DAILY TALKING POINT 6/24/08: BARACK OBAMA STANDS FOR NOTHING AND NOBODY BUT HIMSELF. HIS CAVE ON THE HOUSE’S FISA COMPROMISE PROVES THAT HE WILL BETRAY THE WISHES AND INTERESTS OF HIS OWN CORE CONSTITUENCY IN ORDER TO GET ELECTED.
It may take more than a band-aid, but we’re here to help!
Today’s ACTION is to send a band-aid to Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean to let them know that we are prepared to do everything we can to fix our party, heal the divide, and reunite for ALL Democrats in ALL 50 states.
- Copy and paste this message into your own document
- Sign it with your First Initial, Last Name, County/State, and Puma PAC underneath
- Grab a bandaid and paste it to the letter
- Mail it to any or ALL of the addresses at the bottom of the post.
This Band-aid Will NOT Heal the Democratic Party, but we’re here to help!Mission Statement
There will be no unity in the Democratic party until the voices of the 18 million voters who support Hillary Clinton are heard and heeded. Until the voices of Pumas are once again listened to by the leadership of the Democratic party, we will be guided by defiance. We will treat insult with uprightness and will meet disdain with disdain. We will not be bullied, brainwashed, or bossed into falling in line.
We are motivated to action by our shared belief that the current leadership of the Democratic National Committee has abrogated its responsibility to represent the interests of ALL democrats in ALL 50 states. They are misleading our party and aim to mislead our country into nominating an illegitimate candidate for president in 2008.
Your Signature and this disclaimer at the bottom:
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ADDRESSES:
HOWARD DEAN
Howard Dean, Chairman / Democratic National Committee/ 430 S. Capitol St. SE / Washington DC 20003 Fax: 202-863-8174 or email: HowardDean@dnc.com
NANCY PELOSI
Hon. Nancy Pelosi / Office of the Speaker / H-232, US Capitol / Washington, DC 20515
OR
Hon. Nancy Pelosi, Speaker / 235 Cannon House Office Building / Washington, DC 20515-0508
OR EMAIL SPEAKER PELOSI at
americanvoices@mail.house.gov OR sf.nancy@mail.house.gov OR http://www.house.gov/pelosi/ OR info@nancypelosiforcongress.com
(If you are using email, grab a band-aid graphic off the net)
If you have any problem downloading or copying this letter, please email marylandpuma@gmail.com for the PDF.
ACTION UPDATE 6/24/08 AT 1:15PM: IF YOU ARE IN THE DC AREA, PLEASE JOIN THIS PROTEST ON THURSDAY, JUNE 26TH AT THE MAYFLOWER HOTEL: Rally Thursday, June 26, in front of the Mayflower Hotel in DC to protest the meeting of Clinton and Obama with Clinton’s fundraisers. If any of you can go please do…. remember BHO acts as though he does not need us… yet he wants our money! (Wear black, bring signs that read “Free Hillary,” “Don’t take her $$,” Or “Retire her debt!” (h/t goanderson)
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Good Morning Pumas
Our daily hot links have been updated this morning along with our newest post:
Obama’s New Problem: Religious Leader Ends His Silence
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-new-problem-religious-leader.html
From my post today, Something every vote should remember:
I personally am opposed to single-issue or movement voters. I believe that in our lives and in our government, everyone must be willing to make concessions to protect and create prosperity within our future. I personally have reservations on some of John McCain’s positions, but I also realize the historical dangers presented by semi-socialist positions and over-pandering of Barack Obama. An electorate should not be driven by any single issue, let alone those that polarize our nation and split the electorate. Americans need to remember that the greatest leaders of this nation all had one thing in common; they understood the necessity to prioritize the functions of government. The greatest leaders of our nation understood that first function of government was to protect ours and our ally’s sovereignty, followed by promoting economic prosperity, and finally addressing social and cultural reforms. The Obama campaign has made it clear that expect to win this election by breaking down our society into neatly formed groups who only vote based upon single-issues. Remember that in the months ahead.
Have a great day and remember to give to PumaPac and visit the advertisers on Puma network websites so that our community can keep on fighting to restore sanity to this election.
I’m willing to do the flowers for colorado
Here is another interesting read from Marc Rubin
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/
Murphy- hopefully you and he have been in touch? Again, joining forces.
I heard some moron on CNN this morning again saying that there is evidence that Clinton voters are going to BO. I didn’t listen to the story because it was to early to start the day in such a bad mood!
Glad to be here to brighten my day!
good morning everyone,
i have a ton of e-mails regarding flowers. i’m going to go look at them and then i’ll let you know where we stand. i’ll try to anser a few things here. if i skipped you sorry i didn’t mean to.
#161 naplespuma- I think the more the better!
#174 hotsky i thought of that but not sure who to contact. any suggestions.
#182 kat i’m not sure if michigan is taken, let me check my emails. thanks.
#201 mijabsnji some are doing this but alot can’t be sent in that way so it’s up to each individual state. thanks.
#230 elaine. thank you. that’s why i picked that color and i’m hoping Hillary knows this.
#259 battle for the hill did you email me?
these are from previous thread.
taffy did you e-mail me?
****** ADDENDUM ********
There is a ready made note attached to the Daily Growl as well. Just print, sign, and stick on a band aid. LOL
MarylandPUMA
And dangit Murphy I must have sent you the wrong jpg. Will resend if it’s not to much trouble to replace the one upstairs.
No sheila, sorry I did not
Just a thought …if we use the same florist will they have enough yellow roses?
T-HIRTS———–MUGS—————–T-SHIRTS
I just wanted all new members to know that you can buy t-shirts and mugs from the PUMA Pac site. Just go back to home page and find the link for PUMA Pac Gear. Click on this and there you will find the colors of the t-shirts, descriptions and prices of both. You can pay by credit card, check or money order. If paying by check, send Murphy an e-mail. She will send you the address to use.
murphy@pumapac.com
Also,if you want to donate money to this site thru the mail, send it to the same address as you did for the shirts.
The mission statement above is perfectly put and inspiring.
I am still appalled and enraged by the misogyny and sexism that occurred.
Some of the sexist statements from Obama surrogates were so offensive to me, they might as well have used the c*** word.
That’s why I’m for McCain 2008!
#8 SHOULD BE T-SHIRTS, SORRY!
We will soon have other items available to get the PUMA Pac word out.
Notepads, window clings, bumper stickers, pens, post-its, fridge magnets and other goodies that are cheap, used every day, and easy to ‘give away’.
What’s your pleasure?
