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Good Morning PUMAs. Let’s all get to growling and growing!!!
Morning Pumas one and all
Howard Dean does not want to hear from us any more! Sigh, oh my!
He said that he received too many emails from our address and the limit had been exceeded. Maybe Donna Brazile can forward them to him. Ya think?
Barbara4Hill, BrooklynNY, pumaindy, hazel eye and others from the fabulous discussion last night in the top half of the 2am hour:
The media plays up the angle that women are angry because of what was done to Hillary, so much so that many in the public conclude that only women are angry about what was done to Hillary. Or worse: they conclude that women are angry because Hillary lost.
From your comments, it’s clear that you all clearly know the truth.
Many men are deeply devoted to Hillary and are not any less angry with the supposed leaders of the undemocratic Democratic Party and with the media for what they did to the true leader of the Democratic Party.
Good Morning All PUMAs!
H Dean doesn’t want to hear from us anymore? Hmm, seems to me he was also not interested in hearing from us up through May 31 either! Maybe give him a little time to clean up that mailbox so we can flood him with more letters again.
Today is my birthday. I only mention this since as instead of receiving gifts I feel so much better about giving instead. $25 to help bring dwon Hillary’s campaign debt and $25 here.
cjv,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
As for Dean, the second Dean letter for a new collective action is on the way! Elaine and I are working on the first Donna B letter. The second Dean letter will follow. As with the first Dean letter, we would want to send these all on the same day via email and fax from all across the country.
Two things need to happen in that action:
1st, THERE HAS TO BE MORE PARTICIPATION THAN THERE WAS IN THE FIRST. I think the first Dean letter was a great success, but the number of people who participate in the next Dean letter action has to increase for it to have success.
2nd, does anyone know if Dean was other emails and fax numbers other than the ones that we used last time? We want to be sure that he’s got nowhere to hide from us!
#5 Knoxville Puma
How about also sending the letters through the DNC “Contact Us” page?
Perhaps sending copies to the RNC would be a good idea too. Why not share our talking points with them?
When you are ready with that letter, would it make sense to post the blog to speciically reinforce the need for action from us as some posts did just do that? Yet, it may be timing as I had a tough time dring the work week to keep pace. Maybe post thee types of initiatives at the start of the weekend as during the work week it may be tougher for folks to take time to help in participation.
that shows that dean´s clan does not care a bit about anyone, they are cooking something else differnt, heavens know, I suspect not too good, it seems they only care about their contestatary social movement
Knoxville Puma
I’ve know about the men all along, but it sure is nice hearing you say it. Thanks.
You made me smile when you suggested we find other ways to get Dean mail. Devious.
Waiting for my baby grandson to get up. I had him overnight. Hurray! He has the sweetest of hearts.
Anyway, beginning the day with a smile sets the right tone.
Good morning Puma’s. Ok get your claws out…go to confluence and read this :
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/friday-
the-us-senate-ladies-auxilliary-luncheon/#comment-49466
Time for some action on this..what do you think?
Another reason to smile…it is cjv’s birthday. Have a great one!
Good Morning all you wonderful Pumas!
If you want to experience some real hope and change this young man certainly offers a glimmer of reality setting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6LtKDwVo-o&eurl=http://www.bythefault.com/
Oh my, the typos are starting again already…
cjv
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
opps, I forgot to add in after setting:)
Uh oh. I hear raspberries coming from the crib. His Mom taught him how to do them. He practices a lot.
His parents are both teachers and Hillary supporters. But his Dad is in training for war this year because as part of the PA National Guard he goes to Iraq after Christmas. They know I am a PUMA and are surprised because I get so intense about it. I sent a copy of my Dean letter to my Republican sister in law. She sent me a one word reply…”BRAVO.”
Happy birthday cjv! Enjoy your day and do something that fills your heart with happiness. I am going to start off by donating to Hillary’s debt. I suggest we all donate at least $5.00 in honor of cjv’s birthday! I will donate $25.00 to get us started.
Clinton supporter Paula Abeles (democrat) is on Fox now and says she is supporting and campaigning for McCain because they share the same idealogy. Says she is getting harrassed because she has gone public. Obama staff has called her a racist and has been getting hate emails. However, she has also been getting some supportive emails from others. She gave out her email address asking for support, but I missed it. Perhaps we can contact Fox and get it.
Morning Joe is getting all kinds of hate emails from the O people because he’s ripping O over the broken campaign finance pledge. Maybe we need to send him some nice emails.
Hi, I want to contribute through purchasing the mugs and T-shirt. But I can’t figure out how to do it altogether. Anyone knows?
alee21 If you scroll down on the home page on the blog posts there is a section where you can link into purchasing the mugs or T Shirts.
Murphy – Is there a way we can keep that section towards the top of the home page?
Good Morning Everyone!
Happy Birthday CJV, many happy returns of your day!
DNC may have spammed all of our eMAIL addresses … would suggest when sending use a different address for each eMAIL mailing.
Have a PUMA day everyone … happy Friday and a great weekend to all!
Good Morning Pumas,
Here’s a good article on BO by David Brooks of NYT. Very critical of his tactics.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
Good Morning Everyone
Happy Birthday cjv! Hope it is a great one.
Just wanted to share something with who ever is on here the greatttttttttt morning. I do not get to get on here much but I am finding that there are SO many post (that is a “good thing”) but by the time I get thru them there are a hundred more. I miss alot of the stuff ppl are asking for or help with other than the regular stuff.
so:
1) I think someone (all4mygirl?) wanted ppl to get $ for ads in our local papers…..but I need to know what to say as to what type of ad we want placed.
Also which states are being considered swing states I know some of them but I hear diff about my state MN.
2) I did not see my name listed in the 2? groups of ltrs that went out about the 1,000 reasaon.
3) Knoxville – I left you a post that I was trying to get hold of the names/how voted at the DNC/BLC for FL & MI. Was also told it takes time to transcript and may not include the names just number of nay/yahs.
4) Is there a letter for ground troops to hand out because alot of the ppl I talk too do not have Internet and do we have a PO Box addy so ppl can mail donations to us.
5) Left message to murphy if ok if I revised the fold of the daily growl to go to trifold cause it allows for larger print (I want them to read every word) and fits nicely into a business #10 white envelope. Even get to put two PUMA symbols on it. Did not hear back. Will wait but I revised no wording just folding.
6) Did checking on wrist bands….found them to run from .23 to .50 each. Any color, 40 character or more wording, free shipping, embossed not printed. Thought this would be a great item to sell in our Puma Gear and good ratio for profit to help our site and actions.
Murphy or Mamapuma if you are out there let me know send you a email yesterday or day before.
So I welcome any feed back and will try to help as much as I can for as I said I can not get on here much but can work on things when I am not..
Thank you
and Thank you ALL for this wonderful site.
Go vote on OB’s flip-flop on public financing. Hypocrite is winning big time!
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/19/hot-seat-obama-and-public-financing/.
Happy Birthday cjv! Enjoy it.
good morning Murphy, it’s friday, that absolute best day of the week
I am really liking the AOl polls; since so many actual people are contributing, I think they are more representative of how people really think than the other polls you see out there. I voted on the above poll and 65% think Nobama is a hypocrite!!! Of course, Nobama is a hypocrite as well as a liar, panderer, etc., etc., but it’s nice to see a poll that actually shows this!!!
Just watched the Paula Abeles interview with Neil Cavuto at No Quarter. Link below. She didn’t mention the email address, but I had a thought. Since she’s putting it out there how evil the Obamabots are, maybe we should start collecting their nasty emails and when we amass enough, take them to Fox so they can do a story. The public needs to know what we already know about his campaign.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/20/paula-abeles-on-neil-cavuto-today/
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GM Everyone
I like the letter thing, but does it really help. I guess to a certain extent.
WE bombard the wrong people. They just ignor us!
We need more media attention. Maybe we can advertise, on a bill board, in downtown Chicago, right in his own back yard.
We’ll need to contact and reach out to big doners. Maybe these are the people we should be flooding with email asking for support.
Email People like us, in hire places, with money and contacts; not the people against us.
Riverdaughter’s editorial/commentary is outstanding. I printed out a copy for my mom to read, and she came back in the room stomping her feet, furious that the Teaparty Ten wanted Hillary to apologize to Obama. (I had to explain it was satire…) But think about it–didn’t you get that feeling at the end of the campaigns–that Obama’s folks were just indulging the little lady her time in the limelight, but they were checking their watches and tapping their feet?
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Other–Will donate $25 for WHATEVER it’s needed for. Waiting on my t-shirt to wear proudly in my city. Have printed out one of the flyers to distribute as well.
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Ways to communicate to Howie—skywriting? Get a van to follow him around that has one of those megaphones o top–make growling noises everywhere he goes?
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Order a set of those plastic animals people put in their friend’s yards when they have a birthday–hmmm, what animal would be appropriate?
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I’m sure we can find another way to express ourselves.
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And send Morning Joe support–he is often the lone voice of reason on that despicable show.
Happy Birthday, cjv!
#31 antifish on 06.20.08 at 8:34 am
Just watched the Paula Abeles interview with Neil Cavuto at No Quarter. Link below. She didn’t mention the email address, but I had a thought. Since she’s putting it out there how evil the Obamabots are, maybe we should start collecting their nasty emails and when we amass enough, take them to Fox so they can do a story. The public needs to know what we already know about his campaign
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Antifish
She was on fox this am about 7:30. She was great.
However I think we should make it clear to everyone … the main reason we are so upset is that this election was stolen from Hillary . Stolen stolen stolen.
That should be the operative word here.
Good Morning!
NOW has a Media Hall of Shame on its website dedicated to the misogyny towards Hillary. You can vote on the worst offenders and nominate your own.
Check it out.
Antifish Thank you. Hey did you notice on the result for the AOL poll on BO’s hypocrosy that only the DC area felt he was seizing his political moment? Likely Obamobots answering there!
Good Morning Puma’s!!!!
Sandipuma wrote last night “what’s the plan for making sure that there is not voter fraud, voting machine tampering and/or vote tally fraud?”
Does anyone know where to begin with this? I think we need to get our “paws” in a row for this angle. The media hasn’t touched it but we all know it happened especially in the caucuses. We’ve all heard anecdotal stories but we need some real evidence that is defined as voter fraud. Then what are the penalites etc. if one campaign/candidate is found guilty of such wrongdoing? To be honest, I barely knew anything before this year’s primary about caucuses. I live in an open primary state.
Morning 1of18million and All,
Today is a new day!
Email me at murphy@pumapac.org — I will respond promptly.
Pumas,
Great background report on OB!
http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/v1212187691.pdf
#37 – cjv – DC – Marion Barry – need I say more?
morning Pumas. Today IS a new day. Happy Birthday CJV. Off to work I go, but I’ll be Puma growling all day.
reply to #4,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, cjv!!!
Best Wishes to you!
Good Morning, PUMA Villagers
Happy Friday to you all!
Good morning. Wow, everyone is on top of it this morning.
As I was leaving for work this morning, Fox & Friends had a Clinton turned McCain supporter on. She was talking about how much hate mail and behavior she was getting from nobama supporters. She would like to hear from us.
I didn’t catch her name or email address…did anyone else.
1of18MilforHill08 – There’s an information brochure/flyer on the action center. I customized it for senior citizens or those without Internet access. I thought about a PO Box as well. The brochure is double-sided, tri-fold brochure. The picture of Clinton is the outside fold. I left the back fold basically blank except PUMA logo and website name for info to be added at a later date.
Happy Birthday CJV!!!
#32 PA guy – I agree. Maybe we should focus on the ‘top 100′ Hillary donors who are meeting with Obama next week. Not harass them but encourage them not to give him money. Show them that we’re not just 200 or 300 loons but that we are many and that we can make a difference.
#6 Firebelle Puma,
Send the 1 Donna B and the 2 Dean letters to the RNC… pure genious. I was thinking that I won’t try to contact the best known tv people next time, but more conservative journals. They’re more likely to talk about it. Neil Cavuto is becoming must-see tv for us! (That’s right, I said Neil Cavuto on Fox News.)
LilyMaid, the media tries to divide us by making this about women’s (righteous) anger. Well, nope. They shat on the true leader of the Democratic Party, and so they are part of the problem that we have to fix. We are all in this together. We’re taking our party back and making sure that no one ever messes with Hillary Clinton again. Count on it.
Hi antifish!
Good morning, everyone! Ah, second coffee’s ready.
#26 1of18MilforHill08 your number 2
Check in the third group. If you are not there, do not worry. Only 60 of the 1,000 Reasons have been sent. They were all sent yesterday, one-by-one with the goal of sending 60 a day until they are all sent.
However, Howard Dean does not want to get any more emails from me today. Oh well.
I am going to send them to Donna Brazile and ask her to forward them to Howard. I sure that she will not mind.
Post#47 – That’s an excellent idea. Who’s getting the contact info?
On the big time donors this is all I’ve been able to find.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00000019
Clintonwatch says they’re expecting about 200 to show up for the meeting. I’ll keep searching to see if there’s a better list.
Post #49 – Funny. Can we e-fax (pc to fax) the letters?
#35 Disenchanted says: “the main reason we are so upset is that this election was stolen from Hillary . Stolen stolen stolen.”
