Again Folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!
okay here are the details:
Unity NH, Unity Elementary School, 6/27/08, 12:00
Unity is right off of I91 which makes it a reasonable trip from Springfield MA, Boston Ma, Hartford CT, Albany NY, and of course parts of NH and VT. You can map quest it and simply put in Unity Elementary School in place of “business” Unity is a town of only 1,700 so I doubt that there will be a crowd of 10,000. A couple hundred Puma’s would make the news and the place will be crawling with national media because this the first appearance of Hillary and Obama together. If only handful of us show up it will be dismissed, no doubt, as those disgruntled people, but if a few hundred show up……….
So who’s up for this? Bring a pair of flip flops.
Okay, the Greta interview with Pelosi just aired in Ohio.
Is Pelosi insane? Seriously, I laughed out loud at her pathetic responses.
When Greta asked her what experience BO had that Americans could base a decision on, she basically said he doesn’t have any! Her response was something like “oh, well, the American people have decided they want someone new”.
HUH???
Why are Obamabots so foolish to believe that one person could change Washington? It is the way it is. No one is going to change it EVER. You have to learn to play the game and play it well. And one way to prove that you can play the game is to stay in it. Which brings to mind–> Hillary.
Nancy Pelosi is so smug and self centered she makes me sick! Greta is trying her best to let Pelosi know that we will NOT vote for Obama, but Pelosi is Obama all the way. She shows no concern for the 18 million voters who want Hillary. She said, “there was a vote and Hillary lost, Obama will bring change.” She needs to be voted OUT!
Taffy, I belong to HillaryClintonForum.net and over there we’re planning on donating big to Hillary on July 4th… To help celebrate her financial independence. We don’t want BO’s help at all.
Yes,I’m in Ohio too and couldn’t find the mute button fast enough. It seems there are no televison channels I can watch anymore without my blood pressure skyrocketing! What is happening? Is this truly the bizzaro world?
Hi everyone i was just furious with Pelosi. Who does she think she is?? I sure could call her a few names. Yes we need to let her know how wrong she is. Making Obumbus look pure GRRRRRRRRRRR
Does anyone know if Sheila 7′s flower idea went through today, I posted it at Camille’s Bitterpoliticz site and then found out. .. .Hillary is in Senate today!
Nancy Pelosi came across as a kindergarten legislator.
She is a poor example of a female role model. Let us flood her email with regrets for wanting an inexperienced candidate to take over Washington…..
She convinced me that she was/is afraid of the role HILLARY would play as President.
Pelosi said that all women faced some racism but she was to busy at her job to notice anything happening to Hillary and then completely and conveniently changed the subject. She was trying to say that voting for McCain would be a bad thing for women and we would eventually have to pick Obama. I really dislike that woman. When asked about Obama and his judgement with Wright she said oh well at least he went to church. What a bunch of hogwash and that’s being polite. I am so miffed.
Pelosi needs some more pressure. I won’t call her what they like to call Hillary because it is just not right but I certainly dislike her. Sorry for the rant. I had to get it out.
#25 sisterdo – Sheila is still coordinating with Hillary’s senate office to ensure they will accept the deliveries. Hopefully we can wrap up tomorrow in the am – stay tuned…
“THE DENVER GROUP IS NOW OPEN AND ACCEPTING CONTRIBUTIONS
The Denver Group is pleased to announce that we are now prepared to accept contributions. We have installed a donate button on our site to make it as easy as possible for contributions through PayPal, credit card or check.
We will use all the means at our disposal, primarily mass media through newspapers and television and any other form or media we deem appropriate to accomplishing our goals which is to insure that Howard Dean and the DNC have a fair, democratic,and open convention which adheres to democratic principles which means clearly and without compromise that Senator Clinton’s name must be on the ballot and that there is a roll call vote.
The only democratic process possible or acceptable is that Senator Clinton’s delegates have the opportunity to cast their votes on behalf of the 19 million voters they represent and super delegates must be given the choice and the opportunity at the convention, to cast their votes for the candidate they believe is both the strongest and most qualified to win in November and to execute the office of President once elected.”
Do you believe that pelosi is she on drugs or what I believe she is up for re-election this time around. I think it is strange that her big money people are meeting with him and her on friday why would her money people be doing that.
Pelosi let us all know very early on that she wanted Hillary out of the race. It’s one thing to say you’re for a candidate but it’s another thing when everything you say directly supports one candidate over the other, yet you say you’re “neutral”.
vonay murphy put up an action alert on the other thread (lol) but nothing formal was organized. Just if you’re in the area PUMA signs to show support doubt if they’ll be hanging around outside at all. my bet is straight into building.
And the main page for the Denver Group, is Dr. Heidi Li Feldman’s page at Heidi Li’s Potpourri at WordPress.
Many know she’s been big in getting the word out about Retiring the Debt, and has been working on a Denver project……..so this is the unveiling.
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And if there’s a Flower movement still, I cross-posted it at Bitterpoliticz (all here are welcome at any time, just a bunch of chit chat like here– it’s Camille424′s site at word press)
I posted Sheila 7′s flower movement there, I wonder what came of it.
Pelosi has certainly received negative e-mails from me… including 3 more a few minutes ago which contain band-aids. The hard copy version is already in the mail to her and Dean and the very stinky flip-flops from last summer which my daughter has outgrown are on their way too!
I vented in the last few posts down below. I believe the complete interview is on Gretawire. .. Correct me if I am wrong. She has the nerve to say she did not know about the treatment Hillary was getting? Oh I am so angry. How can she sleep at night? She is a ****.
I agree. I saw a few minutes of the Pelosi interview and could not stomach it. This woman is incompetent and completely uninformed. Her responses about Obama’s experience, or lack thereof, was completely unacceptable and the Rev. Wright comment was ludicrous. What a disgrace. Now we know who or what is influencing the DNC.
#747 4hillinca and #749 go Ohio Lady
Watching Pelosi has made me soooooooo angry. What flipping planet is she living on. I think maybe some Botox has slipped into what she has of a brain.
How dare she say she was to “busy” running her own campaign to know or should I say CARE what was happening to Our Girl. Maybe she was afraid of some great competiton if Our Girl was President. Take alittle light off the old speaker of the house. And another thing if she thinks “fresh” is needed in the Oval Office then why the hell is she running for re-election…sorry by no means is she “fresh”. I also noticed the comment about having a President that “she” can work with and is open to things! Yeah like pay offs
I am so upset that I can hardly type – I keep making typos !!!!!
WELL TO MS PELOSI – I WILL NOT GET OVER IT – NO NOT HOLD WHAT WOMEN SHOULD FEAR ABOUT MCCAIN AS PRESIDENT – I WILL NOT VOTE FOR YOUR “PICKED PUPPET IN AN EMPTY SUIT” TO BE YOUR SIDEKICK- I HOPE WHOEVER CAN GETS YOU OUT AS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE….CAUSE EMMMMM – I’D LIKE SOMETHING – EMMMMM – OH YEAH “FRESH”
We have to go after her for pretending she didn’t know about the sexism against Hillary. She has NO credibility after that interview. Murphy, if you are still here, please get that into your appearance tomorrow. I cannot believe Pelosi! The audacity of Crap!
I’m very discouraged that Hillary is going to have Obama’s people help pay down the debt. I bet the Obamabots are dancing in the streets in glee as they get to parade this under our noses now.
I understand why she did it, time is running out on the deadline to have the debt paid, but still.
Truthfully it feels like a sellout, that’s my feelings on it.
I despise the thought of the Obama morons having a one up on us.
Oh well, in politics everyone is your friend and everyone is your enemy. And selling your soul to the devil is not uncommon
Pelosi doesn’t care what she does, she has no conscience, she’s probably slowly letting air out of the tires on that bus just so it presses harder on those that were thrown under it.
#60 The Obamites don’t want to help Hillary pay down her debt just as much as we don’t want to donate to obama’s campaign. I think it will still be up to her supporters
Just One smart Hillary!!! Her contributors are maxed out…his are maxed out. but they can contribute to the other candidate. so you give a dollar to me, i give a dollar to you. But I end up with no debt and you spend all yours on campaigning
In honor of your interview tonight I made my first monetary donation to John McCain.
You can bet your bottom dollar that me and 18 million other voters of Hillary Clinton whom had the most popular vote will NEVER forget how we were kicked to the curb.
I want to know, how you sleep at night? You know what they say, if you lay with dogs you get fleas.
Well, us 18 million voters have “flea spray”!
We’ll see who’ll be licking their wounds in November!
This reminds me of the movie Cleopatra when Ceasarian conquers Egypt and wants to parade her in front of his people to humiliate her. Of course, she kills herself but my favorite part is when she writes him a letter and says that she has made so many promises to so many men that one more won’t matter. Lol!
You started out giving an excellent interview with Greta Van Susteren. I especially appreciate the kind words you had for Hillary Clinton.
However, you lost me when you began praising Barack Obama. I agree that his stated positions are closer to my own beliefs than John McCain’s are. However, Senator Obama is not a man of his word. Therefore, I can’t trust his stated positions.
I’m not a voter who will eventually come around. If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will vote for John McCain. It’s not because I prefer his policies. I don’t. It’s not because I’m upset about the sexism Hillary was subjected to. I’m not foolish enough to vote against my bests interests out of anger. It’s not because I wish to send a message to the DNC regarding the disenfranchisement we saw during the primaries. Again, that’s not a good enough reason to vote against my best interests.
It’s solely a question of character. Obama is a man of very bad character, too dangerous and too untrustworthy to be President of the United States.
I disagree with your position that Senator Obama’s relationship with Reverend Wright is not important. The way I see it, Obama spent 20 years embracing the hateful, poisonous attitudes that permeate Trinity Church. Those same hateful, poisonous attitudes dominate the blog posts from Obama supporters. When I see the hatred and violence that Obama inspires in his followers, I can only conclude that an Obama presidency would be dangerous for our nation and the world.
Beyond that, I’m turned off by Obama’s increasingly dismissive attitude. Refusing to do additional debates with Hillary when voters still wanted to hear debates was dismissive of Hillary and voters everywhere. Refusing to insist that Florida and Michigan delegates be seated in full was dismissive, not only to voters in those two states, but to voters everywhere. Refusing to accept McCain’s invitation for weekly town hall meetings is dismissive. Voters want to hear those debates, and we’re entitled to them. Even Obama’s refusal to accompany McCain to Iraq to see conditions firsthand is dismissive.
What this says to me is that a President Obama will be dismissive of everyone and everything that doesn’t serve his immediate interests. That’s unacceptable. We’ve had that from President Bush for the last eight years. I don’t want it anymore.
I don’t know why an intelligent, proactive woman such as yourself has fallen under Obama’s spell and can’t see him for the danger he is. However, you’re entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine.
Know that I have recently joined PUMA PAC and am actively working to defeat Obama. I pray that Obama self-destructs before the Democratic convention in August, while there’s still time to make Hillary our nominee. But if not Hillary, then McCain. It’s not a happy choice, but it’s the only appropriate one.
Don’t forget the Daily Growl for tomorrow is up on the PP Action Center.
And also don’t forget to visit the Action Center main and click on the “Pay Down Her [Sen. Clinton] Debt” link. There was a front page article in our City newspaper about her debts owed to local facilities and businesses from her campaign stops here in PA. She really needs our help. We’re nearing the $2000 mark!
Hello, I just came in to say goodnight. Don’t want to miss the wonderful Murphy at 6:20 A.M. EST, 5:20 A.M. C.S.T. (I’m C.S.T.)
I will probably have nightmares after the Pelosi interview. Like you above, I jumped off the couch when she answered, “I’m just glad he went to church.” That is by far the STUPIDEST thing I have ever heard in a long time.
The 9/11 terrorists went to church (mosque).
Satanists go to church.
The mild-mannered accountant clerk who just blew away his family went to church.
Jim Jones went to church.
Jeremiah Wright goes to church, and has a crowd of folks clapping and stomping and praising every word he says, and Obama was one of them “once upon a time.”
This woman has no clue–she sounded mad at the questions. She’s sick of it. She knows we’re here to stay. She thinks she can wag that finger (she wagged her finger, y’all) at us and tell us to behave ourselves.
I’m a free person who thinks for myself. I can handle a little pain–I’ve survived almost 8 years of G.Bush.
Gosh–she was so arrogant.
On that note—I’m outta here. See you tomorrow.
Murphy, sweet dreams.
I got the impression she was scolding all of us who don’t “understand what we are missing.” She is a fool.
I agree. She is pathetic. To think, the Congress she leads has the lowest approval rating in history and she’s still in charge. Why don’t her underlings revolt? They’d be doing themselves, and us, a favor. I hate to say this, but it’s true, she’s only holding on to power because she is the first woman Speaker.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply it was blogged or anything, I’m thinking it will be shortly, I’ll go over to bo’s harem of fools and idiots and see what they’re saying
i sent letters to Ms Pelosi and Mister Dean often over these past 5 months, all of them asking for some sanity!
this kool-aid, jesus,..where is jim jones when you need him?
the emperor really does not have on any clothes, just for the record… thanks Murphy and every other cool cat here!!!
Well. Pelosi got an email from me today. Guess I’m the ONLY one too email her and she just hasn’t received it yet. Yawnnnnnnnn.
The woman is like bacon grease. What she says stinks and you can’t hold it up to scrutiny without it melting all over and making just another mess.
I’m sorry she is a woman. You would think she would have more integrity, but she is from wealth where everything is ‘such a game!’. To hell with her and all of them. She didn’t answer one question clearly!!
You, highest ranking female in the house, and she’s not about to lose that title. Should send her a nail file and tell her to file them down before she hurts herself
TrishfromCanada:
I just found it online. It is terrible and I would LOVE to know how much her supporters raise for her between the end of the primaries and this horrible meeting on Thursday. I don’t think he should get all of the credit. We raised a lot of money so far.
We will stand strong and keep voting for Hillary whenever we get the chance. If not her, then McCain. I’m definitely not voting for the party this year.
#81 donnas
i sent letters to Ms Pelosi and Mister Dean often over these past 5 months, all of them asking for some sanity!
this kool-aid, jesus,..where is jim jones when you need him?
where is jim jones when you need him LOL!!!
a warning next time i was taking a drink… too funny
I find it particularly humorous that she claims to have not received emails in opposition. I sent her an email just ahead of the last primaries and told her she should not as she said step in and end this thing immediately after the last primary. I told her the summer was long and she was going to be mighty embarrassed come august if she forced other superdelegates to choose the wrong candidate. Funny, I didn’t get an error sent to my email, so I can’t seem to understand how she could have misplaced my email. Perhaps it was just an oversight, a vista glitch. Hmmm, what to do? I know, lets send lots and lots of letters pumas!
96 queen81 on 06.24.08 at 11:36 pm
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Oh yeah. Tomorrow is email Pelosi day! Do it through one of the email addresses above where it has to go through some poor soul. The word will get around. In fact, I’m eamiling mine now so it will be there in the am
She’s just full of it. I’ve sent her so many emails since the primary began that I can’t even count them. I begged her over and over to speak out about the sexism and misogyny, but i never got an answer. Guess she was too busy to be a leader.
I checked it out, its cute with a bang on saying with it. I’d like to know where the plug is on that bot, let the ass flounder in deep waters for a bit
I have to go to bed, but I just wanted to check in. I have sent out my growl for today and have tomorrow’s ready to go out in the morning.
I hope we are making a difference, but sometimes when dealing with arrogant idiots like Dean and Pelosi, a person has to wonder if they even read our letters or care.
#103 ANTIFISH AND ALL
IF SHE CAN NOT REMEMBER GETTING EMAILS OF CONCERN MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL RESEND THEM WITH THE NOTE….HEARD YOU DID NOT RECIEVE SO HERE THEY ARE AGAIN….OH YEAH AND BY THE WAY IN CASE YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS EITHER…NOT VOTING FOR YOUR “PICKED PUPPET”
Some interesting news is that the mayor of Baltimore is under investigation for corruption. The search warrants and subpeonas are flying and there is apparently a grand jury. So what? She an Obama super delegate. If there is an indictment, I hope it comes before the convention. Nothing like another indicted or convicted supporter. Heh-heh-heh!
I followed up my email to Nancy Pelosi with this email to Bill O’Reilly. I sent copies of both emails to the DNC.
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Dear Bill O’Reilly,
I don’t know how to reach Karl Rove directly, but I want to tell you how much I appreciate his statements on your show tonight regarding Obama’s refusal to debate John McCain. I’d like to see the media beat on that point until Obama is backed into a corner. Voters are entitled to hear the candidates debate the issues. Obama’s refusal to agree to the weekly town hall meetings is a direct and unmistakable snub to voters everywhere.
Below is a copy of something I sent to media outlets last week. Please feel free to use these talking points in future shows. I’ve sent this same message to Obama and the DNC, but my voice has little impact. Yours, however, is far more powerful.
By the way, I’m a member of the newly formed PUMA PAC, and I’m actively working to see Obama defeated. It’s not because I’m angry about the sexism or the disenfranchisement, although those are certainly factors in my decision. Rather, it’s because I believe Obama is a man of very bad character. I believe he’s dangerous for our nation and our world.
Obama’s 20-year association with the hateful, poisonous Reverend Wright scares me. The hatred and violence he inspires in his followers scares me. His tendency to be dismissive of everyone and everything that doesn’t serve his immediate interests scares me.
So although I prefer Obama’s stated positions over McCain’s, I plan to vote for McCain in November if Hillary is not our nominee. It’s not a happy choice, but it’s the only appropriate one. Obama is not a man of his word, so I can’t trust his stated positions to be what he really believes.
Thank you for your consideration.
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What Obama Says to Me
How many times during the primary season did Senator Obama say, “I welcome that debate with John McCain”? So why does he now do everything possible to avoid the weekly town hall meetings Senator McCain keeps asking for?
Here’s what Senator Obama’s actions say to me:
• Senator Obama is not a man of his word.
• Senator Obama does not respect voters who very much want to hear both candidates discuss the issues. Nor does he respect leaders in other countries who also want to hear both candidates discuss the issues.
• Senator Obama is not a man who can or will reach across the aisle as he has repeatedly promised to do. If he intended to reach across the aisle, he’d be doing it now every chance he could.
• Senator Obama is afraid that Senator McCain will expose the lack of substance behind his rhetoric.
• Senator Obama isn’t confident enough about the issues to speak without a teleprompter or the scripted words of his speech writers.
• Senator Obama doesn’t believe in transparency in government.
• If Senator Obama were to become President, he would repeatedly shy away from difficult discussions and uncomfortable topics. So, too, would he avoid talking with other world leaders unless they fall in line behind everything Senator Obama says.
On policy issues, I’m more closely aligned with Democrats than I am with Republicans. But I cannot in good conscience vote for a man of such bad character. In November, I will vote against Senator Obama.
I did not see Pelosi tonight, but if she is saying she has received no e-mails about Obama, she must never read or get a summary of her e-mails. I’m sure I’ve send her several. Some nice, some not so nice. She’s a liar. Very refreshing new kind of politics.
How do you guys send these letters by e-mail without attaching them? I like to put things right in the body of the e-mail, but I can’t do it with these. I have been sending mine by snail mail.
#122 Olive
You are lucky…but you need to see it to believe it. She said she was “to busy” running her campaign to know anything about how OUR GIRL was being treated…and it gets worse from there.
I understand you have not received any emails from people who have been long term Democrats who are furious with the DNC and will not unite
as in “one big happy family”. Please allow me to be the first. Do you realize that the Wright statement “God Damn America” was the
rhetorical relieving of himself on the grave of my Dad, and anyone else that gave their lives for this Country, regardless of sex or skin
color? And you are just glad Obama went to church???
Then I did my thing, but ya’ll have heard it before so won’t boreyou. So, now we know, she has received AT LEAST one email, hehe. Let’s keep count today.
Love the snail mail idea. I had actually written to the campaign and suggested that she get her supporters to write to all SD’s and mail them to Hillary’s campaign so they could send them out on the same day. I was picturing Post Office trucks lining the capitol building and thousands of letters landing on doorsteps. I’m sure the post office deosn’t mind. Their revenue has been declining so this is a boost for them.
the only change bo has shown us is that his logo keeps changing, the man has no identity he can call his own and no ability to stay with his plan, irritates me to no end. i bet his smarmy wife his home licking her chops right now singing “gonna be in the white house kids, daddy done did good, and we can still hate america, momma didn’t lie, no mamma didn’t lie”
Just copy and paste them. Start at the top left hand corner of the text you want to copy, hold down the left mouse button and drag across and down until all the text you want is highlighted. Let go and click the right mouse button. Select copy. Then go write your email and wherever you want to insert the text, Place your cursor, right click again and select paste. The text will be placed in your email.
Too busy running her campaign? I guess that accounts for her lackluster performance as Speaker too. She’s third in line to succeed the President and does not know what’s going on around her? She must be removed. We don’t have the luxury of having a disconnected dodo running the House.
I’ll have to check out the transcript on Fox later. I’m also going to check on possible side effects associated with Botox injections.
sorry, i did know that, i was being odd, was thinking that lot can squeeze blood out of a turnip, they’ll figue how to get freshness from a defunked dryer sheet
Thanks, but it won’t let me copy and paste them. They open in Adobe and my computer won’t let me drag to highlight or save or anything. Maybe it is my computer? I will reboot and try again.
Well I am out of here…..the Pelosi thing has got me thinking and I need to go file my paws and compose my letter to her…I think I will send it by email and snail mail and get a delivery confirmation of my snail mail….if she still says she did not get it – I send her a copy of the delivery confirmation! hehehaha
Or better yet, for the position of Democratic Nominee. We can each state what makes us more qualified that BO to be president! That would make a great daily growl!
I caught that before I signed off. I think so too! I’m sure many of us can explain why we are much better suited to be the Democratic nominee than Barack. It would make for a really good daily growl. Oh well, we can talk about it tomorrow.
Oh, goodness. I just read all your posts about Peloser. Is that woman for real? She was so busy she didn’t notice or hear Hillary and the women base getting slapped with hateful sexist remarks? Was she asleep or too busy vying for a VP spot on O-flipper’s list too?
LOL, that’s what she does day to day as speaker of the house.
Defending Obama on Rev. Wright, Pelosi says she has disagreements with her pastors
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said she has disagreed with her pastors, dismissing claims that Americans will hold the controversial sermons of Rev. Jeremiah Wright against Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).
During an interview with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News that aired Tuesday night, Pelosi strongly defended Obama when pressed on the effect Wright will have on the presidential election.
“Look, I am just glad [Obama] went to church,” Pelosi said.
hi everyone! i just joined – have been looking for you online, but couldn’t find you. i saw the piece about puma on tv and was so excited! got my bandaids ready, printed out the form for pelosi and comward dean and i’m ready to go!