Mornin’ Pumas
I could use some help on another forum. Does anyone know anything about Peter Paul’s allegations against Hillary? We’ve got someone over there who keeps referring to Hillary as “a criminal”. I’ve ignored it up til now, but would like to put it to rest.
As I understand it, Peter Paul alleges campaign fraud.
Thanks
#11 Maryland Puma
Great!!! Can’t wait!
#11 Maryland Puma
I sent you an email - Thanks
A quick link to a bandaid image
http://blogs.itworldcanada.com/security/files/2007/08/bandaid.jpg
#5 Maryland PUMA…..Great Flyer!!!
MESSAGE FROM NEW ENGLAND PUMA
RE: Unity, NH campaign appearance
If there are any New England PUMAs wanting to make an appearance in UNITY NH this Friday I could drive three others from the Boston area.
Please email MarylandPUMA@gmail.com and I will send member your email addresses for contact.
Murphy, thank you for going to the media. Good job in the interview!
With such corrupted main stream media and monopoly, I think it is good time for people with entrepreneurship to start new media business that really voice democracy and stand out. It can be TV, radio stations, magazines, newspapers, books, online newsletters… I am not an expert but just throw a thought here.
I was happy, so happy, to see PUMA Pac out there. JSND is getting much attention and does not promote us at all. Kind of disappointing.
Someone on another thread talked about turning their backs to Obama while he is speaking about unity. I love that idea!
Alohapuma
Thanks for the email.
Yeah, and hold that PUMA Pac sign up over the back of your head. LOL
#12 alohapuma… who is Peter Paul?
Murphy
AWESOME! That’s more like it. I’m gonna do a flier with that image too.
Maryland PUMA
I love the morning growl
Well Done!
Fox just announced that Bill Clinton is supporting *61. But won’t be at the Unity Rally.
I don’t really understand how they can support him when they know he is so wrong for the country.
#12 alohapuma… where is the blog?
To All
If any one still needs to do the Flip Flop Daily Growl I would like to pass along what I did that was helpful for me $wise.
I sent store ads with Flip FLops on sale. I sent it along with a message that - “Since you do go thru so MANY flip flops they are ON SALE - Stock Up Now!”
It was inexpensive (just postage and some print ltr print outs) and still got my message out.
Great idea on the ground troops to help family and friends join & help us even thought they do not have internet or $’s.
#22 wondbackdown - Peter Paul was one of the producers of the Hollywood gala to help elect Hillary to the Senate in 2000. There are a couple of videos on YouTube about this…all innuendo…
The huntress in me would like to snarf this guy. He’s been calling Hillary a criminal for months over there and people listen to him.
Just a quick note from an independent. I’ve been watching PUMA from the day you started and can say you are really having an impact. All the BO supporters I know are beginning to sweat and they all know who you are.
I wouldnt have thought it possible considering the msm bias.
Congratulations.
YEA! Thank you snowtiger for that wonderful update.
#4 sheila7:
FOX NEWS REPORT:
WASHINGTON — Hillary Rodham Clinton is returning to Congress Tuesday for the first time since suspending her presidential campaign.
The New York Democrat will attend the Senate Democrats’ caucus lunch Tuesday, and she has also been invited to Wednesday’s meeting of House Democrats, her spokesman, Philippe Reines, said.
the small ripples become tidal waves
#29 Snowtiger
Cool!!!
#29 snowtiger… yes, they are starting to come here.
Snippet from Fox News Articledabout Bill “supporting” Obama (on their past clashes)
“During one debate Obama snapped at Hillary Clinton, “I can’t tell who I’m running against sometimes.”
……..Well, BO, You are running against yourself, now!
Terig #25
It’s politics. that’s all. they don’t mean it. It’s like putting on a smile in the last family photo before the divorce.
You do it for the kids, to be nice, because everyone expects you to. . .
It’s not lying really — it’s just politics.
I also received an email this morning from John McCain. He has a list of 30 Democrats that are no longer holding positions that are supporting him. I think there are some major threats going to people that are holding positions.
Thanks Snowtiger!
Larry Sinclair was out jail yesterday…
He just released “What Really Happened At The National Press Club”,
“I AM BACK, AND I AM NOT GOING AWAY”
larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/
I believe what Larry Sinclair told about his sex and drug thing with OB is true. I don’t understand why the media totally ignored it. If any other person in public office has this kind of dirty and criminal things he would be kick out of office long time ago, not mentioning running for president of the country.
Forgive my lack of expertise, but where can I get a band-aid graphic off the net? Been trying, but …
Thanks!
snowtiger #29 — great news!
It is also so wonderful to see and hear all the up-till-now stealthy pumas popping their heads up!
#39 HeySandy
See post #15
Hope that helps.
I found you the day Hillary suspended her campaign and am so thankfull I did, I love all of you and everything we are doing
heysandy
image at #15
Taffy,
I’ve got you in for CO. thanks.
Kat, Ive got you in for MI. please confirm that you’ve seen this. thanks.
i’ve got my updated list so let me get that together and let everyone know where we are. almost there.
#31 wontbackdown, great info thanks
HeySandy
Check your email. I sent you one.
did someone ask me for a blog address. I could swear someone did, but now I’m not seeing it.
Need another cup of java
Question
When I do my daily growl today do you think it is okay if may bandage does not stick in all places to show that it does not work and eventually it comes off?
Opinions or suggestions please?
Hey there PUMAs,
I seaked back here to let you know of another flip/flop … oh hell, it’s just an outright lie… to add to our list of the past week’s nobama snafus.
Please read.
http://savagepolitics.com/
I am working on the king nobama graphic and list.
Glad to hear that everything is all right Murphy. Thanks for all you do.
aloha..peter paul is one of those things that’s never really been clear so no way to fight it now but BO will use against Hillary. It’s part of the so called baggage which has been out there for years. There was a party for Bill in CA with several big donors when he was supposedly going to go into business with Peter Paul. Most of the money ended up going to Hillary’s campaign fund for Senate. There was one amount of 700,000 in particular that was the main basis and a fine was paid to FEC. Hillary is named in the court case which is still ongoing. The question is whether she knew about all this fund raising in advance. There’s tons of info on the iternet. Again pro Clinton vs anti Clinton. Anti saying she and Bill are typical politicians getting favoritism etc. I figure if nothing has been done in the courts in over 7 years it can’t be too strong a case against Hillary. Anti’s again saying political strings being pulled. Hillary should be indicted on felony charges. Waste of breath to argue what courts aren’t even sure about. If you want to argue do some reading on google and try to figure it out. I can’t cause it’s kind of likee the stuff with MO. did she or didn’t she.