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I agree wholeheartedly. Having said that, let me take a minute to throw a perspective out that I have thought a lot about. I have been utterly baffled by this election cycle. I still cannot understand how so many have bought into the “change” hoopla for a totally inexperienced, unvetted candidate. One that has had a shrewd campaign strategy and has been able to mesmerize the masses and even the DNC leaders, it seems. So I have thought… what if majority of the SD’s had all gone over to Hillary when noname had the delegate lead?? ..Even if WE know it was underhandedly acquired, there would have been a mass cry of outrage from the obots about stealing the election. Right?
Well, I think we are in a unique position now with Hillary’s campaign in “suspension”. There are probably millions of noname supporters that are seeing him being vetted right before their eyes. Have a feeling there is a lot of buyers remorse out there…especially in the early caucus states. So the point is, as we push on to the convention and protest ALL the angles, disenfranchisement, mysogyny,sexism,voter fraud, and a presumptive nominee that lacks integrity and experience etc. ….we can be hopeful that some SANITY returns to the populus and to the voting delegates at the convention. When (let’s be positive) they watch the delegate vote at the convention roll over to the rightful owner of the nomination, our own Senator Hillary Clinton, what are the obots going to say then? They will have seen all this flip-flop nonsense and maybe, just maybe they will have to concur that Hillary is the best leader for the country. She would be the ultimate in comeback kids!!! The obots won’t be able to say a thing because noname would have had his few months in the sun……getting overexposed and suffering from a bad sunburn!!!
Maybe a bit of wishful thinking?
Craig is the guy who told the media that their hate of the Clintons is a mental illness.
He is very funny and fair and he kept telling everyone that the Clintons who how to win.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/
post 52 Sunny PA
you are a genius.
Now I have to figure out how to do it.
#51 I think some of these donors may have already crossed to BO. I though that I read somewhere that Microsoft attended, is going to attend, I just can’t remember the specifics of one of BO’s fundraising events.
#52 PC to fax. I have eFax which is exactly pc to fax. Maybe there’s something here I can do to help on that.
Good Morning PUMA Members
President Nixon was forced to resign because of Watergate. The famous phrase from that investigation was “follow the money.”
To follow the money for Obama leads to such names as ACORN, Woods Fund, Joyce Foundation, and Emil Jones Jr. Why are these names important? Obama sat on the boards and “may have” directed substantial money in grants to different liberal groups such as ACORN. Why is this significant? ACORN provided campaign volunteers for Obama’s earlier political campaigns.
His ties to ACORN include running training seminars for their leadership and followers and being part of a legal team that represented them on the”motor-voter” bill.
Emil Jones Jr. was the Illinois Majority Leader in 2002. Most of the bills that Obama takes credit for passed once the Democrats took power. Jones became Obama’s mentor and “appointed Obama sponsor of virtually every high-profile piece of legislation.” In effect, Obama took credit for laws that others had fought for.
How was Jones rewarded? Obama had earmarked pet projects worth tens of millions of dollars in Jones’s Senate District. “Follow the money” is our mandate.
Yesterday, I wrote 5 letters to uncommitted superdelegates in my state. I will send the other ten letters after work.
Look forward to reading your posts!
#45 Sunny PA
Thank you for the info on the on the ground troops for those ppl without internet, cable or seniors
Hope you are having a great day!
I just love him ..a man full of hope
Hopping that we are all def dumb and blind
He is so audaciously hypocritical
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2U1MWM4ZGE1YzIxN2U0NGRiMTkxN2YzMjY2OGU5ZDg=
I just love him ..a man full of hope
Hopping that we are all deaf dumb and blind
He is so audaciously hypocritical
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2U1MWM4ZGE1YzIxN2U0NGRiMTkxN2YzMjY2OGU5ZDg=
reply to #25 – antifish,
hehehe.. it looks like he has thrown everything under the truck
someday, he will throw himself under the truck too and our Hill becomes the Nominee or McCain becomes our President!
Thank you MamaPuma with the info about the group of ltrs going to Howard “Beanhead”
#62 Huong on 06.20.08 at 9:37 am
reply to #25 – antifish,
hehehe.. it looks like he has thrown everything under the truck
someday, he will throw himself under the truck too and our Hill becomes the Nominee or McCain becomes our President!
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Huong
He doesn’t have to through himself.. he is driving the truck over the cliff and with it the reputation of DNC and every super(stupid)delegate with him.
#58 Eward…grat post. Are you forwarding that on to any major news networks?
Good morning, PumaPals!
Cards to Oprah going in the mail today.
Hey Pumas,
Announcing the Launch of the Puma PAC
Summer Fundraising ROAR!
to get Puma ads on tv and in local media markets in swing states this summer.
Click on the link, check it out, commit, and then come back here for today’s Open Thread.
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/06/20/puma-pac-fundraising-roar/
Bill Gates only donated to Obama and not Hillary so I think the evil empire was on his side to begin with. Those early Obama adopters we can surely ignore. It’s the real Hillary supporters who have not yet switched that we may be able to reach. http://www.campaignmoney.com/biography/bill_gates.asp
reply to #64 – disenchanted,
hehehe.. and then they (nobama, dnc and superstupiddelegates) all become the CLIFF HANGERS and together they scream “CAN’T HOLD ON MUCH LONGERRRRRRRRRRRR” hahaha
:D
oh zephyr-#53-what a wonderful dream
I think it was Mary Matalin who said that Obama’s speeches are like Chinese food…an hour later you can’t remember what he said…
I just voted against the hypocrit…….who is loosing big time in every state.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/19/hot-seat-obama-and-public-financing/
Morning PUMAs – TGIF.
Thanks Clinton/Gore years, for the fast spreading of Internet.
Now Puma PAC becomes Information rich to many voters.
“Freedom of speech” is indeed one part of how this Country is founded.
The election is really about the People, the will of People. Democracy is a process, for those party officials who ignore again and again the will of people, would be placed in a BAD long term situation.
When you are in the position long enough, you forget how you get there, you make decision based on your own preference, listen to your young teenage kids, young daughter… you have to ask yourself how I got elected for? There many people do not understand why you do that and your image is not good in people’ mind, such as that MO Senator, every time I see her on MSNBC… How much $ she got from him?
Will of people, not fool of people and burden them for your bet. Gas/Inflation is high, many lost houses and jobs, college student had highest loan rate ever… But yet, they might still asked to contribute as they did in Primary to put him in the Office…
Good Morning, Fellow PUMA cats!
I see we’re early to work here!
CJV- Happy Birthday!
Murphy, Mamapuma, Brian and Everyone else (too many of you to list individually
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The site is looking amazing! The progess is wonderful! Thank you all so much for all your good work! I appreciate it so much!
Brian – Is the 1000 letters project still ongoing? I don’t think I’ve participated in it yet. How do I do that? So much info on earlier blogs I just can’t remember where it was first described….I want to participate in that, if we’re still collecting….
And also Brian….Yes, we know and appreciate so much all our friends with that Y chromosome who are such wonderful people!
The flyers, postcards, pamphlets, etc. are fantastic! So many talented people here!
Question: Is there a snailmail address I can use to send my donation? If so, please post it. I want to do that today.
A suggestion re: the letters to Dean that he is refusing -
Why don’t we look on the DNC website and get a list of all DNC officers and start sending the cards to them, one by one, in a random order, until we fill up their email like we did Dean and they have to block us or whatever they do?
I also think we should start targeting those DNC people sitting on the fence, those who “went along to get along” – with some kind of a sympathetic mailing, something to let them know there are a lot of people not happy with what they’re doing….and really po’d at Dean & Co. That might help to give them a little encouragement to speak up and act to counter Dean, Pelosi, et al? i.e something to the effect, it’s not too late to stand up for democracy and do the right thing. Make the founding fathers proud…How ’bout pictures of Uncle Sam looking very displeased on a letterhead, or some other former great historical figure who fought bravely to establish freedom, democracy, etc. A little reminder for them, sprinkled with a little dose of healthy shaming….
I’m going to be in and out all day, but I’ll be checking the site periodically to see what’s going on…..
Carry on, PUMAs!
Zephyr
I blogged this information on a Pro*61 magazine website. However, I might email Brian Ross of ABC News and Lisa Myers of NBC with this information. They are both top investigative reporters. It was Lisa that had Obama’s realtor on record that the house and lot had to be sold together. Later the homeowner denied it, but not on camera.
Obama should have been vetted long ago. The key is finding journalists that are willing to dig deeper.
#68 NotFallingInLine on 06.20.08 at 9:46 am
Jerry Seinfeld’s wife also donated to Hillary only. Check out http://www.opensecrets.org. You can plug in a name or a zip code, state, etc. and find out who donated and how much….It’s a fabulous site, well organized and easy to navigate. Check it out.
OMIGOSH, those nobama commercials/ads are unbelieveable … amazing. They will be so effective. I can’t wait to see them on national television. Especially the subprime lenders/contributors ad.
GREAT JOB MURPHY!!!
CNN’s political ticker posted my comment to the story “AP: Edwards makes Obama’s VP list”
Knoxville NObama
June 20th, 2008 9:26 am ET
Edwards–a man we could all respect–stabbed Hillary Clinton in the back and betrayed the true Democratic Party. He knew better, but got in line. Barry and the undemocratic Democratic Party can have him.
Puma PAC
[Sorry to any die-hard Edwards supporters... I liked him, too...]
MURPHY, someone calling him-/herself “Murphy” has started posting pro-Obama comments over there. As your name does not have the same meaning over there as it does here, I say ignore it. Just thought you’d like to know that you’re known and feared!
I found a perfect campaign song for our Waffle
Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON4KBqk3kak
#57 cjv
Can you please send me an email at MamaPumaMass@aol.com so that I can write back to you with the problem
Thanks so much
Pumas are wonderful
CNN’s political ticker posted my comment to the story “AP: Edwards makes Obama’s VP list”
Knoxville NObama
June 20th, 2008 9:23 am ET
The selected nominee is taking the true leader of the Democratic Party out for a spin on the trail, eh? No matter. True Democrats are uniting to stop him from tightening his grip on our party. Believe that. Count on it.
Puma PAC
CORRECTION:
#81 is my comment to the story “Clinton and Obama to hit the trail together”
#74 BrooklynNY
Anyone who did not write a 1,000 Reasons Puma Democrats are Protesting the 2008 Primaries can write one and send it to me at MamaPumaMass@aol.com.
Short is better.
Addressed to Howard Dean
Signed with first name and city, state
(con’d from #76)
You can also see how much money the campaigns have in their coffers, how much they’ve spent, collected in short term, long term, etc.
There’s even a listing by congressman, senator,etc., how much money each one got from the DNC. That was quite enlightening. Obama’s campaign sprinkled a lot of money liberally to many colleagues. Clinton gave some too, but nowhere near as much as BO did. As they say, follow the money…..
CJV
I forgot to say happy birthday. I was watching flood victims on TV yesterday and one young woman lost her house and everything in it. The tears were pouring down her face. It made me think we are soooo fortunate – even when things go bad.
Celebrate your very special day today! Enjoy!
There’s a great comment on CNN’s political ticker to the story “Clinton and Obama to hit the trail together.” Did one of us post it?
Way To go Obama
June 20th, 2008 9:23 am ET
“Follow me sheep…… I do not support NAFTA…..Well, maybe i do just a little. Follow me sheep…….I will get the troops out of Iraq……..Well, things are looking good maybe they will stay. Follow me sheep…….I will hold dialogue with all leaders in the thought of love and peace………..Barack Obama said Wednesday that he would possibly send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB Pakistan Isnt that envading a soverign country?…………. Follow me sheep…………………. I will not raise taxes…………..Well ,maybe just a little
Change You Can Believe IN”
Brooklyn: Sorry I missed the conversation last night. I will have to answer your questions a little later. Would you please email me? knoxvillepuma@gmail.com
Thanks!
#47 NotFallingInLine
Remember the letter that 20 of Hillary’s supporters sent to Nancy Pelosi, about withholding donations to the DNC? I’m researching the names and email addresses of at least those 20. Will post them as soon as I’m done.
#83 MamaPuma on 06.20.08 at 10:13 am
Thank you for the info! Is there a prepared list of reasons or do we write our own? Do we list only one reason…..please if you could, fill me in on format & content you’re looking for…I know it’s been described somewhere but I just don’t remember where….
#84 Isn’t that sad? And now they’re all shocked. Shocked! That he would turn down campaign financing. Maybe people will now finally believe what we keep telling them.
#67 murphy on 06.20.08 at 9:45 am
Hey Pumas,
Announcing the Launch of the Puma PAC
Summer Fundraising ROAR!
to get Puma ads on tv and in local media markets in swing states this summer.
Click on the link, check it out, commit, and then come back here for today’s Open Thread.
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Murphy
You took the idea right out of my head last night.
I think this occasional daily fund raising drives are great.
It will give us a way to see how many people will be able to give and how much we will be able to raise.
I am personally waiting for my daughter to help me give through pay pal.
I am hoping she will set it up for me today. Still trying to learn this computer business.
Gotta run for now….I’ll be checking back in a little while..
Happy birthday CJV. I mailed my Opra cards this morning. I was disappointed that my post office did not have PUMA stamps. I am also concerned about voter fraud. I live in Missouri and always give Mccaskill a piece of my mind when I receive an e-mail from her.
