David Axelrod and Barack Obama are showing us just how easy it is to manipulate American presidential elections by marrying tried and true crony tactics to 21st Century technology. Does the Obama Movement sometimes remind you of the American Idol craze? Me too. Do the emails you’ve received from the Obama for America front remind you of the mass e-mailings you get from Mary Kay Cosmetics every other day? Me too! Has it sometimes felt to you like we are living inside a scary political action thriller straight out of the Bourne Identity franchise? Me too. Here’s how it happened.
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using Inside Influence and EBay Era Marketing Tricks
by Bad Guys with Worse Motives
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Where is everyone I hate being early.
Hello Pumas,
Things do not seem to be going Baracks way these days.
I just snooped around BO’s website. He has made some recent changes. He took down his “Stop the Smears” page. I guess he finally realized that he was just advertising the issues (duh!). Apparently he is blaming us for his need to change his funding policies. I guess BO is finding out about free speech.
I also noticed that the Obamabots are being instructed to post Craigslist . I go there some but it is generally too messy to deal with.
The most outstanding thing I noticed about his website is that, under the PEOPLE tab, there was no category that properly defined me. Before this, I only suspected that BO did not consider me a person. Now I know.
Go see. Maybe put it in your letters to those 10 Women Senators. However, that would still leave out the men. Maybe BO should have an option for people under PEOPLE.
#1 StarDust
Is ok, I hate being late!
Hi Guys,
I’m here too. Those videos are really scary. God, we need Hillary. Anyway, getting friends/husband to join the group too.
FLYERS:
Where are you guys putting up these great flyers? Thought we should have a brainstorming session on this blog for good ideas on where they would have the most impact. Any suggestions?
maybe have to change my name to susie sunshine – blah!!!!
I agree with VA Puma – call was pre recorded and the only passion was when she talked about everything except the bot…………….
The press. Doh!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/19/barackobama.uselections20081?commentpage=1
I’ll be around later, have to go meet a client then dinner with a few friends.
I’m thinking if a group go to new york, i might drive down, will depend on dates and a few other things
#7 goandersen – and it took them this long to figure that out – and we’re supposed to be the dumb ones…
I have an idea for flyers but have to get it cleared first I think…….we have a lot of park n ride sites here in the Twin Cities metro – in fact, just within 10-15 miles of where I live there are probably 50+ – people park their cars & grab the bus to work – need to check with Metro Transit & find out if legal to put flyers on cars in lots – don’t want to do it without permission – gives us bad name – will let you know what I find out – otherwise maybe I can post in the bus shelters -
Good idea, Susie1945. There are bulletin boards at local train stations, I can put some there.
What’s our money situation? Do we have any for ads in New York Times? That would be awesome! Think about how great our Flyer with Hillary picture: Thank You Hillary Clinton, We’ll Take it From Here, would look on a full page ad! I’m sure it’s a fortune, though.
I’m going to repost this here because I think it’s something everyone needs to consider. The DNC has the right to put ANYBODY on the ticket at the convention if there is not a clear winner in delegates. We each need to really look at whether we are protesting the DNC treatment of us and the rules or just supporting Hillary. If this would come to pass, our thoughts need to be clear. Mine are.
To spell it out Edwards is still on the ticket. Too much pressure on Obama they go for 16 years in WH…Edwards 8 then *61!!!!!! Ends talk of race and gender. Smiley boy wows everybody. DNC becomes good guys..look we listened and took race and gender out of the picture. So the question becomes, will you support Edwards if it comes to pass? NOT ME!!!!! Hillary or McCain, period. End of discussion. I don’t trust DNC, I will not be used twice by them, and this is a very viable way for them to get out of this situation, keep #61 in picture, and throw Republicans a curve ball. That’s why I only wrote Hillary and McCain’s camp and never put this out anywhere else. (Please let there be no trolls here
)
I may be wrong, but I thought someone said that Hillary can’t give up her delegates if she wants to continue to raise money to pay off her debt. If she gives up the delegates she will be stuck with the debt. I think the MSM may be reporting she’s giving up the delegates to get us to “fall in line”. Just one more of their many lies. I also got a beautiful email from Flores and she is going to look into the video regarding BO’s supporters trying to steal Hillary delegates. She is still very firmly in Hillary’s camp and commends us all on our efforts. What a wonderful lady. I may have to move to Texas.
They are reporting that the way Obama wants to raise money for his campaign will allow no limits on what he can accept.
I don’t care which male the DNC puts up, they won’t get my vote. Its Hillary or McCain. The article on What Hillary Wants was quite good. And may be very true.
Love Hillary. Check with Murphy and see if we can collect money to do this.
Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought the guy said that the call was being recorded, not that it was pre-recorded on Hillary’s call today.
#13 Taffy, the DNC could, but then they would really be pissing on us and telling us it is rain.
Clinton or McCain = your choice DNC!!!
Today’s Daily GROWL (6-18-2008) is now posted in the Action Center at:
http://pumapacusa.org/growls/growls.html
I thought Edwards gave his delegates to Obama when he endorsed him. Am I wrong?
#17 ShortTermer.
Definitely something to keep an eye on. John Edwards, Hmmmmm. Me thinks not.
great videos ! images are a powerful tool, hope to see more on public TV and cable, have people watch these, and let’s see what happens. A question, is it legal to put flyers or do I need permission? I can start distributing flyers in Miami, FL.
I have an idea, but it would need wide participation and would cost a little bit of money for each participant; would $10 plus mailing costs be too much for an outstanding guerilla [free] marketing idea?
How many of us could handle the cost and would participate? Reply here. If there are enough positive responses, I will send the idea to Murphy.
KnoxvillePuma would you send me an email?
Thank you short termer. That’s what I’m trying to get across. Lots of Dems wanted Edwards as the nominee. He would get a ton of support. And with such a short time between the convention and the election most people wouldn’t see they had been used. He may have been the nominee in the background the entire time. We just don’t know. But #61 brings in the money and the Dems have a field day in the election. Maybe that’s why Hillary keeps saying we need a Dem in the WH but doesn’t name names. It’s time to take back the party! God, I wish Hillary would go Independent !!!! Please!!!
LoveHilliary, Do you mean this flyer/AD?
http://onechicken.com/PUMA/PUMAflyer5.pdf
He didn’t let go – the MSM assumed he would give to *61 – so anything can happen yet………………..
btw – video is not up at no quarter yet from this afternoon
correction [almost free]
Step 1. Find and groom an attractive, unique, insecure, and young politician and grease the skids for his election to state and federal office.
Okay, so I’m at work, and am bored silly, so forgive this bit of silliness, but am I the ONLY one who doesn’t find NObama attractive??? Yuck!
#24 Gina – yes – I want to put that flyer all over the Cities
#27 mystic- I think he’s an ugly man especially those ears – looks like a black ross perot
Taffy – I think edwards is done………….or no??
Taffy, why are we talking Edwards when Hillary has changed nothing and gave us some big clues that nothing we had hoped for changed. We are 100% pro Hillary here – no substitutions.
Besides, according to the Obamabots, if nObama is not the nominee they plan a civil war; if nObama wins the election they plan a revolution – the DNC is nObama’s lap dog.
#27 mystic4hill
lol! He is eating to many grape popsicles.
Ad hominems PUMAS, ad hominems.
Edwards at first suspended his campaign but later ended it leaving his delegates free to vote for whomever they wish. Most, if not all of them, have gone to Obama. I’m getting sicker by the day. After watching the Daily Growl videos, I can’t understand what’s going on. It’s a Jim Jones thing, too bad the kool aid isn’t stronger.
http://www.demconwatchblog.com/2008/05/what-happens-to-edwards-delegates.html
#28 Susie1945
LMAO!
I chocked on my apple!
Oh MY Goodness
We let the cat out of the bag. Of course the cat is a big cat – actually a PUMA
P.U.M.A. PAC ALERT
Congrats to Puma Power
June 19, 2008
The 60 letters that were already sent to Howard Dean from PUMAs have been forwarded to:
2020@abc.com, 48hours@cbsnews.com, 60II@cbsnews.com, AKing@NECN.com, atc@npr.org, evening@cbsnews.com, dateline@nbc.com, ftn@cbsnews.com, Foxreport@foxnews.com, netaudr@abc.com, comments@foxnews.com, Colmes@foxnews.com, Hannity@foxnews.com, hardball@msnbc.com, morning@npr.org, msnbcreports@msnbc.com, AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov, today@nbc.com, nightly@nbc.com, nightline@abcnews.com, Ontherecord@foxnews.com, phil.boyce@abc.com, Special@foxnews.com, totn@npr.org, earlyshow@cbs.com, newshour@pbs.org, Oreilly@foxnews.com, rush@eibnet.com
Fa Le Fa La
Oh MY
Every day all of these media outlets will receive a steady one by one stream of letters.
COOOOOOL
goanderson, chat please?
I sent the following letter to Norma Fisher Flores, a
DNC Member in Texas:
Thank you for your continued support of our dear Hillary – I so wish others would stand for her as well. Please know our prayers are with you in your continued support of Hillary.
I am a democrat from Florida and am fed up with the DNC. I will cast my vote in November for Senator McCain if Hillary is not at the top of the democrat ticket.
God bless you, Hillary and the USofA,
xxxxxxxxx
Naples, Florida
Puma Democrat
And her response was:
Thank you for your kind note. I understand your frustration, as many of us are in the same situation. My heart goes out to you in Florida and those in Michigan for the treatment you have endured. We had our State Convention in Austin, Texas 2 weeks ago and I DID NOT seek re-election to the DNC for so many reasons.
We will continue our fight till Denver! Have you been to my website, http://www.fisherflores.com? There are so many people still backing her. You should read these letters from other Hillary supporters! Since she has not released her delegates, this should mean there has to be a reason for this! I’m still hoping and praying. May I post your e-mail on my website?
Regards,
Norma Fisher Flores
DNC Member, Texas
#35 ShortTermer
are you there?
Edwards had several supporters at our caucus. Not enough for delegates. His wife’s cancer was a big issue as to whether he could devote enough time to the campaign and presidency. He hasn’t given up his web site yet either. Just no new posts last time I looked. And this is the first time I’ve ever really noticed him going against his wife’s wishes. They usually work everything out together. Remember the hubbub when she didn’t appear with him to back #61? I’ve said enough. Not going to bring it up again. Just keep it in the back of your minds. These guys are sneaky __________ (fill in the blank with your choice).
#33goanderson I never eat when I am at the PUMA site. I burst out laughing so often my family yells at me to read the posts to them. I’m beginning to be chronically hoarse.
I thought so, too
#22 ShortTermer – don’t know what your idea is, but count me in. $10 seems reasonable, and for those who want to participate but are short on cash flow, I know I’d be willing to toss in some extra.
#28 Susie – He does look like Ross Perot! I knew there was someone he reminded me of. I kept thinking of Dumbo, but didn’t want to insult the sweet little elephant.
gina613, yes that flyer. I love it. I think Hillary looks beautiful in it.
Norma Fisher Flores, “Since she has not released her delegates, this should mean there has to be a reason for this! I’m still hoping and praying.”
This lady is in a position of power and she thinks the same as me.
Mamapuma – you rock…………………love it, love it, love it …………………….this should get us some publicity – if for no other reason than the volume…..
ShortTermer, $10 is not a problem to donate. What’s your idea?
#38 Taffy
I would love to hear what Tipper and Elisabeth have to say about all of this.
#22 shortTermer. I would need to know the details but count me in with the money!!!!!
ShortTermer I’m in for $20
Here, but MAC needs us to chat.
Hey everyone, sorry been away, what is new. What’s going on around here. What are we doing to get rid of Senator Obama.
I have a couple of things to post.
1 – The Petition, if you are new, please sign – http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House
2-The myspace page – Please join us trying to spread the word about PUMA – myspace.com/pumapac
3- This new youtube video from Native Americans against Obama – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_ckvguM8EQ
#22 . shorttermer,
How much do you need. I’m in, what can we do?
Shorttermer – count me in -
MURPHY: WHAT’S OUR BUDGET LIKE? CAN WE AFFORD AD IN MAJOR NEWSPAPER TO PUT THE HILLARY/PUMA FLYER IN?
IF NOT, LET’S START A MONEY METER TO REACH OUR GOALS, THIS WORKED GREAT ON THE HILLARY WEBSITE.
#34 MamaPuma
Can you add Bill Moyers to that list?
moyersonpbs#thirteen.org
Let me do some figuring and I will get back to you on it. There has to be WIDE spread participation or it won’t be effective. Any more interested?
okay, how do we do this shorttermer, can you be more specific?
oops moyersonpbs@thirteen.org
Hello everyone
I am new to the blog, but not new to puma. I finally got a password. Thank you Murphy the gmail worked. I wanted to say I enjoy reading all the posts and do all that I can to participate. I hope I can be as proactive as you all are. Take care all and be safe
shortTermer count me in!
#7 goandersen on 06.19.08 at 6:26 pm The press. Doh!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/19/barackobama.uselections20081?commentpage=1
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So much for transparency in the Precious’ administration if he happens to become our next POTUS. How so many people can seemingly be willing to put their trust in and our country into the hands of this guy is beyond me.
How convenient for Edwards, eh? I’m sorry but this guy is the most blatant weazel I have ever seen…
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/19/edwards-nunn-are-under-consideration-as-obama-vp-dem-says/
hey,this on cnn now…IT’S GOOD …MCCAIN is drawing
attention to OBAMA’S LIES !!!!!
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/19/obama.public.financing/index.html
#58 Tucsonpuma on 06.19.08 at 7:07 pm
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Welcome aboard the PUMA train!!!
welcome tucson. feel free to pounce on in!
PUMAs,
Has anyone else received a solicitation letter from Precious with another letter enclosed from a Rev Joseph Lowery? I was a Hillary donor and I’m wondering if her list was given to Precious as part of some deal? Never got a letter from him before. Letter makes me want to puke.
“if we’re going to turn hope into change, then we need the financial resources to compete… When you join us, you will take your place in a long American tradition: standing up.”
What a hypocrite!! What would he know about being a stand up person??!! I immediately wrote “Go to HELL! Hillary or McCain in 2008!! Never Obama!” then mailed it in the prepaid postage envelope, just to waste his money. :>)
Okay, let’s name the losers now associated with nObma:
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
……
keep the list going
Knoxville Puma:
I read your post from the last thread (#24) . I looked at what Wikipedia had on its site about PUMA PAC and its goals. Something I saw disturbed me and I wonder if you or Murphy can clarify that part about blacks as stated in goal #5. That can’t be right.
This is what Wikipedia has:
The stated goals of PUMA PAC are as follows[2]:
1. To support the candidacy of Hillary Clinton
2. To lobby and organize for changes in leadership in the DNC
3. To critique and oppose misogyny, discrimination, and disinformation they believe to be present in the mainstream media, including mainstream blogs and other outlets of new media
4. To support the efforts of those political figures who have allied themselves with Hillary Clinton and who have demonstrated commitment to their first three goals
5. To make sure everyone understands that black people are incapable of running this country
Do you think that pathetic sentiment about blacks may have been put up by an Obama supporter to make PUMA look racist?
It needs to be removed. And I mean as quickly as possible.
–Max Grader
goandersen
Bill Moyers will be hearing our roooooar 60 times a day
Thanks
Thank YOU VA Puma for the Hillary update call…I was reading what you typed very carefully and I noticed something…I am wondering if any of you read it the same way??? here goes…”She needs to pay her Vendors to free her up to help BO? If the Debt, is not paid off then she is not “free to help Bo” She would have to be spending time working to pay her own debt…What do you think????
maxgrader: I agree, that has to be removed immediately. And I would not be surprised if an Obama supporter added that in to discredit us. How can that be removed, logistically?
#66 short Termer mustn’t forget Kerry!!! And he’s up for re-election!
Susie1945
thanks
A full page ad in the New York Times costs $50 to $75,000.
Around $40,000 for the Cleveland Plain Dealer and the Philadelphia Inquirer.
We are not there yet.
A site money-meter and targeted fundraising effort is going up on our page and out to our members tonight and tomorrow.
Please consider donating and getting your friends to chip in too.
And btw, ALL of the work being done on this site and in this Puma PAC movement is 100 PERCENT VOLUNTEER.
Pelosi and Reid
#67 maxgrader
I can answer that one for you. OBAMABOTS!!!!!
Wikipedia is a free online “dictionary” and anyone can edit an entry. Obamabots did this to Hillary as well.
And they hijacked a moniker of a number of the workhorses for Hillary’s campaign’s and posted disgusting, obscene, and idiotic posts in our names; they have been trained to do this. Funny how you can teach someone, but you can not make them learn – except for hate, hate evidently is learned quickly.
What a way to get someone elected, huh?
Hey all you newby PUMAs. Don’ t forget to check out our PUMA PAC Action Center. Many things for PUMAs to use as education and outreach tools to get our message out there to the masses. There are flyers, and postcards that you can print out and either mail or hand out. There are our favorite Youtube video links – give them some love so they rank higher on the Youtube site. There are back issues of the Daily GROWLS that you can still act upon. There are links to various related petitions for you to sign. And there is a project list with contacts there as well, so if you’d like to voluteer as a project coordinator email the appropriate contacts.
So lot’s of stuff to see and do at the PUMA PAC Action Center!
Check it out at: http://pumapacusa.org/index.html
Just don’t mind the mess, it’s constantly under construction as time permits!
Growwwwl!
Wikipedia is a kind of stupid site – people can go in & pretty much change whatever is written there – someone monitors it but ………………………come on the thing is huge………..lots of info but I never trust what comes out of there………….but that’s just me
MAMAPUMA/MURPHY: HAD CRAZY IDEA…
How about contacting (somehow) Rob Reiner to help us with a video on us and our cause. He is a strong Hillary supporter and his video he did with Jack Nicholson received over 1 million hits! He might be interested, you never know until you ask…
#60 PA4hill08
‘In Post Turtle We Trust’
maxgrader i removed it, anyone can edit wikipedia. What Murphy should try to do instead is contact Wikipedia and have this page locked so no one can edit it.
the vidoes are superb¡¡¡¡¡¡
my posts were banned from HILLARY´S BLOG, when I started saying more or less the content of the 2nd video
I believe they have used subliminal messages,masses mind control techniques and totalitarian way of doing politics, actually it looks more like a soviet campaing,with all that it implies
Okay, let’s name the losers now associated with nObma:
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
Kerry (up for re-election)
……
keep the list going
to all the new members, please sign the petition if you haven’t done so, and get your friends and family to sign in as well.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House
Nice note back from Norma Flores
Thank you for your nice note of support! May I add this to my website, http://www.fisherflores.com? I am grateful for the support the PUMA PAC members are showing Senator Clinton and myself!
God Bless you,
Norma Fisher Flores
DNC Member, Texas
Also got Get Well Cards sent to Pelosi and Reid today to their Washington Offices. Included some funny money.
Sen Harry Reid
528 Hart Senate Office Bldg
Washington, DC 20510
Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi
235 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515
lovehillary – great idea – he just might do it – too bad we can’t get steven speilberg too – or the cohens….just thinking out loud
Suzy T thanks I was about to add them to the list
Hi guys, I think it would be good to got to shopping malls, movie theaters, Library parking lots, super centers like Walmarts and soon, the fairs will be starting up. There are tons of cars at places like that.
I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed an Obama email
I think that we should also be sending these letters to Senator Clinton so that she can evaluate what is happening. What email should I use?
#66
Gore
what ever happened to contacting was it Harvey Weinstein? Did anyone get through? Wasn’t he a major Clinton supporter.
#71 Taffy on 06.19.08 at 7:15 pm #66
short Termer mustn’t forget Kerry!!! And he’s up for re-election!
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I also read a rumor somewhere online that Kerry may be on the short list for VP. Pffft. What a pair that would be – dumb and dumber. Can’t believe I actually campaigned for and voted for Kerry back in 2004. It was anything but GWB for me back then. Funny, now it’s anything but BHO for me this year!
Max it’s already be revised. Said it was done today at 20:28
Love Hillary:
I went back to Wikipedia to see if I cauld change things without having to register. When I tried to edit that part about blacks out, it had already been done. That was sure fast.
Whoever heard my message, thanks.
–Max Grader
Who were the ladies that put the ad in USA today. Maybe team up. I am willing to donate some $.
#66 As a political candidate–wouldn’t it be appropriate to at Al Gore? Hard for me to call his a loser. He is a good guy outside of politics, in my opinion anyway…but lost…and could have fought it out more aggressively–2000.
Oh, Growl, Phist, Phist, Yeow, Pounce!
I just got snail mail from No Name. Yay! a postage paid return envelop. Whoopeeeeeeeeee!
#60 Post Turtle – I went to hallmark looking for a cool ecard to send to the sickly bastards & found a really cute turtle that looks like he is sitting on a post – will try to find it again & post here
scrubs56, do you mean that we should be handing out flyers are shopping areas? Just trying to figure out what we are all talking about, with all the post its hard to keep up.
#58 Tusonpuma – Welcome to the blogs!!! Just try to stay away. I can’t.
I wanted to take this opportunity to say a HUGE thank you to both Murphy and MamaPuma for all the work you are doing.
Okay, let’s name the losers now associated with nObma:
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
Kerry (up for re-election)
Gore
……
keep the list going
Was there a rescheduled (form Monday) conference call with Sen. Clinton yesterday or today? I missed it. Had too much work to get done. Anyone have any news from that?
If those videos could see the light in the main news channels, people would take the bandage from their eyes, and see what this man is all about
#97 SusieT
Wasn’t there a not so attractive turtle one?
Hello all. I haven’t been able to get on all day. Boss was at work today and I actually had to be good and work. It was torture! I wish I could take “family leave” so I could tend to my Hillary family duties all day every day!
I think some good places to pass out flyers are just like I did with Hillary brochures, I put them on cars at all the shopping centers parking lots..walmart, kmart, target, grocery stores etc. Also plan to pass them out at all the festivals coming up..taste of Chicago….Hammond Indiana is having a week long festival..will pass them out there, The mayor of Hammond is a HUGE Hillary supporter, still is…he is one of our “good guys”. Just some suggestions for flyers..what do you think?
Sorry everyone, I changed it, didn’t know anyone wanted to keep that up. Good catch though Max.
Not into business but what about an ad in WSJ or some Washington newspaper?
Nightsky, you are very welcome!
#100 ShortTermer
Pelosi (up for re-election in Nov.)
Reid
Susie1945, I think goandersen would like an UUUUgly turtle!!!
#21 oscarp on 06.19.08 at 6:48 pm
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If you’re distributing flyers in the Miama area, we do also have at least one Spanish language flyer in the Action Center at:
http://pumapacusa.org/fliers/fliers.html
I think it would be good if we can get an add on tv and on the papers, with other groups together, to split the cost, to air at the same time. That would make more sense. Any ideas on that?
WELCOME Tucsonpuma to the bog.
Cool. I posted the log, and two of these videos on my website, Peacocks and Lilies. Thanks!
# 109 SusyT
LOL!
Well, you could always glue a pic of no name over the turtle face.
CAUTION: It is illegal to place flyers on cars in some store parking lots, always get permission. Wal-Mart is the only store I know of that owns their own parking and it is private property, so it might be easier to get permission there.
Also, those kinds of videos[these are mild ones] are what 527s are all about – and they work! One good commercial video/ad and nObama is done for. We have got to reach the church going, working, middle classes, because they tend to vote in block and their religious beliefs and values would not be in sync with the Rev. Wright or Phleger missions. We need a campaign on the churches!!!
Please dont forget to sign the petition
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House
#101 several of us on call today. Comments on previous thread the highlights thanks to VAPUMA!
#400 VA PUMA on 06.19.08 at 5:20 pm I am on the call!!! Typing as she is talking
A thanks to all women from Hillary for all the work for her campaign. “Its just beginning”
Hillary: Thank you to all. We broke alot of barriers. Beyond thrilled to be the first woman to ever “to win a Presidential primary.” On saturday we are going to work to ensure victory for the Dem Party. Fight hard for Obama. I intend to take all my energy to work for Obama. I hope you will join me in working in behalf of Obama. We,ve got to elect a democratic president. Some of you and I am concerned about what happened in the primary: attitudes toward women..I will continue to fight against this and will continue to bring it to light. We are going to address that because it is not right and we are going to address that. What can you do to help? Help Obama and give me money for my campaign. Need to pay our vendors. I would appreciate your help so I can be free to work for Obama and issues I am concerned about. Just wanted to take this opportunity to thank each of you. Had finest and bravest women I know. What we stood for and what I campaigned for will come.
Great observation!
I would like to introduce fellow Puma members to another Puma friendly site (it is part of the justsayno coalition) that has been receiving good feedback lately. The website is called:
http://www.obama-wire.com
Check it Out!
#2: “He took down his “Stop the Smears” page. I guess he finally realized that he was just advertising the issues (duh!). ”
Or, perhaps he realized that if he didn’t address or deny certain claims, it would be safe for us to take them as truth. (Sinclair, et al).
The more I hear from this guy, the more I can’t stand him.
#104 prplvette85 on 06.19.08 at 7:23 pm
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Great ideas, prplvette85! Shopping malls, local hangouts, all good places for doing flyers. And hang them in local grocery stores, maybe your post office (some allow flyers, etc be posted but you probably should ask them), libraries, around colleges…
Loca 2525:
So it was you who changed it. Excellent.
But I’m curious why Knoxville Puma didn’t notice that about blacks when he/she saw PUMA at Wikipedia yesterday.
–Max Grader
#100 short termer–
Nick Lampson (D-TX) lost in 2004 and is up for re-election in my district in Nov. He will get trounced. The only reason he won in 2006 was due to the T. DeLay stuff.
Taffy 106, up to $100k in the WashPost
#34 Mammapuma: Another good one to add is to Lou Dobbs. He thinks very lowly of Obama. I email him all the time. You have to go through his web page http://www.loudobbbs.com
No Name is like the “Smoking Man” on the X-Files.
Creeepy
Okay, let’s name the losers now associated with nObma:
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
Kerry (up for re-election)
Gore
Pelosi (up for re-election in Nov.)
Reid
……
keep the list going
Tucsonpuma
Sorry the post on 112 should have said “WELCOME to the blog”. I am so sorry. But I do mean WELCOME!!!!!!
#114 goandersen,
works for me! I can just visualize it!!
#118 obamawire on 06.19.08 at 7:28 pm
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Holy carp! Lot of information there. Reminds me of Drudge in a way. May I add a link to that site in our PUMA Action Center??
Just a thought: if we run ads and they can not be national, we do not want to target the politicians (or do we) we want to target the people, especially the “bitter” people. Not everybody either has a computer or has the time to research like we do on the race.
For those who haven’t joined, please join our myspace, page and help us spread the word about PUMA
myspace.com/pumapac
#88 Mama Puma
Not an email but can sure tie up the fax! Candidates running in elections can’t receive email at Govt. offices for a certain number of days before election. Can’t remember exactly what…check Hillary’s site.
Washington D.C. Office
713 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-2854
(202) 228-4260 fax
(202 228-1404 TDD
Email our office
Chicago Office
John C. Kluczynski Federal Office Building
230 South Dearborn St.
Suite 3900 (39th floor)
Chicago, Illinois 60604
(312) 886-3506
(312) 886-3514 fax
Toll free: (866) 445-2520
(for IL residents only)
Springfield Office
607 East Adams Street
Springfield, Illinois 62701
(217) 492-5089
(217) 492-5099 fax
Marion Office
701 North Court Street
Marion, Illinois 62959
(618) 997-2402
(618) 997-2850 fax
Moline Office
1911 52nd Avenue
Moline, Illinois 61265
(309)736-1217
(309)736-1233 fax
GREAT work PA4HILL08 — the Action Center is AWESOME!
Also a VERY big thanks to Elaine, SunnyPA, and others who have designed, produced, and edited the content of the flyers, brochures, lists, translations, links, alerts, and every other good thing that is available there.
Those were #61 office sites
To the new comers, please sign the petition
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House
#117 roxy4hill on 06.19.08 at 7:28 pm
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Thanks! Have not had any spare time today to go bakck through the previous posts yet. Hope to catch up a wee bit later tonight since I am off work tommorow.
Okay – I found it – it’s kinda silly but cute
If you recognize this name, click the link to see your E-Card.
http://www.hallmark.com/ECardWeb/ECV.jsp?a=EG2457462872391M265569179Y&product_id=
had to send it to myself
YOU ALL, PLEASE, WE NEED 10 PEOPLE TODAY TO HELP GET HILLARY TO CONVENTION. ONLY $5 DONATION each IS NEEDED, HERE’S THE STORY.
Chairman Mao Tse Dean is trying to remove Hillary from the ballot or cancel the Convention just to keep Hillary from any possible upsets or having her voice represented. It’s to keep her from having any power, to continue their illegal, immoral purges (coup) going on. But, it’s never been done, no candidate has ever been forced out of Convention and Chairman Dean Scream is trying to make the First Woman, be the First to be made invisible — like the way he made 2.3 million votes in 2 states “not affect the outcome.”
So, please, here’s our heroine, Dr. Heidi Li’s offer to get people going to Denver to keep this travesty from happening.
CAN YOU GIVE $5 TODAY? Please.
HERE’S HER NOTE,HERE’S WHAT SHE’S ASKING:
“Today is a packed with academic responsibilities, but I always like to say hello over here. Much is happening with The Denver Group, very exciting. Will share what I can later.
Meanwhile, a little incentive for RETIRE THE DEBT: if you can find one person to donate $5.00 to the cause via http://tinyurl.com/yvcvx4, and at least 10 donations arrive before midnight tonight, I will send Blue $100 for treats!”
“Blue” is the troll blocker at Bitterpoliticz, a site for Not Towing the Party Line. Rejecting Barky, promoting Clinton Dem issues (Every PUMA who isn’t a member is sure welcome to cross-post there by the way).
PLEASE HELP, JUST 10 PEOPLE, $5 A PIECE. THANKS TO ANYBODY WHO CAN HELP WITH THIS. It’s an ongoing project b/c we will not lose our Convention even if we’ve lost our votes, party, and democracy so far.
And a day cannot go by without thanking marylandpuma for all the work she does. She is literally working her paws to the claws making sure the trains run on time around here.