I mean “sneaked” back …
Thanks Murphy, I just keep hoping that good will prevail. I think it will happen it is just taking longer than I would like. Keep up the great work. Everyone I know has always been a diehard democrat and is now voting for McCain. They are just very quiet about what they are doing.
LOLOLOL…band-aids.
1of18MilforHill08…Thanks for the good idea…I can save money too! Wasn’t going to participate, now will!
LilyMaid
Dollar stores have cheap flip-flops for a buck. (that’s $1.00, not a deer. LOL)
I am having too much fun with these Growls.
Thanks all for the compliments.
#50 Taffy… Oh that “PP”… sorry I even asked. I had forgotten that they had tried to make an issue of that.
Sheila 7
Got reply from first email I sent you as stated in contents re: $ can you put me down for Mini Snow Dah (MN)? Would very much like my state included.
Also - did you get my second one? Know your busy. Thanks for doing this project.
Let me know what you need and what we are using for our names.
here is where we stand on the flowers.
The states that we have represented right now are:
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
California
Canada
Colorado
Connecticut
Florida
Kentucky
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Missouri
Nevada
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Tennessee
Texas
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Murphy, your interview is on the Just Say No Deal website.
Again, great job!
28 States! Wow! Someone should tell BO we only need 40 more!
Are you sending state flowers or yellow roses?
Terrig #52 — EXACTLY!
The Protest of the 2008 Election can and will be done very quietly. in ohio, pennsylvania, michigan, florida, and other places.
Our job is to warn the leadership that it IS GOING TO HAPPEN so they can wake up from the kool-aide stupor.
also, on your earlier point about OBots sweating — my Troll dungeon is BRIMMING with insulting and hair-tearing-out condescending little beasties. I may do a special post devoted entirely to them! they are SO cute! in a gross, boring, and stupid way.
Lordy, I’m having one of those email days where I want to delete all the things I have to do and start over again.
But I won’t cuz I luff you aw.
#60 ?
Try 30 more for his “slip? of the # of states comment” if that is what you are referring to.
Sheila7
Are ppl sure that they are going to get the connection with the roses being yellow that you told me about?
Just came across a good article.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MzQ4YTY4YjQyMzRjYjA5MGZlNDBiZTkwYmEyODg5NTc=&w=MA#more
Really hits the nail on the head for 10 reasons not to vote for BO.
Great piece on
http://paganpower.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/not-far-from-the-tree/
about the threatening behavior of the ‘obama cultists’ towards anyone who disagrees with the big O
see post #58. we just added Minnesota.
Thanks Taffy….I did some reading. I’m not going to respond it. The frothing Pro-Obama voices are really starting the flail!
Maryland Puma - thanks for all you do.
Sent flip-flops yesterday and bandaids today.
Want to get stickers for my car and house.
Keep up the good work.
#61 maryland puma
most of us are sending yellow roses but some people are more comfortable with their state flower so some people will be sending those.
mpdamon,
tryed to email you back but it was undeliverable
You know. I am so curious as to why BO even needs Hillary or Bill. After all, can’t he “win without Fl or Mich” and probably…… TX, KT, NY, MT, CA, NV…. an all of all those other state “PRIMARIES” with the most voters voting that he lost?
I was hoping someone could answer this question for me:
Right now, it appears that I have donated $2,300 to Hillary’s campaign and am certainly interested in helping Hillary pay off her campaign debt. I believe that the limit for donating to a candidate during the primary season is $2,400. But now that Hillary is out of the race, does that limit still apply?
he needs to know in no uncertain terms no matter what he dose or how he uses Hillary we will not vote for him!
#11 marylandpuma
magnetic bumper stickers.
#64 1of18MilforHill08… I was just take it to the extreme, being really sarcastic.
sheila:
mpdamon@comcast.net
I need stuff for my car, do we have anything yet? For my lawn to
Murphy,
Save them! Some blogger…I think Texas Darlin’ puts all of “them” and their intimidating nasty comments on one page.
It powerful reading them all together. Makes a good point.
#73 wontbackdown
As soon as Obama declared himself America’s boywonder and said he was the nominee, he immediately stated he was looking forward to Bill’s support, his knowledge and his experience.
Obama knows he needs Bill and people with his understanding of running the country, I wondered though if Obama realized there would begin to be disgruntlings amongst his supporters when the real obama came forth and if he thought having Bill in tow would save his sorry ***.
But I have faith in Bill, and I do not believe he will play Obama’s game, actually I can see Bill with a smirk a mile wide as Obama tries to kiss up to him. And I don’t beleive much of what the media says about endorements and support til I hear it from the horse’s mouth.
This is going to be fun to watch. I’ll be stocking up on popcorn just to watch the comedy hour, otherwise known as the evening news.
I’m trying to send an email to murphy@pumapac.com in order to get the mailing address but the email is being returned: User Unknown
Help.
murphy@pumapac.org
posting from another site
Rally Thursday, June 26, in front of the Mayflower Hotel in DC to protest the meeting of Clinton and Obama with Clinton’s fundraisers.
If any of you can go please do…. remember BHO acts as though he does not need us… yet he wants our money!
(Wear black, brings signs that
read “Free Hillary”, Don’t take her $$”. Or “Retire her debit!” “NOB!”)
Just dropped my bandaids in the mail. I included a PUMA $44 bill in each, just for good measure.
Morning everyone (or afternoon for some),
Well, after thinking things over I decided the one small way I could help HC today was to help her pay down her campaign debt.
Contribution Details
Date: June 24, 2008 12:15 PM CDT
Amount: $50.00
I will contribute to PUMA Pac after July 1st. I just hope that HC can pay off her debt as soon as possible, if not she will have to continue attending functions and fundraisers with BO. Yuk! I feel awful for her.
Have a great day,
Lara08
i’m not sure who asked before but i called 1800flowers and they said it shouldn’t be a problem to get that many yellow roses. also, i confirmed with her office that she will be at the senate tomorrow.
murphy@pumapac.ORG
We need a “PUMA Pal” day.
Blog some names of people who have stood by HRC or shouted out against the corruption we have witnessed in this election.
In addition to growling at the misguided, we need to support those who continue to vet BHO and stay true to Democracy.
Shout ‘em out. I’m makin a list!
Thanks!
now i have another problem. a lady at her office said they already turned away flowers for her today because they weren’t notified ahead of time. they need to know they are coming and from whom. i wasn’t sure what to tell her. do i tell her all 50 states? i’m not sure they’ll accept them and i didn’t know whether to tell her we were doing this. what do you guys think?
