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632 comments ↓
Murphy
Count me in! I will donate after work or this weekend.
Yay eward! you are FIRST to Commit!
I’ve sent in my 100.00–we must do everything we can to make certain this dangerous, phony, flim flam man does not enter the WH-our country’s integrity depends upon it
Just donated $100
Murphy, EDward may have been the first, but I’d like to double the amount to $200.
I COMMIT TO CONTRIBUTING $200 TO PUMA PAC FOR ADVERTISING.
(Can I contribute more?)
Wooohoooo! me too!
I will donate next week. Count me in for $100.
Take my first $25 I’ve already donated this morning and put towards this! I will give the balance over the next few weeks and by July 20th.
Murphy,
You’ll have my $100.00 within the next couple weeks.
woo-hoo! we are the greatest!
Thank you everyone for pouncing so quickly!
Knoxville:
As far as I know the legal limit for individual donations to unconnected PACs like ours is $70,000
so, feel free to double!
Murphy, I will send my 100.00 when I get paid in about 2 weeks for sure. This is great!
I’l commit to $200 or maybe $300 within the next thirty days I would love to see ads by the puma pac it would make them take notice as to how real this group is . I was reading over on talk left that Hillary is going to be speaking out about the way her campaign was treated soon any way count me in.
$70,000! Well, in that case… (I wish). Good morning, Murph
Uhm, I don’t get it. Why is the hammer thrower wearing an Obama shirt? Shouldn’t she be wearing a Hillary shirt?
I didn’t really *get* the second video. I think it might be a bit too esoteric.
The first video is a great start. Do we have a money meter for keeping track of getting to our goal?
AMAZING!!! GREAT JOB!!!
I have contributed in the past (once each week) and definitely commit to $100 for this project…6/30/2008.
Excellent Murphy!!!
Are we voting for which ad?!?! The first one for me too. I’ve seen the second ad done a few times before.
YES! Count me in Murphy - you ‘ll have my $100 by the end of the day. More to come.
My thoughts….
Love the 1st ad - let’s get that on TV asap.
I think the second ad could be shorter, end it with the runner in the Obama shirt throwing the hammer at the Statue of Liberty and shattering it.
By the way folks, Pennsylvania will NOT vote for Obama in the GE. THAT ship has sailed.
Count me in, too. I’ll send my $100 in increments over the new few weeks.
I like the second video. In my opinion, the references to Orwell’s 1984 are extremely powerful.
I just donated $100. First ad is a winner for me. Keep them coming! You all are amazing!
http://www.bythefault.com/2008/06/20/an-obama-supporter-now-has-doubts/
count me in too. You’ll have mine by tomorrow. I’m in PA and voting for McCain! McCain needs to do something to get BHO off the news….it’s all about him and sounds like Mc isn’t doing anything except visiting the flood area….don’t get me wrong this is good, but BHO is all over the news about what he’s doing to win over the country! I hate it!
Count me in…..I liked both ads. The second one could scare some people away, so be a little careful with it. I was scared and I am fully aware of what BO is about !!
Just my view…
I am delighted by the actions taken by PUMA..
mart in PA: PA tends to vote for whoever the unions endorse. We need to focus on the unions. Also, in the primary, Philly went for *61 and Pittsburgh went for Clinton. If we can keep Pittsburgh for McCain, it’s a done deal b/c those of us who are not “city folk” will not even consider it.
just received this from Donna Brazile:
“Subject: Stop the hate and sending emails to my account
From: Donna Brazile
Date: Fri, June 20, 2008 7:53 am
To: Murphy@pumapac.org
Options: View Full Header | View Printable Version | Download this as a file | Whitelist Sender | Add to Addressbook
This is the smears you attribute to others. It’s people like you who have distorted
so much and acting as if Rush Limbaugh control your thoughts. Please stop the hate.
Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile. Please excuse any typos or
grammatical errors. “
I guess the letters are getting to her.
Poor Donna! Being contacted by Democrats and U.S. Citizens.
What nasty thing will we think up next?! Maybe we could, I dont know, stand up for counting votes and awarding delegates to the actual winners of primaries.
Sheesh! Next thing you know we’ll be getting REALLY radical and start voting or something!
As someone who knows the unions a lot of us are not voting for Obama I think we are seeing polls that are made up lies just like during the primary’s they are already doing to McCain what they did to Hillary I am voting for John McCain because I have grandchildren and I don’t want to one day see them have to deal with what a mess this country is right now. I do believe it can be turned around and John and then Hillary will do it .So JM will get my vote this year the first republican vote for me ever .
Poor Poor Donna to win the world but lose your soul is a hard thing she should have shown a little moxy and corrected this and done the right thing when she had the chance she is living what she did six months ago .Just like I tell my kids in six months you will be living by what ever choices you make today .
Count me in too for the $100 plus.
I just donated my $100 for the ad campaign. Us PUMA’s do know how to pounce.
One reason among many I’m with Puma is because I’ve always known BO is a phony but after his latest flip flop on public campaign financing he’s again showing his true character. Like Hillary always said, it’s just words.
Famous last words: “I could no more turn my back on (fill in the bank) than I could my white grandmother”.
Well we can just keep adding up those people and ideals he’s thrown under the bus.
Count me in; #2 video all the way!
The first ad just tell Joe Q. and Jane Public what
they already know, old news.
#2 will grab Joe Q. and Jane Public, you know
the bitter ones of us, and will be something they
will point others to. It is the 1984 that is repeating
itself in this election.
527 ads need to be edgy, and #2 is; and it
reinforces what a growing number of us
think - that there is a coming revolution
led by the “unknowing.” This one will
get the attention of the public and will
spread virally by word of mouth.
I like #1 too, but only if we can have both.
Just donated $100. Go pumas, go! We can do this!
What is the consensus on the mailing of the
FLIP FLOPS?
Just donated. Yes on 1st ad, no on 2nd. Most people don’t realize just how much money Obama is getting from special interests groups because he is such a liar.
How about the pharmaceutical companies, they donated more to Obama during the primary than to any other candidate. Wonder what kind of “change” they anticipate getting. Most people won’t “get” 2nd ad . . . they’ll just write it off as negative propaganda. Here’s an idea . . . do you realize that what Obama is saying is almost a paraphrase to what Hitler said. “One people, one country, one leader”. He also promised change. I’ll bet the ad people could do something with that one . . . using his own words.
I think it’s a great idea Shorttermer, Let’s put it in the Growl for this weekend.
This is a perfect time for it. There are LOTS of obama supporters who are PISSED OFF about the flip-flop on campaign financing.
Check out this link from Charles Lemos, a great blogger on our blogroll (byTheFault)
http://www.bythefault.com/2008/06/20/an-obama-supporter-now-has-doubts/
“The two Obamas”
Check today’s New York Times Editorial by David Brooks.
A most read and pass it on to anybody you know.
They are finally getting the picture of the real Obama.
Murphy I’ll donate little by little by I’m on the wagon.
I donated my $100. I may do some more before July 20th, but I want to help Hillary pay down her debt too. I vow to send her a $100 check in my thank you note to her today.