Big lion hugs to marylandpuma.
and to mampauma and knoxvillepuma for the creativity and leadership.
Ok, why does it feel like party time tonight?
Okay, let’s name the losers now associated with nObma:
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
Kerry (up for re-election)
Gore
Pelosi (up for re-election in Nov.)
Reid
Nick Lampson (D-TX) lost in 2004 is up for re-election
…okay now you keep the list going by copy and pasting from a post and then adding the name. Am I wrong, or doesn’t Biden and Dodd belong on the list – wasn’t sure.
Murphy–I want to add my thanks and admiration for the talented people we have here. The action center and the daily growls are awesome. We all have our own special gifts that we provide and the distribution of the equality of those talents are incredible. Everyone: Pat yourself on the back!
Hmm, just wondering if Senator Clinton has been getting any of our Thank You cards we sent out last week yet. I wuld love to be a fly on the wall when the mail room at the Senate Office Building gets all those cards!
Am also picturing Sen Clinton’s desk covered in cards when she returns from her ‘vacation’.
Pelosi was my choice too! What a snake in the grass!
sign the petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/everyman/petition.html
Add: Oprah, Howard Dean…
wuld = would.
Long day….
Dodd definitely
Duh!…Axelrod, Gollsbee
Murph,
Tell me what you think about the site.
Sam
Obama-Wire.Com
I am in for $10 or $20.
Murphy:
All I can say else about the Wikipedia thing is we are going to have to keep a vigil on that site seeing that it is so easy for anybody to write what they want. Either that or tell Wikipedia themselves to somehow safeguard PUMA from unauthorized entries.
Got to do something because Wiki is pretty well known– for better or worse.
–Max
#140, I was thinking the same. Especially Chris Dodd. He was the first one to accuse of of making the campaign divisive and gave it a tone of “shrill.” Biden endorsed Barack, but I have not heard what he said and if it made the news, it was quiet. At least from my end. However, Dodd, add him.
CasperCar #69 Ouuuuu you are very quick and cleaver!! I typed it as she said it, that is nearly a quote. But I, unlike you, did not see the significance! Wow, so if her debt is not paid off, she cannot work for Obama. Hummmmmmmmmmmm
Okay, let’s name the losers now associated with nObma:
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
Kerry (up for re-election)
Gore
Pelosi (up for re-election in Nov.)
Reid
Nick Lampson (D-TX) lost in 2004 is up for re-election
Dodd
Gollsbee
Biden
#133 murphy on 06.19.08 at 7:33 pm
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Thanks, Murphy! We need more STUFF for that Action Center! PUMAs with artistic talents – please step up and send your graphics, flyers, cards, letters, and other PUMA stuff to marylandpuma so we can sort through it and get more stuff up in the Action Center.
Said it before – will say it again – we have got the best group of people on this site – the creativity, the knowledge, the smarts, the time – this blows my mind -also goes to show what the first grassroots movements were like – back in the dark ages, I’m talking _I know cuz I was there…………………….computers have made it so much easier…………………..
Add: Michael Moore (sheesh, I can just imagine his next documentary on *61) Watch, he’ll call it just that “The rise of *61″
accuse Hillary of–revise/edit #150
Okay, let’s name the losers now associated with nObma:
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
Kerry (up for re-election)
Gore
Pelosi (up for re-election in Nov.)
Reid
Nick Lampson (D-TX) lost in 2004 is up for re-election
Dodd
Gollsbee
Biden
Brazilla
McCaskill
Howie
Murphy – thank you, thank you, thank you for bringing this to life – there are a lot of sites out there but I think this one is the best I’ve seen and I check out a lot of them just to see what happenin’ – less than 3 wks huh -
# 96 goandersen, I got one from Obama yesterday. Wrote on it where they have yes we can…I put NO YOU CAN”T. Put PUMA on it and RETURN TO SENDER. PUMA DEMOCRAT on the back. I think they will get the message.
Would like some feedback on the notes from VA PUMA…RE: Roxy4hill…Did you read the part where Hillary says “SHE NEEDS OUR HELP TO PAY HER VENDORS….. TO FREE HER UP, TO HELP BO… What I am reading into that is…….If her debt is not paid….She is not free to help BO…….Please respond… Would like to think maybe we have something here. What if the Debt is not paid until after the Aug. 25th Convention??? Hillary’s number one priority is to pay her bills…If she is busy raising $$$$ to pay her bills she doesn’t have time to help BO!!!!!
What do people here think about my site (Obama-Wire)?
Need to add Loser Carter on the list.
shorttermer,
i am in for the $10.
Short Termer
Loser List associated with *61
McCaskill (spelling ?) she has been ruthless advocate for him – her attacks against Senator Clinton were vicious.
Napolitano – Hillary won the primary in AZ.
Rockefeller
Byrd
Clyburn
Casey
Gov. of WA?
Pattie Solis Doyle (Was she a mole in Hillary’s camp? She has close ties to Axlerod and Chicago politics.)
Sharpton
Jesse Jackson Jr.
#150 Jeremy on 06.19.08 at 7:40 pm
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I hate to put Biden on the bad guys list – he was actually my first pick for nominee before Sen. Clinton. Could not beat Joe Biden for foreign policy experience, and he’s a passionate guy when it comes to stuff like Darfur and other such causes. I admire people who aren’t afraid to ’speak their minds about injustices’ in our world. Joe’s that kind of guy.
Losers: Tom Hanks, Susan Sarandon, etc.
obamawire,
haven’t had a chance to look yet but i will in a few minutes.
Thanks Sheila7
VA PUMA thanks
Taffy not ready to fax letters yet but soon. Thanks
Hey Murphy I just donated 50.00 to you for that ad that Short- termer wanted
We need to get that anti black thing out of there my husband is black – loves Hillary – and is definitely a sweet heart. Those dirty Obama people I’m sure it was them that did that.
Murphy I cannot find the link now but one of the articles on Sinclair yesterday (in the comments section) had some very bad things to say about the person in charge of running Puma. I would assume that is you. Obama is running scared he will try to stop us anyway he can (lies, cheating, everything). Remember people who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. If you run across negative stuff out there use common sense. We need to protect our own and Murphy is definitely one of the good guys.
#161 obamawire
Well, I cannot get behind the name for one. Sorry, but that is just too painful to even speak or read it.
obamawire,
it looks like alot of information there. good job and i’ll send some others over there.
Newspapers, maybe we can look at ads in the DENVER POST, OR ROCKY MOUNTAIN NEWS, since that is where we are all headed for the convention. Also the Boulder Daily Camera. We have and elderly couple that is raising money for Hillary’s debt. they are 81 years old and Staunch Hillary supporters, they have been featured in the paper
LoveHillary #12
Love your idea!! Can we do it, PUMAs??!!!!
#161 obamawire
It’s intense! I will be up night reading!
Thanks.
roxy4hill, That must have been a depressing call hearing Hillary saying that about supporting Obama. Her hands are tied. She can not openly admit that she is glad of what we are doing. She would get slammed if that got out.
HOW DO YOU GET ON THESE CALLS? I USED TO GET ON THE CONFERENCE CALLS AS AN ACTIVATE CALLER DURING THE CAMPAIGN.
Thanks Again Sheila7!
For Anyone else http://www.obama-wire.com
Please tell me what you think!
#165 PA4HILL08–I agree. I was hesitant in my post when I blogged his name. I don’t consider him a loser. He would have been a great cabinet or VP pick for Hill. Like I said, some one told me and then I saw it in print that he officially endorsed Barack, but if it made news, it was quiet. I missed it. I like Joe, too.
p.s. It is so funny–when I use my spell check Barack always comes up. I wll NOT add it to MY dictionary.
I used the latest envelop from BO and its contents to pick up after my dogs when I took them on a walk. Gave me great pleasure.
#162 NeverMore on 06.19.08 at 7:45 pm
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With all due respect. Can we hold our tongues about calling former President’s ‘losers’ in these blogs. Ex-President Carter basically failed as a President, yes, but he’s done a lot of great community service work (habitat for Huymanity for one) and humanitarian work since then and from what I can discern, is still fairly well-respected around the world as a statesman. And we do not like people calling former President Clinton ‘Slick Willy’ or other derogatory names do we? We want to stay above all that name calling here; remember we’re not bots – we’re better than that folks.
did anyone else watch barbara layton on cavuto today? she sure seemed to be aware of something that others aren’t. did anybody else think so?
Thanks goandersen for the rest of you check out obama-wire.com and tell me what you think.
Hopefully we can get Murph to add it as a link
#170 – the person they were slamming was Will Bower who is part of the Puma – he was on TV talking to one of the pundits – can’t remember who (sorry senior moment) – anyone was one of the bots – they slam everyone
#180
Huymanity = humanity
Really loooong day…
What’s the list for anyway?
#160 CasperCat
Can someone clarify about HRC’s debt?
Doesn’t she have to have that paid off before the Convention???
Goalucard? Somebody?
#179 nightsky LOL. that’s great.
#181 sheila7
What did she say, pray tell?
#178 Jeremy on 06.19.08 at 7:50 pm
p.s. It is so funny–when I use my spell check Barack always comes up. I wll NOT add it to MY dictionary.
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LOL!
A bit OT – but someone last night asked something about helping Hillary with her debt. Here’s what I did, I went to her site and went to the store section and bought a bunch of Hillary campaign stuff, buttons, mouse pads, T-shirts, jackets, pins, etc. All the dollars are treated as donations and you’ll have something to hold onto. I only wish I had realized this earlier when I donated much more.
Anyway, I thought it was a nice way to help out. I did it on the Saturday of her big speech and the stuff just arrived today (they had backordered the jackets).
Well, gotta run, but I’ll try to get back later tonight if I can.
Thank you (((((((((MarylandPums)))))))))
#186 goandersen on 06.19.08 at 7:52 pm
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Goandersen. You may check out Heidi Li Feldman’s blogs. The answer may be there somewhere in her past blogs about the ins and outs of paying down Sen Clinton’s debts. Heidi Li is a laywer I believe, teaches law anyway. She’s intent on paying off Sen Clinton’s campaign debt through her ‘Pay Down The Debt’ campaign. If you contact through her comments she may be able to answer your questions as well.
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/
Obama-wire. Checked out your site. There is a lot of information. Wasn’t sure about the Iraqi insurgent – I’m assuming that it was translated and thus hard to read. It wasn’t exactly clear to me if that was a write up in a paper or what???? But otherwise, it looks good.
#170 Stardust. I agree with you. I am Italian and my husband is black. We live in a mostly black city. There are MANY Hillary supporters who are black, and educated. Not all blacks vote for the chosen one. My husband worked very hard along with me. When we first started out over a year ago, no one in this town would admit they were Hillary supporters. I put stickers all over my car, signs in my yard, all my windows etc. wore my shirts every where and so did he. before we knew it people were not “scared” anymore. they joined in. I still have all my signs up. I was told many times that I would be targeted, perhaps shot, beat up etc. I told them all I do not live in fear. God did not give me the spirit of fear. I still live by that.
#162 PA4HILL08,
I’m sorry if I offened you but I happen to disagree. The list itself is called the “Loser List associated with Obama” and Carter falls on that list as far as his actions during the primary towards Hillary and his past political losses. Sure he’s done a lot of community work after his presidency, but that should not give him a pass on this list.
I sent a letter to Cavuto and i sent a leter to Senator Bayh i wish i had Barbara Laytons address.
#188 goandersen,
she is a donor to clinton and she said she is not ready to back BO yet. he said why if he is the nominee and she said well, he’s not, he is the presumptive nominee and anything can happen so he doesn’t know that he will be the nominee. cavuto asked her if she knew something he didn’t and she laughed , paused, and then said , i’ll just say that anything can happen.
correction……..the post above is for retiring Hillary’s debt specifically, but here’s why it’s also for Convention. Dr. Heidi Li (well known Clinton fundraiser, and I say the most positive Hillary supporter you’ll ever find) is also working on a way to get people to Denver.
So……………today’s 5$ donations through her link (above) at Hillary Clinton’s website will go to paying down the debt to free Hillary for Convention as well and put her into a more powerful position.
It will match the troll blocking of a pro-Clinton anti-Barky site.
Plus, stay tuned, this is one of the ways Heidi is working to get Hillary to the Convention and keep her in as powerful a position as possible for the future.
You can read more about it at Heidi Li’s Potpourri at Wordpress. That’s her own site.
WE NEED 10 $5 DONATIONS TODAY! PLEASE, GO TO HEIDI LI’S POTPOURRI AT WORDPRESS or use the above link which is her link at Hillary Clinton.com (which will only be used for Hillary causes, nothing for DNC, NOTHING for BO).
Also……at any time you can go to Heidi Li’s Potpourri to read about Dr. Li more fully (and see cool pictures of her with those 2 gorgeous Clintons).
PLEASE HELP, 10 PEOPLE, $5 IS ALL THAT’S NEEDED TODAY TO GET THIS FUNDRAISER STARTED, AND SHE’LL MATCH IT WITH TROLL BLOCKING FOR PRO-CLINTON, ANTI- BO SITE.
#105 loca2525 – Can you also edit the term ’snide phrase’ and get rid of the reference to the Guardian article. It’s a bit negative. I tried and wasn’t able to edit the actual text or reference links.
#181 sheila7 on 06.19.08 at 7:52 pm
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What was said?
I would definitely donate for an ad. Perhaps we can concentrate on ads in the swing states to persuade voters or is the goal to get recognition for PUMA’s cause and what we’re doing?
goandersen,
the only bad thing was she said if it came down to it she would back BO because a democrat must take the white house, but she still thought that might be hillary. maybe it’s on youtube, you kind of have to see her speak to get the jist of it. i think someone said it might be going on noquarter.
pa4hill,
see 197 and 202.
#192 PA4Hill08
Thanks, will do.
Goggled Barbara – name came up in Huffington donation list –
Barbara Layton
restaurant owner
Self Updated
Q1/2004
DNC
$1,250 11 CROSS HWY
East Hampton NY
no email but name of restaurant is Babetts – also located in East Hampton NY
ShortTermer – you can count me in for $10.
My comment is still awaiting moderation, that stinks, I’ll try posting some more of it.
We need $5 donations before midnight to retire Hillary’s debt, and help get her to convention. I’ll post the link next post and see if moderation is still a thorn in my side.
These might help with your “Traitor” lists. They are links to Dems up for re-election Nov 4, 2008
Senate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2008
House of Reps:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_elections%2C_2008
I can’t say thank you enough to Murphy, MarylandPuma, and so many others for making this site a home for us disenfranchised, bitter, gun totin’ and uneducated fools.
Through all of the anger and rightly so, I see humor and that is a good thing.
goin’ to heidi’s site to donate – she has a meter on site to add up amts
ShortTermer, You can count me in for $20.00. Anything for Hillary! What’s the idea?
“I just got snail mail from No Name. Yay! a postage paid return envelop. Whoopeeeeeeeeee!”
Cool! Use it to send half a check to represent the 1/2 votes in FL, at no expense to yourself!
Obamawire I liked th info Thanks
Okay I went to see if the Neil Cavuto video was up and then clicked on PUMA in the article. Its comes up as PUMA Party Unity My Ass With a guy named Will as the co-founder. ?????
you can also count on me to donate.
#194 prplvette85
Did your husband warn you about Obama early on before Fox news came out with their stuff. My husband said he saw clues and said we need to be watching him very closely. He was the one to stear me toward Hillary.
Sisterdo, just donated $10 on hillaryclinton.com to help her debt.
#151 VA PUMA on 06.19.08 at 7:41 pm CasperCar #69 Ouuuuu you are very quick and cleaver!! I typed it as she said it, that is nearly a quote. But I, unlike you, did not see the significance! Wow, so if her debt is not paid off, she cannot work for Obama. Hummmmmmmmmmmm
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Yes, but I believe that if her debt is not fully paid off before the convention that she can only recoup $250,000 of her own money that she donated to her campaign. She donated about $11-13 million of her personal money. I could be wrong but I seem to recall reading it somewhere that that’s how it works. Probably on the FEC campaing finannce website.
Ok watched the You Tube videos GRRRRR makes me mad.But on the bright side i will be going to Denver
I’m back but off to my den to figure out what I’ve sent to be posted and what I still need to do.
Hiya Night Pumas!
Immediately after conference call I phoned her campaign headquarters and asked specifically if donations made on HillaryClinton.com would go DIRECTLY to HRC and the staffer stated yes it would, and that anything else would be illegal ie… go to Nobama,DNC.This is Hillary’s campaign office information. I had concerns once and called and the staff was extremely helpful.
Hillary Clinton for President
4420 North Fairfax Drive
Arlington, VA 22203
Headquarters: 703.469.2008
Fax: 703.962.8600
HRC debt info
Under no circumstances should a candidate of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s caliber be beholden to anybody other than voters to retire her primary campaign debt. If you have not already donated $2300 to Hillary Clinton for President, every dollar you give now goes directly to retiring that debt. It also ensures that Senator Clinton cannot be pressured into releasing her delegates or removing her name from the ballot. Senator Clinton kept her pledge to campaign in every last state this primary season and she laid out the funds. Now we can give back and keep faith with Senator Clinton. Act Blue is required by law to send any money raised here directly to Hillary Clinton for President. But if you would like to participate to retire the debt by going directly to Senator Clinton’s campaign page, you can do so via this link,
http://tinyurl.com/yvcvx4
For full information on the importance of retiring Senator Clinton’s primary debt please see http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/. You can also contact me there.
194 prplvette85 on 06.19.08 at 7:58 pm
Regarding stickers–I still have my Hill decal on my truck and it’s not going anywhere but staying there. I get more honks with a “thumbs up” than a negative. Yeah, I have gotten a couple of thumbs down, but nothing over the top. Speaking of bumper stickers/yard signs. In my opinion, that is the best way to get a feel of your local area–”poll.” The hypertension of Barack is hypo tension in my area. I have only seen 1 yard sign and maybe 10 stickers on cars and I am talking about metro Houston,TX area. Several McCain stickers are starting to be visible in the past week.
#210 DancesWithPumas on 06.19.08 at 8:07 pm
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Lucky you! I haven’t received any snail mail from him yet. I must not be on Michelle’s Christmas card list. Oh well.
#210 DancesWithPumas
For sure, among other things.
ShortTermer
I’m in with the $10!
#182 obamawire – Wow! Lots of great info there, I’ll be reading long into the night. It’s easy to see you’ve put a lot of work into it. Thanks!
Someone told me I should take my Hillary sticker off today and I said I will after she wins at the convention
ok all will be back later and if someone can find Barbara Layton’s e-mail i sure would like to write her.
#216 sandipuma on 06.19.08 at 8:09 pm Ok watched the You Tube videos GRRRRR makes me mad.But on the bright side i will be going to Denver
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Just make sure you take your gas mask and your change of undies for the pepper gas and the so-called ‘crap cannon’ they have planned for all you ‘protesters’! LOL!!
JUST KIDDING FOLKS!!!! These are the ‘rumors’ flying around the internet. They’re just trying to scare us into not showing up in Denver is all.
FIGHT ON PUMAs!!!
Please keep children away from the second video on this post or suffer the need for lifetime of therapy.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/
Murphy Do you know anything about this other
PUMA group
#224 nightsky on 06.19.08 at 8:14 pm
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Great come back!
Okay, let’s name the losers now associated with nObama:
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
Kerry (up for re-election)
Gore
Pelosi (up for re-election in Nov.)
Reid
Nick Lampson (D-TX) lost in 2004 is up for re-election
Dodd
Gollsbee
Biden
Brazilla
McCaskill
Howard the Coward Dean
Tom Hanks
Susan Sarandon
Michael Moore
Jimmy Carter (Obama will be a second Carter)
….copy this and paste it into your post if I missed any.
We need 10 $5 donations before midnight to retire Hillary’s debt, and help get her to Convention.
This is Heidi Li’s direct site, donate here and it all goes to Hillary (it’s her Hillary link) and none goes to DNC, NONE goes to Obama.
This is going to help Heidi (read about her at any time, please visit Word Press Heidi Li’s Potpourri, link below). She’s a Pro-Clinton fundraiser, Lawyer, philosophy PhD and professor.
She’s going full speed ahead finding ways to keep Dean from pulling Hillary’s power, and also putting her in a position to be at the Convention like every other candidate in history. Why should the first woman be the first one stopped?
ALL DONATIONS NEED TO BE IN BY MIDNIGHT FOR HER TO COUNT THEM, IT’S 10 $5 DONATIONS, TO PAY DOWN HILLARY’S DEBT AND SUPPORT HER IN HER PROJECT TO GET HILLARY TO DENVER…………..against Howard the Scream Dean’s totalitarian attempts to keep her off ballot and maybe even pull Convention.
Have you ever heard of such a thing? Heidi is very active in trying to keep this from happening, she is working to keep this from happening.
CHECK OUT HEIDI LI, ABOUT HER AND HER 2 MAJOR PROJECTS, RETIRING THE DEBT AND GETTING HILLARY TO DENVER THROUGH SUPPORTERS.
Today, she will match every donation with a donation to keep one Hillary site up and running (PUMA’s know about it, it’s Bitterpoliticz, a sister site for all turning down Barky and supporting Clinton Dem causes).
HEIDI’S SITE IF YOU WANT TO READ UP ON HER http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/
PLEASE, PLEASE IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE $5 TODAY’S THE DAY TO DO IT!
HERE’S THE LINK, ALL TO HILLARY, NONE TO DNC OR BO.
http://tinyurl.com/yvcvx4
GET TO KNOW DR. HEIDI LI, SHE’S TRYING TO MOVE HEAVEN AND EARTH TO PUT HILLARY IN BEST POSITION FOR FUTURE…….and she’s been an amazing, best fundraiser in the world and all around Polyanna for Hillary from Day 1. She’s one person who’ll be doing a lot more this long, hot summer.
PLEASE, $5. IF YOU CAN, PLEASE DO IT NOW! Thank you.
#228 – It’s funny how it started.
Read it here: http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/monday-puma-power/
If I recall from PUMA Pac’s first days, Murphy was inspired and started her own PUMA site. She calmed the name down a bit and here we are……growl……uh……growing every day!
#219 Murphy
Why is my post in moderation???
#230 ShortTermer…..
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
Kerry (up for re-election)
Gore
Pelosi (up for re-election in Nov.)
Reid
Nick Lampson (D-TX) lost in 2004 is up for re-election
Dodd
Gollsbee
Biden
Brazilla
McCaskill
Howard the Coward Dean
Tom Hanks
Susan Sarandon
Michael Moore
Jimmy Carter (Obama will be a second Carter)
Patrick Leahy from VT (tried to get Hillary out of the race early on)
“#179 nightsky on 06.19.08 at 7:51 pm
I used the latest envelop from BO and its contents to pick up after my dogs when I took them on a walk. Gave me great pleasure.”
Lol! Did the dog poop mask the smell of the letter, or do you need something a little stronger?
to the new members, please sign the petition
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House
the estimate of Hillary’s campaign debt is in the neighborhood of 20 million with at least 11 of that being her own money. she made very clear today on the conference call that she was not seeking to recoup her 11 million but to pay the other which fund the vendors etc…that’s a classy lady right there to feel that her 11 million was a necessary and smart investment that she does not want back…that’s why we love her!
Thanks! Maryland PUMA for clearing that up.
#244 nightsky–:)
My brother told me the same thing a couple of weeks ago. He said, “you do know she lost?” I told him how can you lose something that you never had, especially when it was stolen before you got it? I wish I could share the look I got in return. (confusion mixed with constipation)
#230 ShortTermer on 06.19.08 at 8:18 pm
Okay, let’s name the losers now associated with nObama:
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
Kerry (up for re-election)
Gore
Pelosi (up for re-election in Nov.)
Reid
Nick Lampson (D-TX) lost in 2004 is up for re-election
Dodd
Gollsbee
Biden
Brazilla
McCaskill
Howard the Coward Dean
Tom Hanks
Susan Sarandon
Michael Moore
Jimmy Carter (Obama will be a second Carter)
….copy this and paste it into your post if I missed any
and Jane Fonda
NotFallingInLine – I changed the wikipedia page.
I added a link to obama-wire.com to the links page on the Action Center.
http://pumapacusa.org
Okay, let’s name the losers now associated with nObama:
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
Kerry (up for re-election)
Gore
Pelosi (up for re-election in Nov.)
Reid
Nick Lampson (D-TX) lost in 2004 is up for re-election
Dodd
Gollsbee
Biden
Brazilla
McCaskill
Howard the Coward Dean
Tom Hanks
Susan Sarandon
Michael Moore
Jimmy Carter (Obama will be a second Carter)
Patrick Leahy (tried to push Hillary out of race)
Jane Fonda
….copy this and paste it into your post if I missed any
mini vee, i agree with you, to donate to put ads in swings states, that would work really well I think. What does everyone else think?
Marylandpuma #236, exactly right.
#219 Jeremy- Hey I know how you feel. I lived in Houston before moving here to help in laws because they are ill. I lived in the spring area. I was there during the 2000 election. Of course I had my kerry edwards stickers…on my car, but I worked at a huge Honda dealership that was all republican men. I was in hell on a daily basis lol.
If I were there now…boy would they be shocked…I might have even let them know I was considering McCain …
Please sign the petition
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House
#236 queen81 on 06.19.08 at 8:23 pm
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Very classy lady indeed. So much class she makes the no- named one look like a pompous, pretentious, arrogant buffoon – oh that’s right – he actually IS all that!
Sorry, just had to go there…
Okay, I keep getting stuck in moderation hell with my links. It’s too important so I’m going to re-try with a way for you to just search yourself.
CAN YOU GIVE $5 TODAY to Heid Li Feldman’s site to Pay Down Hillary’s debt. She will also be working to get Hillary to Convention all summer, so we need to get started today.
HERE’S HER NOTE,HERE’S WHAT SHE’S ASKING:
“Today is a packed with academic responsibilities, but I always like to say hello over here. Much is happening with The Denver Group, very exciting. Will share what I can later.
Meanwhile, a little incentive for RETIRE THE DEBT: if you can find one person to donate $5.00 to the cause via (I have to give you a way to search this, moderation hell blocking me), and at least 10 donations arrive before midnight tonight, I will send Blue $100 for treats!”
“Blue” is her promise to match funds to troll block Pro Hillary Anti BO sites.
PLEASE, GO TO “HEIDI LI’S POTPOURRI AT WORDPRESS” BY GOOGLING IT (I CAN’T GET THROUGH MODERATION) AND DONATE $5 BEFORE MIDNIGHT TO PAY DOWN HILLARY’S DEBT.
LONG TERM STRATEGY…….is getting Hillary to Convention in her starring role, giving her the best amount of power while Dean and Co. try to purge the Clintons.
Don’t let it happen, help Heidi today, go donte $5, if you can, today’s the day to do it to get this project really kicked off.
Turning down Barky, Helping Hillary keep as much power as possible gets in full swing TONIGHT.
God bless.
REPOST
HRC debt info
Under no circumstances should a candidate of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s caliber be beholden to anybody other than voters to retire her primary campaign debt. If you have not already donated $2300 to Hillary Clinton for President, every dollar you give now goes directly to retiring that debt. It also ensures that Senator Clinton cannot be pressured into releasing her delegates or removing her name from the ballot. Senator Clinton kept her pledge to campaign in every last state this primary season and she laid out the funds. Now we can give back and keep faith with Senator Clinton. Act Blue is required by law to send any money raised here directly to Hillary Clinton for President. But if you would like to participate to retire the debt by going directly to Senator Clinton’s campaign page, you can do so via this link,
http://tinyurl.com/yvcvx4
For full information on the importance of retiring Senator Clinton’s primary debt please see http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/. You can also contact me there.
Loca2525, Not handing them out, just placing them on cars in the parking lot.
Opps, I met Gore stickers in 2000, Kerry /Edwards in 2004.
I moved to Indiana in 2005.
Count me in
Thinking about the ads… good points 1) Denver and environs and 2) perhaps focusing on the offline folks. I think that there may be some merit to that….
Obviously it wouldn’t be insanely expensive to place ads in smaller local newspapers, etc. It would be more likely to reach the people who are offline. And I think it also fits so well with the message. About everyone counting. And stick it to no name– do with the news what he did with the caucuses! Beat him at his own grassroots game [insert evil laughter here]
It’s also got a certain surprise factor– you wouldn’t expect it so much in your local paper. Harder to miss I would think.
Not saying we shouldn’t do a big one, just that it might be worthwhile to do as many little ones as we can on the side.
#245 loca2525 on 06.19.08 at 8:27 pm NotFallingInLine – I changed the wikipedia page.
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I have a feeling we’ll need some PUMA volunteers to keep an eye on it so the bots don’t get ahead of us there and add their spew to our reference.
#254 scrubs56 on 06.19.08 at 8:34 pm Loca2525, Not handing them out, just placing them on cars in the parking lot.
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Somone mentioned earlier about it may be illegal in some places to do this? Also you have to be careful with all the sensitive car alarms out there these days.
can someone confirm something for me. i want to know if i have this right. if hillary doesn’t have her debt paid off they can keep her from the convention? is that right? what about edwards? does he have any debt? if she doesn’t retire her debt by then she has to give her delegates? that can’t be right can it? what if she can’t retire her debt ever? who pays for that?
58states1, i agree with that. An efficient way would be to do it in the small town papers of the swing states, where it reaches those that need to be reached. Any thoughts on this anyone?
#256 58states1 on 06.19.08 at 8:34 pm
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Very true. Many people I know (middle class, small to mid-size town, working folks) simply do not read the NYT or Wash Post – they prefer their local newspapers. An ad in local newspapers would go much further toward reaching our target audiences, IMHO.
#229 sandipuma –
Barbara Layton owns Babette’s. Can’t find an email, but maybe if you call they’ll be able to help?
Babette’s
66 Newtown Lane
East Hampton, NY 11937-2440
(631) 329-5377
#253 – went to Heidi’s site – donated 25 to hillary & 5 to the site – total 30 – I donated 50 to hillary a couple of days ago – I also donated to PumaPac and bought a tee-shirt – I gotta back off just a bit now – however, did tell goandersen or shorttermer I would donate for their cause as soon as I know what it is…………………
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House
Please sign the petition.