At 3 o’clock last night, EWard posted a comment on Emil Jones and on Obama’s comfort-level with being the beneficiary of cronyism and corruption since the beginning of his political career. Earlier this morning (9:33am above), EWard provided some more great info.
Are there any Pumas out there who know more about Emil Jones or other BO friends who appear to have been using him for years, or just about Obama’s not-so-stellar career in Illinois before 2004 in general?
Please share your knowledge, insights and opinions about the early years of the politician who has been packaged into Obama Almighty.
Posted at 10:56pm on Jun. 19, 2008 2 Freshman House Ds From Fla. Ripe For Defeat
By pilgrim
Promoted from the diaries by Neil Stevens…
U.S. Reps. Ron Klein (left) and Tim Mahoney (right) join Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill. for ‘Let’s go Communist’ bill to be introduced by Rahm Emanuel, Maurice Hinchey, Ed Markey, and Nick Rahall as co-sponsors. This is what Maurice Hinchley said on the House floor June 19, 2008:
We (the government) should own the refineries. Then we can control how much gets out into the market.
On Ron Klein’s website he writes:
I am working to pass legislation
that gives the oil companies an ultimatum: “Drill It or Lose It.”
On Tim Mahoney’s website he writes the following:
The Responsible Federal Oil and Gas Lease Act of 2008 employs a “use it or lose it” tactic that will compel oil and gas companies to either produce or give up the federal onshore and offshore leases they are stockpiling by barring the companies from obtaining any more leases unless they can demonstrate that they are producing oil and gas, or are diligently developing the leases they already hold.
This might be of interest; Politico has this story which actually by video shows the waffling of Nobama over his first pledge to accept public financing and then his gradual waffling over this issue.
It’s rather interesting reading and the videos are good too.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11212.html
There just may hope yet! the kool aid effect may not be permanent. With antiObama ads from dems, we may get through! Check out this link, it gives me hope fom an Obama supporter for the first time, real hope!
http://www.bythefault.com/2008/06/20/an-obama-supporter-now-has-doubts/
#88 BrooklynNY
You should give your own reasons but this web address will let you see what other PUMAa have said. Send it to me at MamaPumaMass@aol.com
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/06/08/1000-reasons-puma-democrats-are-protesting-the-2008-presidential-election/
Happy Birthday CJV!
#80 MamaPuma I just sent you an email.
RE: http://www.opensecrets.org.
I looked briefly at Nobama’s take from my state and was amazed. The very elite/rich donating 2300 to 8,000 $$. Could not find the $5, $10 contributors he cites so often.
795 contributed 2.1M. Many of these were unemployed/retired.
http://savagepolitics.com/
great article on S. Obama’s decision on public financing
I can not believe that more people can’t see through this nonsense
just received this from Donna Brazile:
“Subject: Stop the hate and sending emails to my account
From: Donna Brazile
Date: Fri, June 20, 2008 7:53 am
To: Murphy@pumapac.org
Options: View Full Header | View Printable Version | Download this as a file | Whitelist Sender | Add to Addressbook
This is the smears you attribute to others. It’s people like you who have distorted
so much and acting as if Rush Limbaugh control your thoughts. Please stop the hate.
Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile. Please excuse any typos or
grammatical errors. “
Hi everyone,
I don’t blog much but I have been reading your blogs every day and supporting the cause. I just wanted to add to your list of Hillary supporters Martha Stewart. She openly said on her show that she was a Hillary supporter and when I looked at the donor list she contributed to Hillary but not to Obama or McCain. She would make a great spokesman for us if she would do it. She has a large fan base. If someone could get in touch with her maybe she would support our cause.
Go Pumas!!!
I guess the letters are getting to her.
Poor Donna! Being contacted by Democrats and U.S. Citizens.
What nasty thing will we think up next?! Maybe we could, I dont know, stand up for counting votes and awarding delegates to the actual winners of primaries.
Sheesh! Next thing you know we’ll be getting REALLY radical and start voting or something!
P.U.M.A. PAC Fourth ALERT
Congrats to Puma Power
June 20, 2008
80 letters sent so far.
The fourth set of 1,000 Reasons Protest Letters was sent to Howard Dean, Chairman of the Democratic Party with a copy to Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House as well as a long list of TV and radio news analysts and commentators.
Howard Dean and Donna Brazile do not want any more letters from us and have turned off reception. We, however, are Pumas and we do not give up. With some cunning and wiley work-arounds the letters got sent and will continue to go. Do not be dismayed if the next set takes a little time – it will go!
Each letter was sent separately to emphasize the importance of the contents and the author and also to avoid being filtered as spam. These articulate and passionate letters come from Puma’s in 27 different states and territories and demonstrate the broad base (pun intended) that Puma power achieved within 2 days.
New states heard from in this set of letters:
Arkansas Illinois Indiana North Carolina Virginia Wisconsin
Letters come from all these states and territories with just the first 80 letters:
Arkansas California Colorado Florida Georgia Illinois Indiana Kentucky Massachusetts Michigan Mississippi Missouri New Mexico North Carolina Pennsylvania Puerto Rico Tennessee Texas Virginia Wyoming Arizona Hawaii Minnesota New York Wisconsin Washington Washington DC
Congratulations to these Pumas. Your letters have been sent.
PumaName State
hummingbirdv
clintonite4ever
rob3gd
PumaAllie
EWard
Florida_Family Florida
bluegrasstrina Kentucky
Hillary_The_Real_Nominee Michigan
kristi74 Missouri
veritas08 Nevada
suzieforhill North Carolina
PA4HILL08 Pennsylvania
Pisces Texas
Pm Washington
Judith Arkansas
droc Illinois
prplvette85 Indiana
Dawn North Carolina
jdona Virginia
mpk Wisconsin
#92 scathcart
I to am worried about how voter fraud. I am in contact with a person that is gathering info for an investigation into the voter fraud that went on during the caususes and primaries for all states. I know it went on in my state of Mini -Snow-Dah!
Now with all that talk about the Chosen Ones “recruitment” programs, and some of the DNC (for now) moving to Chicago, and the Chosen Ones abilitiy to put ppl he chooses into positon – the upcoming make me even more scared.
I have one other comment about the news:
1) that the “Chosen One” and the “Chosen First Lady ” have been given a “make-over” to better prepare them to the public, their speeches, comments, actions – EXCUSE ME since when do we have to “groom” our nominees in – maybe because he was “selected” not “Elected” and now they have to “spruce” them up so that the ppl will fall in line or gasp at the thought of them in the WH…..I am gasping alright but out of “FEAR” of that thought!
2) Last week before it hit that now John Edwards is on some kind of short list as possible VP……a political stratistic(? doesn’t matter if I got it right cause it was on CNN) said the the “Chosen One” and “John Edwards” together on a ticket would – “be like a cover of a GQ magazine” OMG! and that their combined looks would be “attractive” to the woman voters! AGAIN – OMG
Well not this “SWEETIE” – NoBHO – No way, shape or form!……PERIOD
#100 campaign finance laws do not require donor information to be submitted to the FEC for small contributions. i don’t know at what point it needs to be reported, but in CA you must report anything $99 or more (for CA state finance laws). It may be $25, I can’t remember exactly.
just read Murphy’s #102 and #104
Donna got your letters Pumas!! Yeah! Fa le fa la!
MamaPuma, sorry to leave you hanging. CJV thanks for helping her out. While at work, I jump on and off the blog a lot.
I got free e-fax from AOL over a year ago. It’s come in handy. I also have a fax application on my pc.
Please let me know if you need help on doing that BevGarr1@aol.com.
Murphy
We should send her emails that say
We don’t hate. We reject your candidate.
Stop the bias.
Maryland PUMA
Wow, This is great we’re gettig a reation from Donna Brazile. I might have to send her another letter!
#109
Thanks SunnyPA
Or how about
“Donna B” We already understand how you don’t want to hear our voice. this was proven on May 31!
And, we gon’t hate, however, we don’t deserve to see DNC’s misogyny towards H Clinton either!
Good Morning Pumas,
I sent my letters to the editors in Colorado and Nevada (toss up) states. About 30 in all. Working on Montana and New Mexico next. I also emailed the state Dem parties in those states. Lots of political stuff on state Dem websites about NoName, Hillary, and McCain.
After I finish the west, I’ll work on the mid-west. Lots of toss up states there.
Noticed that Democracy for America is having a youth
training event in Albuquque tomorrow. Guess some of
Richardson’s youth want to be indoctrinated.
Donated to the “cause” this am. Poor Donna, does she not get the difference between hate mail and voters who expect a higher standard and better judgment from those who are suppose to respect voters. Guess not!
Speaking of our growing movement…
Hot off the press..new video featuring hillary supporters sites and our female senators trying to appease us with a 10 pt list.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iVSAPNmrvlk
Murphy, Donna Brazile, was she Al Gore’s Campaign manager? They lost long time ago.
Was she saying on RBC meeting that “My mom tought me to obay the rules…”. Ask what she think Pumas should do.
#102 murphy
LOL I read that letter and imagined her typing it in such anger that her teeth were grating together, her eyes and nose focused like a bull when he snorts and her hair falling in her face as she types pounding each key into the keyboard. Maybe we should send her this and say “Donna, don’t hold back, just tell us exactly how you feel”
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rodchile/1807087994/
#100 SARTOM on 06.20.08 at 10:50 am
I don’t think donations less than $200 are listed. Not sure if it’s because campaigns don’t have to report them, or if they just don’t get included in the compilations of data made available for public viewing.
AOL article says Obamas camp announced this morning that Hillary will start campaigning WITH him on Friday the 27th to unite the party
Murphy
She has been saying that since the day of the Rules Com. Meeting. “stop the hate”. Must be her mantra.
#10 prplvette85 on 06.20.08 at 7:12 am, WROTE,
[[ Time for some action on this..what do you think?]]
I think the women are a bunch of idiots. Did you read this part:
“Senator McCaskill suggested that this might be a splendid opportunity for Senator Clinton to apologize to Senator Obama for running but this suggestion did not carry the day. Senator Lincoln (AR) thought that a sincere and polite, hand written note on personal stationary would be more appropriate than a public apology.”
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/friday-the-us-senate-ladies-auxilliary-luncheon/
THE AUDACITY OF THEM!@#$
Just read on MSNBC that Hillary will appear with Obama on June 27th. Say it isn’t so…
Thanks for posting Donna Braziles email. She stopped responding to me after Hillary’s exit speech.
I continue to send though. And to CNN also, who I wish would remove her.
Yes, she was Gore’s campaign chair or co-chair. Both losers.
New AOL poll …
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/20/hot-seat-how-honest-is-obama/
Is nobama
1) less honest
2) more honest
3) as honest
as John McCain
Murphy,
#102 murphy on 06.20.08 at 10:57 am
The posting @102 – is that the exact content of the msg you rec’d from DB, or did you abbreviate it when you posted?
“cause if it is exact wording contained in the msg you received, I don’t think she herself wrote it – lack of grammar, etc. sounds just like an Obamabot. Maybe an office assistence/Obamabot wrote it? On behalf of Ms. Brazille, of course.
#121 cosmeta on 06.20.08 at 11:28 am
My blood is starting to boil.
The AOL straw presidential poll has been restart
#120 hillfan4mccain on 06.20.08 at 11:27 am
Wish she would have been so concerned with “stopping the hate” when Golden Boy was giving Hillary the finger in front of a crowd of thousands and on national tv.
Where was her outrage then?
She has a strange definition of hate. She when did protesting a just cause become “hate.”
What alternative universe does she live in?
RE: http://youtube.com/watch?v=iVSAPNmrvlk
Excellent.
#124 SunnyPA
Thank you for the poll link – I just voted I guess what I have thought of the “Chosen One” is alot like alot of others…….but then they tell us that there are not too many of us………guess again!
Also I called all the the list of the “10 Tailgaters” and they did not want to hear what I had to say. I was nice and respectful but as soon as I explained where I stood and mentions Hillary or PUMA my call got cut short, forwarded to a message center. So I decided I will do email, snail mail too!
#128 BrooklynNY
It amazes me when people only see something as unaaceptable when it directly affects them. It’s because of this “no see, no speak til the splatter hits me” that people like McCaskill are not fit to represent their constituents.
She should remember she is hired to provide fair representation on all levels and keep her head above the smears and not ridicule individuals or groups just because she has a personal agenda for herself.
#125 I think you are right.
Voted the AOL poll. These polls are unscientific. What value do they “really” have? Answer please.
There’s a new AOL straw poll out regarding Obama and honesty and I wanted to post the link here for others to vote, but I had voted first and can’t post the link to it. Can someone here post the link BEFORE they vote, so others here can vote?
1in18Mil, thank you for reminding me of my daily action items. Getting on them now.
#128 Brooklyn NY
When I saw that on a video it was the first thing I thought he was doing…..so I replayed it and replayed and it is still what I thought he was doing.
I have heard others back aways reference it thinking like I did …so we can’t be all wrong.
That along with all his other statements disgust me.