Gee, I don’t know how he managed that. When I had a disagreement with the scripture interpretations of a local rabbi, I stopped going to synagogue until I could go to a different one with a more enlightened rabbi. I couldn’t sit in a congregation and pretend I supported something I didn’t support. I see no reason Mr. Nobama couldn’t do something similar.
I am actually from the west coast. indy was referring to the fact that I have been a registered Independent for many years now. But until Nov 2008 I have always voted Democrat. Unless Hillary is our girl, I will be voting Republican for the first time in my life
PA I go to a Catholic church and so far in the last 10 years we have switched 3 times because we disagree with new priest who has come in. I won’t sit through someone I disagree strongly with either.
I’ve given up on the Democratic Party. There is no excuse for Pelosi’s actions. There is no excuse for Obama’s pastor. Pelosi and Co. aren’t going to “come around.” There is no winning back the Democratic Party in its present configuration. The corruption is so pervasive, it’s going to take longer than this election or the Convention to clean it up.
A friend brought me a Mallard Fillmore (artist Bruce Tinsley) cartoon strip today. I’m not familiar with the cartoon strip, but the message is clear enough …
A couple are assessing cereal choices in the grocery store. One box says, “Fruit ‘N Fiber.” The next says, “Nuts ‘N Honey.” A third says, “Hope ‘N Change.”
The couple are looking at the last box, and the man says to his wife, “Who’s got time to read the ingredients? Let’s just buy it.”
Even if by some divine act of grace, Hillary is the nominee, she still has to work within that corrupt framework and that scares me. I’m done expecting anything from the Dems. None of them stopped Obama and the view that might have objected weren’t strong enough to prevail. Does not inspire my confidence one bit. The stakes are too high to let party loyalty in any form figure in to the equation. At this point in our history, it really is a matter of Country Over Party. All the other issues pale in comparison.
Another piece of garbage coming out of Peloser’s mouth.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says —”I’m a victim of sexism myself all the time.”
June 24, 2008
WASHINGTON—”I’m a victim of sexism myself all the time,” said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) …But Pelosi does not spend a lot of time worrying about sexist remarks people make.
What an enabler! It’s okay to be called nasty vile names and have others question our ability to function because of hot flashes ladies, just shake it off like Nancy.
Taffy: Heh, just as I thought. Pelosi makes no sense.
Trish: speedos? *cringe*
pumaindy: I know what you mean. I actually sympathized with some of my friends who normally vote republican. They’re a little worried that we aren’t frightened enough of McCain.
Good evening all, I just got throught fast reading the posts for the day. My goodness you all were busy. Murphy, I am so proud of you. I will set by alarm. I guess all of us sending the video of you to Fox last night might have worked. I got 6 read replays from Fox and 1 from CNN
taffy,
i’m sorry to interrupt your fun again. lol. i never heard from pplvette. i did not have you down for indiana but i also don’t seem to have anyone down. if you want to do it go ahead and if not don’t worry about it. we also don’t have wyoming so it wouldn’t be the only one. thanks.
I feel the same way about McCain. I’m supporting him with a totally clear conscience, not one shred of difficulty, not as a “protest vote,” but because I think he is head and shoulders better for this country than any of the alternatives. Given the present state of the Democratic Party even if Hillary gets the nomination, I still feel very nervous about our future because the Democratic Party is backing someone who really seems a threat to America. To me the only way she can be effective in holding back the onslaught of some devious scenario in the works is to band with moderates of BOTH parties. Again, Country Before Party.
sheila7,
I never received any email from anyone needing any money for the AZ flowers but I can give a little if we need some toward another state. email me and let me know. Any by the way a huge round of applause to you for heading this up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well this is straight from a black 35 gop man….who’s father is also a minister…the minute rev wright came out…i turned 100% against obama….i refuse to support poverty pimps no matter how great they are at speeches. it p%$##@ me off knowing this guy just set back blacks by decades…could you imagine having this discussion if colin powell was running?
I think it is smart of Hillary to demand that the BO supporters are ask to pay her debt. I doubt that she is going to do much for BO although she needs to appear to be helping. Notice she was 45 minutes late for her end of campaign speech leaving the TV channels on the air talking about her for an extra 45 mins. Remember Bill Clinton said he would help Kerry but of course his open heart surgery kept that from happening. Bill thrives on attention and I have seen many recovering heart patients most of whom can do pretty much what ever they really want to after 3 weeks at least for short periods. So if Bill didn’t give speeches for Kerry it is because he didn’t want to. I bet Hillary will be really busy, for the party of course, back in the Senate and not be very available to campaign for BO. Besides having her out there with BO will piss off the BObamites and will make no difference to us. I think the BO people really need to have Hillary as a nemesis, they have been off their game since she went out of view. I actually think it will be funny to watch them seethe when she reappears taking the spot light off BO and they can’t savage her for sexist sport.
I will be donating to puma…right after the car payment…but I dont think I should start sending letters…it might no do this site a good deal to have a loud mouth gop sending out shots:(
I’m hoping your right. I have a feeling Bill can actually do more harm to Obama than help if he campaigns for him, maybe alienate Obama’s core supporters? And Hillary is so despised by the Obama-ites I don’t know how they’ll handle seeing their idol campaigning with her. Might cause a mental melt-down, fry their bot brains. Too much cognitive dissonance for them to handle.
If you have not listened to the Qadhafi YouTube yet, it is worth a look. #645 downstairs by ladyhawkke.
Why is this guy (BO) still even in the race? His resume should be shredded and he should be kicked out the door with parting words “Thanks, but no thanks. You aren’t qualified and we don’t hire thieves, liars, or people of low moral character.”
You shouldn’t hesitate to write letters because you are a republican. No one even has to know. Simply present your case for why you believe McCain is a better choice or why Obama would be bad for our country. It has nothing to do with what party you belong to. You’re a voter, just like the rest of us.
ario that is the whole point. we need people to see we are serious about mccain. everybody is banding together. we’ve had several republicans who have said they would have voted for Hillary. That’s actually a much stronger statement than a dem saying it. they think we would have just voted along party lines. bo has put out that hillary only won a lot of places because repubs were trying to get her as nominee since she would be an easy target. They don’t think repubs would have actually supported her. So YES…we need your voice!!!!!!
tusconpuma,
she tried to e-mail you and so did i and it came back undeliverable. can you e-mail me again and i’ll see if we have the wrong email address. sheila7puma@gmail.com. thanks.
Write away if you want to. You don’t need to identify yourself as anything other than a PUMA. No one here cares I’m sure and puffing up our numbers can’t hurt.
It isn’t only a matter of party. Doesn’t matter if you’re a Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever, You are an American first and this guy is not fit to hold that office. Could he even get security clearance to be a messenger in any high security government agency, with his history and list of questionable friends and associates?
Bo’s gonna need a bigger oval table by the time he brings dirty deed friends and kenyan family and hawaiin family over for thanksgiving dinner and Michelle invites her ma and pa and bro
LOL. While we’re at it, how ’bout an MRI just to make sure there’s actually flesh and blood in his brain, not mechanical parts and an invisible teleprompter screen, programmed with words “hope” and “change” and adjusted to run on an infinite loop.
I sent Marsha an email asking for the snail mail address so I could send PUMA a check. Haven’t heard back.
I like the motto “Country Before Party.”
I ordered twenty wristbands for my family and friends from: http://goodsforgiving.com/w-ds.html
The cost including shipping was $42.99. I ordered in light blue medium size with the words “ONE OF 18 MILLION”.
I can’t wait until they arrive. They have been shipped.
Ario – you are taking it much better than everyone else who watched. I don’t watch any TV news. I get all my info from this blog, and even that’s too much at times.
I agree that the DP is part of the problem. They are delusional, if they believe Hillary’s supporters will endorse *61. If you follow the money with *61, he has many skeletons in his closet. We have charitable funds being directed to ACORN when *61 sat on these boards.
ACORN is a radical group that he is connected with. More importantly, they have provided campaign volunteers for him. We have his mentor Emil Jones Jr. placing *61′s name as a co-sponsor on the Illinois bills. In return, *61 earmarks tens of million of dollars in pet projects for this man’s district.
We have bundlers from top financial firms donating to his campaign. The corruption taking place is huge. This is why *61′s idea to forgo public financing in the GE is a red flag.
Post yesterday about Obama asking his financial backers to donate to retire Clinton’s vendor debt.
Here was one response:
I don’t have much of a problem with this.
But I’m going to have a HUGE problem with the PUMAs and Harriet Christians of the world now. How exactly they’ll manage to spin the fact Obama is still somehow “being mean” to Hillary despite agreeing to pay $10 million back to her that she misspent, is going to be trying.
Maybe they won’t. Maybe for once they’ll just say thank you, Senator Obama has done the chivalrous and generous (if not necessarily right) thing. My guess is: they still eviscerate him for no reason whatsoever. Other than running against Hillary. And all of this will be while he helps her find $10 million he could desperately use himself. Sigh.
Ario: No, if Colin Powell was running, we would definitely not be having this discussion. He would be a worthy candidate for the “first African American president”.
Honestly, I don’t mind having republicans here…they’ve been MUCH nicer than the kool-aid drinkers, even after the so-called “unity”. I certainly haven’t heard of *61 supporters having been threatened the way Clinton and McCain supporters have been.
That’s true. I have a Republican friend and every election for the past decade or so we’ve debated D vs R. Never in a million years would she have voted D, or I voted R. This year our discussion lasted all of 10 minutes. We both despised O. She said she could easily vote for Hil. I said I would vote for McCain if Hil isn’t in. End of discussion. This has NEVER happened before! We were both stunned. Made for pretty boring pre-election debates between us.
I don’t know who this quote is by but it is good for these times: ” Sometimes I wonder if our country is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it”
Here is the good news. I will get the opportunity to vote against Pelosi. Cindy Sheehan all the way!!!! I will take a moment and think of all of you when I put my” x “next to Cindy’s name in the honor of all Pumas. Good riddance Nancy.
I agree PA. If colin powell was on ticket dems would be out of it. i have a problem with condi rice simply because she is so associated with bush. not sure she could switch strategies.
#265 – i meant murphy not marsha (I have a friend named marsha murphy) Senior moment. The email seemed to have gone through to murphy–i’ll just wait until I hear back.
Hey you guys, I thought we weren’t supposed to be mean. You are totally disrespecting all of those innocent basketballs out there. Before you know it they’ll be rioting, making nasty phone calls, threatening our lives, etc. I don’t think I can outrun a basketball. Yuk Yuk Yuk.
shorttermer they’re not looking at the fact that it’s a trade. both candidates donors are maxed. Hillary stashed in her GE fund and bo spent on primaries. So Hillary out of money now and bo in future. so they trade dollar for dollar. bo gets 10 mil in his fund, hillary gets 10 mil in hers. hillary comes out better but don’t tell. all debts paid and still with ge fund in case. bo still spending and no where to go after this for his GE fund unless former hillary supporters “fall in line”
Thank you for your comments. I wanted to try and not post anything until tomorrow morning, but I can’t hold this anymore. Just wanted to let you know that Denver Group Pac is now up and running. I emailed Mr. Bower (he’ll be on Fox News tomorrow) to see if he’ll want to mention it.
MillionWomenMarch has just added a Michigan state meeting. YES!!! I am so excited. PLEASE TELL AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN ABOUT SIGNING UP TO HOLD STATE MEETING. WE NEED MULTIPLE MEETINGS IN ALL OF THE STATES!!! WE GET TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT WHAT TO DO IN DENVER AT THOSE MEETINGS. PLEASE LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT IT!!! The link to sign up is:
I read a article today that said: Little was mentioned outside the blogs when Obama said that he has traveled all 57 states and when arguing that our military’s Arabic translators are needed in Afghanistan, he did not know that Afghans do not speak Arabic.George Bush would have been crucified for such an error.
Don’t underestimate BO’s dirty politics. Something tells me $$ will be available to him, not necessarily in legitimate ways. Once again, Qadhafi YouTube hints that he has had contributions from foreign entities. Though his flip flops are apparently worrying them also.
Forgive me for even admitting that I have something in common with Obama, but I love basketball. I used to be a referee until I trashed my feet by playing and officiating so much.
Too bad politics isn’t like playing basketball. If it were, Obama would have been ejected from the game for unsportsmanlike conduct.
If politics were like basketball, Obama would rack up technical fouls so fast that the scorekeepers wouldn’t be able to keep up.
If politics were like basketball, Hillary would win on free throws alone, because Obama would keep sending her to the free throw line.
Yes – the 57 states worries me. It is not a gaffe. Rather, it is a Freudian slip. No one can convince me otherwise. BO is out to add the 58th state (USA) – after he destroys it first of course.
I just finished reading a (very long) article … you’ve got to check it out … it’s amazing HRC got as far as she did in this despicable race … unbelievable info … pumapac is credited … please read to the end!
By the way, it’s true: “The Obama campaign immediately assumed control over the party apparatus and treasury, and much to the chagrin of Clinton activists and donors, her internet contact lists have now become the property of her rival.”
puma it’s a known fact that he got money from overseas. the london papers were full of the fact that some guy from there sent a bunch before either he was kicked out of country or went to jail. That was last winter so i’d have to go back and dig it up. English have an unspoken rule to not get involved in other countries elections so it was a big deal. crooked guy sending money from uk
But there was something else I learned as a referee. When people pay to see a basketball game, part of the price of admission is the right to “boo the refs.”
We “bought our tickets” when we registered to vote. So let’s all “boo the refs.”
plus puma i’ve never gotten an answer to why he keeps saying bo for america instead of for president of us. that slipped in sometime around may. he RARELY says united states anymore. it’s always america very telling and frightening
#299 Answer: You and me and every other Hillary supporter. Our choices might be leave the country (on the run) or go to jail. And if we aren’t careful, lose our lives.
You all totally amaze me. I am sitting here trying to work and can not keep my eyes off this screen. i wish i had the time to really do the work you all do, but i mailed flip flops today and sent emails and read what you all wrote and know that some how we will all make this work. There is one thing i am sure of, that most of us out there are women, because you all are doing many things at once taking care of your family, your homes, jobs and working this site. That is why we all know that Hillary would be the best candidate. She too knows how to multi task and get things done the right way, the honest way.
I had a big “ah ha” tonight. It’s about the money. Our efforts are admirable, but its about the money.
If Hillary’s supporters can not manage to pay off about 12 million when Obama has hundreds of millions at his disposal…then all our talk doesn’t mean much.
She is doing what she has to do to get this paid by August.
The debt has to be paid before there is any hope of turning this around.
Exactly right. I have been “screaming” about this for a day or two now.
It IS all about the $$. I have been blogging that I think that the Clinton’s strategy might be very different if the debt was addressed and taken care of.
1 million people donating $20.08 each takes care of the debt. I have been contributing as I can and recently incurred $100 debt of my own to contribute towards hers. I will probably increase my debt a little more on 07/04/2008.
How do we get 1 million people to make that gesture? I know that $20 is alot for people. I would be willing to cover up to 4 people in addition to myself.
I really want to see her debt gone so that she is free to act. She keeps asking….
and we better take a gun with us! cause he have all the rest! i’m gonna go find trish can say that cause i think she gone. we all invite ourselves to her place til we dead! lol (I think )
Why don’t they send out John Kerry and his merry band of hypos (as in hypocrites) to make not-so-veiled allusions to Obama going senile and losing his marbles. They did it to McCain. Again, what’s good for the goose is not good for the gander? I’m so sick of the hypocrisy.
There is an initiative by another Hillary site that wants everyone to contribute on 07/04/2008. I’m in for that. Now we just need 999,999 others and we’re set.
got a new link earier tonight. there is a group forming that contains some of the same members who swift boated kerry. they are re-forming to swift boat bo
1. she changed subject when asked about the women who are pissed with obama and tried to make mccain look evil HELLO!
wasnt it just 36 months ago that her party was begging mccain to be Kerry’s VP? Hello?
2. is she stupid? does she think we are stupid? or what? obama isnt new to dc or politics and there is nothing fresh about his outlook!
3. it really pisses me off when they say ..”the people have spoken!” umm who are these people and if thats the case why did Hillary have a choke hold on him till the bitter end and he is neck in neck woth mccain?
sorry guys …my tolerance for buffonery is at an all time low…i need another beer!
oh my gosh you guys! i just watched the pelosi interview and now i know why everyone was so upset. my heart was actually racing i was getting so angry. she’s got a lot of nerve. i’m so mad i can’t even see straight.
Has Flineo been approached to create any TV commercials by the GOP? He (or she) is a brilliant artist with an impressive portfolio of anti-Obama videos.
Besides, the people DID speak. 18 million of them. And they are being dismissed outright. When I was still watching the TV, the mantra was “they (SDs) can’t overturn the will of the people”. I am LMAO now about that one. Boy did they underestimate our girl.
Today I sent a bandaid email to Pelosi & collected old flip flops from my husband (really big, old, nasty ones) for Howard Dean (who already received one of my old bras), made a small contribution to help HRC retire her debt (sorry, forgot to do it through this site), and continued to argue with Wikipedia that Puma Pac is Wikiworthy.
Then over dinner my husband & I discussed the merits of a lawsuit against a church on the grounds that its internal politics caused the suitor pain and suffering. His take: “You could sue Obama! He’s been causing you pain and suffering for months!” Hmmm, do the brilliant minds of Puma Pac see an action idea there?
pumaindy,
i go back and forth on watching things. i can’t stand to see it but i feel the need to watch for myself. i only watch certain people and greta is one of them. she broughtup alot of our issues so i was glad for that. of course she was dismissed. welcome to the club greta. pelosi actually asked her why we were mad? just because hillary lost? she didn’t lose!!!!
Generous to whom? I think you just insulted all the witches out there.
On the other hand, I’m having visions of how easily Dorothy dispatched a couple of witches in “The Wizard of Oz.” Maybe we should send Hillary a few water buckets tomorrow.
#326 firebelle, that is a good idea about the water buckets. that woman is unbelievable, it is obvious that she just couldn’t stand the thought of Hillary being more powerful than her. i’ve got news for you nancy, you could never come close to Hillary no matter what.
BO is trying to divide the nation. Seems to me that with the exception of the BObots and those he bought he is uniting the rest of us – against him. Hope he underestimates us also.
In all of this, the silver lining to me is that I feel proud to be part of such a diverse coalition. Dems, Repubs, Indys, etc., male, female, rich, poor, middle class, white collar, blue collar, young, old, middle aged, white, black, yellow, brown, green, purple, etc. When we decide to stand as one, we are going to kick his shiny little arse out of this country. I want to see him running with his tail between his legs.
Pelosi and the DNC think their rank-and-file loyal Dems are idiots. Do they really think we’re all that stupid we’d fall for their bs? If I wanted that kind of party I’d have voted for Bush in ’00. At least Repubs have more respect for their people. They don’t take them to be mindless idiots. They may have played dirty in past elections but they never tried to pull a fast one on their own. If you can’t trust the party to be honest with their own loyal supporters, imagine what they’ll do when the have the whole country by the short hairs. I can’t even begin to describe how infuriated I was when I got Dean’s DNC survey after Hillary’s June 7 speech when he lied in the survey about McCain’s positions and made it clear that’s what the brain-dead Dem leadership planned on using to beat McCain. Give me a break! At least present your opponent’s positions honestly. If you have to lie about his positions to beat him, something is very, very wrong.
pumaindy,
i am proud too. one good thing, i’m glad to be freed from the democratic party. i will never be a part of it again. country first. i will always vote for the person from here on out.
I totally agree/…. this time last year Hillary was wonderful and Bill was the first black president and Mccain was a wonderful maverick….now all have been thrown under the bus without a blink of the eye…and for who? an empty suit with no chance of winning…its crazy!
PELOSI NEEDS TO BE VOTED OUT!!!! I WILL NOT DO what many in the Democratic party keep saying they will do, voting McCain for President but everything else Democrat. NOT THIS GIRL HERE! I’m voting McCain for President BUT WILL CLOSELY EXAMINE EVERY DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT BEFORE I CAST MY VOTE, BEGINNING WITH MRS. PELOSI!!!! If there’s anything I have learned with this travesty of an election is to remain a free thinker and NOT to vote for someone on the ballot just because they claim to be Democrats! Let’s face it, the good old Democratic party is no more. I DO NOT KNOW this “new” party. One thing is for sure, whatever “the new coalision” is, I’m not part of it!
What scares me is that he is so sure he IS going to win.
What also scares me is that unless some extraordinary event occurs that deflects everyone’s attentions away from who is the next POTUS or something happens to unequivocally disqualify BO, then I think that there is 100% chance that we are in for a bumpy ride.
I am trying to figure out how we don’t end up with a big mess in November, regardless of the outcome.
No matter what the Dems promise, they never deliver. Pelosi took over leadership in the house as first woman speaker and in 2 years did absolutely ZILCH! Still waiting for all those wonderful things she was supposed to accomplish in the 1st 100 days. She was so busy having a pissing contest for power within the Dem. party, she squandered a phenomenal opportunity to reverse position on Iraq, which was the main reason Dems made such inroads in Congress. It never was about the country, the war, the people. It was about Nancy Pelosi and the DNC getting control of Congress. Why? To protect all those corrupt politicians from being exposed in their little sweetheart deals? Then using the power to instigate or hold back investigations into their little dirty games to “persuade” them to go along to get along, no matter how threatening to the security of the country that could be? Nope. No more Dems for me.
# 230 Avio
“it p%$##@ me off knowing this guy just set back blacks by decades…”
I’ve heard that sentiment before, although one poster said it (Obama) “has set race relations back 200 years.” Most of us in the general population know that people of color, women, old / young, leftists, righties, Christians / Buddhists, aren’t monolithic entities, that ultimately we are individuals.
I’m not at all denying that there are far too many racists in the U.S., or that institutionalized racism exists. I think distinctions should be made that there are those who are immersed in, and cultivate their racist views, while others have, and continue to consciously work through racist thoughts if /when they are confronted with them, whether from within, or from without. There’s also another group who don’t realize they are racist, they sincerely mean no harm, and just seriously aren’t aware of their racism or the effect they have on others, and often they don’t get it even when one points out and explains what it is that was said or done that makes it racist.
If Obama has done anything, he has added fuel to the existing fires of the first group, stung the second group by calling them racists, but their position of abhorance of racism will continue, in spite of him. It seems to me that the third group is the most vulnerable to persuasion. In that case, race relations ay have been set back.
There was a recent piece in mainstream media whose premise it was that racism is deeper and sexism is broader. I didn’t read the entire article. I don’t usually care much for those comparisons (competitions).
The bottom line is: a rising tide lifts all boats.