#62 feathersonwind
is anyone else concerned about this?
I worry about the potential for straw donors (which is how I think BO raised so much money, since we had close to equal voters- HRC had the popular vote- )but do his supporters have that much more money than we do?
I CANNOT believe that no one is investigating his donations. All of these poor people sending in $5.00??? Puh-lease- plenty of contributors to HRC were the same way- how the hell does he raise so much more?
I am thinking straws, straw donors.
We’re thinking along the same lines. I just sent an email to see how much it would cost to put an ad in the local Houston Hispanic Newspaper. If not too much, I’ll cover it myself (after Murphy approves of course). I also looked into the local Gay and Lesbian newspaper but they had a pretty negative article on McCain so I’m not sure it would do much good to advertise there.
#253 sisterdo on 06.19.08 at 8:32 pm
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http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/
Anyone hear of this site.
http://exposeobama.com/
For those who don’t immediately recognize name Heidi/ Heidi Li, or Heidi Li Feldman, she used her initials HLF at Taylor Marsh (before everyone left that current awful troll land) and was the one who did all the fundraising and matching donations drives, just about every major one was her……. and 30 year Dem would then calculate as the threads went on.
Okay, CU Later. P.U.M.A. baby. Try to donate $5 if you can and…… it’s a long summer. Smile. Let’s make it a hot under the collar one for Barky.
I’ll check out the rates for Arlington and Alexandria Gazette. These two smaller suburbs are just across the river from D.C. and most of the politico’s live here in the area. It will get a wide viewing audience of people who are very politically savy and active at this time. Be back with info on the morrow.
indypuma,
i hadn’t heard of it but it looks interesting.
Just made a donation to help pay Hillary’s debt. Makes me feel sooooo good!
#259 sheila7 –
Found this in a NYT article:
There is technically no deadline for Mrs. Clinton to pay back her creditors, but because of a clause in the McCain-Feingold campaign finance measure that was intended to limit the ability of candidates to self-finance campaigns, she has until the convention in August to pay herself back. After that, the most she could recover is $250,000.
Mrs. Clinton could also whittle down her debt by re-negotiating what she owes with her various creditors, but the Federal Election Commission would have to sign off to ensure that a good-faith effort was made to pay off the debt. It also must be satisfied that the renegotiated bills do not amount to an in-kind donation from a corporation to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign.
thank you mystic4hill
I just sent $10.00 to Hillary Clinton. I hope she gets enough money to help pay off her debt.
I was wathcing the news at work. Fox had something on about polls. I am wondering how many people they poll. They make it seem like they polled 1000s and 1000s of people.
Just made my donation through Heidi Li Feldman’s PAY DOWN THE DEBT campaign link on her blog page. Anyone like to join me? I gave $20.12 for 2012 – the year I hope Sen Clinton will be on the ballot for President (if we’re not lucky enough to have her on it this year)
Contribution Details
Date: June 19, 2008 8:45 PM CDT
Contact: PA4HILL08
Amount: $20.12
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/
Where is the video of Cavuto today?
Hi Pumas,
I’m just getting on. Didn’t read any of the comments here yet, just want you to know that Murphy’s blog and Flineo’s videos made me more determined than ever to right the wrong that’s been done in this primary.
I have no illusions, we have a tough fight ahead of us. Obama has created a campaign unlike any seen since 1930s Germany. He is training supporters in camps, going after elementary school students, moving the headquarters of the party, remaking his wife, leaving us all with one question. Where does the illusion end and the truth begin?
It’s all very frightening, but we must educate people. This is just my personal opinion, but we must stop trying to sway leaders within the party and educate the masses. This is the only way we are going to stop Obama. Thoughts?
#222 goandersen on 06.19.08 at 8:10 pm
OK, Andersen, looks legit. I’m going to donate at the tinyurl site.
Does anyone know exactly or fairly closely what the debt is now?
PA4Hill08
I am sending you more documents. IF they’ll ever go thru. GRRRR.
Probably the most read ‘local’ paper in my area would be the Harrisburg Patriot news.
Who is our coordinator for gathering advertising prices in newspapers and other venues for PUMA PAC?
Maryland PUMA do we have such a coordinator set up yet?
@280 Brooklyn
Not sure. No word on that yet.
I have donated in all three places! I want her to pay those vendors! She has done so much!
#281 Maryland PUMA on 06.19.08 at 8:52 pm
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Checking my email now…
Okay, let’s name the losers now associated with nObama:
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
Kerry (up for re-election)
Gore
Pelosi (up for re-election in Nov.)
Reid
Nick Lampson (D-TX) lost in 2004 is up for re-election
Dodd
Gollsbee
Biden
Brazilla
McCaskill
Howard the Coward Dean
Tom Hanks
Susan Sarandon
Michael Moore
Jimmy Carter (Obama will be a second Carter)
Patrick Leahy (tried to push Hillary out of race)
Jane Fonda
TaylorMarsh (on my own list but added after reading #270–if anyone does not agree, I understand)
….copy this and paste it into your post if I missed any
#34 MamaPuma
Thanks so much for that media email list you provided. That will be a great help.
I’ve started putting daily pressure on Obama to do the weekly town hall meetings with John McCain. Obama is more than capable of tripping himself up if he’s backed into that corner. But he keeps avoiding it.
So every day, I’m sending emails challenging him. How many times did he say “I welcome that debate with John McCain”? So why won’t he agree to the debates? Perhaps he’s scared of McCain, knowing that McCain will expose his lack of substance behind all the rhetoric. Perhaps he’s dismissive of voters who want to hear those debates. Perhaps he’s just not a man of his word.
How many times has Obama touted himself as the best candidate to reach across the aisle? Then why can’t he reach across his campaign platform when John McCain keeps extending the invitation? Surely this shows us how “bipartisan” this man really is.
I intend to keep rubbing in that message until it sinks in. I’ve been sending the message to Obama, the DNC, Howard Dean, etc. I’m sending similar messages to McCain and the RNC, hoping they’ll run with it and turn it into a television commercial. But now that you’ve provided those media links, I can send copies to the media as well. If they run with it, it will build momentum.
Great job, MamaPuma.
We were shown by every one from media and worse of all DNC that as white women we have no power.
Bottom line they were more afraid of the so precocious precious young and the black community than us. Whynot?..after all we always fall in line and do what we are told. They rather make us upset for a while than speaking the truth.
Well this white woman is sick and tired of being taken for granted by the establishment.
Using Obama’s terms, I am feeling down and my claws have come out – and, as Michelle said about Bill… I am ready to scratch DNC’s eyes out .
We must advance our cause this time or we have bought ourselves a life in the basement permanently.
“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last”
Let’s not feed this crocodile (DNC) any longer!
Here lies a starving PUMA waiting.
Now I have to run and shave my hair.LOL
#274 mystic4hill
thanks for posting that.
Edited our wikipedia entry. it’s concise, precise, and brief — the Puma way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PUMA_Pac
#279 antifish on 06.19.08 at 8:51 pm
I agree with you. My goal here is not just short term; this is much bigger than just making the DNC/Dean/Pelosi et al correct their mistake.
I believe you’re right – it’s got to concentrate on the educating the masses, that’s the only way the leadership is going to listen….if there’s overwhelming pressure from the grass roots and what little media isn’t so mesmerized by the hype (see Murphy’s intro at the top of the blog) that they’re blinded.
It makes me nervous like you wouldn’t believe….And it all fits into place.
Did you see this link that was posted earlier. (I think by goandersen….). If you haven’t already, I strongly recommend you take a look.
http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm
It’s just one more piece of the puzzle.
Murphy, great job! I just took a look at the wiki entry. Short and sweet.
haveing quite a talk with a cory perry. I hadnt heard of this site :politivine.com. I think kind of new anyone heard of it?Got to get back.BRB
ShortTermer I wll gladly donate $10. I just donated to Hillary as well.
I love the Flineo videos, I wish they were on TV where more people could see them.
Hi Pumas – just saw that Geraldine Ferraro will be on Hannity & Coombs right now
#267 muchadoaboutsomething
On the contrary. The GLBT community are for the most part die hard supporters of Senator Clinton. I would not count them out. The are a very large voting population.
#290 – looked at the site – I believe they’re nuts and I want them to know that it ain’t gonna happen – jeez – no wonder the middle east is a mess – they’re trying to go back to the 7th century – these guys only want 400 years – get real………………….sorry but this kind of shit just makes me crazy – I don’t owe them anything -
#295. Right, I have no doubt that they are hard core supporters of Senator Clinton. I was just concerned from the article that they were willing to vote for *61. But your right. I shouldn’t make that judgement and I’ll check their rates for ads. Thanks for keeping me honest goanderson.
#289 Murphy,
Someone is messing with wiki. “To spread their belief that a black man is not ready to be president?”
I’m there Susie1945
Murphy—Is this what you put in wikipedia? Does not sound like you.
“5. To spread their beliefs that a black man is not fit to be President of the United States.
6. To continually search for negative information about Senator Obama and spread their findings without any evidence that what they say is the truth. In other words, to spread lies.”
Re: Very interesting article just posted at No Quarters.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
That “Guy Who Lives in My Neighborhood”: Behind the Ayers-Obama Relationship »
Susie1945 on 06.19.08 at 8:39 pm
THANK YOU ….. YOU ARE AWESOME!
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PA4HILL08 on 06.19.08 at 8:41 pm
THANK YOU! For putting the link up. Much appreciated.
#297 MuchAdoAboutSomething
Not a lecture. The community is just as diverse as this on here.
I just want people to know we are here and working on this, and that they should join us.
Heads Up Murphy! Went back the the Wiki site and it has been edited with #5 and #6. Does not look good.
Got my daily Growl finished.
It seems we are getting more coverage everyday on FOX. Hillary Clinton Supporters.
I tried to get to obama-wire but keeps sending me to a site named Ask. From there I can’t find the site. I even tried to got through Google and still sent to ASK.
Hi PUMAs, happy to join the group. I’ve had to leave the now fascist blog, MyDD, because I wrote a diary to address retiring HRC’s campaign debt and linked to this site. Obots just cannot handle independent minded Democrats who can think for themselves. BTW, I donated $100 to HRC and bought some more t-shirts to help retire the debt.
NObama 08! PUMAs unite!
#289 Murphy,
Is this really a PUMA goal? (From Wikipedia):
5. To spread their beliefs that a black man is not fit to be President of the United States.
If it is, I have a sincere problem with that.
Best,
JGoldman1
I just erased #5 and #6 from Wiki.
Hi Jeremy,
Just caught your comment about Wikipedia. I thought it was out there. Thanks!
~JGoldman1
It looks like our new friend with obama-wire and our wiki definition has been hacked. Doesn’t it take admistration passwords to edit these things?
It would only take one print out and need I say more. Thanks Muchado #307!
#304 Jeremy on 06.19.08 at 9:12 pm
I just went to wiki a second ago and used Murphy’s link posted above and it only went to #4. There was no #5, #6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PUMA_Pac
Am I missing something?
My son says that is one of the major probs with WIKI: it can be easily edited. We all need to check it frequently
308 JGoldman1 on 06.19.08 at 9:14 pm
No problem. Apparently those “revisions” were added within the last half hour, but MuchAdo seem to have fixed it.
#290 Brooklyn,
Wow, that’s just too much to digest! And to think Obama has close ties to their leader. This is precisely one example of what we must educate people about. We cannot, in good conscience, let the masses of this country be fooled to supporting such an agenda.
Response to #279 antifish
As PUMAS and other groups become more visible, we are starting to chip away at *61’s credibility. The key is the media. Where are the honest reporters that should be vetting this guy?
Sam Donaldson from ABC News had an article about *61 opting out of public financing in the GE. The comments on the blogs are what you would expect from his supporters.
This reminds me of the movie “The Invasion of the Body Snatchers” where really intelligent people are falling in line behind the most unqualified person to run for President in ages.
CNN was spinning the idea that voters liked the way *61 raised his money for the campaign. How do they know? Does anyone believe that he raised all his money from small Internet donors? Right, I have swampland that I would like to sell from China. We just have to keep the pressure on.
I just made a donation to retire Hillary’s debt at the tinyurl site. Wish there was some way of knowing how much is left of it…
Nightsky see #307.
Jeremy
re wiki- i’m not sure but i think murphy can somehow block this or lock this as an administrator. don’t know the details but maybe you can check murphy.
Sorry BooklyNY, see #307. Got four windows open here.
Heads up…..long post coming…..project list
PUMA PROJECT & CONTACT LIST
UPDATE: 06/19/08 @ 09:30 pm EST
NEW MEMBERS (send name, state, edress, PUMAPAC name)
EMAIL: mamapumamass@aol.com
SUBJECT: NEW PUMA
PUMAPACUSA UPDATES (action site)
EMAIL: pa4hill08.puma@gmail.com
SUBJECT: SITE UPDATE
‘FRIENDS’ LIST
EMAIL: marylandpuma@gmail.com
SUBJECT: FRIEND
‘FOES’ LIST
EMAIL: Marylandpuma@gmail.com
SUBJECT: FOE
FLIERS
EMAIL: marylandpuma@gmail.com
SUBJECT: FLIERS
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR (send copy)
EMAIL: marylandpuma@gmail.com
SUBJECT: LTR TO EDITOR (your city, county, state)
SEND ACTION IDEAS
EMAIL: marylandpuma@gmail.com
SUBJECT: ACTION SEND
RECEIVE ACTION IDEAS
EMAIL: marylandpuma@gmail.com
SUBJECT: ACTION RECEIVE
DAILY ACTION FLIER
EMAIL: marylandpuma@gmail.com
SUBJECT: DAILY FLIER
BLOG MODERATOR BY STATE
EMAIL: murphy@pumapac.org
SUBJECT: PACMOD (your state)
BRAZILEWATCH (responses from her to you)
EMAIL: Murphy@pumapac.org
SUBJECT: BRAZILE
MYSPACE PAGE
EMAIL: loca2525@hotmail.com
SUBJECT: PUMA MYSPACE
MILLIONWOMANMARCH
EMAIL: mpkforsclinton@gmail.com
SUBJECT: MARCH
FLORIDA & GEORGIA LOCAL ACTIVITY
EMAIL: dragonflypuma@gmail.com
SUBJECT: FL/GA LOCAL
PAC TSHIRTS & MUGS
EMAIL: murphy@pumapac.org
SUBJECT: TSHIRT/MUG
CUSTOM PAC TSHIRTS
EMAIL: hill2thehill@yahoo.com
SUBJECT: PUMA CUSTOM SHIRT
LETTER TO HOWARD DEAN (copy of your)
EMAIL: mamapumamass@aol.com
SUBJECT: HDEAN LETTER
BUTTONS
EMAIL: mpkforsclinton@gmail.com
SUBJECT: PUMA Buttons
POLITICAL CARTOONS
EMAIL: loca2525@hotmail.com
SUBJECT: Cartoons
SPANISH TRANSLATORS (for fliers)
EMAIL: melipalpuma@yahoo.com
EMAIL: lara08pumadem@gmail.com
SUBJECT: SPANISH Documents
WRITTEN VERIFICATION OF CONVENTION ROLL CALL
EMAIL: Dragonflypuma@gmail.com
EMAIL: Alohapuma (need edress please)
LIST OF TALKING POINTS (to refute *61 claims)
EMAIL: Puma.Elaine@gmail.com
SUBJECT: Talking Point
UPCOMING POLITICAL EVENTS BY STATE
EMAIL: rebelqi@gmail.com (goandersen)
SUBJECT: Political Event
LIST OF PUMA ‘WANTS’ (what we hope to accomplish)
EMAIL: Zephyr (need edress please)
EMAIL: SassySenora (need edress please)
NEED COORDINATORS:
WIKIPEDIA MONITOR
BUMPER STICKERS/WINDOW CLINGS (general pricing)
SPANISH BLOGGERS (for alternate language sites)
SUGGESTED NEWSPAPER AD TARGETS (newspaper name, city, state)
ONCE A DAY STATS ON SEARCH ENGINES FOR PUMA PAC (where are we on list?)
LIAISONS TO SISTER SITES (bloggers)
SPANISH-SPEAKING ACTIVISTS (constituent contact)
LIST OF REASONS WHY (why we are doing this)
Murphey~ perhaps you could slip the word “four” as in “The four stated goals of the Puma Pac are:” Perhaps who ever is doing this will not notice the change, Some way to protect us though.
#282 PA4HILL08
Do you think each of us can call our local newspaper and get a rate/price quote for running an ad (usually they will give you the price for size, day it runs, etc.)? It makes more sense that someone in his/her area call vs. one person doing the research and then making the call.
I have time to consolidate the info and make a list but not that much free time to do the research and call every single local newspaper that we name. Besides, you know your cities best and what’s popular locally. Once we have a list of maybe 10 or 20, we then can decide which ones are the best used of our money based on circulation, demographics, etc..
What do you think?
32 ladyhawkke on 06.19.08 at 6:55 pm
“After watching the Daily Growl videos, I can’t understand what’s going on. It’s a Jim Jones thing, too bad the kool aid isn’t stronger.”
HAH! Funniest line ever, ladyhawkke.
Pooh
I think you will enjoy this one.
Just push listen on #5
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/talkradio/Show.aspx?RadioShowID=5
I remember reading an article on BO’s donors. Part of it was about Karl Rove encouraging people to support BO because he felt McCain could beat BO. The other was how relatives of the oil companies were making large donations.
Got to go for a moment Geri is on Hannity
22 ShortTermer
I’ll donate 200.00 to the idea, if its pemissable, I’m still not sure of the rules of what I can and can’t donate to.
Hi everyone,
I’m just checking in again. I haven’t sent my letters to the 10 senators, but I will do so as soon as I can (before Saturday). I just wanted to give you a bit of good news. My mail out seems to be paying off. I’ve received several messages from people. I received this e-mail today.:
“Ms _______, I agree with you totally and will vote for John Mccain. Enough is enough.
[deleted person's name]
Presidency
[deleted organization's name]”
I’m becoming more convinced that millions of people silently agree with us. I’m trying not to get too stressed out about all this anymore because much of my worrying comes from the fear that people are buying BO’s media blitz. Many aren’t. I spoke to others to get their feedback about what we are doing. I asked them straight out, “Do you think we should stop protesting?” They said we should keep the protest going. I’ve been telling those who feel they can’t come right out and say they can’t vote for BO (because it would create problems in their families, etc.), that we need people to send letters (even if they can only include their first names) and e-mails to news organizations and the DNC. We need to voice our disapproval of the DNC’s actions now. Unfortunately, I do not believe that one person or previously established group is going to act. We are the ones that need to act.
I will be in and out sporadically during this next week because I have work and family obligations, but do know that I’ll be working on things as much as I can.
Best of luck! Thank you everyone for all your hard work. It will pay off. We are changing the political culture in our country.
Sincerely,
Lara08
PUMA Alert about Wikipedia
Anyone can go in and edit that site. Does any PUMA truly believe that Murphy would write down the awful points from 5 & 6? Folks, please use your common sense. We might need a daily monitor for that site to make sure that it is accurate.
#149 Terrig on 06.19.08 at 7:39 pm
I am in for $10 or $20.
If this is for the Heidi Drive, thank you so much.
If I’m mistaken, thanks to whatever you’re doing to help Hillary, or Stop Barky.
Hey Guys and Gals,
Sorry for the hiatus. I was looking over some of the remark about my website and I am not seeing a problem with the site. It has not been hacked.
Check It out and let me know what you think
http://www.obama-wire.com
Cheers
P.S. Hill4PA thanks for the link!
MarylandPuma, I just sent you an email volunteering for a task.
#217 LoveHillary on 06.19.08 at 8:09 pm
Sisterdo, just donated $10 on hillaryclinton.com to help her debt.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!
Don’t forget to give http://camille424.wordpress.com some love. :0)
Jgoldman #309 — good to see you!
geraldine was just on. she still won’t say she supports BO, she is still a hillary supporter and her focus is on sexism. you go girl!
hey, i was just on wiki, be careful. if you don’t log in on a secure area, it tracks your ip address. i do not trust that. I lost my last computer because someone hacked into it. I am not that computer saavy, so I really don’t like going to sites I know nothing about.
#277 PA4HILL08 on 06.19.08 at 8:48 pm
Just made my donation through Heidi Li Feldman’s PAY DOWN THE DEBT campaign link on her blog page. Anyone like to join me? I gave $20.12 for 2012 – the year I hope Sen Clinton will be on the ballot for President (if we’re not lucky enough to have her on it this year)
Contribution Details
Date: June 19, 2008 8:45 PM CDT
Contact: PA4HILL08
Amount: $20.12
THIS IS AWESOME! THANK YOU (great idea too)!!!!!!
I luv Geraldine Farraro! From her visit on Hannity and Colmes tonight: She’s still a Hillary supporter and instead of drinking the BO kool-aid, she is working and will continue to work toward bringing focus onto the sexism that happened in this campaign and still happens around the corporate and other worlds that women have to work and play in. Way to go GF!!! Give her a positive shout out PUMAs!
Geraldine Ferraro did not endorse *61 – said she is still in Hillary’s camp and supports her – H&C kept pressing her about voting for *61 – & she said – my vote is my vote – do you tell everyone who you’re voting for?? I’m still focused on Hillary and her campaign. Danm Gerry, I liked you when you ran with Walter and I still like you -beginning to think there are more women with “cajones” than just Hillary – however politically incorrect that statement may be or physically impossible…………………………
#315 EWard,
Yes! There are several articles about how Obama is using “bundlers” to raise campaign cash. He also gets donations from employees of firms such as Exelon instead of taking direct contributions from the company. All of this must be stressed to the people who don’t bother to educate themselves before voting. Obama is just as “bought” as any candidate, but he is trying to “hoodwink” the Masses about it. If we don’t somehow counter this, it will be a big selling point for him.
#330–No. We are brain storming on how to monitor this now. This was edited by someone outside our group.
#332–Did not mean to send out that alarm. Someone posted that they tried to go there and was redirected and all during the time that the wikipedia definition was been altered. Sorry for any confusion.
#330 EWard on 06.19.08 at 9:24 pm PUMA Alert about Wikipedia
Anyone can go in and edit that site. Does any PUMA truly believe that Murphy would write down the awful points from 5 & 6? Folks, please use your common sense. We might need a daily monitor for that site to make sure that it is accurate.
——————————-
Murphy or Maryland Puma! We need a volunteer or volunteers for monitoring the Wiki listing.
#329 lara08 says
“We are changing the political culture in our country ”
I agree and that is why this site is so important. We will honor one of Hillary’s WANTs that our voices be heard. We won’t back down. I wish there was a way to know if Hillary knows how strong and committed her support is.
Another Anti NOBAMA
http://www.exposeobama.com/ads.html
Pat Buchanan was on before Gerri. I’ve always thought he was a closet Hillary supporter. He says BO and his wife are being “packaged” for the media. Told what to say and when, how to dress, etc.
You had me worried Jeremy (#343). I have been in several different blogs before and have witnessed first hand the brutality of these Obama supporters. That is one of the reasons I decided to fight back with my site. Its http://www.Obama-Wire.Com for those who are having trouble finding it
Let Me Know if you have any questions
Hi Murphy! … the more I am out there -I’ve become quite gun shy. The world has gone nuts! Sorry I inquired in such a way towards you on the Wiki thing. It’s just that nothing is surprising me these days…
Question everything, right?!
Best,
JGoldman1
#341 Susie1945 on 06.19.08 at 9:30 pm
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Well we all know that Hillary has ‘testicular fortitude’! LOL! That was one of the most memorable moments on the campaign trail. Sen Clinton’s facial response to that representation of her by the gentlemen introducing her (forget his name) was absolutley priceless!
goandersen,
Was it you that posted that noi article link earlier….either on this thread or the previous one?
All4mygirl just grabbed the newspaper project.
If you are in a swing state, please contact her at all4mygirl@gmail.com to work out what info she needs from your areas.
We will focus on other purple states later.
Thanks all4mygirl. You ROCK!
PUMA PAT to you!
#341 Susie1945,
Me too! I’ve always admired Geraldine Ferraro! She is one tough cookie and one great American!
I just googled “PUMA PAC” and this is what I found
346,000 references. In just 2+ weeks!
Results 21 – 30 of about 346,000 for PUMA PAC. (0.04 seconds
Wiki monitor is on the project list……any takers?
POST 322
348 obamawire on 06.19.08 at 9:35 pm
Let Me Know if you have any questions
Kudos! Questions? I think you have alot of my bases covered. Awesome site!
J~
My husband was watching Bill O’Reilly and Bill said Michelle looks wonderful. He agreed with his guest that the media is “in love “with them and gives them great coverage. He said Obama and Michelle were different and people like that. I believe Bill is a big Obama supporter also…just a guess. Never hear him called the presumtive nominee only the nominee.
#345 zephyr
how do we know she hasn’t sent out an ally to read our blogs?? We don’t, but I think she has and knows exactly what is going on. She ain’t no dummy.
*61 Fundraising
He raised about $265 million dollars and donations of $200 or less accounted for nearly half. However, where is the other half of $130 million dollars coming from?
The WP had an editorial stating that *61 and McCain should use the federal financing system for the GE.
Remember Watergate, if you follow the money, the pieces of the puzzle will fall together.
has anyone received their shirts? i was just wondering because i wanted to order mine but i was wondering if the sizes were true or if they ran big or small?
#357 4hillinca on 06.19.08 at 9:42 pm
I doubt Bill O’Reilly is an Obama fan but I do think maybe he’d like them to come on his show….
#361 BrooklynNY Yeah, I agree but he sure does defend him. And yes he does want him on the show. Would be interesting!
361 BrooklynNY on 06.19.08 at 9:45 pm #357 4hillinca on 06.19.08 at 9:42 pm
I doubt Bill O’Reilly is an Obama fan but I do think maybe he’d like them to come on his show….
This is a gesture to soften them up. He wants that interview. He had Hill for 2 nights and he is salivating for both B and M. O’Reilly is cunning. He is after an interview.
#360 – haven’t received mine yet & don’t know what I’ll be getting cuz I was in such a hurry to order didn’t specify mens or womens – so surprise, surprise, surprise………………………
I hope they do, in fact. It would be interesting to do a compare and constrast between “theirs” and “hers.”
Coombs on Hannity & C is kool aid drinker – defending him all over the place – boo!
195 prplvette85 on 06.19.08 at 7:58 pm
I LOVE your story! We’re coming out of the shadows, not living in fear.
________
#306 grlpatriot on 06.19.08 at 9:12 pm
GRLPATRIOT WELCOME……..AWESOME HELP ON DEBT TOO.
Non-fascist blog list. Here. Also Bitterpolitics (hopefully spaces below will let my link go though).
http: // camille424.wordpress. com/
And where else you guys? Grlpatriot is a friend rescued from the dark side.
Riverdaughter, Savage Politics….
I know I was saved from Daily Kooks first by a list, then saved from TM by another list. Time for the Democracy-Hillary Migration to keep moving……..I like whoever said, it’s Hillary or McCAin, DNC, you decide. Smile.
#359 Eward
What does the *61 stand for.
Hello everyone
Money – Opensecrets.org
If you want to look at the money, check the site below – neatly organized info about political/campaign finances, listed every which way you can imagine.
http://www.opensecrets.org/
Friendly growl out to all Pumas
#330 EWard, you know what they say about a good defense?
#363 Jeremy on 06.19.08 at 9:48 pm
Exactly what I think also.
#368 Hi Barbara.
I wish O’Reilly would quit shining Obarky……..get a grip. It’s not about rating idiot, save your country and go all in against Obarky.
There’s…. a lot of material in case Billo doesn’t know.
#370 Hi Brian.
who is this guy on Fox saying the DEM party is all unified
Hi Susie1945–Combs is paid to do that. But it is sickening to watch or listen to the “script.” I do not miss my DirectTv one bit.
#366 Susie1945 Yes he does defend Obama however he was a Hillary supporter. Now I think he is defending the party.
#326 disenchanted
Lol I would like to see Obama sheepdipped. Winnie the pooh lol. This IS turning in to a real fairy tale and Noname wants to be the King and His wife the Queenbee. It’s Scarey!
#364 Barbara4hill-*61 stands for Obama. He was born in 1961. He gets referred to here as *61, BO, BHO, etc.
THANK TO ALL WHO HAVE DONATED THROUGH HEIDI’S LINK SO FAR (UP AT #235 FOR ANYONE ELSE WHO CAN DO IT, JUST $5 FOR HILLARY’S DEBT), AND ALL WHO CONTINUE TO DO SO…..MUCH APPRECIATED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE.
Just removed this from wiki. We will hve to be vigilent about this.
5. To spread their beliefs that a black man is not fit to be President of the United States.
6. To continually spread negative things about Senator Obama without including any proof that what they say is the truth.
7. To show the world how uneducated they are by their poor spelling and lack of proper use of the English language.
8. To ’spit’ in Hillary’s face by going against everything she has worked for and believes.
oops, it was #368 barbara4hill that asked about*61.
wiki – again – ok, they keep adding stuff – it’s pointless to try to monitor it, it just needs to get locked to prevent further edits after murphy sets it straight (again)
Antifish just snagged Blog Liasion
Pumas – look at that list. Two weeks. Two weeks I tell ya and look how far we’ve come and how the organization is coming together.
You have much to be proud about….go ahead……let’s hear a group purrrrrrrrr.
That Dem strategist on Fox obviously hasn’t been to Obama-Wire.com. Ha ha
heh MuchAdo and GoAnderson….I did a flyer for the LGBT community…posted on the action site. Will be looking into the local “rag” here in Austin to run it myself…:)
I just logged on and have been reading all of the posts trying to see what the conversation is this evening.
I was so surprised to see that you can edit in Wiki. Like someone else was saying question everything, the same as never assume anything. I guess we will need to monitor Wiki to make sure it isn’t defined negatively
The wiki history shows that the same persone upnothgirl wrote both of the last two. Murphy I think you should be able to complain to wiki an have her adress blocked or her username blocked.
Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
persone = person.
His name is Steve Murphy from Washington Times?
