Margaret Fantatistic thoughts. Good job!
#461 Margaret: We are on the same page. You put it together in precise and clarified reasoning. We are coming close to the final act before intermission in all of this. For those looking at the spike in the polls, start paying close attention to them when the lights begin to blink announcing the end of the intermission and the beginning of the second act.
#452 Antifish
I is probably better to restrict use of terms like Brazilla to private.
RE: 472 I can respect that !!!!! You have to understand i just wagtched the news lol
What was i thinking watching those shows lol
BTW #461, I left the most important thought out of#482…AWESOME piece!
I have been a member of AARP for many years and am trying to work out something with them for an ad or article about PUMA in their Bulletin or AARP Magazine.
I’ll post when we work it out. It can be presented as a voters information notice or possibly an article. I have done some freelance work, but may need ideas or help with wording.
Also, flyers at Senior Centers, are allowed, but ask permission first. I also drop off at several of the Assisted Living Centers and VFW halls.
Just an idea.
#484 luckytlc
You’re forgiven. Pumas watch each other’s backs.
#461- MARGARET
Suma Cum Laude
#392 – Josgirl – Welcome, and you are respected for your choice of protest. I do understand. Also, excellent point on symbolism v. substance. Reminds me of the movie line in The Truman Show when the Ed Harris says, “Cue the music.” Is America so shallow that we can’t see through this? As I mentioned earlier, I hope we do have a wonderful African American president some day–the point being–he or she must be wonderful, truthful, and not hung up on the symbolism.
#385 – Daddy’sDarlin – Thanks for sharing Mother Teresa’s words–she is a heroine for all of us, and those were definitely inspiring words.
#461 – Margaret – If anywhere near the truth–and I think you may be there–it’s amazing Hillary did as well as she did. She had to have the strength of Xena to fight off that tsunami of manipulation. And she still holds her head up high.
$462 – headoverhills – Thanks–I’ll check it out.
#432 – worry not, the Clinton legacy cannot be undone.
Hi everyone, hope you are all well, I have been recuperating from surgery so I haven’t been on here much for the last 4 days.
I just watched CNN and I have said I am done with that damn program but I caught the tail end of Stephanie Miller a radio talk show host bashing Hillary and saying that the Puma pac is a bunch of older women supporting Hillary because they want to see a woman become president in their life time. I do not think it is right for a bo supporter to give an opinion about Puma’s. I don’t know if anyone else saw it but I am going to blast CNN because I am so tired of this crap.
As far as “where is Bill Clinton” well they bashed him when he was in the public eye and said he should stay out of the lime light and now that he is not appearing before the cameras he is still bashed. I for one really thought Bill was a terrific president. Our economy was good and we weren’t sending our men and women off to war to be slattered.
I am sorry if I sound angry but I have had it with the news media and bo supporters.
Murphy you can delete this if it is offensive but I just have to vent.
#462 HeadoverHills,
Aloha! Kailua, Oahu. You?
#433 josgirl,
Thank you for the link, I’ll go check it out now.
Does anyone know if there is the post last night, #767 DWPforHill..about some supper delegates asking us to pass the word that if Hillary doesn’t get her roll call at the convention, they plan to walk out?
I think we should take heart in all this Puma bashing. Interesting description since our media spokespeople are both male and female mostly in their 30′s.
Also interesting that they keep throwing Roe v. Wade up to a bunch of older women who are finished birthin’ babies. LOL
#491, I know what you mean! ALL stations are bashing McCain just like they did to Hillary! They are now saying BHO has the Latino vote…he really came dwon on John today….but good ole john didn’t say anything about Barry….shows you that he’s a great man! After swearing, I just turn off the news! I’m really sick of them saying we will fall in line…I can’t wait until Nov 4….Pres. McCain….storming have to run …..later
Sorry I didn’t mean to imply that she is not being truthful.
#494 alohapuma
You’re right. Puma bashing is really free advertising in disguise.
Barbara4Hill,
Hope you are well.
As far as I’m concerned, you can vent to your heart’s content.
Just don’t hurt yourself, okay?
I think it is a wonderful idea to send supportive messages to Bill Clinton and let him know how much we reemember everything he did for the country. Everybody needs strokes from time to time (we puma cats know this very well) and this is the perfect time to stroke him.
As far as Stephenie Miller goes, I used to be a big fan, but from the very beginning of the campaign she was head over heels for Obama and awful about Hillary. It paid off for her because she is now on tv all the time and I’m sure there was money in it for her (she is a radio personality on Air America). One by one each Air America host came on board for Obama. It was bizarre and had to be because it helped their careers.
#491 Barbara4Hill
Yes, best wishes as you recover from surgery. Get lots of rest, and take care of yourself.
#494 alohapuma
Thanks. your comment made me chuckle. My BP must be sky high after watching CNN. No more I am done watching the news. I’ll just go and vote in Nov. and wake up in the morning and see who won, and I hope it is Hillary
#498 josgirl
Thank you, just need an extra BP pill……LOL. I think if CNN wants comments about Puma’s then they should get in touch with Murphy and not someone that is giving their opinion of what we stand for.
RE: ANTI-McCAIN POSTS
This is in response to someone who posted yesterday (and to other similar posts I’ve seen).
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but I thought this website wasn’t the place for people to smear McCain and to urge us to not only NOT vote for him but to also NOT stay home on Nov 4… Seems that the person was implying that the best choice is to vote Dem (meaning for BO!) on Nov 4.
I know that McCain is not the perfect or ideal candidate and has his faults… but even our hero, Hillary, has some faults and I certainly have criticized some things she has said and done. But, regardless, I still always thought she was by far the best and most qualified candidate to be our next president. If HRC is not the nominee, then McCain is my second choice despite his shortcomings. I also feel that voting for him is the best way to protest the Dem party and DNC’s actions and ensure that BO doesn’t win in Nov. I also think that a McCain win gives HRC the best chances of running again in four years… and becoming our president!
Now about some of the dirt that the poster threw at McCain:
First, it seems pretty low to me to hit McCain with the thing about him leaving his crippled wife many, many years ago. To get into people’s marital/personal matters or issues is (generally) out of line since we don’t know the full story from each of the people involved (as in their breakup, in this case). His ex-wife herself (the one he “left”) has stated that they are still friends and that the breakup was not because she became disabled.
These charges are similar the people that criticize Hillary because she stayed with a man that was unfaithful to her! Who are we to judge what two people should do with their marriage and why they should or shouldn’t break up!
As for the charge that McCain insulted both Hillary and Chelsea in the 90s… It’s interesting that Hillary considers McCain a close friend so I’m sure that any hurt, if there was any, has been healed.
As for the Roe v Wade argument… this is part of the Dem party’s fear-mongering to get us to fall in line behind their Selected One. We’ve had a lot of years of conservative Republican rule and all through those years Roe v Wade has stood untouched… and it will continue to stand no matter who becomes president and who’s in the Supreme Court. Some of the greatest advances in women’s and gay rights have happened with Republicans in power (including the gay marriage ruling in CA by a Republican-majority CA Supreme Court and a Rep governor).
McCain is a maverick and has been called a ‘centrist’, ‘moderate’ and even a ‘liberal Republican’. He has to appear a little more to ‘the Right’ now in order to win over more people in the conservative right, which is essential for any Republican to be able to win. Once in power, he probably will be a lot more centrist and moderate than most Republicans we’ve had. I believe he’s our best choice (unless by some “miracle” Hillary is nominated in Aug.) and things will, I’m sure, be OK with him until Hillary can run again in 4 years and win (we’ll make sure that happens!)
thanks for everyones response to my post. I am just grateful to all of you for all that you are doing. I feel so inadequate when it comes to what to do with my insight and concerns because I am so knew to politics, so I thought if I posted it here, someone may know how to demand an investigation…I really think this could be the facts that could cause the “great implosion we are praying for” lol..off the check out that link, thanks for all of you and all that you are able to accomplish.
Not watching tv news is what I call going into my Zen mode. I actually did it for 5 straight days, then I had to watch the unity event and get my blood pressure up all over again. But reading here is a great way to get news, so I don’t have to watch tv. Thanks for all the great links and postings to help us keep on top of what is going on out there.
Thanks Firebelle Puma
Re: 499 Good idea do any one have the email address to get a good message to Predident Bill Clinton and thank him for all he had done for this country? And all he has done for Hillary , we love him and thank him also !!!!
#507 luckytlc
Some earlier posts today have addresses and email address for Bill.
Ok thankyou BigCatLover
#507 luckytlc
I felt so fortunate that I had the opportunity to shake hands with Bill when he was campaigning for Hillary. I felt that he was a terrific president. When you find an address pass it on because I would like it also. He needs to be thanked.
