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COLLECTIVE ACTION
From now until next Wednesday morning (June 25, 2008), please send get well cards via email and fax to every email address and every fax number that you can find for every supposed leader of the Democratic Party. Do not send them to those Democratic leaders who are well and still in touch with the party’s principles, of course!
Even though they are the ones who created the problems, let’s try to encourage them as they cope with the tribulations and suffering of the Democratic Party during this difficult time. Please write the following message:
“Dear DNC,
I am saddened to learn that the Democratic Party has not been doing very well and is no longer able to represent the people who have been its most loyal supporters over the years as a result of its abandonment of our core principles of equal treatment, full democratic participation and fair reflection. I hope that the principles of our Democratic Party will make a full recovery. Get well soon!
[Name, City, State]”
If you will be participating in this action between now and the middle of next week, email me at brianknoxvilletnpuma@gmail.com, write in the subject GET WELL SOON, tell me your username, hometown, and state (so I can get a sense of the numbers who are participating and the geographical range of our action), and tell me who you sent your well wishes to and when.
Finally, please share all working fax numbers and email addresses in your comments so that we can all send out as many “get well cards” as possible. I would particularly be interested in having the fax numbers and email addresses of the 19 members of the RBC who voted in favor of inappropriately giving Michigan delegates to Senator Obama that he did not earn, including four Michigan delegates that Senator Clinton DID earn.
Thank you!
UPDATE:
My new email address is knoxvillepuma@gmail.com.
Please email me at knoxvillepuma@gmail.com if you are participating in the GET WELL SOON action as described in #1 above. I need to know how many of us are doing it and from which cities/states the cards will be going to the undemocratic Democratic Party. Let me know!
I, Knoxville Puma, do declare formally and publicly that the baby puma in Overnight Kitten June 19th, 2008 is my Mini-Me. He shall be my face here at Puma PAC.
When you think of me, picture him! GROWL
Actum Knoxvillensis anno domini due millesimo octavo, die nonodecimo mensis Junii. Scriptum manu mey Knoxvillis Pumensis.
New York Times news on OB.
He apoligizes to Muslim women;
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/18/obama-camp-apologizes-to-muslim-women/
OB opts out of public financing;
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/the-early-word-obama-opts-out-of-public-financing/index.html?hp
Pressure!
Knoxville Puma, you are on a roll today. When I think of you I will picture your Mini-Me.
Check your email
Was dcinvegas@gmail.com thrown under the Puma bus last evening?
Great new post with good information for all who choose to join us! Good job, Murphy!
how will the pumapac affect the election in OH,MI and FLA. BHO is leading in those polls. I’m sick over this.
FYI-
I admire this Clinton Delegate from Colorado- Sacha Millstone- for standing up for what she believes in—
See this story. I don’t know if it was posted before- but if not- here it is:
Clintonite rage could burn Democratic hope
http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_9508204%22%3Ehttp://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_9508204
Yvonne, there are five months before the election. If you get sick over every biased poll … or, even nonbiased poll … that comes out between now and then, you won’t make it.
Calm down and go to the action center for constructive activities.
#8 yvonneintx, We will have enough of an impact. Don’t worry. In addition to all the thoughtful letters that are sent to Democratic Party leaders who have dropped the ball, we are planning ways to reach the public in order to make every voter take the principles upon which the Democratic Party and our system of representative government depend into account as they make their choice in the voting booth.
#10 SunnyPA, Agreed. Also, beginning next week, we’re going to have to watch Hillary do what she has to do to remain in the good graces of the very so-called leaders who did this to her and to us. Just stay strong and know that she wants us to do exactly what we’re doing: make our voices heard by those who refuse to listen.
#9 evy, RIGHT ON! Everyone, if you have not looked at the link that evy has sent to us in #9, please go up and read the story about Sacha Millstone, about her strength of conviction, and about her making sure her voice is heard. We should write to her a single letter from Puma PAC to express our solidarity with her and our deepest admiration of her strength.
#8 yvonneintx, Also, take note that Sacha Millstone is a CO delegate. Colorado is an important “new map” swing state for Obama. He’s hoping to turn it blue, so to speak. This action by Sacha Millstone may just be enough to turn enough voters in CO off and help BO lose in that state!
Re: An e-mail I received on June 19, 2008 from icount@clintondems.com
Dear Clinton Dem,
Today Senator Barbara Mikulski joined Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) and Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) to announce their “Checklist for Change,” a list of ten issues Congress can immediately address to improve the lives of the American people. They include: providing equal pay for equal work, keeping jobs in America, making health care affordable, taking care of our military families and veterans, restoring America’s credibility in the world, protecting our environment, making America energy independent, preparing for future disasters, enforcing fiscal accountability and protecting the family checkbook. This is a blatant pander – a “checklist” of hot button items to women.