P.S. I REALLY like the first ad. I think the second ad is a bit “much.” By that I mean that I think it could turn a lot of people off, and doesn’t really focus on a message we want to send. It’s a really good depiction of how we all see Obamabots, but if we are trying to open their eyes we can’t insult them the way they insulted us throughout the primaries. My 2 cents.
I’d like to see an ad showing Hillary Clinton, not OB! Perhaps an excerpt from her “suspension” speech. Her concerns, 18,000,000 cracks in the ceiling, etc.
Why give him more publicity of any kind?! Just my opinion, what do you all think?
By the way, Hillary is campaigning with OB next week.
Hillary is going to campagin with the BO has anyone else seen this in the blog news what a woman you know she is showing such grace I have never seen a loser [they have all been men] do this for thier rival.
I contributed $50.00, which added to prior contributions of $25.00 and $25.00 = a total of $100.00.
MCR
Murphy, Any way we can donate to one ad only? Sorry folks, the second ad just gives me the creeps. Its too much like WWII and I think we’d get some flack from my 80 year old friends. They vote too The first ad is great. I read all of that on the Federal Elections Commission sight months ago. The second ad is too much over the top for me for reasons given. Murphy, I want to donate the full amount, but not for the seond ad.
I liked both videos. Rank ordered according to my preference: #2 and after that #1.
#2 packs a more powerful impact.
I like the first clip, the 2nd one I get only because I know a
lot about BO. People who get there news through sound bite may not know him like we do. I think clips showing his hypocrisy or flip flops would be better. Seeing is believing.
Also. compiling all the footage of why we are protesting the 2008 election and then advertising to join PUMA would be good, too.
Oops : sight-site seond-second
#24 pa dem on 06.20.08 at 10:53 am:
Northeastern PA went 70% for Hillary, as did many rural areas between Pittsburgh and Phila.
I think you’re right about us needing to focus on the unions, although there’s a good chance that, given a choice between *61 and McCain, they will swing more towards McCain.
#25 murphy on 06.20.08 at 11:02 am
Re: Brazile When did First Amenment Rights become “Hate?” She will find that she cannot silence us.
New York Times article. Hmmmmm - I can’t help but feel that O’s small givers operation is just as corrupt as the large donor system. Unfortunately, small donors don’t get listed unless it’s cummulative. Any one out there more versed in checking out the FEC? There’s more to this whole money giving thing than meets the eye.
#22 joanna0902 on 06.20.08 at 10:49 am
Where is PA do you live? I’m in NE PA and my protest vote is going to John McCain in Nov if Hillary is not the Democratic nominee for President after Denver.
My two cents- for what it’s worth- most of America will not get the second ad (remember, these are people who think he voted against the war!! They get their info from TV) I think the first one will grab them and it’s shorter and as everyone knows, we live in this blackberry-ritalin-fast-paced world, you need short and quick.
I will make my donation next week when I get paid
#36 bellecat on 06.20.08 at 11:27 am
Re: Brooks did a great analysis.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
“But as recent weeks have made clear, Barack Obama is the most split-personality politician in the country today. On the one hand, there is Dr. Barack, the high-minded, Niebuhr-quoting speechifier who spent this past winter thrilling the Scarlett Johansson set and feeling the fierce urgency of now. But then on the other side, there’s Fast Eddie Obama, the promise-breaking, tough-minded Chicago pol who’d throw you under the truck for votes.”
“This guy is the whole Chicago package: an idealistic, lakefront liberal fronting a sharp-elbowed machine operator. He’s the only politician of our lifetime who is underestimated because he’s too intelligent. He speaks so calmly and polysyllabically that people fail to appreciate the Machiavellian ambition inside.”
In the 2nd ad if we fling words at him with no substance it will look like we are attacking him, to people that like him.
I always heard that he didn’t salute the flag, but when I saw the clip (for the first time last week) of him actually not saluting the flag it made a big impact on me.
Murphy - couldn’t wait until later - just donated my $100.
I donated $100 toward ad #2.
Murphy, what is Donna Brazile’s edress now? I want to send her this email [please forgive me for taking some text from posts above - it was just too powerful to resist. Email below:
Ms. Brazile,
Poor Donna! Being contacted by Democrats, and in my case an Independent, and U.S. Citizens? What a horrible thing that the OTHER citizens, you know the OLD coalition, are upset with your promotion of and vote for disenfranchising 2.4 million voters and
hijacking the election! Did you NOT expect to hear from us?
What nasty thing will we think up next?! Maybe we could, I dont know, stand up for counting votes and awarding delegates to the actual winners of primaries. Sheesh! Next thing you know we’ll be getting REALLY radical and start voting or something!
Poor, poor Donna to win the world but lose your soul is a hard thing, you should have shown a little backbone and corrected this and done the right thing when you had the chance. You are living what you did six months ago. Just like I tell my kids in six months you will be living by what ever choices you make today - and you are what your friends are.
Not too late to denounce, disown, reject and repudiate - just vote for the ELECTED one, not the SELECTED one at the August convention. Reject the SELECTED [nObama]. Respect the ELECTED [our Hillary].
Oh, and you should repent for your bad judgment, but then being repentant means that you are sorry for the discretion and
that YOU WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN!
1 of 18 Million and growing.
–
ShortTermer
Registered Independent Voter in FL - I will not forget those who voted me half a person
Hillary Republican
P.U.M.A. Democrat
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex.” 1872 Susan B. Anthony, Suffragette
“I am aware that many object to the severity of my language; but is there not cause for severity? I will be as harsh as truth, and as uncompromising as justice . . . I am in earnest - I will not equivocate - I will not excuse - I will not retreat a single inch - AND I WILL BE HEARD!” written 177 years ago by William Lloyd Garrison.
#10 murphy on 06.20.08 at 10:13 am
Murphy, Lightsong Films may want to consider parts of David Brooks recent article in a video/film.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
Am I right in thinking that the ads are already completed and that changes may not be possible?
Great letter! ShortTermer
Yes on first. The second might go over some heads and has potential to be misunderstood and create negative fallout. Too risky I think.
It might be good for us to think broadly and identify whom we are and should be targeting, and what will most effectively reach each of those voters.
Tossing out a couple things aimed at the average american (you know, the bitter people? hehe)
1) the flip flops because it cuts to the quick. It makes him either a liar or just another politician saying what he has to in order to get elected. Neither of which he wants.
2) Also on the issue of plain old trust: how he says he is not influenced by special interests, etc etc etc. A simple declaration of the facts is in order: how much he’s gotten from various interests and people. Shows what a liar he is on that. that not only does he accept it, he attacks others for it while saying he doesn’t. Very deceptive.
3) he always brought up the “kitchen sink” and how hillary would do anything to win. But that’s the game he is playing. He says what we want and need to hear, and we can see from his past that he rewards those who support him and punishes those who don’t. like a good old politician.