#87 Sheila7
I read the message you posted last night. I’m glad someone had TX covered. Also, are there plans to record this in some way? Will the press know the flowers are being sent or is someone else being asked to take a picture of this at least?
Thanks for doing this!
Lara
I don’t think it would be a problem if you told her when they were to arrive and who was sending the flowers. What does she mean by who is sending them? 1-800-flowers is sending them. I’m glad she told you about this ahead of time.
Murphy there was a wonderful article in my daily newspaper by Floyd and Mary Beth Brown: Media’s Love for Obama infects coverage. I want to email it to you and maybe you could put it on the web site. I called the 800 # to tell them I appreciated the article and was told to email them @ browns@caglecartoons.com I am not real computer “savey” so tell me if you receive this.
Hi Roland, I believe the most we can give is 2300 to the primary campaign. So I don’t think those of us who have maxed out can give to the debt pay down. I suppose we should check with S. Clinton’s campaign office though about that
#87 sheila7… forgot to mention to ask the Senate Office and 800 floweres if there is any problem sending “flowers to the Senate” offices due to security.
check this out http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/obama-accused-of-distorting-bible/20080624100309990001?icid=200100397×1204712488x1200209884
Also, sheila, was it “anonymous” who donated $300 to flowers. May should ask Murphy or MarylandPuma if that “anonymous” is legit.
Greetings to you’ll!
The flowers gesture very nice! Kudos to all PUMA bloggers, you are making it happen.
My SSDI check comes in tomorrw and I’ll be getting my PUMA t-shirt and bumper sticker.
I can hardly wait to wear my t-shirt here in Austin, Tx where there are too many Obama nuts.
How long have we been PUMAs?
Let’s have an anniversary date established, so we can pop the cork and celebrate accomplishments…
Down here is 100 degrees so you’ll stay cool!
…“anonymous” I came to the conclusion last night that “anonymous” was just a real covert troll???
Thanks mpk.
This is only my second time on this site since signing up a few weeks ago. Needed a break from politics. So now, I have another question:
What’s up with the flowers? How can I assist? I noticed a list of states represented and did not see South Carolina on it. What can I do to help?
Roland
Hi, everyone. I have a quick question about ordering the tshirt. When I go to Paypal, it doesn’t indicate the color, size or style of the tshirt I indicated in the fields on this site. Will that be recognized when someone fill the order??
I am a huge mccain supporter and I, we would like to help support this site in anyway we can. If there is any other way we can help please let us know. remember don’t vote for obama, or stay home.
Does anyone have the address of the Mayflower Hotel and the time of the protest?
I am taking the red-eye to DC tomorrow night, will get there early Thursday morning (family in tow so not making promises) but I might be able to make it.
Great article about role of delegates on the convention floor.
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880619119
Just thought, is the media going to be around when she gets the flowers?
I hope so!
It would be wonderful, so the whole country canlearn of our support for her…
Roland she has suspended. So the limits still applies. Can only do the max. Can still spend in her store. That will go toward the debt.
#97 wontbackdown,
no it was not. did you see my other post? she said we can send flowers but they need to know to expect them and who they are from.
Shelia
Have the flowers already been ordered? If not, I can arrange for a Daily Growl next week and we can make sure her office is notified that there will be tons coming.
Unless we can send them to her room at the Mayflower?
#93 Pookie - Thank you so much. What a great article! I Googled it and it came right up. Here it is for our viewers.
http://www.theunion.com/article/20080623/OPINION/355645966/-1/RSS02
Thanks Taffy! I forgot that the magic word is “suspended.” Guess I will go shopping at hillaryclinton.com
#100 rolandinsc
i will let everyone know when to place the order and each person will do on their own. many people are sending 3 yellow roses in a vase from 1800flowers and i believe the price was 29.99. did you want me to put you down for south carolina?
Welcome to the Jungle Nick PUMA and Roland SD.
Thanks nickpuma #102.
many Pumas will be Protesting the 2008 Election by voting for McCain. Some will do it unhappily, others not so much.
We appreciate your support. However, we’re still democrats– not endorsing McCain, and we’re encouraging our members to Protest in the way that best suits their conscience.
Sheila, given the security issue…..why not just send a bouquet of roses……one from each state….how much would that cost?
97 wontbackdown
TOTALLY legit.
And put on the card they’re from PUMA Pac with your member name.
#108. the flowers have not been ordered. do you think we should wait for next week? i don’t know. maybe we should. i think people wanted them sent to the senate so everyone would see them. what do you think would be best?
Everyone, I wouldn’t worry about that stupid allegation from that Peter Paul fellow. This is the same kind of slander that was done against the Clintons when they were in the White House and it’s long past crying wolf. If anyone brings it up just remind them that if Ken Starr couldn’t get anything on the Clintons (the Lewinsky thing doesn’t count because it was none of our business) then there’s nothing to find. Unlike BO.
Muphy and Marylandpuma…I just sent you an email with a list of a whole bunch of SD emails addresses.
Republicans hit hard at Obama’s image
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/06/republicans_hit_1.html
Hi Roland, I have cut and pasted the flower info below
Hi everyone,
To update anyone just checking in: We are sending flowers to welcome Hillary back to the Senate. We would like each state to be represented. This is obviously voluntary but if you would like to participate please email me at sheila7puma@gmail.com. I am keeping track of the states. When we have all states represented then we can each place our own order on the same day. You can send whatever you like but many are going with sending her 3 yellow roses in a bud vase from Here’s the link:
http://ww12.1800flowers.com/product.do?baseCode=1030&dataset=10314
You can also choose your own florist. This is just a suggestion. On the day when we get enough representation(hopefully today or tomorrow) I will call her office and find out the best place to send them. We will all write a message welcoming her back and sign it with our first name, last initial, city, state and puma democrat.
#111 Sheila–absolutely! I will gladly
I am not sure about this but I think if you are maxed out, you have to shop at HillaryGear. My purchases at HillaryClinton.com went to the $2300.
#116 each person is orderingthem seperately so that is why it might be an issue. they will be comin in at different times from different people unless i tell them they are allfrom pumapac? the message on the card will be uniform. i’ve got that worked out.
Has anyone else emailed howard dean? Did you get an error message back?
Re: Great article about role of delegates on the convention floor.
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880619119
“Tracking the money
At the state and local level, these contributions are difficult to trace. At the federal level, contributions are reported and traceable. There is a lengthy lag time. Recent figures may take weeks to be reported and analyzed; however, February records can be examined. Obama had donated to delegates more than $700,000; Clinton more than $236,000. Studies have found that a presidential candidate who gives the most money to superdelegates receives their endorsement 82 percent of the time.
