What a farce. Rude, crude, and totally unacceptable Senator Obama. Sitting while she speaks? Droning your repetitious (and BORing!) stump speech on what you claim is a historic day? Using your own daughters to condescend to American women?
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673 comments ↓
still no hillary!
I LOVE YOU MURPHY:)
Notice how they killed the sound on CNNbut the video is still rolling, there is proof that the PUMA’s are out there!!!!!
This is a “PECEPTION CAMPAIGN” It is ALL FAKE!!!!!
(sorry for the double post)
still working the crowd
Did C-Span leave their mikes open?
They still don’t get it – Chris from wash post saying we will be back – it’s not all about Hillary – it’s how we were deceived, devalued and degraded by the Dems & obama -
Aerosmith rocks! So do you, Murphy!!!!
I would give Hillary an A- for her part and maybe a c for his
i want to see who gets in car first still no sign of hillary now only crowd leaving pictures
now – some guy saying this is going to be cakewalk for obama – who baked the damn cake??
No BHO for me!
looks like they chasing crowd off
it happened so quick at the end did they do the hold hands together bit or just wave at the same time.
Senator Clinton is a class act! No wonder we admire and love her so much. She is a true Democrat
anybody see if hillary got in car first? feed is gone on internet
Hillary ROCKS! Too bad that she had to be put in the position to “support” him.
He’s an a$$, sorry, but he threw in a comment about years of work?
PUMA mentioned on MSNBC
I thought it would be a all afternoon party, not just one of those normal rallies. This was suppose to be a happy affair, it looked like let’s do this and get out of here.
What did msnbc say?
100 PUMAS – That’s good.!! We are only 4 weeks old!
Amazing they were shuffled off to a designated area. Write about it.
Well said and well done Murphy!
Reposted from previous post:
Chris Cillizza at the washingtonpost.com , the fix blog, was on C-Span talking about the article in the post this morning. They have this notion that we are going to come arould and vote for BHO. I THNIK NOT!!!!!
NOBAMA ‘08!!!
Time to show that our support is behind McCain.
Howard Dean’s scream crowd was better than this one. Do you notice how quiet it got at one point. That’s crazy!
How will we be won over
We are a small percentage
I just barey caught it………….
#18 vadaryl
looked like they were leaving a funeral home
Mccain’s speech earlier was not much better, but this was a joke.
Your right, I just don’t get it.
Murphy… I think it is time to get Press Releases out ther to every major news org, about our numbers, our positions and the fact that PUMAS are more committed than ever to put the Divide vs Unity squarely on the back of BHO and the DNP!
all i saw was wave then hillary left stage and bo drank water
P.S. We won’t “fall in line” and we will not take the blame!
My tribute to the DNC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVC2j_Kdw8c
CNN doing highlights now
#8 vadaryl
I want to flunk him for being a bad (very nice word for him) man!
PLEASE DON’T FALL FOR THIS!!! PLEASE GUYS! THEY HURT US SO MUCH! I AM LEARNING TO SHARE MY LOVE FOR HILLARY WITH McCain. He’s a pretty good guy.
#34 goodcitizen
Be careful about it. I made a similar joke the other day, and goandersen was all over it with anger.
ad for 360 tonight…”they’re showing a united front but as bo widens his lead and raises millions without clinton, many are wondering who needs whom more” sounds like another Hillary bashing
ugh…he sat there so smug looking while she was forced to stroke his ego – I wanna puke, lol.
Murphy, go_Ohio_Lady:
Good music – very entertaining. Live from Pumapac – It’s Friday afternoon!
Did you all hear the comment made on FOX, before the speech, saying that if they wanted to try to unite the party, why not have the speech in a place like WV or KY where Hillary won big. It was then said that BHO didn’t want to do that. So, does that sill sound like BHO wanting to diss us voters in WV and KY?? I believe so!! We see NHO for the snake that he is!!
Melissa
Wayne County, WV
PUMA Democrat
Dear Pumas,
I know this is long, and I’ve posted many of these thoughts before. However, here’s the letter I just emailed to Hillary (with copies to Dean, Pelosi, Brazile, and Obama). Enjoy …
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Dear Hillary,
You are a woman of amazing strength and grace to join with Senator Obama and speak on his behalf. However, there’s nothing you could say that would make me vote for him.
Once upon a time, I would have voted for Senator Obama if you had asked me to. Not anymore. Not after what I’ve seen in the last few months. Instead, I join with other PUMA PAC members in actively working to defeat Senator Obama.
Each Puma has different reasons for voting against him. Many will do so in protest for the way you were treated during the primaries. Many will do so in protest for the disenfranchisement and for the unconscionable way in which the DNC conducted itself. All will do so because we don’t believe that Senator Obama is right for our country.
In the interest of keeping my email brief, I will cite only my top two reasons. Understand, however, that there are many more.
My feelings about Senator Obama changed dramatically when the Reverend Wright story broke. I don’t believe that Senator Obama could spend 20 years in that church without embracing the hateful, poisonous attitudes of Reverend Wright. Those same hateful, poisonous attitudes dominate the blog posts from Obama supporters. When I see the hatred and violence that Senator Obama inspires in his followers, I can only conclude that an Obama presidency would be dangerous for our nation and the world. No matter what you say to praise your former rival, I see him as a very evil man.
Beyond that, I’m turned off by Senator Obama’s increasingly dismissive attitude. Refusing to do additional debates with you when voters still wanted to hear debates was dismissive of you and voters everywhere. Refusing to insist that Florida and Michigan delegates be seated in full was dismissive, not only to voters in those two states, but to voters everywhere. Refusing to accept John McCain’s invitation for weekly town hall meetings is dismissive. Voters want to hear those debates, and we’re entitled to them. Even Senator Obama’s refusal to accompany John McCain to Iraq to see conditions firsthand is dismissive.
What this says to me is that a President Obama will be dismissive of everyone and everything that doesn’t serve his immediate interests. That’s unacceptable. We’ve had that from President Bush for the last eight years. I don’t want it anymore.
I want to expand on the issue of weekly town hall meetings with John McCain, because for me it’s a very telling one. How many times during the primary season did Senator Obama say, “I welcome that debate with John McCain”? So why does he now do everything possible to avoid the weekly town hall meetings Senator McCain keeps asking for?
Here’s what Senator Obama’s actions say to me:
• Senator Obama is not a man of his word.
• Senator Obama does not respect voters who very much want to hear both candidates discuss the issues. Nor does he respect leaders in other countries who also want to hear both candidates discuss the issues.
• Senator Obama is not a man who can or will reach across the aisle as he has repeatedly promised to do. If he intended to reach across the aisle, he’d be doing it now every chance he could.
• Senator Obama is afraid that Senator McCain will expose the lack of substance behind his rhetoric.
• Senator Obama isn’t confident enough about the issues to speak without a teleprompter or the scripted words of his speech writers.
• Senator Obama doesn’t believe in transparency in government.
• If Senator Obama were to become President, he would repeatedly shy away from difficult discussions and uncomfortable topics. So, too, would he avoid talking with other world leaders unless they fall in line behind everything Senator Obama says.
You, dear Hillary, would never shy away from an invitation to do these weekly debates with Senator McCain, because you are a woman substance and good character. Senator Obama will never measure up to you, no matter how long he remains in politics.
On policy issues, I’m more closely aligned with Democrats than I am with Republicans. But I cannot in good conscience vote for a man of such bad character. If you are not our nominee, I will vote for John McCain in November. It’s not a happy choice, but it’s the only appropriate one.
FOR ME….LET IT RAIN MCCAIN!!!
HILLARY 12
I think I must have the wrong number for C-span. I have (202) 258-3886.
When I dial it says “the wireless customer you have reached…
I’m going to ask this again….
I beleive Hillary can still be the nominee. Does anyone agree?
#30 Taffy
That wasn’t water, it was clear kool-aid
#45 alohapuma
I agree
#45 Yes I agree!!!
This was a DOG and PONY show…… No Questions as the end, no “sound” while they walked through the crowd to leave.
This is an absurd joke, the MSM are desperate because when he loses, they will all look like fools…..
#40 SparkForHill, LOL
“43 mimi1020 on 06.27.08 at 2:32 pm FOR ME….LET IT RAIN MCCAIN!!!
HILLARY 12″
Sounds like the beginning of a good song.
Zimbabwe Election like DNC
coerced people to vote for a candidate……
#29 I agree and PLEASE let them know we WILL NOT back down!!
I agree! There is so much that can happen between now and the convention.
#45 alohapuma, Depends on the Denver National Convention. Too many people are in B.H.O.’s pocket. I just don’t know.
#34 – Murphy you may want to hide it. No negtives please, we have to be better.
#38 Taffy… it is no accident that they picked an evenly distributed delegate state to do this.
They did not want to risk the first “Unity” appearance in a larger metropolitan area with a potentially lower turn-out and much more “radical” voices in opposition of the disinfranchisement issues.
They are playing it safe for the moment and that is because Voter dissatification if higher than the media and DNPs pundits are acknowledging.
I love it when she references Bill’s 8 years. Bill and Hillary Clinton should be the “Darlings” of the Democratic Party not tossed under the the BO bus!!
I will never get the DNC’s thought process for not supporting her as she is light years more qualified than BHO.
Wonder what “speech” was given just before the Boston Tea Party!?!
Hillary, will continue to pray for you and your family.
OK body language experts what msg did you get from Hillary.
#44 anonymous, the number was 202 585-3886
Any words from our PUMA attendees at Unity NH? The only thing real at the event was HILLARY!!!!
#41 MissyD77 on 06.27.08 at 2:30 pm
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Actually, I read somewhere in a news article recently, wish I could remember where, that he’s written you fine folks in WV and KY off anyway. You’re not part of the ‘57 state stretegy’ because you see… you’re all clearly just a bunch of “bitter” “racists” and would never vote for *61 anyway. He does not need you, so he shall not waste his time. Doesn’t that just make you feel all warm and fuzzy toward this guy? BO is a loser and we’ll prove that part of him right come November!
Somebody just emailed this to me. It’s a new ad by McCain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mQ_eCGbdg0
Cynthia–from Women for Fair Politics on Larry King. Have fun guys.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SYS8EwR2Xso
I still can’t beleive all of you are focusing on your feelings and not on the legal issues involved.
Since, PUMA is collecting money, why not force the Obama birth certificate and constitutional issues in Florida and Michigan?
Feelings are fine, but legal issues are all you have left to work with now.
Chris Cilliza has a blog on WaPo called The Fix. Go there and let him know how you feel.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/06/the_case_against_hillary_rodha.html
#58 TXPuma on 06.27.08 at 2:37 pm
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They all jumped on the BO money train early and never looked back.
Did I miss something, who was the nominee and who came in 2nd. I think they had them out of order.
They called me “childish and naive” when I spoke out in the newspaper this past week. Could be worse?
#52 PA Guy, TRUE, the only thing they haven’t try to do is beat up on little children like the 4 year old in Zimbabwe who was beat while his mother was taken away and still no idea where she is.
Check Out the zombiesfortruth video collection, detailes flips, connections, lies and humor?
8-Balls of Fairy Dust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwwIGsusVr0
Flips1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmBfmSTFWgU
Flips2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RPApEoMdIk
Flips3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHrg-YTyd0c
Obamas Friends
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEk1piCWcEo
The Obama Zone!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7ihp9s5d0U
Let me know what you think or if you have any Ideas, always happy to make videos for others!
My public service announcement: Please consider donating to PUMA PAC so we can get the message on the airwaves and ultimately reach a larger audience. (steps off podium). Pass the popcorn, please.
This may be the first time I have posted here. But have been lurking for a while.
First, thank you, Murphy, for having the passion to develop and host this sight. After being a Marshan, I needed a new home.
I have been a lifelong Democrat since I worked for and voted for McGovern.
I have now left the party, and will be voting for McCain.
I will never vote for Obama. I cannot be cajoled, coerced, intimidated, shamed, flattered, bought or in any other context, forced to give him my vote.
I pray that a miracle happens and Hillary becomes the nominee, but barring that, I will work for McCain, and wait for Hillary in 2012.
Thank you, Murphy, and thank you, PUMAs.
#45 alohapuma on 06.27.08 at 2:33 pm
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I agree!
#42 Firebelle Puma… excellent letter, on-point with how I feel.
Kempion, #64 — Pumas are a “we,” not a “you.” Divisive comments are not welcome. WE aim to reunite, not divide.
Goodcitizen, I deleted your comment. Obama deserves to lose in November, that’s all.
alohapuma#45
Many believe it …keep the faith!!
http://www.michellewhitedove.com/Blog-%20TheDemocraticIllusionJune2008.php
#61 go_Ohio_Lady
Thank you. I just called.
#51 PA Guy on 06.27.08 at 2:35 pm Zimbabwe Election like DNC
coerced people to vote for a candidate……
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The similarities are astounding!
Kempion #64
Legal issues? We can’t afford. Feelings? We can and they’re pretty strong, action strong. I think the birth certificate thing is weak. The relationships to Rezco and others is another matter worth time, energy and money. More will come, I’m sure.
I was about to give up all hope that Hillary had any chance of pulling this one out, but after that whatever you call it event, I am still holding out some hope.
#74 Murphy
Thank you for protecting us.
right on kempion. True! isnt Ed Hale getting a law suite going?
Just saw this on TMZ. Too funny!
Obama to Scarlett — It’s Not Me, It’s You
Posted Jun 26th 2008 3:10PM by TMZ Staff
Scarlett Johanssen loves Barack Obama — like, moony and gushy loves Obama. But — like her singing talent — it’s all in her head, apparently.
Johansson has been telling anyone who would listen that she has a furious email and phone relationship with the Democratic nominee and even that she’s “engaged” to him. (That’s probably news to Ryan Reynolds.) But as the National Review reports, Barack just revealed that he’s only gotten one email Scarlett — and it came through his assistant.
“I write saying, ‘thank you Scarlett for doing what you do,’ and suddenly we have this email relationship,” said Obama.
http://www.tmz.com/page/2/
The event? Sheep – BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
#60
I believe Hillary was out of body. Her sightline was “up and over”. She was composed in her body language, ie beauty queen smile, and clasped hands. I attended a small gathering of lawyers shortly after the “M Story” broke and she was exactly the same. This is disciplined composure.
I think the only way to rescue her from this humiliation is to thumb our nose at Obama’s money machine and pay off that debt. The faster we do it, the more dismissive Hillary supporters can be of Obama.
I truly believe the SD will abandon him like moldy bread if we give them an out. Most have got to know he is a disaster in the making
#76 anonymous, your welcome
I can’t believe how bad that was! Did anybody think it was good?
I was looking for some sort of apologies from Obama to Hillary but he proved that he was not man enough to so. It is just not in his character at all. It was so shameful that he kept repeating Hillary’s ideas on stage in order to link himself to her, and that has been how he claimed to have similar policy as Hillary all along.
We need to bring democracy back into the party and to hold DNC accountable for what it has done.
Country before Party, No Obama.
I agree with #44 alohapuma that Hillary still can be the nominee, but we have to do our part smartly.
OBAMA a political opportunist…..changes his mind
on MSNBC now
Ok…where’s our actionpac person. Here’s a link to American Pie lyrics. I say we send a copy with something (not sure what!) and Hillary money to anyone DNC dean pelosi brazille sds news media THE PARTY (with the good old boys drinking in celecbration) IS GONE!!! This was a farce! Sexist and humiliating!! There has been no convention, no roll call. They are backing Hillary into a corner where there will be no roll call!
http://www.1songlyrics.com/don-mclean/american-pie-printversion
#65 Kempion
Feeling help unite people, there is much work being done by this group, and the workload will increase. There is nothing wrong with focusing on feelings after watching that circus. And we have more than legal issues to work with, we have SD’s who have not yet committed, we have SD’s who have committed to Hillary.
We have the head people of this PUMA Pac dedicated to ensuring the Democratic party takes note of the actions members here are doing.
How do you recommend we go after the birth certificate, other than what is already being done. Its not an easy feat if reporters can’t even get it.
#71 mlhath
Welcome.
Mitt R endorsing Mccain was better show than this one.
#86 vadaryl, the only thing good about that farce of a rally was getting to see Hillary.
Regarding #45 alohapuma, I agree Hillary can still be nominated. That’s what this movement is all about for me (and even if she isn’t nominated, I have to follow through and protest the vote or risk another movement like this in the future not being taken seriously — and I don’t want my vote to be a lie). In any case, there’s a lot of time between now and the convention, a lot can happen and the superdelegates may realize it’d really be better to nominate the better candidate (the rest of the delegates need to follow the rules, or rules mean nothing).
I take it that recent posts are “upstairs.” I left a post “downstairs” apparently at the same time Murphy opened up a new “upstairs” here. I don’t want to repeat everything I said, but if you have a moment, go back toward the end for my comment on two matters: LGBT/Human Rights Campaigh Fund and being positive.
Some brave soul may want to venture over to Cheetoh Central or HuffyPuffy to find out how they’re spinning it in Ilostmybrainistan.
Not I.
Wear your helmets!
…Did anyone catch the Obama comment about how she does it all in “heels” ….please…she does it in heels with more b@@ls then he has….
Apologize?????? I’ve yet to hear a politician apologize……..
My take on this event is that after putting them up there side by side, speaking one after the other, sheeesh, if there is any doubt left in anyone’s mind, she is clearly the truly presidential one….(hello america! wake up!)
…and holy smokes, I could also see the panic in BO’s eyes while Hillary was speaking, as if he were thinking to himself, “Geez I am up sh** creek without a paddle. I need her more than I realized.”
That was the body language I saw. Hers was all about her well-earned power, natural confidence, and the pure joy of knowing who she really is….his was nowhere near that category.
If we don’t have a Hail Mary Hillary Miracle in Denver, then BO would be crazy not to put her on the ticket.
Murphy, I support Clinton because of my faith in our Constitution. I don’t care for her politics anymore than I care about McCain’s. I am anti-partisan.
While PUMA seeks to unite the Democratic Party, I seek to unite our COUNTRY. While our Constitution is under attack from BOTH parties, we will not be united.
I support PUMA in your support of Clinton and PUMA’s stance against the DNC. If there were a Republican version of PUMA, I would support them as well.
I am here to defend our Constitution.
Gotta GO…………..catch y’all later………
It will be interesting what hannity says on his show in few minutes.
valdaryl #86: Oh hell to the NO!! I made my physically ill!!
Ilostmybrainistan in Obamistan! I bet his trolls can’t any say it.
#84 alohapuma on 06.27.08 at 2:45 pm
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I agree! Pay down the debt for her! Let’s free her from under it and then we’ll see what happens.
Visit Heidi Li Feldman’s blog and click on one of her pay down the debt links today!
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/
#44 alohapuma I agree with you~
How fake was that event? pretty much 100% being Noname bussed everyone in to begin with!
I also seen someone {in black t-shirt}hussled off the back of the stage when the video started~
Was that one of our Puma’s?
How did they silence our Pumas?
Did they get detained? Sent to a bogus location?
#45 yes I agree. It is NOT over! There are still some things in the works. She WILL be at the convention. We just need to get that debt paid. There are a lot of things happening behind the scenes, and some very big fundraisers, and influential people still working very hard for her. do not give up….the more he is out there, the more foolish he looks. If you really look at this…it is he who needs Hillary and us…this would not be happening if it weren’t so. He would not be giving her the time of day….
Just brush your shoulders off…stamp that devil under your feet…and let’s get back to work for Hillary.
Murphy,
My account at HuffPo was never activated. Anyone who can post over there might mention that PUMA accounts are not being activated.
Firebelle #98
Again, so well said. How’s the knee and how’s the play? Do we have Act III yet?
#56 i figured they picked a smaller venue to control Hillary fans.. this was supposed to be about bo but sure wasn’t enthusiastic crowd. I remember when i was in late show audience. they had signs overhead and people running around with signs that said “applause” I kept looking for them when “he” was talking
#64 Kempion
Many people ARE focused on the legal issues, as you’ll readily see if you go back through previous threads. However, lots of folks need to vent this morning in response to the speech in Unity.
Having said that, however, I personally believe that the issues you raised (Obama’s birth certificate and the disenfranchisement in Florida and Michigan) are dead issues. The DNC has repeatedly shown that it doesn’t care about these things. And our government will always find ways to get around these legal “inconveniences.”
I believe we need to move forward and find other avenues of attack. That’s why I keep pushing the debate issue. I may be wrong, but I think the most effective approach will be to keep showing how weak Obama is against McCain … and to do it strong and hard before the Denver convention. We don’t really want McCain as our President. But we can’t have Hillary as an option unless Obama self-destructs in the next two months.
Murphy, do you know how many PUMA’s were going to go today and is someone going to report back to you about what they went through?
#44
I still hold out hope that she will be our nominee. The Denver Group is working towards it. They are part of Hillary’s large donor group. I also think the way things are going for BHO – the superdelegates may determine it is in their best interest to follow the will of the people.
BHO is going downhill fast.
Superdelegates can switch at the convention to make a difference.
#96 dmrr on 06.27.08 at 2:48 pm
…Did anyone catch the Obama comment about how she does it all in “heels” ….please…she does it in heels with more b@@ls then he has….
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I believe that is called ‘testicular fortitude’! LOL!
#95 helmet…and shovels for the donkey s***.
He had to drink so much water while she was speaking i was afraid they’d declare a shortage
#113 SparkForHill on 06.27.08 at 2:54 pm Superdelegates can switch at the convention to make a difference.
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It’s my understanding that even the pledged delegates can switch if it goes past the first ballot.
Firechief #98
Oops. Wrong fire! How yah doing Fire chief? Haven’t heard from you in a while? There are three of us in WA that our talking via e-mail everyday. Want to join? Just ask Murphy for my g-mail. #108 was to you except there’s nothing wrong with your knee, I hope and you’re not Firebelle. I love her written play. Have you seen it?
#95 murphy… I spend hours trying to post there (HP).
there were suppose to be 100 puma’s in unity!
Murphy have you been contacted by any yet?
I pray they are allright!
#105: Hopefully Puma’s attending will be back home soon and check in with a full report of their experience in “UN-ity” We know they were there even if we didn’t see much of them.
Oh by the way, Heidi Li has a summary of her insider’s visit to the big joint ‘fundraiser’ event last night on her blog:
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/
#105 gokimfrommichigan
What station were you watching? We can watch the replays and see if we can spot what you saw.
Went to huff post and only a few negative comments from what I read in the blog, about half the overall comments are about McCain looking old, and the comments about bo and Hillary are basically that they looked good together, and things look good. LOl I read about halfway down, its too boring same thing over and over
#95 Murphy
I am wearing a helmet and full body armor. You won’t believe this. They are showing a close up picture of HBO kissing Hillary on the cheek.