Hope this makes sense. I had surgery a few weeks ago and I’m still taking meds for the pain, so I’m not clear as to whether or not I’m making myself clear.
hey PUMAs
checkin in here…. been over at the McCain site, the clintons4mccain site and taking a looksie at various other JustSayNoDeal sites. sooooooo much to read. i’ve also been watching quite a bit of CSPAN and getting a comprehensive understanding of the whole drilling and energy debate. First of all, I have to point out to you guys that nObama has been up to his old tricks, attempting to portray himself as the only candidate calling for tougher restrictions on Oil Speculators. McCain has voiced the same position. Even today, I saw Dem Senator Barbara Boxer of California in the senate chamber saying McCain has been silent on the topic of tougher restrictions on speculators. she said “where has Senator McCain been on this? he’s been pretty quiet. i haven’t heard anything from him!” well well well, let me tell you PUMAs….i didn’t waste one minute before emailing Ms Boxer and referring her this link with Senator McCains speech from last Tues on the whole subject of Oil Speculators: http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/Speeches/Read.aspx?guid=d3ee7e45-7043-4623-ab99-ffbdeb7a431d
anyway PUMAs beware: nObama is going about his same tactics of LYING about his opponent. the McCain supporters are seeing it as nObama taking credit for McCain’s ideas. Gee, that sounds verrrrrry familiar (remember nObama copying Hillary’s Hurrincan Katrina Relief Plan?)
I agree with Brooklyn….. take a closer look @ mccain
i made up my mind a long time ago. i’m putting country before party. the democratic party is sucking up to an inexperienced highly questionable unscrupulous race-baiting FASCIST! ……
Today David Axerod has put out a List of 28 “code words” that will not be tolerated, that the nObama camp will label as racist or playing on people’s racial sentiments, that they feel is inappropriate or misleading. Here is the list of words considered off-limits:
Liberal, Socialist, Communist, Marxist, Collectivist, Naive, Inexperienced, Corrupt, Pretentious, Foolish, Weak, Appeasement, Gun Control, Rhetoric, Scandal, Preconditions, Raising taxes, Michelle Obama, Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Jimmy Carter, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Hamas, Flag Pin, Flip-Flop and 527
You’re forgiven. Even the good witches know there are bad witches in our midst.
And just for fun, I emailed Pelosi, Dean, and Brazile a little postcard with a basketball graphic. The text say, “If politics were like basketball, Obama would have fouled out for unsportsmanlike conduct. Too bad the refs (i.e., DNC) are too chicken to call Obama’s fouls.”
When citizens throughout the United States go to the polls on November 4, 2008, they will be voting not only for president but also for all 435 members of the House of Representatives and for one-third of the United States Senate. Attention will be focused on the presidential election, but the congressional elections are equally important.
Let’s get rid of Nancy.
I might take Dems who align themselves up with honorable Independents/Republicans and who prove beyond doubt they put country before party, but no more faith-based support for Dems. They can’t be trusted. They need to prove they’re independent-minded, honorable and not vulnerable to political blackmail, financial manipulation and control and that they believe in democratic principles. So far, they’re not doing too well on any of those counts.
#341 Nativeflower,
Same here. I think the best way to defeat no name in November is to vote McCain. We won’t win this battle by staying home or voting for another candidate. I just don’t see how.
ario,
i agree about the race relations. when this all happened with wright, i thought oh my gosh i didn’t realize african americans were so angry at whites. i thought we had come so far from that and i still believe that most black people don’t feel that way but i think if someone was leaning that way it incited them and then all the race baiting from obama’s camp is just making things so much harder. they make you feel like a racist just because you won’t vote for him. when i decided not to vote for him it didn’t even occur to me because he was an african american. it’s because he’s a con man and inexperienced. nothing to do with race.
Communist? That’s funny. HBO wrote in his book about a close friend and a mentor–Mr. Frank Marshall Davis was a member of the Communist Party of the USA fromm 1943-1945. They were close friends when HBO lived in Hawaii.
We need monitors on BO’s candidacy. Every time HE or any of his supporters or paid-for politicians mentions one of these words, we point out that they just played the race card.
I’m really serious about this. If they have banned those words, they shouldn’t be able to use them either. Strike them from the dictionary.
Are you serious?! That’s got to be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Why doesn’t he just say, “We won’t tolerate any opponents opening their mouths in any way, shape or form in opposition to the puppet on a string.”
yea Ario… can you believe it? i mean, what do you think? my idea of Post Racial is everyone being held accountable for their OWN actions… everyone being judged own their OWN merit. Axelrod is trying to inoculate obama from nearly any and all criticism with the allegation of racism. How is that Post Racial? frackin pisses me off. I was one who was actually excited about obama, but the second i heard about TUCC and read more and more about Jeremiah Wright… I simply could not in good conscious feel good about this guy. I am of mixed heritage myself and I’ve been waiting like alot of us for the person of color in the Oval Office, but this guy is NOT the person i’ve been waiting for. I believe Colin Powell would have been the man for the job.
I posted this earlier, but the “late shift” might not have seen it. This is the email I sent Nancy Pelosi (with copies to Greta Van Susteren and Howard Dean). I tried to remain polite so that Nancy Pelosi would actually read it.
Dear Speaker Pelosi,
You started out giving an excellent interview with Greta Van Susteren. I especially appreciate the kind words you had for Hillary Clinton.
However, you lost me when you began praising Barack Obama. I agree that his stated positions are closer to my own beliefs than John McCain’s are. However, Senator Obama is not a man of his word. Therefore, I can’t trust his stated positions.
I’m not a voter who will eventually come around. If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will vote for John McCain. It’s not because I prefer his policies. I don’t. It’s not because I’m upset about the sexism Hillary was subjected to. I’m not foolish enough to vote against my bests interests out of anger. It’s not because I wish to send a message to the DNC regarding the disenfranchisement we saw during the primaries. Again, that’s not a good enough reason to vote against my best interests.
It’s solely a question of character. Obama is a man of very bad character, too dangerous and too untrustworthy to be President of the United States.
I disagree with your position that Senator Obama’s relationship with Reverend Wright is not important. The way I see it, Obama spent 20 years embracing the hateful, poisonous attitudes that permeate Trinity Church. Those same hateful, poisonous attitudes dominate the blog posts from Obama supporters. When I see the hatred and violence that Obama inspires in his followers, I can only conclude that an Obama presidency would be dangerous for our nation and the world.
Beyond that, I’m turned off by Obama’s increasingly dismissive attitude. Refusing to do additional debates with Hillary when voters still wanted to hear debates was dismissive of Hillary and voters everywhere. Refusing to insist that Florida and Michigan delegates be seated in full was dismissive, not only to voters in those two states, but to voters everywhere. Refusing to accept McCain’s invitation for weekly town hall meetings is dismissive. Voters want to hear those debates, and we’re entitled to them. Even Obama’s refusal to accompany McCain to Iraq to see conditions firsthand is dismissive.
What this says to me is that a President Obama will be dismissive of everyone and everything that doesn’t serve his immediate interests. That’s unacceptable. We’ve had that from President Bush for the last eight years. I don’t want it anymore.
I don’t know why an intelligent, proactive woman such as yourself has fallen under Obama’s spell and can’t see him for the danger he is. However, you’re entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine.
Know that I have recently joined PUMA PAC and am actively working to defeat Obama. I pray that Obama self-destructs before the Democratic convention in August, while there’s still time to make Hillary our nominee. But if not Hillary, then McCain. It’s not a happy choice, but it’s the only appropriate one.
I found Pelosi’s claims that the “Reverend” Wright is not relevant VERY DISTURBING!!!!!!!!!!! WHERE WAS SHE ON 9/11????? These terrorists attacks were carried out based on what those terrorists believed to be the truth in their distorted view of America. They have been taught for years in the madrassas that the USA is the great Satan, etc.etc. WHAT SOMEONE BELIEVES MATTERS….SPECIALLY IF THAT SOMEONE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND WHAT THAT SOMEONE BELIEVES IS G….D…AMERICA….AND AMERICA’S CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!!!!
Axlerod’s racist terminology – are we re-inventing the English language? What is happening to our freedom of speech? I’ll tell you – it is being taken away from us.
Do BO supporters and his paid henchmen really believe that he is not going to turn on them once he has what he wants? Fools.
somebody named Okie on the mccain site posted about @ 6:52pm today and emailed it to another regular poster named JonBStephens who then found a way to get them past the filter on the mccain site (certain words won’t post in an effort to keep things civil and clean i guess) anyhoo, they are saying it came from CNN. I have been trying to track it down. did a google and there are indeed several references to Axelrod and off limits code words, but i cannot find the exact list for myself as of yet. if anyone can find it, please do!
Seems like that’s part of the plan. Eliminate the words from the language so no one can criticize Golden Boy. Another example of mind-control tactics. Wasn’t that part of the strategy in those science fiction novels of the Cold War era, i.e. “1984″ and “Brave New World”? Once again, coming to a theater near you…..
there is definetely a radical element in the black community….but its very very marginal…the blacks falling inline behind obama are doing this not because they agree with him….most of us dont…we dont believe in abortion…we dont believe in appeasement to terrorists…we are not anti-gun…we are staunch christians with a church on every corner…and we are very very conservative…but we also have the jacksons, obamas and sharptons that have a chock hold on our community….many are opposing this and it will be awhile before the bond is broken…but by far most blacks are not sitting in anti-american churches and anti-white….this is my problem with obama…he should know this…but then he is from chicago and since im from indiana i am familiar with chicago…like i always say the usa is like a whole buch of united countries…and state to state blacks differ…but obama is black and that trumps everything…and i feel this is wrong and not in the policy of martin luther king jr…
“Puppet on a string” that’s one we CAN use right. What are you guys doing up so late? AndI thought I was a night owl. Either that or you all are on the west coast.
I just read on ClintonDems that the Iowa state Democratic convention will be this weekend. If we lobby Edwards’ delegates to support Hillary, she could win that convention and pick up delegates for the national convention. If anyone has any websites or lists of pledged and superdelegates for lobbying, you can lobby them to support Hillary at the weekend convention in Iowa. Anyone have more info on lobbying these delegates?
I think this race divide issue is totally out of control. I mean, don’t all races have something that historically went really wrong and a history full of mistakes? I am Hispanic, our history is not exactly a perfect Disney story but I don’t choose to atend a “church” and listen to an “spiritual advisor” that will continue to reopen my wounds Sunday after Sunday, if my genuine intention is to heal and move on! Unless, of course I REALLY DON’T WANT TO MOVE ON, and want to continue to hate those that did my ancestors wrong. How can *61 run for an agent of Unity when he is nothing more than a great DIVIDER?!
ario,
i don’t feel it is in the spirit of mlkjr either. like i said i do believe most blacks are more conservative like you’re saying based on my own experience. i have an african american couple that live close by and they are probably the most conservative on the block. very professional and pleasant and that is why i was so shocked by rev. wrights comments and the fact that the congregation was right there with him. there is always that fringe element in any group of people but hopefully most people realize they don’t speak for everyone. i think most people realize that but it doesn’t help to have all of this race baiting from axelrod and obama.
another thing i don’t understand, women have waited a long time to have a president but i would not have voted for just any woman. i don’t understand that. i would want a woman that would represent us with dignity and intelligence. like Hillary!
these guys continuously keep their congregation feeling inferior and oressed so they can make money…
didnt u hear the story of rev wright “retiring” to a mansion on some island? i doubt the average person in his church has that kinda money! there is a church 2 blocks from my house…the pastor has a hummer…lexus and mercedes! hello…? its disgusting…but on a brighter note…many blacks ask me why i have a mccain/dr. rice bumper sticker…lol
but at the same time…we dont know obama…..i just hope the gop wont become cowards and become scared to expose him…thats one of the things i love about republicans….historically they have no problem exposing and bringing down phonies.
Remember how Rev. Wright said: “We speak to two different audiences. He tells his audience what they want to hear from a politician, and I tell my audience what they want to hear from a Priest. He’s just another politician.”
#391PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG on 06.25.08 at 2:57 am
It is important that we keep our eyes on the Prize! The August Democratic convention will decide who is the people’s choice for President. We must make our voices be heard because this is the last chance we have to get Hillary nominated for President.
If someone is trying to steal your home would you not defend your place? Well, instead of allowing this political mugging to take place we must stand up and fight back. In August, we can demand some mayor party reforms. Our Democratic Party is in need of some mayor house cleaning.
It is vital that all of Hillary’s delegates be there to make demands on all the Reforms that our party needs.
For starters, we should do away with the caucus system.
Once upon a time the caucuses may have served a need but just like the appendix in our bodies, once it goes bad it causes a lot of damage or even death. It is time we make surgical cut and get rid of the corrupt caucus system that lent itself to so much manipulation and intimidation of our members. The caucuses created divisions and lots of resentment. This is not good for any political party.
” PASS THE BUCK BO ” your over 100 “present ” in the Senate is not presidential material. You were not able to change Washington as a Senator.
Your “old dirty Chicago politics” is a clear indicator that there is nothing new or fresh about you. Your resume is so thin that We would never hire you to be the President of the United States!
BO, look at all the devision your political ambition has
brought to our Democratic Party. You are not a uniter, you are just a lot of trouble.
We will vote for all the Democrats to the House and Senate so the Democrats will have control come January 2009 but will not vote for BO. We rather leave the Presidential option blank as a form of protest if Hillary is not the Presidential nominee. We will try our hardest that in August, Hillary is nominated as the legitimate Democrat Presidential Nominee.
OUR VOICES WILL BE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR
” WITH HILLARY WE ARE ONE VOICE ”
” HILLARY IS THE PEOPLE’S CHOICE ”
I heard the “Rev” Wright was supposed to retire but hasn’t. He changed his mind after being thrown under the bus and came up with some lame excuse about not retiring because the new pastor was not ready after all…..I keep thinking we haven’t seen the last of him yet….perhaps the “reverend” feels that no name’s chickens need to come home to roost because no one throws HIM under the bus…specially those who used him and his congregation to run for the senate and for President and want to divorce him for political expidiency later!
Yes, agreed. But I think one of the pre-conditions for this to happen is that we retire Hillary’s debt. Until that happens, her hands are pretty much tied.
oh we havent heard the last of the rev. and obama knows it…its going to be interesting to watch…poor mccain…he needs to stay above it all and let his bad boys go after obama…and mccain better keep that sharp tongue and temper in check…let the bad boys do it mccain!
well, i think i’m getting hacked. i got booted off the computer, which never happens to me, and then it wouldn’t accept my password. that’s nice. but by all means lets all unite together.
Oh my…another thing that shocked me from Pelosi’s interview w/ Greta was when she didn’t even defend no name’s lack of experience. She basically admited he didn’t have any!
the whole thing kinda makes me sad when i think about it. i mean seriously, i’ll never forget the day i heard about tucc back in January. i sat there in disbelief. i had just added nObama to my myspace (i know, that’s kinda dorky but hey) and then i heard this whole mess mentioned on NPR. i just felt crushed and stunned. like someone said, this is not what the Honorable MLK fought for and stood for. He did not fight for one group to Stop Hate just for another group to Start Hate.
good night pumas…. lets just pray that God will always guide America no matter who is our prez
I’m done voting a Democratic Party line. The Dems had control of Congress for the last 2 years and they gave us BO. No. Sorry. I’ll never again vote for any politician based on party. BO didn’t get where he is through by magic. The Dems as a whole were complicit in this fraud. Just as I’m gonna be remembering in November, I’m also gonna be remembering in December, January, February, etc…..The party clean-up is going to take a lot longer than until the Convention or even the election. It’s going to be years. In the meantime, I’m going for individuals that can be trusted, that put the interests of this country first and stand for the principles this country is founded on. If I want the Taliban, I’ll go to Afghanistan.
same here guys and gals….im off to bed…well maybe iafter i grab a quick bite…goodnite pumas!
#401PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG on 06.25.08 at 3:11 am
PUMAINDY 391
Agreed, Hillary needs our help to get the financial hurdle out of the way but August is around the corner and we must take care of all these issues at once.
Part of the political mugging that Hillary suffered was a dirty game to break her financially. BO was given to much ” free ” positive media coverage in the mean time Hillary got charged a lot of pretty pennies for lousy media coverage.
We can work on getting rid of her financials debts incurred and at the same time get her nominated in August as our leader to win the November elections!
I don’t mean to come across as a negative person. But, the message the DNC has sent to ALL OF US has been clear. THEY (not us) HAVE THEIR NOMINEE. Did you know that the DNC has moved their operations to Chicago? This move speaks volumes to me. THEY ARE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO! That, of course does not stop us from protesting what they are doing. But watch, their minds are made up. We have been seeing that from the very beginning. They ignored 18 million voters Phoenix once and they are determined to do it again because it fits their agenda. I think the only way to stop *61 is to vote McCain in November!
Yes, folks at the DNC have been very clear … “We don’t care. Get over it.”
That’s why most of the letters and emails I write these days are aimed at backing Obama into a corner where he’s forced to participate in the weekly town hall meetings that McCain keeps asking for. Maybe then his weaknesses will be sufficiently exposed to make superdelegates reconsider how they will vote in Denver. Our best weapon against Obama is Obama himself.
I know Firebelle, but the question is, will he do it? I think this whole thing is pathetic. He is such a flawed and wounded candidate and it kills me to now see Hillary being the one to literally carry him on HER shoulders so he can cross the finish line.
You are right, the DP is stuck with the “chosen” one. The Clintons were forced to endorse *61. What does that say about the party “trying” to put on a united front? Listening to Pelosi, McGaskill, and company reminds me of the movie “The Stepford Wives.”
I am definitely voting for McCain in November. The key in defeating *61 is to “follow the money.” I am so ashamed of the Democratic Party. The corruption in his organization will take time to unravel.
#412PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG on 06.25.08 at 3:32 am
BROOKLYN NY 397
Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water. Reforms need to start somewhere and the best forum to get these Reforms going is at our Democrat Convention in August. When things go wrong you do not abandon your country. Why not take over our Party and make it better???
These last eight years have been terrible for our
Nation. We do not want more of the “Bush” failed policies!!!
We can not afford 4 more years of the same! It will bankrupt our Country and send our economy into the most horrible depression it has ever been. The depression we suffered before, will pale in comparison…
Our financial down fall will affect other nations and could bring about the next World War Three.
These are critical times and the wrong leader at the helm could cause a lot of world wide suffering for the human race.
Enough damage has been done, we Democrats must step in and clean up this mess!!!
The more Unions we form the stronger we are. We must make one large push in August to get Hillary nominated! We must demand some mayor Reforms. We are18 million strong and it’s time we let our voices be heard.
Actually, BO is only 1/16 Black African-American. Extensive research of his family shows his father was mostly Arabic, as evidenced by his fully Arabic name. While there is nothing wrong with BO being Arab-American, he is lying about his ethnicity to try to appeal to African-Americans by trying to convince them his father was entirely of the same Sub-Saharan ancestry they are to get there votes. What’s more is that his family in Kenya were slave traders in the nineteenth century. I think he knows that if the truth of his ethnicity and family were to come out, it would erode his support among the African-American community.
Roxy, he won’t do it if he can help it, because he knows he’s extremely vulnerable. He can’t get out a coherent sentence without the help a teleprompter and the scripted words of his speech writers.
However, I keep sending letters and emails to the media, nudging them to egg him into it. Challenge him to a duel, so to speak. If the media and voters make enough noise about it, maybe he’ll be backed into a corner where he has to respond.
Thanks for the clarification. I knew he was more “mutt” than I gave him credit for, but I was too lazy to look into his heritage. Not that I care anyhow. I wouldn’t like him if he were white. I wouldn’t like him if he were a woman. His heart is black, and I’m not referring to race.
If we try to help promote the book about HBO, we might give the media and McCain more than enough to work with. I’ll call the writer’s office tomorrow to see what they are planning. That could be our key to getting Hillary into the White House. That guy did EXTENSIVE research on HBO. He obviously knows how to help us. I HOPE!
I could not DISagree with you MORE regarding your solution to the dire straits we’re in. First of all, McCain is NOT Bush. If you check out his policies and his history (which is long and unquestionably NOT Bush) you will see this. To believe otherwise is simply to buy Dean et al.’s putrid snow job. In my book, Country Comes Before Party. The Democratic Party has sold its integrity and its core constituency down the river, not to mention what it has done to the founding principles upon which this country proudly rests. Before I EVER support them blindly again, they will have to prove to me BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT they have reformed shameful ways. I’m not abandoning my country. My “country” is NOT the Democratic Party. My country IS America.
How about faxing or emailing our daily flyers to DNC and super delegates? Do you think they know about him flip-floping on many issues? Maybe we shoud remind them about it.
What I meant is The “reverend” as the good hate mongering agent that he is, will not take *61′s slight laying down. Oh no, no one does THAT to him not even the DNC’s pressumed nominee!
#422PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG on 06.25.08 at 3:49 am
Roxy in Cal 403
We the people, for the people are not going to lay down and roll over. We, the 18 million strong must stand up and make the DNC listen to its members. If the DNC is unable to respond or listen to the people then it is time that we do some mayor house cleaning and reforms to the DNC. In August will will declare our cry of rebellion and demand that our voices be heard:
” REFORM”
We must not conform but instead make the necessary repairs to our political party! . Our Democratic Party belongs to us and we must not allow for it to be stolen from us. It is bad enough that Hillary suffered a political mugging !
In August we start our movement of Reform and we will raise our voices to have Hillary nominated our our Presidential nominee!!!!!!!!!!!!
HBO claims that he works across party lines–WELCOME!!! Republican candidate from Oregon says that they worked together, but HBO wants Democrat to win. OOPPPSSS! Worked across party lines, and now backing out of it again. Have fun with this article.
Clearly, we can make a difference with our votes. But beyond that, we need realistic, effective plans. Most of the things that have been discussed (protests in Denver, letters, emails, etc.) give us visibility. They don’t necessarily reform the party.
Guys, somthings else nobama is going to do if we do not stop him He is going to hurt a lot of people. Part of his supporters are Africans Americans that only heard him speak once or twice when he came to NC or SC etc. They are so busy trying to keep food on the table and gas in their cars to even watch the cable news. These people never even registered to vote until his team “got” them to. They really believe that if they get an African American president all of a sudden they will have medical coverage and the welfare system back. You and I know that if he get in the oval office they will be forgotten. Those of us who work in the medical field know how hard the fight is now to get any thing for people with out really good insurance let alone no insurance, it frightens me to think of what could happen with him in there.