The Weekly Standard commented “… if 82 percent of the superdelegates are endorsing the candidate who donated more to them, that’s indicative of something other than a belief in the ‘audacity of hope.’ It sounds like old-fashioned bribery.”
Hi Sheila, next week would be fine too. I guess we need to find out more information about what they need to know in order for the flowers to be delivered. We could also forget the flower thing and donate the money that we would have used for that to help pay down her debt and then let her know that we did that in her honor
we have added Minnesota and South Carolina to the list so that plus people who are adopting a state leave us 10 more states to go. way to go pumas.
Band-aid letters off to Dean and Pelosi
email to Pelosi,
Dean’s was bounced
#115 murphy…. are there more than one “anonymous” on here. The one late, late, last night (wee AM)???
I think we need to send the flowers before thursday and fridys events
#122 roland thank you.
#127 mpk… you know, you might be right! And send a Card with a “YELLOW ROSE” on the front???
She has a good point Sheila7???
Check out this website Obama WTF
Michelle and Jessie Jackson’s daughter childhood firends and a whole lot of information
WOW
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/06/michelle-obama-admits-she-loves-jesse.html
#131 mijabsnji
that’s what i was thinking too.
so my main question is do i tell her office to expect flowers from every state? i don’t know it it’s okay to let them know about this.
Well, I suppose that if people are maxed out on contributions to HC, they can send flowers.
Sheila7, you should try to find out what they want (senate floor or her office), before they will let the flowers go in. If you need to provide a list of people’s names from each state before the flowers are allowed to enter, then you’ll have to do that.
Nancy Pelosi,
is on Greta tonight. hmm can we come up with questions we want Greta to ask?
I’m off to the pool for some mother/daughter time. Will be back later on this afternoon.
Let me (and Murphy) know if you want to do the flowers as a Growl.
Sheila 7
I do not know if you got that message from Hillary but I just replayed mine and in the background is a vase of “yellow roses”….too cool!
Hi Everyone
I just got home…………….
The first thing I do is log in and see what’s up…..lol
IS anyone going to Unity…………..
It’s a new day, and I’m refreshed and ready !! I’m leaving on vacation for a week, but will be able to devote more time to PUMA and get caught up on letter writing .
I can’t believe how organized we’re getting, and Murphy , any bumps here, due to your appearance yesterday? We are getting stronger everyday!!
#115 murphy…. I was on another blog for a while and we had an “anonymous” that said some of the same things… seemed so supportive, but would then post things that were real covertly patronizing of other posts and then say things like… “please, kick me off”, “have a test”, go write my reports”, etc.
I could have sworn it was the same “anonymous” by the late night postings???
PA Guy
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Good day my Pumas Pals, Murphy great interview. I want everyone to know that I was a delegate for Hillary and I watched her get robbed big time in the so called caucus. I am concerned that if we do not elect one spectific solutions then we may very well give this election to *61. I did my own research if some of us vote Mc Cain, some third party and some stay home then we have no power. Remember power comes in numbers and if we continueon this path then are numbers will be spreaded to thin, am I making any sense? We need to elect on solution staying home will not work, *61 will get the votes and win, that way. Third parties are just spoliers they usually never get enough votes to win just to keep one party from winning, which may work. Now wasn’t there a gentlemen whom was working on our side whom said he had a meeting with Mc Cain and it went well, anyone on how that may work? Just thoughts my friends I say it’s time we start picking on sure way to vote an stick with that right now it seems we are out of pace , remember we are the strongest and can make the impact in the numbers by numbers.
Sheila7
What did you think of the one big bouquet 50 (or 51? Canada) roses for all? The thing I was wondering about is she will have to have someone (and I do not know how it works on the senate floor) take all of those bouquets somewhere - will that make it harder for her?
If we did one big bouquet of yellow it would cost less and the balance of the $ could go toward paying down her debt. The card message could reflect this and send a duo message….I did email you this but lately my email was acting up….could be big paws!:)
Just a thought of how we could get around some of these obsticles(sp?). Would not want all the hard work, the flowers and our message to go to waste.
Well, well, well, here we goooo Obambi! Inexperience and imcompetent, Hillary should be the nominee for Christ sake! The world is afraid of what will be happening if he wins.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MzQ4YTY4YjQyMzRjYjA5MGZlNDBiZTkwYmEyODg5NTc=&w=MA
You can bet there will be a big turnout in Unity with major media coverage.
sheila…can you check the senate schedule with her office? With July 4th coming up we need to make sure she will be around and our flowers won’t just be wilting in the background while everyone is gone. I’m sure most will probably take a lonnnng weekend. Thanks.
Just looked at the few leading headlines on ABC website now, they are not mentioning noname troubles at all, just the ones from McCain which is small compared to noname. I used to love Dianne in the morning, now she just frowns a lot when mentioning negatives of nonames opponents. GGGRRROOOWWLLLL
#147 Democratnomore - why can’t we get Hillary on the ballot for Pres at the Convention?
From Yahoo News:
Bill Clinton offers support to Obama
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Former President Clinton said through a spokesman Tuesday that he is committed to helping Barack Obama become president, his first comments in support of his wife’s former rival since their primary ended three weeks ago.
Relations between the last Democratic president and the candidate who wants to be the next one are frosty — they still haven’t spoken in the aftermath of the heated campaign. But Bill Clinton extended an offer to help in a one-sentence statement from spokesman Matt McKenna.
“President Clinton is obviously committed to doing whatever he can and is asked to do to ensure Senator Obama is the next president of the United States,” McKenna said.
It’s not clear what Obama might ask him to do. The campaign wasn’t specific when asked.
“A unified Democratic Party is going to be a powerful force for change this year and we’re confident President Clinton will play a big role in that,” said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.
Bill Clinton will not be attending the unity rally between the two former rivals Friday in New Hampshire. McKenna said the former president is in Europe this week to celebrate Nelson Mandela’s 90th birthday, give speeches and work for the William J. Clinton Foundation.
Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke Sunday and talked about Obama connecting with the former president sometime in the future, Burton said.
Hillary Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee said, “Senator Clinton is very pleased with how quickly the party is coming together after the primaries, and she will continue to do everything she can to unite Democrats behind Senator Obama as our nominee.”
Bill Clinton was an outspoken critic of Obama during the primary race. He said Obama’s opposition to the Iraq war was a “fairy tale” and raised questions about whether the first-term Illinois senator had the experience to lead the country. During one debate Obama snapped at Hillary Clinton, “I can’t tell who I’m running against sometimes.”