Firebelle #110
Agree fully. How’s the Play? Where’s Act III?
The greatest thing, she didnt give up her delegates
TREEPUMA
Anonymous #125
Ahhhhh. How sweet?
This is from HCSFJM.com site: This is good!!
NEWS ALERT! Just on Fox News: James McConaha (long-time democrat & formerly on Pres. Clinton’s staff) is now heading up “New Hampshire Democrats for McCain”!!!
He says he CANNOT back Obama & because of his high regard for Sen. McCain, he & his wife will be backing & campaigning for MCCAIN!!!
I LOVE IT !!!
#110 Firebelle Puma
It doesn’t matter if the DNC wishes to bury those issues. Of course, they want them to go away because they know the DNC violated the Constitutional rights of voters in Florida and Michigan.
The more you surrender, then more they will take. As I have expressed here — http://kempion.blogspot.com/2008/06/do-you-remember-2008.html
We’ve seen our 4th and 5th Amendments destroyed by DHS. Now, the DNC is going to get away with shredding our 15th Amendment. This is crazy.
#123 BigCatLover~
I was flipping the channels from c-span, cnn, msnbc & fox
I live an hour from Denver, I will do my part, in fact, I moved here from CA and therte are many Republicans here so even thaough we must fight hard iin CO, I do not think that BHO will pull off a WIN in November….
Nevertheless, I am trying to get some of my Republican neighhbors/friends to go to the convention with me to protest the Treasonous Obamaination
Mayor0102
I am in Wasington also, Everett area. I would like to be included in your group. Ask Murphy for my email.
#117 PA4HILL08
Then how can we be sure Hill can pass first ballot? Would Dean block it?
I saw one shot of a guy wearing a black cap with a white brim and what was clearly a PUMA emblem like this site) on the front of it.
Aombie #132
Have you joined the “millionvoicesforClinton” group who will be in Denver? Does someone have the e-mail address for millionvoices?
c-span is suppose to be replaying @8:00 pm
& Cnn live had 3 live channels going at the same time,
My monitor is only good about 15 min at a time then goes black so I had that off~
I think I started out watching c-span~
#71 – MLHATH
Welcome to the Jungle !
So much for my typing today. Zombie not Aombie. #132
Comments from Cheetohs:
As I listen to Hillary (22+ / 0-)
…I’m thinking this is a big FU to the PUMA people.
Great speech so far.
Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool– how much worse lying lips to a ruler – Proverbs 17:7
by BarbinMD on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:30:40 AM PDT
The PUMA people? Both of them? n/t (11+ / 0-)
Sim, a gente pode!
by SLKRR on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:33:02 AM PDT
Ha! n/t (4+ / 0-)
Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool– how much worse lying lips to a ruler – Proverbs 17:7
by BarbinMD on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:37:20 AM PDT
I heard (4+ / 0-)
all the PUMAs are cougars.
Is it irresponsible to speculate? It’s irresponsible not to.
by Penman on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:39:56 AM PDT
That is so wrong… (0+ / 0-)
… and so right.
Bush and McCain are suffering from a pre-1215 mindset.
by droogie6655321 on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:44
ok cable people wo is andrea mitchell? I’m in the trenches and they are really knocking her. saying she totally for clintons and they won’t watch her. She seems to think bo been disrespectful to Hillary throughout primary but she’s in clinton tank. they only seem to like keith oberman(?) sorry i don’t have cable
Terrig #132
I’m way south in the “armpit” of WA, southwest near Portland, OR. I’ll e-mail Murphy.
andrea mitchell=rita skeeter ???
#141 Taffy
I thought I’d read on earlier blogs that Andrea Mitchell was just as anti-Clinton as the other MSM. Clear this up folks.
Kempion,
I agree the legal issues (the nuts and bolts) will win the day. HOWEVER, we need to be fueled by emotion as well.
For me, believing Hillary can still be the nominee and President, is what keeps me going right now. It’s not resentment about what *61 did or didn’t do, or the believe that he is basically a con man.
*61 will eventually self-destruct and I have to believe the clearer minds in the party know that by now! Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean are not the clearer minds in the party.
This is just speculation, but I suspect they recruited *61 to run to build the party base again. You have to admit it was tempting given his “star power”. I think they had no idea that kind of money could be raised using Internet marketing techniques. ITS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!
Now they have this unveiled guy who is showing himself, who they probably can not control if he gets in the White House.
I know a couple of Super’s personally. They have held for Hillary, but it’s not easy. Those who have switched to *61 did so because they are petrified by the numbers *61 brings to the table. Remember, their own re-election prospect come first.
I think many of these SD’s need an out and right now they don’t have one.
Most of what I just said is speculation…btw…
141- MANBC, andrea mitchell – Ex Fed Chairman GS’s wife.
#96 & 114:
Ovaries trump testicles any day of the week.
Andrea Mitchell is MSNBC.
I cant believe how much I enjoy Hannity these days.
Another Cheetoh:
HIllary: suck it, PUMA. nt (9+ / 0-)
Full text of H.CON.RES 362. (Yes, the ‘War on Iran’ one.)
by AxmxZ on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:38:37 AM PDT
#147 DancesWithPumas, LOL, some of you PUMA’s are too funny today…thanks, we all need a good laugh.
#130 Kempion
I certainly don’t disagree with you. But the more weapons we use, the greater our chance of winning.
#128 mayor 0102
I couldn’t believe it either. He is such a phony. I can’t stand him.
This picture of him kissing Hillary–OUR Hillary is on every website.
wow lots of hillary trolls on their site giving them fits
one point they say “he” has vowed he will not ask his small donors to contribute to Hillary even though link is up. Let the fat cats between the two fight it out!
they having same problem as here…not wanting to contribute anymore because afraid it will go to hillary instead of “him”
Andrea Mitchell has been consistently anit-Clinton…glaringly so. Watching her reports early in the campaign was my first tip that the media was on the obot bandwagon.
44 Aloha
I do
TREEPUMA
andrea mitchell is msnbc and pro NoName and Anti-Hillary at least she always has been before and is married to Alan Greenspan.
Excellent article on MSNBC… Not all things are rosie in “unityville” with Big Clinton Donors:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25411295/
#145 alohapuma
When the courts agree with me on the tresspasses of our 4th and 5th Amendments, it’s not speculation. The battle over the 15th will never happen, so we don’t know where the courts stand.
You all can take whatever approach you like. My concern will always be focused on protecting our rights.
More Cheetohs! They are such nice people!
she still annoys me (3+ / 0-)
will she shut up and give Obama the podium?
by PROfess PROgress on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:40:58 AM PDT
Uncalled for (6+ / 0-)
White Chick for Obama!
by bluestateonian on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:42:18 AM PDT
I think it’s better for her to do a lot of the (8+ / 0-)
talking, actually. Her supporters are the ones who need to be convinced and she is more likely to convince them than he is. That’s the point of this event.
Proud to be a latte-sipping, arugula-eating, kool-aid drinking egghead supporting Barack Obama.
by democrattotheend on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:42:21 AM PDT
I know that (1+ / 0-)
He has to embrace her, its a political move.
by PROfess PROgress on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:45:12 AM PDT
Right! She is killing the mood up in here. (1+ / 0-)
We Want Obama!!!!
Bob Marley: Don’t let them fool ya. Or even try to school ya…
by JoanMar on Fri Jun 27, 2008 at 10:43:10 AM PDT
#108 mayor0102
Act II is always the longest. I’m trying my best to script it with our desired income. But I ain’t the only one wielding a pen.
The knees keep improving. Thanks for asking.
I hope the caption over the picture is true.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/politics/
Terrig #133
Sent an e-mail to Murphy asking her to send you my internet address (gmail). Looking forward to hearing from you. Those of us in WA have been surrounded by Obamania. I have a connection in Oregon as well. It’s great getting to now each of the PUMA friends. We all have different opinions and reasons why we are in PUMAville.
#141
Are you kidding me, in the tank for the Clintons. Years ago maybe. I have heard nothing but crap from Andrea M. since Bosnia. She was there with Hillary.
The unity speech – if you listen carefully, each repeated their own primary tone, there is no harmony. It will be hard for them to work together, especially with BO on TOP.
Must listen to Hannity. He is talking about our groups!
I don’t know if anyone posted this. It’s a video of Unity on MSNBC. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25415076#25415076
#108 Firebelle
Still on ACT II? I can hardly wait. How are the fires down south? It’s getting more coverage than the mid-west floods today?
Just read this joke and thought, now I know why he was clapping so strangely today!!
*61 is for banning all guns in America . At a recent rural elementary school assembly in EastTexas, he asked the audience for total quiet. Then, in the silence, he started to slowly clap his hands once every few seconds, holding the audience in total silence.
Then he said into the microphone, ‘Children, every time I clap my hands together, a child in America dies from gun violence.’
Then, little Richard Earl, with a proud East Texas drawl, pierced the quiet and said: ”Well, dumb-a**, stop clapping!’
Nice letter Firebelle Puma. I wrote to that weasel Dean today also.
want to donate to make andrea mitchell weathergirl in burma
#129 Rosemay57
I think we should email James McConaha and thank him for doing the right thing. Hopefully others will come to their senses and follow.
Was out reading the blogs and found this terrific quote about possum and Hillary – ‘united is just an airline’ (btw – they’re not doing so well either)
If you have the latest people magazine….look on page 113…disgusting!!! For those who don’t it is MO being portrayed as Jackie O. Hurl city!!
Hannity giving a shout out to Just Say No Deal. Says Hillary supporters flocking to BO is pure media spin.
now dissing a margaret bloomburg
Donna Brazile sent me this brief canned response to the email I sent this morning to Hillary (with copies to Brazile, Dean, Pelosi and Obama) …
***
Stop the hate and do not send more emails to me. Go find your joy and stop disrespecting Hillary Clinton.
If you want McCain, send him your rantings. I have moved on and it’s time you send your angry notes to someone else.
***********
Here’s my response to Donna (with copies to Dean, Pelosi, Obama, and our beloved Hillary) …
***
Dear Ms. Brazile,
I wouldn’t be sending emails to you if I didn’t respect your position as a superdelegate. Despite what I believe is your misguided support of Senator Obama, I’d like to believe that you care about our country and our future. I’d like to believe that you’ll exercise good judgment and cast your vote for Hillary Clinton at the convention in Denver.
I often do send copies of my emails to Senator McCain, as per your suggestion. I sincerely hope he’ll use my talking points.
As for your suggestion to “stop the hate,” the hate isn’t coming from me or my PUMA family. We love this country too much to see it in the hands of a man who spent 20 years embracing the hateful, poisonous rhetoric of Reverend Wright. We love this country too much to see it in the hands of a man who inspires such vile behavior in his followers. Again, I seriously considered voting for Barack Obama months ago. But the more I see of him, the more I dislike, distrust, and fear him.
Even my staunch Republican friends, who have gained increasing respect for Hillary Clinton during the primary season, have begun describing Senator Obama as “scary.” They didn’t feel that way last January. This is new. This is something they’re seeing in light of the Reverend Wright story and the hateful blog postings of Obama’s supporters.
If you keep tuning us out and don’t heed our words, the Democrats will go down in defeat in November. I have a feeling that the DNC cares more about winning than it does about crowning Obama. If you want to win, the way to do it is with Hillary.
Thank you for your consideration.
Kempion,
Because we all see the world through different lenses and respond accordingly, the majority of these issue are relevent in terms of public perception.
To clarify, I was not suggesting you were speculating, nor would I base my vote or activist involvement on speculative thought.
Looks like there are 2 links. The first is his speech, the second is hers.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25415076#25414991
saying she only brought up bill to stir the pot funny bet there is a troll watching my comments
Hi troll!!
Alohapuma, I agree. I believe Hillary would not be doing this unless she had something up her sleeve. She would not allow herself to be publicly humiliated by supporting BO, unless there was a damn good reason for it. Uniting the party is not the reason.
She knows full well this SOB will be putting his foot in his mouth one too many times. He has also been burning bridges without constructing new ones. He has no where to go but down.
I hear when Hillary introduced BO to her financial supporters last night, they were less than impressed. When asked about the blatant sexism that Hillary was hurt by, he stated well others have also been hurt. That was his chance to take a stand for women, for Hillary and he did not!
I have to believe that BO will self-implode and Hillary will be our nominee! I don’t believe that BO can win and I don’t believe the DNC thinks he can either.
I will vote Republican for the first time in 34 years. My party has given me no choice, if Hillary isn’t our nominee. I will vote for the American people and not allow BO anywhere near the White House!
One Love
Firebell,
Goddess response!
Unity bo creates these magical things and then capitalizes on them for us to enjoy
#180 dcinvegas~
Thank you for both links, I saved them my monitor is scrolling hardta see wher I’m typing has to cool off~
I think I left the last post on the previous blog. I’m reposting here as if anyone is from Florida they may also wish to contact Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz. I think I will also write to Donna Brazile again even if she did ask me not to contact her again as she was spreading Joy and I was being hateful.
BY FAX: (954) 437-4776
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Dear Rep. Schultz,
I know you were a Clinton supporter who is now supporting Obama. I ask that you not release Sen. Clinton’s delegate to Obama. The race is not over and anything can happen before the Convention. Furthermore, Hillary has the right to have a roll call at the convention. Many candidates before her went to the convention with far less delegates.
As to the Clinton supporters that are for McCain, I am a PUMA, one of many pro-Hillary supporters all over America. I will not ever vote for Obama as I consider him not to be the true nominee. He was “selected” by the DNC Rules Committee who met behind closed doors and allocated delegates to Obama that he did not earn and also gave him 4 of Hillary’s earned delegates. As a member of Congress, you should be alarmed at the hijacking of the democratic process. The party has lost me as I cannot support an unqualified candidate who lies about his associations and also played the race card against the Clintons and then blamed them.
The Unity event today in NH was a farce. The Party is not united and we will not come home until the DNC does the right thing and takes away Obama’s delegates that he did not earn and have a roll call at the convention with Hillary on the first ballot.
Again, I will not support Obama.
.
#178 Firebelle Puma, powerful response!
Susie #174
United Airline comment! Love it
saying she is holding her delegates hostage until bo pays off her debt
#161 antifish
What site are you on?
Murphy,
We need you and Mr. Bower to give a response to this “Unity” show. Can you call in or something? Larry King asks people to call in to ask their questions. Can you call and talk to him tonight?
Hi dcinvegas.. Glad to see you back. E-mail me.
Unity, NH: It was a repelling combination, like a meal of Chocolate Cake and unsweetened Grapefruit juice! The love just wasn’t there!
Here is a little note from Donna Brazile expressing her prefab opinion of NobamaNetwork.com:
Subject: Unity Across America,
Yes, it hurts to see the party united and it must hurt to see two terrific Americans embracing for change.
Can you send your filth, your hate and your repugnant views to the political party that has spent decades dividing us along similar lines?
Here is where I stand and millions of other Americans who will work hard to support the Democrats this Fall: No more lies, no more smears and no more wars!!!!
No more tax cuts to the wealthy and no more crumbs to struggling middle class families!!!
No more levee breaches and no more government trailers laced with poisons.
Get a grip and find your joy! I have moved on and it’s time you and those you are trying to rally with hate filled lies and more smears find your joy.
Now saying she being gracious and positive in her speech
#168 dcinvegas
Thanks for the link. I just started watching *61 and had to come back to complain. When he was thanking everyone, he said, “Thank you Hillary Clinton” and he didn’t even look at her. She was standing right next to him, and he couldn’t even look at her when he thanked her! He disgusts me!!
#169 mayor0102
I haven’t been following the news stories too closely. It breaks my heart to see all the fires burning in California, knowing that I can’t be on the fireline helping. It’s still too soon to know if I’ll be able to return as a firefighter. However, I’m seeing measurable improvement in my knees. I now have hope.
“Get a grip and find your joy!”
LOL!!!
Firebelle #178
Donna can’t take the heat, can she? Everything is about “hate” with these people. I remember the 60s when it was love, love, love, peace, peace, peace. Now its the 2000s and its hate, hate, hate. Where have all the flowers gone?
all about bo and how gracious he is and people can really see the contrast and he right choice. also saying give her a break she’s trying too old to run again after bo
I’m watching her speech…they keep the camera close on her so all you can see behind her is kool aid drinkers. Her speech is enough to make you cry. I know she has to say it but it hurts to hear it nonetheless.
Firebelle #196
Keep the faith. Knees take a long time. I have two in my family who have had different knee surgeries and it does take a long time (a year) and that was with theraphy twice a week. Don’t force it. Anyhow, you have great writing talents.
donna must have some of bo’s legion of soldier boys sending those letters, they do not sound like they would come from someone who is familiar with writing to the public.
They have a hate and anti-everything smell to them.
#182 DaddysDarlin
I agree. Hillary certainly gives the appearance of supporting Obama. But more than that, she’s appealing to his supporters so that when he implodes, she will have already captured their respect. She’ll be able to slip into that nominee role with far less resistance from Obama’s supporters.
said screamed bo then Hillary cause didn’t want her to feel bad
I’m gonna have to take a shower soon
bo quientessential gentleman discouraging chants for him and encouraging hers
dcinvegas #200
I cried all through her speech. The reason was because she is the best leader that this country “could have” had and the DNC and Obamanites let it slip through their fingers. It’s not about who is “best”, but who is most popular. That’s high school politics at its worst.
I’m sorry to say this but I dont think paying down Hillary’s debt is going to make “our” point. Can we come up with 20mil even 10mil? She is doing her job. If ‘we the people’ pay down her debt then what? Will she be free? I am not convinced. She is still part of the Dem. party. Debt or not 18mil votes should count for something. My God this is the Clintons, the most powerful couple in the party. And they still pushed her aside. I think paying down her debt is a nice idea, but not productive. We are not heavy hitters, if we were we would have been at the Mayflower yesterday.
We DO need to make a stand today with something. $5.00 to McCain? A crap load of stuffed pumas sent to HER office? I dont know what. BUT SHE also needs to know WE ARE NOT BUYING IT.
I love Hillary and I want her in this time but we need to let them know soon that we are not that easy. And our purpose here is larger.
#178 Firebelle Puma… Great letter and…..
How hypocritical “Stop the Hate”… Yes, Ms. Brazile, we do believe that BHO, you and the DNC are doing more damage to both women’s rights and the progress our country has made in the last 20 years over racial issues, not to mention the public’s view of a tainted political process.
Why does she believe that a “black” selectee is more important history-making than would be the woman she has long “admired so much”, used for her own political aspirations, and would hands-down profess as the most qualified candidate, if it were not for BHO jumping in the race as an opportunist against a female candidate!
Hi PUMAS,
I AM NEW to your membership. It sickens me that Obama would use my state of “New Hampshire” for his theatrical charade. Who is organizing in New Hampshire? I want in to defeat Obama. As a former Edwards voter turned Hillary supporter, I want you to know that more than 18 million people supported Hillary, 18million who voted for her plus 3 votes from my houshold. We will not accept NOBAMA! UNITY my foot! America still believes in doing the right thing. We don’t “select we elect nominees”. We will vote for McCain to make it hard for Obama if the DNC doesn’t make things right. For every vote McCain gets, Obama will need 2 more. – have to pick up my son it’s thundering in New Hampshire. It will rain on Obama’s parade…how fitting! Go PUMAS!!
arguing over whether this is possible lead in to joint ticket. somebody made comment she would be great in the debates
#96 heels…….doing it with b@@ls……oh my gosh, that was a good one!
Hello Everyone …
Before we start donating to Senator McCain’s Campaign, we desperately need to pay down Senator Clinton’s Campaign Debt … to position her, just in case that miracle comes along … so please don’t go off the bridge just because there was a rally today. Senator Clinton is being a team player with professionalism, grace, style, and keeping us in mind always. I’m not saying (so don’t take this message out of context) that I would vote for Senator Obama … I will not, but if you have the $$$’s to donate, please bring down the debt for Senator Clinton’s Campaign to give a good position at the August 25th Convention … should the opening occur, and to PUMA.
Remember, Senator Edwards also suspended his campaign and could move … in a minute.
GO TO HILLARY CLINTON.COM donate to bring down her debt. Everyone I’ve talked to at her Campaign Office confirms that all $$$’s donated go to her Campaign.
Thanks for listening!
(#44) alohapuma:
No, Hillary won’t get the nomination as things stand now.
She was once my hope; she is no more. Why? Because, as I have found, she is for the principle of party first, not power to the people.
Your hopes and mine as PUMAs should now be focused on roaring at the DNC, that we are about to pounce on them for turning full votes into halfs and stealing others for Obama. AND for them giving abated importance to the popular vote.
The current DNC leadership has skewed the meaning of democracy (a system in which people rule) and needs to be dealt with before they can get away with their acts of oligarchy (rule by a few members of the elite, who generally benefit themselves).
Think restoration to democracy, okay? That’s what PUMA is mainly all about, not Hillary Clinton (I hope I have that right, Murphy).
Taffy #210
Why should Hillary clean up OB’s messes? I hope she is not on the ticket for that very reason. Let him fall and fall hard.
Oh God “In Obama We Trust”
#65 antifish – posted to WA Post & Chris what’shis name but it’s in moderation – told him that he & the rest of the media etc just don’t get it – that of course we’re angry about Hillary but that we are protesting the way the DNC, the dems, obama & the media selected the nominee, etc……………feel like I am beating my head against the wall – feels good when I stop…….
Mayor0102
Thanks for the support. If Hillary can keep the faith, I can too.
As for Donna, it’s her own hate that colors her view of the world. Were she not so full of poison herself, and were Obama not so full of poison, Donna would be generating responses that help us see why Obama would be good for the country. Alas, there’s nothing good she can cite, so she has no choice but to call us hateful.
4 just said they went and donated $25 at Hillary’s site
Maxgrader #214
Agree completely. I’ll always love Hillary and support her in any endeavor, but not the DNC. The PUMA goals are very clear. In fact, MURPHY, can we post them again from time to time on the threads. Not everyone goes back to the PUMApack Intro.
Finally! The MSM is reporting that “we” are not the only ones that are not “falling in line”, “coming around” and “getting over it”.
I want to encourage everyone here that this is not over. The war between the GOP and BHO has just begun.
Who do you really think the country would pick to be in the same fox hole in the midst of a war – BHO or McCaine?
Firebelle #218
Poooooor Donna. One has to feel for her if she has that much hate stored up. Must have been a tough life (seriously)
big discussion on why he didn’t bring up problems in Zimbabwe. others arguing he needs to wait til he president then he can make changes
My response to the Democratic National Party asking for money;
I will not give one copper penny to support OB.
Big test? You bet. You and the democratic party help steal the party nomination
from the best candidate, Hillary Clinton.
No Hillary, NO MONEY!
