Okay, this is just creepy.

This video by our own N. Lee is just plain creeperific. From the Fellowship Training Camps, to the Children’s Brigade, to the glazed-over brainlessness that really does typify so many Obamabots, the man inside Barack Obama’s very fine suit has become the figurehead of a really weird movement.

Around the blogosphere, the questions have been whispered and passed around for months now. Riverdaughter, the well-known Goldberry at DailyKos, started her own blog (The Confluence) back in January when she just couldn’t take the blind adoration anymore. Her site reached the 2,000,000 mark over the weekend. And our territory on the Blogosphere keeps expanding. . .

Now the questions are reaching people off the internet. The voters of Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia, South Dakota, Puerto Rico, heard the doubts and listened to their hearts and their common sense and rejected this empty suit, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE INSTRUCTED BY THE DNC AND THE MEDIA to embrace him. They did their best. Hillary Clinton and her strongest supporters did their best. But the deck was stacked too high, the bias was too overwhelming. The DNC selected him and the media stood idly by, and continue to do so.

But the questions remain:

Who is this man? What are his motives? Where are his accomplishments? When did he decide he should rule the world? Why now?

WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN, and WHY Barack Obama.

That is the topic for comments this evening.

Oh, look! More creepy!

Created by Flineo

Ok, well this just makes me mad. The audacity of hope, my ass. Let’s just leave it at The Audacity!

Created by Flineo.

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#1 kat in your hat on 06.16.08 at 5:24 pm

I know it’s a creepy video, another video this person made was plain scary, and it’s called:

DNC HQ in CHICAGO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UViRBx7MQvg
____________________

#2 faye4hill on 06.16.08 at 5:26 pm

http://www.nymag.com/nymag/toc/20080623/

NY MAGAZINE is gonna have hillary on the front page and talk about her gains and how she is a phenounm.

#3 murphy on 06.16.08 at 5:27 pm

great katinyourhat.

all — post videos and clips here if you have them.

these threads are becoming quite a resource and archive.

#4 faye4hill on 06.16.08 at 5:28 pm

But the situation is volatile. Her voters are angry, they feel dissed, they have to be coaxed along. The question is how to do it. She is hearing from countless allies, but much of their advice—as it has been all along through this marathon campaign—is useless. A war is raging inside her between rationality and denial. Maybe she should wait a week before doing anything. Or maybe two. Keep her options open. See what happens. You never know.

http://www.nymag.com/news/politics/47837/

#5 SunnyPA on 06.16.08 at 5:32 pm

New AOL poll: http://news.aol.com/elections

#6 dcinvegas on 06.16.08 at 5:36 pm

They wasted no time in begging for donations. I hit reply and this was my message:
Mr. Gore,
It is a sad day for me. I have always had the greatest respect for you but it is now waning. Unlike your global warming cause, which I support whole-heartedly, I cannot support your endorsement of Barack Obama. He is divisive, dishonest and inexperienced
After the disgraceful way the 2005 Presidential Election was handled and the horrendous way you were treated, I thought you, of all people, would see what is happening with the DNC’s “selected” nominee and would distance yourselft from the charade.
Please do not contact me again to support Barack Obama. I WILL NOT. I will tell you what I have told the DNC and Obama’s people…
When the leadership of the Democratic Party decides to represent the people’s wishes again I will reconsider my support. Until then they will get:
No support
No votes
No donations, only
Nobama
Donna Collins
Puma Democrat
http://www.blog.pumapac.org
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex.” — 1872, Susan B. Anthony, Suffragette

Welcome modgirl329, glad you’re here with us!

#7 faye4hill on 06.16.08 at 5:38 pm

Despite having worked for Democrats, Matthews said, “I’m more conservative than people think I am. … I voted for George W. Bush in 2000.”[4]

well that explains —-

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Matthews

#8 vwade on 06.16.08 at 5:39 pm

How did you know where to send your letter to Gore? I tried his site, but there is no place to make a comment.

#9 mini vee on 06.16.08 at 5:42 pm

#6 dcinvegas

I did the same thing. I asked him if his memory is short in regards to FL. helloooo?!!!

#10 Hillgirl on 06.16.08 at 5:43 pm

Well, I have had a creepy feeling about Obama since the start. I never, ever got the appeal–I have NEVER felt inspired by this man. His speeches, to me, are phony, and his policies are weak, at best. He steals from other people–mostly Hillary, for lack of more original policy ideas of his own. And, although I have always hesitated to say it, it has been said by others–I think he is a dangerous cult-like leader. I am not sure he can handle power without including his own underlying agenda and that of his wife’s. She scares me more than he does. Finally, my question has been, who are his friends? I don’t know of any other than his political,and religious associates in contrast to Hillary’s lifelong friends. One can judge the character of a person by the company they keep! Sorry this is such a long rant, but I am just so disappointed in the mentality of this country at this point in time.

Here is my response to Al Gore asking for money:

Dear Mr. Gore,
With all due respect, I cannot join in the campaign supporting Senator Obama for President for to do so would be making a statement that I agree with his qualifications, or lack thereof, his ideologies, and his campaign tactics. In addition, supporting Senator Obama would also suggest that I condone the manipulative politics of the Democratic Party that illegitimately has propelled his presumed nomination. Senator Hillary Clinton has won the popular vote and also is the most qualified candidate, however, she has continually been strongarmed out of this race by a misogynistic media assault campaign and by political maneuvering of the Party elite. I absolutely will not vote for Senator Obama for these reasons and mostly because I do not think he possesses the experience, judgment, or competence in issues domestic and international to safely lead our country in these tumultuous times.

In closing let me say that I have enormous respect for you as a leader and politician, but, in this case I am unable to follow your lead.
With best regards,

#11 DaddysDarlin on 06.16.08 at 5:47 pm

Hillgirl do you have an email for Gore? I would also like to send off my comments, thanks!

#12 mini vee on 06.16.08 at 5:48 pm

#10 DaddysDarlin

Algore@algore.com

#13 Hillgirl on 06.16.08 at 5:50 pm

This is one of Flineo’s outstanding and creepy videos. There is another one which I have to find and post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys68HEA1DLA

#14 mini vee on 06.16.08 at 5:54 pm

#9 Hillgirl

I saw him at a rally in Denver (FEB) and I was rather disturbed by grown women crying 5 minutes into the speech–and all he did was say ‘hello’ and started a chain of ‘yes we can’ chants. It was really unsettling. He lost me the minute he said that Hillary was a divisive person. I boo’ed him and people thought I was nuts! I came there to hear him tell me about his policies, not dis her. Now I know, he HAS no sound policies to call his own!

#15 dcinvegas on 06.16.08 at 5:57 pm

Hillgirl, click where it says More from: Flineo. You’ll see a list with thumbnail pics.

#16 GOSUEF4HIL on 06.16.08 at 5:58 pm

Thanks for Al Gore link, here is my letter to him

Dear Vice-president Gore,

I am so unhappy to see your public endorsement of Senator Barack Obama.