#504 Margaret
Please don’t ever feel inadequate. Few of us here have a solid understanding of politics. We all have too many demands on our time to keep up with everything there is to know. But we’re all entitled to our votes, as well as to our feelings about the issues. Beyond that, this is a great site to exchange information and help each other understand the different aspects of politics.
I apologize that I did not read your earlier post. I merely skimmed it and moved on. I’m guilty of spending so much time on this blog that I’m not taking care of my own business. So sometimes I have to simply focus on the things I’m most passionate about and let other people address the rest.
I am offsite right now tending to an emergency – but just had to post what one of my EX friends from Chicago sent me to sign they received from MoveonOrg getting petitions against Fox because they hurt no name – reason for my posting other than to advise that Fox is one of the good guys – maybe we could have something as such about CNN or MSNBC – they have just a logo that you click on and instantly you become one of their “100,000″ OR MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS OUR THANKS TO FOX FOR THEIR HONEST ATTEMPT DURING THE LATTER PART OF THE PRIMARIES.
Dear MoveOn member,
Right now, FOX is trying to paint Barack Obama as foreign, un-American, suspicious, and scary. They’re trying to send Americans the message that our country’s first viable black candidate for President is not “one of us.”
We’ve seen this before from FOX. They won’t stop until it becomes too painful to continue—until the public calls them out and advertisers start getting worried.
Now is the time to draw a line in the sand by putting FOX on notice that their behavior won’t be tolerated. Nearly 100,000 Americans have already expressed their outrage. Can you express yours by adding your name to this message?
“FOX must stop injecting racism, prejudice, and fear into our political dialogue. We intend to hold FOX, its advertisers, and its personalities accountable for FOX’s attempts to smear the Obamas.”
Clicking here will sign the petition: NOTE DELETED the actual http – not going to help them out -
//pol.moveon.org/stopthesmears
FOX’s longtime pattern of smearing Obama and the black community is well documented.1 But the outrageous moments have increased in the last month.
First, a paid FOX commentator accidentally confused “Obama” with “Osama” and then joked on the air about killing Obama.2 Next, a FOX anchor said a playful fist bump by Barack and Michelle Obama could be a “terrorist fist jab.”3 And then, FOX called Michelle Obama “Obama’s baby mama”—slang for an unmarried mother of a man’s child, and a clear attempt to associate the Obamas with negative stereotypes about black people.4
If you know others who’d find FOX’s recent actions despicable, please ask them to sign the petition too. The more people who sign, the bigger our impact will be.
Our friends at ColorOfChange.org—an online advocacy group focused on the issues of importance to the black community—are leading this charge. They have already collected nearly 100,000 names to deliver as a group to FOX’s headquarters (in front of other media cameras, so FOX feels more heat). Here’s how they describe the situation:
After each of the incidents mentioned [above], FOX issued some form of weak apology. But what does it mean when you slap someone in the face, apologize the next day, then slap them again? It means the apology is meaningless.
Now is the time to call out FOX for these attacks and their fake apologies. The first stop is FOX. Next will be their advertisers and the FCC. If we don’t push back now, we will see more of the same from now until November. Please join us to demand that FOX answer for its behavior:
Add your name to this important cause by clicking here—then tell your friends:
pol.moveon.org/stopthesmears
Thanks for all you do
#507 luckytlc
You might try contacting Bill Clinton through his foundation (http://www.clintonfoundation.org/contact-us.htm).
Another option might be to mail him something in care of Hillary’s campaign office. Check HillaryClinton.com for the contact information.
#512 Goalucard4Hill
Why would we want to do that, Obama and his bunch have used the race card from day 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
LUCKYTLE
Yes, if you find Bill Clinton’s address do pass it on here. I would like to write too. He came thru here while campaigning for Hillary. It was like on a Friday. And I just found out the night before. I read it in the paper, but they didn’t know when and where. But later that night, Hillary’s campaign called and gave me all the information. I was so glad I got to go. My mom and I both went. And we both got to shake his hand and he signed our papers. My mom wished she had thought about bring his book. He would of signed that too.
BARBARA4HILL
hope you are getting better!
Hillaryistheone – I AM NOT saying WE SHOULD sign the petition obviously – we like Fox – I am saying that maybe we should have a petition just like that for CNN and MSNBC – its pretty obvious that our one on one as I have been doing to CNN and MSNBC has not mattered at all – and my one one one to their advertisers has not mattered – but if we as a group (sent the above JUST as an example) did this – it could make a difference in the future -
Just a thought -
#462 Headoverhills
8 years as veep under Hillary, then another 8 as president
Bluesgal-Look at post #378 for Bill Clinton’s address
This should make some of you feel better. I was 20 feet from the podium and 2 feet from secret service when I said “get your hands off her”.
#519 – You gojoy – good for you – wish THAT had been on camera. LOL
#512 Goalucard4Hill
Thanks for your post. I just posted the message below at Moveon.org. I’d have written more, but a friend just showed up, and I have to go.
*****
A fellow PUMA PAC member posted something about your petition to stop the FOX network from airing information about how wrong Barack Obama would be for our country.
I congratulate the FOX network for this badly needed public service.
When I saw Barack Obama for the first time, I was suitably impressed. I might have considered voting for him if Hillary asked us to. But not anymore.
I cannot in good conscience vote for a man of such bad character that he would spend 20 years embracing the hateful, poisonous teachings of Reverend Wright. Nor can I vote for a man who is so dismissive of everyone and everything that doesn’t serve his immediate needs.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that Barack Obama is not a man of his word. That’s clearly demonstrated in his refusal to agree to the weekly town hall meetings John McCain has been asking for. After all, how many times during the primary season did Obama say, “I welcome that debate with John McCain”? Oh yeah? So why won’t he debate?
And how many times has he insisted that he can reach across party lines? So why isn’t he reaching across his campaign platform to talk with John McCain?
Obama is full of lies. He can’t be trusted. McCain is a far better choice.
I don’t know if this has been posted, but it’s another video that documents the way Hillary was treated by the media. Warning, it made me break down into tears to watch all this stuff again. You may not want to view it if you easily get emotional.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXfKW4Xx4Gs&feature=email
#515 bluesgal
I am starting to feel human again…….LOL Thanks
I found out that Bill was coming the night before and my husband and I were told to come and wear our Hillary shirts ( we campaigned for Hillary ) and I managed to get some close up photos of Bill. I was so excited as my sister who lives in Martha’s Vineyard also had the opportunity to see Bill and shake hands with him but she forgot her camera. I kept the newspaper with Bills apperance in town and it is so neat because it is so similar to the pictures I took of him bending over the railing to shake hands. Bill made 8 appearences across North Carolina that day and this was his first stop and he made a point to shake hands with everyone that was there that wanted to shake hands. Not just a speech then run off to the next place so I was totally impressed but then again I think he is one of the best Presidents we have had.
hey NYC Pumas! !
i was out yesterday on the Upper East Side and noticed quite a few women wearing black. but being NY, black is pretty common wardrobe choice, so it’s hard to tell…
i was excited and kept telling my husband “LOOK! a puma! LOOK! a puma!” in my short walk to the bus stop, i saw at least three instances of two ladies walking together BOTH WEARING BLACK! that’s more than coincidence……that’s a stance against nObama !!!!
Texassherry
Thank you very much!!!!!!!!
#483 Sarapuma. I saw your message to antifish. I think we do have a classy group, especially compared to any of nonname’s groups. I also think that some of us need to vent at times. The nicknames we have given some of these people came from months ago and for some of us, it is our way to vent without truly saying the things we want to say. I feel we all contribute in positive ways and don’t think any of us step out of reasonable bounds (maybe a troll who sneaks through). If Murphy has set up some guidelines on what we can and can’t say on this site, I am happy to abide but don’t recall having seeing any.
This isn’t a shot at you or anyone else, quite the contrary, if clarification is needed, i hope Murphy would post that.
Thank you for your thoughfulness and looking out for fellow PUMAS!
diva2
Thank you Firebelle Puma for understanding what I was trying to say – good post – I too sent an email to them saying almost the same thing as you – except for the part of ever even considering voting for no name – its this organization that has created such a stir for him and still continues to do so – I still believe that Hillary will come out of this as the nominee for us and want to stop those organizations that have gone the other direction as much as I can.
Thanks again – now back to my other task – but could not stay away from puma this long without checking in somewhere – HELLO to MAC, Shorttermer, and Andersen, and Lizzy In Ct and Minivee – will be back in a couple of weeks and be in touch.
Drac
#13 dmrr
Sorry that I haven’t been on a lot yesterday and today. My family is in town, and they are only here for a few days. Sorry guys. I’ll check in late tonight.