BHO and BHO supporters alike will say or do anything to get our votes, Please do not fall for it, it is all empty.
I have been posting on several sites since December and I have watched as these supporters have disrespected Hillary and her supporters. I have taken screen shots from that BHO blog site and watched as the hateful bile spewed accross the screen, then I would look at the HRC site and see, uplifting, gracious spirited conversations.
This is what really “Turned me on” to Hillary (yes I am a man, and not in that way
)
This country needs not only the most quallified person (HRC) but this woman and the uplifting support from these great women that have been behind her since day one!
BHO is desperate, his words are empty rhetoric and he does not care for anyone but himself, just like his followers.
Do not give them the satisfaction, just look at the blogs and you will see how they really feel about us!
Hillary Supporters for McCain 08
McCain/Clinton 08 (I will support that ticket!)
Comment…Thank God illary wasn’t like this in campaign. We would have lost.”
hillfan4mccain,
Everything you say is true…especially that 18 million votes and winning the popular vote should count for something. It should mean everything.
I also believe we have to be pragmantic about what needs to be done here. If Hillary’s supporters do not pay this debt off, then this issue will haunt her and discredit her for the rest of her political career.
We are not heavy hitters, most of us. The thing is in the Internet age, we don’t have to be heavy hitters individually to influence a large result. BO is charming (for awhile) and give a rousing speech (better the first time) but his ability to harnass the power of the Internet to generate money and influence public opinion is why he is where he is.
In someways we are practicing “old school resistence” which is also extremely important, but I don’t think that’s going to win the day without incorporating what I’ve described above.
Please understand I mean no offense. Our pupose in the larger context is to protect our democracy. You are absolutely right.
I just think we can not loose sight of the nuts and bolts and realities of politics.
#181 dcinvegas
The link to Hillary’s speech stops every few seconds. I take it as a sign that “WE ARE NOT VOTING FOR HBO”
PUMA’s
You still rock.
I posted a link earlier to the radio broadcast that was on the BBC but I don’t think it worked properly.
It should work now.
Try
http://powerofpuma.blogspot.com/2008/06/pumas-at-unity-sham-speak-to-bbc.html
or
http://pumaalliance.podbean.com/2008/06/27/bbc-news-at-unity-new-hampshire/
Hillary needs to tell BHO and the DNC the following and then release a statement to the Public that it is what she has told them:
“Okay, I’ll do whatever you want, go wherever you want, say whatever you want, as long as there is a delegate role call at the convention and my name is still on the ballot.”
re: the issue of People with MO the new Jackie O (which the NYT did a couple of months ago) … Seems to me MO is more along the likeless of Evita or Imelda.
somebody posting comments from hillary supporters at mccain’s site
saying bo doesn’t owe clintons anything and if bill demands anything he should just walk away. he already being gracious in helping pay down her debt
Bill shuns Oprah.
BILL Clinton gave the cold shoulder to Barack Obama’s biggest supporter, Oprah Winfrey, at Nelson Mandela’s 90th birthday in London. A source at the dinner in Hyde Park, catered by Gordon Ramsay, told us, “There was a very cold reception between them.” When Winfrey went over to Mandela’s table, where Clinton was seated, “Oprah and Bill, who used to be very close, barely acknowledged one another,” the source said
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100021144&docId=l:813926653&start=1
#298 I also agree we should not have to pay down her debt. We are not wealthy and that is a lot of $$. We need to spend our dollars towards ads and commercials against Obama. Also, at hcsfjm, that group is not focusing on paying off her debt as they are doing their best to get enough money to run the Chicago Sun Times Ad. If we can’t even get enough for an ad, how can we continue to give our hard earned money to Hillary. Once this is over, the Clintons will still be rich. Patti Solis Doyle, who defected to Obama, screwed up her campaign money. Also, have you read that Hillary’s campaign was sabatouged not only from without, but from within. I, too, do not think she will be supported at the Convention unless *61 implodes. It’s the only thing we can hope for as they are all drinking the kool-aid.
Hillary did good job. fought hard but has come around. they proud of her and feeling the love. his turn now
#142 Taffy Andrea Mitchell used to work on President Clinton’s staff (can’t remember her position right now). If I recall, a month or two ago her husband wrote a scathing article re: Senator Clinton. I don’t remember the details but I seem to recall it was pretty bad.
Sad…
diva2
… P.S. Will, someone, please tell BHO to keep his lips off her cheeks and his hands off her bod…
She symbolizes The President of the United States to millions of voters, not his “Introduction Sweetie”.
so that was bit with chair…her feet wouldn’t reach ground and bo told her it would fall over if she sat on it. GET HER A CHAIR!!!!!
#191 Trish,
Sorry I was out surfing. Those comments were lifted from Daily Kos.
#213 Delray Beach Resident
I’m not so sure – I’ve been contributing to Hillary but after today somehow I lost hope, I don’t know what’s really going on, I just made my second donation to PUMA and will continue only to PUMA – I sincerely hope that something happens between now and Denver, but for now, this is it.
Of course I will never vote for Barky, no matter what Hillary says, will continue doing what I’m doing to spread the word, and hope something gets done about the sickness at the DNC and media.
laughing cause “poor thing” has to stand in heat. but she has to stand by his side. Hmmmm
#197 Firebelle,
I wish you well and hope you get better soon, I’m in Bakersfield and we are at puple level here, god speed in your healing
TREEPUMA
#233 PULEEEZ!! I don’t think *61 was being gracious at all, he just about had to be strong armed into contributing the max to her. And I’ll bet Michelle had a hissy fit as she contributed too. They NEED HER, she only needs them for the $$. Don’t want to call you a troll as we try not to do that on this blog, but your comments are troubling.
Nobama where are you going I’m going upstairs to take a bath Nobama with legs like toothpicks and a neck like a giraffe Nobama got in the bath tub and pulled out the plug Oh my goodness! Oh my soul! there goes Nobama down the hole. Oh Nobama…….
thats purple level
#228 Anonymous…you might have to access the link from the MSN.com homepage. The article “Clinton, Obama Share Stage in Unity” has the video links. Sorry my link wasn’t working for you.
I went back to read the PUMA goals because I wasn’t sure I remembered them correctly. I think we are stll support Hillary.
1. To support the candidacy of Hillary Clinton. Updated 6/7/08 — Hillary Clinton was forced to suspend her campaign because the DNC decided to select its preferred nominee, so we are not directly campaigning for her. We consider her to be the leader of the Democratic party and our members will continue to support her throughout this election cycle.
Food for Thought:
If any of you are attending democratic fundraisers around your area (i have been, for my local candidates) you are no doubt always surrounded by the kool aid drinkers. Please be sure to mention to the crowd that there is still a deep divide in the party, that many people are considering not voting in November or will not be voting for Dems, and that the Obama folks need to wake up and realize ALL the Dem candidates down-ballot may go down in flames if the party doesn’t recognize the need to truly face what has happened here.
I still support many of my state and local Dem candidates. Personally I’d hate to see these worthy candidates lose because of what the DNC and MSM did with Hillary’s campaign, and how that turned off so many of us (to put it mildly).
So please, remind them this is NOT in the bag just because they see BO as a winner and they think we’ll all jump on board at the last minute. They will have to work hard to get out the vote, and convince even those who won’t vote for Prez to at least vote for other worthy candidates in other races.
I spoke up in that way at an event the other night — in a cordial, not in a divisive or mean manner — but to let them know “how the other half lives.” They are so surrounded by their own kind, they really can’t conceive of how others are looking at this whole election.
bo humble and inspiring. never about himself…always the people of america or ones around him amazing example can learn a lot frrom him FEEL THE LOVE (Yuck)
ladyhawkke
Taffy is just doing a running narrative of what they are saying. Those are not her comments. She’s not a troll.
he is so gracious and genuine true leader an adult when so many stuck in dysfunction and childishness maturity and class needed by our leaders choked up by his humility mama and grandparents did such a good job raising him (excuse me..i need my barf bag)
Aout old school resistance (see #227 alohapuma), I think one way this is particularly true is in sending things to Washington DC via us postal mail. My congressperson, DeGette, said, in a talk about maybe 1.5 years ago, that it’s a really bad idea to write to Washington DC via snail mail because there are huge backlogs of mail going through the many security screenings mail goes through since the scares of ‘01. She illustrated the point that in August a Christmas card from a friend finally reached her. Assuming these security measures are still in place (probably are), the backlogs are even worse these days. If the flipflops and the bandaids and thank yous and other postal messages are going to DC, they won’t arrive until after the election. What a waste.
And just an idea for attending appearances (say, by either Clinton) where Obama’s name is mentioned: chant O BOOOOOOOO Ma, O BOOOOOOOOO Ma.. On hillbuzz (a blog), there was a report that the obama people chant Obama like the Wizard Of Oz little people change O WEEE O, that it’s spooky. A group saying O BOOOOOO Ma is going to sound like BOOs.
ok gotta go, hang tight PUMA’s if anything good comes from today perhaps it will be that some of the Obamabots will stop being so harrassing, and that will be a good thing.
What about his dusting his shoulder in reference to Hillary shaking off insults? How crass was that after he had used the same gesture in reference to his brushing her off and the real meaning of the gesture – brush the b*tch off – from the rap song?????
Hillary’s speech in Unity has made me sick at a very deep level.
Here is an analogy: After having had the crap beat out of you from your domestic partner for months, you get up and say ” Oh, that’s okay sweetie, here let me put you through College and get your career going for you. It’s on me”
Puke Squared!
I watched the CNN streaming live out of morbid curiosity. She gave a wonderful speech, but I was sad to hear it. I saw no PUMAs. Only people allowed to be seen had the “right” signs up. Saw some people wearing black though.
#208 I think you are right about doing something more constructive than helping Hillary retire her debt. (I did donate money to her website for that too, though.) It seems to me that if our goal is to defeat Obama, we’d better start supporting McCain financially.
About the Puma Pac fundraising campaign. First off, I will be a very small donor– no current income, gave way too much to Hillary, blah blah blah. But I will give something if I agree with the purpose. I was bothered by one of the two proposed ads we saw last week (the one people called “scary” with the white figure turning black) and don’t want to give money for that one. The first one was kind of dull too (about BO taking lobbyist money).
I say we go all the way with Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, Rezko and Bill Ayres – BO the typical Chicago pol, not the messiah. Bigticer on Youtube has pointed the way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdQcwtshh3w
I am getting very concerned that McCain is too gentlemanly to make those points and it is up to 527s like us to do it. Or maybe a punchy comparison of McCain’s character to Obama’s. Or maybe something funny about president Flip Flop. We need to get tough. Nobody cares about lobbyists.
On another note, I think we should do a Dump Brazille campaign to CNN. I am appalled that she passed herself off as “neutral” throughout the primaries and her recent messages to Hillary supporters, while the Party is talking “unity,” are *outrageous* coming from a representative of CNN.
I still want Hillary to take it to the Convention.
love his honesty directness forthrightness brilliance so REAL
2 more people just gave $25 and said don’t yell at them. it’s unity day
#256 goandersen – pukarama
I know. I felt the same way watching her. It was so painful.
#256 goandersen
Well said.
f*ck unity!
#234
Thumps up to Bill Clinton. Him and his wife really have taken enough. In fact he is acting like a true Puma. We will get over the insults when the obamabots find a way to apologize for the name calling and insults against the Clintons in particular and women in general.
(playing the race card against Bill Clinton was so nauseating).Now the medias keep asking(more theoratical) why Bill Clinton is not trumpetting is support for OB. Are they just so stupid, bunch of mediatic leaches.?
What is wrong everyone? Hillary has asked us to help pay down her debt. She is not asking for the 11 million that she and Bill had to loan her campaign. She is asking for the rest. Isn’t that the least we can do? This woman gets up every day of her life and fights her best fight for us and this country. I know we are not rich, but this is the least we can do. I can only donate $5 to $10 at a time, but it is something.
We sure do not want Hillary going to the convention in debt. She will be the laughing stock if she does not get this debt paid off. It doesn’t really matter if someone in her campaign messed up her finances, the point is that the debt exists and needs to be paid. She has asked us to help her pay it. That is enough for me. I will help do that for her to the best of my ability.
I sure hope to God that you all do too after everything that her and Bill have done and are still doing for us and our country.
attacking hillary supporter and laughing telling him if he is this angry now just wait til he president
#256 goandersen… Yes, know the drill!
This one too good. had to copy
By Patrice from Gardena, CA Jun 27th 2008 at 1:55 pm EDT
I would like to ask a question without getting jumped on. And I also want to state before anyone calls me a troll that I have supported Senator Obama since 2004 and arranged informational meeting for him in California
My question is why is it in the last few days that if anyone has a different opinion regarding the Clintons that they are made to feel bad.
Now I realize we all have to move on in order to unify the Democratic Party but this use to be a blog of respected opinions and information.
We may not have agreed with one another but it was done with respect.
Just a question and I do support Obama 150%.
#265 KarlaforHillary… I think of it ($) as planting seeds for the “harvest”.
To bad she didn’t stand up there and say kiss my grits I think she did what she had to but won’t go beyound what she did today I am sure the obots will yell her and Bill need to stump for him .Who’s the puma on msnbc? Shes good
What a difference in the two speeches! Hillary’s was warm and articulate. BO’s was slow, strained and out right boring. I still am trying to figure out where his fake southern accent comes from. Probably ordered from the same place as GW’s Texas one. Too many “gonna..duh…um…uh”’s His shouting at the end seemed to be there to wake everyone up. I think he has been to a pep rally or two in order to practice. He seemed very unprepared and was taken aback by all of the chants for Hillary. Not what he is used to I am sure.
I think she one upped him on this one even though she was trying(kind of blandly) to push his tainted campaign forward.
She did what she had to do and I hope she can make an exit from campaigning for him.
I can’t wait for the MSM spin. I am sure they saw something different than I saw!
PUMA’s
We should band together,it is a good thing that there are so many Anti BHO/DNC sites but the one thing is that we do not have an accurate count of supporters at this point or a single point of contact.
We are fighting a political machine in washington right now that “OWNS” washington, the Media and has an unlimited source of funds!
If we do not “Band” together in some way and get the message out to the people that we are for real, then we will never “really” get this ball rolling like we should.
Remember there are 330 million people in the USA, I figure right now we have a solid 3 million+ behind us, but if we can grow that number 5X then we will be bigger than the BHO hype itself!
I dread the though that BHO may actually win this election, I fear for this countries safty and stability going into the future.
Please, do everything in your power to recruite support, not support just for Hillary, but support that if we continue to let this corrupt election process continue.
I cannot believe the “FACT” that this election stinks to high heaven of treason yet the MSM is getting away with dismissing these “FACTS” as “bitter Hillary supporters” that will some how “get over it”!
This is much bigger than Hillary and this election. We must hold the DNC’s feet to the fire. They selected BHO, and in my personal opinion, there is no Democratic or Republican parties, it is all really just a bunch of DC Elite that have enough money to manipulate the MSM.
Perception is key in this day and age, we have all been guilty at some level of lazyness. We need to inform the SHEEPLE out there that the RNC and DNC cannot continue corrupting elections as they have for the past 8 years!
Please Tell a friend (rep, ind or dem) about PUMA and what we are really fighting for
FAIR ELECTIONS!
It was clear that Obama knows he needs both Hillary and Bill to win in November. My question is this – since Hillary does not need Obama to win in November, what the f*ck is wrong with Dean and Pelosi?
I’m really angry today, just in case I am not coming across.
And the response
By Becky now totally hopeful in Iowa! Jun 27th 2008 at 2:07 pm EDT
I can’t give you an answer but I can say that I’m appalled at how the Thought Police have invaded this blog in the past few weeks.
I’ve been posting here since April of 2007 and–suddenly–I see people being ridiculed for expressing doubts, for not cheering “rah rah team” incessantly, for pointing out areas of concern re: Obama’s positions and actions, for, in general, being sentient, rational human beings rather than robo-supporters.
It’s disappointing.
#255 dragonfly
I thought exactly the same thing when he brushed off his shoulders. I think he intentionally tries to be an arrogant a– without being too obvious. I don’t know how anyone could vote for this guy.
After an exciting day of UNITY, I am so excited. I guess we should jump to BHOs side and forget all our beliefs and principals.
I suppose that we will have several months of the unity garbage so we need to hang tight.
I support Hillary — I will vote McCain — but it will be a cold day in hell before I join the BHO lunacy!!!!
We MUST change the formerly democratic party!!
#256 goandersen
THAT’S IT!
that’s what I can’t get over!
what message does that give to people being abused to an obscene level and then having to publicly support the abuser?????
makes me sick
Hillary must be very strong, committed to the DNC, I can’t imagine what she must be going through.
For this Barky should pay off all her debt and then some.
KarlaforHillary,
Well you put it out there in a much clearer fashion. There must be some savvy Internet marketers among us who could design a campaign that would attract a lot of small donations.
A lot of small donations sends a VERRRYYY powerful message. It’s the one*61 sent that got them listening.
#274 Taffy – I’m just catching up after a client meeting. What blog are you getting the comment from? where are the thought police becky mentioned?
Help Hill pay off debt –
1) $2 from each of the 18 million will be $36 million. How to get the mesage thru, how to collect?
2) Thought her most active donors base was about 300,000. Each donates $100 would help her pay off too. How to get the message thru?
Rock is a healing salve on a rebels hart. I liked singing Dream on out load in my house just now. Thanks.
OK shampoovta wipe the tears away take the pain and put it in a little box and hide it away. Break glass on the V for Vendetta mask.
On your mark get set GO!
KarlaforHillary #265
I agree with you. I have no problem giving money to Hillary. To me it is a constant signal sent directly to Hillary that I still want to see her as our next President.
Pure and simple.
I tried to get my attorney on board and ask emailed him if he is a BO supporter. He said “why yes.” and goes on about feeling better about fresh blood rather than another 4 years of Bush. So are there any legal guys among us ?
I am sure that anti BO folks have already looked into the birth cert thing.. It would be a heavenly coup but I think at this point it is just grasping at straws… it would make a great fantasy that all 18 million would love.
What great things shall we accomplish this weekend ?We need to do more… I am contacting a serious ton of people this weekend, like it or not.
Don’t watch MSM today or you will scream at Tv if anything watch Countdown on MSNBC
#277 bruce555 – agreed. Has anything like this ever been done in politics after a heated primary? I can’t remember anything like it. I’m so disgusted and sad on her behalf. I hope the flowers we sent her cheered her up.
I see the nickname *61 mentioned frequently. What does that mean?
I see fox news coming up in a minute are showing Clinton supporters
fred 283 – I’m a lawyer but haven’t looked into the birth certificate thing. Sadly a lot of my lawyer friends are drinking kool-aid. it’s so depressing.
#265 karlaforhillary
I wish I could agree with you, but I cant. She also asked us to support Barack Obama for President.
By the time we pay down her debt she will have done her job and made many appearences with Bo.
Just my opinion.
That “fresh perspective” propaganda is really weird! I do not understand how educated people buy this nonsense!!!
#265 Karla
Well done! I couldn’t agree more and have also been asking people.
Why don’t we take care of the issue once and for all. Then it is done and finished and we keep fighting.
I am not donating to PUMA until Hillary’s debt is paid. I contribute whenever I can.
1 mil people at $20.08 gets it done.
Watch Fox right night, they apparently are going to be interviewing someone who attended the unity rally and is NOT united with noname. Hope it is one of us!! Dick Morris will also be on — I just ignore him.
#227 alohapuma This is my thought. As long as Senator Clinton has the debt hanging over her head (I am just talking about the 10million or so that was not hers) then her hands are tied. She HAS to do what he wants to do. Her hands are tied because of the fed regulations on contibutions. If we, et al can pay off her debt, then it gives her alot more flexibility and independence.
What we need are the big donors to help find people who will match our donations and/or find people to give the maximum. They know how to find money, we don’t. We don’t have large resources but we do have some. Also, as many of you have suggested if we get a certain number of people to donate even a small amount of money, collectively, it could add up to alot. For example, if everyone who is a member of all the other grassroot organizations for Senator Clinton and everyone from other pro-Hillary groups like NOW to donate we certainly could put a dent in her debt.
The difficulty is that every group is competing for $$ but even if everyone split the difference i.e. $25 for PUMAs and $25 for Senator Clinton, it would help.
We could set up a separate thread JUST for that and then ask other groups to participate. PLUS it gets other people to visit this site.
Does anyone have other ideas? One other thing… does anyone know if we buy items like tshirts, etc. from Senator Clinton’s website if that counts against our $2300 as a donation or not? Also, any idea what percentage of profit can go toward her campaign on the things we sould buy. People could buy tons of promotional, give them out at shelters, in malls, whatever but we would be helping lower her debt without breaking any contribution regs.
Other thoughts??
diva2
#251 Sorry Taffy. Misinterpreted your comments.
said don’t like dan abrams said only thing good andrea mitchell said was “Hillary couldn’t ever pretend to be the kind of speaker Barack Obama is”
The most evil man that ever lived made this statement: Sooner will a camel pass through a needle’s eye than a great man be ‘discovered’ by an election
Goodness, dear Pumas, I’m not getting any real work done today. Oh well. Hillary needs our support.
Our friend Donna sent me another reply. So I share with you first her email, then my response. Enjoy …
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For the record, I have not endorsed anyone. And for the record, I supported, defended both candidates. And for the record, I am no longer willing to entertain hate mail.
If you dislike Obama, move on. But do not expect me to support you.
Have a great weekend.
Donna
PS: just because some asshole decided to post our address does not mean we welcome the level of vile and vicious emails coming from strangers. I spent countless years as a dem activists electing men and women from all different walks of life. But never in my life has any hate mails been sent without warrant.
One thing for sure, the Obama folks normally stop sending when I state get over it. Please be respectful.
I am very passionate as well. And I try to stay calm.
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Dear Ms. Brazile,
I’m sorry this election has been so difficult for you. You’re right. It’s not fair that you and others have been bombarded by hate mail. I wouldn’t like it in your position either.
Unfortunately, it’s a reflection of our political process, which has long been about win-lose, not win-win. Our country could be so great, and we could accomplish so much, if our politicians played win-win.
I would love it if Senator Obama was someone whom I trusted to play win-win. I would vote for him in a heartbeat, because his stated policies are so much closer to my own beliefs than are Senator McCain’s. I was suitably impressed by Senator Obama when I first saw him in a debate last December. I sincerely wished that Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards could go to the White House together.
My respect for Senator Clinton has steadily increased over the last six months. However, in those same six months, Senator Obama has repeatedly behaved in ways that generate dislike and distrust. Where once I respected him, I now find him scary. Where once I listened closely and receptively to what he had to say, I can no longer stand listening to him. I came into this with no preconceived attitudes toward Senator Obama and certainly no racial prejudice. My feelings today are solely based on what I’ve observed in Senator Obama over the last six months.