Of all people, I thought you would understand.

While I have the utmost respect for you and your cause for global warming, I simply cannot do what you are asking. I cannot support a candidate that has used old-style politics to get his opponents off the ballot (Alice Palmer, Illinois state senate race). In addition, I have my speculations about his fund raising, large rallies to name a few things. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and yet super-delegates were forced to make decisions by the leadership of the DNC, who clearly were pressuring them to support Obama.

But what concerns me most today is what I feel is the development of a tyrant. I am concerned with the way the DNC has moved central operations to Chicago. I am concerned that he says he will bring “guns” to fight the Republicans, that he will “whop” congress.

I understand you are a career politician and therefore must support the DNC.

I am not. I am a voter. This year, John McCain will receive my vote.

Sue Freeman
former democrat
registered Independent

#17 dcinvegas on 06.16.08 at 6:00 pm

Murphy, you out there? I just received an email from a reporter looking for Will Bower to do an article. Do we have an email for him, do you think I should forward?

#18 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 6:01 pm

I only have two words for Al Gore: Et tu?

#19 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 6:04 pm

The very first time I heard No Name speak, I said to myself, “Oh, Hell No. I am not going to be preached to again from the President of the United States”!
My BS detector needle flew off the dial!
Does anyone remember that book. “Subliminal ________”? can remember the whole title. It came out many years ago. It was about the subliminal messages imbedded in tv/news advertising.
I am not nuts. I think this is partly how this is being pulled off.

#20 Mac on 06.16.08 at 6:09 pm

Go and vote on this poll, take a look at the numbers. Seems the whole world is not in BO pocket.

http://news.aol.com/elections

#21 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 6:11 pm

I wanted to add my 2 cents about purchasing the New York magazine in order to have a ‘keepsake” about Hillary. Double check who you would be contributing to by purchasing this magazine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_of_New_York_City

#22 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 6:12 pm

I came across this quote a few months ago and everyday I feel more and more that it represents my feelings regarding this entire farce of an election process.

“Beat me with the truth, don’t torture me with lies.” Author Unknown

#23 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 6:12 pm

#18 goandersen~

I have to agree with you on that~
My 24 yr old son who is a staunch Hillary supporter~
wanted to see what all the fuss was aboutand actually sat down and watched one of Nobama’s speach’s and asked “are these people supporting him nuts or what, it’s like they’ve been brain washed”~

#24 Mac on 06.16.08 at 6:13 pm

I don’t know if you all have noticed, but when BO give a speech he can move the crowds. But when he was debating with HC, he would stumple all over his words. He has a great young speech writer that seems to incorporate Martin Luther King and JFK style into his speeches. That is what is moving the people, no him.
If it weren’t for his speech writer he would never have made it this far.

#25 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 6:14 pm

#21 TrishfromCanada~

Well being tortured sure explains how many if us feel about the Nonamed one~

#26 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 6:15 pm

goAndersen…I remember the book, wouldn’t surprise me in the least! That camp is the thing scaring the hell out of me. Yesterday I posted a comment regarding the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia…14 yr. olds…turning in their parents and the killing of anyone who disagreed!
If I read it correctly, this “he who will remain nameless” camp, is to last more than a couple of days…..what is that about??????

#27 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 6:15 pm

sorry typo~ suppose to read “of” not if

#28 dcinvegas on 06.16.08 at 6:15 pm

If I want to listen to a preacher, I’ll go to church on Sunday. Thank you very much.

#29 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 6:16 pm

Amen to that dcinvegas~

#30 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 6:17 pm

Hillgirl and all – GREAT letters to Al Gore.

#18 goandersen – you are right about the subliminal messages. can’t remember the title either, but it is well-documented and used by advertisers all the time.

#31 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 6:18 pm

#23 Mac – ditto. I watched the debates and was stunned at how unimpressive he was.

#32 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 6:18 pm

#23 – I think they’re spraying some kind of pheromone at these O events. I’d rather listen to Bush and that’s saying something.

#33 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 6:18 pm

dcinvegas~

your email has bounced a few puma’s wanting the flyer you made me with the tabs~

they emailed me and I sent them copies~

#34 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 6:18 pm

dcinvegas – still looking for an email for Will? I will try to find it.

#35 IndyPUMA on 06.16.08 at 6:19 pm

hoo hoo!!!

We need to create meetups and events. Hillary’s site is still operational I believe.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/actioncenter/event/new/

What bigger message than to use her website to show her we’re still supporting her and her causes.

#36 sassysenora on 06.16.08 at 6:19 pm

#29 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 6:17 pm

have spent the time since my last post here (downthread) copying stuff to send you re: sexism. it still needs sorting, etc. but i just sent it to you.

i hope it’s helpful. i’m going to get lunch now.

#37 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 6:20 pm

#31 NotFallingInLine – LMAO! Agreed. It must be like at casinos where they pump in oxygen to make you feel high.

#38 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 6:20 pm

#21 TrishfromCanada
Yeah, and our job is to “beat him with the lies and torture him with the truth”

#39 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 6:20 pm

#35 sassysenora thank you – “lunch”??? girl, you gotta eat.

#40 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 6:22 pm

#34IndyPuma
I blog from the Action Center tab . Not the reg blogs.
I can post in those blogs. It is like sneaking through the back door.

#41 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 6:22 pm

dcinvegas:

whbower@aol.com

#42 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 6:22 pm

Will bower’s email addy~

whbower@aol.com

#43 dcinvegas on 06.16.08 at 6:24 pm

I think the book title was Subliminal Seduction.

#44 PA4HILL08 on 06.16.08 at 6:25 pm

The PUMA PAC letter head is now up on the Action Ctr (PPAC) at: http://pumapacusa.org/letters/PUMAletterhead.pdf

P.U.M.A. PAC Action Ctr
http://pumapacusa.org

#45 Hillgirl on 06.16.08 at 6:26 pm

Thanks, dcinvegas, I looked at his other videos but could not find the one that I originally saw–maybe he took it down-it was powerful. Minivee-I have never seen in him person, only on TV. His debate performances were the most revealing and I could never understand how people supporting him just did not see through the facade.

#46 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 6:26 pm

#36 I did not know that. Interesting. I’ll bet they also have cheerleaders sprinkled through any crowds which would explain his alleged appeal at the live events and his complete failure to impress via TV.

#47 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 6:27 pm

#43 dcinvegas
That was it.

#48 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 6:27 pm

oops, I meant #37 Dragonfly

#49 sassysenora on 06.16.08 at 6:28 pm

i forgot to add the videos on

http://shutthefreudup.blogspot.com/

#50 tatepuma on 06.16.08 at 6:28 pm

Well it seems that they are hitting all of the DEMS to endorse to try to raise money, too bad should have played a fair game. From the Iowa caucas I said to myself, who exactly is Senator Obama, what is his agenda, has he made it known to any of us, he is extremely far to the left; has already began to dictate, what is his goal for our nation and it’s people. He does not impress me so what is it? Spooky! “Be careful of what you ask for, you might get it”

#51 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 6:28 pm

Here’s a great example of how dismissive *61 is – the arrogance:

http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/05/obamas-chronic-use-of-sweetie-to-refer.html

#52 dcinvegas on 06.16.08 at 6:31 pm

Thanks for Will’s email everyone.