I read an article on UK Telegraph website from the link downstairs. WOW! I COULD NEVER IMAGINE that a former President the highest staus in the land and probably even in the world could say those words, but we are all humans. I forgot that for a second. Terry McAuliffe–Hillary’s campaign manager said the same thing right after the polls closed in South Dakota and Montana on Jon Stewart Daily Show. I was just blown away at that moment.
Anyhow, I am desperate and I wanted to ask you again to
PLEASE SIGN UP ON http://www.18millionvoices.blogspot.com/
TO HOLD STATE MEETINGS. WE NEED TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE DON’T FEEL DISCOURAGED JUST YET. WE CAN DO IT. WE ARE PUMAS. LIONS ARE FIGHTERS. PLEASE SIGN UP.
Thank you
William J. Clinton Foundation:
http://www.clintonfoundation.org/index.htm
Mailing address
New York Office:
William J. Clinton Foundation
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New York, NY 10027
Boston Office:
383 Dorchester Avenue, Suite 400
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Clinton Presidential Center & Foundation Offices in Little Rock:
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I have to take a rest. I was going to try and catch up on the posts from yesterday and today but I think I will do that later.
All of you take care and I’ll “see” you later.
I do need to email CNN first. UGH !!!!!
#516 Goalucard4Hill
Sorry, I misunderstood!
Just received this from clintondems.com:
“JULY 4TH ACTION
Declaration Of Independence
Contribute $20.08 to Hillary Clinton’s campaign at http://www.hillaryclinton.com on July 4 to retire her debt and show your independence from the Democratic Party line.
Together, we can send a strong message that the party’s nominee is not ours and that we will not unite behind it when it does not represent us, puts politics above the popular vote, and condones sexism and voting irregularities, to elect the chosen candidate of party officials.
Contributions made through the website will go to her retire Hillary’s debt …it has been confirmed that it can not, by law, go to Obama or the DNC.
This action item is a coordinated effort of the member organizations of the Just Say No Deal Coalition, including ClintonDems.com.”
#520 josgirl
Thanks for posting those addresses.
#503 Violet Hill,
I agree with you about the poster who was bashing McCain. I’ve addressed it with Murphy.
Re: 519 Thankyou that makes me feel a whole lot better
LOl
thankyou Texassherry for address post and number 378
for President Clinton
#523 Barabra4Hill
Oh, I am so glad you had a good time when Bill come thru. I know how you feel. It was really awsome. I haven’t ever shook a President or former President’s hand. I also took my camera too. You are right, he is one of the best Presidents we have ever had.
An older woman passed out out in the crowd. And Bill threw his water bottle out to the security people. They helped her out of the crowd. I don’t know why she passed out. There was just a lot of people around, you couldn’t hardly see everything. I guess she got alright.
bluesgal-you are very welcome.
#512 Goalucard,
I can’t believe MoveOn is making a bif deal about a FOX reporter calling Obama, Osama. Teddy Kennedy did it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APx2YJ-_jos
Puma Alert!
This weekend’s Daily Growl is now posted in the PP Action Center at:
http://pumapacusa.org/growls/growls.html
Great work again Maryland Puma!
#532 pa4hill Sounds great! Will do.
barbara4hill Take care I think I heard you recently had surgery. Save your strength, we are going to need as the days and weeks march on!!
#513 Firebelle,
We had posted Bill Clinton contact info earlier today upthread.
MURPHY…
On the DNC website BLOG Kicking Ass, someone just posted a link to a website that said you donated money to John McCain in 2000 and they are calling you a fraud…
HELP!!!!
It is 6:50pm in Texas…
GO PUMA POWER!!
#529 Josgirl
Thanks for all those addresses!!!!!
No problem – HillaryistheOne – we are all in it together and HILLARYISTHEONE.
Later
#526 Diva,
Thanks. My feelings were hurt but I wasn’t going to say anything. But I will now. BRAZILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lucktlc-you are welcome. Someone else has posted the address after I did.
#542 jenniforhillary on 06.28.08 at 7:50 pm
DailyKos said the same after Murphy’s interview. I told them is that was the best they had to discredit the founder of this group, it wasn’t going to hold much koolaid, if any. I am from Texas, too.
is=if, second sentence revise.
#435 Maxgrader Awesome!! Funny how things look in a different perspective. That is sooo true, it does all add up.
We can defiinitely use motivational messages. Maybe you could do one a week or every few days. NO pressure. But any good thoughts are always welcome.
GOOOOOOPUMAS!!!!
#542 jennifor hillary,
We’ve already beat that dead horse. Murphy gave to McCain in 2000 to help defeat Bush. Tell whoever is calling her a fraud to Google her name and Huffington Post. They’ll see who she gave to this year.
Murphy – I heard that Rendell has organized some HOUNDs. I hope they are more interesting than the Obamabots, who generally employ name calling and insults to make their point. This PUMA needs some real prey she can sink her teeth into. Can you find us some of these HOUNDs?
To All Pumas-Could someone with good writing skills make up a letter of gratitude for Bill Clinton that we could copy and send? I am good at technical writing and poetic writing but not the best at political writing.
Antifish-I have one of those Clinton dollars that they sold back during the Clinton years that I have been wanting to send to the Obama campaign as a donation but have not received anything through the snail mail to insert it into. Maybe I could scan it on the computer and if anyone wanted to make print copies of it they could. What do you think?
#542 jenniferforhillary
Murphy has addressed this.
Please see posts #166 and #168 on this page.
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/06/24/its-going-to-take-more-than-a-band-aid-to-fix-the-democratic-party/
#551~ I skimmed over a couple of the posts upthread regarding HOUNDS/Rendell. So this is legit? What is the rationale? HOUNDS tracking for Unity?
#552 texassherry,
Good evening! I think thats a great idea.
Also have you seen our Puma Bucks at the action center? They have Hillary’s face on them and you can print a whole sheet. I’ve been sending them in all the solicitations I’ve received from the DNC, DSCC and the DCCC. I love using all their pre-paid envelopes. Helps deplete their resources.
#522 antifish on 06.28.08 at 7:32 pm
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No tears here! Strengthened my resolve to not ever let this carp happen again, that’s for sure.
Here’s his Hound page, when I saw him talk about it. I thougt is was a joke! But I guess he meant it.
http://www.padems.com/form/hound
#284marylandpuma-you asked about the symbolism of color for the wrist bands. I found this link: http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/color2.htm
Antifish-Good Evening back at you!
I haven’t seen those yet but the one I have is the one that they sold with Bill Clinton on the front of it. I sold all the rest of the ones I had on Ebay but I kept one for myself.
#557Hillfan4McCain~ Thanks for the link. The picture of Barack is great. It just makes you believe in the whole concept. It glows of “unity.” Thanks again!
Jeremy,
You can go to riverdaughter’s site and read a wonderful rebuttal to Rendell.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/saturday-ed-youre-making-this-too-easy/
You saw last post at noquarterusa ?
Countrywide Owns Obama $22,900
Note that this chart covers money received since 1989 and Mr. Obama has only been in the Congress since 2004. What a money grubbing hypocrite. Obama has raked it in faster than any member of Congress. And, surprise of all surprises, Barack joined Senator Chris Dodd in co-sponsoring a housing relief bill that encouraged lenders to refinance and stabilize existing mortgages. Of course, said lenders make money off of the refinancing loans.
Maybe Barack can do for American homeowners what he has done for the poor folks living in squalid apartment buildings in Chicago.
#119 where did you get the wristband? Or did you make it?
#556 PA4Hill,
I’m glad it strengthened you. I found it draining to watch the clips of her. The one from NH always gets me. I despise anyone who questions her authenticity.
#559 texassherry,
I can’t say that I ever saw one of those, but by all means, make copies and send them out. I think it’s a great idea.
Well, I thought the last 2 days were going to be very depressing for me as I am A FOX news watcher everyday and wasn’t looking forward to seeing the Unity thing. I had a wonderful surprise. My daughter called about 4 AM yesterday and she was going into labor. I and my husband drove for 2 hours to the hospital and watched her deliver a baby girl at 1:20 in the afternoon. We are overjoyed. Thanks to my new grandaughter I missed FOX news for the last 2 days.
ALERT: PUMAs we are in a lot of trouble. Please sign up on this website to indicate how many of us are out there. Thank you.
http://www.hillaryclintonsupportteam.com/Join_Us.html
need verification stating what the problem is before clicking on this link.
#562 will13smith,
His hypocrisy knows no bounds! He’s so dirty and yet, so many people are caught up in his “movement”. I often feel like we are the resistance movement against an evil takeover of our country.
Congrats Pooh 496
#566 pooh496
CONGRATULATIONS!!! That’s wonderful news! I feel so happy for you!
#567 anonymous,
What are you talking about? Why are we in trouble?