You may not wish to hear this, but I’ll share a bit of wisdom anyhow. The more you respond to Hillary supporters by saying “Stop the hate,” the more we perceive Senator Obama and the DNC as being standard-bearers for hate. Perhaps it would serve Senator Obama and the DNC better if you responded with concrete reasons why he would be the best President. Not with fear-mongering, by the way. We’re not persuaded by arguments about McCain’s faults. Right now, we see him as the lesser of two evils. Show us instead, if you’re able, why Senator Obama might be a good choice.
Thank you for your consideration.
P.S.: If I can make your day a little easier, I’ll share something I was taught years ago as a basketball referee. I was lamenting to a friend about how the fans booed the refs, no matter how good and fair a job we did. He told me that part of the price of admission when fans bought their tickets was the right to boo the refs. It didn’t make me like being booed any better. But it put it in perspective, and helped me better enjoy the game.
As a superdelegate, you’re kind of like a referee. You may not like being booed, but it’s part of the game. When fans (i.e., voters) buy their tickets (i.e., register to vote), part of the price of admission is the right to boo the refs (i.e., express our dissatisfaction with our elected officials.) You don’t have to enjoy it, but it’s still important feedback about the direction our country is going.
Hillary Rocks Mr. OBama but not because you say it. She shines because she has a light that comes from within that you will never have no matter what you say or do.
You can say or do whatever you want to but nothing will change our minds about you. We don’t like you and never will. We will never be fooled by your empty promises and hollow rhetoric. An our dislike has nothing to do with race.
#44 alohapuma on 06.27.08 at 2:33 pm, WROTE,
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I’m going to ask this again….
I beleive Hillary can still be the nominee. Does anyone agree?]]
I think it very unlikely. There would have to be something of major import to come to the fore, and just prior to the Convention. Now, I am not talking about an assination or anything like that… but something like Larry Sinclair’s claim that BHO did cocaine just a few years ago and that they were in a homosexual relationship would damage BHO emensely. Then the delegates at the Convention might switch their vote back to her and nominate her. And from what I have gleaned in from the web and YouTube Videos, it is something like that or this Michelle “whitie” statement that just might do it. Either one of those two might be the October surprise, everyone talks about.
June 17, 2008
YouTube – I’m willing to die to expose that Devil Obama.
Manning calls BHO an emissary of the devil.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4TEbIPOHNBQ
Monday, June 16, 2008 – 1:22 PM MDT
Denver police turn to SWAT for help with DNC
Denver Business Journal
“Denver police are buying 88 crowd-control guns, ammunition and accessories from less-than-lethal weaponry maker Security With Advanced Technology Inc. in advance of the Democratic National Convention in August, the company reported.”
http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/stories/2008/06/16/daily10.html
Another quote…they arguing over whether this is a test for vp slot. seems they divided about 50-50 on idea
I honestly don’t think Obama will offer Hillary the VP spot. Ted Kennedy gave such an impassioned statement about how Hillary would not be appropriate for Barack’s vice-president. He went on to say that Barack will pick someone who will carry on the noble aspirations for the country that Barack has put forth, or something to that effect.
Since the Kennedy’s handed Barack the mantle of the Kennedy presidential legacy, for all intents and purposes, I really think Barack will choose someone for VP who will further honor that legacy.
I gave sixty to Hillary last night I can’t give any more so next week my eighteen year old grandson will give about $500.00 he going to clean my car to earn the money since he is a full time student . I still think she can write a book and she’ll be fine and that Obama should pay down her debt if he want’s her out in the hot sun isn’t just like any other job a man does he gets the glory and the money she has to be his slave.And I don’t mean that in a racist way But look around who gets to clean the toilets in this world. I wish I could talk to the eighteen and twenty year old women in thirty years and see if they would have voted different if they only knew.
Puma Cats,
Swiss and German News are buying the farce …, kind of!
Murphy and all…ALERT…go to Chicago Sun times, click on “Rezko Pal Weinstein Indicted”..go to: Comments..read John Ryskamp….WHAT IS GOING ON HERE??? How can this not be all over the media??Is this Ryskamp fellow credible? If any of this is true and it is not reported on …we ‘the people’ are in serious trouble.
#220 mayor0102 – I’m in the Seattle area too. I would love to join your Washington email group. Tell Murphy to give you my gmail address.
Thanks.
I just rewatched the videos of today…Hillary actually smiled and jestered with her hands in a “come on” action while referring to those that may vote for McCain that had supported her.
In fact, she mentioned voting for him (MC) just a few minutes before, something that is not usually stated by any candidate to state to vote for the opposition.
Also while *61 spoke, she stood tall, not smiling often…her body language is “this is not over yet!”
Please, am I right or wrong? Go PUMAS!!
well didn’t show us.Yet they had mentioned earlier oh well
uh oh McCain in it again. Poor joke gone wrong. they eating it up
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/27/mccain-makes-awkard-wife_n_109576.html
I’ve got to sign off for now.
#243 tree
Thank you so much for your support. Sorry for the delayed response. I was distracted by trying to write a polite but effective response to our friend Donna.
Now CNN talking about internet groups who are not buying unity .
Taffy:
I don’t think you make for a good puma.
Hang around though. I don’t mind. But be assured that you won’t get much sympathy for Obama here.
Everyone, please remember this — Had Hillary gotten the nomination, Obama supporters would not vote for her in November. There is soooo much angst against Hillary from these Obama supporters. So why then do they expect us to vote for him now???
PUMAS — we CANNOT sit it out in November nor just write in Hillary. Doing that would allow Hussein to win. We need to do everything in our power to prevent this anti-American from taking the White House, and to do that, we will have to VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN. There is no other way to tell the DNC, MSM, and Hussein that what they did in the primaries was unacceptable than to help McCain win.
#265 KarlaforHillary…. P.S. Everyone (about paying off her debt:
Do we remember one of the main reasons we are so angry???
Hillary was not only having to fight the MS Media’s lack of coverage – but negative coverage on everything they could throw at her – not only affecting her fundraising (January – “It’s over”) but her ability to get her message out there!
BHO’s camp caused the race-hate filled headlines – not she and Bill!
Now they accuse HER of “mismanaging her campaign funds”.
It was DIRTY, it still is DIRTY. Tha’s why it is the right thing to do to help her pay off the debt – she contributed her money to try and equalize that gross imbalance!
Plus, she was the candidate to the less-affluent that “Brazile” now says she is for… my a_ _s!
Okay Ms. Brazile… where were you in the fight for the levees and the people of New Orleans….. BEFORE Katrina hit???
Sorry, I thought Fox said they were going to have someone on re: that the dems are NOT united. Maybe it will come later or mayb it was only Morris — sorry!!
I absolutely believe she can, all she needs is enough delegates to have doubts about voting for noname and vote for her in Denver. She already carries alot of delegates from the primaries, we and others need to convince the SD’s to chnage their minds.
diva2
diva2
Hillary was our candidate — and remains our candidate. I think that she backs BHO because she must in this insane political world.
In my mind, she is preparing to 2012.
I will help her to pay down her debt — and I hope others here will also!!!
Any first hand reports from PUMAs who were in UNITY today?
I missed the televised version….
he believes in people so refreshing
one woman said she gave birth wearing his 1 in a million t shirt for real!!!!!
#275 karlaforhillary – to me the brush off was a subtle reminder of male hatred and violence toward women. It felt sinister after everything we have seen and heard on MSM this primary season.
Your right NoMoreINFL
brainstorming.
Is Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, iconically Lady Liberty?
I think yes.
We still need to hold our cards and wait for the Convention.
Fight for Hillary, Fight for Liberty.
(in a peaceful way of course)
284 Taffy on 06.27.08 at 4:13 pm Don’t watch MSM today or you will scream at Tv if anything watch Countdown on MSNBC
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You are kidding right? Kieth Olberman is a DISGRACE and is totally in the TANK ofor BHO,
Nothing personal but, are you a troll for BHO?
I will never forget when Olberman said
“Is someone going to have to take Hillary into a back room and only one of them come out?”
This POS is dispicable and Chris Matthews has gone “GAY” for BHO, He gets tingling sensations up his leg when BHO speaks? He closes his eyes and thinks about BHO?
I have the videos if you need to see for yourself, I am serious MSNBC and CNN are 100% “in the tank” for BHO!
BTW, it makes sense with MSNBC that is owned by GE, that is “dealing with Iran, that BHO is “Ready to have discussions with “WITHOUT” preconditions??????
Iran has threatend to eliminat are closest ally in the area Israel, isnt this a conflict of interest?
Why has MSNBC oir GE not been “called out” on this?
Why has the MSM never been questioned about the fact that they “did not start properly vetting BHO until it was “Mathmatically” Impossible for her to win!
apparently he did give her a hug. they laughing how she ran off stage
#247 dcinvegas
That’s cool. Like Pookie said HBO is going down the drain.
speech supposed to re-air at 8 est on c span
#311 drgav although I don’t think anyone reads my posts I believe we should listen to you because you are right on the money because a write in vote I believe will go for Nobama
Okay Ms. Brazile… where were you in the fight for the people of Chicago living in Rezko/BHO’s endorsed and funded properties….. When the Electricity was turned off in the dead of winter???
Sorry, one more comment. Whenever anyone says something about Senator Clinton’s ability to manage her money, I just recall the $110 million dollars that her and President Clinton made in the past several years and of that the $33 million they gave in taxes!! That is the most ignorant argument I have heard!! Noname only gave the minimum they had to pay in taxes and instead put theri money toward the $10,000 in piano lessons for their daughter!!
diva2
Come visit my website forum for a moment and see a thread I put up about BHO’s anti tobacco legislation. I’ve found a couple of online graphics of him smoking up until mid-way through the primaries… Which shows me that he will do anything to win and that what he does is always because of political expediency.
Just take a look and download the graphics.
http://www.cosmeta.com/_Forums/view_topic.php?id=1330&forum_id=57
#310 max and all – don’t be hard on taffy, she is reporting back, not speaking her own opinion.
Don’t help pay off Hillaty’s debt. Let Obumbus do it. She will be fine right now. If you are going to donate do it here. We need it for ads and to help Hillary.
By the way, dear Pumas, don’t be fooled by my polite response to our friend Donna (#295). I’m only playing nice, like Hillary is. I’m with Pumas all the way. Go Pumas.
I think it was gut-wrenching to watch this charade today. But remember, Hillary is smart and strategic and she knows she may have to step in at any time when this clown falls. She is utterly Presidential. And he knows it!!!!! How can he sleep at night?!
BTW, whoever set that stage today blew it…they should have had two chairs up there, not ONE high chair that was obviously too difficult for someone of average height, like Hillary, to get up onto in front of a crowd….
They also should’ve had H2O available to Hill. Hello? Looked hot there. Picky, picky, I know, but I used to do this stuff for a living and so these details make me crazy. Pet peeve.
Hi Puma’s,
I have been away for a while but what is the deal with Obama’s Birth certificate?
#319 PumaAllie
I am not allowed to attend any events.
I am cheering, screaming, and jumping for Hillary and booing HBO, from the chair in my living room. I am peacefully using sign language. (Sorry, I had to say that).
PUMAs
123 PUMAs!!! GO PUMAs!!!
Ms. Brazile… you are about as concerned for “We, The People” as BHO and the DNC is for 18 million Voters.
#326 diva2… don’t forget the 23,000,00 the Obama’s gave to Trinity Church.
#302 mccaindemo
Ryskamp sure seems to know what he or she is talking about. I don’t think they could have possibly made all of that up, do you? That is scary, and I am sure that it won’t all come out until it is too late.
The obvious reason for the ‘high’ chair is because Nobama is a post turtle I am so proud of Hillary for not ’sitting down’ for him
#320 Hillary DID win.
And against the mathematics. 
they say she is with them and most of her supporters are too. mostly very positive comments about her speech. someone suggested wouldn’t it be great for “him” to have his 8 years then go to supreme court lots of support for this
#329
Agreed and if Bo pays her debt its less money he will have to spend on his campaign.
Thats if she is not the nominee.
Has anyone heard from any of the Puma’s that attended the circus today?
#324 Pookie This was discussed in depth at Senator Clinton’s website before it was ravaged. EVERY state is different. In some states, IF you write in someone’s name the vote will automatically go to the nominee for that party. You have to call your state and get the specific info. on this. That is why so many people say they will vote for MCCain. Because it then is two votes against noname.
One vote is the one he lost because you didn’t vote for him and the other one is the one you gave to McCain.
It can be VERY risky just writing in someone’s name unless you are absolutely clear how your state handles write-ins. The last thing you want to do is to automatically have a write-in vote go to noname.
I wish I had all the info. we had at the old website. It was very helpful
diva2
Hillary’s debt is a non-issue if it doesn’t exist.
We need to get that done and move on.
$$ from BO don’t come without strings. We see that on a daily basis.
#325 wontbackdown – you said it. It makes me sick to see him act as if he is for the people when his own neighbors lived in a 3rd world country
By the way Pookie, your posts are read, I read them.
Another quote to analyze
Yes, they “look” good together. Yes, she “sounded” good today. But she still has too much baggage. She still brings too much to the table that he will have to answer to and she still has very, very high negatives. We must keep our eyes on the ball. Win, win, win. You see how much work he did to bring up his numbers in the polls so far before she publicly supported him. He is bending over backwards just to get that. Can you imagine what he would have to do to keep the peace with her if she was on the ticket. I wonder how much of his support for the FISA amendment is to keep her on his side so far?
#336 Pookie
You got that right! LOL!
A puny post turtle at that.
332 anonymous
I know the feeling, I am too far away I have to do the same and send my support the best way I can.
I was also thinking of the icon itself. Senator Clinton is the New York Senator, and I think that the focus should be more on what democracy, and the Democratic principles mean to us, until the convention.
If BO gets the nomination then and only then is the fight lost, but then people can decide what they want to do.
Just my 2c.
#329 sandipuma I for one, believes that there is enough for both…Hillary’s debt and PUMA’s growth.
Who we need to ask to give especially to PUMA; are the donors that have supported other PACS. They can only give a certain amount and would love to give.
#317 Dragonfly
I agree with your interpretation of the brush-off.
Fellow PUMA’S, I was just on NoQuarters and there is an interesting article re: Obama being indicted maybe before the convention. Fitzgerald is trying to get a tight case against him. Also, I just saw on another web site I can’t remember which one, but after Obama gave Hillary the check last night MSNBC says that she in turn gave a similar check to him. I don’t know how true this is since I do not ever watch MSNBC.
Firebelle Puma
Your responses to Donna are so great and to the point. Keep her on her toes.
another quote (I love this one!)
I’m still not so sure that Clinton(s) would make it through the vetting process. and IF they did, and IF Barack chose Hilary, I’m not so sure that she could do the VP role too well… JMHO, she is an intelligent, powerful lady and is used to being in charge. I think she could be more powerful staying in the Senate.
But no matter who Barack chooses, I know it will be the prefect choice for his goals as POTUS… and I will support the “Ticket”
I think the Clinton’s are “hoodwinkin” the No Name.
Has anyone else got any videos or audio from any of the PUMA’s at the event today?
The link I posted above does include 1 interview, but I haven’t heard anything else at all or seen the news.
good letter Firebelle
they want hillary to campaign for him in pa oh wva and in put bill in tx arkansa and the south
Dear Pumas, don’t let anyone get you down when they criticize Hillary’s management of campaign finances.
One, Hillary knows how to “do more with less.” Hillary got far more votes per dollar spent than Obama did. (She also got far more votes per contact made, as measured by attendance at rallies.)
By extension, Obama is fiscally wasteful. He squanders money. (He’ll squander our tax dollars too if he becomes President, because he’s so ineffective.)
Two, as any business person knows, it takes an investment in capital to get any venture off the ground. Sometimes that means going into debt. Were it not for the unfair tactics of Obama and his ilk, Hillary would have emerged the winner and her investment judged wise and sound. She didn’t do anything wrong. It’s the unfair tactics of her opponent that forced a greater investment than would otherwise be necessary.
#345 thanks because I really love this site because I love Hillary It is just most of my post’s are not as interesting as the majority. But I am like Hillary I will keep posting (LOL)
that was at post #229 by the way.
FOX is going to have someone on in a minute regarding not supporting *61, even after today!!
I don’t even CARE if McCain takes away my reproductive rights, or if he called his wife a c***, or if he will nominate judges that hurt women’s rights.
AT LEAST HE ISN’T A SEXIST LIKE THE DNC IS.
Take that, Obama and DNC. DID YOU HEAR ME I SAID TAKE THAT.
I don’t care if the country – no, the world – suffers for four years of a McCain. ITS TIME TO TEACH A LESSON TO THE DNC YOU CAN’T BE SEXIST NO YOU CAN’T.
I’m voting for McCain. And there’s NOTHING anyone can do to stop me.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
Recently Unsealed Court Documents Confirm Obama Heavily Embroiled in Rezko Case »
By Un coup de desclose Author: Un coup de des Name: Un coup de des Un coup de des
“According to today’s edition of the Chicago Sun-Times, “Barack Obama’s name could have been invoked more at the corruption trial of his former fund-raiser Tony Rezko.” But prosecutors instead chose to focus on the first target of Fitzgerald’s probe: convicted slumlord and notorious Chicago political fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the man who helped Obama purchase his Kenwood mansion in 2005.”
there we are on fox
I think we should take the money and pay Rev Manning and find out what the goods are. haha kidding
Fox right now!!
Fox has PUMA uy on now
Frankly, I don’t know why there are comments on here today about NOT helping to pay down Hillary’s campaign debt!!! and, yes, PUMA’s objectives are to support Senator Clinton’s campaign, to continue to support Senator Clinton!!! Obviously, we want to attack the DNC, Pelosi, Dean, Donna B., etc. Just as obviously, we want to contact as many of the SDs as possible and try to influence them to either continue to vote for Senator Clinton or to examine the facts and switch to Senator Clinton. We want to support Senator Clinton being on the roll call vote that is the tradition of the DC at the convention and see if we can help to get more of the SDs to vote for her.
I, frankly, am sick of hearing about the “birth certificate”. I just don’t see how anything can be proven about that; and if it can be proven, then hopefully somebody who knows a lot more about how to do that is working hard on it right now. I believe that my time and power is best served by writing daily to each and every person I can think of to continue to support Senator Clinton, NOT to vote for Nobama.. to vote for McCain if Nobama does turn out to be the nominee of the DC.
Until the convention has come and gone, I will continue to believe that it is possible for Hillary Clinton to become the nominee. If each and every one of us works for that, it could happen. I am just as resolved though, if that does not happen, to vote my first vote of my life.. approximately 42 years voting, for a Republican.. John McCain. It makes good sense to me because I have more respect for S. McCain than I could ever think about having for Nobama.
I want Senator Hillary Clinton to be POTUS now. I want HRC to be the nominee of the Democratic Party.. if the Democratic party can find their a** with both hands and do the right thing!!!
But if that does not happen.. I am absolutely, totally, 100% committed to doing everything in my power to elect Senator McCain over Nobama for POTUS.
wow he was good. he did us justice
lotts1948 – I agree with you – I still have hope Hillary can be our nominee for POTUS.
#368 lotts1948
AMEN–me too.
#368 I agree
HILLARY IN ‘08
I am so angrey and saddened by today’s FARSE on the stage. CzechlesNOBAMAia showed her no respect. I will never forgive him, and i will vote for McCain because SLOWBAMA just hasn’t played fair. I don’t care what McCain believes in. When your husband cheats on u i dont’ think many peopel care about the revenge guy believes in.
353 Taffy on 06.27.08 at 4:36 pm another quote (I love this one!)
I’m still not so sure that Clinton(s) would make it through the vetting process. and IF they did, and IF Barack chose Hilary, I’m not so sure that she could do the VP role too well… JMHO, she is an intelligent, powerful lady and is used to being in charge. I think she could be more powerful staying in the Senate.
But no matter who Barack chooses, I know it will be the prefect choice for his goals as POTUS… and I will support the “Ticket”
___________________________________________
YOU ARE A TROLL
I have research the accusations about HRC and just like Whitewater they have “ALL” been debunked!
It is the corrupt MSM that has “painted” this “bogus” picture of the CLintons over the past 15 years!!!!
It makes sense, they are “NOT” from DC and do “NOT” have the DC political machine behind them, they are from Arkansas.
The whole concept of the “Clinton Machine” is flawed! I do not but it!
It is the MSM that has given BHO a “freepass” several dozen times (i have 50 and counting), Why?
It is the MSM that waited until it was impossible for HRC to win before they started vettiung BHO, Why?
I say that BHO, the DNC and the MSM need to be investigated for TREASON!
BHO is a LYING, HYPOCRITICAL, RACIST that supports TERRORISTS DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN
324 Pookie on 06.27.08 at 4:26 pm
[[ #311 drgav although I don’t think anyone reads my posts I believe we should listen to you because you are right on the money because a write in vote I believe will go for Nobama]]
I try to read all the posts here… but can’t always get to them in time to respond before a new page is opened.
I don’t think the write ins will be handed to BHO, but they will not have any effect if the majority of her supporters vote for BHO. Better to vote for McCain or Nader, to help stop BHO’s momentum on Nov 4th. IMO
At least I will rest easy knowing that I tried to get a real PATRIOT elected.
Okay, I just gave some to Puma, and going over to give some to John McCain.
lotts1948-I’m with you 100%
the birth certificate is getting very old-let it alone-who cares-if the issue is legitimate believe me someone will find that out-
Hillary has asked us to help pay down her debt-why would we not want to do that if we can-it would free her of any obligation to Obama’s camp and of course that is a good thing-even 5$ is important
#302 mcaindemo – looks like there is some credibility to the story. John Ryskamp is an attorney and author. There are several references to this as well as this General Mediterranean group which supposedly is a cover up for the Syrian Mafia.
Why the media isn’t picking this up is interesting, considering the DNC former finance person was involved. Hmmmmmmmmmm
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-fundraisertrial-k,0,1356951.story
http://www.xanga.com/SwordAndSacrifice/662872555/federal-indictment-looms-for-obama.html
I’ll let you folks make your own decision.
I read all the post I want to slap taffy
cnn now
CNN website against obama
PUMA mentioned
Just saynodeal.com and puma
I don’t care what anyone says about his age, John McCain is Hot in my book ~ Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart, and the Distinguished Flying Cross. Check it out for yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Star
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_Merit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Heart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distinguished_Flying_Cross_(United_States)
His crowning legislative achievement was Campaign Finance Reform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain
http://www.johnmccain.com
I encourage you to help get John McCain elected, in any way that you can possibly help out. If this empty suit racist Chicago Politician gets elected, with his murky past and even murkier associations, we will rue the day.