Remember the speech noname gave about ‘words’ (you know the one Deval Patrick gave?) The Just Words one? It’s bad enough he stole or reused it (both guys are brought to us by Axelrod after all) but with his latest flipflop… oh can we ever have fun. He IS just words. Use the same formula… noname quotes followed by “just words”
So his own speech can come back and bite him in the donkey.
Just donated…Like I said..be careful with #2, do more like #1.
Thank you for doing all of this.
Hi All–Please get word out via the links below on TWO big issues:
ontherecord@foxnews.com
oreilly@foxnews.com
cavuto@foxnews.com
Form for Lou Dobbs:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?9
1. Sickening, deceptive BO ad re: Kansas values airing in 18 states. Read link for his REAL values and formative years. Make a list (good and bad) from the article and compare to Kansas values–whatever that could be.
http://thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=8776
2. NAFTA flip flops: Summary based on post on another Hill blog:
WHAT HE SAID THEN:
Obama: “I Don’t Think NAFTA Has Been Good For America - And I Never Have.”
In February,2008, Obama had sent out a mailer which said, “Only Barack Obama consistently opposed NAFTA,” the mailer continued on to say, “A little more than a year ago, Hillary Clinton thought NAFTA was a ‘boon’ to the economy. “The notion that Senator Clinton is peddling, that somehow there are contradictions or winks and nods, has been disputed by all parties involved,” he said.
Later, at a Feb. 24th rally in Toledo, Ohio BO re-iterated “I have always opposed NAFTA!”
In April BO mailed out flyers in Pennsylvania: Over a picture of people standing in an unemployment line is this headline: “Here’s the Truth: Hillary Clinton supported NAFTA and permanent China trade. Pennsylvania lost thousands of jobs.”
On April 14th BO’s site posted:”That’s why I opposed NAFTA, it’s why I opposed CAFTA…”
WHAT HE SAYS NOW:
Fortune Magazine: “Obama: NAFTA not so bad after all”.Obama said, “Sometimes during campaigns the rhetoric gets overheated and amplified.”
The interview asks if that means that Obama’s rhetoric was overheated and amplified and he responded with, “Politicians are always guilty of that, and I don’t exempt myself.” Obama says he believes in “opening up a dialogue” with trading partners Canada and Mexico “and figuring to how we can make this work for all people.
Did you catch this blog
http://pumas4change.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/we-have-moved/
A major DUH hit me:
We should also look into targeting academia – college papers if we can. That would also be a good place to organize PR events maybe? Given how much BO leans on this demographic, and how little many of them know about him…. It would IMHO be a worthwhile target. Even if it doesn’t convince any voters, it could get some good news coverage (ie free publicity LOL)
I’m thinking out loud a lot lately so bear with me. Here are some of the thoughts running through my head as far as spreading the word, in no particular order
-target smaller/more regional papers, including weeklies and special interest pubs (we’re working on this)
-send letters to the editor anywhere we can: FREE!
-target colleges kids. Hit BO where it hurts. Time to go for the belly of the beast
Might enlighten some
Even if not, it could get some good PR/news coverage
Ads/letters to campus papers, and those in college towns
Possibly even organize PR events there
-target Chicago: Home Base for Noname and now the D(spit)NC
-target Denver – so they know we’re coming!
-Creative campaigns- like the kool-aid packets, pumas.
Draws attention in a positive way - One more contrast to BO’s nasty minions
One of the most successful recent campaigns (don’t get me started LOL) was the “nuts” one to bring back the show Jericho. They started ordering peanuts online and sending them to the network en masse. It made the news and the show did get to come back for a second season albeit a short one.
-Don’t let the campaign financing go! Keep this one in the news. And point out as much as we can that McCain introduced reform legislation. It’s a great example of words v actions.
Re: The Birth of Whitey: Black Liberation Theology and The Nation of Islam
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/20/the-birth-of-whitey-black-liberation-theology-and-the-nation-of-islam/#more-3152
Don’t miss BO with a paper bag over his head. Good!
Just watched the first one again. That really is fabulous
The only thing that might help it is to include something about how BO has said that he doesn’t accept $ from such groups. To *really* highlight the lie.
TIES IN BEAAAAUTIFULLLLY WITH THE FLIP FLOP IDEA:
Instead of the erasers, I now think that buying flips flops and actualy writing on them and mailing them unpackaged would be an excellent opportunity to make a big impact. Mail them out as singles, not pairs to the same person. I will check with the post office to see if flip flops can go through the postal service! Soldier on, PUMas!
“58states1: Tossing out a couple things aimed at the average american (you know, the bitter people? hehe)
1) the flip flops because it cuts to the quick. It makes him either a liar or just another politician saying what he has to in order to get elected. Neither of which he wants.
2) Also on the issue of plain old trust: how he says he is not influenced by special interests, etc etc etc. A simple declaration of the facts is in order: how much he’s gotten from various interests and people. Shows what a liar he is on that. that not only does he accept it, he attacks others for it while saying he doesn’t. Very deceptive.
3) he always brought up the “kitchen sink” and how hillary would do anything to win. But that’s the game he is playing. He says what we want and need to hear, and we can see from his past that he rewards those who support him and punishes those who don’t. like a good old politician.”
#60 Felix on 06.20.08 at 12:09 pm
They do not support PumaPAC.
“I’m also sure that sites like PUMAPAC are just out to make a fast buck off of a bad situation. The fact that many of the so called PUMA sites refused to link to my blog, because I was willing to listen to both sides, shows just how immature and childish THEY are. Adults are willing to listen and decide. Children pick a side, and stay there, because they are…well…children.”
I just donated $25 Receipt Number: 5496-0696-0337-4625. And I am committed to providing the balance by July 20, 2008.
We have got to stop this guy I pray that all our activities will make the SDs cove to their senses in August at the convention. If they are adamant in their “Selection”, I say let’s all vote for McC. I want Hillary 2008 or 2012. We have to let the Democratic Party leaders know they cannot push losers on us again. ENOUGH!!!
Since World War II, 10 elections, the Democratic Party won only 3 of those elections, and Pres. Bill Clinton two of those elections. Look at the way his own party turned on him. I am FED UP of lining up behind losers, Kerry, now Obama.
I refused to let them define female issues and reducing it to Roe v Wade. ENOUGH.
Thank you so much PUMA, for been fighters.
I think the first ad is great, but the second one would be hard for people to understand. Maybe you should edit it to seem just like the similar ad Obama ran last year and have the woman with the shirt have a Hillary logo or something that connotes democracy. She shouldn’t throw a hammer at a picture of Obama, that would seem threatening, but there could be someone on the screen telling everyone to obey in a cold manner. If we show it at least once like he did (or Apple computer did originally), then it could get enough attention to have an impact. And we should remind people at the end that there is still time to put Hillary in as the nominee at the convention and to call superdelegates (we should mention websites that list superdelegates).
Sheesh just reread my own post… tossing out a couple things 1) 2) 3) ‘Our chief weapon is fear and surprise.’
Good lord I was even on the math team
ANYway….