#122 Alohapuma Yes…it’s discoraging isn’t it. But I do believe she HAS to do this. First off, if she wants to run again she will need the DP support. I’d like to think she could go Indpendent but would probably never get enough votes to get her in office. Then, she has to consider her position in the Senate. She may see all the injustices that we have seen but not be in a position to say anything. SO what we are doing HERE and more than 125 other websites is staying connected to BE HILLARY’S VOICE.
I am going to repost the conference call from yesterday that VAPUMA so adeptly typed as Hillary was talking. NOTICE the first part and the last phrase. People who were on the call said she was flat when talking about noname. I think the highlighted parts are a clue that she still thinks he will implode.
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I am on the call!!! Typing as she is talking……..
A thanks to all women from Hillary for all the work for her campaign. “Its just beginning”
Hillary: Thank you to all. We broke alot of barriers. BEYOND THRILLED TO BE THE FIRST WOMAN TO EVER “WIN A PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY.” On Saturday we are going to work to ensure victory for the Dem Party. Fight hard for Obama. I intend to take all my energy to work for Obama. I hope you will join me in working in behalf of Obama. We,ve got to elect a democratic president. Some of you and I am concerned about what happened in the primary: attitudes toward women..I will continue to fight against this and will continue to bring it to light. We are going to address that because it is not right and we are going to address that. What can you do to help? Help Obama and give me money for my campaign. Need to pay our vendors. I would appreciate your help so I can be free to work for Obama and issues I am concerned about. Just wanted to take this opportunity to thank each of you. Had finest and bravest women I know. “WHAT WE STOOD FOR AND WHAT I CAMPAIGNED FOR WILL COME TO PASS.”
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I reread that first part again this morning and she IS saying that she WON the Presidential primary..that’s how I interpret it. So let’s keep our chins up and our paws aworkin’
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/straw-poll
#110 Maryland PUMA
I just sent Donna B the following message:
Subject: Democratic voices
Dear Donna,
Nice work as the chair of the DNC’s Voting Rights Institute.
We don’t hate. We reject your candidate.
Stop the bias.
We’re going to take our party back from the failed leaders of the undemocratic Democratic Party who selected an unknown, inexperienced, unqualified and dishonest candidate.
Believe that.
Count on it.
Brian R. Carniello
Puma Democrat
δημοκρατία – We the people rule, not you and not the few
#131 TrishfromCanada on 06.20.08 at 11:46 am
People like her are the first to get thrown under the bus. She’s selling out her own kind thinking she’s immune to the same treatment? I don’t think so. She’s just a tool. No pun intended, although it certainly would apply. You’re right. She doesn’t deserve to represent the people and she just insulted every single one of us here in New York State, my home state. Hillary’s our gal!
#139 Knoxville Puma on 06.20.08 at 11:53 am
Excellent letter!
Please go vote at AOL’s poll
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/20/hot-seat-how-honest-is-obama/
Is Obama
1) more honest than McCain
2) less honest than McCain
3) as honest as McCain
YOU HAVE TO VOTE BY STATE. In TN, 59% say that Obama is less honest.
Ouch! Maria Cantwell was at the women’s tea. That’s okay, but she took minutes and was sending them to the Senate men’s group. Ugh! This sounds like something right out of my grandmother’s era (turn of century). Guess my Senator is going to get a letter…… McCaskill makes me sick, sick, sick. She’s just plain “mean.”
#133 Mayor0102
I voted on it to…I do not believe any poll is scientific but I still vote. I like that it seems the ones on aol only allow you to vote once (not that I am sure there are ways around it) but it still gets some info of ppl thoughts out there and maybe that inspires conversation and actions.
Sorry if this has been posted, just thought it was a good read
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
#141 BrooklynNY,
Thanks. The most pithy part of it I owe to Maryland #110. Thought the Greek was a nice touch!
#136 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.20.08 at 11:51 am
There is no doubt in my mind he gave her the finger. He even paused in her speech to make sure people caught it, then he smirked (audience cheered) and he went on with his speech. Subliminal like everything else he and/or the campaign does, but just barely….
There is a youtube somewhere of him doing it…It’s short but it has been captured for posterity….Something that really shows he’s one of the all time greats, equal to MLK, JFK, RFK, Abraham Lincoln and God.
BrooklynNY
I dont know if its an Obamabot or not. The day of the roolz meeting, I sent her a short, nice, email expressing my concerns for their decission and that I was concidering changing parties because of it. Her email to me………… “your choice…….stop the hate tell the sites to stop the hate” I sent her a nice email.
When I questioned her “hate” reference, she told me that Hillarys people voted in favor of it too. (not her exact words)
Froma Obama WTF
Obama’s 7 Habits of a Highly Defective Liberal
* 1 Most liberal voting record in US Senate
* 2 Extreme radical ties
* 3 Soft on national security
* 4 Ambitious deceptive flip-flopper
* 5 Sleazy financial hypocrisy
* 6 Accomplished nothing as a leader
* 7 Divisive empty rhetoric
#136
meant to say paused in “his” speech – not “her speech,” sorry ’bout that.
#148 hillfan4mccain on 06.20.08 at 11:58 am
It doesn’t make sense to me either….unless the obamabots are flooding her with hate emails pretending to be us and others who are protesting DNC actions.
It wouldn’t surprise me if they did that.
Knoxville – “We don’t hate. We reject your candidate”
That is a good slogan.
#137 Zephyr – Thanks for the post. I pray Hillary hits the right note with this. She does have to do this otherwise she’ll be scapegoated for his implosion. I understand.
We have to keep the momentum going, so those people out there who think they are alone will get the message and not give up. The sight of Hillary with BO will erode the resolve of many people.
Hillary is walking a fine line.
The DNC having some internal problems ???? Democratic convention director of volunteers quits
AP
Posted: 2008-06-20 10:57:25
DENVER (AP) – The director of volunteers for the Democratic National Convention in Denver has resigned, saying she wasn’t “empowered” to do her job.
Sondra Williams stepped down June 7. She declined to elaborate on her reasons, saying she doesn’t want to criticize the host committee.
The committee faces fundraising problems. It reported this week it is $11.6 million short of its $40.6 million goal.
Williams says her proposal for a volunteer-appreciation party at the Denver Zoo was turned down because of costs. Host committee spokesman Chris Lopez says other plans are under consideration.
Lopez says Williams set up the volunteer program well and her departure shouldn’t hurt it. He says two people who worked with her will be able to fill the gap.
I thought riverdaughters ‘Minutes from the Meddling’ was excellent satire. WTG RD.
#146 Knoxville Puma on 06.20.08 at 11:57 am
That was Greek? I thought it was Russian….:) Thought it fit in perfectly…Hmm…How ’bout some Russian quotes in our next mailings. I’m almost tempted to have a hammer and sickle drawing beside their addresses or something.
looking for email or contact info for Martha Stewart –
she’s a BIG Hillary supporter and we want her to check out Puma PAC!” This was a quote from Murphy
I sent her a message via her wibsite but I don’t know if it will go to her or her staff. If anyone knows her personal email I will contact her again.
Please help PUMAS. I am new at this so could use some help.
texassherry (“sherryfromtexas” used when blogging on other sites)
#147 Brooklyn NY
That is the youtube I think I saw. Also he made sure that he did it to the side of which is where Hillary was standing at the debate. You are right with the pause so that the crowd knew what he was doing – there is even a reaction from a lady sitting in the crowd behind him that “GOT IT” and laughed and quickly whispered in the ear of the person next to her and the face on that person got it too. He is Sooooooo SAD but thinks he is Soooooooooo COOL – NOT! He character, actions, beliefs, judgement and inexperience just plain scares me.
1 of 18
Thanks for the reply.
To all: Still thinks there’s some more to the small donor operation than we think. Keep investigating. Someone mentioned that states require under $99. There are loopholes. It’s been a while since I’ve filled out a campaing finance disclosure and the rules have changed a bit. Does Presidential campaign finance even go through the state public disclosure system?
Murphy
I’m still waiting on the answer to donating to just one ad. Please.
Speaking of Donna, I hate to ask this but did anyone see her on CNN last night. I switching thru channels and caught the end Donna stating how some delicates are now holding back and may change back to Hillary. Due to voters voting for Hill and giving them flack. And they want to be re-elected. She said it was no big deal. BUT I only caught the end of it so I didnt want to post this incase I am way off. Anyone catch the whole thing?
Wouldn’t it be great is the convention turned into a “three ring circus”?
It has probably stopped since late last night but there was a list of to add to of losers? associated with the ‘Chosen One” I would like to suggest: Oprah, Caroline Kennedy, Maria Sherver (sp? AR NOlds wife)
JMO
#96 csuzeq… I believe what this man is starting to realize is going to become the movement toward the General Election.
Also, his comments on “YouTube”: It is a fact that YouTube is a huge BO supporter and his admin team has been caught manipulating Hits, Comments, Ratings on a Video, etc. to keep anti-bo postings low and pro-bo postings way up. (“better get on the ‘winning’ team or be left behind”
#161 mayor0102
“Wouldn’t it be great is the convention turned into a “three ring circus”?”
oh Yeah! with Hillary guarded by Puma’s during the circus events. I like that image.
#157 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.20.08 at 12:05 pm
Can you imagine someone like that representing the United States, meeting with world leaders, etc.? A punk who gives his opponent the finger in front of cheering crowds and who brags about bringing guns and knives to the politcal process.
Where’s the zero tolerance policy? I thought even kids in elementary school get expelled or suspended for that kind of behavior? But it’s acceptible by someone seeking the highest office in the land? Someone who’s going to be Leader of the Free World?
And this guy gets compared to MLK and RFK? RFK came out in a heavily AA community after MLK had been assassinated, he was full of incredible grief, eyes full of tears and begged the people not too riot, but to keep fighting the way MLK wanted them to. He didn’t tell them to go home and get their guns and knives.
I can’t imagine someone as undignified and childish in such a position of power. I just can’t. It’s too surrreal. Have they all lost their minds?
No join ticket, but joint fund raising? It was HRC who followed Voters’ will during the primaries, not other way around. DNC only uses her, and force her to do what they want.
there is an internet article out from the AP 2 hours ago that says Hillary and the Chosen One will be out campaigning together.. Do not know how to link it here – sorry. Poor girl has to do what they say but I do not believe it is what she wants to be doing.
One ? though how does this affect her at the convention if she is put on the ballet? I guess I do not understand it.
I really wish someone would make a video capturing RFK giving that speech after MLK was assassinated and then juxtapose to the cold, aloof, detached holier-than-thou approach of BO. I’d like people to see the differences between them, believe me they are monumental! Young people don’t know what RFK was like. They know he was one of the greats of that era, but they really have no idea what he was like. And BO just doesn’t even come close.
check out this ad on hcsfjm.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdVK8ZTiF1k&eurl=http://www.hcsfjm.com/
looks like Goldwater all over again with the little girl.
Obama’s Strange Bedfellows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNcRb87dtY4
Perplexing: I received another “Album” from the Hillary team (the same one) and then saw announcement that she will make her first joint-campaign appearance with BO?
What’s up with this? The delay in her getting out there with him could have about gauging her support in challenging him.
It is impossible for me to stomach her on the same stage with him. I think ultimately it really does more harm to HER image to join him than the DNC, given what I believe will ultimately happen with his supporters waking up.
He is worse than “old politics” and his ‘supporters’ are going to realize that. They aren’t really stupid, they fell for the propaganda.
Now he is revealing that he was just dupping (using) them all along to insure that the Old-Party gets back the reigns.
See any Fresh Faces on his Political ‘New Politics’ Machine?
Just sent off the following to Senator Maria Cantwell who was present and taking minutes at the infamous Senate Women’s Garden party.
To the Honorable Maria Cantwell,
Maria, I read the article about the “tea party” which women Senator’s attended. It mentioned that you took minutes and would send them to the men’s Senate group. Good for you. I had a problem with the quote by Senator McCaskill, however. Her direct statement about Senator Clinton giving an apology was a bit “catty” to say the least. I haven’t been impressed with her style and this was a bit over the top. I hope that you were not involved in this bit of sarcasm or whatever it was meant to be. I have always supported you, but please don’t get involved in that sort of sarcasm. I would appreciate a direct response to this statement by McCaskill. I am also including letter that I had composed earlier to you:
The Most Honorable Senator Maria Cantwell,
I sent snail mail to you and realize that it will take some time getting to you, but I wanted to make my case clear to you in my own handwriting. First, you are great Senator and a fantastic, respected woman. I thank you for all that you have done for the State of WA. I will continue to support you, however, you must know that I am now an Independent. I have joined PUMA (People United Means Action). I am not a bitter person as you know nor am I uneducated. But I have reach my limit with the Democratic Party. Because I am a citizen first, I must protest the DNC’s choice to disinfranchise so many voters and completely disregard the will of the people in so many ways in the past months. The last straw for me as a former Party member was the unwillingness of the Party and its “selected” nomiinee to fight against the terrible treatment of women both in the national media and within the Party itself. As a former elected official, I did receive the same type of treatment only much less pulbic than Senator Clinton. I had a place in the Party where I was able to stand up for the right of women and ability to make decisions for the people. But I increasingly have found that the Party does not want to listen. It’s not about being a sore looser and all the other names that we have been called. It’s about standing up finally to the mistreatment of women who are fully qualified. In summary, I will peacefully and respectfully decline the Party’s plea to join them in supporting the selected nominee. Thank you. name
The sooner her campaign debt is retired, the sooner she’s free of him and the DNC, at least financially.