#33 Kim, I’ve been getting emails all day. They can try again… dcinvegas@gmail.com.

#53 droc on 06.16.08 at 6:32 pm

I just got finished helping out with sandbagging. Since I live in Moline, Illinois, I drove over to Davenport, Iowa to fill sandbags. The Mississippi River was expected to crest today. I felt real good about doing this because many are in need. I am fortunate in that I live in an area on higher ground and hence have not been affected by the flooding.

Many of these flooding problems are a result of the neglect of the physical infrastructure over the past 40 years. That is why some of the levees broke over the weekend. That is why we have to sandbag on the Davenport side of the river.

It is quite clear that Hillary understands the need to upgrade, improve, and even replace the decaying infrastructure. It is also quite clear that Nobama and McCain are completely clueless about this.

#54 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 6:36 pm

Hillgirl what was in the flineo video I have some saved in my favorites

#55 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 6:37 pm

#53 droc
What a great thing to do! kudos

#56 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 6:37 pm

#54 gokimfrommichigan
What video are they looking for??

#57 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 6:39 pm

#56 goandersen~

Hillgirl is looking for one of flineo’s video’s that really had an inpact not sure which one~

#58 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 6:39 pm

Afternoon everyone–regarding “speech” vs “substance, the last time I logged on at CNN.com, they have all of the debates that they sponsored on streaming video. I boycott CNN, so it has been several months since I have been there. They may have pulled them now. C-Span has some archives as well. There is a very different person in debate format than the speech giver.

#59 Hillgirl on 06.16.08 at 6:40 pm

Gokimfrommichigan and goandersen: The video was from Flineo. It was one in which the ‘troops’ were marching mindlessly and then at the end a discus thrower hurled a disc at a picture of Hillary and smashed it. Does that ring a bell?

#60 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 6:41 pm

yep I think I have that one saved hold on a sec~

#61 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 6:42 pm

#59 Hillgirl
I think I saw that one on “Hillary Speaks for me”

#62 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 6:42 pm

#53 Droc….good for you…a noble thing! I’m praying for all those affected by the flooding.

#63 bluesgal on 06.16.08 at 6:43 pm

T-SHIRTS——–T-SHIRTS——–MUGS

If you have bought and recieved a t-shirt or a mug from PUMA, go to the t-shirt comment blog and tell us all about your t-shirt or mug. Also, you may be able to answer my question I just posted earlier. THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!

#64 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 6:43 pm

#50 tatepuma – I wonder what happened to that bottomless well of O internet donors the MSM kept talking about? Did they get their allowances cut or something?

#65 Susie1945 on 06.16.08 at 6:43 pm

Just was watching ABC news – I know I shouldn’t but just saw *61 stealing from Bill Cosby – god o mighty that empty suit doesn’t have an original idea in his pointy little head – he’s stolen all of Hillary’s points, now he’s after cosby – wonder if he’s drunk the koolaid too – then Jake Tapper interviewed the “Messiah” about women voting for McCain and *61 says oh no – MY ideas are much closer to women’s views than McCains – gag, gag, choke – when did that start? before or after he brushed off Hillary & made his sexist remarks? Does he really think that we didn’t notice? 40 years ago Aretha Frankln sang a song about respect and guess what, we’re still waiting for it – just needed to vent………….

#66 Susie1945 on 06.16.08 at 6:45 pm

#63 Bluesgal – just ordered my stuff yesterday? day before? whatever – haven’t received it yet but as soon as I do – will let you know what I think

#67 kids1627 on 06.16.08 at 6:46 pm

They have nine wks and no money thats why Gore is endorsing they are having trouble with the democrat base not falling in line the creative eggheads are having a problem .[ Why won't they fall in line us ]surly roe v wade, the war, money, gas, people who will sell thier souls for a dollar don’t know where we are coming from.imo

#68 bluesgal on 06.16.08 at 6:46 pm

#66 Susie1945

THANKS!!!!!!!!!

#69 PA4HILL08 on 06.16.08 at 6:47 pm

The daily GROWLs action alerts are now going up on the Action Center (PACC) for your reference and downloads. The direct link to the Daily GROWLs page is:
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You can still email Maryland PUMA to have them emailed to you daily at: marylandpuma@gmail.com. Put GROWL on the subject. Correct me if I’m wrong Maryland PUMA.

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#70 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 6:48 pm

Bluesgal…will order tomorrow..after I pay bills.
Will let ya know…but I’m sure I’ll love the shirt!!! Can’t wait to get it and wear it while I pass around flyers!!!

#71 DawnE on 06.16.08 at 6:48 pm

can someone tell me what the freak he needs money for?????? did Oprah run out?

#72 heysandy on 06.16.08 at 6:48 pm

Finally figured out what come upstairs means. Does anyone else think we’re being tracked or censored, or am I being paranoid? Also, my name will be displayed as heysandy instead of my real name on my gmail address: heysandie@gmail.com. If anyone in PA wants to get it touch, please feel free.

#73 sassysenora on 06.16.08 at 6:50 pm

#53 droc on 06.16.08 at 6:32 pmh

thank you! that helps so many ppl.

#74 kat in your hat on 06.16.08 at 6:52 pm

I just saw a link on “Just Say No Deal” linking to “Obama WTF.”

I found out that in Obama’s original first edition of “Dreams from My Father,” Obama refers to Jews as “k***s.”

The word has since been edited out of the widely sold 2004 version of the book.
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-refers-to-jewish-people-as-kikes.html

#75 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 6:53 pm

#71 heysandy – You’re totally being paranoid. They don’t care about us or our votes. If they did they’d have trolls clogging up every stinking blog from New York to..hey, wait a minute…

#76 bluesgal on 06.16.08 at 6:53 pm

#69 SusyT

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#77 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 6:54 pm

And, Murphy, thank you SO MUCH for keeping the trolls out of this blog. They must be going insane trying to get in. You’re the best!

#78 Seattlegirl on 06.16.08 at 6:54 pm

Love the question and here is my theory. Several things came together at once to create BO.

First it is commonly said that any MAN could reasonably aspire to be President, but this is not the case. Presidents are almost always tall, attractive, extroverted, Protestant and vigorous looking. This leaves out a lot of men who also seek power. So I think a bunch of Democrat men who do not fit the mold (too short, unattractive, not Protestant, fat, flabby and pasty faced) saw the Bush puppet and saw their road to power. They picked a guy (Obama) who looked like he fit the mold and came up with the “you have to vote for him or you are racist” mantra and they sold it to a bunch of fearful sexist pigs in the media.