I found one excellent link on ad rates:
http://www.gaebler.com/Newspaper-Ad-Rates.htm
It doesn’t have all of them but it has a TON listed by state/city. The way they have it laid out in a grid, you can do a good eyeball comparison. Like in Chicago the range is from over $700 per column inch for the Tribune, to $7 for some small papers. I think we could really make a big impact if our dollars can go that much further. I’m not sure if it will let me paste this ok, but here is the chicago list:
Newspaper Rates
African American Times
$40.00
Austin Voice
$33.00
Beverly Review
$9.00
Bridgeport News
$33.00
Brighton Park/McKinley Park Life
$13.00
Catholic New World
$10.00
Chatham-Southeast Citizen
$41.00
Chicago Catolico
Chicago Crusader
$15.00
Chicago Defender
$82.00
Chicago Flame, University of Illinois at Chicago
$7.00
Chicago Free Press
$34.00
Chicago Maroon, University of Chicago
Chicago Reader
$30.00
Chicago Shimpo
$80.00
Chicago Sun-Times
$499.00
Chicago Tribune
$755.00
Chicago Weekend
$67.00
Chinese American News
$70.00
Citizen Newspaper Corp.
City NewsHound
$10.00
Clear-Ridge Reporter
$10.00
Columbia Chronicle, Columbia College Chicago
$7.00
De Paulia, De Paul University
Epoch Times- Chicago Edition
$11.00
Extra
$46.00
Financial Times
Garfield-Lawndale Voice
$33.00
Gazette
$26.00
Greek Star
$12.00
Herald Newspapers, Inc.
Hoy
$30.00
Hyde Park Citizen
$24.00
Hyde Park Herald
$46.00
Independent, Northeastern Illinois University
India Tribune
$25.00
Inside
$25.00
Journal News
$10.00
Katolik
$14.00
La Raza
$33.00
Lakefront Outlook
$28.00
Lakeview
$26.00
Loyola Phoenix, Loyola University
N’Digo
$84.00
Nadig Newspapers
New City
$58.00
New World Publications
Nitty Gritty News
$5.00
North Lawndale Community News
$15.00
Northwest Side Press
$20.00
Nuevo Siglo
$52.00
People’s Weekly World
$20.00
Polish Daily News
$10.00
Polish News
$80.00
RedEye
$129.00
Reporter
$18.00
Socialist Worker
$12.00
Sounds
$10.00
South End Citizen
$41.00
South Suburban Citizen
$24.00
Southeast Chicago Observer
$9.00
Southwest News-Herald
$12.00
Southwest News-Herald Oak Lawn/Burbank/Bridgeview Edition
$10.00
Streetwise
$19.00
Tempo, Chicago State University
Today’s Chronicle
$25.00
Voice Newspapers
Vondrak Publishing Co.
Windy City Word
$45.00
Xavierite, St. Xavier University
My resonse posted on pumas4change:
front page
We Have Moved, In More Ways Than One
June 18, 2008 · 3 Comments
As many of you already know, I was an ardent Hillary supporter, angry, just as the rest of you are, about her loss. However, as someone who trusts her judgment, when she asked me to support Barack Obama, I had some thinking to do.
After much thought and discussion and research, I’ve decided to support Barack Obama, AS HILLARY ASKED US TO DO! If you don’t want to support her decision, that’s up to you, but I love her enough to do as she asks.
I’m sure she doesn’t want all this controversy and embattlement. I’m also sure that sites like PUMAPAC are just out to make a fast buck off of a bad situation. The fact that many of the so called PUMA sites refused to link to my blog, because I was willing to listen to both sides, shows just how immature and childish THEY are. Adults are willing to listen and decide. Children pick a side, and stay there, because they are…well…children.
I’ve read so many misleading and downright fabricated blog posts from you people, that I am ashamed I ever associated myself with you. Every time I try to comment to point out the truth, my comments are not approved. You only want people to hear YOUR side, the very thing you accuse the Obama camp of doing. It’s just shameful that you would twist a knife in Hillary’s back like this.
I’ve been abused by the PUMAS ever since I made the decision to listen and make my own decision. To my way of thinking, these women and men are weak minded individuals who just follow a crowd, and do not have the ability to make a decision for themselves. Talk about a cult! You blast the Obama supporters for the very same thing you are doing, and you behave in the very same ways you accuse them of acting.
By posting these abusive comments, and promoting divisiveness, you’re lowering yourself to a level where I do not wish to follow. You are more like a cult than Obama’s side ever was. You are the extremists and terrorists of the other side. You are fear mongers, haters, and maybe even racists. In any event, you are not people I would associate in real life, and not people I want to associate with on the internet.
So say what you want. I’m letting you rant and rave as much as you want. All comments to this blog are unmoderated, so that everyone can see just how immature and idiotic you are. Go to town. I won’t be back here to read them, or to respond. And we won’t be accepting your comment on the other blog either, so don’t even bother to come there.
To the rest of you, thank you for your support. Please join us at our new location “Thoughts On The Matter At Hand”, right here at WordPress to continue the discussions.
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frugalwench // June 19, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Well, this isn’t abusive, but I agree with her. It’s our inalienable right to vote for and support whomever we choose. I’ve read the PUMA sites, and they are just what they say they’re fighting against…misleading, bigoted, and hateful, without a whole lot of common sense postings at all.
RIChris // June 20, 2008 at 9:01 am
You didn’t listen and make your own decision. You DID AS HILLARY ASKED YOU TO DO. Lemming.
ShortTermer // June 20, 2008 at 11:26 am
Please change the name of your wordpress site, because you are counter to just about everything that we, collectively, are trying to do as PUMAs. You obviously are a Kool Aid drinker and you would gain more by just naming your site something else - like I WANT BARRACK!!!!
I will never vote for nObama because he does not share my values or religious tenor, he is dishonest, he has a razor thin resume and little experience, and he is documented as being on BOTH sides of just about every issue:
removing troops from Iraq, campaign spending, etc. The only policies he has are the ones he xeroxed form Hillary. For all these reasons and more, I am asking you if nObama is for change, then WHAT change? Seems like the same ol same old to me, except he is slicker than slick. Americans seem to continue to be sheeple.
If part of the goal is to reach those who are not online, that second ad might be more of a turn off. It really is creepy and dark. People need facts, the first video can cover more ground.
My 2 cents.
I’ll be quiet now LOL but one last thing:
I think we should DEFINITELY put something in the Hyde Park papers…
Re: Data for growl
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100587.html?hpid=topnews
Big Bucks Barack
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, June 20, 2008; 10:28 AM
“So Barack Obama’s decision yesterday to become the first presidential candidate of the modern era to opt out of public financing flies in the face of that tradition. It also happens to contradict his own past assurances. And it poses a real test for the media.”
“The question: Are the media going to call Obama on the reversal? Will there be hand-wringing pieces about the corrupting role of money in politics? Or will the story just be covered as the two sides trading charges?”
USA Today’s lead: “Democrat Barack Obama’s decision to walk away from more than $84 million in taxpayer money for the general election signals trouble for a system created to limit the influence of special interests, experts say.” Second graf: “set aside an early promise.”
Good Morning and Good Luck Pumas!