I almost feel the situation is similar to an abused wife who needs cash to escape and abusive husband. While souless back-stabbers like McCaskill gloat and pile it on too.
#165 BrooklynNY
EXACTLY! and much, much more. He is for change alright but not the right change or the kind I want.
I can not believe at least some of those supporters by now do not get it.
Kinda like all the ppl who voted for Bush and then all of a sudden “woke up” that he wasn’t what they thought he was about…..sound familiar (the Chosen One thinks that about all his associates – Not the person I knew!) Yeah right
Hope the Democratic Party and DNC wake up before August and November cause in my opinion 8 years is along time
168 BrooklynNY
I’ll send that idea to Flineo…the creator of several awesome youtube videos against Obama. I’m too young (ahem) to remember RFK.
Action Item
A clip of the Clinton supporter who is receiving hate mail for nobama is on NoQuartersUSA. Her name is Paula Abeles.
She was on Cavuto and Fox & Friends. We should send emails to both shows as well as Paula Abeles, herself. Let’s help someone who appreciates hearing from us.
…hate mail from nobama supprters
I found this one under the title:
Some of my friends have Iobatamys.
enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lex-Mvj9xU&eurl=http://dakiniland.wordpress.com/
Maybe this should be a Headline:
Young Voters USED ! Just a New Face On the Old Democratic Party!
#173 BrooklynNY: How True, How True.
#174 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.20.08 at 12:25 pm
I kind of think that’s why so many repubs are sympathetic. They fell for the same trick last 2 elections and see what a mess it got us in. They’re a little warier now. They aren’t so easy to fool. But we Dems just don’t believe our guys are capable of doing such things….Well, you learn something new every day.
Trish #164
Sry repost
Obama’s Strange Bedfellows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNfRb87dtY4
Young Voters USED ! They put a New Face On the Old Democratic Party! You can change your mind!
#155 BrooklynNY, the word ‘democracy’ comes from Greek, and the concept was 5th century BCE (Classical Greek). From the Latin “populus” we get popular government: government of the people.
I love Russia and Russians (my wife’s Russian), but I’m not sure what we can get from there other than tsars and soviets and Putin (<-trying to be funny…)
#172 mayor0102 on 06.20.08 at 12:24 pm
Great letter, mayor!
Senator Clinton campaigning with Obama? It will be something she has to do by the DNC. This whole election thing is nothing more than a circus, where everyone in the world could join in. Now, all the celebrities and tycoons around the world are having a fantasy match or something. WHAT A JOKE!
McCain 08, Hillary 12
Has anyone received their PUMA t-shirts or mugs yet? Just wondering what they are like. I ordered a mug a while back but has not arrived yet.
171 wontbackdown said
“It is impossible for me to stomach her on the same stage with him. I think ultimately it really does more harm to HER image to join him than the DNC, given what I believe will ultimately happen with his supporters waking up.”
I agree. VERY mixed emotions about this. Hillary is walking a very thin line here. She has to know that.
Brooklyn
Thanks.
To All, I’m out of here for the weekend. Stay focused everyone.
#166 SparkForHill:
He uses everybody and the truth be known: The DNC is using him. But, BO and MO are so Limelight Blind, they don’t care!
Don’t think that when AA’s wake up and see all the BS, they won’t feel used, too!
#183 Knoxville Puma on 06.20.08 at 12:29 pm
I know, Brian….but I just couldn’t resist the urge to say it.
I appreciate that Greece was the cradle of democracy, with a rich and unquestionably vital contribution to civilization. Glad you chose to remind them about democracy with the quote. That sure made the point better than any alternative.
It really was a nice touch.
Fellow PUMAs. Don’t forget, we have a special “Favorite Youtube Videos” section on the PP Action Center at:
http://pumapacusa.org/
If you’d like to see any good pertinent video links added to the site so we can all give the good one’s some love and boost their rankings, please email me with the Youtube video link and I’ll pout it up with the next website update. Thanks!
pa4hill08.puma@gmail.com
#156 texassherry – I love this idea. I know Ellen DeGeneres also stood by her and had her on her show several times. I’m wondering if she’d be willing to have a representative from our group on her show. I know there are many out there who supported her that we could probably reach out to for support.
#160 AWESOME!!! Maybe, just maybe we’re starting to make a difference. We need to keep the heat on.
#175 alohapuma on 06.20.08 at 12:25 pm
Thanks, alo! Wish you could have been there to witness it all for yourself. He was one special man. There just aren’t words to describe him….You have to see him in action for yourself. Words just don’t do it. He was just a gentle loving man with a spine of steel. He fought hard but with love and compassion that was as real as the day is long. I can’t even begin to express my feelings about him.
#193 A-Will- I just got a response from my letter to Marthat Stewart. It said that my letter would be forwarded to the production staff and also to Martha. Hopefully we will hear from them. I am not an outgoing person but maybe someone else that is could work on Ellen and see if they could appear on her show. That is a great idea.
Glad Brazile was the target of an action today since a link to an article earlier today on this thread had a timeline of misrepresentations and dirty tricks played all through the primary campaign. Donna not only led the funny stuff that went on in the RBC, but she also purposely used her position as ‘impartial’ pundit on CNN to further the phony racist charges about comments made by the Clintons. She did this over and over, distorting the words and intent long after it was clarified what the Clintons actually said. She deserves much reproach as a double dealing liar and she needs constant reminders that we know what she is.
Please consider going to CNN’s political ticker and leaving a comment to the story “Nader campaign hits Obama in new fundraising pitch.” You might note in the comment that Nader is striking at exactly the kind of unprincipled and sleazy politics of the Obama campaign that we know to be wrong. Don’t drink the koolaid. Go Ralph!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/20/nader-campaign-hits-obama-in-new-fundraising-pitch/
#175 alohapuma
Also there’s a speech Ted Kennedy gave at RFK’s funeral – it was the eulogy. It is one of the most beautiful speeches I have ever heard, where he talks about his brother, RFK, his eyes are brimming with tears, his voice is cracking and he talks about doing what his brother would have wanted….etc. Non-violence, etc.
Then juxtapose that with BO talking about guns and knives in such a haughty, arrogant way.
I want people also to see that BO doesn’t represent what RFK stood for, or even what T. Kennedy himself believed in and stood for until this trip to hell we’re in now.
I’d like people to see the difference for themselves. It’s just beyond words.
Hi PUMAs
I wanted to email the letter from Shalom International about protesting HBOs rally tomorrow to CNN, could I send it from clintondems.com?
anonymous
Question
I do not want to even imagine let alone watch any of the “pretend” dual stumping of our Hillary with their Chosen One…but she is being “forced” hopefully just for now.
But bigger question and I believe it is safe to say that alot of the Chosen Ones supporters do NOT like Hillary.
I hope she does not get subjected to alot of it from them.
Well I am out of here going to go mail my snail mail to “O”.
Til then hope all have great days….keep growling!
Did any PUMA’s contact Ellen Degeneres as a potential media assist?
I just called MacCaskill’s office, called her out on asking Hillary to apologize, “outrageous, discourteous…” my usual comments.
Let’s all call and register a complaint, the kid taking my message sounded rather annoyed!
#195 texassherry – Way to go! I’ll see if I can get an email for the Ellen DeGeneres show. I agree, it would be best if this person were well-poised, charismatic, articulate, etc. Definitely not me!!! LOL!!!
#201 PA4HILL08- I contacted Martha Stewart but not Ellen. If you don’t want to contact Ellen let me know and I will try. You are better with words than I am. I got a response from Martha’s staff saying that my letter would be forwarded to the production staff and to Martha so cross your fingers that we get a response.
I have to go, also. Have a big weekend. We are doing our Flyer hand-out tomorrow.
Will let you know on Sunday how it goes! Hope many recipients will come here and join and spread the word!
Wish we could do a mass distribution of the Video (on BOs Mortgage industry contributors)
Did you know that the majority of those hurt by this Mortgage Fraud were Minorities and Low Income folks.
They charged them huge closing fees ($15 to 20,000) on average loans of 150,000 and put them in high rates)
Congratulation BO, you were not only in bed with slum lords, but the scalpers of your own people who knew a large % of those loans would result in foreclosures and flip back into the hands of the rich through bailouts – all at the expense of taxpayers!
WOW! What a changer! No wonder he quotes Reagan. He deregulated the loan industry in the first place and the Real Estate Crash and bail-outs of the 80s – at taxpayer’s expense, was the result, as well.
History repeats itself! Now that’s what I call “a Man of ‘$Change$”!
I just saw this on YouTube. How do I get it to the Shalom Israel before tomorrow’s rally?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaG6s05MKeM&feature=related
anonymous
#200 1of18MilforHill08 on 06.20.08 at 12:46 pm
How ’bout a mailing or posters saying “BO Needs To Apologize to Hillary” with a huge picture of him giving her the finger in the background!
#203 A-Will- Thanks for looking for the email for Ellen. I would be willing to contact her if nobody else wants to but would prefer someone that is better with words and watches Ellen more frequently than I do. I am just an occasional watcher. I did Martha because I watch her every morning so feel I can connect with her better.
#197 Knoxville Puma on 06.20.08 at 12:42 pm
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As always, I’m stuck in perpetual moderation at CNN.com.
P.S. If America let’s the DNC get away with this, we’ll have another Bush-Cheney Regime that no matter what they do to our country – they can’t be impeached!
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#207 BrooklynNY ! Love that! Where is the Picture?
Here is as much contact information as I could find on 19 of the 20 Hillary donors who wrote Nancy Pelosi back in March (no contact info on one of them, Sim Farrar). Phone, fax, send letters to them all, encouraging them to continue to support Hillary and NOT to donate to Obama:
Mark Alan Aronchick
Hangley Aronchick Segal & Pudlin
One Logan Square
18th & Cherry Streets, 27th Floor
Philadelphia, PA 19103-6933
Phone: 215.496.7002
Fax: 215.568.0300
maronchick@hangley.com
Clarence Avant
1140 Maytor Place
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
Susie Tompkins Buell
Susie Tompkins Buell Foundation
office: 415-248-7825
fax: 415-441-6381
email: contact@susietompkinsbuell.org
Robert L. Johnson
RLJ Companies
3 Bethesda Metro Center, Suite 1000
Bethesda, MD 20814
P (301) 280.7700
F (301) 280.7750
Chris Korge
Korge & Korge
230 Palermo Avenue
Coral Gables, FL 33134
phone: (305) 444-5630
fax: (305) 444-5633
Marc and Cathy Lasry
Marc Lasry, Chairman, CEO & Founder
Avenue Capital Group
535 Madison Ave # 14
New York, NY 10022
(212) 878-3500
mlasry@avenuecapital.com (not sure about this)
Hassan Nemazee
Nemazee Capital Corporation
40 W 57th St #20
New York, NY 10019
(212) 262-3111
Alan and Susan Patricof
Alan Patricof, Founder & Managing Director
Greycroft LLC
153 East 53rd Street, 53rd floor
New York, NY 10022
T 212 756-3508
F 212 832-0117
JB Pritzker
Managing Partner
The Pritzker Group
1603 Orrington Avenue, Suite 1600
Evanston, IL 60201
Phone: (847) 328-0400
Fax: (847) 733-9905
Amy Rao
Founder & Chief Executive Officer
Integrated Archive Systems
1121 N. San Antonio Road, Suite D100
Palo Alto, CA 94303
Tel: (650) 390-9995
Fax: (650) 390-9997
Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild
Founder and Chief Executive
E L Rothschild LLC
Headquarters
767 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10153
(212) 572-4200
Haim Saban
Chairman & CEO
Saban Capital Group, Inc.
10100 Santa Monica Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90067-4003
(310) 557-5100
Bernard Schwartz
Chairman and CEO
BLS Investments LLC
745 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10151
Tele: (212) 488-5444
Fax: (212) 644-9481
Stanley S. Shuman
EVP & Managing Director
Allen & Company LLC
711 5th Ave., 9th Fl.
New York, NY 10022
212-832-8000 (Phone)
212-832-8023 (Fax)
Jay T. Snyder
HBJ Investments LLC
592 5th Avenue
New York, NY 10036-4707
Phone: (212) 398-6628
Steven Rattner and Maureen White
Steven Rattner, Managing Principal
Quadrangle Group LLC
375 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10152
Tel (212) 418-1700
Fax: (212) 418-1701
#201 PA4HILL08
I thought Ellen was supporting Obama?
#207 BrooklynNY ! Love that! Where is the Picture of him doing that? I didn’t see it.
#204 texassherry on 06.20.08 at 12:50 pm
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I thought we had a media contact coordinator? If we don’t we should, so one person is coordinating all our media contacts and outreach.
MURPHY or MARYLAND PUMA! Maybe we should add a media coordinator to the PUMA PAC Project Coordinators?
If anyone wants to volunteer for that position, I believe you could email either Murphy or Maryland PUMA and let them know what you have in mind.
#210 mystic4hill _ Save everyone the trouble of googling it
Is Chris Korge a female or male?