Call me cynical, but this sudden urge to “do something” about issues most important to women strikes me as “just words.”
___________________________________________________
Please phone these leaders and tell them if they really care about the concerns of women they should stand up and endorse Hillary Clinton. If they care about equal rights and equal treatment that they should stand up against sexism in the Democratic party. If they care about women’s rights they should investigate the treatment of Hillary Clinton by the media. If they care about reforming healthcare, they should help Hillary Clinton get into the White House. If they care about keeping jobs in America, they should not be endorsing the guy that once again has flip-flopped on NAFTA.
Specifically ask Senator McCaskill “Why, after accepting approximately $500,000 from Emily’s List did you feel no obligation to back the more qualified female candidate for President?”
Sen. Klobuchar accepted roughly $300,000 from Emily’s List. Why didn’t she endorse Hillary?
Sen. Boxer was mum during this whole primary season. Why the sudden concern about women’s issues now? Senator Boxer launched an investigation into the horrific treatment of the Dixie Chicks after one of them publicly criticized Bush. Where is that outrage about the treatment Hillary has received? Where is the investigation?
NOT ONE OF THEM called out the media for the sexism!
Here is a video Link. http://video.aol.com/video-detail/womens-checklist-for-change/1547201665
1. Senator Klobuchar
1200 Washington Avenue South, Suite 250
Minneapolis, MN 55415
Main Line: 612-727-5220
2. Senator McCaskill,St. Louis
5850 A Delmar Blvd
St. Louis, MO 63112
Phone:314-367-1364
3. Senator Debbie Stabenow
221 W. Lake Lansing Road, Suite 100
East Lansing, MI 48823
Phone: (517) 203-1760
4. Senator Mikulski
503 Hart Office Building, Washington D.C., 20510
Phone: (202) 224-4654
5. Senator Mary Landrieu
Washington, DC
Voice: (202)224-5824
6. Senator Boxer
Washington, D.C.
112 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-3553
Los Angeles
312 N. Spring Street, Suite 1748
Los Angeles, CA 90012
(213) 894-5000
7. Senator Stabenow
2988 Jackson Federal Building
915 2nd Avenue
Seattle, Washington 98174
Phone: (206) 553-5545
* special thanks to Jennifer Lee for work on this.
Why is Obama afraid to debate McCain fairly?
Toward the end of the primaries and caucuses, Obama said that he’d debate McCain “any time, any place.” But now he’d rather debate McCain behind closed doors, avoiding the joint town hall appearance by fighting McCain over technicalities about how to run them, rather than debate McCain publicly and answer questions from real Americans like me.
And now I rad on CNN’s website that Obama is trying once again to unethically use rules to tie McCain’s hands behind his back. Just another same old trick that Obama used in 1996 to win his seat in the Illinois state Senate. That’s right, early on in the nomination process, Obama promised to use only public funding if he were to become the nominee. Now that he had limitless resources, he’s reneged on that promise. Even so, he’s not above using his new power over the DNC to press for an investigation aimed at forcing McCain to use only public funding to fight Obama in the general election. Obama, you’ve got to be joking.
i guess Obama just can’t debate openly or fight fairly. Just look at his record…
Doesn’t look like Obama can take the heat, and he’s willing to say one thing one day and the exact opposite the next…
OBAMA-FLIP. OBAMA-FLOP.
FLIP, FLOP.
FLIP, FLOP.
OBAMA DOES THE FLIP, FLOP.
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#15 MCR, seriously. Can we have the kitchen sink too? What about motherhood? apple pie?
Who writes these ridiculous things? Checklist for Change? Please.
My comment like the one above in #16 (though changed a bit to fit the context and phrased better w/o typoes) has appeared at the beginning of the comments at CNN’s political ticker story “Obama’s funding decision makes history”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/19/obamas-funding-decision-makes-history/#comments
Hear me GROWL!
typos, not typoes… sorry… I’ve had a Dan Quayle moment…
#17 murphy on 06.19.08 at 11:21 am
Murphy, I agree. Ridiculous! Another reason why I am disenchanted with Dems who have lost my support.
I found the lack of support for Hillary from women’s groups to be surprising & pathetic, incuding Gloria Steinam’s (sp.) remarks.
Does anyone know the name of the newspaper in Indiana that supported Hillary during the primary. I thought I might write them a letter. Also, if anyone knows of any more Newspapers that supported Hillary, list their names if you can. Thanks!!!!!