I had an idea. I know that Hillary had laid out some plans for health care, but I never did see any from NObama. Maybe we could do a side by side flyer and have them at the convention, especially at the states where there are high risk populations. What do you all think
Back in minute baby crying again
Yes, I hear you, but WE THE PEOPLE must know what if anything WE will do in the event that the Party that left us along time ago chooses to continue to ignore our protest. I don’t pretend to know what every body else will do, but I know I WILL VOTE MCCAIN if Hillary is not the nominee! I’m not leaving my party, my party LEFT ME!!!!!!!!!!! Now, I will do what’s right for my country and pray that others will do the same.
#430PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG on 06.25.08 at 4:02 am
BROOKLYN NY
The same way you do not abandon your country when it is in trouble with that same love you do not abandon your party when it is in trouble. We must stick together and help bring about the Reforms to our party that will make it heal. ” It is not what your party can do for you but what you can do for your party”
We both agree that BO is not the right candidate for President. We will choose to leave the Presidential candidate section blank as a form of protest but we will vote for a Democrat House and Senate ( with one exception: vote Pelosi out). If McCain is elected he can work with a Democrat House and Senate.
But we are getting ahead of our selves. We must work together in August for Hillary to be elected as our nominee!!!!
Side-by-side comparisons are a good idea. However, we can’t wait until Denver. Not if we want superdelegates to reconsider and throw their support behind Hillary at the convention.
Besides, the DNC has already chosen their candidate. They’re no longer interested in comparisons between Hillary and Obama. That’s a done deal in their minds. Done. Gone. Over with.
I still believe that where we need to focus our energy now is in showing how weak Obama is against McCain. The only way we can turn this around for Hillary is if the DNC and superdelegates become convinced that Obama will lose in November. Then and only then will they rethink who they want as the nominee.
#433PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG on 06.25.08 at 4:17 am
FIREBELLE
First step is to abolish the corrupt caucus system that lent it self to so much manipulation and intimidation to our democrat members. The primary system should resemble the same system we use in November to elect our leaders. Some legislation needs to be considered to look into the political coup the media layed on this nation!
We must make it a standing rule that a nominee is determined at the Democratic Convention and not be determined by the media.
This a great subject to open a forum and get as much input from all of our members to come out with a stronger and better party for all.
I am one of the 18 million that wants Hillary elected and our party reformed!!! The Reform must start somewhere so why not start it here with us Pumas!!!!
My Country comes BEFORE my party. I haven’t got the time nor the patience to wait for the Democratic Party to “heal.” My love for country WAY supersedes any feelings I have for party. I do not swear allegiance to the Democratic Party. I swear allegiance to AMERICA. Excuse me, sorry if I get a little hot under the collar here, but please don’t misquote John F. Kennedy in such a despicable way. JFK did not advocate doing what you can for your PARTY! He said “Ask not what your COUNTRY can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.” And what I can do for my country right now is make sure the Democratic Party never gets my vote again, unless and until it becomes a democratic party. I will not leave the presidential portion of the ballot blank. NOT A CHANCE. I will vote for McCain without the slightest reservations! I trust him. I respect him. I believe he has the best interests of the country (not his party, his COUNTRY) at heart. I can wait the months and years it will take the DNC to clean itself up, if indeed it doesn’t go extinct before that occurs….and then MAYBE I will take another look at it. Sometimes when things are rotten to the core, Phoenix, you have to throw them out. Not every story has a happy ending.
I agree that the caucus system should be abolished. But how? If I understand correctly, even the DNC doesn’t have a legal right to force states to change to a primary system. I think each state is legally entitled to choose the system it prefers.
I’m not sure that I agree with you regarding the nominee being determined at the convention. That would place the decision in the hands of delegates and superdelegates, effectively taking the vote away from voters. On the other hand, can we really rely on the popular vote? Nearly 18 million people fell for Obama’s BS.
Perhaps we need a different system altogether. But don’t ask me. I don’t understand politics enough to suggest something better.
Firebelle puma
So same principle except I have not looked at anything McCain has come up with. but example.
health plan of McCain vs Obama.
haalth plan of McCain vs Clinton
show reason why public whould pick McCain over Obama do the same for education, ecomony etc. These we could send to superdelegates etc.
CNN and other friends will not want to “start working” on HBO for a while. Information and constantly promoting it all will save us. Every letter in every article about him, every TV appearance, every newspaper article and magazine interview (we have to get to it ASAP) will bring us closer to getting rid of him. After many TV appearances, now is the time to get different newspapers and magazine to interview us, and get the word out about us. I’ll start to work on local newspapers in the morning.
Maybe. Honestly, I haven’t looked closely at their policies. Once I decided that I didn’t like Obama’s character, that became more important than any policy issues.
But I still keep pushing the idea of backing Obama into a corner where he has to agree to the joint town hall meetings with McCain. Obama is more than capable of showing his weaknesses against McCain if put in to the right position. I’d rather work smarter than harder. Let Obama self-destruct. Why should I have to do the work for him?
#439PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG on 06.25.08 at 4:33 am
BROOLYN
We respect your opinion that you feel confortable with McCain. What we must not allow is for one party to control the House and Senate together with the President position. The last eight years is proof that one party can not have an overwhelming control. If We have Democrat House and Senate with McCain as President, it is an acceptable combination.
Lets not accept defeat that is too negative, lets start reforming our Democratic Party.
( But we still are getting ahead of our selves. )
We have a battle to win in August and that is just around the corner. Join us is helping Hillary be nominated in August!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to think on this some, but I do agree on the idea of pushing him into the town all meetings. I just have doubts that whomever operates his puppets strings will ever let him do it.
What city and state does Murphy live in? We should get to their local newspaper. I tried to do it here in CA. I called the office and they transfered me to the editor in chief. He told me to email the story to him. I didn’t and that’s why we didn’t get a very big exposure before the caucus to select the delegates to go to the convention. So, we need to call them, find out how to get a “press release” in the paper. We need to make sure that they have received it, and will print it. Talking to reporters is also very important. That should be our next project besides flooding DNC with emails, letters, etc.
No kidding. That’s why I keep harping on what it says if he doesn’t do it.
After all, how many times during the primary season did he say, “I welcome that debate with John McCain”? Oh yeah? Well, now John McCain keeps asking for debates, and Obama says no. That tells me he’s not a man of his word.
How many times has Obama insisted he’s a leader when it comes to reaching across the aisle? The dimwit can’t even reach across his campaign platform to one of the senators he’d have to work with as President. Again, he’s not a man of his word. And he’s not at all bipartisan.
These are the points we need to keep hammering home. If he doesn’t do the weekly debates, he’s a liar. If he does do them, he self-destructs. But we can’t let him off the hook.
#445PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG on 06.25.08 at 4:54 am
FIREBELLE 434
BO would not have made it very far without the corrupt caucus system! The caucus system represents a small portion of the voters that are able to attend the meetings at night. It is true that a lot of people fell for BO’s BS but on the same token so did a lot of People fall for Bush BS. Both are not good examples of leaders!!!!
One thing both (BO & Bush) have in common: the Media pushed them on us. We the people need to ask our Legislators to look into the violations to our Democracy perpetrated by the Media. The Media was allowed to be very verbally abusive to Hillary our Democrat Senator. If some type of collusion took place then a special prosecutor must me named. We do not want Big Brother to be brain washing us and making our decisions !!!!!!
pumas
you must understand
that the pelosi, is not that she is pro, pro obama
is that she is against CLINTON
she can not take that HILLARY be the 1rst woman president
I think that it all cames down to lower instincts
Let me know when you figure out how to correct these injustices. My friends and I have similar discussions. We can easily “solve the world’s problems” during our phone conversations. It just don’t translate to the rest of the world.
#448PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG on 06.25.08 at 5:03 am
FIREBELLE
I LOVE THIS CHOIR!
This choir can be the birthplace of our Democratic Reform Party!!!!.
And on that note … pun intended … I’m crawling off to bed, where the teddy bears are waiting. My little choir has already begun singing happy birthday to their mommy.
#450PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG on 06.25.08 at 5:11 am
The whole election has been a joke, from the very beginning the dems were pushing *61 at us, I think Hillary recognized it way before us, yet, she still thought she could win.
I am African-American also, and Firebelle Puma, you are right Obama is barely black, he has gotten into the fold, passed himself off as A-A. If he should win heaven help us all.
Nancy Pelosi, is more of what is wrong with this country, we have allowed all of these dems. a free pass, now when it’s important to us to represent our views, we find them lacking.
I am ashamed that the A-A’s are for this clown, he has divided this country, it will take along time to heal the wounds, caused by this election. I have been for Hillary, and will always be here, no one tells me how to vote, and my vote is not for sale.
I will vote for McCain, this fall, I have never voted Republican, I don’t have to worry about his patriotism.
#369 NativeFlower
Thanls for the source(s) of the list. When you first posted the list, I thought you were serious, thne I thought that has to be a joke. Now I realize once again, that it’s serious.
I think the only words mr constitution man will end up allowing are I’mVotingForObama.
I posted this at Gretawire regarding her interview with Pelosi:
Greta,
Thank you for giving voice to many of us who are concerned about not only racism and sexism, but the sheer malice displayed by Senator Obama’s supporters during the DNC primary. Thank you for NOT ignoring your e-mails. Obviously, Nancy Pelosi is ignoring hers and that’s why some of us are viewing McCain as the lesser of two evils.
If the Democrats were truly concerned about universal health care, they would have supported its foremost champion, Senator Clinton. The Dems have proved to be just as corrupt and heedless as the Repubs.
The only good thing to come out of this campaign is the development of PUMAPac and other groups disgusted with politics as usual. We deserve better and we deserve to be heard. This “engineered” nomination was an important catalyst for voters who are demanding the clean-up of the very polluted political system in this country.
Love this quote:
“Just like most politicians in America, Obama will say and do anything it takes to get elected, true to the dirty politics of Chicago – where he rose to political power. And Chicago politics makes Washington politics look like a tennis match between old ladies.”
In case anyone missed it, CNN was showing clips of Obama answering questions from reporters. If you closed your eyes you would swear you were listening to Bush. There were so many errrsss in each answer, I had to turn the tv off and tell my husband to get his news somewhere else
AHHHH!!! If he’s elected, I won’t be able to take another 4 years of not being able to listen to the President speak when it’s not written down for him. I may have to sell my tv.
I had to be off this evening for awhile and can not catch up on the posts. Early tomorrow.
The Debt.
The Debt.
The Debt.
Money talks in politics and if we can’t retire a 20 million dollar total when Obot has 100′s of millions at his disposal, then “they” aren’t going to take the coalition seriously.
Thanks Taffy for explaining the troll thing. I’m sure I’m not the only one who needs an education.
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Hillary has asked us to pay the debt
She is not worried about personal loan but wants to get her vendors paid off
Awww a kitty about to play sedistic playtime with a DNC birddie. How cute.
KILL THE BIRDIE
ACTION ALERT!
Tomorrow’s (6-25-08) Daily Growl is now up on the PP Action Center!
http://www.pumapacusa.org/growls/growls.html
since that looks like a chicken we should call him Howie!
Again Folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!
okay here are the details:
Unity NH, Unity Elementary School, 6/27/08, 12:00
Unity is right off of I91 which makes it a reasonable trip from Springfield MA, Boston Ma, Hartford CT, Albany NY, and of course parts of NH and VT. You can map quest it and simply put in Unity Elementary School in place of “business” Unity is a town of only 1,700 so I doubt that there will be a crowd of 10,000. A couple hundred Puma’s would make the news and the place will be crawling with national media because this the first appearance of Hillary and Obama together. If only handful of us show up it will be dismissed, no doubt, as those disgruntled people, but if a few hundred show up……….
So who’s up for this? Bring a pair of flip flops.
An interesting article-Obama’s money cartel.
http://www.counterpunch.org/martens05052008.html
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Pelosi inferring she never received any negative emails….hmmmm…my my my we need to do something extra for her. What a sow!!!
More reading material:
Go to FT.com (financial times) and scroll down to World News. Click on Obama Under Fire (re Iraq). Another flip-flop maybe.
For the first night in a long while, I’m going to bed before 2 AM!
Nite all. Enjoy the Growl for tomorrow. It’s been sent and is now up on the Action Site.
Hugs,
MarylandPUMA
Goodnight Maryland PUMA. Thanks for all you do to support PUMA and Murphy.
vonay Hillary and bo are meeting in dc tomorrow at 1:15
Okay, the Greta interview with Pelosi just aired in Ohio.
Is Pelosi insane? Seriously, I laughed out loud at her pathetic responses.
When Greta asked her what experience BO had that Americans could base a decision on, she basically said he doesn’t have any! Her response was something like “oh, well, the American people have decided they want someone new”.
HUH???
Why are Obamabots so foolish to believe that one person could change Washington? It is the way it is. No one is going to change it EVER. You have to learn to play the game and play it well. And one way to prove that you can play the game is to stay in it. Which brings to mind–> Hillary.
Don’t forget to visit the PP Action Center and click on the “Pay Down Her [Sen. Clinton] Debt” link.
http://www.pumapacusa.org/index.html#pay
looks good PA!
Hi all, I’m doing my share of passing money around. I just had to do it, I just HAD to donate a few dollars to John McCain!
Reason; There was a question on the donation page that asked if a friend “referred” you.
OF COURSE I though to myself, now I must share!
I filled in the blank with this;
Howard Dean Democratic National Committee Chairman!
Think that will raise a few eyebrows?
Now, McCain is having a “donate” and ride on his bus…ahem, I think after “my friend” donation I should be the “chosen” one!
I for one will absolutely vote for McCain over what’s his name….thanks Howie!
Nancy Pelosi is so smug and self centered she makes me sick! Greta is trying her best to let Pelosi know that we will NOT vote for Obama, but Pelosi is Obama all the way. She shows no concern for the 18 million voters who want Hillary. She said, “there was a vote and Hillary lost, Obama will bring change.” She needs to be voted OUT!
Taffy, I belong to HillaryClintonForum.net and over there we’re planning on donating big to Hillary on July 4th… To help celebrate her financial independence. We don’t want BO’s help at all.
Yes,I’m in Ohio too and couldn’t find the mute button fast enough. It seems there are no televison channels I can watch anymore without my blood pressure skyrocketing! What is happening? Is this truly the bizzaro world?
When Pelosi is up for re-election, hope the voters in her state will decide THEY want someone new!
Hi everyone i was just furious with Pelosi. Who does she think she is?? I sure could call her a few names. Yes we need to let her know how wrong she is. Making Obumbus look pure GRRRRRRRRRRR
Goodnight PUMAs…early day again tomorrow…see you in the am…
LOVE tomorrow’s Daily Growl!
#18 go_Ohio_Lady
She makes me sick too. She is a disgrace.
Lorelai, I’ve turned off the TV months ago… lol
Obama’s Birth Certificate BAMBOOZLE, Cont.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/21/obamas-birth-certificate-bamboozle-cont/
Does anyone know if Sheila 7′s flower idea went through today, I posted it at Camille’s Bitterpoliticz site and then found out. .. .Hillary is in Senate today!
So, are people sending flowers still?
#17 bythelake,
That’s awesome! I’m going to do it too!
All i can say is Good Bye Pelosi . She looked like she was older than Mccain on Tv.
Good night, Pumas. Had enough of Pelosi to last me a life time.
The Certificate of Live Birth may turn out to be as fraudulent as the Obama Seal!
Nancy Pelosi came across as a kindergarten legislator.
She is a poor example of a female role model. Let us flood her email with regrets for wanting an inexperienced candidate to take over Washington…..
She convinced me that she was/is afraid of the role HILLARY would play as President.
GO HILLARY ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION…..
Pelosi said that all women faced some racism but she was to busy at her job to notice anything happening to Hillary and then completely and conveniently changed the subject. She was trying to say that voting for McCain would be a bad thing for women and we would eventually have to pick Obama. I really dislike that woman. When asked about Obama and his judgement with Wright she said oh well at least he went to church. What a bunch of hogwash and that’s being polite. I am so miffed.
Pelosi needs some more pressure. I won’t call her what they like to call Hillary because it is just not right but I certainly dislike her. Sorry for the rant. I had to get it out.
#25 sisterdo – Sheila is still coordinating with Hillary’s senate office to ensure they will accept the deliveries. Hopefully we can wrap up tomorrow in the am – stay tuned…
‘Nite all.
Taffy, I did hear that today. Are Puma’s going to be there protesting or something?
#17, I just donated $5.44 in Honor of Hillary to McCain today… Just want the chance to be on the bus to see if he’ll take all of us seriously.
Well we all keep doing what we are doing Obumbus will never win.
pooh496,
OMG did Polosi really say ” at least he went to church”?
My gosh how unbelievable.
Can you all imagine if Hillary had went to a skin head or KKK church/meeting for 20 years?
I can NOT believe these people who act like that racist anti american church is ok.
“THE DENVER GROUP IS NOW OPEN AND ACCEPTING CONTRIBUTIONS
The Denver Group is pleased to announce that we are now prepared to accept contributions. We have installed a donate button on our site to make it as easy as possible for contributions through PayPal, credit card or check.
We will use all the means at our disposal, primarily mass media through newspapers and television and any other form or media we deem appropriate to accomplishing our goals which is to insure that Howard Dean and the DNC have a fair, democratic,and open convention which adheres to democratic principles which means clearly and without compromise that Senator Clinton’s name must be on the ballot and that there is a roll call vote.
The only democratic process possible or acceptable is that Senator Clinton’s delegates have the opportunity to cast their votes on behalf of the 19 million voters they represent and super delegates must be given the choice and the opportunity at the convention, to cast their votes for the candidate they believe is both the strongest and most qualified to win in November and to execute the office of President once elected.”
For more about helping Hillary
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Do you believe that pelosi is she on drugs or what I believe she is up for re-election this time around. I think it is strange that her big money people are meeting with him and her on friday why would her money people be doing that.
Dont get mad at Pelosi…get even…..DONATE TO HILLARY TONIGHT……ANY AMOUNT…..LETS MAKE THIS A BIG NIGHT FOR HILLARY…
Pelosi let us all know very early on that she wanted Hillary out of the race. It’s one thing to say you’re for a candidate but it’s another thing when everything you say directly supports one candidate over the other, yet you say you’re “neutral”.
vonay murphy put up an action alert on the other thread (lol) but nothing formal was organized. Just if you’re in the area PUMA signs to show support doubt if they’ll be hanging around outside at all. my bet is straight into building.
Vonay,
Yup, that’s what she said. Talk about a stupid answer.
And the main page for the Denver Group, is Dr. Heidi Li Feldman’s page at Heidi Li’s Potpourri at WordPress.
Many know she’s been big in getting the word out about Retiring the Debt, and has been working on a Denver project……..so this is the unveiling.
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And if there’s a Flower movement still, I cross-posted it at Bitterpoliticz (all here are welcome at any time, just a bunch of chit chat like here– it’s Camille424′s site at word press)
I posted Sheila 7′s flower movement there, I wonder what came of it.
If you haven’t checked out daily growl for tomorrow it’s a letter printed for pelosi. might want to print tonight and get it ready to go.
Pelosi has certainly received negative e-mails from me… including 3 more a few minutes ago which contain band-aids. The hard copy version is already in the mail to her and Dean and the very stinky flip-flops from last summer which my daughter has outgrown are on their way too!
#26, your friend could be Pelosi!
#5 Taffy on 06.24.08 at 10:49 pm
Yes howard the coward : – )
Well she sure will hear from me.
I vented in the last few posts down below. I believe the complete interview is on Gretawire. .. Correct me if I am wrong. She has the nerve to say she did not know about the treatment Hillary was getting? Oh I am so angry. How can she sleep at night? She is a ****.
I agree. I saw a few minutes of the Pelosi interview and could not stomach it. This woman is incompetent and completely uninformed. Her responses about Obama’s experience, or lack thereof, was completely unacceptable and the Rev. Wright comment was ludicrous. What a disgrace. Now we know who or what is influencing the DNC.
#47 Hillgirl on 06.24.08 at 11:11 pm
Pelosi smokes hopium : – )
Sad, I just heard on our Local ABC News that Obama is asking his campaign contributors to help retire her debt….
Yes, it’s on ABC’s website….
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/obama-asks-top.html
Good night PUMAs…haven’t said too much tonight. A lot to think about. Been taking it all in. All I know is that I will never vote for BO.
#747 4hillinca and #749 go Ohio Lady
Watching Pelosi has made me soooooooo angry. What flipping planet is she living on. I think maybe some Botox has slipped into what she has of a brain.
How dare she say she was to “busy” running her own campaign to know or should I say CARE what was happening to Our Girl. Maybe she was afraid of some great competiton if Our Girl was President. Take alittle light off the old speaker of the house. And another thing if she thinks “fresh” is needed in the Oval Office then why the hell is she running for re-election…sorry by no means is she “fresh”. I also noticed the comment about having a President that “she” can work with and is open to things! Yeah like pay offs
I am so upset that I can hardly type – I keep making typos !!!!!
WELL TO MS PELOSI – I WILL NOT GET OVER IT – NO NOT HOLD WHAT WOMEN SHOULD FEAR ABOUT MCCAIN AS PRESIDENT – I WILL NOT VOTE FOR YOUR “PICKED PUPPET IN AN EMPTY SUIT” TO BE YOUR SIDEKICK- I HOPE WHOEVER CAN GETS YOU OUT AS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE….CAUSE EMMMMM – I’D LIKE SOMETHING – EMMMMM – OH YEAH “FRESH”
#25 Flower movement still in works. Sheila7 is just waiting for OK from Hillary’s office.
We have to go after her for pretending she didn’t know about the sexism against Hillary. She has NO credibility after that interview. Murphy, if you are still here, please get that into your appearance tomorrow. I cannot believe Pelosi! The audacity of Crap!
#37 prplvette85
I’m very discouraged that Hillary is going to have Obama’s people help pay down the debt. I bet the Obamabots are dancing in the streets in glee as they get to parade this under our noses now.
I understand why she did it, time is running out on the deadline to have the debt paid, but still.
Truthfully it feels like a sellout, that’s my feelings on it.
I despise the thought of the Obama morons having a one up on us.
Oh well, in politics everyone is your friend and everyone is your enemy. And selling your soul to the devil is not uncommon
CT, I’ll pledge that as well.. A vote for BO will never happen. He needs to implode before the convention.
#60 If I learned anything from this primary it is… only listen to Hillary!!!
NOOOO.
I do not want Obarf to pay her debt. I mean geez. He already tries to make her do his bidding.
Awful.
#59 antifish
Pelosi doesn’t care what she does, she has no conscience, she’s probably slowly letting air out of the tires on that bus just so it presses harder on those that were thrown under it.
Night all… Tomorrow’s another day.
#60 The Obamites don’t want to help Hillary pay down her debt just as much as we don’t want to donate to obama’s campaign. I think it will still be up to her supporters
My pledge too. No vote for Obama. Never!