Dem is Steve Murphy & his job is to make *61 look good in this interview – I like the newspaper guy – first campaign was Goldwater – but all of this is just bullshit – too little too late – where were you all when this campaign started – should have been asking the questions then & we would be celebrating Hillary as the first woman presidential candidate – bah humbug – hope your ratings all fall……………….
#381—whoa–again. This monitoring will be a 24/7. MarylandPA is looking for sentinels. We would have to take shifts. Appreciate MuchAdo big time!!
Who asked about what *61 means? It’s the fact that Oh Bomb Us was born in 61, and that’s the year Roger Marris broke The Babe’s Home Run record.
However, it got an asterisk for the longer season. A poster named Adamonis can’t stand to see Barky’s name, and uses that instead.
Asterisk=Not Quite a Real Win (and unlike home run record, there’s nothing real, talented or good about Barky)
So, it’s actually being too generous to Barky, but it’s better than looking at his name.
His name is Steve Murphy and he’s an idiot. Hannity said 25 to 33% of Hillary supporters were not supporting BO and he says that was when they were leaving the polls. We are united not. Bull!
#379 webfoot
Thanks for the explanation, I was trying to figure what it stood for.
#355marylandpuma I could check wikipedia but I have no idea how to fix it if it’s wrong. My children pointed out to me that anyone can write anything on wikipedia. College professors, high school teachers, etc. don’t allow it to be cited as a source because it is known for being flawed. As they pointed out, anyone can go in and write a definition for something.
Susie1945
Combs started out for Hillary, but I just can’t stand him talking about (you know who) it just makes me sick.
#396 barbara4hill-You’re welcome.
Alright Fellow Pumas. I am checking out.
Spread The Word About:
Obama-wire.com
#326 disenchanted
I think Michelle pictures herself as Cinderella and the Presidency is her Ball. I’m just waiting for the clock to strike midnight and poof they’re back in southside chicago whining about student loans, single parenthood, and rich white folk having all the opportunities they should have had.
No wonder neither of those two are practicing law, they can’t even keep their own facts credible, leave alone a clients’
#386 DawnE
Excellent!
Weeeeeel, I have a feeling murphy’s on it.
Swing shifts anyone? LOL
Better yet, can we get that @($*&)@$_ email addy that’s doing it?
I can’t remember what station but earlier today I heard again that Hilary supporters were still grieving and would soon come around and vote for Obama. I am so tired of everyone thinking we will fall in line. What do these people think? I do not like Obama! I will not vote for him! I am looking forward to turning this all around and working on Hillary’s campaign again! I sent a donation to Hillary also.
# 394 Sisterdo,
Actually, you all have it wrong. *61 refers to his IQ. The asterisk is to bring attention to his being the first person with an IQ this low to run for president. I read this at Wikipedia!
#404 Meant Hillary.
#381 Much-
That is so strange that you can go in there and really mess with that site.
It looks like that can be a full time job just monitoring it.
The levels that they stoop to are frightening.
Has either ever been gainfully employed for long? How did they afford their home?
I heard today Obama wants us all to drive electric cars instead of new drilling.
Dawn E
I got the stickers today…..and your 1 of 18 million on the back. My mom asked me what kind of mess I’d gotten myself into! lol
Anyway….whoopie! If it wasn’t dark I’d be out puttin them on the ve-hick-le.
I wish you had more to send to PUMAs.
Were they really expensive? We need them for PUMAPAC.
Email me please!
Oh, and did I say THANK YOU?
The hybrids are very expensive, who’s be able to afford them, ertainly not middle class working people, although drug dealers and those in the sex trade might…
the #5 that someone added in Wiki is not what this is all about. They are the ones that are playing dirty and uneducated.
Gosh maybe we should have spell/grammer check on here. Only kidding : )
Regarding Wiki
You can be sure whoever is doing it is monitoring this site. That’s how they get there right after we fix it.
Let’s just let it go.
Unless anyone really *wants* swing shifts?
Okay, let’s name the losers now associated with nObma:
Edwards
Kennedy
Richardson
Kerry (up for re-election)
Gore
Pelosi (up for re-election in Nov.)
Reid
Brazile
……
keep the list going
#411 Barbara4Hill
if we had spell check i’d blow the budget in one day, my typing really really really sucks
I do not know much about Wikipedia – can you lock it so no one else can post on it and change the wording, etc?
Swing shifts anyone? LOL
#403 Maryland PUMA on 06.19.08 at 10:04 pm
I’m in, but I can’t guarantee that I will be on this site every day. As for it being a credible resource, I have been told and have read to cite the sources at the bottom. Wiki’s credibility is only as good as those sources. So, right now, I could go to a….mmm…let’s say Cinderella wannabe and add additional info, hey? Thought they had more oversight control than that?
#241 queen81, Exactly.
In these trying times for true Democrats, who now have to be witness to and endure the most bizarre confluence of moronic incompetence and political malpractice (the likes of which we haven’t seen in decades), let’s all take a
moment to reflect on the ways of a true leader…
#407 – It could be a full time job. I’ll try to monitor it as much as possible in the evenings. Unfortunately I can’t do it during the day at work. We’ll just have to do the best we can.
#405 antifish-good one.
#415 Middle age female
I don’t think you an lock it, but I thought you can set it so changes have to be approved, I’m not sure who you get authorization from to set it though
#378 pooh496 on 06.19.08 at 9:55 pm
#326 disenchanted
Lol I would like to see Obama sheepdipped. Winnie the pooh lol. This IS turning in to a real fairy tale and Noname wants to be the King and His wife the Queenbee. It’s Scarey.
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ROFLMAO
We have officially entered the twilight zone.
Next thing you know Michelle my belle would be out with her book titled: My life as Eeyor. (even though that would be an insult to our Eeyor)
#405 Antifish – I like your explanation so much better – sitting here laughing like an idiot again – almost spit out my water……………………………IQ indeed!!!
#388 MuchAdoAboutSomething,
At wikipedia, anyone can edit what’s there and anyone else can see who did it?
I think should change it when we see it and just not post anything about it here. Don’t let them know that they are causing us any trouble
#405 antifish, Ha Ha…
Has anyone noticed that the wikipedia entry for Barack Obama does not provide the [edit]?
#388 MuchAdoAboutSomething,
At wikipedia, anyone can edit what’s there and anyone else can see who did it?
Yes, that’s the intent of wiki.. an information source that anyone can contribute to. but i hve seen some wiki sites where a moderator had to approve the modifications
marylandPUMA…
You are most welcome…email on the way….
If I go to Wiki I will edit if needed. I didn’t realize the Wiki site was a free for all. I agree if we make a big deal about it that it bothers us then they will get enjoyment from harassing us. Just goes to show you who is uneducated and has nothing better to do with their time.
PA4Hill08
The new heading on the Action Site looks AWESOME!
Stupendous work!
MDPUMA
Someone has added to Wiki again.
ALERT! MuchAdo…there is a new #5. I tried to delete it but couldn’t. ACTION NEEDED !
ACTION NEEDED AT WIKI #5
Doesn’t make a lot of difference – it’s still a slop spot as far as I’m concerned – there’s a reason why most educators are against it…………………..
Maybe someone could add to the Wiki that anything posted after #4 was added by a hate site or something.
#424 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 06.19.08 at 10:14 pm
I think it would be good to list here what they try to put on wiki and keep track of it…
It is definitely Obamabots doing it and I think we should all be aware of it.
It’s annoying, but it’s a taken that they’ll stoop as low as they can to win —but we all should be aware of how low they go and make it public that they’re definitely trying to mess with Hillary people – still.
Also is it slander and libel to write the stuff they did on wiki? Even if it is a community type resource – there’s got to be some law about making causing that kind of slanderous mischief?
It’s not like they’re just reporting inaccurate info., this is malicious slander.
I think they’re upset that we didn’t use the proper English word:
UH?!
~beginning to think there are more women with “cajones” than just Hillary ~
Ovaries trump cajones any day…
#5 gone. Thanks to whoever deleted. Do you have to register to edit? Don’t mean to sound stupid with Wiki, just never used it that much.
#367 sisterdo – thanks for the welcome. I’ve followed some other bloggers to the Confluence, NoQuarter, and Alegre’s Corner. I’ve also been visiting some of the sites listed on Just Say No Deal. It so nice to see everyone getting organized and moving forward.
I just looked at Wiki and I do not see the edit anymore.
Cindy McCain managed to both praise & dam MO today & she did it very well – this woman has had practice – watch it ladies and see if you don’ agree……………very smooth – kinda reminded me of Nancy Reagan – she was very good at that too……………………
Ok, I read about moderating wiki sites, it’s not available on english wiki sites yet, german wiki sites are currently testing it.
I am sure the *61’s followers are monitoring this site.
“Someone has added to Wiki again.”
I see its been fixed again. I agree that we should just check often and quietly remove anything offensive. Lets not get off our game.
Have a good night.
Lisa
#22 ShortTermer on 06.19.08 at 6:50 pm
I’d be happy to contribute.
LisaNC444 — yes, obots on the loose.
anyone know their way around wikipedia? email me at murphy@pumapac.org
thanks.
OK, I just spent about 10 minutes going back and forth with them. They then changed everything from Hillary to BHO. I think Murphy will just have to deal with wiki. MURPHY WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!
Does anyone have Geraldine Ferraros contact info?
Regarding wiki–there is a notice of deletion. What is that all about?
Murphy wish I did…I would help.
Google Gerry Ferraro – know she’s a new yorker – info should come up
#401 TrishfromCanada on 06.19.08 at 10:02 pm
#326 disenchanted
I think Michelle pictures herself as Cinderella and the Presidency is her Ball. I’m just waiting for the clock to strike midnight and poof they’re back in southside chicago whining about student loans, single parenthood, and rich white folk having all the opportunities they should have had.
No wonder neither of those two are practicing law, they can’t even keep their own facts credible, leave alone a clients’
————–
Trish
I read somewhere that she had failed her state bar exam.
I truly believe that the crowd of blame America first have strong victim mentality. Listening to Wright or Sharpton for 5 min you understand these people. The sad part is that to allow the black community to be preached this way does nothing but handicap them mentally for life.
Obama had the audacity to call for fathers to take responsibility for their children but he did not show an once of courage to stand up to wright and his hateful sermons.
I think the bots put the notice of deletion up.
anyway that wiki crap is just shenanigans. it’s a loser’s game — trying to stop us with some racist graffitti. please.
I suggest we forget about it for now.
On Wiki it appears that you have to create an account and log on. If that is the case then I would question anything that is on there.
I have gone there for a few things but now I think I would need a more reliable site for definitions
#22 ShortTermer — I’m in..
#34 MamaPuma Lou Dobbs is our best bet to get our name out there. We must tell everyone about PUMA, and what we stand for.
#65 NeverMore I got a letter from BO. I intend to use his post paid envelope to send him a letter telling him what an empty suit I think he is..
Someone to add to your Losers’ List… Caroline Kennedy…
How dare she compare Obama to her Dad, JFK. He must have turned over in his grave..
I live in a small community in PA. Everyone in this County is Republican except my husband and I. I wear my Hillary pin everywhere I go. No one has had the nerve to say one thing to me..
I have wondered for a long time how BO raised all of that money. He has someone or thing very powerful behind him. I wonder if all of that money came from within this Country, or maybe from the Middle East?
He frightens me beyond belief. I truly believe he is out to destroy our way of life. I believe if he is elected, there truly will be a race war in this Country.
On that unhappy note, I wish all my fellow PUMAS a better day tomorrow..
#454 eyes wide shut
I’m with you Murphy, they are only going to have some sort of gratification if they know it is bothering us.
Goes to show their IQ is the same as their leader *61
Hello everyone, I read these posts all day everyday, i comment very little, but I do have a great T-shirt idea. Most everyone here calls Obama, BO, now i do realize they are his initials and it is easier to type, but how about this? We in America have spent years trying to rid ourselves of B.O. and now you want to shower us in it! Little deodorant picture by the slogan. Really tired and a little loopy, so don’t mind me, but everytime I see the initials BO I laugh.
#452 disenchanted – yeah *61 is a hypocrit from the word go – where do these jerks come from? Can’t believe in a country this size that this is the best we can come up with – Hillary, Hillary – save us please…..
Kills me to see Carville standing up for the jerk & now him & Bill Bennett (another upstanding jerk) are going rip Cindy McCain for her comments today regarding MO-probably throw racist in there somewhere
This is about the site. I don’t see where there’s a lot we can do about the bots until the US site follows the lead of Germany.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia
I understand the logic #458, but I don’t have much sympathy…and I am being nice…with a bully!
B4Hill#455 — i think wiki is generally reliable because of the incentive for mischief factor. How many boys with not much of a social life are motivated to disrupt a page about the life cycle of a pitcher plant, or the date of the Battle of Hastings? The vast majority of stuff on there is basically solid in my opinion (though one should also look for verification).
But our entry is different. We KNOW there are a lot of boys (sorry, boys but it’s a documented fact that waaay more boys than girls spend their free time editing wiki pages) in the Obama Movement with lots of free social time.
Take a look at this vidoe from JustSayNoDeal…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpwYu_-2jQw&eurl=http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com/
I love the laugh at the end.
#463—water spew on keyboard. that is just what it needed…again.
ShortTermer My dad lives in Abbottstown and he is an avid Hillary supporter. I have never heard him dislike anyone, but he is really down on Michelle Obama. He says she has an entitlement attitude and that BO is too arrogant. He’s 84 and he doesn’t have a computer so I print all of the articles you all point me to for him.
OK, I’m getting some shut eye. Catch everyone tomorrow. Keep the faith!!!!!
I’m digging into IP addys for the people who changed it. Will let you know via email Murphy.
So, there goes the old Michelle, under the bus. She has now been made over into a new woman. There is now a nice big Obama Barbie to go with the McCain Barbie. And in time for Christmas! That is the Democrats way of fixing her anger problem. It would never occur to them that she may have a right to her attitude. I believe they will get to find out.
Now they are considering that Sexism may be part of her image problem.
#459 michelle47 on 06.19.08 at 10:33 pm
Hello everyone, I read these posts all day everyday, i comment very little, but I do have a great T-shirt idea. Most everyone here calls Obama, BO, now i do realize they are his initials and it is easier to type, but how about this? We in America have spent years trying to rid ourselves of B.O. and now you want to shower us in it! Little deodorant picture by the slogan. Really tired and a little loopy, so don’t mind me, but everytime I see the initials BO I laugh.
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LOL>
Whenever I see BO…I think of Bowl Obstruction.
Maryland PUMA–heads up. I may be listed there when recently trying to fix/delete. Just a FYI.
#452 disenchanted.
You really have something there. How is it that two Harvard educated lawyers never really practiced law? I’ve seen a report on one case that Barack litigated (and lost). Nothing on Michelle. That is just so weird. Perhaps there’s stuff out there I’ve missed though.
Murphy,
Here’s info on preventing wiki spam – hope it helps!
wiki – preventing changes
http://chongqed.org/prevent_spam.html
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And here’s a good article, I think someone poste dearlier, but it’s worth reading so I thought I’d list it again:
Delegate’s reversal stuns party
Wisconsin Democrat now publicly supports McCain
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=762052
murphy, my girlfriend is familiar with wiki and she says its jsut gonna be a back and forth thing. effectively we would have to have a “watcher” so to speak to keep combatting…that’s the bad thing about wiki
Thanks for your lookout and guard duty MuchoAdo—we need to give this PUMA a big growl or purr. Have a good one!
“But our entry is different. We KNOW there are a lot of boys (sorry, boys but it’s a documented fact that waaay more boys than girls spend their free time editing wiki pages) in the Obama Movement with lots of free social time”
can’t leave this one alone….that’s because no SMART women will go out with BO supporting men, so therefore, the lots of free social time…
Maryland PUMA – I’ll be listed there as well. OK, I am going now. Maryland, I’ll email you my user name on Wiki
Hello Everyone, if you haven’t done so please sign the petition – http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House
Does anyone remember the tshirts that Chelsea was working on? For the contest.
thanks bron!
Hey, Murphy I want to thank you for all that you are doing and all of the great supporter’s too!!!ALL OF YOU ARE THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I found this You tube video “What’s up” in the search and then click the second video…even though it says 25 years it is close enough to Hillary’s 35 years. And, I think it addresses the Democratic Party very well……Hope everyone and you Murphy check it out…Listen to the words “Still trying to get up that great big hill of hopes” Thanks……………..:)
#459 – LOL – When I see BO I think body odor – sorry – first reaction but when I see MO – sorry again, I think of the 3 stooges – larry, curly & mo – and this is because my brother loved those idiots when he was a kid – yuk yuk yuk – probably still does
#469 disenchanted, that’s a great one too, I do get a knot in my stomach everytime I see him and hear him speak.
Found this info on the wiki site…
Didn’t have time to read all the fine print, but there is a long list of banned users and reasons for their ban if anyone wants to take a look and get an idea if we can trace who’s tampering with PUMA’s wiki entry and get them banned.
Also criteria for speedy deletion info, several reasons for sp. deletions, 2 listed below.
Wiki Criteria for Speedy deletion
“Pure vandalism. This includes blatant and obvious misinformation, and redirects created by cleanup from page-move vandalism”
Banned user. Pages created by banned users in violation of their ban, with no substantial edits by others
Wikipedia:List of banned users
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_banned_users
OMG -I have the news on (MSNBC) -do these people have a clue? What are their credentials? I seldom watched mainstream media before this campaign -I feel better about my choice every minute! No wonder they “swoon” over *61! Time to turn this crap off -and that’s being polite.
#471
That is interesting that they both went to Harvard and never practiced law. Have they passed the bar ?
You could probably check that out. Would be interesting to know the reason. I am sure there are many facts that have not been brought to the surface yet.
#484 JGoldman1 on 06.19.08 at 10:44 pm
Time to turn this crap off -and that’s being polite.
Yep! Be kind to yourself and don’t listen to the play and script. I don’t miss my DirectTV!
#485 Barbara4Hill
I believe Barack practiced for about a year, Michelle – I have no idea
Its up to us to vet these two. Who knows what we might stumble on to. We seem to have a lot of very innovative people on this site.
JGoldman1 I just went to MSNBC just to see what was being said and lasted all of 30 seconds. I can’t believe I used to watch it every night.
I keep checking I wish noquarter would put up the Cavuto video.
Question:
I’m still struggling with the idea of voting for McCain. I am now considering, perhaps, voting for Nader instead as a protest vote. If he gets on the VA ballot.
I’m sorry, but the thought of McCain pushing to renew Bush’s tax breaks for the rich, his screwball health care plans, and many other things just make it hard for me to support him. I liked McCain 10 years ago, but he’s gone too far off course for me.
So, can someone tell me, is this in keeping with PUMA’s goals, or is supporting McCain essential? I’m really struggling here. I am an ardent Hillary supporter and cannot see myself supporting Obama at any point. But neither can I see myself supporting McCain. I know that puts me at odds with many here, but I’m just being honest.
I’ll keep thinking about it…lots of time between now and November. The one thing that might push me over that line is if the DNC/DP denies Hillary’s delegates the chance to vote for her at the DP convention. That’s an honor she has won, she deserves, and history expects. If they take that away, then anything goes as far as I’m concerned. Even voting for McCain.
I think body odor for BO. You think parents would pay more attention when choosing a name for their new born. I am not knocking them but it is common sense so the child does not have to deal with insults through school years because of their initials.
#460 Susie1945 on 06.19.08 at 10:33 pm
#452 disenchanted – yeah *61 is a hypocrit from the word go – where do these jerks come from? Can’t believe in a country this size that this is the best we can come up with – Hillary, Hillary – save us please…..
Kills me to see Carville standing up for the jerk & now him & Bill Bennett (another upstanding jerk) are going rip Cindy McCain for her comments today regarding MO-probably throw racist in there somewhere
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Susie
Your point is exactly why people don’t like politicians in general. Sadly they all lie. But I have never seen anyone as audaciously hypocritical and pathologically passive aggressive. If waffles was Pinocchio we could all hang our wet clothes on his nose and we would still have room to hang his balls.
I like Lou Dobbs. I know he has his detractors -but he seems pretty square.
The rest of it is garbage!
Hi everyone whats up
I thought we were to do what we felt comfortable with and if it means voting for McCain, writing in Hillary if we can do that or just plain staying home on Nov 5th was permitted.
490 Bron on 06.19.08 at 10:52 pm Question:
I’m still struggling with the idea of voting for McCain.
Here is my advice. Go to JohnMcCain.com. Do your homework regarding his policies. I think many of your questions will be answered there. If not, email them or we will try and help here. Frustration is good energy. Channel it in that direction.
#488 nightsky,
Exactly. We need to create a team of investigators. Since the internet really only goes back to the mid-nineties (and is very incomplete there), this will take some good old fashioned library research as well. Surely, we can do a better job than the MSM has. We all need to brainstorm what should be researched and come up with a list. Then we can assign individuals to each area of concern.
Alright body odor it is, that is how I will refer to him from now on.
well i see the page in wiki has been set for speedy deletion. Like I said, all that has to happen is that someone contacts wikipedia, have the page be unable to be edited (it is possible) and assign someone to add to the page, and then the problem is solved.
shewolf,
Hey there!
#484 JGoldman1 – That would be Olbermann’s Countdown you’re watching. I used to love that show. Then Keith took a dive off the deep end. This is a part of a letter I sent to him in late February or early March:
You, sir, have failed to live up to your own standards of decency and fairness, those you so proudly wore as a badge of honor back when you used to uncover others’ twisting of information rather than twist the information yourself.
Hey guys – saw this quote by MaryEllen over on Uppity Woman’s site – I thought it was funny:
‘Most of the news today was about the re-packaging of Barack and Michelle. They call it “re-introducing” Barack to the American public. It’s more like covering up his lies and deceit. I don’t care how much frosting you put over a pile of shit, it ain’t gonna taste like a cake.’
#490
Bron–one more thing. Barack is not an option. Period. That is my view, but …it just isn’t.
#495 Barbara4Hill on 06.19.08 at 10:55 pm
Has someone here posted something claiming otherwise? If so, who and or what listing….?
I am concerned if I do not vote then that is one less vote for McCain and Bo could get in. Then again do I really want to vote for McCain ??? I have NEVER felt this way during a presidential election.
But to be honest I have lost faith in our voting system just looking back at 2000 and how that was run. We also have the electorial college voting for us—-right ?
Well the way i look at it i would not want BHO in the White House for 4 minutes let alone 4 years. He would do more harm than Mccain so if Hillary dosn’t make it i will vote for Mccain at least he’s a Patriot.
once more before i got to bed, please sign the petition.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House
Bron, You don’t have to vote for McCain. Do whatever you want. It is your right and your vote. Many are supporting McCain because they think he is second to Hillary in the list of viable candidates -where *61 is not even on the list. Most in the media have miscalculated the minds of many voters in this regard thinking that *61 is the better replacement for Hillary. Some have also argued that McCain winning will bring the Dems and *61 down = united front. Hillary can run in 2012 if all else fails.
Best,
JGoldman1
Bron
I’m weighed in on this a bit so here’s my two cents. what unites us all here is the belief that Hillary was mistreated and the nomination unfairly denied her. we also tend to think that Obama is not the right person to run this country. who you vote for in nov, is none of my business and up to you to decide.
I played with the idea of going third party but in the end i fear it would split and BO might win. for me personally, I can deal with john mccain as our president. I feel at ease with my decision to vote for him also as a form of protest against the DNC. if BO wins, they will think that everything they did was ok. you need to search your own conscience, it’s your vote, it’s your decision and i don’t think anyone on this group would dare try to take that away from you.
#471 antifish on 06.19.08 at 10:40 pm
#452 disenchanted.
You really have something there. How is it that two Harvard educated lawyers never really practiced law? I’ve seen a report on one case that Barack litigated (and lost). Nothing on Michelle. That is just so weird. Perhaps there’s stuff out there I’ve missed though.
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antifish
You have the right impression. I have read the exact point you tried to make. I will try to “fish” that article and get it to you faster than an “ant” would my friend.
Goodnight everyone
stay strong
#483 BrooklynNY on 06.19.08 at 10:43 pm
Someone here posted earlier they were concerned because Wiki tracks user’s IP addresses. This is why – so they can track who is making changes and ban vandals.
Lots of sites log your IP address, they just don’t all tell you. It’s really nothing to be concerned about. But you can take steps to hide your IP address. I won’t go into it here, but, alas, the bad guys already know about it. I’m just not gonna help any vandals here by detailing it.
Anyway…it will be a battle to maintain the wiki given the nature of the Obamatons – they are the worst crowd I’ve run across in a long time. If the Exalted One does not reign them in, it will backlash on him at some point, I’m sure. Just does not tie in to well with his ‘peace and unity’ message.
If you have 2 evils then you check to see what one is the least of the 2 evils. Then vote and for me the least of the 2 evils is Mccain even though i want my Hillary and i will never give up on her.
Antifish I have already started digging, but am always open to new direction. I’m just starting at now and tracing back. Its a lot of info. One google leads to another and another and so on. They really have a lot of sleazy friends.
Still trying to figure out this damned computer, hoping to be of more use when I do. You PUMAS really do rock! I would very much like to be of more help, I am trying to learn the internet and when I do watch out BODY ODOR, I am going to investigate the HELL out of you.
#501 Brian,
I too, was a huge KO fan before this primary. He so disappointed me! It seems so many people have lately……
I’ve written him (and his bosses) several scathing letters about his unabashed shilling for Body Odor.
#490 bron-PUMAs are about respect. We respect each other’s decisions in regard to their vote in November. A PUMA will never tell another PUMA how to vote nor is it a requirement for being a PUMA. If you read old posts you will find dialogue on this topic. PUMAs are all about fixing the broken system that used to be a democracy. PUMAs are about each vote counting and the right to have a president who is elected, not selected. The list could go on; the key, in my opinion of the PUMAs is that we respect each other. Your fundamental right as a U.S. citizen is the right to vote, in private, for the person of your choice. We have potentially had that right taken away from us by the DNC when they selected *61. We are fighting to get that right back.
Re: 501 Knoxville Puma on 06.19.08 at 10:58 pm
This was the first time I have seen the show (call me sheltered) -normally I’m not for calling names and am very much to each his own -but there is an exception to some things. This guy is an idiot. I liked your reply to him. Very fitting.
#504
No, I have not seen anything on here other than we are not voting for #61. I was just commenting back to #490
Sorry if I didn’t make sense.
Bron,
I agree with Queen81 and the others above. What you do is your decision. Only you can make that decision. Give it careful thought – think it out for yourself like and do what you’re comfortable with. It’s not right for us or anyone else to try to influence your decision.
Thanks Murphy for helping us unite. You’ve done a great job. As well as Maryland PUMA. Thanks
#484 JGoldman1 on 06.19.08 at 10:44 pm
Yea, I took MSNBC off my channel list a few months back – they are the worst. Their air time should count as a contribution to the Obama campaign. Even the news caster (so-called) were blatantly biased. And Keith Olbermann – I cannot say it in polite language. He was so offensive – even worse than Chris Mathews.
I think *61 said that his records were lost – convenient isn’t it. Also saw an article someplace that explained how he came to be named Editor of the Harvard Law Review & didn’t publish a dam thing during that time – also no big law firms wanted him so he went back to chicago & got his job doing community service at $13000 a year – he never practiced law & he certainly never taught it like he claims – he was some kind of a pissant assistant – puffed up his resume – course it didn’t get very big cuz there wasn’t much there to begin with – but he sure came out of all this with a lot of money………………………they always say – follow the money – it will lead you where you want to go
#471
That is interesting that they both went to Harvard and never practiced law. Have they passed the bar ?
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Obama did practice law. He defended Revko in a case where Revko was sued by the city (state?) for renting appts. without heat to poor people. Not exactly a stellar legal career, but he did pass the bar.
Don’t know about Michelle.
I also think we need to keep vigilent for trolls and moles. Some trolls I think are morphing into moles. Be careful. They’re tricky and sly. If you’ve been to the McCain site you can recognize them in a flash. They all follow the same pattern….They’re just mutating to be a little trickier and harder to detect and remove. Be careful.
#516 Webfoot
Thank you. You typed what I felt the PUMA stands for. I think I am just punchy at this time of night. You said it well and that is the way we should feel.
I want Hillary on the ticket for Nov 5 and I will be terribly disappointed if she isn’t running in 08. We have elected Hillary and I don’t know how the hell bo got selected
#513 nightsky,
I’ve run across the same thing. I love searching the internet and have spent months digging up dirt on Body Odor long before the MSM did. Problem is, we need to be organized in our searches. I just have a feeling that library searches will yield some pertinent information that isn’t on the internet. I’m already looking into some things….
#523 BrooklynNY – we’re PUMAS – Murphy gives us treats………………………………….
#517 JGoldman1, In fairness to Keith, he wasn’t always such a d*ck. Then he got full of himself and, I think I’m using this expression right, drank the kool-aid. I must have written a half dozen angry messages to him because watching him in the 8pm hour had been my routine and I couldn’t stand to watch 5 minutes of him any longer. It really bothered me. On the other hand, submitting comments to his ‘thenewshole” thing was the first time I ever blogged. So, in a sense, I have Keith to thank for starting me on the journey that brought me here.
Susie
His so called community work was to get people to register to vote. He did not mentor or made a difference in anyones life as far as I read.
he was so called an agitator.
Susie1945,
I think if you go back and work for the community after law school, you get some degree of debt forgiveness on your loans. I recall reading about that sometime. This may have been why *61 did what he did or at least part of it.
Best,
JGoldman1
#493 JGoldman1 on 06.19.08 at 10:54 pm
I like Lou Dobbs. I know he has his detractors -but he seems pretty square.
The rest of it is garbage!
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Lou Dobbs is my main news show now. He carries on a bit too much now and then, but his show covers stories everyone else ignores and his show was, by far, the most neutral in it’s primary coverage.
Folks, I have the *users* IP address. Wiki doesn’t ‘hide’ it as well as they *think* they do.
The article is GONE for right now. No more Puma PAC on Wiki.
They wiped it while I was in digging around. This person had been repeatedly warned about vandalism and there were ‘bots’ in there undoing what she did.
Bron
I think we are all caught between the rock and a very hard place.
My first personal choice is still trying to convince Hillary to run as an independent, and under no circumstances to be his VP. If that fails, then anything goes, but NEVER Obama.