Now remember Ted Kennedy had his Presidential aspirations cut short by leaving his wife at home to take care of the kids, spending a weekend partying, leaving a party drunk with a young woman, driving his car off a bridge, escaping the submerged car, swimming across a ferry route to look like he wasn’t anywhere near the accident and leaving the woman to drown. So Ted Kennedy sees that the Clinton dynasty might be making more history than the Kennedy dynasty and he can’t stand that so he self righteously gets behind anything that isn’t Clinton. Also Obama came out of Chicago and it is rumored that Jack Kennedy only won his very close election because of shenanigans pulled by the Chicago Democrat machine (dead people voting).
The whole thing is just a confluence of pathetic Democrat old men seeking power, fearful and oozing jealousy over a competent woman taking “their place”. But if they manage to put Obama in the white house after all of their anti democratic BS then this country is in for a decline and they absolutely will not ever be getting around to dealing with womens issues because they don’t understand them and they won’t have to. They MUST be defeated.

#79 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 6:56 pm

#59 Hillgirl
“A Small Voice” Flineo

#80 mrjerbub on 06.16.08 at 6:57 pm

I just pumped him off one (an email), too.:

Dear President Gore, (because you won that election)
I have supported you for a very long time on many different levels, one of the most important to me is that we are both Vietnam veterans and love this country as much or more anyone else. That includes Sen. Obama and his wife Michelle. You have made a grave mistake I fear you will only realize after it’s way too late. Bless your heart, Brother and welcome home, but I cannot supprot you on thhis one.

Gerald A. Love
Tacoma, WA.

I think he won’t care. He knows how people feel and he is trying to counter it. It’s kinda weird. It’s almost like the DNC has adopted: “You’re either with us or…”

#81 mini vee on 06.16.08 at 6:58 pm

#76 NotFallingInLine

Yes, Thank you Murphy for doing an awesome job of keeping the trolls away. I can’t even imagine if I had to sidestep them in trying to keep up with to posts and the to-do actions.

3 cheers for Murphy!

#82 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 6:58 pm

Dawn# #70–Yeah, I find that funny myself. I went to the Huffington site to check out those who contributed. I was listed and I continued to look around to see the amounts that others gave. There was one address that had 5 donations from the same address given at various times. 2 of the donations were the $2300 limit and the other 3 were amounts of $1000 and $500. All of the last names were the same, but the occupations listed were things like” baseball player” and “pet sitter.”
There were other suspicious donations besides that one. It grabbed my attention because the address was just blatantly repeated.

#83 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 7:00 pm

Murphy, love how the site is coming along! You’re doing a great job! Thank you so much for all your efforts! Appreciate it so much! (even if I am going blind from spending so much time on the computer these past days). :)

#84 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 7:00 pm

# 59 Hillgirl
I have this one they are marching in but cant seem to find the one that ends with the spear~I know I had it in my favorites at one time~

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZydhWoEHCdM

#85 dcinvegas on 06.16.08 at 7:01 pm

Does anyone need a flyer in Spanish to distribute? Thanks to our very own, very wonderful loca2525, I now have a Spanish version of one of my flyers. If you want a file email me at dcinvegas@gmail.com.

#86 sassysenora on 06.16.08 at 7:05 pm

for those of you who need a break and a few laughs, read: lurking at the orange cheeto by bostonboomer

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/lurking-at-the-orange-cheeto/#more-1190

the article has some insightful advice for HRC from our frenz at DK

Why can’t Hillary send an email to every one of these sites (from justsaynodeal.com) and ask that it be posted prominently? In the email, she could express her appreciation for those who supported her in the primary and ask them to move their wholehearted support to Obama now. She can outline what a John McCain presidency would do to America.

That’s Hillary taking responsibility.

here’s a recommendation for dealing with a PUMA
I think it’s just easier to fight the “he’s all talk and no substance” accusation with a polite, non-condescending direction to check out all his positions on his website.

I mean everything is there . . . .

there are more of these gems. i don’t know whether to laugh, cry, or bang my head on my desk.

#87 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 7:07 pm

#543 goandersen (on the previous thread)

Thanks for the email address. Have sent an email to Mary to thank her for insisting that Hillary NOT be forced to give up her delegates before the convention.

#88 Beca4Hillary on 06.16.08 at 7:10 pm

Hello everyone, since there is a question at the top of this page here is my answer:
-I do not vote for parties anymore, I vote for a person who I believe is the best candidate to run the country
-BHO has relations with terrorist (Ayers) This guy bombed the NY headquaters, Pentagon and Capitol Hill in the 1970′s
-Relationship with Wright and Farrahkan (Nation of Islam)
-Wright (Anti-American)
-Resko (Corruption, convicted felon)
-His wife, cannot stomach her
-Will raise taxes, even to the middle class
-Will dissarm the military, Hillary was not even going to do that, at least we need to defend ourselfs, having strong military makes the economy stronger, look what had happened since 9-11-2001, it really affected our economy. And I am against war, by the way!
-He lies constantly, we have seen those videos…
-And one of the main reasons, I do beleive he stole the election from Senator Clinton by cheating and he will do the same tricks at the White House if elected to be the President.

#89 sassysenora on 06.16.08 at 7:12 pm

#81 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 6:58 pm

it sounds suspicious. but kids can contribute so some parents give the kids money to contribute. legally, the kid has to make the contribution herself and do so willingly but, in general, willingly is meaningless in the context of a parent-child relationship. some of the suspicious contributions may be things like that.

#90 IndyPUMA on 06.16.08 at 7:13 pm

Pelosi caving again?

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/6/16/16352/3476

#91 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 7:13 pm

Re: The DNC in Chicago video. What an incredibly well done video! Whoever said, “A picture is worth a thousand words,” underestimated the power of the picture! Great job, NLee! Thanks so much for doing it and thanks so much #1 kat in your hat for providing the link!

#92 mini vee on 06.16.08 at 7:13 pm

#85 sassysenora

The redirect them to the BO’s website is the best one. As if. Who here dares to enter the dark side…one might come out dazed and stupid.

#93 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 06.16.08 at 7:16 pm

Good evening all. Just wanted to let you know that I received an email reply from Moretta Bosely, SD from Kentucky. She states her continued support for Hillary, that she continues to send letters to other SDs (even those who have defected to *61) urging for Hillary to be on the ticket in November. She also states that if other SDs paid attention to the letters she has been receiving (100′s per day) they would be moving over to Hillary’s side. She is the only one of the SDs from the 14 states I emailed yesterday to respond.

#94 murphy on 06.16.08 at 7:18 pm

If PA4Hill hasnt posted this already,
“Daily GROWLs page is now up at the PPAC, and have added the 6-16-08 Koolaid
Daily GROWL at:

http://pumapacusa.org/growls/growls.html

Very nice job on the PDF stuff MarylandPUMA!!!”

thank you PA4HILL08!