#29 sandipuma
What do her looks have to do with anything?
#66 Dem4Hillary
I agree but nonetheless, its out there now that he will help with her debt in return for her support. And that irks me
Just One smart Hillary!!! Her contributors are maxed out…his are maxed out. but they can contribute to the other candidate. so you give a dollar to me, i give a dollar to you. But I end up with no debt and you spend all yours on campaigning
My letter to Nancy Pelosi,
In honor of your interview tonight I made my first monetary donation to John McCain.
You can bet your bottom dollar that me and 18 million other voters of Hillary Clinton whom had the most popular vote will NEVER forget how we were kicked to the curb.
I want to know, how you sleep at night? You know what they say, if you lay with dogs you get fleas.
Well, us 18 million voters have “flea spray”!
We’ll see who’ll be licking their wounds in November!
Debbie,
Disgusted democrat for John McCain
This reminds me of the movie Cleopatra when Ceasarian conquers Egypt and wants to parade her in front of his people to humiliate her. Of course, she kills herself but my favorite part is when she writes him a letter and says that she has made so many promises to so many men that one more won’t matter. Lol!
#71 bythelake
Even the fleas wouldn’t go near her, bitterness doesn’t attract them
#69 I hadn’t read that, yet; althought I was expecting it to come. Where is that? Do you have a link?
My Letter to Nancy Pelosi …
Dear Speaker Pelosi,
You started out giving an excellent interview with Greta Van Susteren. I especially appreciate the kind words you had for Hillary Clinton.
However, you lost me when you began praising Barack Obama. I agree that his stated positions are closer to my own beliefs than John McCain’s are. However, Senator Obama is not a man of his word. Therefore, I can’t trust his stated positions.
I’m not a voter who will eventually come around. If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will vote for John McCain. It’s not because I prefer his policies. I don’t. It’s not because I’m upset about the sexism Hillary was subjected to. I’m not foolish enough to vote against my bests interests out of anger. It’s not because I wish to send a message to the DNC regarding the disenfranchisement we saw during the primaries. Again, that’s not a good enough reason to vote against my best interests.
It’s solely a question of character. Obama is a man of very bad character, too dangerous and too untrustworthy to be President of the United States.
I disagree with your position that Senator Obama’s relationship with Reverend Wright is not important. The way I see it, Obama spent 20 years embracing the hateful, poisonous attitudes that permeate Trinity Church. Those same hateful, poisonous attitudes dominate the blog posts from Obama supporters. When I see the hatred and violence that Obama inspires in his followers, I can only conclude that an Obama presidency would be dangerous for our nation and the world.
Beyond that, I’m turned off by Obama’s increasingly dismissive attitude. Refusing to do additional debates with Hillary when voters still wanted to hear debates was dismissive of Hillary and voters everywhere. Refusing to insist that Florida and Michigan delegates be seated in full was dismissive, not only to voters in those two states, but to voters everywhere. Refusing to accept McCain’s invitation for weekly town hall meetings is dismissive. Voters want to hear those debates, and we’re entitled to them. Even Obama’s refusal to accompany McCain to Iraq to see conditions firsthand is dismissive.
What this says to me is that a President Obama will be dismissive of everyone and everything that doesn’t serve his immediate interests. That’s unacceptable. We’ve had that from President Bush for the last eight years. I don’t want it anymore.
I don’t know why an intelligent, proactive woman such as yourself has fallen under Obama’s spell and can’t see him for the danger he is. However, you’re entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine.
Know that I have recently joined PUMA PAC and am actively working to defeat Obama. I pray that Obama self-destructs before the Democratic convention in August, while there’s still time to make Hillary our nominee. But if not Hillary, then McCain. It’s not a happy choice, but it’s the only appropriate one.
I’m off to bed now. G’night all!
Don’t forget the Daily Growl for tomorrow is up on the PP Action Center.
And also don’t forget to visit the Action Center main and click on the “Pay Down Her [Sen. Clinton] Debt” link. There was a front page article in our City newspaper about her debts owed to local facilities and businesses from her campaign stops here in PA. She really needs our help. We’re nearing the $2000 mark!
http://www.pumapacusa.org/index.html#pay
Hello, I just came in to say goodnight. Don’t want to miss the wonderful Murphy at 6:20 A.M. EST, 5:20 A.M. C.S.T. (I’m C.S.T.)
I will probably have nightmares after the Pelosi interview. Like you above, I jumped off the couch when she answered, “I’m just glad he went to church.” That is by far the STUPIDEST thing I have ever heard in a long time.
The 9/11 terrorists went to church (mosque).
Satanists go to church.
The mild-mannered accountant clerk who just blew away his family went to church.
Jim Jones went to church.
Jeremiah Wright goes to church, and has a crowd of folks clapping and stomping and praising every word he says, and Obama was one of them “once upon a time.”
This woman has no clue–she sounded mad at the questions. She’s sick of it. She knows we’re here to stay. She thinks she can wag that finger (she wagged her finger, y’all) at us and tell us to behave ourselves.
I’m a free person who thinks for myself. I can handle a little pain–I’ve survived almost 8 years of G.Bush.
Gosh–she was so arrogant.
On that note—I’m outta here. See you tomorrow.
Murphy, sweet dreams.
I got the impression she was scolding all of us who don’t “understand what we are missing.” She is a fool.
#64 Trish,
I agree. She is pathetic. To think, the Congress she leads has the lowest approval rating in history and she’s still in charge. Why don’t her underlings revolt? They’d be doing themselves, and us, a favor. I hate to say this, but it’s true, she’s only holding on to power because she is the first woman Speaker.
#60 TrishfromCanada
What is really discouraging is that the election ins’t determined by the number of votes (or the will of the people) but on money.
#74 Dem4Hillary
Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply it was blogged or anything, I’m thinking it will be shortly, I’ll go over to bo’s harem of fools and idiots and see what they’re saying
i sent letters to Ms Pelosi and Mister Dean often over these past 5 months, all of them asking for some sanity!
this kool-aid, jesus,..where is jim jones when you need him?
the emperor really does not have on any clothes, just for the record… thanks Murphy and every other cool cat here!!!
The fool I am referring to is Pelosi.
Murphy is my hero. ‘Nite everybody.
Well. Pelosi got an email from me today. Guess I’m the ONLY one too email her and she just hasn’t received it yet. Yawnnnnnnnn.
The woman is like bacon grease. What she says stinks and you can’t hold it up to scrutiny without it melting all over and making just another mess.
I’m sorry she is a woman. You would think she would have more integrity, but she is from wealth where everything is ‘such a game!’. To hell with her and all of them. She didn’t answer one question clearly!!
#78 antifish
You, highest ranking female in the house, and she’s not about to lose that title. Should send her a nail file and tell her to file them down before she hurts herself
TrishfromCanada:
I just found it online. It is terrible and I would LOVE to know how much her supporters raise for her between the end of the primaries and this horrible meeting on Thursday. I don’t think he should get all of the credit. We raised a lot of money so far.
#75 Firebelle,
That’s a great letter!
You was supposed to be Yup
#84 Trish. That was so funny. I might just do it!
It is just another ploy to get us converted to the unity train. BO’s campaign will say how they paid off the debt.
Good- let them, let them pay Hillary’s vendors, let them pay whomever they want.
My vote is not for sale. I am giving it to John McCain.
#81 donnas on 06.24.08 at 11:28 pm
Hilarious.
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Not happy about Hillary taking the money, and appearing in “Unity, NH.”
Well, Bill is the real deal Man from Hope, and NH gave us two Comeback Clintons. So the symbolism could be not as bad as it sounds.
Would like to not see them together, but, I won’t ever watch that. Not even to see Hillary.
75 Firebelle Puma on 06.24.08 at 11:26 pm
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Yeah!!! Puuurfect letter! Thanks for standing up for how we believe so eloquently and quickly!! You go
We will stand strong and keep voting for Hillary whenever we get the chance. If not her, then McCain. I’m definitely not voting for the party this year.
#81 donnas
i sent letters to Ms Pelosi and Mister Dean often over these past 5 months, all of them asking for some sanity!
this kool-aid, jesus,..where is jim jones when you need him?
where is jim jones when you need him LOL!!!
a warning next time i was taking a drink… too funny
#75 Firebelle
Wonderful letter, thank you for writing it
hmmmm wonder what Pelosi got as a gift from Obumbus
evening all!
I find it particularly humorous that she claims to have not received emails in opposition. I sent her an email just ahead of the last primaries and told her she should not as she said step in and end this thing immediately after the last primary. I told her the summer was long and she was going to be mighty embarrassed come august if she forced other superdelegates to choose the wrong candidate. Funny, I didn’t get an error sent to my email, so I can’t seem to understand how she could have misplaced my email. Perhaps it was just an oversight, a vista glitch. Hmmm, what to do? I know, lets send lots and lots of letters pumas!
where can you buy PUMA t-shirts?
bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hummmmmmmmmmbuggggggggggggg
had to get that out of my system
Tomorrow’s action has the donkey in the boat with a cute description. be sure to check it out!
Maybe Pelosi is illiterate and if the letters didn’t have pictures on them her staff hid them from her. That’ll be her and bo’s next excuse
96 queen81 on 06.24.08 at 11:36 pm
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Oh yeah. Tomorrow is email Pelosi day! Do it through one of the email addresses above where it has to go through some poor soul. The word will get around. In fact, I’m eamiling mine now so it will be there in the am
Pelosi is taking her que from Obama. She’s pretending we are invisible.
She’s just full of it. I’ve sent her so many emails since the primary began that I can’t even count them. I begged her over and over to speak out about the sexism and misogyny, but i never got an answer. Guess she was too busy to be a leader.
Will do VA PUMA…my little fingers are ready to go!
#99 Taffy
I checked it out, its cute with a bang on saying with it. I’d like to know where the plug is on that bot, let the ass flounder in deep waters for a bit
#95 SANDIPUMA
MAYBE BOTOX INJECTIONS SO SHE CAN BE “FRESH” TOO!
SORRY – COULD NOT RESIST
Night everyone.
tomorrow’s is snail mail. maybe we should put used “fresh” dryer sheets in with the letter. Tell her in p.s. this is how fresh her candidate is.
Tomorrow’s action needs to be changed in light of the Greta interview. We should go after Pelosi and save the cute donkey or whatever for Thursday!
Like the dryer sheet thing. Let’s do it Murphy!
#109 antifish
LOL what’s another day when we’re dealing with a jackass right?
Hi everyone,
I have to go to bed, but I just wanted to check in. I have sent out my growl for today and have tomorrow’s ready to go out in the morning.
I hope we are making a difference, but sometimes when dealing with arrogant idiots like Dean and Pelosi, a person has to wonder if they even read our letters or care.
#103 ANTIFISH AND ALL
IF SHE CAN NOT REMEMBER GETTING EMAILS OF CONCERN MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL RESEND THEM WITH THE NOTE….HEARD YOU DID NOT RECIEVE SO HERE THEY ARE AGAIN….OH YEAH AND BY THE WAY IN CASE YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS EITHER…NOT VOTING FOR YOUR “PICKED PUPPET”
#111 Trish,
So right, after all, an ass is an ass!
#113 1of18MilforHill08
oh i like that and do a cc to Greta, then send a copy to Greta. ok now i’m perking up again
Some interesting news is that the mayor of Baltimore is under investigation for corruption. The search warrants and subpeonas are flying and there is apparently a grand jury. So what? She an Obama super delegate. If there is an indictment, I hope it comes before the convention. Nothing like another indicted or convicted supporter. Heh-heh-heh!
Maybe dryer sheet can be for thursday since it has to go snail mail too. can send to dean as well!
#113 1of18mil!!!!
Yes! That is awesome! Everyone go into your “sent” files tomorrow and send them again! Wow, brilliant!!!
And if you didn’t send her one, please take the liberty to do it tomorrow! Let’s blitz her!
#117 TAFFY
HOW ABOUT CAR AIR FRESHENERS…..LIKE THE STINKY PINE TREE ONES!
#117 Taffy
They’ll both say cool, I can get 10 dryer loads out of one sheet, cost saving measures on behalf of PUMA’S everywhere
I followed up my email to Nancy Pelosi with this email to Bill O’Reilly. I sent copies of both emails to the DNC.
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Dear Bill O’Reilly,
I don’t know how to reach Karl Rove directly, but I want to tell you how much I appreciate his statements on your show tonight regarding Obama’s refusal to debate John McCain. I’d like to see the media beat on that point until Obama is backed into a corner. Voters are entitled to hear the candidates debate the issues. Obama’s refusal to agree to the weekly town hall meetings is a direct and unmistakable snub to voters everywhere.
Below is a copy of something I sent to media outlets last week. Please feel free to use these talking points in future shows. I’ve sent this same message to Obama and the DNC, but my voice has little impact. Yours, however, is far more powerful.
By the way, I’m a member of the newly formed PUMA PAC, and I’m actively working to see Obama defeated. It’s not because I’m angry about the sexism or the disenfranchisement, although those are certainly factors in my decision. Rather, it’s because I believe Obama is a man of very bad character. I believe he’s dangerous for our nation and our world.
Obama’s 20-year association with the hateful, poisonous Reverend Wright scares me. The hatred and violence he inspires in his followers scares me. His tendency to be dismissive of everyone and everything that doesn’t serve his immediate interests scares me.
So although I prefer Obama’s stated positions over McCain’s, I plan to vote for McCain in November if Hillary is not our nominee. It’s not a happy choice, but it’s the only appropriate one. Obama is not a man of his word, so I can’t trust his stated positions to be what he really believes.
Thank you for your consideration.
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What Obama Says to Me
How many times during the primary season did Senator Obama say, “I welcome that debate with John McCain”? So why does he now do everything possible to avoid the weekly town hall meetings Senator McCain keeps asking for?
Here’s what Senator Obama’s actions say to me:
• Senator Obama is not a man of his word.
• Senator Obama does not respect voters who very much want to hear both candidates discuss the issues. Nor does he respect leaders in other countries who also want to hear both candidates discuss the issues.
• Senator Obama is not a man who can or will reach across the aisle as he has repeatedly promised to do. If he intended to reach across the aisle, he’d be doing it now every chance he could.
• Senator Obama is afraid that Senator McCain will expose the lack of substance behind his rhetoric.
• Senator Obama isn’t confident enough about the issues to speak without a teleprompter or the scripted words of his speech writers.
• Senator Obama doesn’t believe in transparency in government.
• If Senator Obama were to become President, he would repeatedly shy away from difficult discussions and uncomfortable topics. So, too, would he avoid talking with other world leaders unless they fall in line behind everything Senator Obama says.
On policy issues, I’m more closely aligned with Democrats than I am with Republicans. But I cannot in good conscience vote for a man of such bad character. In November, I will vote against Senator Obama.
I did not see Pelosi tonight, but if she is saying she has received no e-mails about Obama, she must never read or get a summary of her e-mails. I’m sure I’ve send her several. Some nice, some not so nice. She’s a liar. Very refreshing new kind of politics.
FireBelle that was a great letter. Good job girl
How do you guys send these letters by e-mail without attaching them? I like to put things right in the body of the e-mail, but I can’t do it with these. I have been sending mine by snail mail.
#116 Olive,
Yes, let’s hope all of OB’s superdelegates get indicted before August! That would be awesome!
#122 Olive
You are lucky…but you need to see it to believe it. She said she was “to busy” running her campaign to know anything about how OUR GIRL was being treated…and it gets worse from there.
I did my eamil and started it with:
From: brae4zen@toast.net [brae4zen@toast.net]
Sent: 6/24/2008 11:49:08 PM
To: americanvoices@mail.house.gov [americanvoices@mail.house.gov]
Subject: Great interview
House Speaker Pelosi:
I understand you have not received any emails from people who have been long term Democrats who are furious with the DNC and will not unite
as in “one big happy family”. Please allow me to be the first. Do you realize that the Wright statement “God Damn America” was the
rhetorical relieving of himself on the grave of my Dad, and anyone else that gave their lives for this Country, regardless of sex or skin
color? And you are just glad Obama went to church???
Then I did my thing, but ya’ll have heard it before so won’t boreyou. So, now we know, she has received AT LEAST one email, hehe. Let’s keep count today.
Love the snail mail idea. I had actually written to the campaign and suggested that she get her supporters to write to all SD’s and mail them to Hillary’s campaign so they could send them out on the same day. I was picturing Post Office trucks lining the capitol building and thousands of letters landing on doorsteps. I’m sure the post office deosn’t mind. Their revenue has been declining so this is a boost for them.
Pelosi’s head is just one giant Kool-Aid pitcher.
Wonder what flavor it is.
#125 antifish
“ALL” get indicted before August….heck there isn’t enough court docket time for all that his associations!
the only change bo has shown us is that his logo keeps changing, the man has no identity he can call his own and no ability to stay with his plan, irritates me to no end. i bet his smarmy wife his home licking her chops right now singing “gonna be in the white house kids, daddy done did good, and we can still hate america, momma didn’t lie, no mamma didn’t lie”
suggested used dryer sheets cause don’t want anything she can reuse.
We should all send job apps to Dean for the position of Superdelegate.
There’s a campaign on to pay down The Honorable Senator Clinton’s debt by July 4 – Independence Day in the U.S.
They’re asking, if you can, to contribute $20.08
(2008), of course any amount is greatly appreciated.
Contribution Details
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Amount: $20.08
#124 Karla,
Just copy and paste them. Start at the top left hand corner of the text you want to copy, hold down the left mouse button and drag across and down until all the text you want is highlighted. Let go and click the right mouse button. Select copy. Then go write your email and wherever you want to insert the text, Place your cursor, right click again and select paste. The text will be placed in your email.
Yeah queen81. Qualifications: I have a backbone
Too busy running her campaign? I guess that accounts for her lackluster performance as Speaker too. She’s third in line to succeed the President and does not know what’s going on around her? She must be removed. We don’t have the luxury of having a disconnected dodo running the House.
I’ll have to check out the transcript on Fox later. I’m also going to check on possible side effects associated with Botox injections.
#132 Taffy
sorry, i did know that, i was being odd, was thinking that lot can squeeze blood out of a turnip, they’ll figue how to get freshness from a defunked dryer sheet
Interesting Read…
http://tinyurl.com/4bdvhg
Q&A wrt Hillary’s Debt
#130 1of18mill..,
Yes, but it’s a nice thought.
#133 queen81
We should send lip balm to bo’s supporters with a note
your lips look dry from all that butt kissing
#135 antifish
Thanks, but it won’t let me copy and paste them. They open in Adobe and my computer won’t let me drag to highlight or save or anything. Maybe it is my computer? I will reboot and try again.
#142 KarlaforHillary
highlight one word
right click on the word
choose slect all then copy
karla, do you have a scanner?
#141 Trish
I love it!
hers are snail mail trish
Well I am out of here…..the Pelosi thing has got me thinking and I need to go file my paws and compose my letter to her…I think I will send it by email and snail mail and get a delivery confirmation of my snail mail….if she still says she did not get it – I send her a copy of the delivery confirmation! hehehaha
Good Night Fellow Puma
#129 pumaindy,
Berry Stoopid!
then send copy of dc to greta lol
#135 antifish
Ok, now I was able to copy it, but when I placed it in my e-mail all of the formatting including pictures and paragraphs was gone.
Night all.
Be wonderful to each other.
tomorrow is another day!
that was me.
#144 Taffy,
Yes, I have a scanner. Boy that was stupid on my part. I didn’t even think to do that. Thanks.
#133 Queen,
Or better yet, for the position of Democratic Nominee. We can each state what makes us more qualified that BO to be president! That would make a great daily growl!
night Murphy, good luck tomorrow
Night. Have to go to my own dreams this is a nightmare!!
thanks trish!
Murphy… go get some sleep!
night VA
#154 Antifish,
What a fantastic idea!
Good night, Pumas!
#121 Firebelle,
Great letter.
hey there Brooklyn NY
night antifish!
#160 queen,
I caught that before I signed off. I think so too! I’m sure many of us can explain why we are much better suited to be the Democratic nominee than Barack. It would make for a really good daily growl. Oh well, we can talk about it tomorrow.
night queen!
night antifish if you’re headed to bed
163 TrishfromCanada
Hey Trish, How you doin’ (I can say that, I’m from Brooklyn
Right now I’m in The Great White North – your neck of the woods.
night Trish. I am. I want to catch Murphy tomorrow morning. You all have fun!
where are you?
taffy,
are you still here
La Belle Province, Montreal
Hi everyone,
I will call first thing in the morning about the flowers. There is one state left, Wyoming. Is there anyone who wants to adopt it?
Oh, goodness. I just read all your posts about Peloser. Is that woman for real? She was so busy she didn’t notice or hear Hillary and the women base getting slapped with hateful sexist remarks? Was she asleep or too busy vying for a VP spot on O-flipper’s list too?
still here
was trying to think of what we could write on dryer sheets
#172 BrooklynNY
i love monteal and quebec city
This is why Pelosi didn’t see any letters
http://mooreslore.corante.com/archives/images/Ostrich.jpg
good one trish…should add to all emails lol
taffy,
it seems like somewhere i saw that you said you had signed up for two states but i just have you down for one. is that right?
I just sent pelosi a letter too
i had originally said i’d do indiana as well but i think prpl took that over since she lives there. not sure. never heard back.
trish..we good at this. what for dryer sheet? “Sorry but the freshness is gone”?
I sent the band-aid letter, but the play nice letter is a little much for me…at least tonight.
TrishfromCanada: thanks for the laugh!
“This is as fresh as your guy will ever be”?
#177
LOL, that’s what she does day to day as speaker of the house.
Defending Obama on Rev. Wright, Pelosi says she has disagreements with her pastors
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said she has disagreed with her pastors, dismissing claims that Americans will hold the controversial sermons of Rev. Jeremiah Wright against Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).
During an interview with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News that aired Tuesday night, Pelosi strongly defended Obama when pressed on the effect Wright will have on the presidential election.
“Look, I am just glad [Obama] went to church,” Pelosi said.
“Please turn over” then on other side “Please turn over”
#184 Taffy
lol i love it
hi everyone! i just joined – have been looking for you online, but couldn’t find you. i saw the piece about puma on tv and was so excited! got my bandaids ready, printed out the form for pelosi and comward dean and i’m ready to go!
I could use some good news right about now.
Not looking forward to Unity…
Ok i need to see this Pelosi interview…just got home from work:( what channel and with who?
oops – COWARD dean
hey pumaindy…what part of indy r u from?