I’ve read in different blogs NOBAMA/NONAME supporters are angry with us PUMA Democrat. They’re angry we’re not drinking their KOOLAID. Truth is not acceptable NOBAMA/NONAME and his cult followers. He flipflop again! He said since last year, candidates must be PUBLICLY FUNDED ($80 million – taxpayers money) to end influence of PAC, now he’s backing away from that. When McCain asked him to sign an agreement over a month ago to stand on his word, NOBAMA/NONAME backed away from it.
#18 Knoxville Puma on 06.19.08 at 11:29 am
I commented on the CNN Ticker as well, but my comment is still awaiting MODERATION. LOL
I just saw that there is a wikipedia entry for PUMA Pac:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PUMA_Pac
Was I the only one to know nothing about this entry at wikipedia before?
#15 mcr. Thanks for the info. I think #7 is Senator Maria Cantwell’s office in the State of Washington. (My home state!)
I know everyone is saying that NONE of these women stood up for Hillary during the primaries, but that is not completely accurate. Please click on the link below to see an article about Senator Mikulski taking the media to task about the sexism against Hillary Clinton. That said, we should really thank her and hold her accountable for her continued actions by asking her why she would now support the DNC, an organization that allowed this outrageous behavior to continue unabated. Further, we should convey that one of the reasons we are boycotting the election is directly because of the DNC’s inactions to stop this behavior.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/senator-mikulski-criticizes-media/
#25 A-Will on 06.19.08 at 12:03 pm
Re: You said, “I know everyone is saying that NONE of these women stood up for Hillary during the primaries….”
I and others are not saying this–overgeneralizing.
#18
My comment at CNN’s political ticker that I told you about at #18 is now longer at the top of the comments. It was for a little while. Now you have to go down to 11:15am…
I think I finally shut that Obamabot us who was usurping my name over there.
Thank you, Murphy, for sending me the ammunition to do to the Bot what the Bot had coming!
Trying to shame him didn’t work, but exposing his own words to the light of day and for everyone to see sure did!
At CNN’s political ticker story “Obama’s funding decision makes history”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/19/obamas-funding-decision-makes-history/#comment-1276330
there is this comment:
captain.
June 19th, 2008 11:52 am ET
“Everything about this campaign and this year makes history.”
To which I responded (a comment I hope will get passed the moderators):
Brian Knoxville, TN
June 19th, 2008 12:22 pm ET
captain,
“‘Everything about this campaign and this year makes history.’
“Are you referring to the way in which the first woman and the first African American ran competitively for the nomination of a major political party, or are you referring to the way in which the first woman and the first African American ran competitively for the nomination of a major political party only for the media and the supposed leaders of the Democratic Party to screw it all up by displaying excessive bias against one of the candidates and by remaining silent as others displayed excessive bias against one of the candidates, respectively?”
#25 mcr You’re right. I should not have used a definitive. My apologies.
I have read many blogs, however, by bloggers stating that none of these Senators said or did anything to publicly denounce what was happening. I simply wanted to contribute information that was contrary to that assertion so that we can all speak and write to the Senators intelligently. If we do not, I am afraid we will end up sounding uninformed.
I found out that Indianapolis Star is one of the newpapers that endorsed Hillary. They are the largest newspaper in Indiana. I thought I might write them a letter… I am going to try later and find some more that endorsed her too.
#24 Knoxville Puma
First time for me. When did that happen?
#31 goandersen, I’m not sure. Actually, I noticed it at least 2 or 3 days ago, but since then have not noticed anyone else bring it up. It’s worth noting!
FYI-
For some reason- comments on Hillary’s blog site are actually making it on there- as long as they are positive- but can be positive for Hill. I posted that I would write her name in in the general- and it made it on there. Someone else posted that he still had hopes she would prevail at the convention- and it made it there.
Something is up- maybe they want to show how much support she has.
Here is the link-
http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/06/17/014414#view_comments
Does anyone know how many (what percentage) of us there are? Us being the ones who will vote against Obama. I read that 36% of Hillary’s supporters will not vote for Obama. With all of these “nobama” sites popping up, are there any statistics on those of us voting for McCain instead of Obama?
#32 Knoxville Puma
You need to check your email. ASAP
Larry Sinclair.
Did anyone try to ‘save’ the press release statement of LS in Citizen Wells?
I tried to save it and was unable to. Hmmmmm.
#36 goanderson
The transcript is still on Citizen Wells. You can cut and paste transcript of LS news conference and then save it as MS Word doc. I didn’t try saving the link. -Lara08
7#37 lara08,
Oh, I have it. I just thought it was strange that I couldn’t save it like I have others.