#95 sassysenora on 06.16.08 at 7:18 pm

#91 mini vee on 06.16.08 at 7:13 pm

lol.

i know. it’s so funny bc we make fun of them all the time for directing us to the site instead of the knowing anything about the positions of The One themselves before they tell us how wonderful he is and that we should support him. then that’s exactly what they think they should tell us to convince us.

hmmmm. it hasn’t worked so far but we’ll keep doing it. it’s probably not working bc they’re dumb, uneducated, OLD hicks.

it’s like an SNL skit.

#96 bluesgal on 06.16.08 at 7:19 pm

I bought a couple of newspapers from other cities and in the readers forum on one, a guy wrote truly blasting the newspaper about OB. At the end he said “I imagine all you crack reporters were too busy recieving smelling salts after fainting due to excitement over OB’s win”. He really told them all the way thru the letter and also said that they put OB’s picture in there acting like he is some god like figure. Hey, he is helping our cause. Wonder if he is a PUMA. He was lucky they put his letter in there.

#97 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 7:19 pm

Thanks sassysenora–I was thinking along those similar views and yet suspicious to a viewer, it is legal. I recalled, though, that when I made my contributions on HRC’s site, that it asked me to check off that I was 18 or older. But again, that is a blind arguement, too.

#98 4hillinca on 06.16.08 at 7:20 pm

I wonder who will be paying for Obama’s basketball court he states he wants as President? (Not going to happen as we will have Hillary in White House). Also who is paying for DNC move to Chicago? Taxpayers?
#92, MuchAdoAboutSomething…..thank you for sharing.

#99 sassysenora on 06.16.08 at 7:20 pm

#97 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 7:19 pm

it is sleazy, though. to me, it goes against the spirit of the law but since it’s a loophole there’s not much anyone can do.

#100 sassysenora on 06.16.08 at 7:21 pm

#95

the knowing = them knowing

#101 Knoxville Puma on 06.16.08 at 7:22 pm

COLLECTIVE ACTION

#419 goandersen from the earlier thread today.

goandersen’s idea of sending “Get Well Cards” to the Democratic Party is great! Let’s all do it on the same day, say this Friday. We should send emails to every email address for the party that we have, send faxes to every fax number for the party that we have, and even make phone calls to say that you have heard that the party’s principles have not been feeling very well since the beginning of the campaign last year. Hope they get better soon!

What do you say? Emails, faxes and phone calls hitting every email inbox, fax machine and phone answerer all on the same day sound good?

#102 alohapuma on 06.16.08 at 7:23 pm

I posted this on the last thread and didn’t get a response. I need help on an issue brought up in another forum.

Did Hillary vow not to run in Michigan and Florida, then go back on her word? I’m looking for facts on this one because I’m the lone “No Deal” voice on this forum and I think I’m making headway despite my unpopular position there.

Any 411 on this topic would be greatly appreciated because it’s one point I’m not able to respond to.

Awesome job by Will Bowers today!!

#103 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:24 pm

#59 HillGirl
Did you try Flineo’s MySpace? Ask him where it is.
http://www.youtube.com/Flineo

#104 mini vee on 06.16.08 at 7:25 pm

beca4hillary, I totally agree with you. Here’s my 2 cents worth. I know that we hate the war and want to be out of there asap, but fact of the matter is, the US has to have some kind of presence in the middle east just like we have a presence in okinawa, Japan and Germany to act accordingly when something flares up. Everyone says that dubya brought us to Iraq for the oil, and that’s partly true. But another reason is that he wanted the U.S. to make a statement to all the countries in the middle east that we’re there and can act immediately. With all the heated rhetoric coming out of Iran these days, do any of us seriously think that we’ll withdraw our troops completely and leave the area (even if Hillary were president)? I absolutely feel for the military families and pray for the safety of our soldiers. But something tells me that even under Democratic WH, we still would be there for awhile.

#105 pa dem on 06.16.08 at 7:25 pm

We should have an “adopt a troll” game to retire the debt. Say, Murphy puts up a list of regular trolls for adoption, and every time Murphy blocks a post from that troll, you donate to retire the debt.

BTW, I totally LOVE the Get Well cards idea.

#106 kids1627 on 06.16.08 at 7:25 pm

alohapuma where is the forum maybe you would like some help?

#107 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 7:25 pm

I was so disappointed to hear Al Gore’s joining the Obama Gang. Thought he was smarter than that. He’s taken a huge leap downwards in my view. Right into the gutter with the rest of them. It’s beginning to look like the Obama bigname superdelegate list should be called the “Failed Presidential Ambitions Club!” I mean every politician who ever ran and failed, hoped and dreamed to be president one day is on his side. Kennedy, Kerry, Dean, Dodd, Richardson, now Gore……Could it be they just can’t live with the fact that a woman could have outdone THEM, beat THEM to the highest office? So, they’ll do anything, sell their soul to the devil if they have to, bargain away every last principle they ever had, to make sure they destroy that woman and ensure she doesn’t get anywhere near the White House! Sad.

By the way, does anyone have an address to write to Gore? I went to algore.com but couldn’t find an address to contact him anywhere. Anyone have one?

#108 dcinvegas on 06.16.08 at 7:25 pm

Hillgirl, you still here? I found a Flineo youtube on Supergram. It’s the second youtube on the page, scroll down. Is that the one you were looking for?

#109 Knoxville Puma on 06.16.08 at 7:25 pm

To my surprise, CNN’s political ticker moderators posted the following comment to the story “Obama, McCain run neck and neck in important swing state.”

Brian Knoxville, TN
June 16th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

“Thanks for the scoop, CNN. Nevada is definitely a state we’ll be targeting.

You hear that Obamabots? We’re coming to take our party back from the undemocratic and failed leadership of the DNC and the wanna be rulers over at the campaign of the so-called leadership’s selected nominee.

Puma Democrat”

GrrroooOOOOWWWLLLLL

#110 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:26 pm

#101 Knoxville TN
Sounds good to me! Let’s rock n’ roll!

#111 Knoxville Puma on 06.16.08 at 7:27 pm

#107 BrooklynNY

Al Gore’s email–or what looks very much like it could be his email–was in the previous thread today, about 3/4 of the way down.

#112 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 06.16.08 at 7:27 pm

#102. I’m not absolutly positive but my memory is that they agreed not to CAMPAIGN in Florida and Michigan. I don’t think there was every anything about not running. Also note that *61 broke that promise by running national ads in Florida.

#113 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 7:29 pm

#107–BrooklynNY–

I think I saw this at another thread/post:

algore@algore.com. Check and see if it works.

#114 hillaryistheone on 06.16.08 at 7:29 pm

#101 Knoxville TN

Did you see where they were using your name on a CNN thread. I posted it on the other thread.

#115 Hillgirl on 06.16.08 at 7:29 pm

Thanks, gokimfrommichigan, I can’t find it either. Maybe we could email Flineo.