#186 Taffy
that would be so good, she’d never move again she’d be turning over that sheet for life
“genuine souvenior (sp) from 1976 Democratic Convention” (year of Jimmy Carter)
Gee, I don’t know how he managed that. When I had a disagreement with the scripture interpretations of a local rabbi, I stopped going to synagogue until I could go to a different one with a more enlightened rabbi. I couldn’t sit in a congregation and pretend I supported something I didn’t support. I see no reason Mr. Nobama couldn’t do something similar.
Ario
Pelosi on Fox with Greta.
I am actually from the west coast. indy was referring to the fact that I have been a registered Independent for many years now. But until Nov 2008 I have always voted Democrat. Unless Hillary is our girl, I will be voting Republican for the first time in my life
191 trish send one to bo too
great laugh!
#192 Taffy
lol, or … this was once bo’s hanky, savour the flavour Pelosi
wontbackdown – you here? You need to teach me how to hunt. I’m pathetic.
This is the only place I blog. I’m so naive.
PA I go to a Catholic church and so far in the last 10 years we have switched 3 times because we disagree with new priest who has come in. I won’t sit through someone I disagree strongly with either.
I’ve given up on the Democratic Party. There is no excuse for Pelosi’s actions. There is no excuse for Obama’s pastor. Pelosi and Co. aren’t going to “come around.” There is no winning back the Democratic Party in its present configuration. The corruption is so pervasive, it’s going to take longer than this election or the Convention to clean it up.
A friend brought me a Mallard Fillmore (artist Bruce Tinsley) cartoon strip today. I’m not familiar with the cartoon strip, but the message is clear enough …
A couple are assessing cereal choices in the grocery store. One box says, “Fruit ‘N Fiber.” The next says, “Nuts ‘N Honey.” A third says, “Hope ‘N Change.”
The couple are looking at the last box, and the man says to his wife, “Who’s got time to read the ingredients? Let’s just buy it.”
Trish “fresh from bo’s back pocket”
ahh cool…i get it:) well im republican and have a new respect for hillary and a total disdain for obama…if that makes sense…
you can send the DNC a jiffy cloth and tell them to clean up the dirty Democratic Party.
#200 Firebelle Puma
LOL and no doubt it’ll just give them indigestion
Taffy: So, from a Christian perspective, is it better to go to a church you oppose or not go to church at all? Just curious.
Now Firebelle we need to see if we could get permission to copy that. It would be great to put on posters!!
Even if by some divine act of grace, Hillary is the nominee, she still has to work within that corrupt framework and that scares me. I’m done expecting anything from the Dems. None of them stopped Obama and the view that might have objected weren’t strong enough to prevail. Does not inspire my confidence one bit. The stakes are too high to let party loyalty in any form figure in to the equation. At this point in our history, it really is a matter of Country Over Party. All the other issues pale in comparison.
#201 Taffy
Lol
or
Fresh from bo’s speedo’s to your hands
lol i am laughing so hard i can’t type
Ario – total sense.
I actually like McCain because (1) he and Hillary are friends, (2) he loves our country, (3) he seems like a decent man.
I know that he is to center for Republicans in general, but I think that this is what is so appealing about him to many.
I am beginning to have alot of new respect for Republicans.
I would not go although that is against catholic doctrine. to me God is everywhere, not hidden inside a building.
Then there will be no choice but for everyone to vote for Mccain. No one to blame but theirselves.
#175 Taffy what about on the dryer sheets “not only do they soften but they remove bad the stink”
#200 Firebelle Puma
LOL. That’s priceless.
#203 sandipuma
Impossible. Can’t be cleaned. It’s a total gut.
Another piece of garbage coming out of Peloser’s mouth.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says —”I’m a victim of sexism myself all the time.”
June 24, 2008
WASHINGTON—”I’m a victim of sexism myself all the time,” said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) …But Pelosi does not spend a lot of time worrying about sexist remarks people make.
What an enabler! It’s okay to be called nasty vile names and have others question our ability to function because of hot flashes ladies, just shake it off like Nancy.
I would love it if Hillary became the nominee and Bill was her VP ok that can only happen in my dreams, but i’ll be smiling as i sleep
sorry I meant to say they remove the stink
trish glad I wasn’t drinking anything lol
Frankly, I’d prefer ipecac to kool-aid. At least I’d know what I was ingesting.
#207 BrooklynNY
Remember “Recount” and the line “It’s time to quit if you can’t win even if you win”.
I have been thinking off and on along these lines also.
Taffy: Heh, just as I thought. Pelosi makes no sense.
Trish: speedos? *cringe*
pumaindy: I know what you mean. I actually sympathized with some of my friends who normally vote republican. They’re a little worried that we aren’t frightened enough of McCain.
Good evening all, I just got throught fast reading the posts for the day. My goodness you all were busy. Murphy, I am so proud of you. I will set by alarm. I guess all of us sending the video of you to Fox last night might have worked. I got 6 read replays from Fox and 1 from CNN
sandi…could send used torn one and say “sorry, we tried to clean up the DNC but it didn’t work”
**News Update**
OBAMA LOW BALLS CLINTON’S DEBT RELIEF
http://WWW.OBAMA-WIRE.COM
taffy,
i’m sorry to interrupt your fun again. lol. i never heard from pplvette. i did not have you down for indiana but i also don’t seem to have anyone down. if you want to do it go ahead and if not don’t worry about it. we also don’t have wyoming so it wouldn’t be the only one. thanks.
Sadly, I’m already headed to work when Murphy has the spotlight tomorrow morning
Firebelle: Ipecac! Perfect! We should totally have that as a slogan. “Here’s some ipecac to cure you of kool-aid poisoning.”
#209 pumaindy
I feel the same way about McCain. I’m supporting him with a totally clear conscience, not one shred of difficulty, not as a “protest vote,” but because I think he is head and shoulders better for this country than any of the alternatives. Given the present state of the Democratic Party even if Hillary gets the nomination, I still feel very nervous about our future because the Democratic Party is backing someone who really seems a threat to America. To me the only way she can be effective in holding back the onslaught of some devious scenario in the works is to band with moderates of BOTH parties. Again, Country Before Party.
sheila7,
I never received any email from anyone needing any money for the AZ flowers but I can give a little if we need some toward another state. email me and let me know. Any by the way a huge round of applause to you for heading this up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well this is straight from a black 35 gop man….who’s father is also a minister…the minute rev wright came out…i turned 100% against obama….i refuse to support poverty pimps no matter how great they are at speeches. it p%$##@ me off knowing this guy just set back blacks by decades…could you imagine having this discussion if colin powell was running?
Well all have a good night. I need to rest now. (((((((PUMAS))))))))
And watch out what you touch with his speedos Trish
#224 obamawire
the article link is not working
#232 sandipuma
good lord if I had his speedos i’d mail them to Michelle after I spray them in perfume and tell her, they don’t call him barky for nuthin
lol ok now i’m cracking up again
I think it is smart of Hillary to demand that the BO supporters are ask to pay her debt. I doubt that she is going to do much for BO although she needs to appear to be helping. Notice she was 45 minutes late for her end of campaign speech leaving the TV channels on the air talking about her for an extra 45 mins. Remember Bill Clinton said he would help Kerry but of course his open heart surgery kept that from happening. Bill thrives on attention and I have seen many recovering heart patients most of whom can do pretty much what ever they really want to after 3 weeks at least for short periods. So if Bill didn’t give speeches for Kerry it is because he didn’t want to. I bet Hillary will be really busy, for the party of course, back in the Senate and not be very available to campaign for BO. Besides having her out there with BO will piss off the BObamites and will make no difference to us. I think the BO people really need to have Hillary as a nemesis, they have been off their game since she went out of view. I actually think it will be funny to watch them seethe when she reappears taking the spot light off BO and they can’t savage her for sexist sport.
I will be donating to puma…right after the car payment…but I dont think I should start sending letters…it might no do this site a good deal to have a loud mouth gop sending out shots:(
#233 TrishfromCanada
Give it another shot. I fixed the issue.
http://www.obama-wire.com
be sure to put them in a plastic bag lol
#235 Seattlegirl
I’m hoping your right. I have a feeling Bill can actually do more harm to Obama than help if he campaigns for him, maybe alienate Obama’s core supporters? And Hillary is so despised by the Obama-ites I don’t know how they’ll handle seeing their idol campaigning with her. Might cause a mental melt-down, fry their bot brains. Too much cognitive dissonance for them to handle.
If you have not listened to the Qadhafi YouTube yet, it is worth a look. #645 downstairs by ladyhawkke.
Why is this guy (BO) still even in the race? His resume should be shredded and he should be kicked out the door with parting words “Thanks, but no thanks. You aren’t qualified and we don’t hire thieves, liars, or people of low moral character.”
#236 Ario
You shouldn’t hesitate to write letters because you are a republican. No one even has to know. Simply present your case for why you believe McCain is a better choice or why Obama would be bad for our country. It has nothing to do with what party you belong to. You’re a voter, just like the rest of us.
ario that is the whole point. we need people to see we are serious about mccain. everybody is banding together. we’ve had several republicans who have said they would have voted for Hillary. That’s actually a much stronger statement than a dem saying it. they think we would have just voted along party lines. bo has put out that hillary only won a lot of places because repubs were trying to get her as nominee since she would be an easy target. They don’t think repubs would have actually supported her. So YES…we need your voice!!!!!!
DNA testing, to see if he is human?
tusconpuma,
she tried to e-mail you and so did i and it came back undeliverable. can you e-mail me again and i’ll see if we have the wrong email address. sheila7puma@gmail.com. thanks.
no he is not human he is a turtle
sheila i can still do indiana. mad at wyoming for going with “him” mad at my own state too! I’d take indiana over it if i could
#236 Ario
Write away if you want to. You don’t need to identify yourself as anything other than a PUMA. No one here cares I’m sure and puffing up our numbers can’t hurt.
#236 Ario
It isn’t only a matter of party. Doesn’t matter if you’re a Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever, You are an American first and this guy is not fit to hold that office. Could he even get security clearance to be a messenger in any high security government agency, with his history and list of questionable friends and associates?
Bo’s gonna need a bigger oval table by the time he brings dirty deed friends and kenyan family and hawaiin family over for thanksgiving dinner and Michelle invites her ma and pa and bro
Trish OMG – LOL
I think you are on to something.
He probably won’t disclose that either – privacy issues and all…
#245 Pookie
I sent a cartoon idea in thi morning, a ninja turtle with bo’s seal on its chest and the title as self-anointed one
ok ok guys…i just needed the reasurrance! thanks!!!!!
ok greta is on…i cant wait to see pelosi dodge and weave
Don’t forget to put the turtle on top of a fence post.
#243 TrishfromCanada
LOL. While we’re at it, how ’bout an MRI just to make sure there’s actually flesh and blood in his brain, not mechanical parts and an invisible teleprompter screen, programmed with words “hope” and “change” and adjusted to run on an infinite loop.
sheila7 email sent to you thanks
#253 Ario
shhhhhhhhhh don’t say weave, you’ll be called racist
bo doesn’t need reassurance…neither do you!!! You’re probably 10 tens the man he is!!
I sent Marsha an email asking for the snail mail address so I could send PUMA a check. Haven’t heard back.
I like the motto “Country Before Party.”
I ordered twenty wristbands for my family and friends from: http://goodsforgiving.com/w-ds.html
The cost including shipping was $42.99. I ordered in light blue medium size with the words “ONE OF 18 MILLION”.
I can’t wait until they arrive. They have been shipped.
lololol!!!!!
and im black so thats even weirder!!!!
#255 BrooklynNY
lol
CAT scan would just show a basketball for a brain
Pelosi’s little beady eyes and puckered mouth she looks like a ant eater – Oh am I bad?
trish we back on cartoons? need a guy (or gal) looking in pocket at grocery store and saying “I hope there is change!”
#259 taylorgrob
who’s Marsha?
Ario – you are taking it much better than everyone else who watched. I don’t watch any TV news. I get all my info from this blog, and even that’s too much at times.
taffy,
that would be great for indiana. thank you very much.
#264 Taffy
i like that, want me to submit it?
Ditto to #207 Brooklyn NY
I agree that the DP is part of the problem. They are delusional, if they believe Hillary’s supporters will endorse *61. If you follow the money with *61, he has many skeletons in his closet. We have charitable funds being directed to ACORN when *61 sat on these boards.
ACORN is a radical group that he is connected with. More importantly, they have provided campaign volunteers for him. We have his mentor Emil Jones Jr. placing *61′s name as a co-sponsor on the Illinois bills. In return, *61 earmarks tens of million of dollars in pet projects for this man’s district.
We have bundlers from top financial firms donating to his campaign. The corruption taking place is huge. This is why *61′s idea to forgo public financing in the GE is a red flag.
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/06/obama_asks_donors_to_raise_mon.html
TIME ARTICLE IN CONJUNCTION WITH CNN:
Post yesterday about Obama asking his financial backers to donate to retire Clinton’s vendor debt.
Here was one response:
I don’t have much of a problem with this.
But I’m going to have a HUGE problem with the PUMAs and Harriet Christians of the world now. How exactly they’ll manage to spin the fact Obama is still somehow “being mean” to Hillary despite agreeing to pay $10 million back to her that she misspent, is going to be trying.
Maybe they won’t. Maybe for once they’ll just say thank you, Senator Obama has done the chivalrous and generous (if not necessarily right) thing. My guess is: they still eviscerate him for no reason whatsoever. Other than running against Hillary. And all of this will be while he helps her find $10 million he could desperately use himself. Sigh.
Posted by stringer | June 24, 2008 11:30 PM
Ario: No, if Colin Powell was running, we would definitely not be having this discussion. He would be a worthy candidate for the “first African American president”.
Honestly, I don’t mind having republicans here…they’ve been MUCH nicer than the kool-aid drinkers, even after the so-called “unity”. I certainly haven’t heard of *61 supporters having been threatened the way Clinton and McCain supporters have been.
#242 Taffy
That’s true. I have a Republican friend and every election for the past decade or so we’ve debated D vs R. Never in a million years would she have voted D, or I voted R. This year our discussion lasted all of 10 minutes. We both despised O. She said she could easily vote for Hil. I said I would vote for McCain if Hil isn’t in. End of discussion. This has NEVER happened before! We were both stunned. Made for pretty boring pre-election debates between us.
#262 TrishfromCanada
I’ve yet to meet a basketball I didn’t like. Or that wasn’t a heck of a lot smarter than Obama.
go for it trish. can’t hurt
I don’t know who this quote is by but it is good for these times: ” Sometimes I wonder if our country is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it”
Here is the good news. I will get the opportunity to vote against Pelosi. Cindy Sheehan all the way!!!! I will take a moment and think of all of you when I put my” x “next to Cindy’s name in the honor of all Pumas. Good riddance Nancy.
I agree PA. If colin powell was on ticket dems would be out of it. i have a problem with condi rice simply because she is so associated with bush. not sure she could switch strategies.
#265 – i meant murphy not marsha (I have a friend named marsha murphy) Senior moment. The email seemed to have gone through to murphy–i’ll just wait until I hear back.
Hey you guys, I thought we weren’t supposed to be mean. You are totally disrespecting all of those innocent basketballs out there. Before you know it they’ll be rioting, making nasty phone calls, threatening our lives, etc. I don’t think I can outrun a basketball. Yuk Yuk Yuk.
#273 Firebelle Puma
we should have left that basketball on the shipwrecked island
shorttermer they’re not looking at the fact that it’s a trade. both candidates donors are maxed. Hillary stashed in her GE fund and bo spent on primaries. So Hillary out of money now and bo in future. so they trade dollar for dollar. bo gets 10 mil in his fund, hillary gets 10 mil in hers. hillary comes out better but don’t tell. all debts paid and still with ge fund in case. bo still spending and no where to go after this for his GE fund unless former hillary supporters “fall in line”
will do in the morning and i’ll make sure you get the credit for it
273 firebelle you sure have a way with words lol
#709 LilyMaid (from the previous thread)
Thank you for your comments. I wanted to try and not post anything until tomorrow morning, but I can’t hold this anymore. Just wanted to let you know that Denver Group Pac is now up and running. I emailed Mr. Bower (he’ll be on Fox News tomorrow) to see if he’ll want to mention it.
MillionWomenMarch has just added a Michigan state meeting. YES!!! I am so excited. PLEASE TELL AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN ABOUT SIGNING UP TO HOLD STATE MEETING. WE NEED MULTIPLE MEETINGS IN ALL OF THE STATES!!! WE GET TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT WHAT TO DO IN DENVER AT THOSE MEETINGS. PLEASE LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT IT!!! The link to sign up is:
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Thanks again
Obama Offers Change Kim Jong-Il Can Believe In…
http://WWW.OBAMA-WIRE.COM
I read a article today that said: Little was mentioned outside the blogs when Obama said that he has traveled all 57 states and when arguing that our military’s Arabic translators are needed in Afghanistan, he did not know that Afghans do not speak Arabic.George Bush would have been crucified for such an error.
Greenfun
When will Pelosi be on the ballot?
Don’t underestimate BO’s dirty politics. Something tells me $$ will be available to him, not necessarily in legitimate ways. Once again, Qadhafi YouTube hints that he has had contributions from foreign entities. Though his flip flops are apparently worrying them also.
pumaindy that great lol
#279 Pumaindy
What a crack-up.
Forgive me for even admitting that I have something in common with Obama, but I love basketball. I used to be a referee until I trashed my feet by playing and officiating so much.
Too bad politics isn’t like playing basketball. If it were, Obama would have been ejected from the game for unsportsmanlike conduct.
If politics were like basketball, Obama would rack up technical fouls so fast that the scorekeepers wouldn’t be able to keep up.
If politics were like basketball, Hillary would win on free throws alone, because Obama would keep sending her to the free throw line.
#286 Pookie
Yes – the 57 states worries me. It is not a gaffe. Rather, it is a Freudian slip. No one can convince me otherwise. BO is out to add the 58th state (USA) – after he destroys it first of course.
Good nite all
true pookie MSM didn’t report much typical but plenty was said on blogs!!!!
#290 Firebelle
You are assuming a fair game with referees who have not been bought off. Sad commentary – the state we’re in.
nite pookie
puma i havent seen he interview yet…oh here it is brb!
I just finished reading a (very long) article … you’ve got to check it out … it’s amazing HRC got as far as she did in this despicable race … unbelievable info … pumapac is credited … please read to the end!
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html
By the way, it’s true: “The Obama campaign immediately assumed control over the party apparatus and treasury, and much to the chagrin of Clinton activists and donors, her internet contact lists have now become the property of her rival.”
puma it’s a known fact that he got money from overseas. the london papers were full of the fact that some guy from there sent a bunch before either he was kicked out of country or went to jail. That was last winter so i’d have to go back and dig it up. English have an unspoken rule to not get involved in other countries elections so it was a big deal. crooked guy sending money from uk
#297 Cat in NJ
If there are not laws against this there should be. If that evil thing gets in office, who do you think he is going to go after first?
#294 Pumaindy
Alas, you speak the truth.
But there was something else I learned as a referee. When people pay to see a basketball game, part of the price of admission is the right to “boo the refs.”
We “bought our tickets” when we registered to vote. So let’s all “boo the refs.”
plus puma i’ve never gotten an answer to why he keeps saying bo for america instead of for president of us. that slipped in sometime around may. he RARELY says united states anymore. it’s always america very telling and frightening
#299 Answer: You and me and every other Hillary supporter. Our choices might be leave the country (on the run) or go to jail. And if we aren’t careful, lose our lives.
Firebelle. With you 100%
BOooooooooooooooooooo. I’m definitely a disgruntled fan.
#301 Taffy
He can’t say United States any more. He has divided it. Plus, he thinks of it as one big entity – #58.
You all totally amaze me. I am sitting here trying to work and can not keep my eyes off this screen. i wish i had the time to really do the work you all do, but i mailed flip flops today and sent emails and read what you all wrote and know that some how we will all make this work. There is one thing i am sure of, that most of us out there are women, because you all are doing many things at once taking care of your family, your homes, jobs and working this site. That is why we all know that Hillary would be the best candidate. She too knows how to multi task and get things done the right way, the honest way.
Hillary has asked us to help pay the debt.
I had a big “ah ha” tonight. It’s about the money. Our efforts are admirable, but its about the money.
If Hillary’s supporters can not manage to pay off about 12 million when Obama has hundreds of millions at his disposal…then all our talk doesn’t mean much.
She is doing what she has to do to get this paid by August.
The debt has to be paid before there is any hope of turning this around.
#306 alohapuma
Exactly right. I have been “screaming” about this for a day or two now.
It IS all about the $$. I have been blogging that I think that the Clinton’s strategy might be very different if the debt was addressed and taken care of.
1 million people donating $20.08 each takes care of the debt. I have been contributing as I can and recently incurred $100 debt of my own to contribute towards hers. I will probably increase my debt a little more on 07/04/2008.
How do we get 1 million people to make that gesture? I know that $20 is alot for people. I would be willing to cover up to 4 people in addition to myself.
I really want to see her debt gone so that she is free to act. She keeps asking….
and we better take a gun with us! cause he have all the rest! i’m gonna go find trish can say that cause i think she gone. we all invite ourselves to her place til we dead! lol (I think
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#286 Pookie on 06.25.08 at 1:23 am
Why don’t they send out John Kerry and his merry band of hypos (as in hypocrites) to make not-so-veiled allusions to Obama going senile and losing his marbles. They did it to McCain. Again, what’s good for the goose is not good for the gander? I’m so sick of the hypocrisy.
There is an initiative by another Hillary site that wants everyone to contribute on 07/04/2008. I’m in for that. Now we just need 999,999 others and we’re set.
got a new link earier tonight. there is a group forming that contains some of the same members who swift boated kerry. they are re-forming to swift boat bo
well it’s nite nite for me. have to be able to get up in time to get instructions from sheila if we do flowers. gonna be early here!
taffy,
i’m on central time so it won’t be terribly early.
ok she is spouting some serious bs!
1. she changed subject when asked about the women who are pissed with obama and tried to make mccain look evil HELLO!
wasnt it just 36 months ago that her party was begging mccain to be Kerry’s VP? Hello?
2. is she stupid? does she think we are stupid? or what? obama isnt new to dc or politics and there is nothing fresh about his outlook!
3. it really pisses me off when they say ..”the people have spoken!” umm who are these people and if thats the case why did Hillary have a choke hold on him till the bitter end and he is neck in neck woth mccain?
sorry guys …my tolerance for buffonery is at an all time low…i need another beer!
oh my gosh you guys! i just watched the pelosi interview and now i know why everyone was so upset. my heart was actually racing i was getting so angry. she’s got a lot of nerve. i’m so mad i can’t even see straight.
ario,
i need about ten beers. i thought greta did a good job though. i’m just glad he went to church-what?!!!!
when she said it didn’t matter to the voters in ms and la i wish greta would have said well it mattered to ky,wv,in,pr. hello!!!!!