Thanks
#213 PA4HILL08- I agree with you that we need a media contact coordinator. All I did was say in my letter to Martha that I was a big fan of hers and that I was even more of a fan now that I knew she supported Hillary. I told her I was a member of Puma and gave her the web address and asked her to check us out. I am not outgoing enough to go on anybody’s show or anything but hopefully my letter will get a response and if she wants to get involved and replies to me then I will refer her to Murphy or whoever will be taking care of this sort of thing.
#212 wontbackdown on 06.20.08 at 12:58 pm
There’s a youtube of it. Don’t have the link handy. Maybe someone else does? He did it at one of his big rallys. I saw it happening live, but since then it’s been youtubed. It’s a short youtube, but it captures his obnoxious obscene gesture and shows him smirking as he does it. Maybe if you do a “search” for it on youtube you can find it. I will try to locate it again and post it if I can, but don’t have much time right now….
Okay – I sent an email “suggestion” to the Ellen DeGeneres show. This is what I wrote:
Myself and others were very impressed with Ellen’s unwavering support for Senator Hillary Clinton in her race with Senator Obama for the democratic nomination. There are many instances where millions of us supporters for Senator Clinton felt the race for the nomination was not fair, overly biased, and the nomination ripped out of the hands of the American people. Many coalitions have now been formed to demonstrate their frustration and anger at the overly biased media pundits, the democratic party, and Senator Obama’s supporters. I believe that it would be great if Ellen could do a show about some of the groups that have formed and what their missions and their messages are. The group to which I belong is PUMA Pac. More information about the organization can be found at our website: http://blog.pumapac.org/ All coalitions can be found at http://www.justsaynodeal.com. Thank you for your time.
We’ll see if they bite.
#213 – PA4HILL08 – A media contact person would be great.
#217 A-Will- Good Job! You are much better with your words than I am.
#214 alohapuma
Chris Korge is male – I should have written Christopher
#211 Trishfrom Canada and #201 PA4HILL08
I just thought that you might enjoy this clip of Ellen dropping by Hillary’s rally in Washington DC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A9DkhPiEvc&feature=related
This clip is of Hillary and Ellen bowling. It’s amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKZqTrzvkbA
anonymous
re #210 – JB Pritzker is “Jay Robert”, but goes by JB
Two days ago, I received an email solicitation for donations from NObama. Today I recieved one from Dragon Lady Pelosi. This was my response:
Ms Pelosi:
Let’s make it clear. After the traitorious fiasco that was the Democratic “primary”, and we all know what this means, I will ONLY donate to efforts to remove you, Reid, Dean, and to defeat Obama. I have withdrawn from the Democratic Party and now affiliate with Independents. Hillary Clinton may have gotten herself in the position where she has to support Obama, and it’s sad to think that her star has fallen. But this campaign has become about far more than her. Just because Obama has access to unlimited funds does not mean he will win. There are some things that cannot be bought. And there are those of us who are terrified at the idea of such a egotistical, deceitful, inexperienced person leading our nation into the next four years and dealing with all the serious issues facing us, based soley on some fantasies of change with no solid basis of doing so.
Please desist and refrain from sending me any more emails or other solicitations for funds. The American Red Cross, PUMA’s, and others who truly care needs them more.
Sincerely,
Ashleigh Grace
#213 PA4HILL08
Great idea about having media spokes person for us. Then we would be more visible. Awesome idea. Murphy, let’s do it. PLEASE
anonymous
#221 MountainSong on 06.20.08 at 1:17 pm
Fantastic letter!
Again, Pumas, I apologize for jumping on and off the blog comments while at work.
May I make another “to do” suggestion? Several good videos are on our front page. Let’s be sure to email a video link to as many people as we can…asking them to view and forward.
I’m not sure if Murphy wants us to link the commercial/ad videos … but there are other good video clips on the front blog page.
221 MountainSong
Great response! Can I borrow it?
#218 – texassherry. Thanks
Off topic again…a few minutes ago, I saw relatives of Elian Gonzales on Fox slamming O for making some sort of deal with Cuba. They did say they were pushing everyone to vote for McCain. I didn’t get all the details, so maybe someone can get the brief video off of Fox and post it here.
Here an example of another call to action
Obama Sweety the check’s in the mail
http://obamacom.blogspot.com/
#197 Knoxville Puma
I replied to CNN’s Political Ticker story about Ralph Nader. I’m in a bad mood today so BO supporters’ nasty comments set me off. I’m still in moderation.
Let us tell Danna Brazile that it is not the ‘hate’ that should be stopped, it never be a hate. It is the love, the love of the great land that cannot be stopped.
Has anyone seen the disgusting covers of these magazines at Riverdaughters. The advocate, Cosmopolitan, & Guns & Ammo cover pictures of MO. I think I’m really going to be sick. Who does she think she is. I can’t stand her or OB. I am now really disgusted with McCaskill and am calling both of her offices and sending her e-mails. She is making a mockery of my State of Missouri. She certainly does not represent the people of Missouri. If anyone needs to appoligize it is her to the people of this State.
I wonder if we could get Oprah to do a segment supportive of PUMA—(tongue-in-cheek)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6LtKDwVo-o
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A disgruntled Obama supporter tells why he has serious doubts about him. A very good video, nothing ugly.
So now they are giving MO a ‘political makeover’. Apparently the truth needs a gloss job.
all4mygirl if you’re out there I just did my newspaper assignment. I found a fantastic price here for our Oakland press (I will email you with info as soon as she emails me) everyone Italk to seems to be for Hillary here but one lady said she thought Hillary was out (stupid TV news commentators, I wish they’d stop spreading the poison ) I had to explain she wasn’t out she had just supended and was going to the convention.
Good morning Pumas -
Murphy – could we have a link to Women for Fair Politics ? Was just there – good articles – they are starting something new:
We are starting a new daily event, kind of a mirror of (yuck) Keith Olberman. Ours will mention as it is written above, “The Worst Sexist in the United States Today.” We are calling on all of you to send in your nominations each day with a description of why it is the worst sexist of the day. Please send it on “Tell Us Your Story,” and please leave us your name and state so we can attribute your example to you.
The award for today goes to: Boxer, McCaskill & Stabenow for their crappy appearence this am on the Morning Joe show on our very favorite network MSNBC – sorry I can’t watch anything from the network…….
anyway, just a thought………………..Hillary supporters too…………………
Volunteers Director for DNC Resigns
by Associated Press
Friday, June 20, 2008
DENVER — The director of volunteers for the Democratic National Convention in Denver has resigned, saying she wasn’t “empowered” to do her job.
Sondra Williams stepped down June 7. She declined to elaborate on her reasons, saying she doesn’t want to criticize the host committee.
The committee faces fundraising problems. It reported this week it is $11.6 million short of its $40.6 million goal.
Williams says her proposal for a volunteer-appreciation party at the Denver Zoo was turned down because of costs. Host committee spokesman Chris Lopez says other plans are under consideration.
Lopez says Williams set up the volunteer program well and her departure shouldn’t hurt it. He says two people who worked with her will be able to fill the gap.
PUMAs (when I say we I mean the team, not that I represent PUMA leadership in any way shape or form)
We are working on the spokesperson thing. We are working on the media thing.
Media is too enormous to be handled by one person.
We have a team investigating swing state newspapers for an ad.
We need people to check out magazines, local publications that are FREE that people pick up inside restaurants, dental offices, doctors offices, minimarts….
We are advertising our intent to run a NObama TV ad and asking for donations.
Someone suggested billboards.
We need radio ads, but need the contact info and price first.
In other words……we’re workin on it! In the meantime, if you DO make contact with a potential high-profile supporter, please let Murphy know asap. She lives on Puma so she’ll get the email.
Whoops – sentence The award for today are my words – they said it much nicer………………
I think it would be sweet justice to respond to their requests for donations with a few very simple words “Stop sending me hate mail”
Sorry folks – I’m at work and kinda limited on effort today.
I don’t understand how DB can consider our letters hate mail. I guess she does not know what hate mail really is till she gets some from OB group. Maybe she feels she can fuel the fire by telling eveyone she is getting “hate mail” from Hillary supporters.
PUMA Reminder
PUMAs are not all female. PUMAs are all heterosexual. We are in the public eye, so we need to practice what we preach – inclusiveness.
When commenting, please leave the gender- or sexual-innuendos out, and please include these folks in our midst.
I’m getting tons of Growl sign-ups, some of them express displeasure that we were ‘excluding’ men or non-straight orientations. They are hesitant to speak on the board due to not feeling a part of PUMA because of some of the innuendos they have read on the blog.
Thanks!
MarylandPUMA
Well duh that’s what I get for being in a hurry.
That should read “NOT all heterosexual”.
Geez, Keyboard in mouth anyone?
Maryland, I think you meant PUMA’s are NOT all heterosexual didn’t you?
245 Maryland PUMA
PUMA are not all females.
Absolutely not Maryland and we all welcome men of all orientation and are please when they actually identify themselves. We know there are millions of men supporting Hillary and PUMA.
Latest blog on CNN that Hillary may join Obama on the circuit, how can we beg her not to go with him?
He is bad news and will never win the G.E.
Suggestion for Action Item:
Send a cut out doll empty suit with tabs attached to the DNC with “One of 18 million that will not vote for an empty suit. PUMA
hi everyone,
i e-mailed Ellen degeneres a week or so ago. i thanked her for her support of hillary and told her about pumapac. i asked her to take a look and maybe she could have one of us on her show and if not could she at least mention us? i got an e-mail back that it would be forwarded to her but that is the last i heard.
Action for this weekend. Moveon.org has organized thousands of “Hungry for Change” bake sales across the country. I plan on going to one of them and distributing Puma flyers. To find a bake sale near you, just go to Moveon.org and enter your zip code. While you’re at the site, order one free Obama bumper sticker. This will cost them money in shipping and material. Shred it on Independence Day!
#209 PA4HILL08,
Try to limit yourself to one comment to each story at the CNN political ticker. If you really want to add a second comment to a story, wait at least 5-6 minutes between submitting each comment. Brian
#201 PA4HILL08, Ellen is not the first person to be suggested! I recall Elton, too. I’m going to start a list of potentials.
Murphy,
I e-mailed you a question. Could you take a look? Thank you.
#203 A-Will, If you find Ellen’s email address, please email it to me at knoxvillepuma@gmail.com. Thanks! Brian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPYNb4ex6Ko
I know that this post doesn’t fit in with the train of thought we’re on here…but I want people to look at this video of RFK speaking to a crowd, announcing the assassination of MLK,
Please view it and see how different RFK’s approach was than BO’s is….and note the constant talk about “guns” at the end. It’s an add-on to the video, capturing the chaos and commotion at the Ambassador Hotel when RFK was assassinated.
Believe me, RFK would never say, “If they bring knives, we’ll bring guns.”….
They brought guns in 1968 and killed Robert Kennedy
It sickens me that BO got away with that despicable, irresponsible comment.
It’s outrageous that he could make a statement like that and then have the “audacity” to compare himself to RFK!
BO’s people have already thought of comparing and contrasting the two. There’s another video of RFK, inappropriate music in the background (modern rap/hip-hop or something) I think I even heard the n-word), and BO trying to pair himself with RFK by mimicking his words, body positions, mirroring his every move….It’s dishonest. RFK would NEVER want to be associated with the n-word or with the hatred and racial division BO and MO and Wright inspire. He would have sat in Rev. Wright’s church for all of 3 seconds…
Kennedy’s concession speech from 1980 when he took all the way to the convention is on youtube too, along with “the dream lives, the battle continues,…..” I can’t remember exact words, but kind of seems like he wants the dream to be realized finally all these years later, even if it isn’t really….
Anyway, just my little rant for the day….
i // June 20, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Have you all seen this?!? Is this REAL?
Karen Hill dissects HRC’s campaign ads:
http://tinyurl.com/5smxot
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Hello everyone,
I just wanted to let you know that the Sierra Club endorsed BO today. You can read more about their endorsement by going to http://www.sierraclub.org. I have been a member of this organization for years. I received an e-mail from its director, Carl Pope, asking Sierra Club members to pledge their time to help elect BO. I will never volunteer my time to help the supposed Democratic presidential candidate and I plan on telling both the national Sierra Club office and the local one (if they ever directly ask for our services to help BO) what I think of their endorsement. I tried calling the national office to leave a message but I haven’t been able to get through.
Just wanted to let you know what was going on. They plan on using existing organization to help their cause.
Best,
Lara08
#255 – Knoxville Puma – I just went to her website and submitted the email under “Dear Ellen” as a suggestion for a show.
Hey guys, did you see a segment on MSNBC “is MO a fashion icon?” and showing her dress at the View, and suggest that many women will try to emulate her. I am going to puke!
#259 MadLogic on 06.20.08 at 3:10 pm
Did you know she’s also the second Jackie O.?
Hey Knoxville Puma…are you talking to me????
I get carried away sometimes with my comments on CNN.
Re: Sierra Club
I just spoke to a very nice operator at the Sierra Club’s national office and I expressed my views regarding their endorsement. She said that their political committee decided to endorse him and to ask their members to volunteer to help the BO campaign. If you would like to write the director of the Sierra Club here is his e-mail: carl.pope@sierraclub.org and e-mails to the Political Committee’s can be sent to joshua.ruschhaupt@sierraclub.org
The Sierra Club’s national office is located in San Francisco, CA and their number is (415) 977-5500.