#116 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 7:29 pm

Hey Brian, I saw your comments posted on the CNN comments section under the Al Gore article. :) Good to see you’re out there putting the word out.

#117 Beca4Hillary on 06.16.08 at 7:30 pm

Have you guys receive the email from Hillary today? She sent an email of her campaing pics, I think she wants to tell us that she still alive and kicking! Maybe she need us to keep donating and supporting her! By the way, I still send her money to the NY address..we should help her..

#118 Knoxville Puma on 06.16.08 at 7:30 pm

#110 goandersen

Can we think up maybe 4 or 5 stock phrases that we can all write, or anyone who wants to participate can choose to write if they want to? It might make more of an impact if there are constant refrains of “best wishes” sentiments. Also, maybe it’s better to do it on Monday or Tuesday of next week than on Friday. Who wants to start the work week off by being reminded that they’re working for a political party whose own members think that it’s ill and unrepresentative of its own members?!?!

#119 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 7:31 pm

#113 Jeremy

Thanks, Jeremy….Will try it. Looks good.

#120 rlp33 on 06.16.08 at 7:31 pm

I just got to know.

We all know Hillary is the best candidate and a SMART women. Does she truly feel that she should be supporting Obama? Does she truly feel he is the best one to lead this country?

She was such a fighter and now it just seems weird that she is out and now seems so quiet…..

Where are you Hillary? You still have the convention! Keep fighting for us!!!

#121 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 7:31 pm

Did anyone get this link from Hillary’s Campaign today?

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/book/?sc=1901&utm_source=1901&utm_medium=e

Wow, maybe she’s reconsidering?

#122 StarDust on 06.16.08 at 7:31 pm

I also like not having the trolls here, it make the place a lot nicer. However, on the McCains blog they are not monitored for trolls and have adopted a rather cute idea for dealing with them. The bloggers are encouraged to adopt a troll and contribute something like 10 cents each time their troll says something or one amount for the whole evening for the troll. It’s kind of a cute concept maybe we could contribute for the trolls congregating outside our door.

#123 Sallie724 on 06.16.08 at 7:32 pm

You’re shaking up the Obama campaign! Keep it up. When Obama sits down with ABC News tonight just to make sure to tell the audience why he is a better woman’s candidate (in his opinion) than McCain–and the LA Times (owned by the Chicago Tribune who are crazy for Obama) makes a story of “Women lining up behind Obama” as FRONT PAGE NEWS – the Obama campaign is definitely shook up and scared by this movement. Go get them and don’t let up! His answering you is just the thing you need to really set this movement on fire.

#124 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 7:32 pm

#85 sassysenora~

thanks for the laugh I needed it~

#125 Knoxville Puma on 06.16.08 at 7:33 pm

#116 BrooklynNY,
Oh the Obamabots hate me! Did you read on the previous thread about what the Obamabots did to me at CNN? If not, go to the previous thread and read our comments from around 3:30 to 4:30. It’s pretty funny, actually. Those crafty little Obamabots!

#126 Hillgirl on 06.16.08 at 7:34 pm

dcinvegas,
what is the link to supergram?

#127 Sandy4621 on 06.16.08 at 7:34 pm

I sent my E-Mail to Gore, what a disappointment it was to hear that he was endorsing obama

#128 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 7:35 pm

Did anyone get this link from Hillary’s Campaign today?

I got it in my email today!!!

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/book/?sc=1901&utm_source=1901&utm_medium=e

Did we all get it??? She says we will be hearing from her soon!

#129 Knoxville Puma on 06.16.08 at 7:35 pm

#122 StarDust,
We have trolls here, and have Murphy to thank for knowing exactly where to shove them and how deeply down there they must be shoved so that we don’t have to look at them. THANKS MURPH!

#130 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 7:35 pm

#107 Brooklyn NY – still here?

Honorable Al Gore
2100 West End Avenue
Suite 620 Nashville, TN 37203
Fax: 615-327-1323
Phone: 615-327-2227

#131 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:36 pm

#115 HillGirl
http://www.youtube.com/Flineo

ask Flineo

#132 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 06.16.08 at 7:36 pm

#121. I got that email and what is interesting is the way she signed it “Thank you so much — I’ll be in touch soon. ” Hillary. I could read a lot into those words.

#133 dcinvegas on 06.16.08 at 7:36 pm

Hill girl http://supergram.blogspot.com/

#134 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 7:36 pm

#105 pa dem

Loved the Adopt a Troll idea. And we could look for posts on other sites by our adopted troll and be sure to let them know we’re following their career.

#135 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 7:37 pm

#93 MuchAdoAboutSomething

Great to hear you got a reply from Moretta Bosely, SD from Kentucky. Even if the others aren’t responding yet, all those emails they’re getting have got to be having an impact. And if they keep on coming and coming, long after we were “supposed to come around and get on board,” I’m sure they’ll become a lot harder and harder to ignore. From a little peep to a might roar……….

#136 mcr on 06.16.08 at 7:37 pm

Re: Indoctrination

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11012254

“Welcome to Camp Obama. It’s a camp for adults — mostly young adults and college students — who are hoping to hone their political skills and learn the basics of organizing for a certain barnstorming presidential candidate.”

“Our campaign has had the benefit of having a lot of enthusiastic volunteers, and so we wanted to make sure that they had real concrete ways to be involved and organize in their local communities. We go through everything from canvassing, phone banking, volunteer recruitment, our campaign message, how to develop an organization locally,” she says.

#137 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 7:38 pm

# 117 Beca4Hillary… Sorry.. I didn’t see your post about Hillary…

What the hell does she have to lose by running as an Independent… the whole party is snubbing her?

#138 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 7:39 pm

#133 BigCatLover
LOL. We take an interest in the future of our adoptees, we’re good mama’s and papa’s.

#139 Knoxville Puma on 06.16.08 at 7:39 pm

goandersen, I have to step away. We will advance the “get well cards” action. I need to go horizontal voluntarily and now before I fall down…

#140 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:39 pm

#135 mcr
send it to murphy

#141 StarDust on 06.16.08 at 7:40 pm

# 128
Oh I’m fully aware of what Murphy is doing with those pesky critters, that’s why this site is such a joy to be at.

#142 rlp33 on 06.16.08 at 7:40 pm

Yes, Hillary please be in touch soon with some GREAT news.

Does she even know about this site I wonder?

I got the email too….. : )

Keep fighting for us Hillary…OFF TO THE CONVENTION!!!

#143 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:40 pm

#138 Knoxville
ok. take it easy, B R E A T H E

#144 DaddysDarlin on 06.16.08 at 7:42 pm

I see Patty Solis from Hillary’s campaign has been chosen by BO as the yet to be named Vice-Presidents Chief of Staff.

Now I know she was replaced by Hillary, so I don’t expect Hillary to be the VP, not unless she wants her Presidential bid, now or in the future, denied. She of course wouldn’t be VP knowing full well that the incumbent would win the nomination.