#514
I think as the election ohhhhhhhhhhhh I mean the selection process for president goes on a lot of mud is going to fly and we will learn more and more about bo.
What I know now is far too much negative.
#514 Michelle47,
If I can help, please let me know.
#530 & #531 – Well, there ya go – I will research this & see what I can find out – both BO & MO – jeez – sounds like the name of a bad rock group ——
#497 Jeremy on 06.19.08 at 10:56 pm
Jeremy, thanks, but I’m familiar with his policies – that’s the problem!
But I’ll try to keep an open mind and thanks for the reply!
Correction, Michelle #515
I’m off to bed everyone…..me paws hurt!
Have a great night and be nice to each other.
Hugs
MarylandPUMA
Murphy – get some sleep….
#533
My exact thoughts. I hope that Hillary will run as Independent but I am concerned about her party loyality although they have been anything but loyal to her. I can not vote for bo. He really concerns in too many ways to list on here.
Bron, I saw a few minutes of Chris Mathews a few days ago. Never Again! Wow. I posted on here about it. I can’t express it or explain it again -don’t want to relive it! ~JGoldman1
#502 Knoxville Puma on 06.19.08 at 10:58 pm
Great letter! You captured it perfectly!
An opening?
http://www.thenextright.com/patrick-ruffini/how-oil-drilling-galvanizes-the-right
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/06/19/offshore-oil-drilling-debate-could-hurt-obama.html
Thoughts, anyone?
#537 Bron
What issues in particular concern you? (not trying to change your mind at all, just happy to engage and help with your decision)
#504 Jeremy on 06.19.08 at 10:58 pm
#490
Bron–one more thing. Barack is not an option. Period. That is my view, but …it just isn’t.
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On this we agree!
Thanks!
G’nite Maryland Puma – great work…………….much appreciated………
#525 BrooklynNY
trolls on here ? Well I guess they could pose as Hillary supporters and then turn into bo followers trying to convert or offering koolaid
#507 sandipuma on 06.19.08 at 10:59 pm
at least he’s a Patriot.
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This I agree with. It’s his strongest suit, to me.
#532 Maryland PUMA,
May I be the first to say, “THAT’S SO AWESOME!” Just when I thought I was about to fall over with exhaustion, I see how scared they are of us and of everything we’re doing, and it makes me keep on going.
They know we’re here. And they know we’re making a difference. RIGHT ON!
#525 antifish on 06.19.08 at 11:09 pm; #513 nightsky on 06.19.08 at 11:02 pm
Another area that’s I think needs to be explored is what dubious dealings, potential scandals, nefarious behavior, moral/psychological/financial weaknesses the people falling into line behind him might have. Dodd, D-CT, came out in support of BO almost immediately after pulling out of the primary. Now, it turns up Dodd is involved in sweetheart mortgage deals with Countywide. He had to resign from some committee because of it. It’s up to Nancy Pelosi (as Speaker of the House) to start an investigation into Countrywide. Could it be she offered Dodd protection from investigation, etc., if he supported BO. And if so, what about the others? The easy ones you can just flatter or offer something easy that they want; the smarter, more independent ones you have to be a little more ingenious and creative…
537 Bron on 06.19.08 at 11:16 pm
But I’ll try to keep an open mind
That’s all any of us can do. Give assistance when we can, do our homework/research, and make that decision in November confident that we did what was right. Have a good one!
#509 JGoldman1 on 06.19.08 at 11:00 pm
Thanks! Very helpful. This gives me something to chew on!
#538antifish, You bet I need help, I have written some brilliant e-mails to all the people you guys list daily, and it is sad to say, but I lost every last one of them and I don’t even know what wikipedia is. But I am a wholehearted Hillary supporter, still have all my signs, bumper stickers etc…. And believe you me I talk about her daily, and any sane person would never want to go toe to toe with me about her.
Shorttermer, I’m glad to contribute some $$ too. Will check with y’all tomorrow and see what it’s for…guerillas, gorillas? Whatever–as long as it helps tip the scale.
#523 Susie,
That’s what I’ve gathered too. His first full time job started in 2005, when he joined the US Senate. It’s funny, despite the fact that he planned to run for president, he still couldn’t bring himself to accomplish anything there either. The portrait that emerges of him is one of a shiftless, arrogant, political parasite.
Loved reading today’s comments and ideas. Happy to see so many are donating to retire Hillary’s campaign debt. Wouldn’t it be great if she didn’t have to take any money from Obama to honor her financial obligations to her vendors? Let’s keep it up! All the money from HRC’s site goes only to her debt, not the DNC or the presumptuous (oops, did I mean, presumptive) nominee.
Speaking of honor, or lack thereof, I just posted this on aol.com regarding BO’s reneging on his pledge to use public funds for his campaign if the Republican nominee did:
rosecityfriend 10:56:49 PM Jun 19 2008
Report This! Wow. One of the few specific promises Obama’s made, and he’s already throwing it under the bus, along with his watering down of when he’d bring the troops home from Iraq (now giving a more nuanced position that sounds an awful lot like Hillary Clinton’s). Given his slim resume, his being above “politics as usual” was his main qualification for the Presidency. I guess his flip-flopping is “change we can believe in”?
On a completely different topic, I want to point out that snail mail sent to Congressional offices is SLOW. It has to go somewhere to be checked out to make sure there’s no anthrax or whatever inside the envelopes after that terrorist scare a few years ago. However, I’m guessing postcards might ease through quickly? Just a thought for those of us wanting to send Hillary thank you notes and other words of encouragement. Also, I’ve been told by her own campaign people that it’s much easier and faster for her campaign staff (she’s not allowed to use government staff for campaign issues) to process donations sent online through hillaryclinton.com than it is for checks mailed in, for those of us who are comfortable donating online.
Took a look at the articles on OIL – same old, same old – was much more interested in the comment written by a guy name Tim on the us news site – ve.r.r.r.y interesting-actually makes the brain cells start working & at this time of night, they’re about done…………..
#510 queen81 on 06.19.08 at 11:01 pm
More good food for thought. Thanks. I’m beginning to get the drift. I agree wholeheartedly that Hillary was unfairly treated and denied the nomination through games and tricks and an incredibly warped process.
Thanks a lot for the helpful words. I’m going to continue to read and think and work through it.
I HATE BO!
sorry, just need to get that off my back.
I cannot believe he flip-flopped on public finance. Well actually maybe I could believe it.
#553 michelle47,
Email me anytime with anything you need help doing. I’ve worked with computers for years and will be glad to teach you anything I can.
antifishpuma@gmail.com
Do any of your bloggers find it amusing that every time we post a comment, other bloggers (Obama supporters) claim that 95% of us are Republicans in sheep’s clothing and the other 5% of us are morons, and that we are not real? Makes me LOL!
They just don’t believe there are so many of us.
I never post anything without inviting bloggers to come and join us at PUMA PAC
Denial of your foes existence is the first error losers make.
Murphy, If websites keep track of peoples IP address, then could we find the mole by perhaps comparing them somehow to those of our members? It had to be an inside job, it was tampered with as soon as Murphy said it was up!
I cant stand that we have to watch what we say and do on our own site. What are you so afraid of? We have told you time and again that we will never support BO for President.
Just get off our site and go home to BO, leave us alone.
Antifish – well I’m going to start researching and see what I can find – will start tomorrow – #558 brain cells tired – haven’t written any papers for a looooong time but will see what I can do…………………..
Is this an action item? Crap – will email MarylandPuma & have her or Murphy okay it – don’t think its been assigned to anyone……………….
Antifish will do, Thanks and good night all!
I second…let’s not get off of our game. The major points and the actions should be our mainstay right now. The objective is to stir the pot to get attention and cause ‘every day voters” (meaning the mainstay of our society to
STOP AND THINK….
We want large numbers to get off this magic carpet ride and
STOP AND THINK.
If we stop the train for just a moment, intelligent people of all socio-economic status will…
STOP AND THINK
If we get that far we are in the driver’s seat.
Stepping off the soap box.
#560 Kiki17
Bo flip flops on everything he does, throws anything and everything under the bus and his entire speech with out the teleprompter is Uhhhhhhhhhhhh. A work of art for a President. I don’t think he went into law because he devoloped this plan to be selected president. Think about it.
Hot off the press….new video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVSAPNmrvlk
#517 webfoot on 06.19.08 at 11:04 pm
Thanks, webfoot, well said! I’m greatly heartened by the replies to my post. I agree with everything you said. It is hard to believe the Democratic Party could have screwed this up this badly. But there it is.
Hello, PUMAs. Those of you in the swing states, please help us with identifying newspaper publication in your state where we could place an ad in. I mentioned in my previous post that it would be great if you could call your local or state newspaper to find out the rate/pricing and I will compile a list. Afterwards, we can all decide which one will give us the most bang for the buck.
send info to all4mygirl at gmail. thanks!
A VERY BIG THANK YOU TO TRISH FROM CANADA.
hugs all around to Trish.
560 Kiki17 on 06.19.08 at 11:29 pm
“I cannot believe he flipflopped on public finance.”
Kiki17–Did you catch the CNN debate hosted by Campbell Brown back in late fall? This is the first thing that came to mind when I read your post. I got the visual of Hillary in my head when Campbell asked her a “similar type of question”…and Hillary replied…
“Campbell!….loooooooooonnnnng pauuuuse….Really!”
Kiki17–he scares me on so many things..finance is even scarier.
#567, 100# right!
#568, i will pass it along!
#548 Barbara4Hill on 06.19.08 at 11:21 pm
If you feel yourself getting drawn in discussions that create wedges….Start pitting people with different ideas regarding their positions, then it’s probably a case of troll/mole. If you feel subtle doubts are being planted in your mind, or feel you’re being gently swayed to consider something that just doesn’t feel right, wasn’t even on the plate,….if you feel sidetracked from doing what we’re all here to do then it might be time to think carefully about what’s causing it. A great way to destroy a movement is to get inside, make friends with the members and slowly and gently sow internal discord/doubt and in-fighting…Just something to keep in mind.
Well i still say we need a lot more media and our local news stations too. I called channel 3 here in Vegas and they hadn’t heard of any of us. But after talking to one guy for awhile he sounded interested and he said he would like to get together with me. I hope he is serious. Now we are having a meeting this saturday at 1 P M about going to Denver plus issues here in Vegas. I will call him tomorrow and try to get him to come and do a story . All he can say is no right. What ya got to lose.
#520 BrooklynNY on 06.19.08 at 11:05 pm
Thanks! I appreciate your kind words.
Thanks again to all of you for sharing your thoughts with me. It’s a difficult time and hard to figure, so I appreciate your comments very much.
#574 BrooklynNY
I was just asking a question. Nothing else
N. Lee 568 — nice work — watch it everyone if you havent.
sandipuma — exactly! let us know how it turns out.
I just call and talk and don’t be shy. Heck they don’t know mw if they saw me on the street. I will try channel 8 and 13 tomorrow morning.
I have seen on online newpapers that the ones I have seen had prices for their ads listed.
I sure will let you know
i get so excited on these pain pills lol i better take one before i call and i will wow them over
I can’t seem to copy and paste tonight. ShortTermer started a loser’s list. See#285 for list.
I would like to add
Oprah
Caroline Kennedy
I sorta feel sad adding Caroline Kennedy. I remember watching her on tv on the day of her father’s funeral. We were given the day off from school.
#523 Susie1945 on 06.19.08 at 11:07 pm
Are you sure? I have read in several different places about his work at a Chicago law firm, in the Chicago Tribune, I think. Adn about him defending Revko in court. He’d have to be a practicing attorney to do that, right?
Not defending him, just wondering what the real facts are.
#571 murphy
awww shucks, i’m speechless, lol wow people would pay to see that, how’s that for a fundraiser
#562 TerryDo,
Yes, indeed, they are in total denial that large groups of people exist that do not worship the Obamessiah!
N.Lee
Great Video!
Obama flip-flopped on public finance, of course now that he coffers flaunts over 150 million dollars, he does not need the paltry 85 Million offered by the government.
Someone needs to follow the money, find out exactly where the money is coming from and how it is being funneled into legitimate money outlets. I do not for one minute believe most of the money is being donated by ordinary working people.
I still believe that George Soros is Obama’s (puppet) master. The power (Soros) behind the facade (Obama)
I intuit corruption big time..
BrooklynNY
THe media says we ( women ) and I know there are men also because my husband campaigned for Hillary along with me, anyway the media says we are bitter Hillary supporters. I have gone over the meter if you can measure bitterness. Women are not treated fairly and I can become hot headed on this issue.
Hillary should be running as our nominee right now and she isn’t because bo was selected over Hillary. I have written many letters because I feel I have to do my part on trying to make this right, if I don’t then shame on me and I do not have a right to complain. I will do everything in my power to get Hillary on that ticket in Nov and I will not be satisified until then.
#529 Knoxville Puma on 06.19.08 at 11:10 pm
Yes, I used to like his show, too, before he went insane.
Hi antifish
did you here that Salom International is going to Protest Obama in Miami on 6-21-08
We are all in this together and we all have to decide but i will tell you that after mentioning Noname on aol and losing my account after having them for 12 years sure tells me something. We need to stop NoName before we lose our freedom of speech. You can’t take that away from me as i love to talk. I say it like it is.Well i try to say it with some digity and class.
Marylandpuma
RE: WRITTEN VERIFICATION OF CONVENTION ROLL CALL
Email just forwarded.
Thanks
Voting- many posts tonight. My two cents- for what it’s worth- this year, for the first time in my life I am voting for the less of two evils (if HRC is not on the ticket).
I am no longer supporting a party that holds its’ constituents hostage, just assuming we will fall in line because we have no where to go.
My message this year is I have had enough, I am voting McCain, hopefully in 4 years I can vote for Hillary but in the meantime, the DNC will get a complete make over and stand for our principals again.
Until then, rain McCain
During the MSNBC 9:00 program the Republican said the flip-flop was not strong enough of a term for what OB did. A new word was coined…Obanination.
I have the E-Mail from them but don`t know how to send so you can read it help!
#564 susie 1945,
Agree, it probably needs to be an action item.
#565 Michelle,
Goodnight. Look forward to hearing from you.
#583 Bron – well, that’s what I’m going to try & find out – the jerk is a pathetic liar – so will have to dig deep – haven’t done anything this involved for a very long time but am sure those skills will come back – isn’t that kinda like riding a bike? Also, there are web sites galore – take those with a grain of salt – also wiki – I’m sure no bots have been in there to change anything – hah………just the facts, mam, just the facts…………..
Can ya all tell I watched alot of old, old tv shows – play a hell of a game of trivial pursuit – head is full of stuff- need to get rid of some so I can intake new – only so much room in there……………………..
I don’t believe in cussing that will get you know where in life and you can never get your point accross . But you can by using honey .
#290 and #279..it has been suggested that we do ads in large newspapers like the NYT, but all that needs money. Is there a cheaper way to do this ? Could we purchase an e-mail list ?
I am really clueless when it comes to this stuff, but I am in agreement that we need to educate and spread the word.
I was responding to # 587 TerryDo about BO’s flip-flop on campaign financing. Obamination.
#531 JGoldman1 on 06.19.08 at 11:13 pm
I think you’re right. And, it’s good experience for someone thinking about being a politician some day. My personal opinion (though he says differently) is that he had a political career in mind from the start. Everything points to it.
If you look at his history, he is as ruthless a politico as they come. Which is why it really irked me when they assailed Hillary with that “do anything to win” crap. That was Obama from the word go. His whole career has been that of someone doing whatever it took to get elected.
#592alohapuma-are you going to post the written verification of the roll call here?
Help,Help,Help
Its not being clueless. If we don’t have money then write your storey to one of the news paper columnists at the paper . Invite him/her to come in and see what we are all about.
I love this discussion. I think if we “hone” a message right now, we will be heard.
Point: Devoted democrates
Point: The process was bastardized by elite thugs.
Point: We are usually in the mainstream, but this time we are not falling in line, we are taking a stand.
Point: We love Hillary and believe she is the best choice for America moving forward, but we are taking a stand for much more that Hillary Clinton. We are standing for the future of America – the system our forefathers created and we hold dear.
My Irish is up. Sorry…but I feel we need to focus on points and hammer them home in every possible way. The general public will hear the points, not the discussion.
#590 shewolf,
No, I didn’t hear that. That’s great news. I think the Obama MSM is overplaying his poll numbers in Florida. The demographics there just aren’t favorable to him versus McCain. Propaganda.
Sheesh- leave for a few hours and you miss a lot.
I’ll happily take a turn checking in on the Wiki stuff. I noticed it a while back, think that was my first post here… I came across the Wiki entry when looking for the actual group.
Re: papers, I agree it’s good to have as many as we can checking their local areas. There are a lot around here, plus I’ll check my ones back home in MA and such. When we pull together a list, we can perhaps divvy up the areas that have not been covered and research those. Like, I’m guessing perhaps we don’t have a huge North Dakota contingent
Research is my “thing”… yep, I even was a librarian for a bit … so feel free to shoot any random queries my way. I like a challenge!
I posted a couple links in a prev. post, but there is a ton of info out there now because of all the campaign finance restrictions. A lot of details on who is really giving the money. He is such a liar. Well creative user of selective truth perhaps. He totally takes money from special interests. He’s just smart enough to make it a little less than obvious, and to make such a huff about what anyone else might be doing that no one will look at him. GRR
If no one is already doing this… I’ve started a list from the FEC records of the different folks BO has gotten money from.
Now that dosn’t cost a red cent and if we write enough of them we may get some results and you usually have 2 or 3 columnists to choose from just write them all and hope one grabs it.
#534 Your northern neighbour on 06.19.08 at 11:14 pm
Thanks! I truly wish she’d run as an independent, but I don’t think she will.
NOBAMA — on that we all agree!
Nite PUMAs – got to get an early start tomorrow – talk to you then………………………………….
#603shewolf-if you are trying to post the email here just highlight the text, hit the ctrl key and the letter “c” key. Then come back here, go to the comments section and hit the ctrl key and the letter “v”
Hi Hillary Family,
I just wanted to share this clip with you. I hope you’ll enjoy it.
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/play.shtml?mea=227156
BD
#542 JGoldman1 on 06.19.08 at 11:17 pm
Ha ha, I hear you! And understand! He’s a trip.
Too bad, there are almost no good shows left covering politics. Even Lou Dobbs isn’t that good at it. A real shame.
Thats a good idea 58states1. I was watching Hannity and Clomes and they had Pat Buchanon on there and he mentioned the words now that Hillary has dropped out. I wanted to pull his hair out by the roots.
do we have any pumas in the chicago area? or friends or family who have been there for a while? seems those in the area would have a lot of inside info that we don’t. my parents, the republicans, were anti guliani because being from new york and the fact that my father worked with him for years. they new all his little secrets and what he was about. we need someone who’s been around chicago for a while.
#609 Bron
I really wish Hillary runs as an Independent but I also don’t think she will. I really think Hillary is loyal to the Democratic Party. I would blow them out of the water if she did run Independent though.
I hope we can turn this around and have her run in Nov. I get so frustrated thinking we may not have her as our President.
Nobama for myself and my husband. My husband keeps telling me not to loose faith that this might be able to be turned around. I hope so.
#604 sandipuma on 06.19.08 at 11:54 pm
Free media coverage is the best. Create a media event….The Kool-Aid deal is a great example. Ed Rendell (PA) mentioned during an interview on FOX today that a group of Hillary supporters gave him packets of Kool-Aid at an event he participated in to support BO. He even said in the interview, “They think I drank the Kool-Aid.”
Celebrities do it all the time….I don’t mean to suggest we come up with crazy schemes, but sensible ways to give them newsworthy stories to report on.
The get-well cards to politicians, etc., the 1000 reasons emails…..once any of these projects has reached a point where it doesn’t just look like a isolated few people are involved, but shows it’s become a large, organized, concerted effort it’s newsworthy, but the media has to know about it.
Just imagine how great it would if Nancy Pelosi and Dean were asked in their next interviews about the get-well cards or the Kool-Aid or the fake money. Plus, it makes a good news story. It’s funny and entertaining.
The kind of thing the media loves.
I wish we could get a hold of Jack Nicholsen he would help us out as he adores Hillary
#609 Sorry a typo I meant It would blow them out of the water. The midnight hour is starting to show.
#607 58states1,
That’s a great project. I’ve snooped around on the FEC site and noticed that he gets an awful lot of donations from the employees of companies based in Chicago. There were so many $2300 donations, that it caught my attention. These are the kinds of things we need to focus on and bring to light. It’s intensive and very boring work, but it could be very useful in exposing his surreptitious fund raising. We need to move beyond emailing the DNC and superdelegates and get to fighting the Obama campaign.
#618 sandipuma
Or get Ricky Martin to do a fundraising concert for her!
Your absolutely right BrooklynNY
Hey 58Statesplus1, gotta shout-out to the MA ladies and gents.
Planning informal, local Puma PACk get-togethers for the States’ pages so Pumas can meet up in their cities once or twice a month. This will be a job for the pacmods to organize locally (no, you have NOT been forgotten) but we’ll all do it at the same time so we can check back in after or even live-blog from various spots.
So, I’m thinking first Sunday of the month, 5-8pm, at the most friendly, inclusive watering hole in your town. Inaugural Lion’s Share will be Sunday, July 6th, 5-8pm local time.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080619/ap_on_el_pr/obama_money_analysis
Is this good for us or bad? Anyone?
#560 Kiki17
I HATE HBO too!!! I AM WITH YOU!!!
BD
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Subject: [HillarySupporters] Shalom International to protest Obama in
Miamion 6/21/08
From: Robert Kunst
Date: Thu, June 19, 2008 11:55 am
To:
Subject: Shalom International to protest Obama in Miami on 6/21/08. This is the first anti-Obama protest in the nation, since he claimed the Democratic Nomination.
The Rebbe said that even on Shabbos, we must rally to save Jewish lives.(Schneerson-’When Silence Is Sin’)
As you know, Barack Obama stabbed the Jewish community in the back within 24 hrs. of his speech at AIPAC in Wash.,D.C. on June 4, 2008, when he supported a ‘United Jerusalem’, and then reversed himself by siding with the Islamic Nazis who want Jerusalem divided, which means the end of the Jewish State. ( We were there at AIPAC as well with our signs).
Obama will be coming to Miami at the Intercontinental Hotel, Biscayne Blvd. and lst St., Chopin Plaza….on Saturday, June 21, 2008.
Shalom International/www.defendjerusalem.net…… will be there protesting Obama as ‘Bad For America and Bad For Israel’… at 10AM.
We don’t know what time he will address the National Mayors Conference, so we intend to be there with the press in advance. A Japanese tv crew from Wash., D.C. is already coming down for us.
We went to get our police permit today.(The Secret Service might move us to 2nd St. and Bisc. Blvd.).
Please let your networks know and join with us if you can. You can also stay at nearby hotels and join with us even on Shabbos. This is very important that we speak out and set the tone for this campaign and that Obama is Hamas’ candidate as well as Obama having a dozen key people who also support Hamas, who are part of his campaign. We will bring that list.
Fla. is the ‘pivotal’ state for November and we intend to make sure that the Jewish and Christian Zionist communities deny Obama any victory at the ballot box in Fla. as well as in other ‘key’ states like Ohio, Pa.,Mo., etc.
‘Appeasing the Islamic Nazis’ is extremely dangerous for Israel and for America, let alone having these people as part of his administration.
Yours in Shalom,
Bob Kunst
Pres., Shalom International (and Hillarynow.com that started her campaign in Aug. 2003, went to 210 cities on her behalf and 1000+ media, but will NOT support Obama under any circumstances.)
305-874-5100
http://www.defendjerusalem/
We must let our voices be heard. We will also be at the Dem. and GOP National Conventions, plan a protest at the UN on 9/21/08 and in a dozen cities as well.
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Subject: [HillarySupporters] Shalom International to protest Obama in
Miamion 6/21/08
From: Robert Kunst
Date: Thu, June 19, 2008 11:55 am
To:
Subject: Shalom International to protest Obama in Miami on 6/21/08. This is the first anti-Obama protest in the nation, since he claimed the Democratic Nomination.
The Rebbe said that even on Shabbos, we must rally to save Jewish lives.(Schneerson-’When Silence Is Sin’)
As you know, Barack Obama stabbed the Jewish community in the back within 24 hrs. of his speech at AIPAC in Wash.,D.C. on June 4, 2008, when he supported a ‘United Jerusalem’, and then reversed himself by siding with the Islamic Nazis who want Jerusalem divided, which means the end of the Jewish State. ( We were there at AIPAC as well with our signs).
Obama will be coming to Miami at the Intercontinental Hotel, Biscayne Blvd. and lst St., Chopin Plaza….on Saturday, June 21, 2008.
Shalom International/www.defendjerusalem.net…… will be there protesting Obama as ‘Bad For America and Bad For Israel’… at 10AM.
We don’t know what time he will address the National Mayors Conference, so we intend to be there with the press in advance. A Japanese tv crew from Wash., D.C. is already coming down for us.
We went to get our police permit today.(The Secret Service might move us to 2nd St. and Bisc. Blvd.).
Please let your networks know and join with us if you can. You can also stay at nearby hotels and join with us even on Shabbos. This is very important that we speak out and set the tone for this campaign and that Obama is Hamas’ candidate as well as Obama having a dozen key people who also support Hamas, who are part of his campaign. We will bring that list.
Fla. is the ‘pivotal’ state for November and we intend to make sure that the Jewish and Christian Zionist communities deny Obama any victory at the ballot box in Fla. as well as in other ‘key’ states like Ohio, Pa.,Mo., etc.
‘Appeasing the Islamic Nazis’ is extremely dangerous for Israel and for America, let alone having these people as part of his administration.
Yours in Shalom,
Bob Kunst
Pres., Shalom International (and Hillarynow.com that started her campaign in Aug. 2003, went to 210 cities on her behalf and 1000+ media, but will NOT support Obama under any circumstances.)
305-874-5100
http://www.defendjerusalem/
We must let our voices be heard. We will also be at the Dem. and GOP National Conventions, plan a protest at the UN on 9/21/08 and in a dozen cities as well.
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Subject: [HillarySupporters] Shalom International to protest Obama in
Miamion 6/21/08
From: Robert Kunst
Date: Thu, June 19, 2008 11:55 am
To:
Subject: Shalom International to protest Obama in Miami on 6/21/08. This is the first anti-Obama protest in the nation, since he claimed the Democratic Nomination.
The Rebbe said that even on Shabbos, we must rally to save Jewish lives.(Schneerson-’When Silence Is Sin’)
As you know, Barack Obama stabbed the Jewish community in the back within 24 hrs. of his speech at AIPAC in Wash.,D.C. on June 4, 2008, when he supported a ‘United Jerusalem’, and then reversed himself by siding with the Islamic Nazis who want Jerusalem divided, which means the end of the Jewish State. ( We were there at AIPAC as well with our signs).
Obama will be coming to Miami at the Intercontinental Hotel, Biscayne Blvd. and lst St., Chopin Plaza….on Saturday, June 21, 2008.
Shalom International/www.defendjerusalem.net…… will be there protesting Obama as ‘Bad For America and Bad For Israel’… at 10AM.
We don’t know what time he will address the National Mayors Conference, so we intend to be there with the press in advance. A Japanese tv crew from Wash., D.C. is already coming down for us.
We went to get our police permit today.(The Secret Service might move us to 2nd St. and Bisc. Blvd.).
Please let your networks know and join with us if you can. You can also stay at nearby hotels and join with us even on Shabbos. This is very important that we speak out and set the tone for this campaign and that Obama is Hamas’ candidate as well as Obama having a dozen key people who also support Hamas, who are part of his campaign. We will bring that list.
Fla. is the ‘pivotal’ state for November and we intend to make sure that the Jewish and Christian Zionist communities deny Obama any victory at the ballot box in Fla. as well as in other ‘key’ states like Ohio, Pa.,Mo., etc.
‘Appeasing the Islamic Nazis’ is extremely dangerous for Israel and for America, let alone having these people as part of his administration.
Yours in Shalom,
Bob Kunst
Pres., Shalom International (and Hillarynow.com that started her campaign in Aug. 2003, went to 210 cities on her behalf and 1000+ media, but will NOT support Obama under any circumstances.)
305-874-5100
http://www.defendjerusalem/
We must let our voices be heard. We will also be at the Dem. and GOP National Conventions, plan a protest at the UN on 9/21/08 and in a dozen cities as well.
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HillarySupporters mailing list
HillarySupporters@hillarysupporters.com
http://lists.hillarysupporters.com/mailman/listinfo/hillarysupporters
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Subject: [HillarySupporters] Shalom International to protest Obama in
Miamion 6/21/08
From: Robert Kunst
Date: Thu, June 19, 2008 11:55 am
To:
Subject: Shalom International to protest Obama in Miami on 6/21/08. This is the first anti-Obama protest in the nation, since he claimed the Democratic Nomination.
The Rebbe said that even on Shabbos, we must rally to save Jewish lives.(Schneerson-’When Silence Is Sin’)
As you know, Barack Obama stabbed the Jewish community in the back within 24 hrs. of his speech at AIPAC in Wash.,D.C. on June 4, 2008, when he supported a ‘United Jerusalem’, and then reversed himself by siding with the Islamic Nazis who want Jerusalem divided, which means the end of the Jewish State. ( We were there at AIPAC as well with our signs).
Obama will be coming to Miami at the Intercontinental Hotel, Biscayne Blvd. and lst St., Chopin Plaza….on Saturday, June 21, 2008.
Shalom International/www.defendjerusalem.net…… will be there protesting Obama as ‘Bad For America and Bad For Israel’… at 10AM.
We don’t know what time he will address the National Mayors Conference, so we intend to be there with the press in advance. A Japanese tv crew from Wash., D.C. is already coming down for us.
We went to get our police permit today.(The Secret Service might move us to 2nd St. and Bisc. Blvd.).
Please let your networks know and join with us if you can. You can also stay at nearby hotels and join with us even on Shabbos. This is very important that we speak out and set the tone for this campaign and that Obama is Hamas’ candidate as well as Obama having a dozen key people who also support Hamas, who are part of his campaign. We will bring that list.