President Clinton has been the most valuable personality in the Democratic Party, but his angry outbursts while campaigning for his wife tarnished his image. Obama prizes a tightly controlled image and lack of drama in his campaign, which are not President Clinton’s hallmarks.
Half of respondents to an AP-Yahoo News poll conducted in mid-June viewed Bill Clinton favorably. But he took a hit among those who said they had a “very favorable” opinion of Clinton, dropping from 25 percent in December before the primary voting began to 16 percent in June. Still, the former president is one of the most popular figures in public life and he drew large, enthusiastic crowds when campaigning for his wife.
Democratic consultant Mark Kornblau said the benefits of having Bill Clinton’s help outweigh the negatives for Obama. He said Clinton could travel to economically struggling states such as Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan and talk about the prosperity under his presidency and promote Obama’s vision.
“He can connect in parts of the country where Senator Obama may need some help, like the Rust Belt, and it will help in further unifying the primary after a fractious primary,” said Kornblau, who was a spokesman for Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards. “The downside, as we saw in the primary, is that it’s a little roll of the dice. But I think it’s worth the risk.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080624/ap_on_el_pr/obama_president_clinton;_ylt=AvViP6oLhvgXP_vPu2bxZXZsnwcF
Oh, nooooooooooooooooo!! Mr. Bill!!!
NYCgirl
ACTION UPDATE 6/24/08 AT 1:15PM: IF YOU ARE IN THE DC AREA, PLEASE JOIN THIS PROTEST ON THURSDAY, JUNE 26TH AT THE MAYFLOWER HOTEL: Rally Thursday, June 26, in front of the Mayflower Hotel in DC to protest the meeting of Clinton and Obama with Clinton’s fundraisers. If any of you can go please do…. remember BHO acts as though he does not need us… yet he wants our money! (Wear black, bring signs that read “Free Hillary,” “Don’t take her $$,” Or “Retire her debt!” (h/t goanderson)
#154 NYCgirl
Yahoo associated press has had some outlandish articles during the primaries I wouldn’t put too much weight in anything they say. It’s always a source that is quoted and never the actual person. til I hear Bill say it, I won’t believe it
1 of 18millforhill08,
i did not get the e-mail but there are some people who aren’t necessarily wanting to contribute to paying her debt. although i think the one big bouquet is nice i don’t think it sends as much impact.
i talked to her office. they said she will only be there today and tomorrow. we need to get these sent for tomorrow. my only glitch is the remaining states to be accounted for, only 10 left, and they need to know the name of each person whio will send the flowers for security reasons.
anyone who is sending, could you e-mail me your name asap so i can get this to her. sheila7puma@gmail.com thanks.
#147 democratnomore- I am with you and I wish we all could come to the same agreement, although I understand that is not this blog’s nor PAC’s purpose.
But not voting is a vote for Barry.
And remember how Nader really helped blow it for Gore?
As much as I don’t agree on many of McCain’s platforms, he is not George Bush. There should be a democratic majority in the house (for all the good it has done us these past 2 years, thanks Pelosi and Reid).
McCain has said he only wants one term. He has worked bipartisanly on a lot of issues.
We in Az get no pork barrel money- he puts his money where his mouth is!
So, while I am not eager to vote for him, I wasn’t exactly eager to vote for Kerry either. I just believe he is the lesser of the two evils/.
Murphy
#103 Gosuef4hil wanted more info as to address, time etc….?
HEY, MURPHY!
I just saw the interview with NECN!!
AWESOME!! YOU REALLY ROCK, MURPHY!!
You were articulate and on point. BTW — I knew you were a woman, but I didn’t know you were a respectable mother of three! I thought you were a geeky college student, or something! (No offense to any geeks who may post here …)
Murphy, I must express my respect and gratitude for the hard work that has gone into this PAC and this website. To you and all the other PUMAs who have shown such leadership here in the past few weeks, thanks so much for allowing us to “take it from here”.
So, to marylandpuma: How about buttons with that great quote of Murphy’s:
“Thank you, Hillary Clinton. We’ll take it from here.”
I’m ready.
NYCgirl
CNN has been a huge offender when it comes to biased coverage. Their bias towards Obama just continues.
I have been boycotting their station. I think we should all be doing it so they will feel it in their ratings. Does anyone know how to find out who their sponosors are and how to contact them?
Maryland Puma
“Has anyone else emailed howard dean? Did you get an error message back?”
I sent an email this morning and didn’t have a problem. It was about 7:30.
The below recomended post.
Lisa
“Dear Howard Dean,
I am a member of the new Puma PAC, People United Means Action. Our website is http://blog.pumapac.org
#153 Dragonfly That would be GREATTTTTTTT, but did I read on here somewhere that the DNC wasn’t going to allow her on the ballot, PLEASE if we can I for one will be dancing in the streets.
#155 murphy… I went and re-read all of “anonymous” late night posts and responses again. I am sure it is the same “Yahoo” blogger.
Unless I am mis-reading which side of “legit” you mean?
Take it for what it’s worth. “anonymous” is no “real” HRC supporter.
Why besides the obivous does the AP and other MSM continue to use the words - “ended her campaign” and other to make ppl believe that it is all over for her. I do not think that way and believe she will have success at the convention as long as the “Party” doesn’t pull any more crap. But should be corrected if it is false….from her speech I got that she is “suspending” her campaign.
We need to make that point clear. So many ppl when I was passing out fliers on the ground said they thought she was done, out of the race, conceded, withdrew and on and on. Again this should be cleared up. Now with your on the forced stump with the Chosen One adds more confusion to those that do not keep up with everything. JMO
Just received this email from a coward who is trying to damage my reputation over at HuffPo. He also published my personal info over there. nice guy:
“D,
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“Don’t you think it’s somewhat relevant as the founder of Puma PAC to disclose that you donated $500 to McCain’s primary campaign in 2000? I’m curious as to what was wrong with the Democratic party, Gore or Bradley that year? Any reason why a lifelong Democrat like yourself decided to jump ship eight years ago as well?”
RE: #137 Pelosi on Greta’s program
Greta just did a ‘what question would you like to ask Nancy Pelosi?’ on her Gretawire. Actually it trashed Pelosi…..so I can’t imagine what ??’s will be asked tonight.
Pelosi will also be on the Situation Room today…..
and my reply to the brave man, which I’ll try to post over at HuffPo.
“hey thanks for emailing me, and for publishing my personal info on the internet at the same time that you are too cowardly to identify yourself.