Anyway just thought it kind of funny that Patty would go over to BO’s side, they all have their own agenda and it doesn’t seem to matter who is signing her paycheck. I guess that is all it was with our girl, a paycheck.

Money talks and Bulls**t walks, Keep on Truckin Patty!

#145 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 7:42 pm

#129 Dragonfly

Yes, I am. Hey, thank you so much for the Gore contact info! Between you and Jeremy #113, I’ve got all bases covered now. Much appreciated.

#146 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 7:42 pm

did y’all see this from webfoot on the other thread?

“I’m in for the Get Well cards tomorrow. I am going to include a teabag wrapper or coupon and note the card with a “Welcome to the 21st Century version of the Boston Tea Party.”’
sorry I am out of the loop – trying to multi task (not successful!)

#147 alohapuma on 06.16.08 at 7:43 pm

#106 kids1627

PLEASE do come on over and help. It’s the Women In Networking group on Ryze. I’ve been a member for about three years and love the group. They are sort of my “own little corner in my own little chair” if you’ll excuse the Cinderella reference. WOW are they falling for the rhetoric.

There are big enough and established enough to be worth the effort in my opinion.

Thanks

#148 pa dem on 06.16.08 at 7:43 pm

Knoxville PUMA: Since Murphy is doing a lot of very prize-worthy work in keeping the trolls away, we should do something to support that. If you don’t like the “adopt a blocked troll” idea, help think of something else. Totally open to ideas here :-)

#149 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:43 pm

#133 @ 105 pa dem
yeah, we can collect them like “Pop Beads” and hang them around Pelosi’s neck

#150 Hillgirl on 06.16.08 at 7:44 pm

dcinvegas,
Thanks, but that wasn’t it. Thanks for trying!

#151 IndyPUMA on 06.16.08 at 7:44 pm

Anyone have email addys for HC campaign or in and around her circle?

I think we should send her the list of links on JustSayNoDeal.

#152 mcr on 06.16.08 at 7:45 pm

http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/540781,CST-NWS-camp04.article

‘Ruthless’ for Obama

September 4, 2007

BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Political Reporter/apallasch@suntimes.com
“The next tip is to be absolutely ruthless,” Jocelyn Woodards tells the campers. “We want you to be determined, ambitious, take a risk.”

“No toasted marshmallows here. This is the second day of Camp Obama, a two-day (sometimes four-day) intensive training course in becoming an activist to help get Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) elected president”

“Saul Alinsky wanted results. Rivals of Obama know that while he may at times appear to channel Martin Luther King Jr., his methods sometimes give evidence of his allegiance to Alinsky, who shunned starry-eyed idealists and recommended purging do-gooders from organizations. Alinsky wanted results. And his methods often forced the hands of elected officials.”

#153 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 7:46 pm

#88 Beca4Hillary

-His wife, cannot stomach her

ok, I’m cracking up here, that has to be the best reason ever! LOL, wow that was funny. Thank you Becca, I needed the laugh today.

#154 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:46 pm

#145 Dragonfly
I like it.

#155 pa dem on 06.16.08 at 7:46 pm

#148 goanderson exactly :-)

#156 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 7:47 pm

#104 mini vee – I agree with you. I have family members who have served tours in the Middle East, and had a post partum fit of rage at W in ’04 after my son’s birth because of the war. Robert Fisk, by the way, wrote a fantastic book on the conflict between “western” civilization and the Middle East. Anyway, my military family members are committed and ready to return – whatever it takes – to stop the Muslim fanatics.

#157 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 7:47 pm

Has anyone thought about the suggestion of a massive across the country – all blogs combined “On the Street” PUMA/JUST SAY NO flyer hand out letting the world know we are here?

The new MSM/OBAMA propaganda is that he is winning the “Internet War”

#158 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:48 pm

#151 mcr
I guess they won’t be singing kum by ya.

#159 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 7:49 pm

#143 DaddysDarlin – I hope you’re right. If Hillary meant by ‘getting in touch’ that she will run for VP I would not be a happy camper.

#160 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 7:49 pm

Ok all~I have to go do a breathing treatment and eat dinner~

It’s pretty bad when my daughter calls from work and say’s “MOM SLOWLY NOW~STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER”~

LOL~i do have about 10 sites & 3 word windows open at the moment!

My family of Pumas are awesome & Murphy your the best~see you all later!

#161 SARTOM on 06.16.08 at 7:52 pm

NAMING PATTY SOLIS, IS THE NOBAMA’S WAY OF SAYING HILLARY WILL NOT BE HIS VP CHOICE……

WELL HE IS NOT MINE…..

AND I CONTINUE TO WISH UPON A STAR THAT HILLARY IS OUT THERE SOMEWHERE STRATEGIZING…..

#162 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:52 pm

#146 Dragonfly
what webfoot?

#163 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 7:53 pm

#94 murphy – right on! excellent work on the growl action page! we have such talented people among us.

#164 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:53 pm

#161 SARTOM
You can bet your pantsuit she is!

#165 pa dem on 06.16.08 at 7:53 pm

wontbackdown: I think the massive flyer handout should take place once we have our t-shirts :-)

#166 murphy on 06.16.08 at 7:53 pm

Added another creepy video above — yikes!
Thanks to Flineo.

DCINVEGAS are you supergram??

#167 IndyPUMA on 06.16.08 at 7:54 pm

For those that got an email from Hillary. I hope when she say’s “I’ll be in touch soon” she doesn’t mean she’ll go campaigning for BO or accept a VP position.

#168 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 7:54 pm

#165 pa dem… Okay thanks… Good Idea! love the shirts!

#169 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 7:54 pm

#152 mcr – I wish they’d just get on with it and call them ‘Obama Youth’ already. I wonder when they’ll start rolling out a program for block captains that can rat out dissenters.

#170 Hillgirl on 06.16.08 at 7:56 pm

#152 Minivee, Frightening. Anyone remember the Hitler youth?

#171 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:56 pm

#167 IndyPuma
That would be so beneath her! I doubt it. Whatever the message is, read between the lines.

#172 EWard on 06.16.08 at 7:57 pm

PUMA Alert
New Jobs
Obama campaign announces a bunch of new senior hires for the general election:

Constituency Director: Brian Bond – formerly LGBT Outreach Director at the DNC
National Field Director: Jon Carson – formerly Obama for America Voter Contact Director
Senior Advisor to the Campaign and Chief of Staff to Michelle Obama: Stephanie Cutter
Industrial States Regional Director: Paul Diogardi – formerly Political Director for the Democratic Governor’s Association.
Battleground States Director: Jen O’Malley Dillon – formerly Iowa State Director for John Edwards for President
Chief of Staff to the Vice Presidential Nominee: Patti Solis Doyle
Latino Vote Director: Temo Figueroa – formerly Obama for America National Field Director
First Americans Vote Director: Wizipan Garriott
Northeast Regtional Director: Eureka Gilkey – formerly Obama for America Deputy Political Director
50-State Voter Registration Director: Jason Green – formerly Obama for America political and field staff
Campaign Chief of Staff: Jim Messina – formerly Chief of Staff to Senator Max Baucus
LGBT Vote Director: Dave Noble – formerly of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force
West Regional Director: Matt Rodriguez –.formerly Obama for America New Hampshire State Director
Senior Advisor: Michael Strautmanis
African American Vote Director: Rick Wade
Patti Solis Doyle, former campaign manager for Hillary Clinton, as the chief of staff-designate for the vice presidential nominee seems like a noteworthy pick. Stephanie Cutter was a key spokesperson for John Kerry’s campaign and before that was Communications Director for Ted Kennedy, so that’s a pretty high-powered choice to work with Michele Obama.