Murph,
I still want your opinion on my site http://www.obama-wire.com
Hello cats and kittens! Count me in–I will happily donate. Also, here is another great cause if you are interested.
Gotta run for now. Keep up the great work everyone!
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I like video #1, its direct and too the point. I think simple is good, a lot of people have no idea what is going on past the sound bites.
Food for thought though. Since add #2 was used early in the primary against Hillary it might get some talk in the MSM. Maybe? Maybe not?
Sorry! Pulled a barack, I have one more thing to add after all.
While many of us seem to agree that the second ad might not be ideal I do think there is some merit to it, and it could be reworked. I think the image of obama being filled with words is a good one to make– my only concern is that the way it’s done in black and white with him being darkened by the letters… it can be seen as making him sinister but I can easily see it being labelled racist. I just see it coming. best to find a way to avoid any possibility of that as it could really turn things sour and give HIM reason for another national address. Ugh. Last thing we want.
Ok- back to grindstone with me! Til tonight
I just kicked in a $100. Go Puma!!!
I like video 1 best. Keep making more though! We need to get the message out multiple ways.
Whyyyyy do I keep thinking of more?!
Another thought popped in my head: by targeting small local newspapers, we’d be putting $ into the kinds of places that need it most. Giving money back to America, not just to media giants. Something about that just feels… right.
Please consider the first ad only. I think the second ad will turn away a lot of viewers we are trying to win over and have a back lash effect of actually glorifying Obama’s persona and cause. I think the first ad is extremely well done and to the point.
Murphy,
This is a fantastic idea. I like the first video because it is direct, deals with money and definitely shows politics as usual. The second is too esoteric and even creepy for TV.
I want to contribute to Puma but I’m not comfortable using a credit card on line, can I send you a check instead?
Has everyone seen this link yet on his flip flop of withdrawing the Iraq troops? Forgive me if this one is old news to everyone — as I only saw this link for the first time today:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2kFrFIFizkU
OnlyHill#80, absolutely!
email me at murphy@pumapac.org for mailing address.
Thank you!
RE: Obama out of system, but not out of character
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11211.html
“Obama has adopted the reform mantle when it’s been convenient, but his rejection of public financing isn’t his first such reversal this cycle. In late December in Iowa, his campaign manager, David Plouffe, fiercely attacked former the “big interests” — mostly labor unions — that poured a “flood of Washington money” into the state in “underhanded” efforts to support his rivals. Obama himself mocked John Edwards’ inability to stop the spending as a sign of weakness.’
I will contribute $100 between now and July 20th. I will donate more if I can.
Anyway will do what I can to help our voices to be heard.
I like the 1st one but the 2nd one is kind of radical to me….just my personal opinion. I think if it was tweaked some…not look so ominous….even though that’s what I think of BO.
Great Work Everyone! Just wanted to drop in and say I’m with you until the end. I love Hillary, but cannot listen to her in regards to B.o. . Will be voting Hillary 08 or Mccain 08 in Nov. No B.o. under any circumstance.
Please read today’s article at http://www.savagepolitics.com about the countless flip flops of the “presumptive nominee” some great ammunition.
I am but a poor college student…but I’ll see how much money I can scrape up within in the next month, I would love to see PUMA ads on TV.
I know the first two are just examples, but I don’t think we should go in that direction with ads. The first video just looks like a plain ol’ general election ad, and the second video is just too weird for people to get.
I think we should openly reach out to former Hillary supporters. Show examples of the media’s sexism, show how the DNC treated the Clintons, etc.
One great clip to look up and use in a commercial is from Hardball with Chris Matthews (A Clinton hater, of course). The day after New Hampshire, one of Obama’s surrogates was on the show, saying that racism had something to do with how the state voted.
WOW I would love to see these ads hit the TV screen. They are as shocking as Obama. He gives me the creeps. He is the one that will destroy us all if we give hin the chance . I will donate $100 and more just to see him lose in November.
Fox News
http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=0ef7084e-3110-4649-8fba-baac7a43dd84
Re: Hypocrisy
Obama bypasses public money — 1st since Watergate
By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer Thu Jun 19, 7:27 PM ET
“Though it opens him to charges of hypocrisy, Obama’s fundraising decision was hardly a surprise, given his record in raising money from private sources. Some $85 million in public money is available to each major party nominee during the fall campaign if they agree to forgo other contributions.”
Ad ideas:
1) Hillary & OB together from one of the debates - highlight a foreign policy issue such as meeting unconditionally with Cuba & Tehran
2) OB “Sweetie” & “Hillary, you’re likable enough:
Help spread the word…
Miami, FL protest - Let’s make some noise when Obama comes to speak at the US Mayor Conference tomorrow.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pb6fPoHJyFY
Tomorrow, Saturday, June 21 10 AM
Intercontinental Hotel
Biscayne Blvd @ 1st ST Chopin Plaza
Miami, FL
I like the first ad. I think Obama will do himself in. Hillary is doing what she has to do. I am sure she is getting alot of pressure. I did contribute to help Hillary pay off her debt, but will someone briefly explain what happens if her debt is not paid off. Do we have any idea how much? I also will give my $100. next week.
I like 58states1 idea about advertising in local newspapers.
RE: Move-on shuts down 527 operations.
The advocacy group has decided to permanently end its 527 group partly in response to Obama’s insistence such groups not spend on his behalf.
http://thepage.time.com/2008/06/20/moveon-to-shut-down-527-operation/
Hi PUMAs
We’ve got a problem.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/06/19/2008-06-19_hillary_clinton_struggles_with_debt.html
anonymous
I think we need to get organized by state, establishing PUMA groups in each. Anaylze the need in that state, dollars to be allocated, and how to get the best bang for our buck. I’m in PA heysandie@gmail.com
I think that PUMA site is an Obama blogger usurping our name PUMA in order to trap and try to get Hillary supporters over to the dark side. Its well documented that Obama’s bloggers are stealing online identities of Hillary supporters, such as riverdaughter, Uppity Woman, etc. and then blogging under their names that they have seen the light. Is PUMA by anychance copyrighted? If so, you may have legal recourse. Either way, this is a deliberate attempt to besmirch the PUMA name and confuse the public. We really do need to do something about this.
# 95 anonymous
While I respect your viewpoint, I don’t see any problem for us. Hillary wil be all right. Many will, privately, help her retire her debt. Propaganda piece, I believe, to rake in money for BO. By the way, I did contribute to Hillary’s website after her “exit.”
This is a clip of Mike Huckabee making fun of HBO. I hope you’ll enjoy it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2PC8Zy2n7A
anonymous
#98 heysandy
Are you sure that it’s only gossips? I hope so. You just made me feel a lot better. Thank you,
anonymous
#98 heysandy
I usually worry about everything I run across. Thank you for your comments. I got in on Hillary’s call yesterday. I hope a lot of you guys joined too. She was amazing as always. I greatly enjoyed it.
anonymous
#95 - I truly believe it is up to the winner side to help her to retire the debt - if they are ture winner. If not, we really got a huge problem.
anonymous #100
I believe it’s a tactic, just my opinion, mind you. Hillary is between a rock and a hard place right now, and I believe she’s saying what she needs to say. I also believe OB & the DNC are trying to thwart our momentum and divert our direction and purpose by making us feel sorry for Hillary. The more we contribute to her (OB), the less we can do here.