Caught an earlier post from josgirl and the link to Dean’s Democracy for America. Spent a good deal of time there to get a good feel for who is behind Obama’s meteoric rise. The 50 state plan referred to earlier began the day after the election on 2004 – to put “progressive” candidates who “fight for real change” (sound familiar??)
in at every level of govt. Who gets to pick who the “progressive” candidates are? Howard Dean. There is even a petition to bind superdelegates to support the presidential candidate with the most “popularly allocated delegates” In other words, the caucus outcome, not the popular vote. I guess the American people didn’t get that memo. We still foolishly thought it was “one person – one vote”. Silly PUMA’s!
I thought this quote from their website might provoke some discussion:
Excerpt from November 3, 2004:
‘Tens of millions of us are disappointed today because we put so much of ourselves into this election. We donated money, we talked to friends, we knocked on doors. We invested ourselves in the political process.
That process does not end today. These are not short-term investments. We will only create lasting change if that sense of obligation and responsibility becomes a permanent part of our lives.
Martin Luther King, Jr. said, “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.”
We will not be silent. ‘
PUMA’s WILL NOT BE SILENT!
This election matters!
KEEP IT UP, PUMA’s!
#567 – would like to hear it from Murphy.
Antifish- I just looked at the fake dollars at the action site. Those are much more appropriate than mine.
#503 Violet, if it was my post last night you refer to, thanks for acknowledging my right to do so. I am a Hillary Democrat who came here to join like-minded HRC supporters in protest of the DNC’s action. Protesting the DNC does not compel me to support the Republican candidate. I have supported HRC since before Bill became President. I defended and supported her while she was mercilessly criticized by Republicans in the early 1990s – and believe me, she was villified by the Republican party for everything from her cookies to accusations of MURDER – both before the election in 1990, and throughout her stint as First Lady. This site has welcomed people from different backgrounds and with different goals. From Hillary Democrats, to Hillary Republicans and any “Hillary” supporter in between. Murphy has embraced and welcomed folks who have torn up their voter registration card and become Independent or Republican, as well as those who have held onto their Democratic status and are actively considering writing in Hillary or even those who refuse to vote for either McCain or BO. In the interest of full disclosure, I am one of those who has never made any secret of the fact that I have no intention of switching parties. I believe strongly in the Democratic platform and I believe I can be more effective at changing the party rules by becoming more involved and active within the party apparatus. I work for the Senate, not for the DNC or for the party, but I can see how much effective I be in facilitating change within the party by working through the party. But that’s just me. Criticizing the words John McCain used as justification for my personal choice does not bar me from the PUMA process. There are plenty of good PUMAs who cannot, in good conscience, vote for McCain… even as a protest vote. I am a Democrat, not a Republican for Hillary. I am fiercly loyal to Hillary and an activist Democrat. When Hillary says “nobody speaks for me but me” I don’t second guess her. I KNOW for a fact that she is smart, strong,capable and NEVER a push-over. Yesterday I had the distinct impression she was speaking directly to us, as PUMAs, when she said “If you are not going to vote, or are going to vote for John McCain, I strongly urge you to reconsider.” So you see, I am not encouraging you or anyone else to vote for BO – I am simply LISTENING to what she said yesterday and taking her words to heart. That doesn’t mean I will ever vote for BO. It simply means that I have taken her words to heart and will reconsider MY decision not to vote. I was never going to vote for McCain – I’m too committed to the Democratic party and its principals and platform to cast even a protest vote for a platform that doesn’t view women as equals. I’m too committed to my two sons to ever cast my vote (even in protest) for a party that is committed to the war in Iraq and possibly one in Iran. I am too committed to my parents to vote for someone who may not protect social security or provide for their health needs. I am too committed to Democratic principals to cast (even in protest) a vote for someone who has consistently expressed the desire to have Roe v Wade overturned. I don’t buy into the folly of “aw, it can’t happen, it’s been around too long and survived too many Republican presidents.” Have you seen the way the court has ruled lately? One vote is all it will take my friends. But most of all, I am too committed to my daughter to vote for anyone – man, woman or big cat — who disparages women, who insulted my hero’s daughter, who joked about wife beating, and who used the C word to describe his own wife. I still haven’t forgiven Barbara Bush for referring to Geraldine Ferrarro in in 1984 as a “rhymes with witch.” Words matter, and the use of those particular words are biggies for me – they may not be for you, or even for Hillary, but those words cut deep through my core as a woman, a feminist, and as a mother. Others may attribute it to his age or generation, I simply cannot, in good conscience support or defend ANYONE who uses those words about the woman I believe should be POTUS. I understand and respect your difference of opinion. There were many, many thoughtful, sincere and measured differences of opinion on the matter. I don’t begrudge anyone their choice of McCain. I kinda like the man too (any friend of Jon Stewart is a friend of mine, lol). But his niceness and patriotism does not DEMAND that I cast a vote for him. I came here to register my disgust with the DNC and protest their treatment of HRC — not to cast my vote for whomever happens to be running against BO. The buck stops with the “C” word for me. I have never missed an election – special, primary or general since 1978. I WILL vote, that’s for sure. Hillary’s words resonated in my heart and I will reconsider my decision NOT to vote. I still don’t know what I will do with that, I’m only new to the reconsideration part.
#566 pooh,
That’s wonderful news! Congratulations to you and your family!
If I already posted this link above, then I apologize for reposting it. Please read it.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0627wycliffjun27,0,6154900.story
Maybe Barack can do for American homeowners what he has done for the poor folks living in squalid apartment buildings in Chicago.
Will13smith, check out the link on #453 regarding Barack’s work.
#561, thanks Antifish.
#572 antifish
This website only shows 16 people around the country who support Hillary. They are trying to organize by state to see how many people support Hillary, and so far they are only showing 16. I know that there’s a lot of us here. They want to put together like a directory of where everybody is.
#517 Tree, DOH! I’m embarrassed that I didn’t catch that. oopsie. thanks!
#561 antifish:
Thanks for the riverdaughter link. I hadn’t read Rendell’s excuse for drinking the kool-aid. But that was truly a wonderful rebuttal and expressed exactly my own thoughts and feelings.
#535 You can laugh but while everyone else is in Denver I’ll probably be languishing in GITMO!
Thanks Goalucard4Hill, antfish and anon.
I am a happy grandma and she’s a beauty!!!!!
antifish and PUMAs:
I am always panicking. It’s my nature. Sorry about that. I just can’t help it.
Today’s accomplishments:
1) Donated to Ed O’Reilly’s campagin to kick Kerry out of office,
2) Directed three people new to P.U.M.A. to the website,
3) Wrote Congressman Kucinich urging him to:
a) not endorse Obama (see TheHill.com Joey
Michalales article) and
b) when he and Nobama have their talk, urge Obama
to commit to an Open and Transparent Denver
Convention and to commit to participating in
Town Hall meetings with John McCain prior to the
Denver Convention up to the November election.
Tomorrow’s Tasks:
1) Send letters to Rep. Hilda Solis, Rep. Ed Pastor, and
Rep. Gene Taylor (see TheHill.com article) urging
them per above.
2) Send a little note to Gov. Rendell telling what I think
of his HOUND (is this a howl for help … has the fight
been enjoined … isn’t the next step We Win …)
3) Send The Honorable William J. Clinton a note
supporting him on his Nobama comments and urging
him to stir things up and come and visit us.
On another note, #266 MissyD77, I will keep you and your friends in my thoughts and prayers.
Good night, Pumas!
Congrats pooh #566.
Did anyone else notice that on the “Unity” email from Hillary that she is still using her “Hillary for President” letterhead?
Hmmmmmmmmm…
FOR OUTREACH BEYOND THE INTERNET
here’s a link about PUMA radio:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/ — pro-Hillary, anti-Obama talk radio!
And I think Corbett’s radio show is still doing “Operation Turndown”.
Bluesgal, you have mail
#581 anonymous,
We should not be signing up at sites without knowing who’s behind them. We are just fine here. If Murphy wants us to sign up somewhere, she’ll let us know. I say stay away.
#586 Anonymous- I agree that you should let Murphy look at it before anyone signs it. You never know it could be from the Obama camp trying to get information to help them.
Antifish- There you go again. Great minds you know.
#581 anonymous on 06.28.08 at 8:29 pm
Maybe you should change your blog name. With a name of “anonymous” could one trust you?
I feel if “one” is willing to stand for one’s right, why hide.
#192 No that won’t work. Writing in Clinton will do absolutely nothing and will help Obama win. In order to defeat Obama, we must vote for McCain.