Remember if you think someone is a troll let Murphy know by e-mailing her. Do not waste energy arguing.
bill and hillary gaves checks to bo
they mad at fox coverage too biased and using scare tactics
opinion seems to be put hillary on ticket if it will get bo in WH
actually posting very nice comments about hillary. several more have donated to her. Still think bo only one who can get country out of mess
sorry people all I can take. going for a shower. (I’d jump in the ocean if it were closer
)
sandipuma, tell us about the interview
if you think Taffy is a troll then just ignore those entries. Let’s not start that stuff up again -please-it is energy draining and just not useful.
Focus on our work-which is to wake up the DNC and get Senator Hillary Clinton nominated as she rightfully should be
They were websites against OBAMA………..
I will be back later have to do errands.GROWWWLLL GO (((((PUMAS)))))))
taffy, did your hazmat suit work at all???
#386 Taffy
Put your statements in “quotes” people think you are a troll!
thanks Taffy for checking it out so we didn’t have to
#302 mccaindemo
Here’s your link to that -interesting
http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/1028369,weinstein062708.article
Obama Flippin Out1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmBfmSTFWgU
It was on Fox News and I forget his name already but he did quite a good talk. He said he and we would never vote for Obama. If Hillary was not the candidate we would and he would vote for Mccain. He also said that Obama lies all the time and that the DNC went behind closed doors and cheated amnd picked Obama as they had anyway from the beginning.
Murphy! PUMAs! JUSTSAYNODEALers!
We made the latest edition of the Washington Post — check out the long article, below. Someone may have mentioned this above but I was so excited when I saw the article that I didn’t take the time to read the earlier blogs…..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/26/AR2008062604162_2.html?hpid=artslot
374 zombiefortruth on 06.27.08 at 4:51 pm
You seem really upset. I am sorry you are so emotional
I am trying to find a pic of Senator Clinton being sworn in as New York Senator so we could post it on here and imagine it is the Presidential oath she is taking. If anyone comes across one, please post it. OR if anyone can cut and paste one of President Clinton being sworn in and superimpose Senator Clinton in his place, I think it would be a very positive visual for us. This blog is about the extent of my computer experience.
Thank you to all and to the guy who was just interviewed on Fox!! This is absolutely awesome! Do ya think the DNC and noname is gettting the message yet?? WOO HOO!!
He mentioned Riverdaughters web-site . He mentioned more than one bad thing about Obama. He was great. I felt so proud of him. He also said when asked he didn’t care what Hillary is doing for Obama he would never ever vote for Obama
Here is a link to Puma’s on t.v. today and tonight
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/pumas-are-coming-on-lets-get-this-un-party-started/#comments
that dang chair.
you could see hillary pause and consider sitting there….uh, toooo high…and then again, the look on her face of “come on, girl; why sit there like a little puppy while the dude blathers on? It’s hot here but I’ll stand firmly in these awesome heels, thank you very much. ”
good for her!! standing on her own two feet. would we expect any less? she’s simply the best.
TAFFY IS A GOOD PUMA
Taffy is infiltrating enemy territory and is reporting on what is being said.
Chill out PUMAs. We need this information!
This is part of what he (john ryskamp) wrote
Obama’s indictment will be soon, under 18 USC 1346, the same section under which Rezko was convicted.
Obama’s indictment will be about the size of the phone book. Many, many charges. For example, Obama never wanted to buy a house: that was a front so Rezko could shield assets from casinos and GE.
In particular, Obama’s charges will focus on his boards legislation. His criminal role has been detailed by Evelyn Pringle. It is followed by a discussion of 18 USC 1346.
Can you believe how sleazy Obama’s supporters are, that they would ever support this moron flunkey of the Syrian mafia? Here’s Evelyn’s discussion….
THANKS sandipuma for the report.
Anyone have the video on the interview yet? I want to see it.
lol……………..first time I saw pink……liked the video.
I can’t wait to hear some stories about Unity NH.
Can you imagine that…..they had no cell service.
NOT ONE DIME WILL COME FROM MY HOUSEHOLD TO SUPPORT THE CURRUPT DNC AND ITS LEADERSHIP!! Let your Golden Boy raise the cash from his “small” donors!
I cannot in good faith support a candidate who has to rely on someone else’s ideas to prop up his weak, inexperienced, racist and fanatical empty suit. I fully intend on voting AGAINST any Democratic candidate who supported or supports this farce. In all the years I have voted I never thought those words would roll off my tongue. NEVER, before this debacle, would I have ever thought of not voting for a democrat. I can whole heartedly say that I am ashamed of the leaders of the democratic party.
Thank You,
James
A PUMA democrat
Ya know I guess I could unsubscribe from the Dem’s list, but it really is so much fun watching them beg for support. Plus there’s the bonus of getting to reply to their attempts to “unify” those of us who the were so quick to dismiss in the primaries.
re:243 hi TREE i live in shfter about 15 miles from Bakersfield!!!
Hey everyone watch Hannity and Comes tonight,
They are going to show how “PHONY” this unity thing was today!
hi guys i just got an email claiming to be from puma asking me to verify my email on some link im not posting the name till i find out if its legit i wont go to that link either until i hear from someone in admin who knows if this is an attempt to deceive /gather info ???
just a little concerned i just dont put anything past the trolls /
Re: Jon Stewart: Recap of Week of 6-23-08. Several clips of the week are presented. Please note Thursday’s clip comparing Bush & Obama. Hilarious!
http://www.thedailyshow.com/index.jhtml?kw=thedailyshow
410, hello neighbor, are you also in purple haze lol, sorry couldnt help myself, but are you on purple level also?
Kempion, please email me at
easternstatesdirector@gmail.com
#412 tec1965
Wise move. Murphy should be able to help you out if you email her.
beware #412 …..indeed those people have ZERO ethics about them…..Obama supporters have sent death threats congresswomen, journalists and political activists……clearly there are some not even remotely above criminal behavior!
hey PUMA’s.
I Love you guys and gals!
You make me feel proud.
#401 diva2… I believe there are pictures of her being sworn in on her Senate website.
hey can I have some feedback on the radio link please? Did anyone get it to work?
Wow! This is so cooool! Have you guys seen this yet? thsi wouldmake a great ad!
http://www.womenamericans.com/justsaynodealLOGO.htm
#368, Lotts 1948
The democratic party , right now even if they know that hussein is the wrong person& unpresidential , they have made such mess, thinking that they were having the most charismatic african-american(which he is not) candidate & it was going to be “the best of the most”,
and now
they have a problem @ africa-americans , that might react if their candidate might be taken away
and plus the media manipulation & soro, etc
@ all this, the party is at a “cul de sac”
therefore on behalf of the party & the media claque
we are not going to find anything about hussein´s “dirty cloth”
but
if anything happens before denver, will have HILLARY as candidate
on the other hand
the republicans are saving” it” for later, after hussein is officially nominated in DENVER, thus until then we are not going to have any clarity on the matter
Howard Dean mailed out a solicitation yesterday from the Dems asking for money. Many of you probably received it, too. So I downloaded the donation page, marked in the name slot (PUMA INDEPENDENT), address (WA). telephone # 1-800-PUMAPAC, donate 44, and wrote in 2 additional federal requirements under the 8 already there (I am a PUMA INDEPENDENT and I AM A WOMAN). Folded the donation letter with a 44 bill from our site and mailed it this AM with a stamped puma in gold on the back and an American Flag in the return address spot. It felt soooooooo good.
Pumas,
I think we should let Obama supporters pay off Hillary’s debt. They will have to, if they want to claim UNITY.
Think about it. They will have to put up or shut up.
It’s one way to make sure “they” pay. We can use our money elsewhere to help our cause.
#421 PAHILL08
AWESOME! That’s too cool.
We have a mascot. I think it needs a voice at all of the BO events. I am not up on the current state of electronic devices, but I was thinking how cool it would be to hear PUMA GROWLS in the street. Today it would have been great to hear Hillary’s name shouted and then followed by our mascot’s GROWL.
i don’t remember seeing it PumaAllie at 420
#424 nhforhillary
BO $$ always come with strings.
I love that we’ve had this passion for so long and could sustain it without stopping to stop and think. That’s what makes us strong, we think with our hearts and not with our heads.
mayor, you’ve got mail!
http://powerofpuma.blogspot.com/2008/06/song-for-hillary-1.html
comments please.
tech1965 #412 — the email you received is indeed from Puma PAC. We are required to ask for your confirmation that you would like to receive emails from Puma PAC (the Daily Growl, important announcements, etc.) before we can send them to you.
Thanks!
Puma Action Alert!
Need some ideas on what you would like to see included on the PP Action Center? We already have genral links to like minded websites/blogs, links to Youtube videos, letters, flyers, super delgate information, media contacts, and so on. Just looking for some more ideas about what members would like to see or have up over there as reference sources. You can email me directly at pa4hill08.puma@gmail or just post your ideas here on the blogs and I’ll try to follow along and make a wish list for the Action Center. Thanks for your ideas and ytour input!
Visit the PP Action Center today at:
http://pumapacusa.org
#432 murphy on 06.27.08 at 5:46 pm
Murphy!
Should I maybe put a note on the Action Center about this email verification process so Pumas know to expect it?
Copied from http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/pumas-are-coming-on-lets-get-this-un-party-started/#comments
Mawm, on June 27th, 2008 at 5:44 pm Said:
Everyone, thanks for your love and support. I feel like you guys are part of my family. Gary and I met some very wonderful PUMAs at this event. We also encountered some very ugly parts of the Obama campaign. Surprised?
I’ll be driving to NYC now, but Gary is going to try and post some of the video we got while we are on the road.
What a trip doing fox was. I thought I was going to blank as I waited for the cue in my ear piece then suddenly I heard the anchor, Cheryl ask me about PUMA, and all the passion just came flooding back.
I love you guys, and no matter what happens in this election, I hope we can stick together and keep bringing attention and our voices to the issues of our day. I know now fully that it is only when we stop speaking out that.evil can be perpetrated on us with impunity.
Go PUMA!
#401 I looked but maybe didn’t look enough. Thanks, I will revisit it!
What is your Song for Hillary? comment on the blog and also check out the link for the BBC interview with PUMA at the event today.
http://powerofpuma.blogspot.com
(not spamming, just want my PUMA friends to listen to the interview and say their favourite song)
NEW POLL STARTED TODAY guess they want to see if today’s unity thing changed anything PLEASE go vote:
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/27/aol-straw-poll-june-27-july-4/
431 PumaAllie – I heard the songs while the clip was going, but then I couldn’t get it to replay. Not sure what I did wrong . . . music sounded great though.
PA4HILL #434 that is an EXCELLENT idea!
try this link for the BBC interview.
scroll down and click play
http://pumaalliance.podbean.com/2008/06/27/bbc-news-at-unity-new-hampshire/
I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this, but CNN recently talked about PUMAPAC. When asked what the acronym stood, they said, “Party Unity My Ass”.
Dear Pumas, here is Donna Brazile’s latest email to me, followed by my reply. Enjoy …
******
Well, I am going to move on. There is too much hate, too much arrogance and too many people taking liberty to accuse others when they are just uninformed.
Have a great weekend.
******
Dear Ms. Brazile,
I am very much trying to be an informed voter, but Senator Obama doesn’t make it easy.
Like most voters, I don’t have time to study the issues in depth. Like many voters, I’m unimpressed by the policy statements the candidates post on their web sites, because they read more like press releases than articles of substance. Any good marketing person can write a decent press release, which may or may not accurately reflect the candidate.
I’m not swayed by television commercials or rallies. I do get some value from listening to surrogates. However, the one thing that really shows me what the candidates are made of is their performance in debates.
Senator Obama’s refusal to continue having debates with Senator Clinton was, in my mind, a huge tactical error. His refusal to agree to weekly town hall meetings with Senator McCain is an even bigger one. I’m willing to listen to what he has to say. I’m willing to compare the candidates. But if Senator Obama won’t debate John McCain, he’s making it clear that he doesn’t want my vote.
If you’re in a position to encourage Senator Obama to agree to the weekly town hall meetings, please do so. Help me be an informed voter.
Thank you for your consideration.
Maybe I am wrong and if I offend anyone please forgive me; Hillary knows that BO is not right for this nation there is a major reason why she is behind him. Either e she sees that the party has already decided the nominee which is 61 she knows this and is just is too tired to continue the fight or doesnot have the money to continue the fight or she knows that the VP spot is hers. She is too strong of a woman to allow the party to intimdate her so I believe there is somethingelse in the wind. I believe that she has moved on and so must we but still love, admire, and support her. Just like Hillary we will fight an uphill battle but if we stay focused we can meet our ultimate goal that is to reform the democratic process and stop 61. We are not alone and that is a good feeling.
# 439 Dragonfly
So what is your song for Hillary?
post it on that blog or here, either way is good.
I think everyone must have a song for Hillary.
Maybe we can get Elton John to donate “I’m Still Standing” for a retire Hillary’s debt, fundraiser.
He loves her for sure, as do we.
Diane, our Mistress of Mischief, at JustSayNoDeal.com has sent the following schedule of events:
ABC – POLITICS LIVE – INTERVIEW 215PM
Interview with MAWM! Neil Cavuto, FOX NEWS- 4:15pm
MSNBC – INTERVIEW 4:30pm
FOX BUSINESS NETWORK 7PM
CBS EVENING NEWS – 6PM
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Diane sas she is fielding calls from the media in Japan and Germany as well. Hot damn! The Viral has gone Global!
#438 Battle for the Hill has a link to a poll – just visited. McCain leading 62 percent to 38 for Obama. All the states are red except Vermont and DC.
#440 murphy… the posts are already getting way down here… what do think about another one for today a little later? maybe “Return of the PUMAS from Unity” so we can keep up with all the news, stories, links and comment posts a little easier?
So far:
38% OBAMA
62% MCCAIN
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/27/aol-straw-poll-june-27-july-4/
GO VOTE!
PUMAS – check out this website – part of JustSayNoDeal – great t-shirts – http://www.womenamericans.com/ – check it out – the PUMA growls…………………………..
Looks like our girl is still trying to get on the ballot. Check this out. Hold your nose, though, you’ll have to look at Obama.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/toddepp/gG55mv
Also, a blogger on hcsfjm. posted the following: Very interesting.
Date and Time June 27th, 2008 12:59 pm
User Name Gaylord in Chino, California
Subject Unity? How about Treachery? By Denise Ross
Comments Over at S.D. Watch, Todd Epp has reported a truly breath-taking story that has the potential to derail Barack Obama’s and Hillary Clinton’s big Unity push just as it’s beginning.
… the Clinton campaign offered a major fundraiser to the state (SD Dem) party in exchange for two superdelegate votes …
Todd promises more details, and I, for one, am waiting at the edge of my seat. Given what he’s reported so far, this seems to be an ongoing offer from Clinton rather than something that faded away after the June 3 primary.
An intra-party dispute erupted Thursday during the SD Dem Convention in Oacoma. Clinton delegate and Rapid City alderman Malcom Chapman – who introduced Hillary at many of her SD appearances – became angry with SD Dem party chairman Jack Billion for resisting Clinton’s offer. This says to me that Chapman is still trying to proffer such a deal. Indeed, Epp quotes Chapman as saying he has “almost cut the deal” with the Clinton campaign.
Nevermind, I guess, that Chapman almost certainly lacks authority within the SD Dem Party to strike such a deal.
This revelation raises a lot of questions. Here’s what I think they are. Please write in with more analysis.
**Do super-delegates Cheryl Kandaras Chapman (Malcom’s wife & the SD Dem Party’s vice chair) and Sen. Tim Johnson, count as the 2 super-dels sought by Clinton? Or is she seeking 2 additional? (While Johnson endorsed Obama, he has pledged to cast his vote for whomever won SD’s primary, and that’s Hillary, as we all remember well.)
**Are the Clintons mounting a 50-state strategy of their own, seeking similar deals across the nation? If so, does that mean that she’s still aiming for her party’s nomination? What else could it mean?
**Now that word is out about this little escapade, on the eve of the Dems’ big Unity push, how quickly will it sour already fragile relations between Obama and Clinton?
**If you’re Tom Daschle, are you furious or bemused? (Tom, feel free to answer this one directly.)
**If you’re Stephanie Herseth, is this why you skipped the party convention? (It would scare me away were I in her shoes.)
**If you’re Tom Daschle, does this prompt you to make any additional efforts to retire the SD Dem Party’s notorious and seemingly endless debt?
Spread the word
http://hoghouseblog.com/2008/06/27/unity-how-about-treachery
#444 tatepuma – I think the Convention is still an opportunity for her. That is why we should all send the letter to Pelosi asking for a roll call vote on the floor. HRC can still be the candidate for President.
#227 alohapuma
I understand your concern for paying down her debt. I have been sending money weekly to her site til a week ago. However we have 2months until the convention, thats not much time. If there is a quick way to do it, then yes. My concern is our time is limited. Also she asked us to pay down her debt because she has to. She has to show Bo that she is trying. Its all part of the game. I grew up in DC and most of my friends/family have worked with one administration or another. As others have posted here before, this was decided a long time ago. Now they are playing it out.
I dont want to sound like I’m against this. Again, my concern is time, thats all. I’m still getting giggles from people when I give them flyers or tell them about us. Not all of course but some. Recent TV spots have helped greatly with exposure. Great job Murphy! But its not enough, we need more. Thats all.
Firebelle #443
Is Donna still on the “hate” kick? Keep bugging her.
Also – Zazzle is linked – bumper stickers and more -
http://www.zazzle.com/dnc_hell_hath_no_fury_bumpersticker-128109287012553245?gl=womenamericans&ZCMP=ProductPageRecs2
#420 PumaAllie
Radio link worked fine for me PumaAllie
I have lots and lots of hopes that something happen before denver and the pelosi an dean have to comit “hara-kiri”
and
our HILLARY could become the official candidate
I would really like to help BHO Pay off Hillarys debit, But I am giving all my extra money to McCain and the RNC, Sorry
#455 zombiefortruth
thanks for the feedback.
you should come and join me on my blog. I think we would make a good team.
#444 tatepuma
Hillary is doing what she must do now, in part to shore up her position as she continues fighting for the causes she believes in. If she’s not our President, she will continue championing those causes from the Senate. She must have the support of other senators.
Meanwhile, she is also doing what she must to win over Obama supporters. Imagine what would happen if Obama self-destructs between now and Denver, and the DNC makes Hillary our nominee. She knows she will need the support of Obama’s followers, lest they vote for McCain in protest the way many of us plan to do now.
While we may not like to see her supporting Obama, she’s playing her hand well, doing what she must to ensure the best possible outcome under the circumstances.
#450 very interesting!
Notice how she stood next to him while he spoke, but he sat on his ass while she spoke. Telling sight. Candy Crowley, you’d better BELIEVE we still have a “problem”. Someone tell her to shut her mouth. I can see his fingers moving in there.
#453 mayor0102… yeah under the guise of “find your joy”
Hillfan4mccain you said,
“As others have posted here before, this was decided a long time ago. Now they are playing it out.”
I think I understand what you mean by this statement, but would you elaborate? Are you saying the nomination is in the bag and we should focus on reforming the party?
Ed Rendell said today he wouldn’t mide working under a President Obama as Secretary of Transportation once his term as governor of PA runs out. That explains his comments yesterday. *%@!*
Ed Rendell said today he wouldn’t mind working under a President Obama as Secretary of Transportation once his term as governor of PA runs out. That explains his comments yesterday. *%@!*
#453 mayor0102
Absolutely. Donna can’t respond with anything but hate. That’s why I keep pouring on the charm.
When she accuses me of hate, I say, “Show me the love.”
When she calls me uninformed, I say, “Please inform me.”
But she can’t show me the love and she can’t inform me, because she’s as empty as Obama.
3442 stella49, I heard that, too. The reporter with the British accent! She repeated it twice for Blitzer! I don’t think they’d use our correct name if they knew it! Which, they probably do!
#452 I already faxed my letter to Pelosi yesterday and one to Debbie Wasserman Schultz who was a former Clinton supporter. We can only hope he self-destructs.
my view is this though:
I think that the Democratic process itself needs to be challenged legally, morally, and intellectually.
I think Senator Clinton’s supporters must turn out in numbers at Denver, to present her case.
Senator Clinton must be waiting to see the strength of the movement, she is waiting.
Take it to Denver, and then, say no deal to Barack Obama. Make the case on the facts of democracy and electability of the other candidate.
If not, then persuade Senator Clinton, that we need her to go Independent, as per the original debates (George Washington) who warned about political parties.
Hey Pumas – I was checking out riverdaughter’s blog & regencyG needs a puma from virginia to be interviewed for the paper – do we have any – name will be published- if so go to riverdaughter…………………..Confluence Blog -its posted here on the side…………………
islandgirl45
What island are you on?
59 vadaryl on 06.27.08 at 2:37 pm
[[ OK body language experts what msg did you get from Hillary.]]
1. Staged, (i.e., cordial-to-strained) and for both.
2. She still believe in her candidacy like us.
3. He needs her; then he will dis her.
And by #3 I do mean, if they have a few co-sponsored events in areas he lost, and will lead the voters to believe that he is going to choose her as his running mate–but won’t.
Media has been saying, “Because Michelle does not like her.” As if to say Michelle will be running his administration.
Hillary or McCain in ‘08
There can be no others!
Hey islandgirl45 – you’re in the wrong place – this is not for you…………………………………….we’ve been ‘dissed’ enough
#470 islandgirl45… Jeopradize her “future”???
Surely you must be kidding???
$73 HeySandy
The unity island
Interesting article on MSNBS (I know, no one really whats to go there). Titled “Hillary Barbs begin to Resonate.” Now they come out with the real story…what took them so long.
#478 whats should be wants
#470 Get Real. What Hillary would want? Are you kidding, we don’t want IT and neither does Hillary. Regardless of what you say, we will not vote for Obama. This is a pro-Hillary site and if you don’t like it here, you can leave. Why would we vote for an unqualified candidate? Why would we vote for a politician who ran the dirtiest campaign since Nixon? Why would we vote for a someone who played the race card and then blamed the Clintons? Why is he still playing it? Apparently you do not have a problem with Obama’s lies about Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers and Rezco. And, by the way, he is not out of hot water yet, he could still get indicted in the Rezco scandal. I can’t stand to look at him and listen to his empty words. If Hillary is not the nominee, I will vote for McCain.
#470 islandgirl45
I didn’t take the time to read your entire post. I’ll say merely that I would be solidly behind Obama if I believed he was a good man and a man of his word. I was suitably impressed the first couple of times I saw him, which was in the Democratic debates six months ago.