I am going to say good night all and going downstairs to catch some of the news. Want to get up at 3 to watch Murphy. Take care and be safe
I’m glad I didn’t watch. I’m irate enough just listening to you guys speak about it. What a witch – and I am being extremely generous.
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!! ok, sheila breathe deep.
Congrats to Murphy for recognition for her efforts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaVL7lxo_Ng
Has Flineo been approached to create any TV commercials by the GOP? He (or she) is a brilliant artist with an impressive portfolio of anti-Obama videos.
Besides, the people DID speak. 18 million of them. And they are being dismissed outright. When I was still watching the TV, the mantra was “they (SDs) can’t overturn the will of the people”. I am LMAO now about that one. Boy did they underestimate our girl.
she is glad he went to chuch…yikes…good lord!
Today I sent a bandaid email to Pelosi & collected old flip flops from my husband (really big, old, nasty ones) for Howard Dean (who already received one of my old bras), made a small contribution to help HRC retire her debt (sorry, forgot to do it through this site), and continued to argue with Wikipedia that Puma Pac is Wikiworthy.
Then over dinner my husband & I discussed the merits of a lawsuit against a church on the grounds that its internal politics caused the suitor pain and suffering. His take: “You could sue Obama! He’s been causing you pain and suffering for months!” Hmmm, do the brilliant minds of Puma Pac see an action idea there?
pumaindy,
i go back and forth on watching things. i can’t stand to see it but i feel the need to watch for myself. i only watch certain people and greta is one of them. she broughtup alot of our issues so i was glad for that. of course she was dismissed. welcome to the club greta. pelosi actually asked her why we were mad? just because hillary lost? she didn’t lose!!!!
#319 Pumaindy
Generous to whom? I think you just insulted all the witches out there.
On the other hand, I’m having visions of how easily Dorothy dispatched a couple of witches in “The Wizard of Oz.” Maybe we should send Hillary a few water buckets tomorrow.
#324 that is funny. i think others sent nasty flip flops too.
#326 firebelle, that is a good idea about the water buckets. that woman is unbelievable, it is obvious that she just couldn’t stand the thought of Hillary being more powerful than her. i’ve got news for you nancy, you could never come close to Hillary no matter what.
BO is trying to divide the nation. Seems to me that with the exception of the BObots and those he bought he is uniting the rest of us – against him. Hope he underestimates us also.
In all of this, the silver lining to me is that I feel proud to be part of such a diverse coalition. Dems, Repubs, Indys, etc., male, female, rich, poor, middle class, white collar, blue collar, young, old, middle aged, white, black, yellow, brown, green, purple, etc. When we decide to stand as one, we are going to kick his shiny little arse out of this country. I want to see him running with his tail between his legs.
Don’t mess with PUMAs.
Pelosi and the DNC think their rank-and-file loyal Dems are idiots. Do they really think we’re all that stupid we’d fall for their bs? If I wanted that kind of party I’d have voted for Bush in ’00. At least Repubs have more respect for their people. They don’t take them to be mindless idiots. They may have played dirty in past elections but they never tried to pull a fast one on their own. If you can’t trust the party to be honest with their own loyal supporters, imagine what they’ll do when the have the whole country by the short hairs. I can’t even begin to describe how infuriated I was when I got Dean’s DNC survey after Hillary’s June 7 speech when he lied in the survey about McCain’s positions and made it clear that’s what the brain-dead Dem leadership planned on using to beat McCain. Give me a break! At least present your opponent’s positions honestly. If you have to lie about his positions to beat him, something is very, very wrong.
pumaindy,
i am proud too. one good thing, i’m glad to be freed from the democratic party. i will never be a part of it again. country first. i will always vote for the person from here on out.
i agree brooklyn ny. something is very, very wrong and i hope people wake up soon.
#326 Firebelle
Ouch – you got me there. Mean to witches. How dare I? that’s worse than being mean to those poor little basketballs.
I totally agree/…. this time last year Hillary was wonderful and Bill was the first black president and Mccain was a wonderful maverick….now all have been thrown under the bus without a blink of the eye…and for who? an empty suit with no chance of winning…its crazy!
331 sheila7
Same here. Always country first for me. Never again will I trust the Democratic Party.
#326 Firebelle PUMA
Thank you for your sense of humor. You are hysterical.
PELOSI NEEDS TO BE VOTED OUT!!!! I WILL NOT DO what many in the Democratic party keep saying they will do, voting McCain for President but everything else Democrat. NOT THIS GIRL HERE! I’m voting McCain for President BUT WILL CLOSELY EXAMINE EVERY DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT BEFORE I CAST MY VOTE, BEGINNING WITH MRS. PELOSI!!!! If there’s anything I have learned with this travesty of an election is to remain a free thinker and NOT to vote for someone on the ballot just because they claim to be Democrats! Let’s face it, the good old Democratic party is no more. I DO NOT KNOW this “new” party. One thing is for sure, whatever “the new coalision” is, I’m not part of it!
#334 Ario
What scares me is that he is so sure he IS going to win.
What also scares me is that unless some extraordinary event occurs that deflects everyone’s attentions away from who is the next POTUS or something happens to unequivocally disqualify BO, then I think that there is 100% chance that we are in for a bumpy ride.
I am trying to figure out how we don’t end up with a big mess in November, regardless of the outcome.
No matter what the Dems promise, they never deliver. Pelosi took over leadership in the house as first woman speaker and in 2 years did absolutely ZILCH! Still waiting for all those wonderful things she was supposed to accomplish in the 1st 100 days. She was so busy having a pissing contest for power within the Dem. party, she squandered a phenomenal opportunity to reverse position on Iraq, which was the main reason Dems made such inroads in Congress. It never was about the country, the war, the people. It was about Nancy Pelosi and the DNC getting control of Congress. Why? To protect all those corrupt politicians from being exposed in their little sweetheart deals? Then using the power to instigate or hold back investigations into their little dirty games to “persuade” them to go along to get along, no matter how threatening to the security of the country that could be? Nope. No more Dems for me.
# 230 Avio
“it p%$##@ me off knowing this guy just set back blacks by decades…”
I’ve heard that sentiment before, although one poster said it (Obama) “has set race relations back 200 years.” Most of us in the general population know that people of color, women, old / young, leftists, righties, Christians / Buddhists, aren’t monolithic entities, that ultimately we are individuals.
I’m not at all denying that there are far too many racists in the U.S., or that institutionalized racism exists. I think distinctions should be made that there are those who are immersed in, and cultivate their racist views, while others have, and continue to consciously work through racist thoughts if /when they are confronted with them, whether from within, or from without. There’s also another group who don’t realize they are racist, they sincerely mean no harm, and just seriously aren’t aware of their racism or the effect they have on others, and often they don’t get it even when one points out and explains what it is that was said or done that makes it racist.
If Obama has done anything, he has added fuel to the existing fires of the first group, stung the second group by calling them racists, but their position of abhorance of racism will continue, in spite of him. It seems to me that the third group is the most vulnerable to persuasion. In that case, race relations ay have been set back.
There was a recent piece in mainstream media whose premise it was that racism is deeper and sexism is broader. I didn’t read the entire article. I don’t usually care much for those comparisons (competitions).
The bottom line is: a rising tide lifts all boats.
Hope this makes sense. I had surgery a few weeks ago and I’m still taking meds for the pain, so I’m not clear as to whether or not I’m making myself clear.
hey PUMAs
checkin in here…. been over at the McCain site, the clintons4mccain site and taking a looksie at various other JustSayNoDeal sites. sooooooo much to read. i’ve also been watching quite a bit of CSPAN and getting a comprehensive understanding of the whole drilling and energy debate. First of all, I have to point out to you guys that nObama has been up to his old tricks, attempting to portray himself as the only candidate calling for tougher restrictions on Oil Speculators. McCain has voiced the same position. Even today, I saw Dem Senator Barbara Boxer of California in the senate chamber saying McCain has been silent on the topic of tougher restrictions on speculators. she said “where has Senator McCain been on this? he’s been pretty quiet. i haven’t heard anything from him!” well well well, let me tell you PUMAs….i didn’t waste one minute before emailing Ms Boxer and referring her this link with Senator McCains speech from last Tues on the whole subject of Oil Speculators: http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/Speeches/Read.aspx?guid=d3ee7e45-7043-4623-ab99-ffbdeb7a431d
anyway PUMAs beware: nObama is going about his same tactics of LYING about his opponent. the McCain supporters are seeing it as nObama taking credit for McCain’s ideas. Gee, that sounds verrrrrry familiar (remember nObama copying Hillary’s Hurrincan Katrina Relief Plan?)
I agree with Brooklyn….. take a closer look @ mccain
i made up my mind a long time ago. i’m putting country before party. the democratic party is sucking up to an inexperienced highly questionable unscrupulous race-baiting FASCIST! ……
i’m going to go give greta some puma love, she deserves it.
#332 sheila7
Ban Kool-aid. How long before Kool-aid addicts are out of withdrawal?
PUMAs ! ! did you hear this??
Today David Axerod has put out a List of 28 “code words” that will not be tolerated, that the nObama camp will label as racist or playing on people’s racial sentiments, that they feel is inappropriate or misleading. Here is the list of words considered off-limits:
Liberal, Socialist, Communist, Marxist, Collectivist, Naive, Inexperienced, Corrupt, Pretentious, Foolish, Weak, Appeasement, Gun Control, Rhetoric, Scandal, Preconditions, Raising taxes, Michelle Obama, Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Jimmy Carter, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Hamas, Flag Pin, Flip-Flop and 527
#333 Pumaindy
You’re forgiven. Even the good witches know there are bad witches in our midst.
And just for fun, I emailed Pelosi, Dean, and Brazile a little postcard with a basketball graphic. The text say, “If politics were like basketball, Obama would have fouled out for unsportsmanlike conduct. Too bad the refs (i.e., DNC) are too chicken to call Obama’s fouls.”
When citizens throughout the United States go to the polls on November 4, 2008, they will be voting not only for president but also for all 435 members of the House of Representatives and for one-third of the United States Senate. Attention will be focused on the presidential election, but the congressional elections are equally important.
Let’s get rid of Nancy.
native…r u serious?
I might take Dems who align themselves up with honorable Independents/Republicans and who prove beyond doubt they put country before party, but no more faith-based support for Dems. They can’t be trusted. They need to prove they’re independent-minded, honorable and not vulnerable to political blackmail, financial manipulation and control and that they believe in democratic principles. So far, they’re not doing too well on any of those counts.
#341 Nativeflower,
Same here. I think the best way to defeat no name in November is to vote McCain. We won’t win this battle by staying home or voting for another candidate. I just don’t see how.
#341 NativeFlower
You do us proud. THANK YOU for your efforts. Great work.
346 greenfun
Absolutely, let’s get rid of Nancy. And let’s send her off along with Dean, Harry Reid, John Kerry and all the other pathetic anti-Democrats.
#344 NativeFlower
Do you have a credible source for that list?
Thank you in advance.
ario,
i agree about the race relations. when this all happened with wright, i thought oh my gosh i didn’t realize african americans were so angry at whites. i thought we had come so far from that and i still believe that most black people don’t feel that way but i think if someone was leaning that way it incited them and then all the race baiting from obama’s camp is just making things so much harder. they make you feel like a racist just because you won’t vote for him. when i decided not to vote for him it didn’t even occur to me because he was an african american. it’s because he’s a con man and inexperienced. nothing to do with race.
#344 Native Flower
Communist? That’s funny. HBO wrote in his book about a close friend and a mentor–Mr. Frank Marshall Davis was a member of the Communist Party of the USA fromm 1943-1945. They were close friends when HBO lived in Hawaii.
#344 NativeFlower
OK – CALL TO ACTION if this is true.
We need monitors on BO’s candidacy. Every time HE or any of his supporters or paid-for politicians mentions one of these words, we point out that they just played the race card.
I’m really serious about this. If they have banned those words, they shouldn’t be able to use them either. Strike them from the dictionary.
#344 NativeFlower
Are you serious?! That’s got to be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Why doesn’t he just say, “We won’t tolerate any opponents opening their mouths in any way, shape or form in opposition to the puppet on a string.”
yea Ario… can you believe it? i mean, what do you think? my idea of Post Racial is everyone being held accountable for their OWN actions… everyone being judged own their OWN merit. Axelrod is trying to inoculate obama from nearly any and all criticism with the allegation of racism. How is that Post Racial? frackin pisses me off. I was one who was actually excited about obama, but the second i heard about TUCC and read more and more about Jeremiah Wright… I simply could not in good conscious feel good about this guy. I am of mixed heritage myself and I’ve been waiting like alot of us for the person of color in the Oval Office, but this guy is NOT the person i’ve been waiting for. I believe Colin Powell would have been the man for the job.
Seems to me he forgot a few words when he came up with that list. Such as “chicago” and “plagiarize”
I posted this earlier, but the “late shift” might not have seen it. This is the email I sent Nancy Pelosi (with copies to Greta Van Susteren and Howard Dean). I tried to remain polite so that Nancy Pelosi would actually read it.
Dear Speaker Pelosi,
You started out giving an excellent interview with Greta Van Susteren. I especially appreciate the kind words you had for Hillary Clinton.
However, you lost me when you began praising Barack Obama. I agree that his stated positions are closer to my own beliefs than John McCain’s are. However, Senator Obama is not a man of his word. Therefore, I can’t trust his stated positions.
I’m not a voter who will eventually come around. If Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, I will vote for John McCain. It’s not because I prefer his policies. I don’t. It’s not because I’m upset about the sexism Hillary was subjected to. I’m not foolish enough to vote against my bests interests out of anger. It’s not because I wish to send a message to the DNC regarding the disenfranchisement we saw during the primaries. Again, that’s not a good enough reason to vote against my best interests.
It’s solely a question of character. Obama is a man of very bad character, too dangerous and too untrustworthy to be President of the United States.
I disagree with your position that Senator Obama’s relationship with Reverend Wright is not important. The way I see it, Obama spent 20 years embracing the hateful, poisonous attitudes that permeate Trinity Church. Those same hateful, poisonous attitudes dominate the blog posts from Obama supporters. When I see the hatred and violence that Obama inspires in his followers, I can only conclude that an Obama presidency would be dangerous for our nation and the world.
Beyond that, I’m turned off by Obama’s increasingly dismissive attitude. Refusing to do additional debates with Hillary when voters still wanted to hear debates was dismissive of Hillary and voters everywhere. Refusing to insist that Florida and Michigan delegates be seated in full was dismissive, not only to voters in those two states, but to voters everywhere. Refusing to accept McCain’s invitation for weekly town hall meetings is dismissive. Voters want to hear those debates, and we’re entitled to them. Even Obama’s refusal to accompany McCain to Iraq to see conditions firsthand is dismissive.
What this says to me is that a President Obama will be dismissive of everyone and everything that doesn’t serve his immediate interests. That’s unacceptable. We’ve had that from President Bush for the last eight years. I don’t want it anymore.
I don’t know why an intelligent, proactive woman such as yourself has fallen under Obama’s spell and can’t see him for the danger he is. However, you’re entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine.
Know that I have recently joined PUMA PAC and am actively working to defeat Obama. I pray that Obama self-destructs before the Democratic convention in August, while there’s still time to make Hillary our nominee. But if not Hillary, then McCain. It’s not a happy choice, but it’s the only appropriate one.
hmmmm Flip-Flop is racist? What am I supposed to put on my feet? If I wear flip-flops in public will I be pummeled?
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck….Oh, you can’t call it a duck! Is that word on Axelrod’s list too? If not it should be.
“If you don’t like reality, make up your own. We did.” ….that should be the Obama campaign slogan.
good letter firebelle puma
I found Pelosi’s claims that the “Reverend” Wright is not relevant VERY DISTURBING!!!!!!!!!!! WHERE WAS SHE ON 9/11????? These terrorists attacks were carried out based on what those terrorists believed to be the truth in their distorted view of America. They have been taught for years in the madrassas that the USA is the great Satan, etc.etc. WHAT SOMEONE BELIEVES MATTERS….SPECIALLY IF THAT SOMEONE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND WHAT THAT SOMEONE BELIEVES IS G….D…AMERICA….AND AMERICA’S CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!!!!
#361 BrooklynNY
Quack.
i totally agree roxy! that’s idiotic to say it is irrelevant.
Axlerod’s racist terminology – are we re-inventing the English language? What is happening to our freedom of speech? I’ll tell you – it is being taken away from us.
Do BO supporters and his paid henchmen really believe that he is not going to turn on them once he has what he wants? Fools.
somebody named Okie on the mccain site posted about @ 6:52pm today and emailed it to another regular poster named JonBStephens who then found a way to get them past the filter on the mccain site (certain words won’t post in an effort to keep things civil and clean i guess) anyhoo, they are saying it came from CNN. I have been trying to track it down. did a google and there are indeed several references to Axelrod and off limits code words, but i cannot find the exact list for myself as of yet. if anyone can find it, please do!
Seems like that’s part of the plan. Eliminate the words from the language so no one can criticize Golden Boy. Another example of mind-control tactics. Wasn’t that part of the strategy in those science fiction novels of the Cold War era, i.e. “1984″ and “Brave New World”? Once again, coming to a theater near you…..
nativeflower,
i am floored by that. who does he think he is? my patience is really wearing thin and patience is usually one of my virtues.
Cartoon.
Jo Blo citizen trying to speak. Axlerod standing over him with a cattle prod. Every time Jo utters ANY word, he gets prodded.
On a more somber note (if that’s possible), I can’t believe that they are playing these sorts of cards BEFORE the election is over.
sheila….
there is definetely a radical element in the black community….but its very very marginal…the blacks falling inline behind obama are doing this not because they agree with him….most of us dont…we dont believe in abortion…we dont believe in appeasement to terrorists…we are not anti-gun…we are staunch christians with a church on every corner…and we are very very conservative…but we also have the jacksons, obamas and sharptons that have a chock hold on our community….many are opposing this and it will be awhile before the bond is broken…but by far most blacks are not sitting in anti-american churches and anti-white….this is my problem with obama…he should know this…but then he is from chicago and since im from indiana i am familiar with chicago…like i always say the usa is like a whole buch of united countries…and state to state blacks differ…but obama is black and that trumps everything…and i feel this is wrong and not in the policy of martin luther king jr…
#356 BrooklynNY
“Puppet on a string” that’s one we CAN use right. What are you guys doing up so late? AndI thought I was a night owl. Either that or you all are on the west coast.
I just read on ClintonDems that the Iowa state Democratic convention will be this weekend. If we lobby Edwards’ delegates to support Hillary, she could win that convention and pick up delegates for the national convention. If anyone has any websites or lists of pledged and superdelegates for lobbying, you can lobby them to support Hillary at the weekend convention in Iowa. Anyone have more info on lobbying these delegates?
I think this race divide issue is totally out of control. I mean, don’t all races have something that historically went really wrong and a history full of mistakes? I am Hispanic, our history is not exactly a perfect Disney story but I don’t choose to atend a “church” and listen to an “spiritual advisor” that will continue to reopen my wounds Sunday after Sunday, if my genuine intention is to heal and move on! Unless, of course I REALLY DON’T WANT TO MOVE ON, and want to continue to hate those that did my ancestors wrong. How can *61 run for an agent of Unity when he is nothing more than a great DIVIDER?!
#371 Ario
He’s only half black. He dismisses his white half, just like he dismisses everyone and everything else that doesn’t serve his immediate interests.
ario,
i don’t feel it is in the spirit of mlkjr either. like i said i do believe most blacks are more conservative like you’re saying based on my own experience. i have an african american couple that live close by and they are probably the most conservative on the block. very professional and pleasant and that is why i was so shocked by rev. wrights comments and the fact that the congregation was right there with him. there is always that fringe element in any group of people but hopefully most people realize they don’t speak for everyone. i think most people realize that but it doesn’t help to have all of this race baiting from axelrod and obama.
another thing i don’t understand, women have waited a long time to have a president but i would not have voted for just any woman. i don’t understand that. i would want a woman that would represent us with dignity and intelligence. like Hillary!
#370 Pumaindy,
Why do you think the great dictators and abusers of power in other countries are so elated with no name?! They have been so bold as to ENDORSE him!!
roxy
thats why the are called povery pimps..
these guys continuously keep their congregation feeling inferior and oressed so they can make money…
didnt u hear the story of rev wright “retiring” to a mansion on some island? i doubt the average person in his church has that kinda money! there is a church 2 blocks from my house…the pastor has a hummer…lexus and mercedes! hello…? its disgusting…but on a brighter note…many blacks ask me why i have a mccain/dr. rice bumper sticker…lol
stardust,
i’m in the midwest so it’s 1:49 here. i need to get to bed but i am also a night owl.
sheila…
but at the same time…we dont know obama…..i just hope the gop wont become cowards and become scared to expose him…thats one of the things i love about republicans….historically they have no problem exposing and bringing down phonies.
#375 Firebelle PUMA
Remember how Rev. Wright said: “We speak to two different audiences. He tells his audience what they want to hear from a politician, and I tell my audience what they want to hear from a Priest. He’s just another politician.”
Oh, by the way, WHERE IS Rev. Wright now?
#378 ario,
that is disgusting. it should be a crime to use people like that. hopefully someday they will have to answer for that.
sheila..
well the irs is after sharpton so maybe he will end up in a jail cell.
Close to 3:00 AM here. I was looking for the list of no can do names at McCains can not find the blogger who wrote it.
im proud of murphy…she is smart..pro-actrive…a hottie…and a go getter…bravo murphy!
#381 Anonymous
Under the bus. Haven’t you heard?
Yes, I too have wondered why such a vocal figure has been so quiet lately.
did i say hottie…i hope she isnt offended!:(
#386 Firebelle
I think it has all been planned out.
It is important that we keep our eyes on the Prize! The August Democratic convention will decide who is the people’s choice for President. We must make our voices be heard because this is the last chance we have to get Hillary nominated for President.
If someone is trying to steal your home would you not defend your place? Well, instead of allowing this political mugging to take place we must stand up and fight back. In August, we can demand some mayor party reforms. Our Democratic Party is in need of some mayor house cleaning.
It is vital that all of Hillary’s delegates be there to make demands on all the Reforms that our party needs.
For starters, we should do away with the caucus system.
Once upon a time the caucuses may have served a need but just like the appendix in our bodies, once it goes bad it causes a lot of damage or even death. It is time we make surgical cut and get rid of the corrupt caucus system that lent itself to so much manipulation and intimidation of our members. The caucuses created divisions and lots of resentment. This is not good for any political party.