-Lara08
I’m from another part of the world, we get your news delayed.
I really would like to buy a t-shirt , but am waiting for someone to post how the sizes run, and the difference between a woman’s XL and a man’s XL.
Oops, I meant “Political Committee.”
#257 marie on 06.20.08 at 3:01 pm
I just read the article and played the videos. Feel sick to my stomach….Why am I not surprised? It’s just too surreal.
Patti what’s her name isn’t looking so good….Can they go to jail for that. Tampering with an election?
~A disgruntled Obama supporter tells why he has serious doubts about him. A very good video, nothing ugly.~
I agree with this guy’s premise, but there isn’t any proof that he was actually a supporter of Obama.
#268 – the guy looks honest, you cannot pretend for that long, 6 minute?
Just sent this to Sierra Club:
Dear sirs,
I am writing to ask you to please reconsider your decision to back BO for President
I am a member of one of the many groups who are protesting the actions of the DNC and who do NOT support this inexperienced candidate. I am one of 18 million who supports Hillary Clinton for President. We do not believe that BO is qualified to be the leader of this country. We believe that his alleged nomination is nothing more than a selection by the DNC. This selection does not reflect the people’s choice.
I am urging you NOT to support this candidate. He is bad for America and demonstrates frequently that he does not love this country.
I am surprised that a group such as yours who cherishes our national treasures could back such a candidate.
Please reconsider and withdraw your support. If you want more information on why I am making this request, please visit JustSayNoDeal.com and start investigating.
Thank you for your consideration.
From a very concerned citizen and one who LOVES the United States of America.
PUMAPac Member at blog.pumapac.org
All the videos on the front page og this blog site are on youtube … be sure to pass the links on to family and friends. As well as, a link back to Puma pac.
Lara (post #263) thank you for the email addresses. I will write a note. Did they state the basis for their decision.
I will write to Sierra Club. Like everyone else that has endorsed him, I am sure Obama paid dearly for this endorsement. It is odd it comes now while there is talk of drilling on the McCain side. I will look at where Obama stands on the environment and where McCain stands then will write my letter.
#270 pumaindy
My letter to the Sierra Club wasn’t as nice as yours, but we made similar points. I usually try to be as polite as possible, but this really burns me up. I have spent many hours each week volunteering for the Sierra Club these past few years trying to convince moderates and conservatives that being an environmentalist is not exclusively a left-wing thing and now they do this. They shouldn’t have endorsed him. They didn’t ask for the input of their members.
Thanks for writing them. They are probably getting an earful from many other members also.
-Lara08
#273 Lara08
I certainly hope so! What can they be thinking?
#259 A-Will, Thank you! If you are asking someone in the media to take a look at Puma PAC, please include at the end of the message:
PLEASE DIRECT ALL INQUIRES ABOUT PUMA PAC TO MURPHY@PUMAPAC.ORG.
Murphy really should be the person that anyone from the media who is interested in talking to Puma PAC contacts first.
You all have to go see this:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
When the Obama logo and Presidential Seal morph
#276 hillaryistheone,
I just left the following comment:
Knoxville, Operation: NObama
June 20th, 2008 4:35 pm ET
“Vero Possumus,” eh? “Yes, we can” use mindless gimmicks and empty slogans to deceive a country… well, maybe not the whole country… maybe only a little less than half of one of the two major political parties.
“Vero Possumus” wasn’t even enough for the Obama campaign to close the deal in the Democratic Party. He paid off… er, needed supposed leaders of the party to carry him over the finish line.
Axelrod, if this is the best you got, then it will be easier for us–the true Democrats who know what the principles of our party are and will never forget them–to stop you than I thought.
We’re coming to take our party back. Count on it.
Puma Democrat, true Democrat, and future of the Democratic Party.
Btw, vero possumus literally translates into “we truly can.” I would have gone with “sic, possumus vero” (yes, we truly can), but the folks over at the Obama camp didn’t ask me.
Of course, had they asked, I would have told them to put on Obama’s “seal”:
“Amerigani, osculamini asinum meum”
(Americans can kiss my ass)
You know, Obama can stand there and stroke the masses while his seal says what he’s really thinking.
I cannot believe the audacity of that moron!!!!!
They must have deleted yous Knox, they deleted mine already. I had Hitler reincarnated!!
#275 – Knoxville Puma – I agree. I was actually going to do that only if/when they contacted me again. In the About section of the PUMA PAC Murphy is already listed as the “go to” person. I was also hesitant to list one specific individual because I really think this movement is larger than just our PAC, which is why I referenced the JustSayNoDeal site. Anyway, when
they do contact me I will definitely direct them to Murphy.
No, mine is still in line. I’d have to say that, while I understand your sentiment, Hitler reincarnated!! might have been considered a bit much by the moderators…
I’m still hoping mine will get through.
Why would Edwards want to get mixed up with this guy? He is a dictator and and I am tired of the propaganda!
Wish DNC chairman Dean could hold meetings with all SDs, to discuss how to deal with this issue better. How to carry the voters’ voice, and make the Party truly united. Do not force, but follow the voters’ will. Thought that’s why SDs are there for. We have to leave the door open for them to re-consider the popular votes. Democratic Party, must be democratic and put PEOPLE’s will first. Otherwise, why not they just merge to Rebuplican?
I notice that the voter’s WILL was EXTREMELY important to the DNC until about – ‘er – June 3 or so?
Seems the DNC under-estimated Hillary. OOPs.
I can’t find yours Knox?? I went back and put mine in again and it is still there waiting moderation. They will remove it soon.
#245 Maryland PUMA, I appreciate your reminder. I have read some remarks here that I’ve found personally offensive. One of the reasons that I oppose Obama is because he and his supporters have compartmentalized the Democratic Party by making generalizations about groups of people that are grounded in stereotypes. We can do better.
Its there after I did a refresh!!
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She made a personal appeal for assistance in retiring the outstanding debt owed to vendors by the campaign. It is often the case that the eventual nominee pays off at least a part of the debt incurred by a competitor’s campaign. It is clear that Hillary does not want to be in a position to have to accept that kind of “help”. There certainly will be strings attached.
If you can spare it, please donate whatever you can right now.
Some of you have concerns about donating to Hillary’s website due to the Obama contact page on the front of the site. We confirmed with campaign headquarters that the money is going to retire her debt, NOT TO OBAMA OR THE DNC. In fact, it is ILLEGAL for the money to go to anyone other than the Hillary Clinton For President primary campaign.
Help Hillary Retire Her Debt!
However, if you prefer, you can mail a check to Hillary’s primary campaign office:
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Broke barriers and prevailed over the conventional political wisdom. She became the first woman to win state presidential primaries and caucuses – 23 in all – and blazed open a path for generations to come.
Brought millions of new voters into the Democratic Party from all backgrounds, races, and faiths – over 18 million Americans cast their votes for Hillary Clinton, more votes than any presidential primary candidate in history.
Captured a strong and important coalition of supporters including Hispanics, Women, and Blue Collar households – who are now a stronger part of the Democratic family to support a victory for Democrats in the Fall.
Helped bring women out in record numbers. The number of women who participated in the Democratic primary rose from 7.56 million in 2004 to more than 21 million in 2008 – from 54% of the primary electorate in 2004 to 57% in 2008.
Inspired Hispanic Americans to participate in the 2008 Democratic primary process in record numbers. This group of swing voters, swung strongly for Hillary by nearly 65% with at least 2.5 million if not more casting their vote for her.
Despite Senator Obama’s advantage among young people and African American voters, Hillary Clinton – throughout her campaign – continued to have an open and active dialogue with both groups on the issues that matter to them and the solutions she proposed that would specifically help their lives.
Ran a tireless campaign of over the past 18 months with late nights and early mornings. She participated in 1,200 events over 500 days with her longest day on the trail lasting over 26 hours.
Engaged more than 100,000 volunteers and over 10,000 traveling volunteers worked on her behalf to help make 27.3 million calls to voters and knock on almost 1 million doors.
Used innovative technology to communicate, fundraise, and mobilize supporters. Highlights include microsites like the HillaryHub, FactHub and the Hillary I Know, the Sopranos spoof video, the world’s largest political town hall and state of the art phone-banking tools.
Raised $225 million from donors big and small across America, including nearly $100 million in grassroots donations and over $10 million online in a single 24 hour period following Pennsylvania’s primary. These totals were exceeded only by the fundraising efforts of the Obama for America campaign.
Set out bold and progressive policy proposals that focused on specific solutions for America’s families. She addressed the mortgage crisis early, put forth a full universal healthcare plan and laid out a long term energy policy that included a $50 billion Strategic Energy Fund. These issues are at the forefront of Americans’ minds and the Democratic agenda, and Hillary Clinton will remain on the frontlines of Democracy fighting for all Americans, many of whose voices have gone unheard for too long.
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#287 #245
I raised this issue last night when we were chatting also. We love all of our PUMAs here and this issue is much larger than gender.
Hi Tarma, #287 it is completely appropriate to call someone on offensive language or innuendo-sometimes in the heat of the moment we forget ourselves-just need a gentle reminder to calm down and be kind –we can be angry and respectful at the same time
I have this feel about Donna B … and that is – that she doesn’t actually read Hillary’s supporter’s mail, but instead has this 1 generic email that she sends out to all of us so therefore she can turn around and tell everyone that we are sending HER hateful mail, and if we didn’t -why would she be sending us this horrible reply. Well Donna – could it possibly be because you did not actually read our mail in the first place?
Hello Pumas,
I believe we need to remember about the endorsements coming out right now is that BO is paying for them big time. They all know he is phoney and want the money. Let them get it. The more phoney you are, the more you have to pay for endorsements. He is so phoney, that he is going to run right through that money. That money cost him his last vestigal of integrity. It is all about the money.
I believe it is very important not to be retaliatory in expressing disapproval. Keep in mind people are being intimidated as well as bribed. They need a positive alternative. What about starting a petition to Hillary Clinton, asking her to save us from this onerous situation?
I hope you are all on BO’s email list. I am. He sent me an intimidating video email, letting me know he knew I had not yet donated to his campaign. I sent him a note back that his ½ check was in the mail for the ½ vote we got in Florida. Be sure to watch and sign up for all freebies. BO is going to be having a party. Let’s go!
The Obama campaign sent out the following press release this morning, via email:
Chicago, IL – Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton announced today that they will campaign together on Friday, June 27th. Further details to be announced
waaaaaaaaaa
#291 mpk, yes, we can absolutely be angry and respectful at the same time. Which is exactly why I would not resort to name-calling or innuendo! I certainly don’t support censorship, but would suggest that we all have a responsibility to use our words thoughtfully and without violence. I know that when I feel too activated or heated, I choose to step back so that my response can be tempered by reason and not guided by emotion! Having said that, the most important thing is that we remain open to honest dialogue and feedback related to the ways we are communicating. Thanks!
#276 hillaryistheone
Looks like someone hit that eagle with a baseball and its roadkill now, his arrogance amazes me yet again
Hey PUMAs….if you haven’t read this, it really is worth the time.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/no-hard-feelings-really/
#289 MPK, I got the same email…I love the Stevenson quote.
I just got home from work, passed some flyers out today. I am really upset thaT hILLARY IS GOING TO CAMPAIGN WITH bo, ANYONE HAVE A CLUE WHAT THIS MEANS?
WHY DOSN’T THE dnc JUST SEE THE LIGHT?
mijabsnji – I wonder also. I am sad that she is doing that. I keep hoping that there is some grand plan to get her the nomination….
Anyone have any figures on Hillary’s debt? I would like to know if we are making a dent.
It has been eerily quiet here today. I hope that it is just a slow news day…
I hope there is some good news on fox tonight, there was last night
Don’t forget the AOL straw poll, it is 64- 36 Mccain
Yes – voted. What’s up with WY? It is always red.
Maybe the brain dead DNC wants to see if the polls change with Hillarys help. The only way it will change for me is if they make Hillary the nom,I have told them that every time they asked for donations, I only gave at Hillarys site.
oh good just refreshed. WY is red again.
#307 mijabsnji – meeeee toooooo
we need to let the DNC know that making her the side kick won’t help, they need to make her the nom.
On Fox tonight talk about Israel conducting a bunch of training exercises in the skies……
#311 BrooklynNY
Scary. This feels a bit like ‘the calm before a storm’. Hope I am wrong.
Hi PUMAs-just getting on for the day and catching up on the posts. I see that some people read riverdaughter’s satire as something real. I sent the satire to my two senators (one of whom is named in the satire) to let them know that (1) being involved in the check list has hurt all women and (2) they have set back woman’s credibility in the workplace by the checklist meeting they had. I let them know that it was a satire at the beginning of my email and urged them to read through the whole thing. One of our senators is a Hillary supporter (Patty Murray) and the other one (Maria Cantwell) said she would go with whoever won although I believe she is a Hillary supporter.
maybe the storm will be his!
#314 mijabsnji
I like the way you think.
Just heard a little while ago Hillary is supposed to campaign with BO probably in W., DC next week. I think they said on Friday, June 27. Bo is supposed to meet with some group on Saturday that Hillary is meeting with on Thursday. Something about donors….I kind of tune that stuff out whenever I hear anything about Hillary’s donors being asked to give to BO.