Good Afternoon PUMAS,
I just wanted to let you all know that I love the ads. I really wish that we could air this on my local television station. We cover quite a bit of WV, eastern KY, and South Eastern OH. Hillary’s support her was at least 75% or higher in our coverage area. My mom has a dr appt at our local VA hospital and the nurses are as mad as we are. I have given mom this site and I’m telling her to have them to organize with us. We have had several disgruntled voters writing in to the Letter to the Editor section of our local newspaper (The Herald-Dispatch). If we could get someting in print or aired on television, I believe that we will have a huge impact on the people. My family is strapped for money right now, that I simply cannot afford to contribute at this time. The bills, gas prices and food prices have put us in such a bad way right now. I am currently unemployed right now and can’t seem to find a job. I also have an autistic twin brother that has a seizure disorder and it is really hard to find a job close to home. I have been sending letters and emails to just about everyone. I do do whatever necessary to help Murphy with the West Virginia page. I can be contacted at mpayton23@yahoo.com. My mom also said that she would like to purchase 4 PUMA buttons. We feel that this is a very form of advertisement of the PUMA cause. I want one of the bracelets to wear. I have a pink one with “HILLARY 2008″ and have not parted with it since the beginning of the primaries. PUMA would look great with it!! Thanks so much for the people here and all of the great work and fundraising so far. I look forward to donating in the future. Thanks again!
Melissa
Wayne County, WV
PUMA Democrat
Murphy, while you are asking for a commitment of $100, couldn’t you add that those who can’t give that much, for them to give as much as they can? I can’t give so much in one month, I am so sorry.
Aren’t scenes from the 2nd video taken from a famous Superbowl commercial ? I am trying to remember the sponsor. Maybe Nike? Showing my age for remembering the commercial.
One book will retire her debt I am not worried about some one like the Clintons they could be Billionaires if theydidn’t care about people and thier country look at William Buffett thier close friend and Bloomberg I think the Clintons will be fine that is just more bs to make them look like losers so will by the vp Obama has in mind no problems .
Hillary has to do what she has to in order to pay her debt and avoid the blame for Obama’s crash and burn in November.
And we must do all we can to prevent the cash machine from rolling into the White House.
I agree with Sandy that we should organize and also join forces with other Hillary supporters that are scattered all over the internet.
#102 SparkforHill
With all due respect. Hillary is not for sale and shouldn’t be beholden to bo having retired her debt! That would be a big mistake and she knows it.
Hello, everyone,
I think this is a great PAC and I am pleased with the work that has been done by so many generous people on this site. Bravo! I would like to make a comment, however, that goes to our credibility and our image as we move forward. I know it has been said before, but I would like to restate my opinion. I feel very strongly that communicating hate messages, suspiciousness, and accusations towards others who may not believe exactly as we do is harmful to our collective cause. I don’t think that we garner respect or gain allies by calling them names. In my opinion, we need to remain dignified, articulate and focused otherwise I am afraid we will not be able to communicate the seriousness of our message and gain the respect for which we strive. I am not speaking for all, just for myself, however, I think I would have to distance myself from a group that becomes dominated by the attitude I have described. With that said, I also need to say that so many here have stepped up to the plate and been so very generous with their time, ideas, and enthusiasm. I don’t want to see that self-destruct. Thank you all for your hard work!
#102 heysandy
I know that Hillary is in a tough situation right now. I tend to believe everything. I HOPE that she won’t take the VP position. There’s no way that I would vote for HBO even if she’s on the ticket, and I am really sorry to say that.
anonymous
News: Latina Lawmakers Dodge an Obama Unity Appeal
http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/3643
Hillgirl # 109
I agree with you completely. Can you site specific instances of hate messages, etc.? I will not purport the Koolaid theme, for one. I think we are the group you’d like us to be, overall.
#110 anonymous
AMEN!!
FYI- A must read! David Brooks, columnist of the New York Times- The Two Obamas:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
I missed this one somehow, too. This is definitely something to respond to (in general)
http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/3633/context/archive
Hillary and her debt…I think if her website were to be left alone and they did declare the winner of the t-shirt contest, she might raise some money. She is getting nothing now as she isn’t allowed to really fundraise.
#113 heysandy
Thank you.
I wanted to post this to make you and PUMAs laugh. This is YouTube video of Ellen visiting Hillary’s rally in Washington DC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A9DkhPiEvc&feature=related
anonymous
#95 RETIRING HILLARY’S DEBT - NO TO BO-
My response posted at NYDaily [I corrected my NYT by saying NY Daily and others like the NYT]. I had to change my moniker because I forgot my password or else it would not work:
aTypical White Woman Jun 20, 2008 1:02:50 PM Report Offensive Post
Please, Hilary Clinton has not received funds yet because her official website was taken over by Obamabots; and we were afraid that if we contributed there that the money would go for purposes that we did not want - to help Obama - we want Obama defeated. We are fundraising in different groups in different areas to retire Hillary’s [our debt because she campaigned for US]. But, there is one thing that we do NOT want: WE DO NOT WANT HILLARY TO RELY ON OBAMA TO RETIRE HER DEBT: we do not want her beholdened to him in anything or in any fashion. Sit tight, [NYDaily] NYT, and watch us at work - and it is all through grassroots. P.S. Why has the [NYDaily] NYT either condoned, perpatrated, or been silent about the sexism and misogyny directed at HIllary , and through her, to every American woman. It has even caught the attention of those in other countries - we know because they correspond with us their disgust - must not be that way in some other countries, huh?
Heysandy,
Nothing in particular. Just every now and then I know we all get frustrated and perhaps want to lash out–I have done it too! Every now and then as I am looking around the internet I see comments and it makes me think that I don’ t want this group to become what we say we don’t like in other camps. Just a cautionary note so that the people we want to reach don’t turn us off. And, let me say again, that I agree this is a great group!
Suggestions for Action Items:
Send a cut out doll empty suit with tabs attached to the DNC with “One of 18 million that will not vote for an empty suit. PUMA”
Send a picture of a Hawaiian Shirt to the DNC to go along with the flip-flops of the selected one
#111 GOOD, I was hoping to hear that. Latinos have been dissed by the Obama train as well, remember?
They are a growing group, and they speak in such eloquent terms and are soft spoken, most of the time,
like Teddy, they walk softly but carry a big stick. And believe me, they have put that stick right on top of the head of the DNC and Dean! Unfortunately, the DNC/Dean/RBC/Pelosi/Reid/Brazile had their strategy formulated long ago and are too stupid to see the light of day. We need Latinos here, as well as other groups.
#115 The day after Hillary’s “suspension” speech I received an email from Emily’s list and it stated they would back Obama since he was the nominee and Hillary had asked us to do so. I personally vote for person not party (if I did vote party there is absolutley no way I could vote Obama). I unsubscribed to Emily’s list at that point.