I am pretty disgusted with the methods the Democrat party is using to try to reach women. The use sexism and mock Hillary the most qualified candidate and the winner of the popular vote. Then they attempt to use fear to control women with their abortion rhetoric, then the Moveon.org “you can’t have Alex for your 100 year war” ad which is an outright lie regarding what McCain said. Then they go off with the cookie baking contests and Michelle makeover bonding. Do they really think women are interested in some sort of fashion and cookie bonding with the wife of a sexist pig when we could have had a woman president? Does their disgust of fear mongering only apply to dealing with men but fear mongering women is OK. I guess so they clearly have different standards for how to treat men and women. Really I can’t believe most of the BO supporters I meet are smart enough to find the voting booth. All I heard at the caucus was “She is divisive” I don’t want another president named Clinton” “I want change”. What are they going to do drive all these parrots to the polls.
#39 seattlegirl
Yes, what’s up with that?! That’s what the BO people I spoke to kept saying: “HC is so divisive”, “I guess I just want a change and don’t want another Clinton.” Were they given this script by the BO people? These BO supporters were seemingly smart people with graduate degrees. I guess there’s something to be said about the herd mentality. BO kept saying that his followers were educated and affluent and HC’s weren’t (which wasn’t true). I think some people don’t like stepping out of the box.
Someone else mentioned BO’s similarities to Bush II. Back in 2000 people outside of TX would ask me if Bush was as awful as he was rumored to be. I would say that he was much much worse and that it didn’t make any sense to me why the race was so tight (with Gore). I couldn’t believe the general public couldn’t see past this phony. They didn’t and Bush turned out to be much much worse. People don’t want to see BO for who he is. I stood by my view on Bush then and I stand by what I know to be true about BO. The emperor has no clothes and it makes BO’s people angry when we say that. -Lara08
#39 Unlike many of us here, I haven’t left the party yet – though I have stopped contributing financially. I am hopeful (naive?) that I can continue to work from within the party to help change much of what you’re talking about. The methods of the DemocratIC party have surely seen better days… but my husband is in the other party and their methods are much the same. Oh, for a viable 3rd party with Hillary at the helm! That’s not likely, at least this year, but I do believe that through protest and the power of pocketbook, our voices can, MUST be heard. And from all indications, we ARE being heard! I am long-time friends with one of the women who sat on the Rules committee (who voted for Hilary) and SHE is the kind of person that we need in the party leadership. If there were more of HER up there, the party would be a great place! She is the epitomy of integrity, honesty, loyalty and grace. We need to fill the party ranks with smart, savvy women of honor and then maybe, just maybe we can get our party back.
Murphy,
The sight is looking great! It just gets better every day! Thank you so much for all you are doing! I appreciate it so much!
Re: letters to 10 women senators,
I’m tailoring my letters to the individual senators….constructing my comments to reflect their positions.
BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT NONE of THESE SENATORS came out in any kind of strong VOCAL manner to object to Hillary’s treatment! THAT’S INEXCUSABLE! If they claim to be leaders for women’s concerns and issues, WHERE WERE THEY?!!! For too long we’ve made excuses when women stood back and let one of their own get crucified. Well, that time is over in my book! (CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!) If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem! I’m done being kind and forgiving to other women who stand back passively like good little girls when one of their own is getting royally sc’d!
THERE IS NO, and I repeat NO, excuse for it!
Here is link to Election 2008 Mayoral Endorsements by state.
http://usmayors.org/election2008/endorsements.asp
#34 jelizabeth Good question. I wonder about that, too.
I did hear on CNN the other day that 25% are voting for McCain…don’t know where they got that figure from. Candy Crowley reported that. And that figure added in with others who would not vote or write Hillary in would make it even higher. I don’t think the we can get a handle on the totoals right now…but it is evident to me that with ALL the websites popping up and with eventually enough attention given, there will be some serious polls done. I think the DNC knows it is still a BIG issue and we are not “falling in line” and “WON’T…so that is why they are parading out the 10 Senators to try to change our minds. Ha…good luck on that one DNC.
My local paper today ran an article saying “Obama has finally received Clinton bounce” … it goes on to say the pundits believe OH, FL, & PA (my home state) will elect the next president. Whomever wins 2 out of those 3 will
become Commander in Chief.
It also said OB is leadind in all 3, leading by 12 in PA … I find that hard to believe. We have work to do, PUMAs!!
# 48 heysandy
yeah we do, it’s called the Superdelegates and the delegates. We must maintain HRC’s support at the convention.
goanderson #47
I emailed all the delegates in PA, including the SDs. Many were returned “unable to connect to destination server”, along with hard failures.
hey guys,
here is something that could be an action item. it seems as if an incumbent dem who endorsed obama is getting an endorsement back from obama… and this incumbent has a primary challenger who we can donate to or help to support to beat this obama endorsing democrat!!! yeah another one to go for besides just ed o’reilly against kerry…
June 19, 2008
Categories: Barack Obama
Obama backs a conservative Dem Greg Sargent gets a copy of a radio ad Obama cut for Georgia Rep. John Barrow, a pro-war Democrat who is facing a primary challenger who has the support of liberal bloggers.