Fla. is the ‘pivotal’ state for November and we intend to make sure that the Jewish and Christian Zionist communities deny Obama any victory at the ballot box in Fla. as well as in other ‘key’ states like Ohio, Pa.,Mo., etc.
‘Appeasing the Islamic Nazis’ is extremely dangerous for Israel and for America, let alone having these people as part of his administration.
Yours in Shalom,
Bob Kunst
Pres., Shalom International (and Hillarynow.com that started her campaign in Aug. 2003, went to 210 cities on her behalf and 1000+ media, but will NOT support Obama under any circumstances.)
305-874-5100
http://www.defendjerusalem/
We must let our voices be heard. We will also be at the Dem. and GOP National Conventions, plan a protest at the UN on 9/21/08 and in a dozen cities as well.
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HillarySupporters mailing list
HillarySupporters@hillarysupporters.com
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Subject: [HillarySupporters] Shalom International to protest Obama in
Miamion 6/21/08
From: Robert Kunst
Date: Thu, June 19, 2008 11:55 am
To:
Subject: Shalom International to protest Obama in Miami on 6/21/08. This is the first anti-Obama protest in the nation, since he claimed the Democratic Nomination.
The Rebbe said that even on Shabbos, we must rally to save Jewish lives.(Schneerson-’When Silence Is Sin’)
As you know, Barack Obama stabbed the Jewish community in the back within 24 hrs. of his speech at AIPAC in Wash.,D.C. on June 4, 2008, when he supported a ‘United Jerusalem’, and then reversed himself by siding with the Islamic Nazis who want Jerusalem divided, which means the end of the Jewish State. ( We were there at AIPAC as well with our signs).
Obama will be coming to Miami at the Intercontinental Hotel, Biscayne Blvd. and lst St., Chopin Plaza….on Saturday, June 21, 2008.
Shalom International/www.defendjerusalem.net…… will be there protesting Obama as ‘Bad For America and Bad For Israel’… at 10AM.
We don’t know what time he will address the National Mayors Conference, so we intend to be there with the press in advance. A Japanese tv crew from Wash., D.C. is already coming down for us.
We went to get our police permit today.(The Secret Service might move us to 2nd St. and Bisc. Blvd.).
Please let your networks know and join with us if you can. You can also stay at nearby hotels and join with us even on Shabbos. This is very important that we speak out and set the tone for this campaign and that Obama is Hamas’ candidate as well as Obama having a dozen key people who also support Hamas, who are part of his campaign. We will bring that list.
Fla. is the ‘pivotal’ state for November and we intend to make sure that the Jewish and Christian Zionist communities deny Obama any victory at the ballot box in Fla. as well as in other ‘key’ states like Ohio, Pa.,Mo., etc.
‘Appeasing the Islamic Nazis’ is extremely dangerous for Israel and for America, let alone having these people as part of his administration.
Yours in Shalom,
Bob Kunst
Pres., Shalom International (and Hillarynow.com that started her campaign in Aug. 2003, went to 210 cities on her behalf and 1000+ media, but will NOT support Obama under any circumstances.)
305-874-5100
http://www.defendjerusalem/
We must let our voices be heard. We will also be at the Dem. and GOP National Conventions, plan a protest at the UN on 9/21/08 and in a dozen cities as well.
——————————————————————————–
_______________________________________________
HillarySupporters mailing list
HillarySupporters@hillarysupporters.com
http://lists.hillarysupporters.com/mailman/listinfo/hillarysupporters
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——– Original Message ——–
Subject: [HillarySupporters] Shalom International to protest Obama in
Miamion 6/21/08
From: Robert Kunst
Date: Thu, June 19, 2008 11:55 am
To:
Subject: Shalom International to protest Obama in Miami on 6/21/08. This is the first anti-Obama protest in the nation, since he claimed the Democratic Nomination.
The Rebbe said that even on Shabbos, we must rally to save Jewish lives.(Schneerson-’When Silence Is Sin’)
As you know, Barack Obama stabbed the Jewish community in the back within 24 hrs. of his speech at AIPAC in Wash.,D.C. on June 4, 2008, when he supported a ‘United Jerusalem’, and then reversed himself by siding with the Islamic Nazis who want Jerusalem divided, which means the end of the Jewish State. ( We were there at AIPAC as well with our signs).
Obama will be coming to Miami at the Intercontinental Hotel, Biscayne Blvd. and lst St., Chopin Plaza….on Saturday, June 21, 2008.
Shalom International/www.defendjerusalem.net…… will be there protesting Obama as ‘Bad For America and Bad For Israel’… at 10AM.
We don’t know what time he will address the National Mayors Conference, so we intend to be there with the press in advance. A Japanese tv crew from Wash., D.C. is already coming down for us.
We went to get our police permit today.(The Secret Service might move us to 2nd St. and Bisc. Blvd.).
Please let your networks know and join with us if you can. You can also stay at nearby hotels and join with us even on Shabbos. This is very important that we speak out and set the tone for this campaign and that Obama is Hamas’ candidate as well as Obama having a dozen key people who also support Hamas, who are part of his campaign. We will bring that list.
Fla. is the ‘pivotal’ state for November and we intend to make sure that the Jewish and Christian Zionist communities deny Obama any victory at the ballot box in Fla. as well as in other ‘key’ states like Ohio, Pa.,Mo., etc.
‘Appeasing the Islamic Nazis’ is extremely dangerous for Israel and for America, let alone having these people as part of his administration.
Yours in Shalom,
Bob Kunst
Pres., Shalom International (and Hillarynow.com that started her campaign in Aug. 2003, went to 210 cities on her behalf and 1000+ media, but will NOT support Obama under any circumstances.)
305-874-5100
http://www.defendjerusalem/
We must let our voices be heard. We will also be at the Dem. and GOP National Conventions, plan a protest at the UN on 9/21/08 and in a dozen cities as well.
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Subject: [HillarySupporters] Shalom International to protest Obama in
Miamion 6/21/08
From: Robert Kunst
Date: Thu, June 19, 2008 11:55 am
To:
Subject: Shalom International to protest Obama in Miami on 6/21/08. This is the first anti-Obama protest in the nation, since he claimed the Democratic Nomination.
The Rebbe said that even on Shabbos, we must rally to save Jewish lives.(Schneerson-’When Silence Is Sin’)
As you know, Barack Obama stabbed the Jewish community in the back within 24 hrs. of his speech at AIPAC in Wash.,D.C. on June 4, 2008, when he supported a ‘United Jerusalem’, and then reversed himself by siding with the Islamic Nazis who want Jerusalem divided, which means the end of the Jewish State. ( We were there at AIPAC as well with our signs).
Obama will be coming to Miami at the Intercontinental Hotel, Biscayne Blvd. and lst St., Chopin Plaza….on Saturday, June 21, 2008.
Shalom International/www.defendjerusalem.net…… will be there protesting Obama as ‘Bad For America and Bad For Israel’… at 10AM.
We don’t know what time he will address the National Mayors Conference, so we intend to be there with the press in advance. A Japanese tv crew from Wash., D.C. is already coming down for us.
We went to get our police permit today.(The Secret Service might move us to 2nd St. and Bisc. Blvd.).
Please let your networks know and join with us if you can. You can also stay at nearby hotels and join with us even on Shabbos. This is very important that we speak out and set the tone for this campaign and that Obama is Hamas’ candidate as well as Obama having a dozen key people who also support Hamas, who are part of his campaign. We will bring that list.
Fla. is the ‘pivotal’ state for November and we intend to make sure that the Jewish and Christian Zionist communities deny Obama any victory at the ballot box in Fla. as well as in other ‘key’ states like Ohio, Pa.,Mo., etc.
‘Appeasing the Islamic Nazis’ is extremely dangerous for Israel and for America, let alone having these people as part of his administration.
Yours in Shalom,
Bob Kunst
Pres., Shalom International (and Hillarynow.com that started her campaign in Aug. 2003, went to 210 cities on her behalf and 1000+ media, but will NOT support Obama under any circumstances.)
305-874-5100
http://www.defendjerusalem/
We must let our voices be heard. We will also be at the Dem. and GOP National Conventions, plan a protest at the UN on 9/21/08 and in a dozen cities as well.
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Subject: [HillarySupporters] Shalom International to protest Obama in
Miamion 6/21/08
From: Robert Kunst
Date: Thu, June 19, 2008 11:55 am
To:
Subject: Shalom International to protest Obama in Miami on 6/21/08. This is the first anti-Obama protest in the nation, since he claimed the Democratic Nomination.
The Rebbe said that even on Shabbos, we must rally to save Jewish lives.(Schneerson-’When Silence Is Sin’)
As you know, Barack Obama stabbed the Jewish community in the back within 24 hrs. of his speech at AIPAC in Wash.,D.C. on June 4, 2008, when he supported a ‘United Jerusalem’, and then reversed himself by siding with the Islamic Nazis who want Jerusalem divided, which means the end of the Jewish State. ( We were there at AIPAC as well with our signs).
Obama will be coming to Miami at the Intercontinental Hotel, Biscayne Blvd. and lst St., Chopin Plaza….on Saturday, June 21, 2008.
Shalom International/www.defendjerusalem.net…… will be there protesting Obama as ‘Bad For America and Bad For Israel’… at 10AM.
We don’t know what time he will address the National Mayors Conference, so we intend to be there with the press in advance. A Japanese tv crew from Wash., D.C. is already coming down for us.
We went to get our police permit today.(The Secret Service might move us to 2nd St. and Bisc. Blvd.).
Please let your networks know and join with us if you can. You can also stay at nearby hotels and join with us even on Shabbos. This is very important that we speak out and set the tone for this campaign and that Obama is Hamas’ candidate as well as Obama having a dozen key people who also support Hamas, who are part of his campaign. We will bring that list.
Fla. is the ‘pivotal’ state for November and we intend to make sure that the Jewish and Christian Zionist communities deny Obama any victory at the ballot box in Fla. as well as in other ‘key’ states like Ohio, Pa.,Mo., etc.
‘Appeasing the Islamic Nazis’ is extremely dangerous for Israel and for America, let alone having these people as part of his administration.
Yours in Shalom,
Bob Kunst
Pres., Shalom International (and Hillarynow.com that started her campaign in Aug. 2003, went to 210 cities on her behalf and 1000+ media, but will NOT support Obama under any circumstances.)
305-874-5100
http://www.defendjerusalem/
We must let our voices be heard. We will also be at the Dem. and GOP National Conventions, plan a protest at the UN on 9/21/08 and in a dozen cities as well.
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Subject: [HillarySupporters] Shalom International to protest Obama in
Miamion 6/21/08
From: Robert Kunst
Date: Thu, June 19, 2008 11:55 am
To:
Subject: Shalom International to protest Obama in Miami on 6/21/08. This is the first anti-Obama protest in the nation, since he claimed the Democratic Nomination.
The Rebbe said that even on Shabbos, we must rally to save Jewish lives.(Schneerson-’When Silence Is Sin’)
As you know, Barack Obama stabbed the Jewish community in the back within 24 hrs. of his speech at AIPAC in Wash.,D.C. on June 4, 2008, when he supported a ‘United Jerusalem’, and then reversed himself by siding with the Islamic Nazis who want Jerusalem divided, which means the end of the Jewish State. ( We were there at AIPAC as well with our signs).
Obama will be coming to Miami at the Intercontinental Hotel, Biscayne Blvd. and lst St., Chopin Plaza….on Saturday, June 21, 2008.
Shalom International/www.defendjerusalem.net…… will be there protesting Obama as ‘Bad For America and Bad For Israel’… at 10AM.
We don’t know what time he will address the National Mayors Conference, so we intend to be there with the press in advance. A Japanese tv crew from Wash., D.C. is already coming down for us.
We went to get our police permit today.(The Secret Service might move us to 2nd St. and Bisc. Blvd.).
Please let your networks know and join with us if you can. You can also stay at nearby hotels and join with us even on Shabbos. This is very important that we speak out and set the tone for this campaign and that Obama is Hamas’ candidate as well as Obama having a dozen key people who also support Hamas, who are part of his campaign. We will bring that list.
Fla. is the ‘pivotal’ state for November and we intend to make sure that the Jewish and Christian Zionist communities deny Obama any victory at the ballot box in Fla. as well as in other ‘key’ states like Ohio, Pa.,Mo., etc.
‘Appeasing the Islamic Nazis’ is extremely dangerous for Israel and for America, let alone having these people as part of his administration.
Yours in Shalom,
Bob Kunst
Pres., Shalom International (and Hillarynow.com that started her campaign in Aug. 2003, went to 210 cities on her behalf and 1000+ media, but will NOT support Obama under any circumstances.)
305-874-5100
http://www.defendjerusalem/
We must let our voices be heard. We will also be at the Dem. and GOP National Conventions, plan a protest at the UN on 9/21/08 and in a dozen cities as well.
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Subject: [HillarySupporters] Shalom International to protest Obama in
Miamion 6/21/08
From: Robert Kunst
Date: Thu, June 19, 2008 11:55 am
To:
Subject: Shalom International to protest Obama in Miami on 6/21/08. This is the first anti-Obama protest in the nation, since he claimed the Democratic Nomination.
The Rebbe said that even on Shabbos, we must rally to save Jewish lives.(Schneerson-’When Silence Is Sin’)
As you know, Barack Obama stabbed the Jewish community in the back within 24 hrs. of his speech at AIPAC in Wash.,D.C. on June 4, 2008, when he supported a ‘United Jerusalem’, and then reversed himself by siding with the Islamic Nazis who want Jerusalem divided, which means the end of the Jewish State. ( We were there at AIPAC as well with our signs).
Obama will be coming to Miami at the Intercontinental Hotel, Biscayne Blvd. and lst St., Chopin Plaza….on Saturday, June 21, 2008.
Shalom International/www.defendjerusalem.net…… will be there protesting Obama as ‘Bad For America and Bad For Israel’… at 10AM.
We don’t know what time he will address the National Mayors Conference, so we intend to be there with the press in advance. A Japanese tv crew from Wash., D.C. is already coming down for us.
We went to get our police permit today.(The Secret Service might move us to 2nd St. and Bisc. Blvd.).
Please let your networks know and join with us if you can. You can also stay at nearby hotels and join with us even on Shabbos. This is very important that we speak out and set the tone for this campaign and that Obama is Hamas’ candidate as well as Obama having a dozen key people who also support Hamas, who are part of his campaign. We will bring that list.
Fla. is the ‘pivotal’ state for November and we intend to make sure that the Jewish and Christian Zionist communities deny Obama any victory at the ballot box in Fla. as well as in other ‘key’ states like Ohio, Pa.,Mo., etc.
‘Appeasing the Islamic Nazis’ is extremely dangerous for Israel and for America, let alone having these people as part of his administration.
Yours in Shalom,
Bob Kunst
Pres., Shalom International (and Hillarynow.com that started her campaign in Aug. 2003, went to 210 cities on her behalf and 1000+ media, but will NOT support Obama under any circumstances.)
305-874-5100
http://www.defendjerusalem/
We must let our voices be heard. We will also be at the Dem. and GOP National Conventions, plan a protest at the UN on 9/21/08 and in a dozen cities as well.
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Subject: [HillarySupporters] Shalom International to protest Obama in
Miamion 6/21/08
From: Robert Kunst
Date: Thu, June 19, 2008 11:55 am
To:
Subject: Shalom International to protest Obama in Miami on 6/21/08. This is the first anti-Obama protest in the nation, since he claimed the Democratic Nomination.
The Rebbe said that even on Shabbos, we must rally to save Jewish lives.(Schneerson-’When Silence Is Sin’)
As you know, Barack Obama stabbed the Jewish community in the back within 24 hrs. of his speech at AIPAC in Wash.,D.C. on June 4, 2008, when he supported a ‘United Jerusalem’, and then reversed himself by siding with the Islamic Nazis who want Jerusalem divided, which means the end of the Jewish State. ( We were there at AIPAC as well with our signs).
Obama will be coming to Miami at the Intercontinental Hotel, Biscayne Blvd. and lst St., Chopin Plaza….on Saturday, June 21, 2008.
Shalom International/www.defendjerusalem.net…… will be there protesting Obama as ‘Bad For America and Bad For Israel’… at 10AM.
We don’t know what time he will address the National Mayors Conference, so we intend to be there with the press in advance. A Japanese tv crew from Wash., D.C. is already coming down for us.
We went to get our police permit today.(The Secret Service might move us to 2nd St. and Bisc. Blvd.).
Please let your networks know and join with us if you can. You can also stay at nearby hotels and join with us even on Shabbos. This is very important that we speak out and set the tone for this campaign and that Obama is Hamas’ candidate as well as Obama having a dozen key people who also support Hamas, who are part of his campaign. We will bring that list.
Fla. is the ‘pivotal’ state for November and we intend to make sure that the Jewish and Christian Zionist communities deny Obama any victory at the ballot box in Fla. as well as in other ‘key’ states like Ohio, Pa.,Mo., etc.
‘Appeasing the Islamic Nazis’ is extremely dangerous for Israel and for America, let alone having these people as part of his administration.
Yours in Shalom,
Bob Kunst
Pres., Shalom International (and Hillarynow.com that started her campaign in Aug. 2003, went to 210 cities on her behalf and 1000+ media, but will NOT support Obama under any circumstances.)
305-874-5100
http://www.defendjerusalem/
We must let our voices be heard. We will also be at the Dem. and GOP National Conventions, plan a protest at the UN on 9/21/08 and in a dozen cities as well.
——————————————————————————–
_______________________________________________
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HillarySupporters@hillarysupporters.com
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rlp33
i think it’s great for john mccain…he can hammer him on being a hypocrite and just like everyone else in washington…hurts his change argument
To bad we couldn’t do a video with about 50 people wearing NoName s T shirts with his picture on it and a circle around it with a line accross his face. And accross the top of the shirt saying Don’t Drink The Kool-Aid.
OK went nuts sorry
#545 queen81 on 06.19.08 at 11:18 pm
#537 Bron
What issues in particular concern you? (not trying to change your mind at all, just happy to engage and help with your decision)
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Well, I’ve got work tomorrow, so I’ll be signing off soon, but I appreciate the offer and maybe we can resume tomorrow night? But I’ll give you a few big ones:
He supports making the Bush tax cuts permanent.
He does not support Universal Health Care (nor foes Obama, of course).
His immigration policies.
In general, he seems to be pushing a fairly typical Republican platform and one that’s very far to the right. His moves to placate the extreme conservative wing, for example, moved him “out fo reach” for me.
There’s a huge reference book, I can’t think of the exact title of it now, that lists all actors, producers, etc., their agents, publicity companys/production companies, etc. It might be in the reference depts of libraries. It would give you some options for contacting people like Jack Nicholson, etc. If you subscrine to” Hollywood Reporter” or “Variety,” you have access to that info also. Libraries sometimes provide access through their online database offerings.
antifish you still here
#552 Jeremy on 06.19.08 at 11:23 pm
Thanks! You, too!
Last night someone posted a link to the superdelegate count page. does anyone have this?
Been surfing and it appears that mo did not pass the Illinois Bar Exam but I am trying to find a reputable site that states this rather than post something that would not be factual.
Bron,
We spend a lot of time looking at how *61 came into being. A more interesting question is why? Why now? It’s a story that we will never know -it seems. There are some inquisitive reads on the Internet -but how do we really know what’s going on. There are so many interests, back room deals… In politics, even enemies are smiling together in front of the camera. The media is into agenda setting. Why would they endorse, through their actions, *61? They are out to cover the extraordinary so that people will watch. They are also friends with many Democrats. Who knows what goes in their ears. I’m just thinking in post, but there seems to be larger things at work. PUMA appears to be a thorn in “their” side. So, to the baser side of all of this, the side without the why questions, how do we fight this? Fire with Fire is a tactic. This movement needs money and resources -to be seen and heard. Bottom line. That’s what the opponents have in this affair -we need to act on their level.
I don’t know what I just wrote -I’m exhausted;) I think I had a point in there…
Best,
JGoldman1
webfoot what did i do wrong
#626 shewolf on 06.20.08 at 12:13 am
Why is this post so long? It looks like the same message entered multiple times. Am I missing something? Is this intentional or a mistake?
#626 shewolf,
All right already! We got it the first time, LOL! Bless your heart.
Seriously though, they sound like a group of like-minded individuals. Maybe we could recruit some of their members?
#636 shewolf on 06.20.08 at 12:20 am
OK, I see you made a mistake…No problem. Just had me scared their for a moment. Thought we’d been hacked.
#634 Barbara4Hill
I doubt MO could pass a parked car even if she was the only driver on the road, nevermind her bar exam. After all, she’s MO, her degree should have been wrapped in gold and given to her the day she entered law school. What was that law school thinking. No respect for the one named MO!
sorry mistake
Internet Searches on *61
He is running a new ad talking about his community organizing in Chicago. Does anyone have any information about *61 helping neighborhoods devastated by plant closings?
I found an article that stated he evaded leadership on many local issues such as historic preservation to demolition of public housing.
One more thing, most of the bills that he is taking credit for occurred in his last year of office in Illinois.
I believe the idea of investigating his political record is an excellent idea. I’m trying to write a letter in response to a pro*61 magazine website about the ad.
Go Team PUMA!!!!
LOL she will forever go through life named MO, MO & BO, poetic justice
It is so easy to find a doctor/nurse license, why is it complicated to check on a bar examine whether it is pass or failed ?
#568 N. Lee on 06.19.08 at 11:34 pm
Hot off the press….new video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVSAPNmrvlk
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Awesome! Outstanding!!! Great job, N. Lee!!
Everyone here will definitely enjoy it.
#642 shewolf,
Don’t worry about it. We all make mistakes. The story is good news, though. We need more groups to protest Obama.
#634 TrishfromCanada on 06.20.08 at 12:19 am
Which link do you mean? I remember posting one for you. Is that the one you want, or the other one, the lobbydelegates one?
what’s going on peeps?
#641 TrishfromCanada on 06.20.08 at 12:23 am
They must have been racist.
my understanding of his “community organizer” days was that he registered voter with a group called acorn…the group eventually came under fire for registering ineligable people and dead people…smaped election offices with new registrants and 75% were not legit or able to be honored. the group eventually ended up in court andnit was one of the few cases where he actually did assist on the legal team.
Hi there goandersen. Where’ve you been?
#647 BrooklynNY
The one you posted
wow, my brain works faster then my fingers tonight! sorry for the typos folks!
Lordy,
reading up on esoteric stuff, answering emails etc
I there are no trolls in here
I can’t stay long. have to do my eye exercises and get some shut eye.
#630 Bron on 06.20.08 at 12:15 am
If you want clarification on McCain’s positions, why don’t you go to his website? He’s got his positions pretty clearly listed, or you could go to his blogsite and ask the Mccainiacs about him. They’d probably know more than we do and they’re very nice people.
#641 Trish
I guess it isn’t all that important if she passed but it kind of makes you wonder.
I also think bo planned this presidential run a long time ago. He made a speech and I can’t remember what year but I think it was in 2004 at one of the democratic primaries and everyone was asking who is this barack and where did he come from. At least I think it was in 2004 but I could be wrong. This has been a work in progress for some time now.
I wish i could be there Shewolf. I would stand proud with everyone. Dang why wasn’t i born rich. I sure will be watching the news.
Hi goandersen!
#655 goandersen on 06.20.08 at 12:32 am
Are you asking if there are no trolls or saying there are none?
#597 Susie1945 on 06.19.08 at 11:50 pm
OK, Susie, keep us posted! I’d love to see you dig up something good. I have a lot of friends who who’s eyes I have opened to the real BO, so I’ll share anything you find.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html
“Al Sharpton told Foxnews, if Obama goes into Convention with more popular votes but is not elected as the nominee,
he and his black brothers will go to demonstrate on the street.”
SO — now that hillary is the popular vote nominee —————————–shall we be protesting ???
641, 649 Trish & Brooklyn,
Yes, they were undoubtedly racist. Just as we are for not supporting Obama. Right, lurking Obamabots?
antifish
what bothers me is the Hama`s connection and there is some weird stuff going on do you fill it or is it just me
Media Coverage of Michelle Obama Has Been
Usually too lenient
87% (1580 votes)
Usually too lenient, sometimes too harsh
5% (91 votes)
Usually too harsh
1% (23 votes)
Usually too harsh, sometimes fair
1% (27 votes)
Usually fair
4% (73 votes)
Unsure
http://www.newsbusters.org/polls/media-coverage-michelle-obama-has-been-22070
The letters page is one of the most read sections of print publications. It can be a way to share concerns about BO in a public forum (more widely read than a blog). I just sent an objection to a commentary in The New Yorker magazine (23 June issue, Talk of the Town section), by Hendrik Hertzberg. I found it patronizing, he was saying the women Clinton supporters are senselessly acting against their own interests. I brought up how the character issue is more important than self-interest and that is why polls have shown for some time that Obama cannot win against McCain. I said the DNC will act against their own interests backing Obama when the convention rolls around.
There are other angles people can use to object to his comments writing a letter to the editor. I suspect something’s wrong with his numbers, and he paints a picture of BO as some poor brilliant guy who beat the odds getting into the senate, when isn’t his wife a millionaire? The senate is full of rich people. He’s hardly an anomaly there. And I think it is unfair to bring up lynchings of the past to defend Obama who did not grow up with the legacy of slavery messing up his family mentality. But it’s important to keep letters to the editor short, so I left out those points. But someone else can bring them up. (too bad I’m not keeping this comment short, eh?)
And I just want to say that Jimmy Carter is a humble warm-hearted person while BO is too cool, a Mr. Smug. I like and appreciate Jimmy Carter.
#658 Barbara4Hill on 06.20.08 at 12:34 am
In an earlier blog thread – quite awhile ago actually – someone posted a detailed timeline of BO’s grooming for this very moment. Dean etc. very much a part of the story. Can’t remember the exact day it was posted or who posted it, but definitely pointed to this being a long-planned and well-thought out meticulous, detailed strategy.
McCain: “I Didn’t Love America Until”……
by EmperorHadrian
Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 08:38:54 PM PDT
Huffingtonpost.com now has a video from Verdict with Dan Abrams, from an interview John McCain gave with Fox “News” earlier this year. In it, he says,
I really didn’t love America until I was deprived of her company
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/19/23295/5577/193/538811
dailykos should change thier name to DAILYHATE OR We Hate America Group =WHAG
NOW they are smearing up mccain
#658 Barbara4Hill
I’m going to help you search in a few minutes. My best friend is a lawyer and I remember how hard she worked in law school and then when she articled. It irritates me to no end that MO wants a free ride just cause she’s a lawyer. My friend had debt out of law school, but she didn’t b*tch, like most people I know, myself included, student loans were a priviledge, not a right, and we were very pleased that we had that help to get us through uni. i don’t think I’ve ever heard any of my friends complain about paying it back. why, cause qualifying for the loan brought us immediately into adulthood in our eyes and repaying it meant we showed responsibilty. Mo could learn a little about both
#658 Barabara,
Yes, he gave the speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004. He was the keynote speaker chosen by John Kerry.
faye4hill
#663
YES!!!!!!!!!!!! lets go
#660 antifish
Hi
# 661 Brooklyn. lol! Are there any?
I think if this was turned around and Hillary gets on the ballot in Nov 08 as she should I think there will be protests by bo followers/supporters what ever they are called. I think it could get ugly.
#665 shewolf on 06.20.08 at 12:38 am
I feel it too. It kept me up most of the night not long ago. Couldn’t sleep. My internal radar was screaming so loud it kept me awake all night.
As long as we can breathe, we will never stop our support to Hillary!
#665 shewolf,
He has longstanding ties to the Palestinian community, check this out.
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6619.shtml
Queen 81
Thank you for the information.
#624 rlp33
I think that it’s bad for HBO, BUT IT’S GOOD FOR US! At the very beginning he said that he would take the money, and he did, but now he says that he’ll give all of the tax payers money back, and instead raise money by himself. Here’s a link that shows who donated to HBO.
http://opensecrets.org/pres08/select.php?cycle=2008
BD
#270 sisterdo on 06.19.08 at 8:43 pm
It’s good to see you and HLF again.
And I’m glad to know you’re both boycotting TM.com : – )
goandersen hi
havent heard from you in a long time
#663 faye4hill
who cares what Sharpton says. Go protest. No one goes to protests anymore. That is so 60’s
#673 goandersen on 06.20.08 at 12:40 am
I think we’ve had a few. But they’ve morphed or mutated might be a better word – I’d say now they’re not trolls, they’re moles. Same as trolls but a little more subtle. Just as troublesome and destructive though….It’s really irking me.
#665 shewolf,
Check this out as well.
http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2008/02/i-received-the.html
00ps #664
Here’s an online link to the commentary I just talked about.
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/06/23/080623taco_talk_hertzberg
#616 Barbara4Hill on 06.20.08 at 12:03 am
I know. It would be great. But I do think she’s too invested in the DP. Barring some surprise at the convention, I don;t see any way. But who knows?
Though he was attacked for saying it, Bill was right when he said we’d be throwing the dice with Obama. A lot can happen between now and November.
#684 Brooklyn
I thought this was a troll free site?
I would just like to know if NoNames birth certificate is real.
668 BrooklynNY
I know for a fact that bo planned this with plenty of backing. It really sickens me that it is being done unfairly. It would be different if he was elected but he was selected and that just rubs me the wrong way. That is not why this country was founded. It was founded on Freedom and our freedom was denied us.
I am ready to be seen in large well organized numbers. If it means gathering in numbers then we should be planning that.
Hi Pumas!
I read on riverdaughter’s comments that on the O site they have a section where Hillary Supporters can “share their stories”. That is so creepy. What are they supposed to share? How they’ve converted? How they’re ready to drink the kool aid?
This scene from this old flick I’m sure many of you will remember reminds me of the Obamonots, reminds me of the DNC Leadership too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0QBim4Rd4k
#689 goandersen on 06.20.08 at 12:45 am
It is goandersen; no outright overt trolls get in. Sometimes I think a mole or two might slip by. It can be hard to detect them. Gotta trust your gut. After being on McCain’s and seeing so many of them, you start to recognize the pattern, the dialogue and strategy. But they’re subtle….