#109 Hillgirl
I think perhaps I am one of the contributors who has used inappropriate words. Thanks for reminding me to take the high road in comments. Vulgarity and racial slurs are deplorable, and show disrespect for our principles. I get intense and sometimes use colorful adjectives. I apologize. Oh, I NEVER used vulgarity or racial slurs. What I was referring to was my calling BO a Diabolic Upstart. I really hesitated over saying that in print. Then regretted it once I saw it posted.
#112 heysandy #109 hillgirl- just a couple of examples - I also agree completely with hillgirl.
“I think he’s an ugly man especially those ears - looks like a black ross perot”
“[snip] We in America have spent years trying to rid ourselves of B.O. and now you want to shower us in it! Little deodorant picture by the slogan.”
#96 heysandy on 06.20.08 at 1:37 pm: “I think we need to get organized by state, establishing PUMA groups in each.”
Great idea - I’m in eastern PA (Monroe County).
#109
Looks like to me that there may be two sub-groups here: a pacafist group, and an non-pacafist group if those are the right words- probably better words to be used but they elude me at the moment. After all, this is a 527 group, right? And if there are two sub groups, we are working in direct opposition to each other, and that is not a good thing.
Maybe Murphy could kind of give us a break down of how many are in each category, so we can make informed decisions. I wish we had done this before, actually.
I posted this last night, in the wrong thread (again) ug.
This piece entitled “Analysis: Obama chose winning over his word”, topped off my evening quite nicely.
This line sums it up:
“Every time Obama’s change rhetoric meets his actual change record it evaporates in a cloud of hypocrisy.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080619/ap_on_el_pr/obama_money_analysis
#60
That link is huge. Did everyone see that? It appears an Obamatron is pretending to be a PUMA and denouncing the PUMA’s who won’t follow OBAMA. How do we counter?
(Can’t believe I am finally logged in. Thanks to Murphy for her kind late-night help last night!)
Like others, I don’t like the second ad at all. I find the gradual blackening of the white figure to have racist overtones. Also I don’t care for its castration (?). There is a good idea in there but this ad would damage our cause in a big way.
The first ad isn’t bad, but in our society, numbers need to be a lot bigger to overwhelm. (Remember the collective shrug when the Clintons revealed their $109 million income?) Also, the closing image is not very effective because the type in the boxes is too small to read. Maybe use big dollar signs instead?
I’m really glad we are going to do ads! The ad-makers might find further inspiration here:
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWE1NzgxYThlZTVjNGEzZmMzOGY5Mjg5NzEyOGNkY2Y=
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTNlYTQyNWM3NGVjYjUzZDkzNjI2YzQwM2NkMDhmOTE=
and I said it in print again. Sometimes I send a posting without thinking it through. I just didn’t want you to think I had been crude in any of my postings.
#109 Hillgirl
Thank you for your comments. It’s so important that our behavior reflect the greatness that Hillary inspires in us. We want to do Hillary proud.
Additionally, we don’t want our message to be lost due to poor presentation. The more intelligently and politely we phrase our message, the more we will be respected and listened to.
#126 ShortTermer on 06.20.08 at 2:24 pm
Sorry, I don’t understand your comment - please explain.
ShortTermer #126
Does a 527 group have to be hateful?! Perhaps I don’t understand what you’re saying and am missing the point. I’ve never been this politically active before, so perhaps I am ignorant on this issue.
#130 Firebelle Puma - That’s exactly how I feel. The more our name gets out there the more people come to the blog. I don’t want newcomers to read derogatory remarks and get turned off and never come back. I came here because I was tired of the O trolls being so negative on most other blogs and I don’t want this blog to fall into the same trap.
This is a must read for the day!!!!!!!!! Had me angry, teary eyed, proud, depressed, happy, and laughing all in the span of a single blog article. What a great piece.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/to-barack-obama-if-you-won-it-win-it/
Ok I just donated my $100.00 . We need a money meter to see how close we are getting to our goal.
#133 NotFallingInLine and my friend, Firebelle #130
AMEN, again!!
I like both of the ads. Love the Apple Computer ad.
Will contribute as soon as I resolve a recent issue with PayPal. should be concluded by next week, hopefully.
Ageist, sexist, misogynist, racist, looksist slurs should be non-existent. Be the change you want to see.
I don’t think shorttermer means you have to be hateful but you do perhaps have to be forceful. the same way that powerful women are accused of being b@#%*^s is because you usually have to be very assertive to get what you want. you can’t be a wallflower. do you understand what i mean? and also one of my favorite phrases is “it is what it is” and i believe in calling it like i see it which might not always be the most flattering depiction of someone but nonetheless it is what it is.
Murphy and my Puma family, I am trying to live on 624.00 a month disability, but I thank those who have donated their 100.00 and more.
While I am unable to donate monitarily I will continue to write letters and support my Puma family in other ways.
Thanks to all who donated! I am so proud of each and every one of you! God Bless the Pumas and God Bless America!
P.S. # 135 StarDust, I think a money meter is a great idea, I love watching those numbers grow!!!
PS I don’t think we should use derogatory terms for Obama supporters in any of our formal communications. They detract from our primary (no pun) message and sound juvenile and schoolyard-ish.
# 125 Mart in PA I’m in Southwest PA, 20 miles north of Pittsburgh.
#138 sheila7 I’m nobody’s wallflower and tell it like it is, believe me! But there’s no room, or need, for disrespectful, dismissive, or hateful speech … anywhere, by anyone.
I like the ads but I think we need to make sure that we don’t duplicate the things that the Republicans will be covering in their ads. We need to target the Hillary Clinton supporters that haven’t seen the “real” Obama and think that it’s ok to vote for him.
We need to have an ad that exposes Obama and his campaign’s sexist behavior towards Hillary. Show the sexist comments from the media and no defense from the Dems.
Another ad could show how the Democratic leaders and the DNC manipulated the primary. Maybe showing Pelosi saying “will of the people” then changing it to more delegates and all the Dems pressuring Hillary to quit prematurely.
Unfortunately I contributed far more then I could really spare to Senator Clintons campign. As soon as I replenish the bank roll however I WILL donate here. This man and his army of obamazoid thugs MUST be stopped!!!!!
Has anyone written to superD’s today?
Wow good afternoon Pumas, it is hard to get a word in here lol….couple of things, count me in for $100 before the deadline, and I really like #1 as a commercial, #2 if frankly scary……Did anyone see Geraldine Ferrarro on Hannity last night, she was able to defend noname up to a certain point, but said that she is still a Hillary supporter, she could not say she supported him but was just focused on her support for Hillary, interesting.
I like the idea to get the Pumas organized by state. Question, did this used to be party unity my ass?, or is that a separate group? Sometimes I have a hard time remembering what this Puma actually says?
#138 sheila - forceful - by all means. Forceful and classy. Just like Sen. Clinton.