” PASS THE BUCK BO ” your over 100 “present ” in the Senate is not presidential material. You were not able to change Washington as a Senator.
Your “old dirty Chicago politics” is a clear indicator that there is nothing new or fresh about you. Your resume is so thin that We would never hire you to be the President of the United States!
BO, look at all the devision your political ambition has
brought to our Democratic Party. You are not a uniter, you are just a lot of trouble.
We will vote for all the Democrats to the House and Senate so the Democrats will have control come January 2009 but will not vote for BO. We rather leave the Presidential option blank as a form of protest if Hillary is not the Presidential nominee. We will try our hardest that in August, Hillary is nominated as the legitimate Democrat Presidential Nominee.
OUR VOICES WILL BE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR
” WITH HILLARY WE ARE ONE VOICE ”
” HILLARY IS THE PEOPLE’S CHOICE ”
” YES SHE CAN ”
” YES WE WILL “
I heard the “Rev” Wright was supposed to retire but hasn’t. He changed his mind after being thrown under the bus and came up with some lame excuse about not retiring because the new pastor was not ready after all…..I keep thinking we haven’t seen the last of him yet….perhaps the “reverend” feels that no name’s chickens need to come home to roost because no one throws HIM under the bus…specially those who used him and his congregation to run for the senate and for President and want to divorce him for political expidiency later!
#389 Phoenix
Yes, agreed. But I think one of the pre-conditions for this to happen is that we retire Hillary’s debt. Until that happens, her hands are pretty much tied.
oh we havent heard the last of the rev. and obama knows it…its going to be interesting to watch…poor mccain…he needs to stay above it all and let his bad boys go after obama…and mccain better keep that sharp tongue and temper in check…let the bad boys do it mccain!
o god…am i ready to watch chris matthews?
well, i think i’m getting hacked. i got booted off the computer, which never happens to me, and then it wouldn’t accept my password. that’s nice. but by all means lets all unite together.
Oh my…another thing that shocked me from Pelosi’s interview w/ Greta was when she didn’t even defend no name’s lack of experience. She basically admited he didn’t have any!
the whole thing kinda makes me sad when i think about it. i mean seriously, i’ll never forget the day i heard about tucc back in January. i sat there in disbelief. i had just added nObama to my myspace (i know, that’s kinda dorky but hey) and then i heard this whole mess mentioned on NPR. i just felt crushed and stunned. like someone said, this is not what the Honorable MLK fought for and stood for. He did not fight for one group to Stop Hate just for another group to Start Hate.
good night pumas…. lets just pray that God will always guide America no matter who is our prez
#389 PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG
I’m done voting a Democratic Party line. The Dems had control of Congress for the last 2 years and they gave us BO. No. Sorry. I’ll never again vote for any politician based on party. BO didn’t get where he is through by magic. The Dems as a whole were complicit in this fraud. Just as I’m gonna be remembering in November, I’m also gonna be remembering in December, January, February, etc…..The party clean-up is going to take a lot longer than until the Convention or even the election. It’s going to be years. In the meantime, I’m going for individuals that can be trusted, that put the interests of this country first and stand for the principles this country is founded on. If I want the Taliban, I’ll go to Afghanistan.
same here guys and gals….im off to bed…well maybe iafter i grab a quick bite…goodnite pumas!
PUMAINDY 391
Agreed, Hillary needs our help to get the financial hurdle out of the way but August is around the corner and we must take care of all these issues at once.
Part of the political mugging that Hillary suffered was a dirty game to break her financially. BO was given to much ” free ” positive media coverage in the mean time Hillary got charged a lot of pretty pennies for lousy media coverage.
We can work on getting rid of her financials debts incurred and at the same time get her nominated in August as our leader to win the November elections!
” YES WE WILL”
#397 BrooklynNY,
WELL SAID!
#388 pumaindy
that was my first instinct as well
this time for real…. sleep tight Pumas…..:)
#399 Phoenix,
I don’t mean to come across as a negative person. But, the message the DNC has sent to ALL OF US has been clear. THEY (not us) HAVE THEIR NOMINEE. Did you know that the DNC has moved their operations to Chicago? This move speaks volumes to me. THEY ARE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO! That, of course does not stop us from protesting what they are doing. But watch, their minds are made up. We have been seeing that from the very beginning. They ignored 18 million voters Phoenix once and they are determined to do it again because it fits their agenda. I think the only way to stop *61 is to vote McCain in November!
good night everyone, i need to get some sleep also.
wait PUMAs !!!…..think i found something regarding “The List”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×6402026
now i am serrrriously going to bed, about to fall over…..:)
#403 Roxy
Yes, folks at the DNC have been very clear … “We don’t care. Get over it.”
That’s why most of the letters and emails I write these days are aimed at backing Obama into a corner where he’s forced to participate in the weekly town hall meetings that McCain keeps asking for. Maybe then his weaknesses will be sufficiently exposed to make superdelegates reconsider how they will vote in Denver. Our best weapon against Obama is Obama himself.
#388 pumaindy
And that comes from a man who says: “It’s old way politics in Washington”.
Get ready for this!!! Rev. Wright is partially back. Check it out!
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1811674,00.html
I’ll look more up later.
I know Firebelle, but the question is, will he do it? I think this whole thing is pathetic. He is such a flawed and wounded candidate and it kills me to now see Hillary being the one to literally carry him on HER shoulders so he can cross the finish line.
Response to #403 Roxi in CA
You are right, the DP is stuck with the “chosen” one. The Clintons were forced to endorse *61. What does that say about the party “trying” to put on a united front? Listening to Pelosi, McGaskill, and company reminds me of the movie “The Stepford Wives.”
I am definitely voting for McCain in November. The key in defeating *61 is to “follow the money.” I am so ashamed of the Democratic Party. The corruption in his organization will take time to unravel.
BROOKLYN NY 397
Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water. Reforms need to start somewhere and the best forum to get these Reforms going is at our Democrat Convention in August. When things go wrong you do not abandon your country. Why not take over our Party and make it better???
These last eight years have been terrible for our
Nation. We do not want more of the “Bush” failed policies!!!
We can not afford 4 more years of the same! It will bankrupt our Country and send our economy into the most horrible depression it has ever been. The depression we suffered before, will pale in comparison…
Our financial down fall will affect other nations and could bring about the next World War Three.
These are critical times and the wrong leader at the helm could cause a lot of world wide suffering for the human race.
Enough damage has been done, we Democrats must step in and clean up this mess!!!
The more Unions we form the stronger we are. We must make one large push in August to get Hillary nominated! We must demand some mayor Reforms. We are18 million strong and it’s time we let our voices be heard.
” Loud and Clear “
#375 Firebelle
Actually, BO is only 1/16 Black African-American. Extensive research of his family shows his father was mostly Arabic, as evidenced by his fully Arabic name. While there is nothing wrong with BO being Arab-American, he is lying about his ethnicity to try to appeal to African-Americans by trying to convince them his father was entirely of the same Sub-Saharan ancestry they are to get there votes. What’s more is that his family in Kenya were slave traders in the nineteenth century. I think he knows that if the truth of his ethnicity and family were to come out, it would erode his support among the African-American community.
Roxy, he won’t do it if he can help it, because he knows he’s extremely vulnerable. He can’t get out a coherent sentence without the help a teleprompter and the scripted words of his speech writers.
However, I keep sending letters and emails to the media, nudging them to egg him into it. Challenge him to a duel, so to speak. If the media and voters make enough noise about it, maybe he’ll be backed into a corner where he has to respond.
#390 Roxy in Cali
I am sorry, I missed your post.
$411 phillyforhillary
Thanks for the clarification. I knew he was more “mutt” than I gave him credit for, but I was too lazy to look into his heritage. Not that I care anyhow. I wouldn’t like him if he were white. I wouldn’t like him if he were a woman. His heart is black, and I’m not referring to race.
I almost forgot. Last week Father Pfledger came back from his forced leave. Maybe we will find something there.
HBO is so corrupt. I had no idea that anybody could be like that. MAN!
#412 Firebelle PUMA
If we try to help promote the book about HBO, we might give the media and McCain more than enough to work with. I’ll call the writer’s office tomorrow to see what they are planning. That could be our key to getting Hillary into the White House. That guy did EXTENSIVE research on HBO. He obviously knows how to help us. I HOPE!
#410 PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG
I could not DISagree with you MORE regarding your solution to the dire straits we’re in. First of all, McCain is NOT Bush. If you check out his policies and his history (which is long and unquestionably NOT Bush) you will see this. To believe otherwise is simply to buy Dean et al.’s putrid snow job. In my book, Country Comes Before Party. The Democratic Party has sold its integrity and its core constituency down the river, not to mention what it has done to the founding principles upon which this country proudly rests. Before I EVER support them blindly again, they will have to prove to me BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT they have reformed shameful ways. I’m not abandoning my country. My “country” is NOT the Democratic Party. My country IS America.
#408 Roxy in Cali
How about faxing or emailing our daily flyers to DNC and super delegates? Do you think they know about him flip-floping on many issues? Maybe we shoud remind them about it.
#413 Anonymous,
What I meant is The “reverend” as the good hate mongering agent that he is, will not take *61′s slight laying down. Oh no, no one does THAT to him not even the DNC’s pressumed nominee!
Roxy in Cal 403
We the people, for the people are not going to lay down and roll over. We, the 18 million strong must stand up and make the DNC listen to its members. If the DNC is unable to respond or listen to the people then it is time that we do some mayor house cleaning and reforms to the DNC. In August will will declare our cry of rebellion and demand that our voices be heard:
” REFORM”
We must not conform but instead make the necessary repairs to our political party! . Our Democratic Party belongs to us and we must not allow for it to be stolen from us. It is bad enough that Hillary suffered a political mugging !
In August we start our movement of Reform and we will raise our voices to have Hillary nominated our our Presidential nominee!!!!!!!!!!!!
” YES WE WILL “
#417 BrooklynNY,
I know EXACTLY what you mean. Now try to imagine what our country would be like if no name becomes president! Afganistan will pale in comparison!
#420 PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG
YEAH! I AM WITH YOU! LET’S GO TEAM HILLARY!
#421 Roxy in Cali
I don’t even want to think of what will happen if God Forbid HBO will win.
Oh, this is really cool. Republicans will help us fight fire with fire. Check out this article.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-Obama-Senate-Ad.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=rev.+wright+&st=nyt&oref=slogin
HBO claims that he works across party lines–WELCOME!!! Republican candidate from Oregon says that they worked together, but HBO wants Democrat to win. OOPPPSSS! Worked across party lines, and now backing out of it again. Have fun with this article.
#420 Phoenix
Good sentiments. But how do you propose we do it?
Clearly, we can make a difference with our votes. But beyond that, we need realistic, effective plans. Most of the things that have been discussed (protests in Denver, letters, emails, etc.) give us visibility. They don’t necessarily reform the party.
Guys, somthings else nobama is going to do if we do not stop him He is going to hurt a lot of people. Part of his supporters are Africans Americans that only heard him speak once or twice when he came to NC or SC etc. They are so busy trying to keep food on the table and gas in their cars to even watch the cable news. These people never even registered to vote until his team “got” them to. They really believe that if they get an African American president all of a sudden they will have medical coverage and the welfare system back. You and I know that if he get in the oval office they will be forgotten. Those of us who work in the medical field know how hard the fight is now to get any thing for people with out really good insurance let alone no insurance, it frightens me to think of what could happen with him in there.
I had an idea. I know that Hillary had laid out some plans for health care, but I never did see any from NObama. Maybe we could do a side by side flyer and have them at the convention, especially at the states where there are high risk populations. What do you all think
Back in minute baby crying again
#420 Phoenix,
Yes, I hear you, but WE THE PEOPLE must know what if anything WE will do in the event that the Party that left us along time ago chooses to continue to ignore our protest. I don’t pretend to know what every body else will do, but I know I WILL VOTE MCCAIN if Hillary is not the nominee! I’m not leaving my party, my party LEFT ME!!!!!!!!!!! Now, I will do what’s right for my country and pray that others will do the same.
BROOKLYN NY
The same way you do not abandon your country when it is in trouble with that same love you do not abandon your party when it is in trouble. We must stick together and help bring about the Reforms to our party that will make it heal. ” It is not what your party can do for you but what you can do for your party”
We both agree that BO is not the right candidate for President. We will choose to leave the Presidential candidate section blank as a form of protest but we will vote for a Democrat House and Senate ( with one exception: vote Pelosi out). If McCain is elected he can work with a Democrat House and Senate.
But we are getting ahead of our selves. We must work together in August for Hillary to be elected as our nominee!!!!
Here’s the link to Greta’s interview with Pelosi. If this does not make your blood boil, I don’t know what will!
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html
#426 Tucsonpuma
Side-by-side comparisons are a good idea. However, we can’t wait until Denver. Not if we want superdelegates to reconsider and throw their support behind Hillary at the convention.
Besides, the DNC has already chosen their candidate. They’re no longer interested in comparisons between Hillary and Obama. That’s a done deal in their minds. Done. Gone. Over with.
I still believe that where we need to focus our energy now is in showing how weak Obama is against McCain. The only way we can turn this around for Hillary is if the DNC and superdelegates become convinced that Obama will lose in November. Then and only then will they rethink who they want as the nominee.
FIREBELLE
First step is to abolish the corrupt caucus system that lent it self to so much manipulation and intimidation to our democrat members. The primary system should resemble the same system we use in November to elect our leaders. Some legislation needs to be considered to look into the political coup the media layed on this nation!
We must make it a standing rule that a nominee is determined at the Democratic Convention and not be determined by the media.
This a great subject to open a forum and get as much input from all of our members to come out with a stronger and better party for all.
I am one of the 18 million that wants Hillary elected and our party reformed!!! The Reform must start somewhere so why not start it here with us Pumas!!!!
” Yes we will “
428 PHOENIX 18 MILLION STRONG
My Country comes BEFORE my party. I haven’t got the time nor the patience to wait for the Democratic Party to “heal.” My love for country WAY supersedes any feelings I have for party. I do not swear allegiance to the Democratic Party. I swear allegiance to AMERICA. Excuse me, sorry if I get a little hot under the collar here, but please don’t misquote John F. Kennedy in such a despicable way. JFK did not advocate doing what you can for your PARTY! He said “Ask not what your COUNTRY can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.” And what I can do for my country right now is make sure the Democratic Party never gets my vote again, unless and until it becomes a democratic party. I will not leave the presidential portion of the ballot blank. NOT A CHANCE. I will vote for McCain without the slightest reservations! I trust him. I respect him. I believe he has the best interests of the country (not his party, his COUNTRY) at heart. I can wait the months and years it will take the DNC to clean itself up, if indeed it doesn’t go extinct before that occurs….and then MAYBE I will take another look at it. Sometimes when things are rotten to the core, Phoenix, you have to throw them out. Not every story has a happy ending.
#432 Phoenix
I agree that the caucus system should be abolished. But how? If I understand correctly, even the DNC doesn’t have a legal right to force states to change to a primary system. I think each state is legally entitled to choose the system it prefers.
I’m not sure that I agree with you regarding the nominee being determined at the convention. That would place the decision in the hands of delegates and superdelegates, effectively taking the vote away from voters. On the other hand, can we really rely on the popular vote? Nearly 18 million people fell for Obama’s BS.
Perhaps we need a different system altogether. But don’t ask me. I don’t understand politics enough to suggest something better.
Firebelle puma
So same principle except I have not looked at anything McCain has come up with. but example.
health plan of McCain vs Obama.
haalth plan of McCain vs Clinton
show reason why public whould pick McCain over Obama do the same for education, ecomony etc. These we could send to superdelegates etc.
#420 Roxy in Cali
CNN and other friends will not want to “start working” on HBO for a while. Information and constantly promoting it all will save us. Every letter in every article about him, every TV appearance, every newspaper article and magazine interview (we have to get to it ASAP) will bring us closer to getting rid of him. After many TV appearances, now is the time to get different newspapers and magazine to interview us, and get the word out about us. I’ll start to work on local newspapers in the morning.
#435 Tuscon
Maybe. Honestly, I haven’t looked closely at their policies. Once I decided that I didn’t like Obama’s character, that became more important than any policy issues.
But I still keep pushing the idea of backing Obama into a corner where he has to agree to the joint town hall meetings with McCain. Obama is more than capable of showing his weaknesses against McCain if put in to the right position. I’d rather work smarter than harder. Let Obama self-destruct. Why should I have to do the work for him?
BROOLYN
We respect your opinion that you feel confortable with McCain. What we must not allow is for one party to control the House and Senate together with the President position. The last eight years is proof that one party can not have an overwhelming control. If We have Democrat House and Senate with McCain as President, it is an acceptable combination.
Lets not accept defeat that is too negative, lets start reforming our Democratic Party.
( But we still are getting ahead of our selves. )
We have a battle to win in August and that is just around the corner. Join us is helping Hillary be nominated in August!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to think on this some, but I do agree on the idea of pushing him into the town all meetings. I just have doubts that whomever operates his puppets strings will ever let him do it.
I’m going to bed now. Good-night all.
What city and state does Murphy live in? We should get to their local newspaper. I tried to do it here in CA. I called the office and they transfered me to the editor in chief. He told me to email the story to him. I didn’t and that’s why we didn’t get a very big exposure before the caucus to select the delegates to go to the convention. So, we need to call them, find out how to get a “press release” in the paper. We need to make sure that they have received it, and will print it. Talking to reporters is also very important. That should be our next project besides flooding DNC with emails, letters, etc.
#439 Tucsonpuma
No kidding. That’s why I keep harping on what it says if he doesn’t do it.
After all, how many times during the primary season did he say, “I welcome that debate with John McCain”? Oh yeah? Well, now John McCain keeps asking for debates, and Obama says no. That tells me he’s not a man of his word.
How many times has Obama insisted he’s a leader when it comes to reaching across the aisle? The dimwit can’t even reach across his campaign platform to one of the senators he’d have to work with as President. Again, he’s not a man of his word. And he’s not at all bipartisan.
These are the points we need to keep hammering home. If he doesn’t do the weekly debates, he’s a liar. If he does do them, he self-destructs. But we can’t let him off the hook.
Hey Everyone,
Murphy just put up a new post. See you upstairs.
FIREBELLE 434
BO would not have made it very far without the corrupt caucus system! The caucus system represents a small portion of the voters that are able to attend the meetings at night. It is true that a lot of people fell for BO’s BS but on the same token so did a lot of People fall for Bush BS. Both are not good examples of leaders!!!!
One thing both (BO & Bush) have in common: the Media pushed them on us. We the people need to ask our Legislators to look into the violations to our Democracy perpetrated by the Media. The Media was allowed to be very verbally abusive to Hillary our Democrat Senator. If some type of collusion took place then a special prosecutor must me named. We do not want Big Brother to be brain washing us and making our decisions !!!!!!
pumas
you must understand
that the pelosi, is not that she is pro, pro obama
is that she is against CLINTON
she can not take that HILLARY be the 1rst woman president
I think that it all cames down to lower instincts
#444 Phoenix
You’re preaching to the choir.
Let me know when you figure out how to correct these injustices. My friends and I have similar discussions. We can easily “solve the world’s problems” during our phone conversations. It just don’t translate to the rest of the world.
FIREBELLE
I LOVE THIS CHOIR!
This choir can be the birthplace of our Democratic Reform Party!!!!.
“
#448 Phoenix
And on that note … pun intended … I’m crawling off to bed, where the teddy bears are waiting. My little choir has already begun singing happy birthday to their mommy.
FIREBELLE
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
Good night Puma family!
The whole election has been a joke, from the very beginning the dems were pushing *61 at us, I think Hillary recognized it way before us, yet, she still thought she could win.
I am African-American also, and Firebelle Puma, you are right Obama is barely black, he has gotten into the fold, passed himself off as A-A. If he should win heaven help us all.
Nancy Pelosi, is more of what is wrong with this country, we have allowed all of these dems. a free pass, now when it’s important to us to represent our views, we find them lacking.
I am ashamed that the A-A’s are for this clown, he has divided this country, it will take along time to heal the wounds, caused by this election. I have been for Hillary, and will always be here, no one tells me how to vote, and my vote is not for sale.
I will vote for McCain, this fall, I have never voted Republican, I don’t have to worry about his patriotism.
#369 NativeFlower
Thanls for the source(s) of the list. When you first posted the list, I thought you were serious, thne I thought that has to be a joke. Now I realize once again, that it’s serious.
I think the only words mr constitution man will end up allowing are I’mVotingForObama.
I posted this at Gretawire regarding her interview with Pelosi:
Greta,
Thank you for giving voice to many of us who are concerned about not only racism and sexism, but the sheer malice displayed by Senator Obama’s supporters during the DNC primary. Thank you for NOT ignoring your e-mails. Obviously, Nancy Pelosi is ignoring hers and that’s why some of us are viewing McCain as the lesser of two evils.
If the Democrats were truly concerned about universal health care, they would have supported its foremost champion, Senator Clinton. The Dems have proved to be just as corrupt and heedless as the Repubs.
The only good thing to come out of this campaign is the development of PUMAPac and other groups disgusted with politics as usual. We deserve better and we deserve to be heard. This “engineered” nomination was an important catalyst for voters who are demanding the clean-up of the very polluted political system in this country.
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NEWS UPDATE
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**OBAMA TO RECEIVE SACRED IDOL**
I am not making this up. Obama is receiving an idol bc it has been reported he is an ardent follower of Lord Hanuman.
For More Info Go To:
http://www.obama-wire.com
#451
Missy1208
same with me, I feel exactly the same way!
Interesting article from Elon College newspaper:
http://www.elon.edu/pendulum/Story.aspx?id=645
Love this quote:
“Just like most politicians in America, Obama will say and do anything it takes to get elected, true to the dirty politics of Chicago – where he rose to political power. And Chicago politics makes Washington politics look like a tennis match between old ladies.”
Does anyone have any idea how much we’ve raised for Hillary so far? (or a close estimate?)
In case anyone missed it, CNN was showing clips of Obama answering questions from reporters. If you closed your eyes you would swear you were listening to Bush. There were so many errrsss in each answer, I had to turn the tv off and tell my husband to get his news somewhere else
AHHHH!!! If he’s elected, I won’t be able to take another 4 years of not being able to listen to the President speak when it’s not written down for him. I may have to sell my tv.
#457 That would be good to know
I had to be off this evening for awhile and can not catch up on the posts. Early tomorrow.
The Debt.
The Debt.
The Debt.
Money talks in politics and if we can’t retire a 20 million dollar total when Obot has 100′s of millions at his disposal, then “they” aren’t going to take the coalition seriously.
Thanks Taffy for explaining the troll thing. I’m sure I’m not the only one who needs an education.
Goodnight all.
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