#658 Barbara4Hill
It appears MO did pass the bar exam but gave up her licence in 2003 as she did not want to practice any longer. That’s not so smart as if she wants to practice again she has to rewrite the bar exam. I wonder why she didn’t take non praticing status, probably didn’t want to pay the fee. I bet if those two get in the whitehouse, they’ll have a yard sale in the first week and bank the proceeds
#636 JGoldman1
I have a newly formed theory about this and it is just that – speculation with no factual basis to back it up. Someone might investigate though to see if it holds any water…
Hillary Clinton is a strong politician. The Clintons have many enemies. Perhaps the organizations and entities that Hillary would go after as President have formed their own coalitions to fight against her winning the nomination and subsequent election. These entities have billions of $$ at their disposal.
For example, Health Care reform means insurance companies lose $$. Alternate energy research and windfall profits taxes mean oil companies lose $$. The list is probably goes on and is probably very long.
Jr. can be controlled and manipulated. Plus, he was probably the only “viable” candidate to go up against her – they couldn’t put up a typical white male politician (sorry if this offends – it is not meant to). They needed a minority figure to go up against the first viable female candidate. So they looked around and … viola … BO.
Always follow the $$.
I could be way out in left field here, but perhaps some of the other PUMAs have the means to start an investigation. It is the only thing that makes any sense to me.
well the certificate on his web site is most certainly not a copy of the original…the bottom left hand corner clearly says 11/01 laser…i’m working on that one…the girlfriend is working with a guy from hawaii whos whole family is still there…trying to get a sample from the late 50’s or early 60’s.
antifish
I know and this is nut that they are trying to put him in office.we have to do something to stop this but i don`t know what?
#626 shewolf
can you get a different link for that page, I want to email it someone. that one doesn’t work.
thanks
Just one reminder about letters to the editor: they rarely get published. I prepare myself for a let down, but try my best, nonetheless.
#694 TrishfromCanada on 06.20.08 at 12:48 am
I wonder if she came up with an ethics violation or something and was given the option of giving up her license/not renewing or losing it…..Doesn’t make sense that someone would give their license up voluntarily if they didn’t have to, even if they didn’t plan on ever being a practicing attorney. I don’t think renewing your license is that expensive that she couldn’t afford or didn’t want to pay for it.
#692 Evy
Well, we should go “share our stories”. Wouldn’t it be fun? Maybe that should be an action. We’d have to sign up there, but we can always unsubcribe when they send us an email.
#672 Thanks for that info and do you remember the media raving about him and everyone seemed to think he was such a powerful speaker. Not me I had this gut feeling that he was campaigning for himself back then.
Be back in a bit hi Trish
#695 pumaindy: good theory.. sigh
#695 pumaindy,
That makes too much sense. I think you are right.
695 pumaindy on 06.20.08 at 12:49 am
I think you are on the correct path. It probably has to do with $ interests, legacies, mixed affiliations and other interests (power). Add the proper front man -one that can’t be readily traced to any backroom deals with the parties of interest (because he doesn’t have a history) and we have today.
Actually, not much doubt about that!
~JGoldman1
699
They publish what they want to and they won’t publish a letter if they are supporting bo and the letter is in favor of Hillary
no that was E-maild to me the only way is for me to E-mail to you then you can send.
#636 JGoldman1
I get your point. The best guess I’ve seen is that the ultra-left wing of the party went looking for someone to spoil it for Hillary and chose Obama. Whether that’s true or not, I do not know. But here are some DP party leaders on record as urging him to run — and why would they do that with Hillary already all but assured of the nomination and the Presidency?
But for some reason, the ultra-liberal and elitist NE wing of the DP has never liked the Clintons, it seems. Another item, the Vanity Fair article on Bill was (in my opinion) designed to kill any VP chances for Hillary. There are a whole series of things you can string together. Of course, it’s very hard to know anything for sure, but no doubt more will surface over the years as to what’s really happened behind the scenes.
I can tell you, though, that it is a bitter, dirty game just as you say.
#695 pumaindy on 06.20.08 at 12:49 am
I don’t think what you’re saying is that far off at all. I think it makes a lot of sense. I think the whole deal is a lot more sinister than that, in fact. I kind of feel it’s the Perfect Storm, with a lot of bad guys’ goals coalescing to accomplish and achieve the same goal, although for different reasons.
I have to go to bed -my vision is fuzzy from reading all the posts!
Great work everybody!
Goodnight.
Probably gave it up when she went to work for treehouse. it’s about 1K a year for non-practicing status in canada.
#697 shewolf,
We just have to keep plugging away here on this site. We are having an impact, but like I said earlier, we need to move away from emailing the DNC and work on derailing the Obama Express. Of course, that’s just my opinion.
#708 shewolf
I will just cut and paste it then
thanks
HEY GUYS….
I’ve been busy, and away from the blog today. Just started reading it, looking very intense. A lot of good stuff to read over. I think the opening page today is excellent!!
I have been working on my addition, hopefully will beable to submit on the action page (or to murphy) tomorrow…. my version of a great “Post-Turtle” Cartoon to go with the joke that was on this blog last week.
#703 sandipuma
Hey there, I was asleep last night before you got here. Hope you’re doing ok
Trish – if you want that superdelegate list you mentioned earlier, you’ll probably find it in last night’s blog thread. Search for “superdelegates”or “delegates” and the word “notes” or just search for my postings, you’ll find it there somewhere….I’d do it for you but I’m about to go blind soon, unless I give my eyes a rest soon….
694 Trish
I don’t think money was a factor for her keeping the license up to date, and even with the insurance she would need to carry to protect herself it doesn’t make sense to let it go. I wonder what took place, makes you wonder.
#602 webfoot
TBD Regarding the roll call.
Goodnight
#643 EWard on 06.20.08 at 12:24 am
One more thing, most of the bills that he is taking credit for occurred in his last year of office in Illinois.
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It has been widely reported (and never denied that I’ve seen) that his mentor in the IL Sentate (majority leader?) gave him credit for a lot legislative work others did to pad his resume for his US Senate race. Some of those who actually did the work complained and have been interviwed on TV. But it doesn’t get much play.
Just wait and see. The big extreme right wing giant dragon has been in slumber and is slowly waking up. The Dems had an experienced and fierce woman warrior- she of the spine of steel- ready to do battle. Instead the Dems chose the Jr. Apprentice with no experience, an empty resume and an overflowing ego. Why? $$$$- maybe that’s what James Carville meant when he said Richardson’s betrayal was motivated by 50 pieces of silver…They chose the weakest candidate in Presidential History to send into the ring. McCain won’t even have to fight him.All McCain has to do is be himself: a decorated war hero, a POW, a champion of campaign reform, etc.
goandersen
Webfoot helped me get it from my E-mail to here but i don`t think webfoot is still here sorry
#713 antifish
I’m just here for the free coffee and donuts
#715 Hi hazel eye,
Can’t wait to see the cartoon!
#718 Barbara4Hill
That leads me to another thought. If you take non-practicing status in Canada that bar assiciation will pay legal fees and defend you at no charge if you’re ever sued for a case you respresented. If you drop your licence, you’re on your owm
ok I’m agreeing now, something’s up and we will find out
Here is a good link to find bunches of newspapers, including the smaller ones.
http://www.50states.com/news/
#658 BrooklynNY
I’ve been to the site. And I’m fairly familiar with most of his positions, some of which I like. Most not. Wasn’t really asking for clarification of his positions.
Anyway, I do agree that this is not the best place for that discussion.
#722 Trish,
Then try our newest flavor, Obama Expresso with a flaky Duh-nut!
#717 BrooklynNY
I just knew you were going to make me work for that list, I was trying to be lazy
Who has free coffee and donuts
and do you have any cream filled yum yum
the license thing does seem odd…there’s really no reason to give up your license. my father has had his NY license since the early 70’s and has lived here in SC since 1991. he is not licensed in this state because he felt no need to take the bar again but he continues to work special projects…seems silly of her, it’s always an opportunity to make extra money…guess she figures she’s moving to DC and won’t need it
#727 antifish
LOL funnyyyyyyyy, will i get stupider and see dead people if i drink it?
What I would really like to see is bo’s birth certificate. I have my doubts about that. I think the American people have a right to see that document. I was hoping something would come out in the McCain’s quest for the Presidency. But then again I think McCain knows he would loose to Hillary if bo was not born in the US. So that probably would not be made public by the Rep. party
#730 queen81
I’m starting to think something big happened and she may have been asked politely to give it up or she really sucked at being a lawyer
Did anyone see the blip on Cavuto today with the Hillary fundraiser? Even tho she was evasive, she alluded to “something in the wind” about maybe changes with ob being the presumptive dem. candidate, and Hillary may still have a…shot. What do you think that is all about?? Any thoughts…
Thanks Antifish, I am kinda smug (in a humble way)about my cartoon, just gotta get it done (!)
Just got this email:
Your Organizer, Mae, sent the following message to some members of HRClinton:
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HRClinton Meetup, scheduled to occur on June 21, 2008 1:00 PM has been cancelled. Please update your plans accordingly.
#731 Trish,
Yes, you will see dead people voting for Obama!
antifish
or MOLotta and a twist
I keep thinking of the orange and tea bag idea that FDR had and it got attention; even one of the RBC members said that they were getting little presents like oranges.
Here is my idea;
Each of us buy flip flops (I found some at Oriental Trading online and they are erasers, 144@ $4.95 plus tax and mailing. It would be something that they could donate to schools for kids and it would be a good thing once more)
Each of us order a couple of grosses of them – to match the number of supers,
Each of us mail the 144 or however many we can to the Supers with a note attached saying please do not vote for the Flip Flop candidate or something to that effect. Or Hillary does not flip flop! Probably could buy flip flops cheaply at the dollar store or something as well.
We would need to choose last names of the supers by alphabetical order, say G-H or something to insure that they all get one from each of us. This would only work if a great number of people participated.
This is the idea I had in mind earlier; go to
orientaltrading.com
and search for flip flops
Another approach might be for us to send a share of the money to Murphy, and let a small group mail them all from on town, but with our permission they could put our name and address on them…..this might be a little complicated and not doable because it would be a lot of work for the few, and may be idea of them coming from addresses all over the country would be such that we each would do our own.
Some of you offered money for an idea. Please hold on to that money, cause there are even greater ideas coming.
#720 evy on 06.20.08 at 1:02 am
Yeah, and didn’t Carville call Richardson Judas? Now we’re getting biblical. It’s making me think maybe bible stories could shed some light and help make sense of this strange election with this strange cast of characters. What biblicalcharacters do they all correspond to?
I think I’d better go to bed soon. I’m beginning to drift into the twilight zone, I think.
#735
This is in regard to the March on Denver planning groups in CA
724 Trish
That can be a mission for tomorrow. I think we have earned detective status LOL
I really want to see the birth certificate——OMG could you imagine that one if he wasn’t born in hawaii
yeah trish that was my conclusion as well, the bar is a pain in the rear, no one would voluntarily put themselves in a position to ever have to take it again
Hello,
I just registered, and want to let you know that I appreciate all you are doing. This is a great site, and a godsend. I had an idea tonight about derailing the Obama express. Wouldn’t this area get more attention if it linked to the McCain campaign. I know that it might be early, but it also might get more notice from the DNC if they know we are serious about voting for McCain. I think he could really use the help too because his facebook entry isn’t all that great.
http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=22163492717&ref=mf
I hope I am not stepping on any toes by posting. Most of my posts on the confluence blogs seem to get ignored, so I thought I would try here. Let me know if I am out of bounds.
Well, I thought I would try and be chief monitor of our PUMA article at Wikipedia. Found a perceived minor error, but didn’t fair well at all at changing it.
FYI I thought PUMA originally stood for “Party Unity My Ass” (that’s quite witty). I saw “People United My Ass” (not as clever). I tried to change that.
Anyway, I’m giving up editing anything. I’ll keep a watch out for Obama trash and report back here and ask one of you bright people to take out their garbage.
At least one monitor (me) will be on the lookout on a daily basis. But like Murphy says… I doubt we should really put much worry to the influence of such a bullshit site as Wikipedia– a most reknownly unreliable source for information.
However, on my last check of the PUMA article this notice was issued by Wiki:
This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia’s deletion policy.
Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article’s entry on the Articles for deletion page.
#735 goandersen on 06.20.08 at 1:12 am
what was the purpose of the meetup?
Trish and queen,
I don’t know if you two feel the same way, but I don’t think Michelle is particularly bright. I listened to her stumping for BO early in the campaign (when I still had an open mind) and she seemed a bit intellectually challenged.
Thank you all for greating me so warmly. Sorry I could not stay on earlier, cranky grandbaby. Have any of you been getting much email from the DCSS? Seems like I have received several. I have been emailing them back a little piece of my mind. Today I looked up the address of the senders , like retired Senator Max Cleland and sent them Puma checks in a purple envelope with a note informing them I would not support Obama nor any senator or congressman that supported him Also I have been trying to read other blogs just to see what people are saying, and I have read several places that Obama has paid for the superdelegates votes. Any ideas how to find out if this a common practice or if it is even true? Take care all an be safe
734 hazel eye
No I didn’t hear anything about that but wow is that a nice thought to go to sleep on. I need to get more info on that
pumaindy go back to lucky # 13 and see my speculation for what may be going on…especially since they are now pushing Edwards into the spotlight!
Oh Brooklyn it’s far worse then that. i have friends who went to seminary and they say to bible suggests that BO is the third antichrist
Obama’s birth certificate:
http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg
#734 hazel eye,
No didn’t catch Cavuto today. Do you have more details? Sounds interesting. Did Hillary say “something in the wind” or a reporter?
#669 BrooklynNY on 06.20.08 at 12:38 am
Is this the link you mention?
http://thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html
#741 Barbara4Hill
LOL tomorow it is then
#745 antifish
I started to read her thesis, my iq was dropping fast so i had to stop…smart is a word that will never be overused in refernce to her
Barbara4hill…
Yea, there were actually two(back to Back) Hillary supporters on the show, first the evasive lady who semed very proud of herself-she knew SOMETHING, but talked like in a trance, actually had Cavuto under her spell, he’s usually so ornary. The second lady, could have been a puma, was very articulate and showed her resolve (that work always make me think of bush) but got a good message across about the nobama movement – is growing – and will never fall in line to vote for ob. It was fun to watch!!
#748 Taffy
Yeah, it’s anybody’s guess. You could be right.
Another thing that came to mind is backing by foreign entities. I was seriously distressed at his statement about visiting all 57 states. Freudian slip?
I, for myself, have been just stumped watching this whole mess. It’s hard to tell who is really behind this fiasco.
#750 Shazam
I don’t see a raised seal on it, hmmmmmmmmmm wonder how legal it is. It looks authentic but you can duplicate lots of legal looking documents
755 hazel eye
wish I would have seen it.
#746 Tucsonpuma,
Unfortunately, it’s true. Obama bought superdelegates. That is one of the reasons we exist. The superdelegates need to be abolished. Good job on standing up to the DSCC! I’ve been doing the same. I love using their prepaid envelopes to send my letters of dissent as well!
antuifish
good night talk to you later.
good night everyone
Shewolf
antifish…
I do not know the woman’s name, but was a big Hillary fundraiser. She seemed so sure of something coming, got Cavuto all excited for her to spill. She didn’t budge, but was giving some subliminal message…
#749 queen81
I expressed that privately to my significant other and was shocked when I heard others actually say it to me unprompted. I think I am a bit loony to even have entertained such a thought, but I have heard that now from others on an increasing basis. Scary.
her name was Barbara Payton
#754 Trish,
LOL, can you imagine her as First Lady? Going to schools all over America to read to children and drop their IQs? Oh, no!!!!!!
#762 pumaindy
yeah it is creepy. i myself really have very little biblical knowledge and am one who chooses not to discuss ideas i have no knowledge of, so while I have no opinion on this myself it is certainly an idea that has its supporters here in the bible belt of SC
If you look carefully on the right side you can see a bleed through of the date June 6, 2007. Also someone on another site pointed out it says certification of live birth, not birth certificate and there are no signatures on it. Said it is what is used to get a passport, driver’s licese, etc. then the passport office break in was mentioned and the blog went crazy. One women said she was born in Hawaii and it looks just like hers. So nobody really could say if this was an actual birth certificate or just going back and registering a birth. I know my father’s certificate was destroyed in a court house fire (he was born in the 20’s) and he had a hard time proving he was really alive! He had to file proof he existed!
Whew….that’s all for me. G’night all. Thanks to everyone who helped me out tonight with their comments and suggestions. I definitely set my personal posting record tonight. LOL.
Later!
#764 antifish
Is ok, she bring the good reverand and scare the kids so much they’ll wet their pants mommmmmmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyy who’s that nutbar standing behind the crypt keeper lady, the man who’s flappin and yapping
Good night, shewolf.
too bad we don’t know an insider in the hospital in Oahu to check birth records
No way of getting that because of the privacy act.
#761 pumaindy,
Whoo Hoo! I keep hoping for something HUGE to happen!
#770 Barbara4Hill
I’m sure it will show up but i bet not til afer the election.
antifish
Thanks for the info. Is it common practice to buy superdelegates , or just Obama?
752 Bron
I just looked at that link. A couple of months back I was browsing the MSN blog and some Obama supporters were bragging about their Reb friends being 1 day Democratics. I did not know until now what it meant. As my grandpop whould have said “what a shister”
#762 My son and I have had that conversation too. I try not to think that way, but it’s hard not to.
#772 TrishfromCanada
Well, if BO’s birth certificate shows up after the election and if he should win the election and if the birth certificate should show that he is ineligible to be President….????
Hmmmmm
I may sound naive, but why do the republicans have such a better system in the state election set-up, who ever gets the popular vote, wins the state. Hillary would have won the nomination early on. Is the dem system “supposed” to be more of a fair reflection? But the delegate crap seems to blow that away. And why does the AA(affermative action) (sp) allow for urban votes to get more “points” for their vote, I feel it should be one vote per person.
When I applied for a pass port I had to have a birth certificate with a raised seal. they wouldn’t take anything else.
It just looks so plain and simple, tooooo plain and simple. I agree no signatures, makes me wonder. The Republicans would never bring this up as they know they don’t stand a chance with HIllary. It would be wonderful if we could find out something. OMG that would be the answer to getting Hillary into office if he wasn’t born here.
hazel eye
it wasn’t always like this on rep side…some of the winner take all just started this year…guliani actually pushed for it figuring he could handly win FL, NY, and CA and be uncatchable
#773 Tucsonpuma,
Yes, the supers are for sale. Hillary bought some too, but not as many as BO, obviously! The system need to be fixed!
Good night all, crying baby again. Hope to talk to you tommorow. Take care be safe
749 Think of how everyone has just flocked around him thinking he is going to turn this into the promised land. It is scary. I know times are extremely bad with the economy and the war but he has a following that thinks he can walk on water..scary
#776 hazel eye,
This thing was rigged from the start. The leadership knew Hill would run in 08. They started plotting against her as soon as Kerry lost in 04 because they knew they couldn’t control her.
queen81…
so…the election process can be changed from year to year, and who ever wants to make the change can so so, to benefit themselves?
#692 evy on 06.20.08 at 12:47 am
They’re just trying to copy McCain’s people. Some of his old time supporters noticed so many of the Hillaryites were coming over to McCain and had lots of good things to say about him; he asked some if they would send him entries to put on a site he and some of the other long-time McCain supporters had established to post articles, etc. Lots of Obamabots on that site all the time. Maybe they stole the idea. Seems like they steal ideas from anyone and everyone. Why not that one too?
#776 hazel eye
All excellent questions.
One thing I ‘heard’ about the delegate allocation (heard it on CNN, so take it with a grain of salt) is that delegate counts for areas reflect the number/percentage of registered Democrats for that area. I don’t know if I really understand correctly, but… I was thinking that if an area had a high percentage of registered Democrats, then that area would qualify for more delegates when compared to an area where most voters were registered as Republicans, for example.
Not sure if I am right or even if that makes much sense at all. It also leads me to the question: if this is how it works, then when do they do the analysis regarding the percentages. Census is only done every 10 years. Populations shift and change rapidly. So I would question whether the delegate numbers are actually meaningful unless they are re-computed constantly. And that wouldn’t be accurate if they were using old census data.
Bron – I don’t know…..Too tired to check to see. But thanks so much for pulling it up.
776 hazel eye
After getting Hillary into office our next move should be to change the system and have one vote per person. It has to be changed and we can do it.
Good night everyone! I signed up for a new Puma job, blogger liaison, so I’d better get some sleep.
This was on no quarter a few days ago. The comments below are really interesting.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/12/what-does-an-authentic-hawaiian-birth-certificate-look-like/#more-3047
hazel eye
in theory yes though it all has to be laid out and voted for by the leadership before the contests begin
You guys were talking earlier on about how people inside the dem party would do anything to not allow Hillary to win, why is there such a nasty shadow cast on her? It is known she works hard and works across the isle, and has been very good for the party…why such negitivism?
I am so grateful to have a husband and sisters who basically agree this election–first choice Hillary, second choice McCain. It would be very hard to deal with a spouse who actively supported OB.
#749 queen81 on 06.20.08 at 1:17 am
I know it sounds out there….but if I suspend my “rational” mind and just go by my gut, it really fits. In the back of my mind, that’s what I feel. It just all seems to add up. I think of all those Nostradamas predictions we all hear all the time. Yeah, we often dismiss them as being a little out there, but it all rings so close to the predictions it’s a little (to put it mildly) enerving. Then I also think how no one believed the writing on the wall before 9/11 because something like that seemed so far-fetched and lo and behold it happens. Sometimes I think this is the same. We just can’t believe it could be that devious a plot – that anyone would plot and scheme for so long to do something terrible to us. Nothing seems that far-fetched to me anymore…
Back to the AA question. Is it true the african american population in urban areas gets more than a one vote count for their vote? (and thanks all of you for explaining all of this to me)
#789 Taffy
I started that database
hazel
because she is an intelligent, assertive female who can run circles around them
taylor
me too..just celebrated our second anniversary today and sharing beliefs this important has certainly made things so easy for us
pumaindy I have also heard this discussed and the fact that “he” targeted the cities because the votes were worth more. A type of reverse discrimination since he got voters to sign up for him and their vote counted for more than the rural voters. That’s why projections as to winner in state can be made so quickly.
#791 hazel eye
My questions also. But from following the election coverage I have come to realize that either the Clintons have a lot of enemies, or they are both being smeared in order to get BO elected.
I also heard that there is bad blood between Bill Clinton and Howard Dean. I forget why, but if true, this was also a disaster for Hillary.
See my post #695 and other posts in this thread about theories for this fiasco.
791 hazel eye on 06.20.08 at 1:49 am
that’s a very good question, hazel. I’ve thought long and hard about it too…..still can’t come up with a simple answer to it. But people seem to hate them passionately. I wish there were some answers to that question.
789 Taffy
Very interesting. When I am not so tired tomorrow I am going to look into this more. Something about it bothers me.. actually the entire certificate bothers me. In the 1960’s I agree it would have been Negro of Black not Africian.
Oh my god, the antichrist thing you are mentioning! I hate to sound paranoid, but when I was reading some of the articles over the last few days, that thought came up in my mind (and I felt it in my bones)
799 BrooklynNY
I asked my husband this question and he said that HIllary is an extremely powerful woman and they are afraid of her and jealous at the same time because she is so popular
I can’t keep my eyes open anymore. Gonna call it a night.
See you all next time. Keep digging. Maybe we’ll finally get some answers.
Goodnight, good cats.
Gary Indiana needs to be looked into…the mayor, a BO supporter said the day of the primary that his city was going to deliver the state for Bo and he was going to see to that…it took 5 hours for gary to report any numbers that night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb1SGOs3jfM
Says it all.
#797 Taffy
Your post makes perfect sense when combined with what I understand about delegate counts. This is how some votes count more than others.
One of the links here pointed to an article that reported that Hillary won 11 out of 12 states but picked up only 5 delegates. Ughhhhhh.
good night brooklyn…have a cannoli for me if you get a chance!
#801 hazel eye
Chills when I read that.
#802 Barbara4Hill on 06.20.08 at 1:57 am
One more reply before I go…
Yeah, I think he’s right. I think she stirs up a lot of those very elementary/subliminal fears in some men – the archetypal woman that’s going to come along and destroy their manhood. Jung and Freud could do a real number on them…but it just seems to me the degree of animosity she stirs up goes way beyond any rational explanation. Is primal.
#807 queen81 on 06.20.08 at 1:59 am
And back to Hillary and the (a group of) party insiders who seem to be wary of her. Yes, she is extremely intelligent and so capable of multi-tasking, it is un-nerving to some, maybe. And again, the woman thing, I know some men’s egos have a hard time dealing with smart women. (but definately no men supporting hillary are that small-minded)
801 Hazel eye
I try not to bring religion into it but it appears that he has some over powering effect on his followers. This is the scary part for me…………why so many. My husband says because bo offers change, I question what kind of change and to me the unknown change ( because he doesn’t explain his change ) is frightening for me.
My husband is a loyal Hillary supporter and is bitter because of how she has been treated. My husband is very respectful of women and feels we are equal. Thank God I have a good husband.
Lots of men love her just like we do and our loyally devoted to her also – take Lanni Davis -he almost looked like he was going to cry whenever I saw him interviewed. J.Carville defends her vociferously all the time. A lot of them feel very strongly about her. I’ve rarely seen that kind of devotion to other people, male of female. There’s something about her. Heck, look at Elton John. He loves her!
RE: discussion about gender.
We have a lot of male PUMAs and I would like to suggest that we tiptoe gently here. They support us and our cause and are the good guys.
I would personally like to say THANK YOU to all of the male PUMAs here. We need you! Thank you for the courage you have to look beyond gender.
Elton John! YouTube material? Could he help our cause?
hi everyone. just checking in for the night before i go to bed. don’t know if i’ll stay because it is storming and i had a storm blow up my computer once. it is raining and the last thing we need in missouri is more rain. aaahh!
sheila are you in a safe part of the state?
#816 sheila7
Stay warm and dry. I enjoyed our chats over the past couple of days.
Good night to you, brooklyn.
About the delegate count. ob was really counting the money when he targeted the urban population, then. When the votes get more delegates…he saw himself get rich. Yet, hillary worked harder to get the rural folks on her side, but the dems were so stupid. The rural people will bolt faster to the republicans, since they are more moderate and can swing either way. So turning their back on hillary, will lose them the needed votes in the fall.
I just can’t quit you guys.
But I have to. Must go to sleep. Great to spend the evening with you all again.
Night everyone! See you tomorrow. Pleasant hunting.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080619/pl_nm/usa_politics_women_dc_2
Hey there “silly girls and guys” They just don’t get the sexism and the sleaze and the inexperience is why I will never vote for BO and will vote for McCain. Why would they come up with the ideas of silliness and racism? Are these people simple or what?
#812 and 813 too weird, both of you describing kinda the same thing – that “look” of supporters… but both of you talking about different candidates. i must’ve had too much to drink or something, that just blows my mind.
queen81,
it will be flooding here, i am in st. louis but my home is not in danger of flooding. i actually live up on the bluffs above the mississippi, thanks for asking.
pumaindy, thanks and i’ve enjoyed them too. i always have to get on late because i need to get kids to bed and such.
i have to sleep
tomorrow is friday though
night everyone
I met a lot of men while I was campaigning for Hillary. Age made no difference, young, older and in between and they supported Hillary.
Please for the men on here I completely commend you for supporting Hillary. I support Hillary because she is the most qualified. I intend no disrespect for the men on here. I applaud you all for your support. It is just so comforting to have my husband supporting Hillary and we campaigned together which was wonderful.
To all of our PUMA men thankyou for you support.
My husband thinks I’m nuts but I believe there is a conspiracy to overthrow our country. Think back over events from around the 60’s on. And check out this website about 9/11. A lot makes sense. Why didn’t the top of the towers tip over? Why was building 7 destroyed when it was never hit? Why did it go down in a perfect footprint like a controlled demolition? Lots of meat in this site to think about. And more people (military, engineers, architects, professors, senators, etc.) are adding to it, some as recently as May.
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
And how many of you know that “he” is on the Homeland Security Committee in the Senate? Supposedly from the web site it’s something about controlling government depts. Wish somebody more astute would check this out and see just exactly what it entails. I’m not sure. (And I don’t think I’m nuts! Isn’t that the first sign????
Else why is everyone else feeling a niggling something too?)
you stay as safe as possible sheila. I will most certainly say a prayer for your family
Oh no, don’t get me wrong. I am so very aware of many (the really incredible) men who do support her. I am talking about egotistical men who have a problem with any woman in charge, in any workplace. In my line of work, I meet so many of those type of guys. My husband is a good guy, has real respect for hillary. He is high level corporate, and sees guys really do a number on high-level females in top positions, so we talk about this alot.
#826 – I’m game, I’ll take a look at the website. But the thing that I wonder about is, if it is some conspiracy, how does GWB figure in? Is he working for or agin HBO? What does HBO mean anyway?
queen81, thank you and maybe say a prayer for my community because some of them will actually be flooded out of their homes.
#828 – oh you are so right Hazel Eye. This is exactly what happened to Hillary back in 1990. She was attacked like you can’t believe. They HATED her – why? because she was smart and powerful. That’s why I get so annoyed when people trash mo. it’s not because i like her (MO), it’s because i remember how hateful and angry the words were directed at hillary and bill. i hate, hate when people judge – and i’ll always defend the person being trashed unless there is real evidence. trash her because of something she said or did – but NOT because she’s smart, successful and in top position. that’s exactly what they did to Hill
I want to make this clear, because it is important to me. Men are not the enemy of Hillary, it is the Democratic party that failed her. They failed us also.
There are so many wonderful men. Strong, kind, gentle, understanding and extremely intellegent.
will do sheila, i can’t even imagine what that must be like to experience that and have virtually no control over what happens
830 prayers from this family to your community.
826 Taffy
You are not nuts……………..I feel the same way and there are more of us feeling like this. That is why I am so damn scared. Remember the remark the next will come from within. I can’t forget those words
#636 JGoldman1
You are not alone in this. I am feeling very angry about this election, and my uncle laughs and says: “You don’t understand, it’s politics. Politicians do what’s good for them. They’ll say one thing today, and another thing tomorrow.” He said this in reference to me being angry about HBO trashing Hillary and President Clinton all the way through the primaries and then saying the next day after Hillary’s speech in Washington DC that he could use President Clinton’s help campaigning.