#592 antifish
Yeah, you are right. This link was on pumaparty.com
Thanks jeremy
I just joined HOUND
Name: Kiss My Moon Pie
email: dog@comcast.com
Address: 3425 Warden Dr, Philadelphia, PA 19129
Phone: 610-459-2141
I couldn’t resist. It went through
#594 texassherry,
#581 anonymous on 06.28.08 at 8:29 pm
Anonymous, seems that I spoke too early, maybe you are on the up and up for Murphy, PUMA and Hillary.
Take care
#590~Thanks for the link. I have added it to my favorites. It shows that Will Bowers will be on June 29 at 7pm.
Unity Speech – is why are we here?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=feKBaxLjExE
Listen and compare again – She was standing all the time…
We need Clinton to be the President, yes that’s why we are here.
RE: #519
Thank-you gojoyknocks for speaking-out. I thought I was alone yelling at the T.V.
#589 diamond girl,
I didn’t get the email because I unsubscribed, but that’s an encouraging tidbit of information.
Has anybody seen SusyT?
Diamond girl, did you notice that the DFA tapped Obama as one of “Dean’s Dozen” in ’04 and campaigned for him in his Senate run?
Or did you notice that the DFA says Edwards, Biden, Richardson and Kucinich responded to them and Obama used their guidebook for training?
They didn’t even mention reaching out to Clinton.
And did you catch the part from the Republicans for Obama site that I posted upthread that claims they came into existence to encourage Barack Obama to run for president?
I don’t know what all this means, but I sure find it all interesting.
#599 LOL goanderson. I have a feeling they will be getting some memberS from Texas.
#595 William DenverCO
I am sorry, but I can’t give out my real name because it involves politics. I can change my screen name to something else, but I can’t give me real name. I am sorry about that. I hope that I can still get feedback from you guys.
All the best to you,
anonymous
596 ladyhawkke on 06.28.08 at 8:39 pm
I agree with Ladyhawkke. We must keep BO out of the White House. I was a Democrat (recently changed), but now I am an Independent willing to vote for McCain.
Maybe someone needs to start a very simple petition/list to count those who agree on:
“I am a Hillary supporter who will never vote for Obama.”
clintondems.com has a petition at
http://clintondems.com/no-vote-petition/
that ends with
“We hereby vow to affirm this right in November by rejecting Senator Barack Obama.”
but it’s still pretty wordy.
nightsky, I’m here!
Jeremy and Hillmania,
You’re very welcome!
#503 Violet Hill
Great Letter! Under no circumstances would I vote for *61 or stay home. He brings out the worse in the individuals that support him and he is unqualified to be the President for many reasons. McCain by comparison has served his country honorably and made great sacrifices for the US. If Hillary is not our nominee, I will happily vote for McCain.
Mayor 0102
I read your letters to the editors. Great job!
Firebelle PUMA
Your letters to Donna Brazile that you posted yesterday were fantastic! Do you notice how she responds to everyone’s letters as hateful? Good grief, your letter was honest, to the point, and had all the facts.
pooh 496, you are welcome. Just had my youngest last March. No other feeling than than family.
#601 William DenverCO
Don’t worry about it. I am cool.
Hey Great!
#587 chicagoroadrunner,
My, you are a busy Puma! Excellent job! I’m feeling a little lazy reading all you’ve accomplished.
nightsky….ready to focus some positive energy?
#599 goandersen,
Have I told you lately that I love you?
There are some great posts on here. Please do not write in Hillary’s name. I had planned on doing that, but I was told that my vote would go to nobama.
We need to show the DNC that they can not dismiss 18 million voters. They are corrupt, and need to be taken down..
We must vote for John McCain. We know he would give his life for his Country. Nobama cares about nothing but himself. He has an ego the size of Texas.
I,too, worry about Bill’s health. After what was done to Hillary, I don’t think I could take losing the best President in my lifetime.
#245 lotts1948.. That is the song that has been going through my mind since that bogus, staged thing yesterday. No, I am not ready to make nice, and I won’t ever be.
My claws are out, and I want the DNC and the super delegates to feel their force..
WE CAN NOT FAIL….The stakes are too high..
Purrs to all.
P.S. Murphy, I will e-mail you again for an address to send you a donation..
#159 FLgayGuy4Hill
… posted this earlier, taken from Riverdaughter’s PUMA blog:
“But here is what you seem to not understand from the voters’ point of view. First, many of us are *not* planning to vote for John McCain. But if John McCain happens to win by default, we will not have a guilt trip laid on *US* for all the floods, famines and earthquakes that follow. The delegates, superdelegates and party leaders had a choice.”
I am reposting this paragraph from someone else’s blog just to reinforce a point I have made since I started blogging here the second day this site went up:
NOT ALL OF US WHO HAVE JOINED PUMA PAC ARE VOTING FOR MCCAIN!!
I know it seems that way to some of you who haven’t been around here that long, but believe me, there are many of us PUMAs who have no intention of supporting the Republican nominee. BUT — those of us who are planning to vote independent (like me), or to write in Hillary, or to stay home are making the choice NOT to support Obama if he should be the Democratic nominee. That is our choice. Some may vote for McCain. That is THEIR choice.
Don’t think you cannot post your thoughts here if you are a PUMA, but you are not a McCain supporter. There are MANY opinions here. People may say “the only way to make sure Obama loses is to vote Republican”, but I disagree, and that is my choice. I will vote “independent”, and that is my vote against Obama.
NYCgirl
I got a letter from McCain today asking for money. I would like to help him, but every extra cent I have has to go to Hillary right now. The letter was really interesting contrasting his position with Obama. I agree he is more middle of the road and I like that. He is a far cry from Bush. I may try to send $5. At least its something.
#619 antifish
Why, no you haven’t come to think of it.
SusyT I am ready!
#601 WilliamDenver,
Anonymous is one of our most loyal Pumas.
nightsky 1 2 3 go..
#623 goandersen,
Well I do! Where can I sign up for HOUND? Do you have a link?
Hope you all don’t mind, for Hillary;
Don’t Quit
Author Unknown
When things go wrong, as they sometimes will,
When the road your trudging seems all uphill,
When the funds are low and the debts are high,
And you want to smile, but you have to sigh,
When care is pressing you down a bit
Rest if you must, but don’t you quit.
Life is queer with its twists and its turns,
As everyone of us sometimes learns,
And many a failure turns about
When they might have won, had they stuck it out.
Don’t give up though the pace seems slow,
You may succeed with another blow.
Often the struggler has given up
When (she)he might have captured the victors cup;
And (she)he learned too late when the night came down,
How close (she)he was to the golden crown.
Success is failure turned inside out
The silver tint of the clouds of doubt
And you never can tell how close you are,
It may be near when it seems so far;
So stick to the fight when your hardest hit,
It’s when things seem worst that you must not quit!
Been away for a few hours and found I’ve missed a LOT!
#333 I can’t see another effective alternative as long as BO is on the ticket. I know casting a vote for McCain seems all wrong, but as it’s already been said, write-in’s won’t work in all states and would be a very risky LONG shot at best. I can’t imagine wasting the one vote I have by skipping that race. It’s not so much an endorsement as a strategy, right?
#622 Nightsky~order some of his McCain Gear. I ordered stickers and wearing the baseball cap now. His logo is cool with the gold star and all. Not telling you what to do, but use that $5 for some visibility.
Made a big mistake and tivo’d Chris Matthew’s Friday show to see what he would say about the Unity event. I haven’t watched him in a long time and I couldn’t believe how hypocritical he sounded. After trashing Hillary during the whole primary he now can’t say enough good things about her. Does he think we’re stupid? He knows there are a lot of his old viewers out there that are disgusted with him and he’s trying to win them back. It just made me sick enough to get back to my resolve to not watch him again.
#606 josgirl,
Don’t mean to intrude in your conversation, but it sounds like you’re onto something. I’ve believed for a long time now that this entire primary was a pre-planned plot to install Obama as the nominee. Now, they will go to any length to get him into office. I feel a very contentious election coming on.
#608 anonymous ,
I like to interject here: I am wondering why in most of your posts you interject with a negative spin when the posts are flowing positively; it seems you are trying to infuse reverse psychology. This is not the first time you made statements like this. Sometimes you provide informative links, but one in a while you have done this–I am a bit confuse about your stance that is all. Thanks!
#627 antifish
http://www.padems.com/form/hound
LOL! have fun!
I googled PA white pages for address and changed phone a little.
#632 antifish
The day the “unity pony” stood up with the media on C-span, Howie said right there ” we have been planning this for 3 years”. That would be since 2004-5
The most disturbing thing I read on this blog today was the posts concerning the petition to censure FOX news.
This is nothing less than suppression of freedom of speech.
I have cried out many times before that BO’s political machine is already taking away our rights.
It is only going to get worse.
I hope that this movement is successful. Otherwise I think we are all in trouble.
GO PUMAs.
#628 bythelake,
That’s beautiful and so inspirational. I hope Hillary looks in on us tonight and gets to read it.