Typical.
Thank you as well for reminding me that I DID EVERYTHING I COULD in 2000 to prevent GEORGE BUSH from becoming the Republican nominee, including
donating money to McCain’s campaign and voting for him in the Republican primary here in Massachusetts because I was confident that my hero, AL
GORE, would win the primary for the Democrats.
I then went on to vote for Al in November of course. And WE ALL know how THAT turned out.
I am ashamed that you did not also DO EVERYTHING YOU COULD to prevent a disastrously unprepared and empty suit from getting the nomination in 2000. Oh wait, why should I be surprised? That’s exactly what you ARE trying to do now in 2008.
Coward.
#109 A-Will I hope everyone will read this article this is what puma’s are trying to get across and this is the email address I was given when I called the 800# : browns@caglecartoons.com. The person I reached said if I sent my comments to this address the authors would get it. So please PUMA’s email because we get so few articles like this
#147 Democratnomore, I have also dropped out of the Democratic Coup, and I agree with you. I have been a Democrat for 35 years. While I like the freedom floating among the PUMAs, that we should vote our conscience, and this in the spirit of DEMOCRACY I would ultimately support. I would on the other hand say; “If you are going to make a statement. Make it in a way that gets NOTICED; namely vote for Sen. McCain.” On this election year, I am forced to consider other candidates.
If McCain was not one that would be willing to work with the LEFT I would have a hard time considering him. Over the years, I have come to like him, because he does work in the middle. And mind you, I have been a loyal Democrat all this years. And I am not a Republican troll.
McCain is also a war hero, who suffered at the hands of the enemy. I have not had a quarter of the suffering that he endured. For him and the many war heroes, I am willing to vote for Sen. McCain, not the Republicans, because I still remember Ken Stare, and I am definitely not proud of our current puppet President. Vote for McCain is what my conscience is all about!
Good reply
Sheila…
please reidentify how we are to send the flowers again…florist, and how we identify it is part of the PUMA roses being sent to Hillary….
#155 wontbackdown,
i think she was talking about the flower donor being 100% legit which they are.
Re: post #166
Murphy,
Yes, I kind of expected BO’s people would act that way. It’s pathetic.
I can’t wait until I get a call from one of them or they come by to talk to me about their candidate. I’m looking forward to that conversation. They are truly cowards.
Sorry if this upsets you though. You were one of the firsts to step out of the shadows. Because of your act others will find it easier to speak their mind.
Once again, thank you so much!!!! -Lara08
i need help on gmail. i figured out how to make a group list but i don’t know how to actually send something to the group. help.
spelling error- I meant “first”
sartom, i’m almost ready to get that info. got alot happening all at once on my end so be patient with me pleasse?
Here is a less passive and more concise version of the Mission Statement submitted as recommendation.
“There will be no unity in the Democratic Party until the voices of the 18 million Hillary Clinton supporters is heard. The P.U.M.A.s will be defiant until the leadership of the Democratic Party listens to our voices. Together we will treat insult with uprightness, meet disdain with disdain, and NOT be bullied, brainwashed, or bossed into falling in line. The P.U.M.A.s are motivated to action by our shared belief that the current leadership of the Democratic National Committee has abrogated its responsibility to represent the interests of ALL Democrats in ALL 50 States. The DNC is misleading the Democratic Party by attempting to nominate an illegitimate candidate for president in 2008. The P.U.M.A.s will not support B.H.O.”
Check out comments Unity News.
Maybe we can have flowers delivered there………..that should make some news. Don’t forget the flip-flops for Obama…………… ; )
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/06/23/1602670-former-rivals-to-meet-in-unity-nh
Hello, PUMAs,
I would just like to give my two cents on us all choosing one strategy for voting in the fall election:
There are many opinions represented here. We have had guests drop in and read the posts and immediately get the impression that we are a “Hillary voters for McCain” group. I for one have no intention of voting for McCain. I am an independent left-leaning voter, as I have said here from the beginning. McCain is a part of the problem, not a part of the solution, IMO — BUT that is just my opinion.
I respect others who want to vote Republican as their protest against Obama. Or those who will stay home. Or those who will write in someone’s name. If you are a progressive or left-leaning Hillary supporter, don’t think you have to vote Republican. There are other options. You can support a third party candidate whose positions you are comfortable with, thereby taking votes away from the Democrats. I have voted “independent” for a very long time. Eventually they will hear us! Especially if we take votes away from Obama!
So, this is just my two cents in support of a continued *individual* strategy and approach to *voting* only!Coordinated *PUMA actions* are a different thing altogether, however, and if we can all agree on coordinated activities, then that will be very powerful, whether we individually vote for McCain, Greens, Working Families Party, or whoever.
NYCgirl
Just had a chance to see the interview. Great job Murphy. How do you do all of this with three kids to look after? You are really something.
I hope I didn’t offend anyone with my comments. I think you guy’s are great and I know everyone here is working hard to get the word out. I guess it’s just frustrating to see people do so much for BO and hang on his every word. If only people could see him for what he really is . He is such a user. Well, I donated to Hillary’s site last night, now I’m going to donate to Puma’s. See you guy’s later.
i’m going to put the lists of states not covered on flowers. 10 of these will be adopted so anyone else who can help that would be great. i need toget the info to her office and we need to get these ordered since she won’t be back in the office Thursday.
Arkansas
Delaware
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Louisiana
Mississippi
Montana
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oklahoma
Rhode Island
South Dakota
Utah
Vermont
Wyoming
I think we’ll have to send what we’ve got soon even if it’s not all 50. is that ok?
don’t forget to e-mail me your names if you’re sending.
#173 sheila7… Thanks! It concerned me when I saw “anonymous” on here.
I am certain “anonymous” is a BIG TIME Paid blogger!
I knew it was trouble when I saw “it” on here. I thought Murphy knew.
NYC Girl 180, well said.
I think we should send asap
#175 Sheila7 - You’re a step ahead of me. I couldn’t even figure out how to set up a gmail account, lol.
#184 Murphy
Thanks, Murphy.
#168 murphy………
(#183 I am certain “anonymous” is a BIG TIME Paid blogger!
I knew it was trouble when I saw “it” on here. I thought Murphy knew.)
G……..damn those BO supporters, Murphy!
This is where I have such a hard time with this whole thing!
I want to come out swinging and I know you want us to be above that!
We have got to start watching for how they operate, including infiltrating our “action projects”.
They will try and sabatoge in everyway they can!
Murphy… check “anonymous”… see if you can find out “its” email address.