However, Obama has repeatedly demonstrated qualities I don’t like. I wish I felt differently, because Obama’s stated policies are much closer to my own beliefs than are McCain’s. But I can’t in good conscience vote for a man of such bad character. Sadly, it looks like I won’t be able to vote for the candidate I want in November. Instead, I must vote for what I believe is the lesser of two evils.
#464 alohapuma
Sorry, I knew what I was talking about, I wasnt very clear. No, I mean who pays off who. Winner pays whatever debt is left. Its for the good of the party (now theres a joke for you haha).
ignore the troll Islandgirl45 – just another kool-aid addict
I am not thoughtfulvetting anymore and have not been before Puma Pac was formed I have asked for a correction. I am CHUMPED DEMOCRAT; ChumpedDemocrat has been my title since the end of the primaries.
I think we must divide our funds between Hillary’s debt and forward-moving positions. Most important is the continued pressure on the DNC and an UNQUALIFIED AND ILLEGITIMATE candidate, the first ever put forward by any major party. We must have democracy, not autocracy. Even though Hillary is supporting (damn, even endorsing) BO, she has only suspended her campaign. She has not given away her delegates. See alohapuma #248, Goninasimonejr #258, zombiefortruth, #272. We must be more powerfully active than primarily reducing Hillary’s campaign debt. Our money must go for: 1) Getting the first roll call vote; 2) Advertising about primary fraud and about BOs lies and flip flops; 3) Stating what our Democratic Party stands for in contrast to the elitist, authoritarian pseudo-Dem Party; 4) Demanding a proper birth certificate for BO and planning a TRIAL FOR TRREASON BY THE DNC, MSM, AND BO (zombiefortruth #216 11:25 am).
Yes, let us band together and demand an official birth certificate; at the same time how about his State Senate papers. I want us to begin a law suit for who BO is as an American citizen — we and the citizens of this nation have a right to know. So far he has not produced an official birth certificate. We know he has one in Kenya.
#473 heysandy
islandgirl’s blog is all about her hate. Very sad.
I think we should let Obama show us how well his followers listen to his request to help HIllary with her debt. If he is as effective and if his supporters want Hillary to back them up with her supporters, I think they should cough up the cash. Just like me, I put my money where my mouth is – My husband and I contributed the max of $4,600 to Hillary in May and we are just normal run of the mill folk !!! We did it online without such a show as Obama did… to quote CNN ticker… he wrote the check himself .. . WoW, how big of him !!
Lets see if his Kool Aid followers follow suit or perhaps they are just better at slinging mud and hate.
I hope Bill Clinton tells him to take a hike – now they are wondering where Bill is and why he hasn’t come out to do a gushy gushy “I love you no shit” photo op with Obama. People are twisted and sick to expect loyalty to be bought/sold , demanded and expected. Sorry, I had to add some color to my post…
I am not sure who I am sickened most with – Obama, DNC or the general American people that just want to FEED ON FRESH BLOOD… I think it is unfathomable to see young and old (yes old) think that by voting for a freshman is a sign of their forward thinking – this is what makes me sick… the rest of the American people.. if they didn’t think that way, we wouldn’t be in this
@#%* pickle….
#470 islandgirl – no one here is a racist attacking Obama. Please send me a link to any clip that would show either Bill or Hillary being racist. The problem with our discourse today is that if one questions a person who happens to be black, then the person is racist. If one attacks a woman for challenging the status quo with a misogynistic style, then all we hear are **crickets**. Why don’t you have any criticism for Jesse Jackson Jr., Obama’s campaign manager comparing fighting HRC to OJ attacking the white mother of his children? Or Steve Cohen, an elected official in Tennessee comparing HRC to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction? Or Obama himself, with his admittedly bad habit of calling women “sweetie,” including journalists he’s never met but dismisses easily while admiring cars in a plant full of anxious workers wanting hope?
Over and out PUMAs. Must feed the little dragonflies.
I think we should treat islandgirl45 with respect and discuss the issues.
islandgirl45, you said,
“I also watched the news clip when Pres. Clinton sought to “ghetto-ize” Obama in South Carolina. Sadly, it couldn’t have been more obvious what Pres. Clinton intended. I was appalled by Hillary’s Republican-style attack ads in the latter part of the campaign, too. They were vile.”
Would you kindly be specific. What did Bill say and what did Hillary say…specifically?
My first comment to you is, we know what Obama’s position papers say. We understand the promises, but the only way to predict the future is my examining the past. There are too many red flags here to roll the dice on the Presidency of the United States, because we want to believe the words of rousing speech.
Murphy please delete # 470, I dont know why she thought she could change our minds, but oh well…………
#477 goanderson
Must all but be deserted!
Murphy! Did you let one escape the dungeon? LOL!
So~ I guess youse guys saw the DNC info commercial today!!! And ladies and gentlemen, we all know what you get when you buy those products. Not a very good product; cheaply made, not very trustworthy, and something that breaks when you challenge it in any task. I’m not buying.
Watching TV before the Unity thing (either FOX or CNN) and there was a piece about Daschle being on the board of several Ethanol companies. Obama is heavy into Ethanol production and use in his platform. The piece was about the true dealings of both Obama and McCain. It spoke of where both are the weakest with their ideas. Somehow we, the people, have to get through all the hype and see the truth. But basically I believe that most people don’t want to spend the time to find the truth. Truth is factual, not sping or gossip. It takes time to find it. Do we have any bonified researchers in this organization? No offense to many fine, hard working folks, but it takes a professional in this area to get at all the pieces.
88 Your northern neighbour on 06.27.08 at 2:46 pm, WROTE,
[[ We need to bring democracy back into the party and to hold DNC accountable for what it has done.]]
My concern is that the May 31st DNC meeting used a media Exist poll and gave media way too much power over our election process. That was born out on June 3rd as the AP 1) announced Hillary giving a concession speech which was not only false but a way to tell voters to stay home and not vote for her; and 2). by announcing the delegate count early on that day, once again, it was like telling voters, don’t bother, it’s over.
SO—
One of my ideas for change would be this: Media like newspapers should openly display (even by way of endorsement) which party and which candidate they are supporting so that we will know and be able to recognize media spin. And the same would go for each individual show and each individual news anchor. If they are going to influence and election they ought to be responsible enough to tell us up front: Hello, I am Wolf Blitzer a CNN anchor for the Situation Room but I openly endorse BHO…. now stay tuned for a report on a Hillary Rally!
Like that… so we know how to recognise the spin and how to turn them off.
#490 HeySandy
It’s sinking. Blub, Blub
islandgirl45,
Of course, you have the right to have your opinion. As you have been looking around here for days, you know what we are about. So, you certainly are welcome to go to the action center to help the cause or find an *61 blog.
BTW: voting for someone because they have the same opinion as someone else is one thing. Having the experience to carry it off is quite another. AND, I don’t fear Roe v. Wade, because I know how the law works. I’m not blindly relying on what someone else tells me to think about it.
Best,
JGoldman1
Good afternoon everyone,
Well alot has happened since I was here this morning! I agree that Hillary must do what she is doing. She is a politician and she needs to throw her support behind the Democratic nominee. I do not and will not fault her for that. I would do the same thing if I thought the nominee was a good candidate for President. I have done it before in other elections, even when the nominee was not the one I had originally supported. I will not do it now because I truly do not believe that this candidate, Senator Obama, is qualified to lead our country. That is my choice, just as it is for all of us here. Additionally, we are protesting a larger issue–how this candidate became the nominee. I do not believe it was an honest and democratic process. That too is my choice, just as it is for most people in this cause. I also can understand how some people do not choose to take the course we are taking–that is their choice and privilege. This is supposed to be a democracy, after all and our vote and our voice is supposed to be sacrosanct. I still have all the respect in the world for Hillary even because she is doing what she must and doing it in her own gracious and dignified way. She is still my hero. I just cannot follow her down this particular path. I do hope that this group can honor Hillary by continuing with the same grace, dignity and conviction that Hillary has even though we travel down two different paths.
I say when we are done with all this, lets work on getting Ms Brazilla some anger mangement.
“stop the hate” her mantra. She must be getting really tired of hearing from us. Her responses are longer now. I dont get anything back from her anymore. I feel rejected……
#485 kavala007 Me thinks he (she) doth protest too much. It is very sad, that, when you don’t bow down to the annoited one, all they can come back with is insult and hatred. No sustance, just like their “leader”.
Really folks. You need to read Heidi Li’s ‘insider’ blog about the joint Clinton/BO fundraiser meeting held Thursday night. It is quite insightful and interesting, particularly the part about “Senator Clinton knows exactly what she’s doing”.
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/06/fundraising-summit-part-iii-senator.html
Excerpt: “Senator Clinton turned toward the group, people who had cheered her and cheered her as she entered, people who have worked hard on her behalf, and she told us that our work was not yet finished; that regardless of what happens this November she would need our support to make sure that every American had a real chance to make the American dream true for him or her. It was a unique moment. A public figure, Senator Clinton, turning to us, about 150 people (I am guessing very wildly) and she made it clear that her first loyalty is to those who have shown her loyalty…”
I only caught part of it… but Major Garrett of FoxNews mentioned something about someone in the audiance asked BHO if he intends tohave a full roll call vote at the convention? I did not hear the reply because I was in another room and did not know if it came from a PUMA.
Can anyone clarify please.
I think onw thing we hae to remind people is that they have to get out and vote. If we all decide to write in Hillary or not vote at all, Obama will win for sure!
Did anyone see O’Reilly or HAnnity yesterday… they had Geraldo Rivera do an interview on the guy that shot Regan… I kinda raised an eyebrown on the timing of that interview… The guy, I don’t remember the name is alive and looking well and dating TWO women in prison ! Not bad for being diagnosed insane…
OK, have to get back to work and not looking forward to seeing UNITY BS this evening…
#492 VA Puma – regencyG over on riverdaughter’s blog confluence is looking for someone from virginia to be interviewed for the newspaper – name will be published – would you be interested? Go to confluence – on side bar – and ask for her – she blogs regularly there
#498 hillfan4mccain
You’re so clever. Maybe that should be next in the Action Center priority list. We can mail Donna gift certificates for anger management classes. Or we can mail her tips for managing her anger.
Meanwhile, I need some productivity tips today. I’ve spent the last five hours blogging instead of working on my own projects. It’s great fun, but it don’t pay the bills.
# 497 Hillgirl, Well said, I agree!
One Love
WOW! My browser just got hi-jacked off the site! Did Anyone else???
I wonder if anyone can answer this for me. I have donated over the 2,300 max to HRC. If I donate more, will any of it go to retire her debt?
I am committed to helping HRC any way I can. I believe she is doing the whole unity thing because she has to as a Democrat. If she has any hope of running again, she must maintain support in her own party. It is difficult for me to watch as well. I have just made a second donation to PUMA, and I urge others to do the same. We absolutely need to get our message out in a huge way ASAP. I am still holding out hope for Clinton in 2008. Never, ever give up!!!
mine too
#501 cosmeta… they were each asked three questions each and that was one to him:
“They both looked at each other and Clinton smiling at BHO said: “That’s still being negotiated”
#509 alohapuma… Your Browser hi-jacked?
#507 – mine too – now its back – guess I need to run my spybot program & find out whodoneit
thank you murphy i was’nt sure so i wanted to proceed with caution
i’ll confirm now .
508 greenfun on 06.27.08 at 6:35 pm
You have to have someone else donate for you if you want to give more to HRC.
#512 Susie1945… did you have to go back and sign in again?
When taht happens, it makes me wonder about how it signed me out?
Yikes, leave for a couple of hours and I see that a new poster has drank the “chocolate milk”.
You would think that if Donna Brazile was so annoyed that she would have the brains (and I use that term lightly) to change her e-mail address…
#311 maxgrader and others giving Taffy a hard time:
She is giving a running commentary of what she is hearing/reading on another (pro Obama site). She is not giving her opinions. Please read all the posts on the thread before slamming someone’s comments. Thank you.
Yes my browser was hijacked then my securty “stuff” redirected to a no connect page.
Fine now.
Just read island girl’s comments. You know folks, she’s speaking from her point of view. I’ve heard it from friends, over and over. It depends on one’s experiences in life which she explained. I don’t agree with her and for the most part, people on this blog have been very civil (there’s been only one evening thread that I turned off immediately). In fact, I think she was one of the better trolls that I’ve seen across the web. Bless you island girl for coming in here and trying to tell your story.
I was struggling to not be upset with Hillary as I watched some of the coverage (blech), but then I was over on No Quarter Usa and saw how there’s stuff with the Rezko scandal heating up that includes Obama’s involvement and i also saw these links:
http://hoghouseblog.com/2008/06/27/unity-how-about-treachery/
http://madvilletimes.blogspot.com/2008/06/treachery-from-clintons-too-juicy-to-be.html
Interesting?
504 Susie1945 on 06.27.08 at 6:32 pm
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Hey susie~ I would love to do it, and if I was retired I would jump at it, but with my name released here in Northern VA as an anti Obamaite, it would be financial and contractural suicide for me. My business is based on numerous contacts with medical professionals who are almost all Obamaites, passionate Obamaites. If they can do it without realeasing my name, that would be another story.
Oh… she wouldn’t do that… she enjoys “finding her joy” by spewing her hate by falsely accusing Hillary, Bill and supporters… It must run in the “family”.
BigCat
Thanks. Let’s give Taffy some purrrs, purrs, purrs.
From Heidi’s blog…. I agree wholeheartedly
“A Donation to Retire the Debt = A Slap in the Face to the D.N.C.
The D.N.C. is in real trouble right now. They can’t raise money. Senator Clinton’s most powerful fundraisers are not going to help them – at least not based on what I have heard them saying – even if Senator Clinton would like the D.N.C. to receive help (Senator Clinton is thinking of the downstream Democrats who rely on the party for assistance in their upcoming elections).
My view is that if the D.N.C. wants one lick of help from any supporter of Senator Clinton the first thing it should do is boot Howard Dean and make it clear that the new chair is somebody who Senator Clinton wants in that position.
In the meantime, we can help Senator Clinton AND tick off the D.N.C. at the same time (smile a slightly naughty smile here). If we very quickly raise a ton ‘o money to rid Senator Clinton of her debt, believe me, the D.N.C. will understand where the true power lies. After we raise that money, we hold on to every penny we have unless and until Senator Clinton becomes the nominee for President or clearly takes control of the D.N.C.”
regarding my comment to #412 tec1965 about evil KoolAid drinkers threatening physical harm upon those who dare defy the Messiah… see the following articles:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/yahoolatestnews/stories/042108dnpolloyalty.3eb8a34.html?npc
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/16/black_commenter_criticizing_ob.html
#518 dmrr… this was for you:
Oh… she wouldn’t do that… she enjoys “finding her joy” by spewing her hate by falsely accusing Hillary, Bill and supporters… It must run in the “family”.
#509
mine too
VA PUMA –
I think the Super’s know how you feel!
#237 Diva2
you are confusing Andrea Mitchell with Deedee Myers. Myers worked for the Clintons and has a husbamd who invented Whiterwater – among other things.
Andrea Mitchell (Mrs Greenspan) was ALWAYS a proud member of the VRWC – stricken with CDS for 16 years and counting. So, the B0bots thinking she doesn’t hate Hillary enough today only underscores how far they went to the deep end
Firebelle 505
Great idea, anger management certificates. I can think of a few more people out there that we could send them to………
Sorry folks about #470 — I thought IslandGirl was a regular.
I need new glasses I guess.
Enjoy your island Obama followers. It’s getting more and more deserted by the day.
Andrea Mitchell’s coverage was never overtly negative…but it was tremendously negative. Her coverge was quite underhanded and her distain palpable.
#533 murphy on 06.27.08 at 6:53 pm
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Uh-huh. You were just testing us out weren’t you, Murphy?
Keeping us on our Puma toes, testing our big cat reflexes. LOL!
To All, Politics is this one great big family especially in political parties and WA DC. Everyone knows everyone, smiles at everyone, stabs everyone in the back, and them invites them to their fundraising parties. They inter-marry, sort of like Mary M and James C. Its a game, a daily game of chess. But we out in the “real world” don’t live that way. Don’t have time. Trying to make a living. That’s why I think we need to clean out WA DC especially the Congress and some of the people in the agencies. Didn’t O promise this clean out? Still think I’ll sit back with my feet up on the chair and watch this whole game play out. Nothing will change. I’d better go take my “optimism” pill.
Dear Pumas, once again I’ve heard from my “pen pal” Donna. Here’s her email, followed by my response. Enjoy …
*****
If you need info, I will send your name and email to the Obama camp. I do not work for Obama or the DNC. I am a Dem volunteer.
Again, I can send your name, but I am not interested in reading crap.
I am very passionate right now about the Party, our nominee and the need to help Sen Clinton retire millions in debt.
Thanks,
*****
Dear Ms. Brazile,
The Obama camp has had my contact information since I first expressed interest in the candidate last January. I didn’t unsubscribe to their mailing list, because despite my current dislike for the candidate, I’m still trying to be an informed voter. I just wish I’d get some substantial information from the Obama camp instead of rhetorical press releases.
Although you don’t work for Obama or the DNC, you seem to be well-respected by party leaders. If that were not the case, I wouldn’t bother emailing you. Nor would I ask you to consider encouraging Obama to accept McCain’s invitation for weekly debates. I’m being open and honest with you about what Obama can do to perhaps shift my thinking. But nothing short of hearing him in weekly debates with John McCain will convince me.
If you’re passionate about the party and your nominee, please consider my input. It’s the same thing I would tell Obama if he asked me directly what it would take to get my vote. I want to hear both candidates debate the issues so that I can make a fair comparison.
Thank you for your consideration.
VA Puma – it’s okay – just got a response from regencyG and there was a time deadline and it was missed – so thanks – just trying for some publicity for us – but nobody wanted it
when I get hi-jacked – the screen I’m on goes blank – I can go to another – sometimes it comes back, sometimes not and I have to reboot………….it’s nuts * sometimes I think it’s really VISTA – bah microsoft
goandersen, good to see you here! Did you see my kitty up front?
Islandgirl…I too am a Floridian…one of those half a person voters! One thing to consider here…like you, we all have our beliefs, our opinions. If we can share those beliefs, and opinions without the need to shame or devalue each other, life is much sweeter. There is no one on this thread who wouldn’t walk through fire for Hillary Clinton, we love her, support her and will be there for HER. That doesn’t mean because we don’t agree with her on supporting the presumptive nominee, that we are in any way dishonoring her. She would not coerce or shame even one of us, why must you?
529 alohapuma on 06.27.08 at 6:47 pm
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Yeah, my inside rebel is so ready to go again. Used to do lots of Politics. But my old outside justs loves her own bed!!
#531 mayor0102 on 06.27.08 at 6:49 pm Firebelle 505
Great idea, anger management certificates. I can think of a few more people out there that we could send them to………
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LOL! ‘My mama told me’ that anger management is just what Brazilla needs! Of course we may have to change the roolz to have her committed………….to anger management of course!
#470 islandgirl45
Well, I can only answer some of your questions from a personal point of view. As an Independent, I base my vote on who I think will be best for the country.
I listened to BO speeches and in the beginning was neutral. Very quickly I came to the conclusion that he was a person of flawed character. Yes, part of this is an emotional reaction to him. But part is not. I was raised in a family in which religion, politics, and race were NEVER discussed. I had no previous prejudices against anyone except for terrorists (for obvious reasons). I have watched BO divide the country into factions based on hate and I have watched his supporters spew hatred towards others. Such language and ill will towards others by BO supporters – lordy lordy – I have never heard such hatred. BO supporters can only be acting out of blind faith and ignorance. I ask myself who inspires this hatred and the only answer I come up with is BO.
I have to remind myself now not to be afraid of people who do not share my skin color.
I watch the company he keeps. Like attracts like.
This country is filled with hatred and divisiveness.
Our freedom of speech is suppressed.
Disturbing FACTS are reported about BO daily.
Civil rights have been set back by decades.
My choice of who to vote for is based on (1) policy and (2) integrity of the candidate.
Honestly, I do not understand how anyone can do an objective analysis of BO’s integrity, honesty, or character and come to any conclusion other than that he would destroy America should he be elected.
Do your homework with an objective mind and then come back and support your position with facts. Only then can any of us take you seriously. If after your own investigation you feel as we do, come join us.
Was there any news coverage of the flowers delivered to Hillary? I hope someone called the media and told them.
Also, just on Fox, Juan Williams and others discussing Bill Clinton’s absence. They were shocked at his tepid endorsement. What the hell do they want, his presidency was trashed and he was unfairly called a racist. I hope Bill doesn’t go out and campaign, I would be surprised if he did. And I’ll bet if he ever gets *61 alone, he will give him a piece of his mind. I have no doubt as he does have a temper.
#542 ladyhawkke on 06.27.08 at 6:58 pm
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Yup. Have finger wag will travel…
That’s our “Big Dawg” Clinton!
CNN is spinning the shit again about UNITY – whoopee!!
Firebelle #536
Go Gal. Donna isn’t as “hateful” this time. You got her hooked.
I would like to see a page added to the blog with the correct information for voters who are wanting to write-in Hillary’s name in the general election. If someone from each state would call the Secretary of State office in the state they reside in and post the info here then we can all stay informed.
The info for write-in in Ohio is:
Senator Clinton or the Clinton campaign must file a “Declaration of Intent” by September 3, 2008 to have a write-in for her to be counted. If the Intent is NOT filed then a write-in will not be counted nor will it go to B.H.O.. The write-in will be ignored as though you didn’t cast a vote.
As of now the Declaration of Intent has not been filed. I will keep checking to see if that changes.
There is no one, anywhere that can factually dispute that Clinton’s Presidency did more in 8 years than all others combined in the last 40.
Hi again Pumas,
My son just came home and told me about this video. It’s really funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G9jA-FGGd8
#538 SusyT
Hey, kitty??
#544 Susie1945 … what do you mean spinning “for” or camlling it bull…t?
They need to leave Bill alone!
And good for you Bill, ignoring Oprah!
THANK YOU MURPHY AND MAMAPUMA — WHO EVER YOU ARE!!! YOU ARE GENUISES!!! YOU TRULY ARE – IN SO MANY WAYS!!! YOUR EMAIL LOGIN ADVICE WAS PERFECT AND PRECISE!!! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I CAN’T THANK YOU ENOUGH! YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT THOSE INSTRUCTIONS ON YOUR WEBSITE SOMEWHERE FOR OTHERS WHO MIGHT HAVE HAD THE SAME TROUBLE AS ME! THEY ARE STEP BY STEP BRILLIANT!
I COULDN’T MAKE IT TO UNITY … DIDN’T THINK I’D HAVE THE STOMACH FOR IT! BUT I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE BEEN PART OF THE PROTEST! I DID MAIL MY PROTEST LETTER TO PELOSI! AND I WILL CONTRIBUTE!