SusyT OMG my fingers are absolutely tingling.
#631 Hillmania,
I feel the same way about Chris Matthews. I was once a huge fan, but he lost me during the primary. He’ll never get me back.
nightsky,
same here. light anchored. energy flowing in, negatives bouncing off, becoming LOVE
antifish, there’s no private conversation here on my part.
I’m just posting things I’ve collected that have been bugging me for all to consider.
There are another coupla links I have along these lines that might be interesting too.
I’ll look for them and try to post.
I’d like the link to HOUND also
if anyone has it. Also does anyone have the link to Bill Clinton’s remarks that are mentioned upthread somewhere? I’d like to read them, especially if Bill spoke his mind. I hope to all heavens he doesn’t come out campaigning for BO. That, I don’t think I could take. It’s bad enough seeing Hillary with BO. Cannot stand to see that! I just can’t help feel it’s time for someone to stage an interventiona and GET HER AWAY FROM THAT MONSTER! 
Rescue her from that nightmare!
Thanks Jeremy I will do that. Makes a lot of sense. I was out shopping earlier today and a gift shop had a stuffed donkey I almost bought it to send to the DNC (would have cost a fortune, it was about 3′ high) , but I decided the money would be better spent sent to Hillary.
Suggestion: We need to make a file and start collecting thoughts/theories like #606 josgirl, Margaret’s post, and will13smith’s post regarding Barack’s involvement with mortgage lenders, etc. These are all credible hypotheticals and for me, I don’t want see them lost. With permission from the above posters, I hope that is o.k.
I keep seeing Hillary’s smiling face.
Countrywide Owns Obama
By Larry JohnsoncloseAuthor: Larry Johnson Name: Larry Johnson
Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net
Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net
About: Larry C. Johnson is CEO and co-founder of BERG Associates, LLC, an international business-consulting firm with expertise combating terrorism and investigating money laundering. Mr. Johnson works with US military commands in scripting terrorism exercises, briefs on terrorist trends, and conducts undercover investigations on counterfeiting, smuggling and money laundering. Mr. Johnson, who worked previously with the Central Intelligence Agency and U.S. State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism, is a recognized expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, crisis and risk management. Mr. Johnson has analyzed terrorist incidents for a variety of media including the Jim Lehrer News Hour, National Public Radio, ABC’s Nightline, NBC’s Today Show, the New York Times, CNN, Fox News, and the BBC. Mr. Johnson has authored several articles for publications, including Security Management Magazine, the New York Times, and The Los Angeles Times. He has lectured on terrorism and aviation security around the world, including the Center for Research and Strategic Studies at the Ecole Polytechnique in Paris, France. He represented the U.S. Government at the July 1996 OSCE Terrorism Conference in Vienna, Austria. From 1989 until October 1993, Larry Johnson served as a Deputy Director in the U.S. State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism. He managed crisis response operations for terrorist incidents throughout the world and he helped organize and direct the US Government’s debriefing of US citizens held in Kuwait and Iraq, which provided vital intelligence on Iraqi operations following the 1990 invasion of Kuwait. Mr. Johnson also participated in the investigation of the terrorist bombing of Pan Am 103. Under Mr. Johnson’s leadership the U.S. airlines and pilots agreed to match the US Government’s two million-dollar reward. From 1985 through September 1989 Mr. Johnson worked for the Central Intelligence Agency. During his distinguished career, he received training in paramilitary operations, worked in the Directorate of Operations, served in the CIA’s Operation’s Center, and established himself as a prolific analyst in the Directorate of Intelligence. In his final year with the CIA he received two Exceptional Performance Awards. Mr. Johnson is a member of the American Society for Industrial Security. He taught at The American University’s School of International Service (1979-1983) while working on a Ph.D. in political science. He has a M.S. degree in Community Development from the University of Missouri (1978), where he also received his B.S. degree in Sociology, graduating Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa in 1976.See Authors Posts (683) on June 28, 2008 at 6:37 PM in Current Affairs
This is the kind of “new” politician Barack Obama represents–he has collected more money from Countrywide Financial in the last four years than any other member of Congress and, in exchange, sponsored legislation favorable to Countrywide. Got that?
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/28/countrywide-owns-obama/#comments
#192 Henerietta
Please be careful with write ins everyone! In many states, the rules state (No pun intended) that if the person you are writing in has not followed the proper procedure and procured the necessary paperwork, the vote could go toward Obama. (Sorry PUMAs I forget exactly where I saw this and don’t know exactly how the vote would be given to him but I do recall seeing it somewhere). Please be VERY careful with write in votes!
#642 Brooklyn
Hound sign up site.
http://www.padems.com/form/hound
you can see mine @ #599
nightsky…that’s a terrific image!
I sent some money to her Thursday and will send more after I get my PUMA money taken care of. Then McCain.
Please consider donating to Cindy who’s running against Nancy. here’s that link: http://www.cindyforcongress.org/
only if you want to —-
the way to get her away from that beast is to pay down her debt
why is this red?
I just joined HOUND too!
Hillary Obama United Not Divided
Fill out this simple form and join Hillary Obama United Not Divided. Show the nation that Pennsylvania Democrats are joining Governor Rendell and Senator Clinton in supporting the next President of the United States, Barack Obama.
Name: Deputy Dawg
Email Address: ddog@hotmail.com
Phone Number: 345-678-9100
County: Pound
Address 1: 2 Much Bull St.
Address 2:
City: Dogpatch
Zip Code: 51897
pls forgive me my post #646
i thought i was pasting only 3 lines —i did not realize-i had copied the whole page from his website
S-O-R-R-Y-
Did anyone catch Stephanie Miller (radio host) on CNN today ?…She said she really doesn’t know where the sexism was in the primary…I’m certain she has a web site…maybe we need to show her….
#651 antifish
You go girl!! LMAO!
antifish
you are funny
never ever will i cast a vote for that empty suit
#651 antifish
he he he. I love starting stuff, don’t you?
faye4hill gladly. A republican senator asked Pelosi for an investigation into the senators involved in the Countrywide bailout (our tax dollars at work?!?!?!) because many received very low rate mortgages (Dodd being the biggest with two 4.5% mortages). She said she wasn’t sure there would be time in this session . Yet we can worry about baseball players and steriods. Give me a break. I had great hopes for her and she is from Maryland. What a great disappointment.
#567 anonymous… I heard that site link was a troll link for gathering PUMA emails?
#651 antifish on 06.28.08 at 9:11 pm I just joined HOUND too!
LOL—Can i post it on pro-hill blogs
#644 Jeremy,
I agree. We have a lot of great investigative surfers who are finding a lot of dirt on BO. We need to start collecting it in files at the action center. Is Maryland around?
#651 antifish on 06.28.08 at 9:11 pm
—————————
LOL!!
656 nightsky
thx
may be we can blog in that area,s newspapers ,,,
or do something ??
I met Cindy when I worked the Boots display several years ago. She seems very nice and I think got a bum deal in the press. Surprise, surprise.
#658 faye4hill
post it everywhere! LOL!
http://www.padems.com/form/hound
#647 Inu,
I agree. Let’s not lose sight of the fact that the general election is about the electoral college, not the popular vote. There is no way Hillary can win a whole state by write-in vote. I’m not trying to tell anyone what to do, but you are wasting your vote by writing her in.
#606 josgirl
Good Golly Miss Molly! You expect me to go trudging through Republicans for Obama after I spent a good deal of my Saturday night reading every press release from DFA since 2004??? Just kidding
I’ll go there later tonight after I get some of this righteous indignation out of my system. I am old enough to remember when Reagan ran for office in the 80′s and the stories that I heard of how the religious right and conservative Americans overran the caucuses and pushed their agenda on the precincts. How could I have forgotten about that? And when I witnessed the bullying tactics at my own precinct caucus this March in Texas (yes – it was all that you have heard about and more – we had to call 911 to protest that people waiting in line at 7pm were not allowed to vote! ) it never connected in my mind that the caucus vote could be anything other than a true reflection of the popular vote. HA!
Keep shining the light – los cuccarachas will soon have nowhere to hide!
goandersen and antifish – you guys are too funny@! LOL. I’m having a hard time getting past that creepy pic of HRC (looking like she’s sucking on a lemon) rendell, looking a little red-faced and stressed out and BO (looking like he’s sucking on a lemon too)…..Creepy pic! Seems like they’re trying to hard. Site isn’t all that inspirational to me. What’s the point? HOUND is not a happy place.
#655 goandersen,
Yes, we do have a streak of mischief in us!
#266
Dear Melissa,
I just read your comment. I want you to know that Christina and all of her loved ones are in my thoughts and prayers. I believe that God is with you through this very difficult time.