#166 Murphy this is a good quote for the” anal opening ” that sent that post: ” one must’nt criticize other people on grounds where he can’t stand perpendicular himself”
Good morning (PDT)! It’s sunny at last here in the PNW. Thanks, Murphy, for another day of action. I’m sending out the bandaid letter to Pelosi and Dean. I’m also sending out two more letters to the WA State Democratic Party and the local Central Committee. Others may consider doing this as well in each state. Grassroots endeavors start at home (as Murphy knows).
Re Flip-Flops : Shorttermer - Will we have an updated list occasionally on the action center of more flip-flops such as O’s Fisa comments? Sure to be more. Wouldn’t mind sending more flip-flops everytime he makes a big one.
#182 Sheila I am lost on the flowers what are we doing?
Well done Murphy. Great job! Cowards they are.
Murphy, maybe you can help me , I am trying to figure out how many PUMA’S we have in Fort Worth area. Maybe we can all get together and appear in different public places with our PUMA gear on, this will attract more.
Murphy,
I’m the coordinator for our talking points project (subject: “Problems with State Caucuses). A couple of people have written me with their experiences and article links. Thanks everyone! Yet, I wonder if this would work better if we chose a topic points subject each day and asked people to contribute within the blog to that daily chosen topic. That way we could get that done and can move on.
If you and the group don’t like that idea then I’ll go back to asking that people send me their information directly to my e-mail: lara08pumadem@gmail.com.
Thanks, Lara
Did anyone get on HuffPo yesterday? My account was never activated. I used my Puma e-mail…btw.
#166 murphy… I know a lot of “hard-core democratically principled individuals” who are resgistered as republicans and are very much involved in the GOP.
Why? Because they believe their presence in the GOP has an impact on bringing some weight to voicing their opposition to some of their positions/issues - from within the GOP!
Murphy
Love the response..and how rude can people be. I was excited to watch you last night just to have a face to put with the name. I would never have the, forgive my choice of word, audacity to dig into your personal information. Also, as the media and bloggers seem to love to say that we are angry women over the age of 30, I think they need some correcting. Feel free to tell them to see this 27 year old for reasons as to why I won’t fall in line.
Town officials say the event will be held at Unity Elementary School. The time has not yet been set. Details are still being worked out, but the rally will be open to the public. Obama campaign staffers are already setting things up at the school.
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8545663
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Clinton_Obama_will_campaign_in_Unity_NH.html
Thanks Queen and all. My personal info is out there, and I know that’s permanent. But I still think it is in poor taste to use it as a weapon. oh, and the inherent hypocrisy of doing so anonymously.
“Obama Closely Linked with Ethanol”
New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/23/us/politics/23ethanol.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp
Hope the link works. -Lara
The issue of who gets my vote will be based on whether it will be a close election or not!
I do not find a vote for McCain total palatable - but the thought of OB winning the election is worse.
I will be sending a contribution for the PUMA and the Hillary contribution on Friday!!!
Thanks to all of you — together we will win.
#180 NYCgal I agree with you. Isn’t the whole point of the PUMAs the fact that our candidate was “Selected”? By saying we all need to take a stand and back McCain we are doing exactly what the DNC is doing. I personally will vote McCain. One of my family members will vote Independent because she cannot back BO or McCain. That is the purpose of having the freedom to vote. Yes, it would be nice to make a united standfor a candidate, but we ARE making a united stand by voicing our individual freedom to vote. We just need to remember that for every one of us who doesn’t vote BO, he needs 2 votes to make it up.
#168 murphy
Very good response Murphy, their detective skills need a little honing, as usual Puma’s Rule, Obamabots Drool!
Now Bill Clinton is supporting him….
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080624/ap_on_el_pr/obama_president_clinton
I so hope something changes for Hillary soon.
Hillary 08
McCain 08
Murphy
Welcome to the world of politics. My info is out there, too. Public Disclosure Commission has everything once a person is elected. I’ve had it all, death threats, slander, you name it. It’s not very comfortable at first but hang in there. Any thing we can do to help, please let us know.
#180, NYCgirl, I agree with your comments. I’m also left-leaning, and will not be voting for McCain. At the same time, I urge people to consider using their vote strategically. As a New Yorker, Obama will win my state regardless of whether I vote for McCain, write Hillary in (my intention), or vote for a third party candidate. PUMA’s may want to think about which “protest” tactic will have the most impact in their particular state.
Re: #190, flip-flops - I love the symbolism; don’t love wasting usable footwear. Please consider the possibility of a massive flip-flop donation to people in need through SOLES4SOULS - @$5/pair, can be done on-line and “in honor of”.
I will vote Mccain, i can not give obama even the slightest chance to win and voting for a third party could help him.Meanwhile I am hopefull Hillary will be the nom.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/6/24/13205/8134
Pelosi: Sexism, NO BIG DEAL
Sorry, haven’t had a chance to read all comments, but have you all visited NoQuarter and TalkLeft today?
TalkLeft: “Pelosi: Sexism No Big Deal” , “What Obama Said About Telco Immunity”
NoQuarter: “Words”
hmm…. if anyone thought they were going to switch and go back to the democratic party. Well, you have no backbone. Pelosi needs to lead the healing.
Does anyone have the snail mail address for Dean?
Tarma #205
Love the idea on Soles4Soles. Can you give us more information? Contact Marilyn Puma above.
117 sheila7 on 06.24.08 at 12:44 pm
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I say definiety to the Senate, right in front of those bums.
Trisha #209
Howard Dean
Democratic National Committee
430 Capitol Street SE
Washington D.C. 20003
#212 mayor0102
Thank you
soles4souls.com
helped victims of the SE Asian Tsunami and Katrina, to name a few
you can visit their website, click on “donate” - pay your $5 and they’ll send the flip-flops to someone in need.
As a mass effort, we could choose a block of days to donate - they also send letters of acknowlegement - those could go right to Obama/DNC
Tarma
What a great idea. Please send to Murphy or Maryland Puma above.
We have got your back Murphy, we all understand and are in full support, whatever we can do to keep Obama out of Office!!!
I think I would vote for the devil over Obama and that is pretty bad. OH, they are one and the same :)!!
#180 NYCgirl
Exactly my point if we could all agree on coordinated activities, then we would be extremely powerful. The DNC would take a great deal of notice if the green party was to jump in the numbers game, but I for one will not surrender to all the so called scare tatics out there.
Murphy. With Hillary campainging for noname soon to “woo” her supporters, whilst behind the scenes her supporters are (still) getting death threats and hate mail from his support