MURPHY AND MAMAPUMA PUT SO MUCH EFFORT INTO HELPING ME GET BACK BLOGGING … IF I HAD TO PAY THEM FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORT, (IT’D HAVE COST ME A FORTUNE!!) I’D STILL BE SITTING FRUSTRATED IN MY HOUSE IN OBAMA TOWN!!!! WHAT A FRUSTRATING PLACE TO LIVE!!!!
I’LL BE BACK!!!
507 greenfun on 06.27.08 at 6:35 pm, WROTE,
[[ I wonder if anyone can answer this for me. I have donated over the 2,300 max to HRC. If I donate more, will any of it go to retire her debt?]]
Anything you donate to hillaryclinton.com will go to her campaign and yes her debt. Also, she cannot give him her contributor list. Your name and address are safe.
Just make sure you look for the BIG CONTRIBUTE button and do not sign onto the Obama Banner.
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BHO Donated 2,300 to Hillary yesterday
MO Donated 2,300 to Hillary yesterday
But,
Hillary Clinton Donated 2,300 to Obama today
Bill Clinton Donated 2,300 to Obama today
A wash…
Hi, new Puma here! Been reading along since HRC suspended campaign. I’m happy to see that momentum is gaining. Daragh is a great spokesperson as well.
#546 A write-in will not do it. Obama could get elected. That is just like putting a third party candidate on the ballot, they never get enough of the vote. Here in Florida, they have to file a Declaration of Intent also and it hasn’t been done. The only way to keep *61 out if Hillary is not the nominee is to vote McCain.
#542
Bill doesn’t owe anyone anything. Even with his faults, he still was a great President. The MSM and DNC just wants someone to be their scapegoat. They do the same thing to Jimmy Carter whenever they get a chance. However, the former Republican Presidents don’t get that type of treatment from their Party. Who has class here? Democrats or Republicans? I’d say the Republicans do a lot better in honoring and respecting their past Presidents than the Dems. Except they may have difficulty with Bush II…
I refused to watch it. I decided a few days ago that I would be blocking this out. lol.
goandersen,
I should probably turn him loose…given current events! .actually his picture is on last nights thread. Wanted you to see him as we discussed it once!
#528 …I’ve read a lot of her responses to people and I can’t believe that, especially as a “public” figure, she is sooooooooo nasty….you would think she would have come up with some standard response or just ignored them altogether or as I said changed her e-mail…so you’re right apparently she enjoys the confrontation…
Oh…….the Clintons donated to BO’s campaign……..
make me scream!
#542 ladyhawkke,
Oh, the Big Dawg has a temper to be reckoned with. Did you see the interview he did with Chris Wallace?
#553 ladyhawkke, exactly! A vote for McCain is a vote against B.H.O
It just goes to show what a harvard/Chicago Street Dawg BHO really is – to go after a former, beloved President of his own party and setting him up to be labeled “a racist”!
Ohio Lady,
Same in WA State. So I’m writing in!
#558 WTF? Why would they do that? So, basically he didn’t give Hillary squat!
#556 SusyT
Oh, you mean “Uno”. Very cute. Pic makes you just want to cuddle him.
BHO Donated 2,300 to Hillary yesterday
MO Donated 2,300 to Hillary yesterday
But,
Hillary Clinton Donated 2,300 to Obama today
Bill Clinton Donated 2,300 to Obama today
A wash…
Excellent. Obama’s grandstanding with the check was really an insult to Hillary!
#545 mayor0102
Yes, it’s the first time I haven’t seen the word “hate” in her emails. But I think I’ve been insulted nonetheless. I think she was trying to say that my emails are full of “crap.”
I’m going to go pout. Donna hurt my feelings.
Not.
#546 go_ohio_Lady:
“I would like to see a page added to the blog with the correct information for voters who are wanting to write-in Hillary’s name in the general election.”
Good idea!
I know there’s a website that lists by state the regulations for write-in candidates. I can’t seem to find the url. Anyone else recall the name of that site?
#563 antifish… they not only donated to his Senate Campaign… she campaigned for him!
#562 mayor0102, was a Declaration of Intent filed by the Clinton campaign?
antifish the video is hysterical!
#565 alohapuma,
Oh, I’m livid! Grrrrrrrrrrrowlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#559 Yes, I did. And that’s exactly what I’m talking about, he really told him off. They better not mess with “Bubba!”
is it “writehillaryin”
#570 alohapuma,
Yes, I thought so too!
Maybe we should send President Clinton some flowers! I admire him as well–he campaigned his heart out for Hillary and you can tell that he really cares for her and about her. He would get into trouble when he was trying to defend her. . .I never thought it was trouble, but the press would take every opportunity to make it into trouble.
We could make him an honorary PUMA! Of course that would really get him into trouble!
goandersen..yes, he’s a cuddler, but he’s now an official PUMA….he’s a great hunter, even with one eye!!!
Did you notice *61 was reading his lines while our girl was all about “natural”!!! She just opens her mouth and it rolls out so naturally and so effectively…she’s just the best.
#567 DancesWithPumas, if the web site is the one I also can’t find right now their info is incorrect! I emailed them the correct information and no one has made the correction.
Ugggh, I just read about the Clintons giving that fake their money. A wash is correct, they owe him nothing and the press can stop talking about his highness and MO giving Hillary their money.
OT, just heard this audio clip on Sinclair. Apparently, the whole arrest after the press conference was a sham…no warrant, even the courts couldn’t figure out why he was labeled a fugitive and was taken in. No paperwork, no item number for the supposed crime, etc.. The guy is going against the biggest machine in politics right now…interesting and worth a listen.
http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_L_Sinclair_062508.mp3
You know, the man spent 8 years as our president and how many years as Governor? I think he knows a flake running for President when he sees and hears one???
Good evening all. Just got a chance to log in and scan the posts. Look like you all had a busy day. I took a quick look at the news to see if the cable new showed any thing of puma being at Unity. Nothing being said yet. Have you all heard any thing?
537 Susie1945 I stopped the highjacking etc on my computer by going in and raising the security level on my Virus protection. That might help you too.
#563 antifish: “#558 WTF? Why would they do that? So, basically he didn’t give Hillary squat!”
1-The Clinton’s donation is only small potatoes compared to what he will have to give Senator Clinton to diminish her debt
2- The media portrayed Senator Clinton as a beggar looking for handouts. I’m glad she and Bill made teh return gesture.
#573 wontbackdown, thank you, that was the web site
http://www.writehillaryin.com/Write_In_Facts_by_State.html
Incorrect Information!
Great video!
#579 wontbackdown….AMEN!!!
#576 SusyT
I feel better now that Jackson is a prowlin. Whew!
Thanks for letting the little guy loose! LOL!
I am still heaving from watching the “constipated unity pony” media circus parade.
HRC: Simply the Best.
RE:470 islandgirl45
I think you must be the looking thru the wrong glasses or maybe you need to get some if havent seen the way Obama and his supporters and the DNC adn the media have been so wrong in this election or should i say {SELECTION] OF BHO
And as far as obama helping pay off Hillarys debt you fail to mention thats usally what happens as he did by helping pay off Edwards , and richarson debt so really hes no big hero here !!!!! And we all know that they gave him 4 of her delagates and since you say it didnt mean so much since he was 100 ahead why did he take them and let the votes and delagates to be counted and he took willingly the votes of 3 or 4 other candidates that was in the race at the time? and trust me all know where he got his lead in the cacuses where they abused the eledely people in the lines by in some cases hitting them in the heads with their fists and bussing people in that didnt even show proof of ID or counting votes twice in N.C. thats a fact !!!
And seems as thou all of his supporters just think its ok to be mentored by the rev. wright that he has changed his story on so many times or being mentored by the communist Frank Thomas Davis and all of his flip flops of late !!!! Believe the things about this guy are to many to even write down he is a security threat to our country !!!!!!!!! And you coming here to try get us to drink that koolaid will never happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trust before Nov. there will be so many things come out about him you will be begging to switch sides !!!!!!
Of coarse unless you are a member of farracans church or Hamas .
#577 go_Ohio_Lady
YIKES! That isn’t good. I trust us PUMApacs and therefore second your idea!
#582 go_Ohio_Lady… that site has “incorrect information? or the Info you were going on before?
#584 SusyT…. “AMEN!!!”
Can you believe BO’s supporter’s blindness??? The Clinton’s are the coolest “change agents” to ever hit the political stage!
God, it just p….sses me off!
#470 islandgirl45
Others here may want to address you points individually, but I suggest that you go back and read the previous threads posted since we formed around June 1st to really understand our stance on many of the charges you level at us. All your concerns have been addressed before, thoroughly. Read before you pounce. Growwwllll.
Oh i forgot to say that Obama 2 days ago played the race card himself !!!!!!!!!
I thought he was supose to be the one of change !!!
yeah right
#565 you are right it is a wash. We need to get this….The Clintons do not want his money. they don’t want to owe him anything. That is why She asks us to pay her debt…so she can get to the convention debt free. I keep saying ….they have a plan…..lets help them work the plan….DONATE….PAY THE DEBT DOWN….It is not over. We need to keep working. You think they haven’t already talked to their big fundraisers..and the super delegates….She has not given up…so let’s not give up either. We have work to do. We are growing everyday….Hillary knows it…I seen her looking and smiling she knows who is on her side and who has her back….PUMA POWER!
I am sorry, but Hillary looked like she was faking it, campaigning for the NOBAMA today in Unity.
She lack the enthusiasm, the brightness, she really wasn’t into it.
YUK!
#546 about the write ins by state. The Clintonsdems have already done this and here is the link. Perhaps Murphy could put it on the action page so people could check it out.
http://www.writehillaryin.com/Write_In_Facts_by_State.html
#567 dances..the site is http://www.writehillaryin.com/Write_In_Facts_by_State.php
But it doesn’t seem to be there any more …see if you have luck
# 521 csuzeq, this is huge!!! Hillary is still maneuvering for super-delegate votes!!! What could this mean? And on the eve of the Unity appearance to boot! I love it!!! Hope its true, I have always thought Hillary had something up her sleeve!! Bravo!!!
The debt is a non-issue if it doesn’t exist.
I’m going to continue to contribute as I can.
1 million people at $20.08 does it.
500,000 people at $20.08 is sufficient.
Thanks Murphy and anonymous. I will be careful about my comments. I just feel extremely sad about how the DNC leaders torchered Hillary. Every time I see Hillary’s eyes, I feel like to cry, because you can see the sadness in her eyes. Plus, this puppet Obama acts like the new king of the 21st century.
I’m hopping Hillary still has chance this time, MIRACLE can happen.
#593 Taffy, that page has INCORRECT information! I tried to get them to update the info for Ohio but as of today no one has made the correction. Don’t trust it, call your Secretary of State office.
592 SARTOM
I noticed that too. I watched a great many of her campaign speaches on CSPAN and got to know her facial expressions. She had what i would call a theatrical smile. Poor nobama she is even a better actor
Today was quite surreal. How cheesy was this ‘unity’ day… Unity, NH…matching blues…how forced…and COERCED!!!!
Nobama ‘08
McCain ‘08
Hillary ‘12!!!
http://www.hellnobama.com
#592 SARTOM… I totally agree! For all of us that have seen her in person, all I have to say is:
Nice effort, Hillary. But, we know passion, truth, commitment, vision and love of country one who understands what is best for our country…
That is exactly why we support YOU! And, with all due respect, Senator… the ONE thing you do not do very well at all is…………play-act in a supporting role, reading from a DNC script, in a play called “THE FARCE”, on the stage of “unity”!
91 TRISHFROMCANADA WROTE,
[[ How do you recommend we go after the birth certificate, other than what is already being done. Its not an easy feat if reporters can’t even get it.]]
He’s already posted a graphic of that on his newer website called, http://www.fightsmear.com
I just got a “Unity” email from Hillary………..
She still needs her debt paid. The rest. I can’t watch the ” puke” video again.
Hello Pumas, We have not a second to waste. We need to find a way to reach out to those around us with our message. Here’s my e-mail I just wrote to a childhood friend who I just found out is contemplating voting for *61 in light of the recent events!
Dear Mirna,
I am writing this e-mail to you because I’m REALLY concerned for our country. You know me to be a very outspoken individual but when have you ever heard me talk about politics before this election? Or, when have you seen me as concerned as you see me now about the future of our country? I have never, ever in my life put too much of my energy in any of this kind of stuff before because as you know I have an extremely busy life and I know you do too! So, what’s different this time? Why am I taking a moment from your busy day to ask you to please read this e-mail? Why do I take a chance of alianating you by talking about this stuff when you are such a dear friend to me? Well, we never had a extreme leftist, unexperienced, with no proven track record of any kind, a loyal disciple and follower of the Black liberation theology for 20 years who wrote a book inspired by a sermon given by his w hi te America hating pastor who he calls his spiritual mentor, and friend of America’s haters and documented domestic terrorists, a friend of convicted felons who raised money for his campaign, someone who has earned the admiration and endorsement of all the dictators and abusers or power of the world (all these things combined) run for the presidency of our country before! That’s what’s different this time! I’m not a bigot, a racist or a closed minded and resistant to change kind of individual, for I am myself different, and a member of a minority group in this country. No one else could be more against people who discriminate others base on race, gender or religious background than myself. No one could be more for change than myself. But I am for the right and positive kind of change that will provide my children with the same opportunities that I have enjoyed! I don’t believe that socialis m and Marxism represent the kind of change any of us would want for our country. I don’t believe that someone who sat in the pew of a “church” that promotes hate towards others and embraces both the message as much as the messenger of such evil for 20 years can deliver the kind of change that our country needs. It is a fact that thousands of dollars in personal donations and earmarks were given to these hate mongering “churches” by this so called “agent of change and transparency” that now aspires to the highest office in the land. If this doesn’t serve as proof of how close to his heart this “cause” is, I don’t know what does. Would you donate money to a cause you did not support or believed in wholeheartedly? Would you stay in a church that promotes hate towards others for 20 years if you didn’t agree with the message? Is this good judgment? Would you be able to preside e ffectively and fairly over a nation as diverse as the United Sta tes of America if you considered a huge sector of its population to be the “oppressors” of “your people”? I don’t claim to agree with 100 % of what my pastor says every Sunday, but believe me, if he started using racially divisive incendiary language and started “preaching” hate instead of love and division instead of unity, or if he started twisting the Bible to suit his own agenda, I’d be leaving that church in a heart beat without ever looking back! I don’t think that staying in that church would represent the minimum amount of parental responsibility that my children deserve! Should we expect any less from those individuals running for President?
In terms of qualifications and experience, what has he ever accomplished that qualifies him to lead this nation? He has no specific accomplishments of any kind, and the reason I know is because I have researched high and low, in addition to the research that I have done, I have been open to give him the benefit of the doubt by picking up the phone and by calling both his own campaign headquarters and the DNC’s headquarters and neither could offer me any substance worth of any serious consideration! So, all I’m left with to make my decision of whether or not I can even consider voting for this man are his character and judgment, which seem a little grim if you ask me! Will charisma and flowery rethoric do the trick? Well, perhaps it would if we were choosing the next American Idol or trying the fill a vacancy for a motivational speaker, but he is applying for the position of Commander in Chief! Think o f the last time YOU got a job based on charisma alone. Perhaps it is this very lack of experience and qualifications what made him cheat, twist and manipulate the rules when he first ” won” his State Senate seat in Chicago by making sure to use technicalities to remove from the ballot the names of those who were indeed qualified so he could run uncontested! Is this the new American hero?
Let’s talk about change for a moment. Is change a speech you make or something you accomplish by working hard? When was the last time you were able to change anything just by talking about it? Should we believe so implicitly in the words of someone who claiming to be the ultimate agent of change has nothing to show for in terms of accomplishments? What has he ever changed?!
Let’s now talk about unity. Is it possible to achieve it by promoting division? Does he overcome racism by posing as the victim and by playing the race card on those who dare ask for a specific and concrete plan of how he is to deliver the promises he has made? I guess the answer is no, but playing the race card has proven to be a very effective method to deviate people’s attention from the real issues: The economy, the mortgage meltdown, the out of control gas prices, our dependency of foreign oil, the war on terror, unafordable health care, education, and his inability to deal with any of these issues or fix any of these problems due to his lack of qualifications. Isn’t it interesting how this “great uniter” would not hesitate to sit down with our enemies abroad such as Hugo Chavez, Raul Castro, and Mahmoud Ahmedinajad to name a few without pre-conditions but WILL NOT agree to hold a town hall m eeting with his opponent here at home unless a huge number of conditions are met prior to his meeting with him? How are we to believe that he is capable to reach across party lines to get anything done if he is elected president? One thing is clear in my mind about this character, he is so hungry for power and respects nothing that stands in his way to accomplish this goal of his. His “spiritual mentor” and the churches and groups he used in his rise to power have been officially thrown under the bus. His own grandmother was thrown under the bus, although it is my understanding that she has been brought back from under the bus because it suits the uniter’s agenda at this particular moment as he launches a “make-over” campaign in order to get rid of his tarnished image. Will those who cast a vote for him in this election be the next group to end up under the bus?
I want you to know it’s been very difficult for me to gather the courage to say what I have said to you in this e-mail. Please know that I’m not doing this in an effort to invade your space or to lecture you about how to vote. That is the last thing on my mind! My only motivation in writing these lines is to share my genuine concerns for our nation with you, who I consider not only and intelligent individual but a loving and caring citizen of this country. Please ask yourself who you pledge allegiance to? Is party affiliation to be regarded more important than loyalty to your country? All I ask is that you look at the facts and that you do take the time to closely examine ALL candidates and their records. We hear former opponents and party icons and leaders of the so called agent of change coming out to endorse him now and to ask us to consider giving him o ur votes and to unite behind this character, but, have you noticed that all of these former candidates, party icons and leaders are rich enough to pick up their entire families in less than 24 hours and relocate somewhere else in the event that this country goes down the tube! Can you and I do that? Perhaps the answer to this last question should be an indication that the future of our nation is in the hands of those of us who are here to stay!
I have plenty of research material to back up every single statement I have made in this e-mail. Let me know if you would like me to forward any of it to you.
Thank you for taking the time to read my e-mail.
Love,
Roxy
P.S.: The paragraphs below are a an excerpt from Wikipedia. They briefly talk about Black Liberation Theology.
Theologians such as theology scholar Dr. Robert A. Morley take a dim view of black theology. Morley’s paper “The Goals Of Black Liberal Theology” is one widely quoted paper citing specific criticisms of black theology.
He states that black theology turns religion into sociology, and Jesus into a black Marxist rebel. While making statements against whites and Asians, it promotes a poor self-image among blacks, and describes the black man as a helpless victim of forces and people beyond his control. Black theology calls for political liberation instead of spiritual salvation.
Fundamentally, it is not Bible-based, Christ-honoring theology from this critical viewpoint. Anthony Bradley of the Christian Post interprets that the language of “economic parity” and references to “mal-distribution” as nothing more than channeling the views of Karl Marx.
He believes James Cone and Cornel West have worked to incorporate Marxist thought into the black church, forming an ethical framework predicated on a system of oppressor class versus a victim much like Marxism.
Stanley Kurtz of the National Review criticizes black liberation theology, saying, “A scarcely concealed, Marxist-inspired indictment of American capitalism pervades contemporary ‘black-liberation theology’…The black intellectual’s goal, says Cone, is to “aid in the destruction of America as he knows it.” Such destruction requires both black anger and white guilt. The black-power theologian’s goal is to tell the story of American oppression so powerfully and precisely that white men will “tremble, curse, and go mad, because they will be drenched with the filth of their evil.” In the preface to his 1970 book, A Black Theology of Liberation, Wright wrote: “There will be no peace in America until whites begin to hate their whiteness, asking from the depths of their being: ‘How can we become black?’”
Did anyone get Hillary’s email yet???
I donated $20.08 to Hillary’s campaign debt yesterday.
We must soldier on.
Good news is worth repeating:
“Diane, our Mistress of Mischief, at JustSayNoDeal.com has sent the following schedule of events:
ABC – POLITICS LIVE – INTERVIEW 215PM
Interview with MAWM! Neil Cavuto, FOX NEWS- 4:15pm
MSNBC – INTERVIEW 4:30pm
FOX BUSINESS NETWORK 7PM
CBS EVENING NEWS – 6PM
GOOD MORNING AMERICA – TOMORROW A.M.
FOX NEWS SATURDAY – BETWEEN 2 & 4PM
AL JAZEERA ENGLISH – 4PM TODAY
Diane sas she is fielding calls from the media in Japan and Germany as well. Hot damn! The Viral has gone Global!”
#603 wontbackdown….well said!
OK I have a question for all of you out there.
Here is my question—Hillary says she is not worried about the 12 million in personal loans she made to the campaign. Hillary says she only wants to get the other part paid off.
So what exactly would happened if Hillary doesnt pay off the other 8-10 million with public donations but pays it with her own money.
We all know from the income taxes that Bill and Hillary earned over a hundred million last year. Losing 20% of my income to me would be a lot better than to have to suck up to Obama. Maybe its just me, but considering how Obama has treated the Clintons I would never get on Obama’s bus.
I wasnt a big donator to Hillary but I did chip in. Since that Saturday speech when she endorsed Obama I stopped. I just could not see even one penny of my money going to Obama.
So anyone have the answer to my question?
I still say its better to donate money to our cause . Hillary will be ok for now
MerryJaine #552
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Is it true that MLK daughter does not support Obama?
#607 alohapuma
Yes, I got her email. I immediately sent this reply:
Dearest Hillary,
I will support you always. However, I cannot support Barack Obama. He has repeatedly shown himself to be a man of bad character and bad judgment.
I and my PUMA family will do everything we can to expose Obama’s weaknesses and bad character between now and Denver so that perhaps the superdelegates will vote for you and make you our nominee. If that happens, we will vote for you in November. If not, I will vote for McCain. I may not agree with his policies, but I trust him far more than I do Obama. I cannot in good conscience elect a man of bad character.
#609 Dances….this is wonderful!!! I wonder when CNN and the otherswill get the picture that we are NOT rolling over and NOT going away!
This is on AC 360 :
June 27, 2008
The Fall…and Rise of the Clinton Empire
Posted: 04:51 PM ET
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Tom Foreman | BIO
AC360° Correspondent
Just when you thought it was safe to watch political news again, take a look at those pictures of her and Obama standing hand in hand, and brace yourselves, Hillary haters.
All of you out there who are celebrating because her campaign is over, all of you who danced in your living rooms when she made her concession speech, all of you who said “Finally, the era of the Clintons is over.”
And all of you whose hearts were broken by her defeat; raise your eyes.