It’s troubling to think of her with BO, but then I thought, if you put the two of them together side-by-side he’s going to look like an idiot.
One thing I like about democracy is the people get to choose. It may be a dirty process but it often amazes me that in the end, often, though not always, truth wins out. It might take a good fight, but in the end, it’s kind of hard to keep truth hidden. People in democracies just don’t like to be told what to do.
So no matter how it ends up, whether she appears with him or not, its not going to sway us, may disgust us, disappoint us, make us sad, but won’t sway us. He’ll look like an idiot and it just may become all the more obvious what a huge mistake it would be let this guy walk away with something he didn’t earn and doesn’t deserve.
312 pumaindy on 06.20.08 at 7:36 pm
It scary for sure. But it doesn’t surprise me. I agree with you I hope this isn’t the calm before the storm. The one thing about the Israelis is they don’t wait around for the bad thing to happen. They make sure they’re ready beforehand. I was hoping that attitude would rub off on our govt, but apparently doesn’t seem to have. I was glad to hear they were preparing.
#317
Or maybe….”sending a message” is a better way to describe it.
#316brooklyny-”It’s troubling to think of her with BO, but then I thought, if you put the two of them together side-by-side he’s going to look like an idiot.” You are so right. As I have said in previous posts, Hillary is intelligent and she knows what she is doing. We PUMAs know her and understand her so it is important, in my opinion, that we not reveal her strategy on this website when we figure it out. The DNC and *61′s followers aren’t quite so bright. So, we can sit back, keep doing our work, and watch as the chosen one’s crown slowly slides off his head.
Hello Pumas!
Just reporting in very quickly. I hope I’ll be able to catch up on everyone’s posts but work has been crazy busy and I haven’t had much computer time in the last few days.
I finished sending all my superdelegate emails in the beginning of the week (through lobbydelegates.com). I’ve had some good responses from openminded delegates and Hill supporters and some ignorant ones from some BO committeds. Lots have come back “failure” or “delayed” but it’s still worth the time and effort for the ones that do go through.
I sent Paula Abeles a thank you/support email today. Her email is spabeles@comcast.net if you don’t have it. She expressed eagerness to hear from like-minded citizens amdist the nastiness she’s receiving from some BObots. She was wonderful on Cavuto and Fox News. Bless her heart. Here are some YouTube links:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ek-idgd8JJg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sG1uy_efHzU
Evy ~ #114 I read the David Brooks article. Thanks for the link! I’ll light some more candles as soon as I post this. All the positive energy we can put out there, right?
PA4HILL08 ~ #135 Loved the “must read”!!
GoSueF4Hil ~ your letter to Emily’s List was right on!
I also completed the DNC Survey that I received in the mail. That was a pleasure. Especially satisfying was answering the last question regarding how much I would be happy to contribute for the promotion of the Democratic Party, Candidate, Blahblahblah. I made a big X through the whole thing and wrote …… “You’re kidding, right?” I enclosed a copy of the letter we all emailed and faxed to Dean and I enclosed a copy of the “Notice to Change Your Voter Registration” I received when I switched from the unDemocratic Party to Independent (Unaffiliated in CT). Ratfinks.
Murph, I’ll commit to some amount. Promise. I don’t know if I can swing $100 between now and July 20, but I will do my best. Payday is next Friday. My heart’s in this and we’re all working hard for our cause – but I know $$ is desperately needed, too.
Another thought for a “friend” – remember Jane Harman, House of Rep. from California? I had a lot of respect for her support and outspokenness for Hillary during the primaries. What’s going on with her? Anyone know? I’ll check into that. I may want to send her thank you a letter. It makes me sad the way so many are caving for BO.
I’ve been out of the blogs and off these boards for the last few days for the length of time needed to update my brain. I need to find out about Dean and his efforts to block the roll call at the convention. Sigh. It’s hard to catch up – even missing a few days!
Thanks for all you ALL are doing. We just have to make a difference. We just do.
xo, Lizzy
#319 webfoot on 06.20.08 at 7:56 pm
You are so right. So far it looks like nothing is happening according to plan of the DNC. When you just don’t get it, you just don’t get it. Doesn’t matter how many pretty ladies you put out there, smiling pretty and making lists….
When you don’t get it, you don’t get it. Sad. But true.
Murphy & everyone:
Food for thought:
Based on the youtube video we saw today “Obama supporter has doubts”…
1. Is one able to get proof of primaries personal voting record?
If so, I think it could be an effective TV ad if we could find real people with print outs/proof of voting record stating that they have reflected on their vote and will not vote for *61 on the GE due to A…B…C…reasons. I think it could effectively influence other *61 supporters and make them reflect about “the person” (*61).
So when noname says 90% of his donations come from 1.5 million people….is he talking about total amount of monies or total amount of people donating? In other words, could it be that he ACTUALLY gets more monies from the 10% ???
We should be able to find this out. Just because he has opted for private funding….shouldn’t we under his “transparent” government concept be able to review where each and every one of those pennies comes from during the GE campaign???
Hello all!
I think Dean has a separate email as governor; Pelosi has 2 – senate & speaker of house.
We also can slightly alter our own email address too.
I believe we should have been cc’ing every and all action items, letters, petitions etc to media outlets EACH time sth is sent out to Dean, Pelosi etc. AND even SHOW who is all cc’d in the mail to Dean…? Or would that somehow backfire on us…? If so, we can send out press releases each & every time we do sth, and when sth significant happens (web stats, ugly BO fan posts, etc. (kinda like when ausman sent out the copies of angry emails he got fm BO finance ppl in FL;) that got a public response fm him immediately!))
WE must also emphasize each and every time it is THEY who have and continue to be the divisive ones….And NOT bc of HRC OR ‘long hotly contested primary season’ (which also implies it is HRC fault bc she stayed in for all states so therefore the long primary ha ve caused all the ‘divisiveness’ & so will ‘just need time’ bc it was a ‘long, hard fought primary’~~~grrrr!!!!
Anyhoo, I definitelhy believe press releases should go out each and every time regardless of what we decide to do with Dean et al.
In Michigan, Ohio, Penn, msnbc says BO is leading by
@6 points, so ‘hrc’s argument that she is more electable bc she can win these swing states has already been pounced on as a ‘aha, hrc is wrong, we don’t need her at all” stance in their reports
I am sick & tired of everyone, including the Repub ppl saying hrc ppl is only ‘white older women’ — wouldn’t the GOP benefit more by pointing out just how diverse her support base is…? of course i keep hearing this fm the msnbc ppl & that horrid women fm that horrid conservative grp,’independent women’s forum’!!!
they just said that if they can show how BO got his money & how it contradicts evewrything he says, then this funding flip flop might work against him but if not, it will work out to his benefit bc he will have so much more money to treat the press right, treat the clintons more, provide more things to the press,e tc. … so it will be well worth him to flip flop now bc it will pay off big, even if it hurts him in the short term.” argh!
K Olbermann said on Fri, BO & JM were tied at 46%; but over the wkd, Newsweek poll shows a huge jump for BO==56% to 30-sth% for JM!!! And he said, ‘all HRC supporters, meaning white women, also have switched huge in favor of BO, an even bigger jum,p of 20%!. aaaarrrrggggghhh!! I hope this isn’t really true, even if, as KO said as caveat this is same polling numbers at this time for Dukakis too…
Good on the intl front==there was that intl women’s election & voting rights org that said concerned ab HRC treatment on the NPR show….
Just saw on KO too, that John Cusack!!! is on a new ad for BO!!! I really like JC, & I think he is just dpoing this as a good Dem, as I don’t recall he ever did anything for BO beforehand….His ad is all ab JM as the Bush 3rd term…
Has anyone heard anything more ab Streisand…?!!!!!?
Also heard the Hispanic Ntl Congress decided yesterday (at leas teh TX chapter) met this wk and all decided to make a statement of support for BO!!!! That they resented all the snide inferences ab ‘Hispanic voters won’t vote black’…What can we do to get them to keep their support of HRC or if politiaally pressured by dean & DNC then just backoff of enthusiastic support of BO…???
And the labor unions…? They are H UGE and in middle of their own inter=union struggles. HRC’s endorsed union is supposedly very powerful…enuff that even the msnbc is wondering what the union will do and if they willl ‘get on board’…!!!! the Union can do more hardhitting ads, even if they are the ‘oogie boogie 527 ads…unions are known for not pulling their punches in their ads,e tc. besides, we all know that GOP will go full force with 527s no matter what BO & moveon.org have pledged to not ‘go there to the dark side’ of 527 ads.!
And only Wolf on cnn mentioned the bizarre new campaign logo for BO, which is total rif on the official presidential seal…!!! wolf did manage to get in btn brazilla & repub comments, was that he didn’t ever recall a time when the candidate took on the presidential seal during the campaign…but it went no where, of course!
Good work all….I hope this stays strong & proud….
#321 LatinPuma
A good idea, but wouldn’t there be a privacy issue with this unless the individual volunteered this information?
Voting is a private matter.
I’m sure a lot has already been posted about BO’s reversal on campaign financing, but here’s my bit anyway. A piece showing how fabricated his claims are.
What’s not mentioned below is that Obama is going back on his word. He pledged earlier to take public campaign financing…but now that it seems he’s better off not to, he’s weaseling out of it.
Anything to win. Part of the new politics?
Obama’s Lame Claim About McCain’s Money
June 20, 2008
Obama says McCain is “fueled” by money from lobbyists and PACs, but those sources account for less than 1.7 percent of McCain’s money.
Summary
Obama announced he would become the first presidential candidate since 1972 to rely totally on private donations for his general election campaign, opting out of the system of public financing and spending limits that was put in place after the Watergate scandal.
One reason, he said, is that “John McCain’s campaign and the Republican National Committee are fueled by contributions from Washington lobbyists and special interest PACs.”
We find that to be a large exaggeration and a lame excuse. In fact, donations from PACs and lobbyists make up less than 1.7 percent of McCain’s total receipts, and they account for only about 1.1 percent of the RNC’s receipts.
From factcheck.org, a great site, by the way.
I just want to thank again everyone who replied to me last night. I know I wasn’t able to respond to all of them. I’m still going through the posts made after I signed off. I won’t have a lot of time tonight, but will check in now and then when I can. I have realized, though, that I cannot keep up with all the posts, you guys are like a raging river!
I’ll be on the road this weekend, so I won’t be here much. Back next week, hopefully.
I’m sure today’s blatant act of going back on his word will open a lot of people’s eye to BO’s true character. The video linked to above was a good example.
A good weekend to all my new friends here!
To one of the posters above -to me – her campaigning with the no named one ONCE is what generally happens when they endorse him – Gore – once – Edwards – once – Kennedy once – Richardson – once or maybe twice – if she campaigns a lot – then something is up -
My friend just told me that Bill Richardson will be on Hannity tonite
See you when you get back Bron!
Thanks, Murphy!
Not sure if this article was already posted but its interesting
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html?em&ex=1214107200&en=98dbf7f8bae1fe38&ei=5087
#221 anonymous
Thank you for the Ellen clips, that was very nice of you. They’re great and funny. Shows Hillary’s intelligence, she doesn’t skip a beat in her off the cuff remarks. And the remarks are on topic not rehash.
And thanks for setting me straight on who Ellen’s supporting, I really should watch tv someday!
ha! big surprise!! even hmo’s managed to score higher than congress!:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108142/Confidence-Congress-Lowest-Ever-Any-US-Institution.aspx
i heard on msnbc that bo’s flip on public financing will only hurt him if more info/acts reveal he is truly a difft person than in primaries; they stated several examples but the one caught my attn was ‘howard dean was thought crazy, then he screamed & he proved he was crazy!’
i don’t recall much bf ab whether dean was/is considered ‘crazy’ or just what exactly it is ab him they are referring to, altho it does kinda explain why a single moment of unguarded emotion in the form of a yowl/scream was such a big deal and eventually led to his downfall (I mean really, ppl, a scream? that is how one evaluates prez candi?)…i thought it was way overblown back then, but if those in the know know more ab what dean is like, and those in the know saw this scream as yet another validation of their concerns ab his ‘craziness’ and thus worked behind the scenes to derail his campaign….hmmm??
Anyone know anything ab dean’s “craziness” that these pundits were referring to…?
thx all – pumalicious!;-)
A news item on Yahoo today quotes Obama as saying Republicans will try to instill fear in voters by playing up the fact he is ‘black’. Since he is the progeny of a black father and a WHITE mother, it would seem to me that it is he, himself, who is playing this card. He talks about bipartisanship, reaching across the aisle, and bridging differences, but I’m missing the part about how.
Hi, I am not a regular poster, but I am here often. I just saw the new offer to blog and wanted to, but I’m a bit confused.
I’m already registered with WordPress but would like to be a part of the PUMA community forums. If someone could let me know how to do that, that would be great. Thanks.
I just got a call on my home phone from someone stating they were from “issues and answers” research organizations. The first question was my age. I interrupted her and asked if this was for *61. She said no, I asked the same of McCain and she said no. I told her my age. She asked if I was going to vote in Nov. I told her not unless Hillary is the nominee! She didn’t know what to say. she just said so your not going to vote. I told her I did not know, I cannot make a decision until after the convention. she said thanks and hung up.
So much for that research!
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