Murphy, can you give us some guidelines about language expressions and inappropriate statements? I’ve been thinking about this, and I don’t want to be afraid to write, questioning everything I say. If I know what is permissible I can moderate my comments myself, without you having to take me to task…which you never did with anyone, but I would hate to be the first. Then we can write in the same vein and create a good impression.
141 heysandy,
i didn’t mean to imply that you or anyone here is a wallflower so i’m sorry if it sounded that way. i agree that there is no reason to be hateful but i just have noticed a trend where it does seem to be several type of pacifists here. i’m not saying there is anything wrong with being like that, i think shorttermer just means that to achieve our goals we need to be non-pacifists. maybe i’m wrong and that’s not even what she meant. anyway, i think everyone here is great and if everyone was the same it would be a boring world so i didn’t intend to offend anyone, i was just trying to maybe articulate what she meant by that.
I’d like to see and ad that shows him plagiarizing a speech. It really exposes him as being phony.
I like the first ad. The second ad makes me feel like a bad trip on LSD (not that I would know) but I think Obama’s people would feel right at home with it.
I like #96 heysandy’s idea of organizing by state. Who else is from PA and where?
There is new Action news on the Action Link
as far as the ads go, i really like number 1, i can’t watch number two, it keeps telling me that it is no longer available. this has happened to me several times on videos from here but not anywhere else. i think maybe i’m being hacked.
If politics was like basketball, Obama and his teammates would have been ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct.
Alas, it’s up to Hillary’s supporters to show the world what sportsmanship is. And we can do that while still making shots and going for the win.
#148 gina - We had a youtube video up recently, was it Flineo? He had O and Deval Patrick cut side-by-side and showed how O was using exactly the same words. There is so much material documenting how unfit O is to be our prez it wouldn’t even fit into one ad.
It would be great if PUMApac could join forces with other “Just Say No Deal” groups for the fund raising efforts and in creating the ads, etc. That would open up more possibilities for rasing big money and connecting with the right people for making big projects happen.
As far as the video content… probably what’s more effective for TV ads is elucidating specific issues and those ‘negatives’ about BO that can make people concerned and hesitant about voting for him. The videos posted yesterday also were good… and that one called “Strange Bedfellows” from the other day too. They are great “models” for TV ad productions.
Airing them in the critical swing states, where (at least at this time) the race appears to be so close is the best use of the money!
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to let you know that the Sierra Club endorsed BO today. You can read more about their endorsement by going to http://www.sierraclub.org. I have been a member of this organization for years. I received an e-mail from its director, Carl Pope, asking Sierra Club members to pledge their time to help elect BO. I will never volunteer my time to help the supposed Democratic presidential candidate and I plan on telling both the national Sierra Club office and the local one (if they ever directly ask for our services to help BO) what I think of their endorsement. I tried calling the national office to leave a message but I haven’t been able to get through.
Just wanted to let you know what was going on. They plan on using existing organization to help their cause.
Best,
Lara08
Ok, now someone is trying to tell Heidi Li that her blogs are ‘devisive’! What in the world…
This women is about as straight a shooter in the blogging world, telling what she’s doing, what she knows, what she’s got planned, and how she’s going to do and she’s being called devisive?? I swear, BO is the absolute KING of devisiveness and yet a woman who is striving very hard to help Senator Clinton be able to pay off her campaign debts to vendor and consultants should be applauded, not attacked as devisive!
Visit Heidi Li’s blog and give her some love PUMAs (leave a comment of reassurance and thanks in her blogs).
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/
And while you’re there, how about donating through one of her ‘PAY DOWN THE DEBT’ links (which go directly through Senator Clinton’s donation page). How about we help her reach the $10,000 dollar doantion mark by end of the weekend!
Sorry, this carp just tees me off when I read stuff like this about totally good people.
I prefer video #1. I really did not like #2, and I don’t feel a lot of people would “get it”.
Murphy - I understand from some several posts here that not all of us are able to donate $100. So, I would like to commit to donate an additional $50 for someone who wants to with all their heart, but doesn’t have it in their wallet to give.
Anyone able to match my extra $50?
Hi Pumas,
Donated my $100. I think both ads have merit, but I’d like to see an ad that counters OB’s new “cornfed Kansas” ad Have you all seen it? It is such a piece of malarkey! I just want to puke when I watch it knowing what he did during this campaign! An ad showing his “true” roots would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8sgz_JSEPY
New AOL Poll is up. Mac is kicking butt so far.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/20/aol-straw-poll-june-20-27/
Murphy,
Helppppppp! I’m moderating!!!!!!!!
#146 LilyMaid
Although sometimes I fall short of my own ideals, I use the following to guide me …
One, I think about how I have felt as a Hillary supporter visiting other blogs where Obama supporters speak out. Some are respectful enough that I can read what they have written and consider their point of view. Many are disrespectful enough that I can’t even stomach reading their posts. I don’t want to be like the latter.
Two, I think about what I would say if I were talking face-to-face with a friend who supports Obama, as was the case last night. I care far more about my friends than I do about Obama, Hillary, or this election. So when I post on the blogs, I try to imagine expressing my point of view without hurting the feelings of my friends who support a different candidate.
Do I slip sometimes on the blogs? Sure. Am I sometimes less objective than I should be? Yep. But when I’m really on my game, this is what guides me.
I hope this helps.
I won’t be able to donate that much as I am on disability. I will give what i can Tho.
My 2 cents worth about the ads. Obama’s ads always seemed to work well when he came back at Hillary for another AD. I also think we have to use his words against him. His supporters do not react well to any kind of smearing, so staying focused on his flip flops is probably going to work the best. Just my thoughts.
Kiki17 #21 I enjoyed the you tube of the Obama supporter’s hesitation about voting for no name. I think we will see more and more of that from the college crowd as they seem to be more informed.
Good day to all!
mart in PA…I really want to contribute, and will now go and add my $50. THANKS. It was hard to admit my limited income, but I did want to help.
Again, thanks…mart in PA. Transaction completed.
Hello, again, everyone. I appreciate the thoughtful discussion about how to present our ideas. I would like to add, if I might. I think that we can be committed, focused, and send a strong message without being hateful. I agree with whoever said that Hillary is a prime example of someone who is strong, principled and sends a clear message without being nasty. I don’t think this means we can’t take firm exception with those principles that we protest, but it is the way in which we do it. Thanks again for the discussion–I am most appreciative
Just donated a bit, and will send more when i can.
The gift that keeps on giving.
http://tinyurl.com/5894oq
#149 Yeah Stardust, not that I would ever know either (LOL)..but the first one hits where I think we should first attack, Everyone understands who’s behind the man!! Who the money people are, the Special Interest Groups that BO is taking …I would like to get Soros, and Rezko, and a few other felons in there.
I agree with heysandy #38 that we should do an ad that focuses on Hillary. It will keep her in the spotlight, reinforce she is the popular vote leader and send a message to the SD that we want the elected candidate as the Democratic nominee.
Sorry Evy (#114)…
… but I’ll not read anything coming from two-faced Brooks anymore. He lost his credibility with me (as did most of the media) the minute he joined in on the ratings bandwagon to bash Hillary Clin