Barrow endorsed Obama back in February, which may explain this; more broadly, he’s now acting as the leader of his party and defending an incumbent. And, in case they hadn’t noticed before, he clearly still feels he owes little to the Netroots.
By Ben Smith 12:34 PM
Hello murphy and fellow PUMA’S. I am new to blogging, and finally was able to log in. I am 61 years old and read everyday 3 or 4 times and send all letters, cards, put flyers on cars anything I can do as a new Independent voting for Mccain. Keep up the good work I know we are being heard.
#50 scathcart on 06.19.08 at 3:14 pm
Welcome, Scathcart! It’s good to have you on board.
I’m mailing hard copies of today’s Daily Growl thriugh the USPS. Do we have have a mailing address? Can we get return address labels?
Hello All!
#16 Knoxville Puma,
Spot on! Also, do you notice no name is SO READY,WILLING and EAGER to sit down with OUR ENEMIES without ANY PRE-CONDITIONS, but will not debate Senator John McCain without them???!!!!!!
Goandersen – where do I sent the information – directly to Murphy or to MarylandPuma and do I give just the basics or compose a letter – do tell.
Trishfrom Canada – are you Northerngirlfrom Canada from the old HRC website – everyone has been looking for you.
I meant unless there are plenty of conditions met first!
PUMA is on Fox’s Cavuto “Your World” now.
Here is a copy of my letter to Al Gore.
Dear Mr Gore,
Thank you for the support of our country. We shared very prosperous years when you were Vice President. I appreciated your service. Since then you have received the Nobel Prize and a Grammy Award. Congratulations.
It makes me sad that I must speak out about your endorsement of Senator Obama. He is an experienced person that will certainly bring this country to ruin. His past is suspicious to say the least. Of all his questionable past associations not one person of unquestionable morals has steeped up to vouch for him. He was brought to us as a candidate without being vetted. He is now flip-flopping on everything he promised at the start of this campaign.
To name a few are his recent turn around on the NAFTA issue. I guess he meant what he said to the Canadians about ignoring his tough talk during his run against Senator Clinton and that it was just politics. Shameful! And now his decision to not accept public funding for his presidential run when he said in the beginning he would.. We can see from his lies that he will be a typical politician and not a candidate for change. He is simply driven by money and power and I believe will be a puppet president to be run by The DNC.
I have lost faith in the democratic party that has driven a wedge between us. I have been a Democrat all of my adult years and since I first voted for Jimmy Carter will now be an Independent voting for John McCain. He is honest and I respect his dedication and service to this country.
I hope in the future I will be able to take pride in the Dem Party again and rejoin the Dem Party that I will miss now. We have had an inexperienced and unvetted president for the last 8 years and I hope we don’t have to go through this again with Mr Obama.
Sincerely Yours,
P. U. M. A Democrat
I sent some funny money along also.
Now I’m off to write letter to the 10 senators for regular mailing since I had trouble getting through to their e-mails.
Nice to see you all.
thank you BROOKLYNNY. I e-mailed my letter to Claire Mccaskill today. I used to have the greatest respect for her but, have sent her several e-mail’s and called her office many times stating she has lost my respect and all of my support for her support of obama. I can’t wait to vote her out of office. Also, can’t wait to get my PUMA shirt and I made a small donation today. I haven’t seen this web site mentioned here but I think it is great and does NOT endorse obama. it has a lot of information. redstate.com. Going to watch fox’s avuto now.
HI¡¡¡¡ everyone
no news on the sinclaire affair????
#27 Knoxville Puma
hussein´s team try to force people to believe that everything about their preacher would make history
I would say that it would make a story, and I wonder if would make history too his “dirty cloth”
WHAT ACTUALLY WOULD MAKE HISTORY IS THE BIGGEST MEDIA MANIPULATION¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
#21 bluesgal on 06.19.08 at 11:47 am, WROTE,
[[ Does anyone know the name of the newspaper in Indiana that supported Hillary during the primary. I thought I might write them a letter. Also, if anyone knows of any more Newspapers that supported Hillary, list their names if you can. Thanks!!!!!]]
Try this site,
http://www.50states.com/news/
Correct address for Oprah Winfrey Show, HARPO STUDIOS: 1058 West Washington Blvd.