Because many political watchers here in DC are convinced Hillary Clinton is emerging from this election stronger than she went in, despite her loss… And they’ve got about 18 million reasons to think that way. 18 million voters chose her over Barack Obama. Think about that. Even in a country as large as ours, that is a staggering number of people, and in Washington that translates into clout. In every state where she won big, elected Democrats took notice. Now watch what happens. When those Dems are seeking re-election or grappling with big issues, odds are her name will be riding high on their Outlook contacts list.
All that cheerleading she is doing for Obama, brings some spoils of war with it. Insiders say former Clinton staff workers are taking new positions within Camp Obama every day. Her biggest supporters and donors are slowly stepping up to shake his hand. She is walking alongside him, and with every step she is gaining influence, respect, and power in the next administration if Obama wins the White House.
If she had lost badly, she would be scrabbling around for crumbs. But she played him to a near tie in the popular vote, and that is something that no one in the Democratic Party dares to ignore. If Democrats want to beat the Republicans, (and they do!) they suspect the Clinton Seal of Approval must be stamped on a fair amount of all that happens until November.
Because with that seal (and forgive me for bringing up the now sensitive subject of seals) comes access to the Clinton political machine; top level operatives who know how to rally support in the states where Obama did not connect so well, and with constituencies that he makes uneasy: Latinos, older working class voters, and some women. With Clinton approval comes experience in running a general election campaign against the Republicans; remember, Obama has never done that before and primary battles, like the one he just waged, are wholly different affairs. And with Clinton approval comes the former president, Bill Clinton. It is not yet clear, precisely, what role he will play, and considering all the kerfuffle he raised around his wife’s campaign, Obama may be understandably cautious about how he is deployed…but it is certainly better for Obama to have him on his side.
Make no mistake about it, Obama won the nomination. He came from absolutely nowhere to knock off a sure winner (that would be her,) and stun the Washington power players. He’s not about to give her a co-presidency now. Even all that talk of a Vice Presidential slot has grown muted.
But Hillary Clinton is, as it seems the Clintons always do, rapidly turning her defeat into political cabbage; chopping it ten different ways, slathering it with the sauce of consolation, rearranging it on the Capitol platter, and guess who looks like she is eating steak again?
18 million voters have a way of sweetening the deal for any politician, whether or not he or she ultimately wins the race.
The Clinton Empire over? The political oracles in DC are whispering: Don’t bet on it.
On another note, Black Martini Cats up and now ready to take your order.
Take it upstairs!
Can someone tell me the best way to contribute in order to help with Hillary’s debt?
Hillary would want us to do it the way we are. We need to raise money for our ads and to get Murphy on interviews with some good shows. Like the Ellen show who has more viewers that Oprah and the Larry King show and The View and Letterman. This could be our ace in the hole. We need to drop Obama to his knees and show the DNC they will pay for their dirty deeds
aloha I got it. It does say she will help elect him..but doesn’t sound like her ususal emails.
#596 You are so right. We need to keep paying the debt. If we just keep on, just like we did in the primary we can do this. Have parties, sell stuff, have a garage sale what ever you can do to contribute. We need to quit feeding negativity and get back to work. What is that Cher movie?
SNAP OUT OF IT!!!! LOL
#611 k in the northwest,
Yes, I have an answer. Why would Hillary spend more of her own money when she has supporters that appreciate her and are willing to help her retire her debt? I don’t care how much money she has, she was out there fighting for us and she invested a LOT of her own money. Why would you ask such a question if you are a Hillary supporter? It seems mean-spirited.
#611 k in the northwest … If we don’t help her… he and the DNC will lord it over her, spken or unspoken, for the rest of her political career in one way or another.
Also, she will carry the mark of “having fundraising issues” in the future.
That is exactly what bought him the DNC and media wonder-boy selected position – his internet $$$ machine.
prplvette85 Moonstruck!
#623 antifish… does Hillary have a future as our presidential candidate? If so, we need to help pay off her debt before the convention!
P.S. Most employers do credit checks these days on applicants… what does that tell you?
#611 k in the northwest … If we don’t help her… (if he takes the credit for “helping her pay it off”)
…and if we don’t hurry, he’ll take the credit anyway!
What a depressing day. I don’t have cable t.v. so I didn’t see the Unity “event” but I’ve been listening to NPR and checking the web, and I haven’t seen any references to any protesters. Were they not allowed near, were their signs taken away, or did the media just ignore them?
Firebelle, I’m trying to digest and believe in your reasoning for why Hillary must do what she’s doing today. But it’s your letters to Donna that are the only thing that’s made me smile today! What a class act you are! Island girl, if you’re still lurking, Donna Brazile’s responses to Firebelle Puma’s very civil and reasonable emails reflect the exact problems I’ve had with this primary — the DNC’s highest echelon dismissing very disrespectfully one of the candidates, but MORE IMPORTANTLY, dismissing us, Democratic voters, whose only crime is to disagree with what we’re told to do. As much as I admire Hillary Clinton, this goes beyond her — it is the people, it is democracy, that the DNC disregards and continues to disrespect. I find it so contradictory — if all of Hillary’s voters are already falling into line (as the media and the DNC like to say we are) OR they don’t need us, then why the “unity” effort? Why not just go out and win it himself?
Firebelle, I also agree with your position on why you’re voting for McCain over Obama. If Obama really stood by his positions, e.g. if he followed through with the few convictions we thought he had, such as campaign finance reform or FISA, to debate McCain “any time, any place” (except this time and that place, I guess), then I’d vote for him. But more than positions, I vote for integrity, for character, for honesty, and I just don’t see those in Obama.
Oh, I feel a bit cheered up — NPR’s story on the Unity rally acknowledged that almost 50% of Clinton supporters are NOT won over to Obama yet!
#628 RoseCityfriend… cheer up, my friend! There is also good news looming on the horizon…
1) BHO isn’t off the rezko hook, yet
2) Behind the scenes things regarding delegate negotiations
3) BHO WILL NOT GET ELECTED!
#611 I agree with wontbackdown and antifish…we have always told her that we have her back and nothing has changed. I’ve continued to contribute whenever I can as I want to do as much as I possibly can to eliminate any need for her to have to be beholdin’ to *61 She’s had to eat enough crap for one year! Hell…for a lifetime!
You know, it may seem that August is just a short few weeks away, but..anything can happen in a New York minute! I haven’t given up on the possibility that there is a miracle just waiting for the right circumstances to allow it to unfold!
Hey all, I just caught the end of something on FOX, that the Gallup poll has McCain tied with nobana at 44% and the McCain is taking offense that he is saying that if he McCain is elected that women will no longer have control over their reproductive organs. McCain again called on nobana again to debate him and say it too his face. This is something else we maybe can use. Nobama is trying to scare American women into voting for him. He can try to scare us but is afraid to defend his stance in a debate What do you all think?
#611 k in northwest
The 109+ million made by the Clintons I believe it was over 7 years, or about 15million or so annually. Also, out of that they paid 33 million in taxes and 10 million to charities. The net comes to about 9 million annually (more or less).Sorry if I misled anyone earlier. If I am wrong, please feel free to correct me. I believe she has already resigned herself to not getting the 10 million + she personally donated but would I believe after some date in August that she can no longer use money she receives to pay off her debt. She has to have it paid off before then in order to use the contributions for her debt. I guess her and President Clinton would have to come up with the rest of the money to pay vendors, etc. either through personal loans or their own savings. Not sure if they can wrte any of it off. Technically that would be about 2 years of their salary that they would lose if they had to pay all of 20million plus. To us they still make alot of money but they have worked hard for their money and as far as I am concerned — good for them and for all the taxes they have paid for us and all the charitable orgnizations they have helped!!
So, this is why the urgency to get her debt paid off before the deadline.
#619 There is a link here to contribute.
Murphy has 2 delightful little kitties serving margaritas upstairs. Come quench your thirst
P.S. Many may have drunk the kool-aide, but we should be serving up the PUMA SUMA COCKTAIL:
BHO WILL NOT BE ELECTED!
I had a feeling that some might slam me for my question.
If Hillary was not now walking beside Obama I would be still pitching in whatever money I could.
If I remember right Hillary was promising up through the very last week that she was going to take this all the way to the Convention. In fact I gave quite a bit that week and did phone calls on her behalf.
Telling everyone to support Obama is not my idea of taking her campaign all the way to the Convention.
Right now it looks like the only people that are going to take it to the Convention are the Hillary supporters who still have some common sense.
So for now I just dont feel that I want to take a chance on any portion of anything I give landing in Obama’s or the DNC’s lap.
I have already been donating my money to some other anti-Obama causes and John McCain, and that is what I will continue to do when I can.
#518 BigCatLover:
It’s that darn man me again (and fellow big cat lover, remember?).
I meant no harm toward Taffy. It’s just the dumb in me, I guess that has a poor way with words. Actually, I thought I was being pretty objective when “slamming” her with that “she wouldn’t make a good puma” line after reading the posts as always Obama this and Obama that and 150% a supporter. But I didn’t mind the presence of this individual either. I just read’m as I see’m. I also love being honest and as objective as possible when spouting off. You’ll never see me spew like an Obama phony, that I can assure you.
I’m really very accepting of others and their opinions. I learned a lot of peace, love and understanding at Woodstock in 1969 to know the value of tolerance.
Remember, I’m a guy from Mars. I don’t visit Venus often enough to know how to interpret exactly the things a Taffy individual might post. I’m assuming Taffy is a girl, by the way… and probably a very nice one at that.
Anyhoot, I stand by what I stated unless an apology is desired. It really wasn’t a big deal. But if a fellow cat lover thought poorly of me for even an instance I will suck in the pride and apologize. My lack of ego and Woodstock upbringing doesn’t mind me getting along with others at all.
Rose city friend and k in the northwest. Am also up here with you. Just on the other side bridge north of Vancouver WA!
It will be interesting, IF this is true if he (Obama) sees any jail time.
#350 PumaAllie
If you would have asked me after the Texas primaries about the joint ticket with Hillary as VP I would have agreed to it, but after I found out more about HBOs “friends” there’s no chance that I will EVER start to think about voting for the ticket if Hillary is VP. His “friendships” are very scary to me and I am not taking a chance on my family’s and my life.
For 5 years now, we are paying more than $3,000 for Blue Cross of California medical insurance for the family of 3–me, my husband and our 5 year old son with heart disease. About 2 days ago, my uncle and I filled the car at Costco–we paid $59. I haven’t been able to find a job since Bush became President, but I can put up with another 4 years rather than let somebody who is close friends with terrorists access to controlling my life.
Today I can say to my uncle–remember the good old days in ’90s when the gas was $1, $1.20, $1.75 was considered EXTREMELY expansive (I am in North Cal). The good old days when we paid $7/unit in college during the summer and $5/unit during the school year. Today we are paying between $17/unit and $20/unit. At a State University it’s more than $2,000 per semester if you take 6 units instead of full load=12 units. In 2000 when I was graduating we paid $1,000 for anything above 6 units. Those were the “good old days”.
I am sorry, but I can’t even think about voting for HBO. I just hope that Hillary will not accept the VP position. I don’t want to hurt her, but I just can’t vote for him under any circumstances.
READ Post # 606 by Roxy in Cali.
She rocks with the letter to her friend…
Way to go Roxy !!! I don’t know you but if you sent that to everyone of your friends… I am sure they will think again about Obama… I haven’f finished reading it but I wanted to tell folks to check it out..
I have 2,800 emails I need to send this weekend.
Please WORK HARD – FELLOW PUMAS. Time is very very short. Stand up and be counted in ways that count.
#620 sandipuma
I couldnt agree with you more. Get the atten to get more voters to ‘not fall in line’ and stand with us. More public pressure on SD’s. Ellen works.
#628 RoseCityfriend
I’m glad I could make you smile today. I’m trying to get through Donna’s “wall of hatred,” since she can’t listen to our talking points otherwise.
Beyond that, I’m still pushing to get Obama to agree to weekly town hall meetings with John McCain, because I think it’s the best way to expose his weaknesses and open the door for Hillary to get the nomination in Denver. So I’m baiting Donna today.
“Droning your repetitious (and BORing!) stump speech on what you claim is a historic day? ”
AMEN!
When he talked about “change” in that SAME OLD way, I snapped, “start with your SPEECH” and just left.
Also…they turned his MIC way up after Hillary.
Ty Diva 2 for the information—I apologize for my misunderstanding.
It still does not change my mind about who I will donate to. Like I said earlier I just dont like thinking that even a small part of my money might end up in the laps of Obama or the DNC.
#637 maxgrader
A Puma from Mars! Love it!
My response to Hillary,
Dear Hillary,
For over tens years now, I have stood with you; as our First Lady, then Senator from New York, and in your campaign for the Presidency. I will continue to stand with you as you fulfill your promises to the American people and the Democratic Party you’ve spent your adult life serving.
I am deeply disappointed by the current state of affairs. We are on the wrong road Hillary. As much as I understand unity is essential to winning this election, the ideals of democracy that so many before us have given their freedom and very lives to uphold; is larger than this election.
I can not in good conscience support this unveiled candidate simply because his position papers and his speeches would have us believe he is of like mind. Barack Obama’s history, his dismissive conduct toward fellow Americans, and his unscrupulous campaign tactics might have prevailed in the short term, but I see them as red flags. His shady associations, his hired cyber-bullies, and the hated expressed by many of his supporters reflect his distain for the values and needs of most Americans.
Barack Obama described his candidacy accurately when he said, “We don’t need the people. We need the checks.”
Hillary, we are rolling the dice based upon rousing speeches and artful fundraising. History has shown this precedent to be treacherous waters to navigate in the long-term.
I will continue to work toward retiring your debt.
Respectfully,
Name
Co. State
btw, the reason people left so quickly is that the heavens sent down a thundersquall.
hey everyone!
i watched Hillary and…that other guy today…had the volume turned down (just couldnt listen) sad…but I still believe we will have that miracle!
I wasnt sure where to ask this and from what I’ve been reading here, it’s easy to figure out this is one of the best places to get a good answer:
I know that delegate Debra Bartoshevich has about 10 days to challenge the DNC (i believe) in order to remain a delegate. I remember reading somewhere (someone had posted) a few rules for delegates and i cant really remember but i’m pretty sure one said something about how a delegate cannot lose their rights for saying who their preference is…i hope i’m making sense.
the reason i’m asking for rules about this is i feel since she only has a certain amount of days to contest this, shouldn’t we send those specific rules to the DNC or anyone who is in charge of making the final decision? If we send these in mass quantity, i’m sure that would help make it obvious to some that we will know whether or not her delegate status was taken against the rules…
or am i just babbling on and on without any direction? lol
#647 alohapuma
Outstanding letter. A+
#628 Rose city Friend I have been watching news on and off today and it has been a GREAT day for us. One of our group really laid things out this morning after the rally and said we will not vote for noname, no matter what. He really got the point across (he was on fox news). There has been talk on Fox and CNN (tho I never watch this anymore but just wanted to check) re: the Clinton voters who say they WILL not vote for noname. Wexler was on CNN at the time and he said the dems are definitely united and look at Florida — they are ALL united there….??? no comment. fox has brought up the issue several times throughout the day. There were about a hundred plus of us at the rally (not me, just what I heard). EVERYDAY we get more publicity. OUr message IS getting out and loud and clear — we ARE doing the right things.
I hate to admit it but I watched msnbc to see Chris Matthews? to hear the vile things he had to say. He must have had a brain transplant because he was just glowing about Senator Clinton. I have not watched NBC for a few months but was thrilled that their ratings were in the tank. I still will NEVER watch them and today was a fluke and just curious. I seldom watch CNN anymore as well.
Also, there was a guy at the rally that used to work for Senator Clinton’s campaign and he had a shirt on that said he was a McCain democrat. Heard them talk about him but didn’t see him.
Tonight, apparently Hannity and Colmes are going to show there is NO unity in democrat unity-land.
Hope that helps…
#216 Taffy
“Oh God “In Obama We Trust””
Oh dear God. Gaggeth unto me with a spoon! I’m sorry but that is elevating him to the status of a flippin God. That’s just plain sickening. Come on! (And yes I know this is coming from his website. =P My comment wasn’t directed at you Taffy)
btw, the media who interviewed those of us who were there were interested mostly in one thing: who were we gonna vote for?
And here’s another tidbit: their eyes glazed over if you tried to speak of sexism. But they nodded eagerly if you mentioned WHY you trusted John McCain more than Obama…because who knows what Obama stands for, he’s so inexperienced and has spent so much time just flipflopping.
And the most interesting thing? They all already knew of PUMApac and of the hits Murphy has been getting here.
I think the time is ripe to get her on more shows!
#645 k in northwest. You know, however you donate, it sounds like it is still what we are all about and I think we all feel do what your heart tells you to do. It is all worthwhile as long as it doesn’t go to noname.
What is with Rendell — totally uncool. I’m back and watching the channel I never watched before this campaign — Fox. What is with Rendell? Ugh on him.
READ Post # 606 by Roxy in Cali.
BRAVO – What a well written letter. Please post it on other blogs…
Roxy – you echoed my sentiment completely
We who are not natural born citizens are so fierce about our love for America. America has enabled us to be all we can be, no handouts, no freebies… There is gold on them streets,, you just have to believe it and work your HEART AND SOUL to find it. To turn our country over to someone like Obama whose love for his country and fellow non White countrymen is extremely questionable is very disturbing for us. Bush is on his way out, we don’t need to shoo in another disaster – America deserves and needs something better.
You guys we are upstairs having margarita!!
“Was that one of our Puma’s?
How did they silence our Pumas?”
GoKim….what they did was purge the crowd before Obama came on. Secret service, pat downs, the works.
Did anyone see John? He was live on Fox at 4:15.
#381
PUMAs! To those of you just coming in and reading back posts, please don’t be hard on Taffy. These are NOT her opinions. She (=/ I think?) is just posting comments from Obama’s website so we can see what his supporters are saying.
diva 2 #651
Thank you for sharing your insights about MSNBC, FOX, and CNN. I cannot stand watching their programs anymore. It is good to hear that PUMA is making an impact.
Just watching the re-run now. Is he playing the race card again? Hillary is doing a good job, but she looks sad. If O needs all this help from Senator Clinton, needs help from President Clinton, exactly why is he the nominee? I don’t see Romney running all over the country with McCain. Why doesn’t he leave Hillary alone and stand on his own two feet and quit bothering President Clinton too. They both have other things to do but babysit Senator Obama.
Vote with a bullet VOTE McCain!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJF547Mv62A
Hi everyone, I have been sitting here in Ohio and just overwhelmed with so many different emotions. I have to say, that when I heard the contrast in Hillary’s heart felt and sincere speech next to the we need Hillary so I’ll tell you why I “should” love her speech, it sparked that enthusiasm again in me to do everything I can to get her elected. I truly thought I would be crying. Based on the way she words her emails, and some of the ways she emphasizes things I just know that she is trying to tell us not to give up. I recall reading not too long ago, that if Hillary could pay down her debt and show that she could draw the funds to continue her campaign, the supper delegates would be even more likely to back her up. I’m sure that is what she is saying in the memory book, her emails, when she emphasizes the need to take back our country with out saying it should be Nobama, etc. I think since I don’t have money to contribute, and am limited in so many other ways, I am going to try to blog, or write papers or what ever I can to try to help Nobama self-destruct. I love coming here and reading all of your comments, but I am allowing it to take up precious time that I could be using to further our cause. So, I have decided to get busy and check in when or if I start to feel discouraged or too distanced from the pact. Puma’s need other Puma’s to protect us from extinction. “United we stand. Divided we fall.”
Here’s one,
I’m not angry because Hillary lost. I just don’t want to regret that Nobama won !!!
Good Lord, Larry King is doing his whole show on the “body language”.
HBO said “America needs Bill and Hillary Clinton.” If this is true, what do we need HIM for?
He has alot of money behind him but we can’t be bought. And we certainly don’t need anymore of the hate spewing from the pro-Obama blogs.
FirebellePuma, your letter was so on the mark and I just want to thank you for putting it all so eloquently in perspective. It’s really NOT all about Hillary anymore. No matter what she says, I will NOT cast my vote for Obama.
Ladyhawke, I think someone is using your name over at taylor marsh and blogging that they are “following Hillary Clintons request to support the Democratic Nominee”. I don’t remember which diary it was under, but I’m pretty sure it was your name, and I definitely remember the *61 being used to refer to Obama.
Speaking of which, if anyone here has the stomach for it, we could use some posts defying the party unity thing. Taylor Marsh is “feeling the unity finally and loving it”. Its crowing with pro Obama who are anything but gracious in our “defeat”. I keep trying to tell them PUMA’s number more than their 4,000, according to Women for Fair Politics, we are at least 2.5 million and growing, but I’m not getting anywhere. Coming here is great, its like taking a refreshing shower and being clean again, but we can’t ignore the obamabutts on all the other blogs. We need to know what they are saying and be able to counter it. Its a nasty, nasty business. But we can’t operate in a vacuum either.
It seems like all of the *61 supporters believe that if they say it is so, it will be so. If they say there is unity, everyone will believe there is unity. If they say *61 has double digit leads in the polls, they will get others to jump on their bandwagon and increase his lead. So much manipulation is exhausting! Where do they find the time to think of all this “stuff (a classic *61 word)”
If the 18,000,000 people who voted for Hillary each gave $1.00, her debt would be pretty much paid off.
I agree! I will be contributing to help pay down her debt! She don’t need his blood money, she needs us. I also live in WA and would like to join the others here, I live in southeast WA near the Oregon border. I will keep on fighting for Hillary and try to help her to take it to the convention and a roll call. I can’t be there, except in spirit, but I’ll give what I got, both to Hillary and to PUMA. I’m sick of pleas from Howard Dean. I will never vote for BHO!
blessings one and all
Witchy 1
Does anyone know how long Hillary’s campaign office in Virginia will be receiving mail? Is it best to send thank you notes to her senate office or to the campaign office? I want to include a “ONE IN 18 MILLION” wristband. I’m concerned that the senate mail security might have problems.
I’m only giving money to McCain and to retire her debt.
jdona – you know, you’re absolutely right. hold your nose and go say your articulate piece on their blogs.
WOW! I will have to catch up more tomorrow. Only got to post #105 here. I read the entire previous post about the rally. Ugh. It was almost more than I could stomach.
My take is this was for show, had to be done. I would like a body language expert to weigh in on the charade. It sounds like some signals were being given from both H & O. Interesting.
My other big thought is this. Putting Hillary out there on the same stage as O may just backfire on the big “unity” plan. The more people see them together, the more people have a chance to really compare them. We ALL know who will come out the winner in those comparisons! A silver lining, perhaps? Hillary will outshine him every time. Maybe this is just what we need to happen to make people wake up!?! I sure hope so.
Gotta get some sleep……fight on PUMAS!
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