MJE
Does anyoone know how long a post can be. After I got Hillary’s Unity email, I finally finihed my letter to her and it is really long. Wnated to post it, but afraid you guys will go nuts over the length. (I said it all)
#658 faye4hill,
By all means, post away!
#666 (ooo beastie #) Brooklyn
They are definitely scraping the bottom of the dog house with this one.
OKAY GUYS —BYE FOR NOW –
My kids r fighting –i better help before they eat each other for dinner .
thx for the laughs–
Is it posssible that the Hound site is tongue in cheek and not meant to be serious. Who knows if Ed Rendell is a practical joker? Can someone give me a link?
thx –antifish —
Murphy – Check your email. I found the crazed Obamabot who has been posting you address and insisting that you are a Republican. He has started a petition about us also
A little more digging on HOUND – more DNC/OBAMA tutorials, basically just like BO’s site. Before you know it every Democratic site on the Internet is going to have OBAMA’s face on it staring at you…..Just like BIG BROTHER – he’s EVERYWHERE! Be brave, Ed Rendell. Resist becoming another pod.
SusyT Thanks for ton ight. We will have to do this again and maybe get more to join us. Our combined energy could make a difference. I don’t know where you are on the east coast, but I’m in Towson, MD and we are having a horrendous storm now. HMMMMM?
I will go to bed tonight and dream of Hillary taking the oath of office. I just feel real good right now. I think we have a good chance of turning this bus around. As someone else said today. We have to have HOPE that the delegates will CHANGE their minds.
I donated to Puma, Hillary, and McCain this week. No I don’t have a split personality
I am not bitter but I do know right fromwrong.
The Denver Groups is selling postcards with their message for us to send out to friends, family, whomever.
http://www.zazzle.com/keeping_the_democratic_party_democ_customized_postcard-239542410659486787?CMPN=ltt2
We PUMA PAC should do something like this. Anyone know how this ‘dazzle’ stuff works?
Cindy is wonderful and not racist like Michelle
Go Pumas!
Purrs to you all
#666 Brooklyn,
No, HOUND is not a happy place because their hearts aren’t really in it. Rendell is punching his card for party unity.
#673 BigCatLover
http://www.padems.com/form/hound
#644 jeremy
I assume that Murphy collects all of this. But maybe she could use a little help with verifying links and sources and composing talking points. But alot of this really needs to be put out there by us to our friends, family, co-workers, neighbors – anyone , anyway, anywhere that we have influence.
It takes a village!
PUMA POWER!
GRRRRR!
goanderson
Thanks.
can someone put up the link to the puma stamps for the post cards?
goanderson Its on the home Puma page
#685 goandersen,
There’s a link to the stamps at the action center.
I googled RFK and when I came up with a site with RFK’s pic and a brief bio and one of his famous speeches…..beautiful stuff. Then as I scrolled down, there in the right-hand margin was a pic of BO’s less than pleasant (to be polite) face staring up at me! I was so po’d! “What’s HE doing there?” I said to myself! The guy is everywhere. You just can’t get rid of him! It’s really annoying. How dare he put his face on a page about RFK! It’s outrageous!
#669 wontbackdown
May break down into series ? – Murphy is much nicer than hill site on posting. But every post here is public available, may be one should make it more thoughtful.
Diamondgirl, didn’t mean to overload you, I just have so much stuff collected and wanted (needed) to share.
I am trying to do it piecemeal though, don’t want to scare anybody!
nightsky,
I’m in Jacksonville, Florida
Yes, lets do this again. We had storms here earlier for a couple of hours…hail and big wind!!
Take care. I’m going to watch a movie. Have a great rest of the evening.
Dear Senator Clinton:
I have received your “Unity” email. I also watched you and Barack Obama launch the Unity campaign yesterday in Unity, NH.
Per your request to your supporters, I have “seriously reconsidered not casting My Vote for John McCain”.
I deeply respect what you have stood for throughout your life of service as reflected throughout your campaign. I understand your unwavering commitment to the Democratic Party. However, it is now apparent that your life–long service as a Democrat is no more important to the Democratic Party than the only political power I have – which is My Voice and My Vote.
It is clear that selecting a candidate and trusting one’s vote, through both research on a candidate and reliance upon fair and balanced investigative media reporting, is becoming more endangered with each election. It is also clear that the will of the people is no longer guaranteed in the American Political system. As a life-long Democrat, I had the misconception that the last two elections were flawed due to the tactics that only the Republican Party would dare to use and have enough corruptive clout to prevail. I was very wrong.
Now, as a result of the campaign Barack Obama has run, and with the blessings of the powers–that–be within the Democratic leadership, even the ability to exercise my voice as a supporter or cast my vote at the polls have been set back 50 years. My support of the candidate that I simply believed was the most qualified has come at a heavy price – under threat of racial backlash, planned, willful and intentionally orchestrated chaos to create voter intimidation and fraudulent reporting of the results (in Texas). I believe it is the direct result of Obama’s political and social influences, campaign strategies and divisive tactics – and not opposition to the color of his skin, as another of his tactics have relentlessly attempted to suggest.
I am certain the incidents described occurred in other Caucus states, as well, as indicated by his dominance in the Caucus states. (He was not successful in states where the most votes were cast and in better supervised primaries, with less voter intimidation-prone environments).
Nevertheless, it is also quite clear that the Democratic Party thinks nothing of voter’s rights, unless those votes forward their own agenda. The problem is, the 18 million voters that voted like me, have absolutely no idea what that “agenda” is. Even more tragic, it is easy to surmise that a majority of Obama’s supporters do not know either. This was made all to clear by one of Obama’s college-educated supporters in a recent interview “We know we are being fooled, but we kind of like it; we just don’t want to give up the high, yet; it’s too good”.
Why are we in the dark about the Democratic Party’s agenda? Because the candidate they pre–selected never, not once, campaigned on the policies he would affect in his administration, should he be elected. The truth is he never had to define them. His selection had long been determined, his candidacy bought and paid for and the only thing left to do was to silence any opposition through use of the media and paid bloggers on the net.
You and your supporters took a merciless beating from the Obama camp. Little did we know, these were just the bruising stages; the DNC was about to take it from there. We didn’t know that they were already building your campaign’s coffin or that all the noise was from the synchronized driving in of the nails. No wonder they were demanding after every win that millions of voters needed to prepare for the wake, the DNC had already dug two graves – Florida and Michigan. It appears they had already selected which super-delegates would be pallbearers – many who had previously been your staunch supporters.
We didn’t know that the DNC Marxist march had long begun much less that the destination was already set in place. Why else would the DNC and democratic leadership ignore and refuse to condemn escalating, blatant, sexist remarks? Why else would the pro–Obama pundits be so bold as to prematurely proclaim “it’s over”, “get out”, and “Clinton will divide us and damage us”?
Could the DNC not see the race-baiting, vile, intimidating campaign Obama was running? Did they not know that Obama’s paid bloggers had waged war on Clinton bloggers and that it was the Obama camp, along with his long– term affiliations that were inciting racial tensions between voters?
Whatever happened to the DNC’s excitement for swing-state victories and core Democratic voters, who had supported the democratic party all of their lives? Whatever happened to supreme confidence in a candidate’s command of the issues, respect for the power of women’s votes, and a candidate that could withstand and overcome the most egregious attacks and keep enlarging their base in every demographic? What happened to the Democratic Party’s focus on ethics, accountability, and open government – or is that only reserved for the GOP and off-limits when it comes to Obama’s political past?
Perhaps, Obama is to the Democratic Party what Rezko was to him – a money machine for buying Political positions, whether “the people” like the character of the candidate or not. There can be no other reason for the By–laws Committee tilting its rules toward Obama and strong–arming super–delegates into prematurely exercising their convention–only authority to close out an August convention in June.
Senator Clinton, with all due respect, surely to God you do not really expect me to give up the one thing that I have left with regards to my vote? That is, the ability to remind the DNC that my voice, my vote said “No, I choose to not cast my vote for Barack Obama!”.
You are apparently a woman of your word (in keeping your campaign promise to support him if he won the “nomination”). You have your reasons. Your supporters have no doubt that your political career was at stake after what you have been through. We, your supporters, have been through much of the same just trying to support you, cast our votes, and even have our votes count in the final tally. We, too, have endured sexism, accusations of racism, discounting, minimizing, and diminishing our positions as voters, being thrown under the DNC bus, all in the name of the “history-making Obama-Phenomena”.
Unfortunately, our view is: Obama was “selected” by the DNC powers that be – and not the democratic voters – all of the voters – not just the voters the DNC powers have chosen to count. There are millions of us, I guarantee, that did not cast our votes for Obama and are keeping our word, as well. We, like you, believe our futures are at stake and are doing what we believe to be the right thing.