BD
In reading an article about how the middle east, especially terrorist orgs and also ob’s militant cousin in africa, are excited about him possibly leading this country…you talked about some kind of scarey master plan for the world shifting, there seems to be a connection for big changes in store. I really fear what could happen if ob gets in charge. Again paranoia, but isn’t this what needs to collide for the end of times??
thank you queen81 and headoverhills. it is a truly devastating thing in people’s lives. especially in the cases where the levees are being breached because these people are not used to evacuating during floods and are not prepared. they thought they were safe.
sheila
I will remember in my nightly prayer
sheila
I will remember in my nightly prayer
I think Bush is a puppet. If things happening in his second term had happened in first he never would have been reelected. And there are questions about whether he or Kerry really won the election. Came down to the machines in Ohio. And I just found out a friend of mine has to re-register to vote because she was told she didn’t vote in 2004. Look at the polls now. Worst rating in presidential history. Scandals galore. His first term was pretty peaceful, remember? Then comes number 2 and boom. Our country goes crazy and we need “CHANGE” We’ve been getting that slowly under Bush. The patriot act, the law where the president can declare martial law and pretty much shut down our country without asking congress. Lots of “little” things taking away our rights. Slowly but surely.
Hey I have to turn in. Even my computer is tired as it is running slow and I see a double post.
Take care all of you and I will continue this quest tomorrow, well I guess it is already tomorrow.
Good Nite to all of you
thank you barbara
taffy, i agree that it is scary how slowly but surely so many of our rights have been taken away. the clincher for me was this primary election. it was rigged and it didn’t matter what the votes were going to come in as. it is so infuriating!
Oh, sheila7….I did wish to comment on the difficult situation you must be living in, the flood problem! I really feel for the tragic consequences people are facing. I am so sad as I watch the news!! Please understand, I am in sadness of spirit and my heart goes out to you all. some of my family lives in Iowa, my cousin has a business that was affected, but not too bad. Please take care!!
thanks hazel eye. i will take care. i’m glad your cousin is ok.
#842 Barbara4Hill said…
“I want to make this clear, because it is important to me. Men are not the enemy of Hillary, it is the Democratic party that failed her. They failed us also.”
If you are still up…AMEN! barbara4hill. This is a cornerstone message.
Many men supported Hillary and men are not the enemy. I think the sexism issue is overshadowing the main larger message we need to get out. The Democratic Party has been hijacked by thugs!
i agree alohapuma. it is bigger than just the sexism. i am almost 41 and this will be the first time i have ever voted for a republican but that’s exactly waht i’m going to do.
#826 Taffy
I try not to rule anything out.
Personally, I sometimes ruminate over the theory that the government let 911 happen as opposed to it staging a controlled demolition. But either way it amounts to just about the same thing. These theories will probably never be supported by any actual facts. Too many people argue both sides of the fence and present plausible facts. In the end, I think it just comes down to what each of us believes for ourselves.
I find it difficult not to think I am crazy.
You know the saying: ‘May you live in interesting times’? I think I would rather be bored out of my skull.
Here is another link to the 9/11 group. This has updates in June.
http://www.ae911truth.org/
I also read in a London paper that there is a youth group in Kenya forming a world wide support group for “him” for president. All nations generally have an understanding to stay out of other counries elections. That’s why you won’t see many opinion articles in the foreign papers. Still looking through my links for that one.
Taffy…
Both bush and ob (if elected) are puppets, the delegators of delegators…them choose to have a “team” run stuff for them, because both are inexperienced; what is scarey is the power their team guys have. And this is where trouble starts, these are the guys behind the curtain who run the show! We will have a 3rd bush (style) term so to speak, if ob is elected!! McCain will actually be more of an independent leader, who will handle/control the country under his terms.
Taffy, wish i understood the link between BO and Bush. Me, I think Bush has ruined this great nation and I am sick of it. Just can’t wrap my arms around McCain as the cure for this ailment that affects my great land.
And I think that is why Hillary and McCain are being forced off the stage. They are true patriots and could undo years of careful work.
Listen BHO already said no one will tell him what to do in his White House. I would be more worried about BHO than i would Mccain
I know I started this “men’s issue with women power thing” tonight. I am fully aware that hillary has caught the hearts and minds of men who are comfortable with their gender placement. And the world is great because of these men. But it was obvious, seeing many men who supported ob were the opposite, and I was sick of hearing them act/speak like fools.
Yes, the dem party let us down, and cheated the game to get in ob. And put our voting rights in the trash.
Cold it be the men who supported ob (who were the sexist voices) and the party leaders of same mind, are not able to see a woman in the WH; I never thought there would be so many in the DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!
Well i have some original archives that no one else has. But because of aol blocking my account i can’t get them. If i could i would send them to Murphy and they would blow your mind
“he” thinks he is in charge or knows he is not. “he” is another puppet to continue down the trail. Who knows, maybe “he” will be the one to get the carrot. We all know our country can’t continue this way for another 8 years. Bush had his advisors and look where it led him and what he did. “He” has his advisors too and look what is already happening.
These archives have a lot on NOName and why he was running and how he realy got started. I am hoping Hillary has them. They are a real ace in the whole. I can not explain how i got them. I do not want to get in trouble. But they were private.
Sandipuma….
Yes, ob “said” he would not let anybody tell him what to do…It is because so many “militant” people have whispered in his ear for years, all the way back to his mother(with the sanction of his father’s voice) and the list goes on and on. But for starters, as his international expertise is nil, he will continue to have “experts” cushion his plans.
Maybe channel 3 will get my aol back maybe not. But they are trying.
I worry about that too sandi. I’ve started backing up my harddrive. I came on one day about a year ago and EVERYTHING on my aol was gone. All my files, mail, everything! Had a nice message saying there had been a problem with the server…so sorry. None of my friends had the problem. I had to start totally from scratch like I’d never had a computer.
sandipuma,
that is really weird that we both got locked out of aol don’t you think?
PUMA Alert
I just posted a letter on a pro*61 magazine website detailing ACORN, *61, and Emil Jones. Emil Jones was *61 mentor in Illinois. He placed *61’s name on every piece of legislation that his campaign takes credit for.
Follow the money is real! The allegations are that *61 sitting on foundation boards “may have” directed “substantial money” to this ACORN. Why is this significant? ACORN provided campaign volunteers for *61’s earlier races. He ran leadership seminars for them and was part of a legal team that represented this group in a motor-voter case.
One more thing, *61 rewarded Jones with earmark requests of tens of millions in pet projects for Jones’s Senate District.
Hazel i would not trust Ob in the white house for 4 minutes let alone 4 years.Believe once he is in he will do what he can to stay in. He has to be stopped. End of storey
Sandipuma…
Oh, I hope your archives are as good as you say, wish I was a mindreader right now. Maybe that is what the lady on Cavuto was alluding to today, when she was smug about “something out there”, that could change this dem nominee around!!!!
Here is a link to a more current article on Kenyon youth. Still not the original I was looking for.
http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=66&newsid=124894
but now hazel a lot of those men are kicking their own butts. Believe me.
Maybe premature, but…
Assume that BO is the nominee (hope not), what’s the plan for making sure that there is not voter fraud, voting machine tampering and/or vote tally fraud?
This is one of the things I worry about if he is actually on the November ballot.
Not something to worry about until August perhaps, but doesn’t hurt to start making plans and thinking strategy.
EWard…..
You are going to get them all foaming at the mouth, their chosen one is corrupt??? How dare you submit a dark comment…now will your computer be targeted to explode?
those archives are awesome and i kind of wonder if i was traced and maybe thats why i was taken off AOL .Hey I took these and no one knew lol. I read them for 4 hours the first night and still had 6 more hours of reading
I snuck into a private meeting and sat there and no one saw me don’t ask me why. I guess if i didn’t type they didn’t see me. They were talking about these archives. One was a journalist. I do not know who the other 3 were. The writer told them to read the archives and do what they felt was right. The writer put it in a link and i coppied it and got the heck out of there.
pumaindy….
I hate to be such a debbie-downer, but the Chi-political machine is so corrupt (lived there in late 70″s, was infected by the machine, I left town and they actually followed me, a friend of mine had to go into hiding…long story). They will stop at nothing. It will take a group of someones who can out-trick their expertise.
sandipuma…..
You are a hero!!! Get Smart has nothing on you. You are keeping us in suspense!!!……………
YESSSSSSSSSS i have those archives. I had put a second copy in with my pictures
sandipuma…..
Excuse me, a SMART Get Smart!
#871 hazel eye
Wow. I am glad that you are OK. Stay safe!
I am screeming yippy
pumaindy…
Thanks, but sometimes I still wonder….
And look at our sandipuma, the deep throat of the moment. Let the games begin!!
I have had a habbit of being a stinker. Once i went into the dark whole where the hackers meet and didn’t know how i got here and went backwards out of there.
guys – I’m getting a very uneasy feeling.
This is a public forum.
Is there a way to be more private?
sandipuma – can you get these safely to someone trustworthy who has the power to do something with them?
Ok who wants them before i end up losing them?? Or get myself in trouble. Someone in there had hired this writer from the City Edition to write this
Maybe when i get up i can come in in the morning and send them to Murphy
sandipuma – I’m afraid to advise you on this. Hard copy possible? email is monitored – count on it.
sandipuma – I’m afraid to advise you on this. Hard copy possible? email is monitored – count on it. blogs are monitored – count on that also.
I am Pacific time as i am in Las Vegas
Taffy
If you are still there…I read your article, I figured that this was gonna happen. Yes, this a global village, and a leader from America has alot more power (and supporters from heaven knows where)…than ever before. It is a big chess game alright!
well i can’t print them out .My printer isn’t working. Now i am going to cry.
All i can do is forward it to Murphy because there are about 10 pages and about 25 pages in the article of links leading to everything.
sandipuma – Suggestion: offline conversation with someone you trust and someone of your own choosing and don’t say here.
I think i need a cigarette along with my pain pills
sandipuma – good luck. Prayers are with you.
sandipuma
be careful, pumaindy is right! I hope you know what you are doing.
Ok and i will do that
Yes i hope i do lol i better at my age .Unless i’m going senile.
Add to that the UN Global Tax that he is trying to pass. It’s already gone through the house and is in committee in senate. If it passes we will basically be under the control of the UN and have to send out about 45 billion dollars MORE over the next few years to underdeveloped countries. Won’t even be able to help our own people!!! And our Congress is falling in line with this???????
Hey how many are going to the Convention???
sandipuma
I was wondering about you the last few days, with your surgery. I have not been online very much, but you have been in my thoughts alot. Are you in alot of pain? Be careful tho, pain pills can put you in a place to take risks.
Not to bad but the worse is this coming tuesday when i go back and get the rest of the mass removed. It is draining now
Taffy
Congress won’t pass this, too many republicans will not allow it. They hate the UN.
I am going to a meeting with some people in Vegas who are going to Denver and we are meeting this saturday
sandi be careful. It’s sad we have to say that in this country. And backup, backup, backup. I’ve had lots of transmissions not go through. Maybe you can MAIL a flash drive to murphy.
sandipuma
So you are at home, I thought they would have kept you in hospital?
There should be a lot of people at the comvention. Gees i hope there will be a lot of police too
Taffy
I had not considered to go to the convention before this, but I am really getting involved with this crazy farce of an election process. Have you been before?
nope i am at home and i like this better. If i had a heart attack i would have stayed in or brain surgery like i have had thats different. But i am sick of being in there.Now days they don’t care.
they wrote in the Wash Post that they have ordered alot of tear gas (type) rockets, and yes…alot of police. The Recreate 68 group will be there also, but their agenda is not about hillary/obama. Do you know about them?
Went to the Rockies game tonight. Was talking to a cop. Nice young guy
Said wanted to thank him for being there for the convention ahead of time since I had heard it was going to be a mess. Bet he wished he didn’t have to work it. He said boy did he ever. Nasty things in the works. Then he shut up big time! He was distracted and guess that slipped out. And yes, they have purchased some machines that spray a pepper spray type stuff. Forget how many millions they spent. Was govt. funds. Added to the blackhawks flying around people are getting tense. City still hasn’t figured out (or else passed on) how they are going to let people come in to work and shop. Afraid to have too many cars downtown and talking of shutting down some streets and garages around hotels and convention center.
The mass is behind my nose and is draining and will come out tuesday and i doubt i will be there more than 6 hours.
Now days also women who have massectomies are in at 6 a.m. and on their way home at noon. I think that realy sucks. Medical has gone to pot. That came into effect by the courts. You know that had to be a man
sandipuma!!!!!!!!
how can they take out a mass (tumor) and let you go home in six hours??? I have been in the hospital for three surgeries in three years, and stayed in longer for smaller stuff than that!(I am fine now)
Well there will be all those ones coming who will be going to Florida against NoName. The Shalom International Protest will be there too. The Jewish community and they are a lot of them. They will be all in Florida this saturday against Mr. Noname
Taffy
You are in Co.? I love that state, went skiing there alot, been a few years tho. Am planning to strap(they don’t strap anymore, do they!) into the skiis next year, as we are building a home in Santa Fe.
Tons of lawsuits being filed because groups can’t get permits to march. There is a big yearly festival that starts on Friday and they will start seting up on Wed. So the main park is off limits Wed and Thurs. Groups are saying they are going to protest anyway. Talked with a woman at convention whose son works at one of the restaurants. He was told to bring a tent and sleeping bag Wed cause he not gonna be leaving the site. Recreate 68 has been on news. Claim this is not about violence. We shall see.
#906 Taffy
Sounds like Denver could be quite an event, and not necessarily a good one. Your story is troubling.
it’s draining and its behind my nose. It’s not cancer. It will be smaller after it drains and then it will come out. and when i can walk i will come home. I have been in the hospital for 39 surgeries and in there a lot more besides. So i would rather be at home healing than be in there.
Hazel I hate snow!!!! Never been skiing. I would roll down the mountain and be a huge snowball at end! Used to love the weather here but getting more like midwest all the time. And the midwest is getting more like this used to be! May have to move back
I had a doctor rupture my main artery when going up to my heart and walk out. It took 18 hours to get a repair doctor to fly in from Pheonix…after that i ended up with gangreen because the nurses didn’t clean my wounds properly. Las Vegas some of the hospitals here are bad
Just saw an article I’ll have to send to murphy. Came out today. They going to let everybody who applied for permits by March 15th parade and then a few other groups on 1st come basis. Won’t tell route and will only allow from 11-3. Not much time. Hope groups can handle it.
put sandbags on my groin and never gave me a transfusion.
sandipuma
Nixon started the for-profit insurance company plan with Kaiser-Permanente (sp) and has screwed the medical coverage for americans, it has gone way out of control. My daughter(26) has developed an intractable-migraine that has not abated in over a year, and she is bed-ridden(was such a happy and competant young woman) before this. We struggled with her company’s insurance plan for over 9 months to get disability approved!! They had no empathy about her condition. but we got her approved, but the paperwork is drowning us.
Off to bed for me. Dogs get up at 6 and think I should too
night TC and GB
sandipuma – I am truly sorry and sad to hear about your health. You are a brave soul.
I got sick of snow to so i am where it gets to hot in the summer
Work for me tomorrow also. I need some zzzzzzz’s
All – be well.
Taffy
Don’t like snow??? How un-rockies of you. I grew up in Northern Minnesota, have family still there, but have not returned in years. They come to us! It would get down to -40 degrees, and the snow would squeak when you walked on it. Eyelashes would freeze to your eyeballs, too. So much fun.
sandipuma
Over Thirty Surgeries? And a doctor rupturing an artery then walks out? Plus the horrible infection, man you really are a hero for going through all that! I’m glad that it is not a tumor you have now, but you have really been thru a lot! How do you stay sane?
Good night taffy and your puppies!
Good night pumaindy, sleep well!
Sandipuma…you have worn me out, you are amazing!
I better get to bed too, I have to draw up my idea for the Post Turtle cartoon tomorrow and get it ti murphy. I am on east coast time! Yikes!!!!
Bron, I’m sorry to be late to the discussion, but I wanted to respond to your concern about voting for McCain.
It was difficult for me to make the decision myself, because I disagree with McCain’s positions on several issues. Additionally, I watched several of the Republican debates, and I couldn’t stand listening to any of the candidates.
It wasn’t that long ago that I thought I’d vote for Obama if Hillary encouraged us to do so. After all, his positions were closer to hers than McCain’s are.
Two things changed my mind, however. One was the Reverend Wright story. I simply can’t believe that Obama spent 20 years in that church without embracing the hateful, poisonous teachings of Reverend Wright. And when I see the nasty tone of the bloggers that support him, I’m convinced that Obama himself inspires a lot of hatred among his followers.
But what really pushed me over the edge is seeing how dismissive Obama is. Refusing to debate Hillary when voters still wanted to hear debates was dismissive of Hillary and voters nationwide. Refusing to debate McCain now is dismissive of voters everywhere. Refusing to insist that all votes be counted in full in Florida and Michigan was dismissive. Even Obama’s refusal to accompany McCain to Iraq to get a first-hand look at conditions is dismissive.
It finally dawned on me that if he becomes President, Obama will be equally dismissive of everyone and everything that doesn’t serve his immediate interests. That’s not someone I want in the White House.
I’ll vote for McCain, not because I want him as our President, but because I don’t want Obama as our President. If I thought a third-party candidate stood a chance of winning, I might vote for someone else. Unfortunately, it’s really a two-person race, with a few other token names on the ballot.
Would I be happy with McCain as our next President? I doubt it. But Obama scares me too much to risk voting any other way.
Thank you for raising the question tonight, however. I love when people use this site as a forum to exchange thoughts and information. I know that my own knowledge and insight is limited, so hearing from other people is invaluable.
Ok back
#740 goanderson
I thought that the meet up on June 21 was in Colorado.
BD
I agree totally with you Firebelle Mccain is the lessor of two evils. Like i said before i would rather have 4 years of Mccain than 4 minutes of Ob. And you never know yet what might happen. Hillary is just suspending she did not concede. I never give up on her. She is a strong woman
You mean the Shalom International protest in Miami?? It’s this saturday.Will watch that on Tv.
Dear PUMAs,
If you could please sign this petition not to vote for HBO, it would be great.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Dems_Who_Will_Not_Vote_For_Obama/index.html
I posted a link to a very funny, remake of Hillary’s 3:00a.m. ad, which aired on Saturday Night Live. You won’t regret when you watch it. I promise. It shows HBO like a complete idiot. Hillary says: “call our allies, and show them our intelligence” he responds: “hold on, let me write it down; aha, call our allies and show them our intelligence…” It’s hysterical. Please watch it. Here’s the link:
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/play.shtml?mea=229104
This clip makes fun of HBO during the debate. This was also really funny. I think that this was the debate in Ohio.
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/play.shtml?mea=229111
Enjoy,
BD
firebelle
I was trying to go to bed, but caught your message, and had to comment. That was extremely well said. I feel very much the same as you do, all the same struggles too. Obama has a lot to explain, and I do not think he feels he has to. I just read an article about how he even lied about his frienships and the situations about being black as a young boy. He said things in his book about boys he knew that were fabricated and put them in a bad light. His friends. This was at a young age, and I believe he has issues that started way back then. And to give the honor of title to his book, from a speech that Wright inspired him, says alot about how he chooses his mentors. The last day of SD win for hillary, he told the press EARLY in the day that she conceded, so to affect the voters in SD. What a creep, he could not help himself-and to continue acting like he was such a stand-up guy. So, you hit it on the head, with an accurate dislike for such an egotistical (SP) human being.
#930 sandipuma
When will the protest be on TV? I’ll definitelly watch and record it.
BD
well good night all sleep well. ((((((PUMAS)))))))
I’m sure fox channel will have it on and other stations
Hi Sandipuma. I’m glad I didn’t get home so late that I’m the only one left blogging. I’ve missed so much tonight. But I had fun fencing in the park with my friends.
I haven’t given up on Hillary either. She may be “on the bench,” but she’s not out of the game. However, until Obama fouls out, we’ve got to have a backup plan.
By the way, my prayers are with you through your medical ordeals. I’ve had troubles of my own with a doctor messing up my knee. So while my situation certainly doesn’t compare with yours, I’m very sympathetic. Best of luck.
Firebelle
I believe there is “something” out there that is gonna catch up with him…and hopefully soon.
Ty but i feel pretty good. Its next week i will feel worse. But i will be like new soon lol
I got to get into a bed, it is almost 5:00 on east coast time, here! But glad to have had this evening’s chat.
OK, it’s off to the sleepchamber!
I am used to pain so it dosn’t bother me as much as others. Oh that protest is at 10 eastern time in Miami so i hope stations will reshow it. I will be sleeping i’m sure
good night all i better sleep to. See you tomorrow.
#937 hazel eye
I hope that you are right. CNN International put out a story today which will run in Fortune magazine next week about HBO now saying that NAFTA is really okay. It also said that Johnny McCain is already on to it. I am hoping that he’ll give HBO big time. Hopefully, like in Saturday Night Live clip, HBO will be screaming like he always does: this is unfair, blah, blah, blah.
After march 4th primaries he said on the plane to the reporters: “Senator Clinton won primaries last night because the media started going so softly on her.” And I think he even said something like: “It’s Hillary’s fault, that I lost”.
BD
#935 sandipuma
Thank you. I’ll check Fox.
Good Night,
BD
Hazel Eye, thanks for sharing that info in Post #931. Very interesting.
I don’t know if you’ve followed some of my earlier posts (e.g., #286 on this thread), but one thing I’m up to these days is putting daily pressure on Obama to do the weekly town hall meetings McCain keeps asking for. As voters, we’re entitled to hear the candidates debate the issues.
Of course, the other side of it is that Obama doesn’t perform well in debates. He’s his own worst enemy. I think he can do a far better job of tripping himself up than any of his surrogates can. He just needs to be backed into that corner.
good early morning¡¡
I am in Europe, now 10:40 am
I would like to say with the exemption of England & other few countries there is a feeling or more an antiamerican obsession around the world that as consequence they love to see hussein at WH , because they would love to see the fall of AMERICA , as the world power
#945 storytellers
Hi, I am in CA, but I am a night owl. Where in Europe are you? Vacation? I’ve been to Czech Republic once and to Slovak Republic 2 times. It was great. I loved it. Summer time is amazing. I hope you are enjoying yourself.
BD
Storytellers, thanks for sharing that insight. I’ve wondered how people in other countries feel about our choices.
Firebelle Puma, storytellers,
I can’t keep my eyes open. Talk to you in the morning.
BD
This is exactly why I can never vote for Obama. Has nothing to do with race, gender, or spite and everything to do with character and equivocation or, as Brooks writes, Obama’s drive to make “his cut-throat political calculation seem like Mother Teresa’s final steps to sainthood:”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html?th&emc=th
MaBe, great article. Thanks for the link.
Good morning Pumas, first and most important task of the day (Please sign me up on the Action board for this one):
Breathe deep and stretch long, long, long like a Puma, hold the stretch, smile deep, release.
The best way to wake
Morning All!! Off to work but you need to check out this web site for facts. Really complete!
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/06/huffington-poster-theres-virulent-cabal.html
As far as international coverage goes: I’m in Germany and when the German press and Germans do think about U.S. politics (as opposed to the far more important European soccer championships going on now), I’m afraid to say they seem to be ga-ga over OB, largely because they get their info from the American media. Meanwhile, CNN International, in the final weeks of the democratic primary, bashed Hillary and put on negative-Hillary, positive-OB spots right after each other; now they just substitute negative McCain spots for the Hillary spots. Plus they have started an ongoing segment called “Be The Change” where they show feel-good stories about American young people performing good works all throughout the world — nothing like a U.S. national media organization spouting the slogan of one particular candidate while all the while claiming to be a neutral source of information, hey?
Jennie #744 — Welcome!
Your comment was in moderation because you are new user. From now on, your comments will sail through (unless they have more than one link in them — that will get them stuck too)
Heading off to work, see you all later
I am in Spain
I think right now the news that the rest of the world gets about hussein is infested by the manipulation exerted on the USA main media groups,
yesterday I was having lunch with a bunch of friends, and the concept that they have is that Hillary is a looser , and the boy is going to win the election in NOV., they have digested the idea that he is almost MLK, or JFK, then I EXPLAINED THAT HE IS THE MOST UNPRESIDENTIAL OF ALL CANDIDATES EVER TO RUN FOR OFFICE, and I went on to explain cvr,legislative record, rezko, etc, they were surprised of the lack of information THIS LACK OF THE REAL INORMATION IS TRUE FOR THE REST OF EUROPE, but I get the feeling that this goes for the rest of the world
Morning Trish,
New morning thread up to keep your coffee and bagel company.
Take it upstairs!
Morning Pumas one and all
Howard Dean does not want to hear from us any more! Sigh, oh my!
He said that he received too many emails from our address and the limit had been exceeded. Maybe Donna Brazile can forward them to him. Ya think?
Good Morning PUMAs….Ah..I see we have an international audience…Thanks for your intrest in are so called “democrocy”..I know you all can’t donate to our candidates…but ya could send out a few emails to let them know that they are being watched…
slient 1971
I am american
just happen that for now I am living abroad
my home state is New Jersey
I AM RATHER CLOSE TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
but right now I m so so disappointed with the lack of democracy within the party
that if the boy is the official nomimee
I would vote for the old man
Bron,
As you can see by my name here, I have made up my mind who I will vote for (should Hillary not be the nominee). I too could not see myself voting republican, I have spent the last 7 yrs in tears over Bush. But I am voting McCain for several reasons.
1. Its a protest vote, I feel my vote will be more powerful against Obama
2. If not now for Hillary than 2012
3. He is not McSame, do check out their website.
4. Tax cuts hmmm let me address this. We have had a small business for the past 18years. When the housing market slowed so did our income. We went from a debt free life (exception mort.) to the most debt we have had in our lives. My husband had to close his doors and take a job fours hours from home. I am here with four children, he is there in a rental. But they cover health ins and steady income. The tax cuts for the wealthy really pisses me off. HOWEVER, I much as I hate to say this and I hate to say this. If it wasnt for a very well to do person that owns this company he is working for he would not have a job. The argument that the rich create jobs is I guess true. I can tell you over the course of 18years our small business has not created many jobs for others. We, of course are trying to get my husband back here and restart the business. We sat down with our CPA running through the numbers, do we move, do we stay, is this worth it etc…. Anyway she told me that if Obama gets in our “small business will pay between 25-30% more in tax”. If that is the case then we cannot be in business for ourselves.
5. I feel McCain will keep our country safer than Obama
6. McCain is a patriot with boys serving in the military, that counts for something. I am sure he wants them safe and home.
7. Michelle Obama keeps telling everyone on the stump that when Barak is in office. Ours lives will change, we will not be ALLOWED to conduct our lives as we are use to. Now that wouldnt scare so much except with that same speech, she tells us we are cynical people. I cant say I trust him based on his friends. How will my life change? Helping others….thats fine. But I have not seen proof that is what she means. I am just too cynical I guess!
8. McCain will be somewhat of a sitting duck with all those Dems in congress.
Sorry to be so long winded and I am not trying to convince you to vote McCain. Just telling you my reasons. But more than any of it I want Hillary in now or 2012.
We should keep checking Wikipedia to make sure that no one re-posts that garbage — sabotage!
#696 – I was born in Hawaii in 1959 (before Hawaii became a state in August). I don’t have my original, original birth certificate but I have had to order (and re-order) copies throughout the years because, well, because I was fairly unorganized in my youth! My most recent copy is very similar to what I saw posted somewhere. I know people really, really want to believe it isn’t true, but I can only base this on my own reality. I will say that my mother’s birth certificate is quite different from this one. On hers, all the information (“this is certified to be a true copy” etc) is actually on the REVERSE side of the cert. The “copy” seal is invisible to the eye, but you can feel it with your fingers. It feels like a bunch of holes were poked through the paper with a tiny little pin. It doesn’t show up if you copy it on a xerox machine, but you can “feel” it with your hands. I’m not a troll, I’m not a spy. I just think this whole issue is a non-issue – at least from where I stand. birth certificate in hand.
I got an email from Emily’s list, saying that Michelle Obama is now being targeted with sexism by the media. They asked me to sign a petition and comment, speaking out against this. Well I thought long and hard about this, because who was there to speak out for Hillary? Well I decided to go for it but I started out with,
Even though I am a Clinton Dem and will not be voting for Obama,
Anyway here’s my comment:
Even though I am a Clinton Dem and will not be voting for Obama, I am appalled to see that Michelle Obama is now being targeted in blatant misogyny. Whether I like Mrs. Obama or not is not the issue, sexism in the media is not OK. It’s not OK with my grandmother, mother, daughter or granddaughters, nor should it be with yours. I taught my children to judge a person on the content of their character and not the color of their skin or their gender. What hideous lessons did your parents teach you?
Puma!
I recommend we all do likewise, this way we kill two flies with one swat and let the media execs know, Clinton Dems are still here and growing and we’re not OK with sexism in the media no matter who it is.
Here’s the link.
http://emilyslist.org/news/media_sexism
NEWS UPDATE FOR PUMAS ON http://WWW.OBAMA-WIRE.COM
When the Presidential Seal collides with Obama’s new logo
Potential Obama Running Mate Supports McCain
http://www.obama-wire.com
#966 Yve: I signed the petition on emilyslist and left this comment:
Abraham Lincoln … You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
American News Viewer … You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
PUMA
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200806/obama-finance
This is an absolute must read article in the Atlantic Monhtly about the Silicon Valley network that created the Obama “concept” simply because they wanted to see how they could use the internet in a national political campaign.
Tragically, this offer was not picked up when initially presented to the Clinton campaign …. and the rest is history. What is chilling is the fundraising machine was not created for Obama, but as an experiment just to see how something like this could work.
And perhaps is why there has been such a deep drop off in donations now that the dirty deed has been done and buyer’s remorse has set in.
Read this and pass it on. There are lessons to learn, and they must be learned well.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200806/obama-finance
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