Chicago, IL 60607-2103
#21 bluesgal – The Indianapolis Star
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/05/02/2008-05-02_senator_clinton_wins_endorsement_of_indi.html
the polls right now do not show anything
MCCAIN, is not campaiging yet
and hussein is like the tv guide
everyday in all papers, etc
therefore, I believe the republican are waiting to use their artillery until the boy is officially nominated, & then, they could make boo-boo¡¡¡
#24 Knoxville Puma on 06.19.08 at 11:55 am, WROTE,
[[ I just saw that there is a wikipedia entry for PUMA Pac:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PUMA_Pac
Was I the only one to know nothing about this entry at wikipedia before?]]
I know I don’t. But if I may, I have a suggestion for an item that has been a sore spot of mine in this campaign season. And I think the ABOUT PUMA should include it:
Namely, To begin an investigation as to who was responsible for trying to end Hillary’s campaign so early in the primary season?
If you haven’t seen the COMPLETE ArgusLeader Committee Interview with Hillary Clinton for May 23, 2008; you might want to take a look at it. In it she mentions that even after her Ohio and Texas wins they were trying to push her out of the race. But when asked why, she remained silent; but I think she knows something we do not.
http://argusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080523/FRONTPAGECAROUSEL/80522033&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL#pluckcomments
hey everybody,
did anybody just watch neil cavuto? it was very interesting. I think her name was barbara layton? Hillary contributor, said she’s not going to back BO yet because she thinks anything can happen and seemed to thik it would. he asked her if she knew something he didn’t and she smiled and said let’s just say anything can happen. Also, Paula abeles was on, clinton supporter voting for mccain and she got the point out there that it was’t just about Hillary, it is about BO not being qualified.
To #53:
I agree he should debate John McCain. But, as an objective observer, I do agree with BO about sitting down and talking to our “enemies.” It has only been in the last 15 years or so that the United States has stopped doing that, and look at the results. We negotiated with the Soviets, China, the Nazis, etc. Talking doesn’t always prevent war, but when it does it is an awesome thing. As a PUMA, we should set aside our egos and be willing to be in favor of an issue or even agree with a candidate on an issue even if we don’t want him in the white house.
#37 Lara08 on 06.19.08 at 1:15 pm, WROTE TO,
#36 goanderson
[[ The transcript is still on Citizen Wells. You can cut and paste transcript of LS news conference and then save it as MS Word doc. I didn’t try saving the link. -Lara08]]
**************
These may also be of interest:
Posted by citizenwells on Thursday, June 19, 2008
http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/
January 18, 2008
YouTube – OBAMA’S LIMO SEX & DRUG PARTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY&NR=1
http://wordpress.com/tag/larry-sinclairs-story-is-part-of-a-larger-story/
FYI- Please comment on this-
as you will see Jr.’s trolls have the audacity to comment against Sam Donaldson on this story when all he is doing is reporting the truth. Jr’s own words and flip flopping…
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5205505&page=1
#21 bluesgal
I thought it was the Tribune. You might have to search their back stories to make sure.
Just made my first donation to Puma PAC to help Hillary into the White House.
evy,goandersen,northern, did you guys get the update on the hillary call. it is on the other thread.
#46 heysandy on 06.19.08 at 2:25 pm
[[ My local paper today ran an article saying “Obama has finally received Clinton bounce” … ]]
If true, it is probably just an Al Gore bounce, which won’t last long. Give it another few days…
#71 sheila7
what is the update? which number is it?
goandersen,
were you on the conference w/our girl?
#67 Cosmeta
I have the article.My point was that I was not able to SAVE it, and that seemed curious to me.
#74 SusyT
Nope. I need the update
it’s on the thread before this one and fairly close to the bottom. i can go back and look.
goandersen,
check the other thread for some comments….not what I was hoping to hear!
goandersen starting at 383
I would like to introduce everyone to another Puma friendlly (anti-obama) site called
http://www.obama-wire.com
#79 sheila7
Gracias
#66 JamesLF on 06.19.08 at 4:43 pm, WROTE TO
To #53:
[[ I agree he should debate John McCain. But, as an objective observer, I do agree with BO about sitting down and talking to our “enemies.” ]]
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The issue really isn’t about ‘talking” … it’s about BHO’s original response to a debate in which he was asked precisely: Would you consider sitting down and having a FACE-TO-FACE meeting with leaders of rogue nations within the first year of your presidency, if elected? And BHO answered: Yes. Yes, I would. When Hillary responded to the same question, she replied, no, not within the first year. Then she stipulated that preconditions must be met and then perhaps a dialog could take place, but NOT ON A PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL.