Our voices, our votes, said “No” to electing Barack Obama. This is one election that second choice was never a choice. He is not qualified, his politics and affiliations are corrupt and his campaign and supporters set a dangerous precedent in how to use voter oppression throughout an entire campaign to become a presumptive nominee. At least, the GOP only beat the hell out of us after we had voted!
And, now, our voices, our votes, will say “No” to the Democratic Party. The Obama Campaign and the DNC may have won the battle in silencing our voices and disregarding our votes throughout the Democratic Primary. But, we will use our votes to ensure we win the war – protecting our inalienable rights and personal freedoms when it comes to our Democracy – even against a professed “Democratic” Party. In fact, I will gladly take four more years of the GOP over rewarding the treason of my own Party against its own members.
They have apparently forgotten that our votes counted when we hired them. Maybe they will remember that on the day we use our votes to fire them! (They will just have “to get over it” that their Super-Delegate votes do not matter.)
Senator Clinton, I do not believe we are angry anymore; we have moved through the mourning stage of the loss of our Party together. We are now at the stage of sending out birth announcements:
“IT’S A PUMA!”
PUMA Democrat for Hillary Clinton President,
(Who will now cast a General Election Protest Vote for John McCain)
P.S. Many of us are contributing what we can to retire your debt, so Obama cannot claim that too!
thanks. duh
Interesting article linked to on the HOUND site called ‘How Obama Can Lose’ by the Baltimore Sun’. Talks about the news media focusing on unimportant stuff and not on the candidate and compares this race to earlier ones where Dem candidates looked like they were winning, but lost big.
My granparents used to live in Wabasso, Florida. Thanks again. Enjoy your movie.
#621 – though not intended for me, I thank you for your post. NYC girl, what follows is a vent – not directed to you and not suggesting or supposing that you concur with my sentiments. It kinda went along with what you said, so I’m just expanding on it – rather than start a whole new post.
It seems SOOOO difficult to defend a decision around here NOT to vote for McCain without someone tattling, complaining or accusing that same person of being a (GASP!) BO supporter. For the record, some of us are capable of NOT supporting McCain and also NOT supporting BO. YES! It’s true. Many of us still haven’t sipped from the RED or BLUE Koolaid – I’m an iced tea gal. I have repeatedly suggested that my vote is my personal decision (the “C” word and the “B” word are a big deal to ME – I’m not expecting it to matter to everyone – or even ANYONE. The C and B word when used to describe Hillary is my own personal deal-breaker. I haven’t asked or expected other PUMAs to agree with me. Scroll through the posts and you will see many posts from people who insist: “YOU MUST VOTE FOR MCCAIN” ” YOU CANNOT WRITE IN HILLARY”. “YOU CANNOT LEAVE IT BLANK” Well, for the record, I am not suggesting anything like that. I’m not asking, telling, demanding or expecting anyone else BELIEVE what I believe or how they MUST or MUST NOT vote. But I will attempt to journal my own growth process and express how my own personal feelings have evolved and why I will vote the way I will vote. I have NEVER said, directly or indirectly, that I support BO. This kind of blanket judgement is what makes this place feel like its inching closer and closer to a “John McCain or ELSE” site. I will never tell YOU how to vote. If dissent is still allowed on this site, I will continue to express my concerns, interests and feelings about this election. Even if they don’t happen to include support for many of your Republican candidate for President.
nightsky,
You are very welcome and thanks to you as well! I will enjoy the movie and probably drop by here after.
Where is Wabasso?
Tom In Paine – latest installment! Baracky Horror Unity Show. LOL!
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/
Good evening Pumas! I’m just tuning in and I hope like heck this HOUND thing is a joke! I read what Governor Ed wrote and my first reaction was, here we go again with another attempt at manipulating democrats. What part of NO DEAL don’t “they” get?
#692 wontbackdown
Excellent!
Oh my gosh. BO is heading to Europe this summer. I hope he doesn’t run into the Big Dawg over there! Ouch!
I’m a hound incognito;
Name: *Kojak
Email Address: *gotcha@yahoo.com
Phone Number: *800-eat-crap
County: *suckerville
Address 1: *nobo blvd.
Address 2:
City: *suckerforyou
Zip Code: *51897
Hey fish, we’re neighbors!
It is a long time until November. I believe the right thing to do will be clear by then. Our common goad is NoBama. Stay home, write in, or vote McCain. Keep your eyes, ears, minds and options open.
********NEWS****
Cold War breaks out between Bill Clinton and Oprah over Obama
New York, June 29 (ANI): Oprah Winfreys strong support for US presidential candidate Barak Obama seems to have incited a cold war between her and former US President Bill Clinton.
If sources are to be believed, Winfrey and Clinton didn’t seem on good terms at Nelson Mandela’s 90th birthday celebrations in London.
“There was a very cold reception between them,” the New York Post quoted a source as saying.
When Winfrey went over to Mandela’s table, where Clinton was seated, “Oprah and Bill, who used to be very close, barely acknowledged one another,” the source added.
However, sources from Clinton and Winfrey camps claimed that the two spoke to each other at a private reception before the dinner.
The list of guests included Robert De Niro, Elton John, Neil Diamond, Kim Cattrall, Pierce Brosnan and Uma Thurman. (ANI)
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/cold-war-breaks-out-between-bill-clinton-and-oprah-over-obama_10065550.html
I joined HOUND also.
name: former democrat
email: divided_we_stand_united_we_fall@aol.com
county: crook
address: 18 million ways
city: mayhem
HeadoverHills
P.U.M.A. Pac only asks that it’s members say NObama.
Your choice in how you express NObama is your own.
Legally, we can not endorse any candidate or campaign.
Members are free to discuss, debate, and state their personal preferences without consequence for their choice.
MarylandPUMA
Like the woman who was defending Hillary in the youtube clip about the press mistreating Hillary, Bill Clinton has been the only two term Democrat in years. Why does the DNC keep shooting itself in the foot? I remember someone putting it another way. I believe the quote was something like “I’ve seen the Democratic Party join hands, sing kumbaya and jump off the cliff before.” I guess they are going to do it again. And this year I finally thought I could vote for someone. And so did my father and my son. Unfortunately my husband drank the Koolaid.
#671 goandersen
Interesting how that post came up #666. Hmm….
#673 BigCatLover
I like that idea….Maybe why all the articles on the sidebar re: How Obama can lose?
#681 antifish
I think you’re right….I don’t think his heart is in it either. He looks embarrassed when I saw him interviewed on TV last week talking about an Obama event he’d participated in. He said Hillary supporters had been there and gave him packets of Kool-Aid. He said, “Yeah, I drank the Kool-Aid.” What I don’t understand is why are so many otherwise intelligent, formerly respectable, relatively independent-minded politicians jumping on the bandwagon? Where’s their integrity? Where are their principles? What in heaven’s name has happened to them? Have they gone mad?
#704 Do you think Obama will tell them to “get over it.”?
josgirl – call me a sucker. Whatcha got on how the SD’s folded so quickly that first week of June?
SOMEONE WROTE THIS ON HUFFPOST
““BC and HC have more power in their little pinkies than any of the leadership of this party.
You must be very young or very naive to think that a former president or former nominee for that matter owes the current nominee ANYTHING. Most rivals take months to endorse, HRC did it in days. Former presidents do as they please.
Go read some history books or at least try wikipedia.““`
I think its very effective answer to any obamabot.
#633 LatinPuma
I am sorry if I sound negative. I try not to. I am not really sure how blogging really works. Every time when I post something I re-read it to make sure that it sounds okay, but I guess the intonation or something is rather negative, or like I am upset or something.
#702 bythelake
remember the movie “kujo”? The one about the rabid dog?
someone needs to sigh up with that name. LOL!
Tension In Unity: Clinton Donors Give Obama Cold Shoulder
Clinton and Obama were upbeat at a meeting with top Clinton donors last night. “I know my supporters have extremely strong feelings, and I know Barack’s do as well,” Clinton said. “But we are a family, and we have an opportunity now to really demonstrate clearly we do know what’s at stake, and we will do whatever it takes to win back this White House.”
But the people they were there to win over were less enthused, according to ABC News:
One major Clinton donor described it this way: “This felt like when your mom forces you to go visit your Aunt Ida and she has to pinch your cheeks and you’re sitting there in an uncomfortable suit and you can’t wait to leave.”
Another Clinton-leaning person who was in the room said after the meeting wrapped up that there is still “a lot of anger” toward Obama among Clinton’s wealthiest fans.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/27/tension-in-unity-clinton_n_109569.html
LEAVE COMMENTS IF U LIKE —–WE MIGHT NOT BE WEALTHY BUT WE ARE MAD AS HELL—
At least tonight no one seems to be mentioning an email by WHBro