The very next debate, the question was possed again; and again, BHO quoted John F Kennedy that we should not fear our enemies. He gave the cold war talks with Russia as an example. After which, Hillary responded, even Kennedy said there should first be preconditions which should be met… and Mr O, agreed with her position.
IOW, he’s FLIP-FLOPPNG
Now when McCain’s supporters bring it up, he says I never said that. A flip flop again and an outright lie.
#41 Hi Headoverhills, I admire people who have the determination to work from within. I see so many problems in the Democrat party so to me it seems easier to start over again…for me that means switch to the Republicans and work their party for awhile. I am through with the Dems. They have taken women for granted for years and now they have started insulting us to our faces in fact that is their habbit. Sticking around to me would seem like sticking with a man who beats you because he “had a good reason” and hoping that if you just act “right” he probably won’t do it again. I just don’t have the faith. Also the Dems and BO disgust me. But I do admire you, It takes a tough person to hang in there and work for improvement.
Evening Post up.
Email marylandpuma@gmail.com for today’s Daily Growl if you havent already.
Take it upstairs!
June 19, 2008 – New York Times
“The Obama campaign is vigilantly fighting erroneous information that has spread on the Internet that he is Muslim — he is, in fact, Christian — and emphasizing his patriotism and American story, with flags in abundance. In Washington on Wednesday, he invited photographers to his meeting with new members of his national security team and retired military officers supporting his candidacy.”
“The campaign on Monday barred cameras from a large gathering of African-American civic leaders Mr. Obama attended. It recently refused to provide names of religious figures with whom Mr. Obama met in Chicago and directed some of them to avoid reporters by using a special exit. And on Wednesday, the campaign orchestrated Michelle Obama’s appearance on the friendly set of “The View” and a flattering spread in the pages of Us Weekly. ”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/us/politics/19campaign.html
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Add this one to your list of UNITY favorites
- He threw Rev Jeremiah Wright under the bus
- He threw Trinity Unity Church of Christ under the bus
- Women should be called, “sweetie” so he threw us under the bus too.
- Asians are short, and they are under the bus.
- Muslim woman should not appear next to him and are also under the bus.
- And now, he does not want to be seen with African Americans at all. Man-o-man… how many more people can he kill.
This is unity
This is change
This is non-status quo
And THIS IS JUST ANOTHER POLITICIAN
Who lies to the American people
#78 SusyT
When HRC says she wants a Dem in the WH, I really don’t think she means Mr. No Name.
#86 goandersen
I don’t think so either, I’m sure she wasn’t pleased with that particular message.
We know she knows we’ve still got her back!
Crossed the 300,000 visit mark today.
Way to go Pumas!
There’s a new post up that may get your blood boiling.
Feel free to repost comments from here, and
bring it upstairs!
The Press. Doh!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/19/barackobama.uselections20081?commentpage=1
have you seen his new ad? the one that says he loves america? the one that lies and says he grew up in kansas..cant he get in trouble for not telling the truth? he has the bigg scam al gore, im sure hes helping him with his campaign funds, now that he has managed to pull off his global warming farce…he probably tried to fix the election that he lost, but it didnt work, probably gave obama some tips on how to do it? 30 thousand scienctists say gore is not telling the truth…obama made sure his name was the only name on the ballot..for senator…there were 2 others running for the spot, but he managed to get them off the ballot…no comptetion…he lies and changes, just like his statement of 57 states, nope sorry 57 muslims states, but not the us, and you had to think about it before you said it? yeah you are real presidental material…you say dont be afraid of change…or was that obey! you say you will require us to work..require us to eat less…we are bitter gun toting uneducated, bible toters..we are christians, catholics, yep we tote the bible in our hearts…will the dems realize that you will use them to get into your desired position in the world? and then discard them…we know they are trying desparetly to keep the economy going your way…south..we know they are getting sweetheart deals, and pretending they are for the poor…the new bill they are trying to pass proves it…they dont want the ammendment from bond, because they wont have their secret loophole for countrywide bad loans….1 out of 3 of the loans will be at risk, and we will pay for it when they default…but they hide and say its for the poor…we know they are lying…we know they want to use judges to disarm us..we know that you want to decrease funding for the military…because you know that is what has kept us strong…we know that you want to go green so we dont have fuel for planes, cars, trucks…we know…because we know who you truly are…your best friends, bill ayers, rev wright, resko, many more, and alot of the dems who selected you…into the nomination…i guess they thought we would get over it, and just brush us off, but guess what…we are americans and proud of our country…we arent going to forget…and we will drill..you dems have told americans to drop dead…nope you will be fired…no more earmarks and perks for you, no more al gore funding…this is the peoples country…you used to work for us…we wont forget..
Check this out Kitties
http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm
Particularly #4 .
#60 Cosmeta Thank You!!!!!!!
#62 SparkforHill Thank You!!!!!!!
#69 Goanderson Thank You!!!!!!!!!
Hey guys,
I attended to phone call. Hillary was incredible as always. She said key phrase: “So, that we can run again”—YAHOO!!! I am thrilled and excited from hearing her. She also invited us to visit her in Washington and NY.
When I’ll be in NY again, I’ll make sure to schedule a tour with her office and to see her in person. I love her very much. I am planning on sending her flowers to her office in Washington. When I will sign a card for her, I’ll send cash with that too.
I have to confess that I did a terrible thing. I put Hillary on the speaker phone and recorded her speech on my tape recorder. I also yelled YAHOO! into the phone at the end of her speech. I feel so stupid and embarrased.
I have a question: What if a lot of us were to come to DNC office in Washington one at a time, so that it wouldn’t look like a protest, and tell them that we think the election was flawed, and will NOT vote for HBO. And finish with: “I hope that when Sen. Obama will loose in November you’ll realize that you made a big mistake by fixing this election, and that you will come to Sen. Clinton in January of 2011 and ASK her to run for President. I hope that you will also get rid of caucuses and super delegates in order for election to be fair, and determine it by the REAL will of the people–POPULAR VOTE”. If we have enough people coming in one at a time with intervals like 30 minutes or so they’ll rethink what they did with forcing Hillary out of the race.
Please feel free to tell me that my idea is stupid.
Thank you
BD
#91 goandersen on 06.19.08 at 6:34 pm
I just skimmed through that article you provided the link to above and I got chills up my spine.
It’s a continuation of the Black Panther manifesto of the 60′s, when the AA movement was torn between MLK, peace and non-violent resistence, vs Black Panthers, militant overthrow of the govt and violence. Many of those involved went to Africa and settled in Liberia to create their own “state” outside America. But that experiment turned into a nightmare of violence and destruction.
The prisons are full of radical, militant Muslims, beginning with those who converted during that period in the 60′s and those who followed suit in later generations. They are violent and constantly fighting among themselves – Sunnis v Shiites. I had a very close friend who was a corrections officer in a maxi-maxi security prison in NY state. The stories I could tell you….
Rev. Wright strikes me as unquestionably a descendent of the militant, violent Black Panther faction of the AA movement. I have no doubt about it. BO and MO were in that church because they wanted to be. They shared his views. It was no accident or oversight. MO made her “First time in my adult life” comment without realizing the flack it would cause because that ideology is so much a part of her life and their community she saw no controversy in making the statement. It was just part of everyday mindset.
That’s my view.
Gordana–I’m posting this here in case you are reading/posting on this thread. Feel free to use any (or all) of my letter. I’m glad it resonated with you.
#88 Murphy
I was just curious. How many new members do we have?
BD
What I have been up to:
I stay tuned almost every day to RealClearPolitics and add my comments routinely regarding the sham that is Obama. I urge everyone to do the same. You will know it’s me by the following user names: tst, tstrainor, and flibbertijibbits.for.obama. I also add the phrase “by the way…PUMAs are gathering.” I know this is a small role to play – but right now its my role, and I am happy to do my part. Keep up the good work PUMAs!
Something very strange just happened. I went to yahoo and searched puma pac because I like to see what other sites come up occasionally besides this one. But I got some alternative page, on it were articles titled “Obama reaches out to gay community” and “Obama talks unity”. Very scary. I am through listening to Obamaisms. I had to retype 3 times to get the real Yahoo search results. Don’t you ever wonder what these creeps plan to do with the world when they take it over?
#97 Good work, they need to know we are everywhere and we aren’t going away. I am convinced if there were only a few of us we would be in danger.
#75 goandersen on 06.19.08 at 5:36 pm, WROTE TO,
#67 Cosmeta
[[ I have the article.My point was that I was not able to SAVE it, and that seemed curious to me.]]
Many times that’s more of a techinical browser issue than anything else. Either reset your cookies or try another brower. Also, depending upon what software program the web page writer uses, we cannot save or print. I find this to be true mainly with microsoft Front Page. Whenever that happens I either use my PRINTSCREEN program to capture an image of my screen; or I simily do a cut/copy paste and put it into my word processing program to save it. I will also, download and save a shortcut link to go directly to the onsite page if need me.
BrooklynNY…right on..I too think that that Rev. Wright was part of the black movement of the 60′s . And we know BO’s mother was an avid leftist..this is his thinking, so do you think this man wasn’t indoctrinated in the philosophy and beliefs of that ilk?
What do you think Obama really wants to do with all this power?
My God…he is scary!!
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