Does anyone know have additional information about his GE team?

#173 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:57 pm

#170 Hillgirl
no, I’m too young. just kidding

#174 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 7:57 pm

#170 You nailed it.

#175 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 7:58 pm

#118 Knoxville Puma
If you send them stuff I think it would be great if they got a batch bright and early Monday AM when they come in for the week and then Thursday and Friday too so they have something to think about (what a pathetic, spineless sell-out they are, for example) on the weekend. Just a thought…..

#176 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:58 pm

#172 EWard
Oh dear, that Brian of LBGT outreach is going to get such a B—–H Slapping!!

#177 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 7:58 pm

#128 wontbackdown–thanks for providing the info regarding Hill’s photo album. I did not get the email, unfortunately. I unsubscribed due to my email address, etc. Could you copy and paste the mail here so we all can read it. Thanks!

#178 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:00 pm

#172
and Dave Noble too.

#179 catsrlove on 06.16.08 at 8:01 pm

I have been very bothered by BO and his fanatic followers since the very beginning. I told my husband that this looked like Jim Jones all over again.

The first time I ever heard of BO was when he gave the keynote speech at the Democratic convention in 2004. Nothing after that. Then I read that he was running for President.

I watched a few of the “debates” when there were like 7 men and Hillary. All of them blasting her. She stood her ground like I knew she would. Then they start dropping out. Pretty soon it was just this guy with big ears and 2-1/2 years experience in the Senate..

I was certain that Hillary would beat him by 50% of the vote. Then the divide got smaller. I wondered what was going on. How could anyone fall for that man’s smoke and mirrors act? When he and Hillary debated, she beat him so badly. I was sure that the American people would see how inexperienced he was.

I have to feel that there is some powerful group behind him that we know nothing about. That scares me to death. I know that the DNC selected him. It was pure sexism. Still who are these people that donated so much money to him?? I am afraid we will never know until it is too late.

We must become larger and stronger. We have to be the ones that make sure he is never elected.. I believe we can..

I see there are a number of people on here from PA. I live in Oil City. Anyone near me??

Thank you so much for this forum. I am still sad and angry about what the DNC did, but know I have like minded people to discuss it with..

#180 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:01 pm

#172
Of course they follow the “stupid path suit” : get a man to herd up all the dykes! LOL!

#181 Hillgirl on 06.16.08 at 8:01 pm

Interesting editorial from a few months back
“It’s all about him”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/25/opinion/25kristol.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

#182 Hillgirl on 06.16.08 at 8:03 pm

Goanderson,
Me too! Just read about it in the history books!

#183 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:03 pm

#175 Knoxville
yes, let’s brainstorm some more on this for good catch phrases. Nothing rude.

#184 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 8:08 pm

#102 alohapuma

Sorry for the delayed response… cooking and cleaning.

Everything I have read indicates both candidates signed an agreement that they would not campaign in Florida and Michigan. There was no agreement to not run there.

I say this with certainty because I was confused on the reports that Obama’s name was not on the Michigan ballet, so I researched why not. Another mislead by the media, he removed his name willingly. But yet he still advertised in Florida by taking a national ad, knowing it would be aired prior to the Florida vote.

The was no ruling stating candidate’s could not run in Michigan and Florida.

Hope this helps

#185 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:09 pm

#175 Knoxville

Best Wishes for a speedy recovery from your bout of disassociation.

#186 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 8:09 pm

#172 and #180 LOL!!!

#187 SARTOM on 06.16.08 at 8:10 pm

The second creepy video shows the results of inspirational motivational speakers. There are lots of vulnerable people in this world just waiting to climb aboard a moving train. It depends on where the train is going. I think we are beginning to see the places where this train is heading. It is too bad that so many needy youth climbed aboard.

The train needs to be stopped.

#188 savio on 06.16.08 at 8:12 pm

On Lou Dobbs tonight reports
Now al gore is supporting bo and tells people to donate; yep right?
This is they last card to play, we are getting to them
At the same time Lou reports this news; the Democratic Party is 15 million short for the convention
Lots of people are changing their party affiliation
Stays strong do not give up the elite want to break us but they just don’t know
Ill vote McCain and I hope the Democratic Party loose the election becouse they are unfair

Go McCain
Savio

#189 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 8:12 pm

Whoever makes it to the White House… I hope they make George Bush and Dick Cheney as Ambassadors to IRAQ/IRAN, respectfully.

#190 luispr08 on 06.16.08 at 8:12 pm

First time in the blog proud to support our only democratic candidate for president Hillary Clinton. NOBAMA Never . Love You! Pumapac Family

#191 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:13 pm

#186 Dragonfly

you mean #176 and 180 in response to #172?
well. LOL!

#192 murphy on 06.16.08 at 8:14 pm

two more by Flineo up on the front page.

Blog these videos Pumas.

I think I’ll be angry enough to stay up all night! thank goodness, because there is a LOT to do.

#193 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 06.16.08 at 8:14 pm

luispr08. Welcome. We’re glad your hear. Jump in with your comments

#194 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:14 pm

#188 savio
Wait. They still have Barbara Wah Wah to wave at us.

#195 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:16 pm

#192 Murphy
Any thing I can help you out with, just let me know.

#196 mcr on 06.16.08 at 8:16 pm

#158 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 7:48 pm
Theory is based on Marxism & Activist Saul Alinsky. Scary!

#197 IndyPUMA on 06.16.08 at 8:17 pm

http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/

New PAC in the wings….

#198 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:17 pm

#158 mcr
Oh, I know. Google this guy: William Furd Muhammad. Farakan and Malcom had ties to him. Very creepy and scary.

#199 cjv on 06.16.08 at 8:17 pm

goanderson, I’ve been catching up on the posts. It seems that no one was able to respond to your inquiry to #19. I remember the book well – “Sublimial ADVERTISING” was its title. I read that book and it did discuss embedded pictures to unconciously persuade consumers to purchase products. Nothing seems sublimial anymore. Just blatant brainwashing.
Please excuse any typos I may have.

#200 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 8:20 pm

#179 catsrlove on 06.16.08 at 8:01 pm –
My observations are a “cut and paste” of yours. However, I say the “clouds breaking, the skies opening, and the celestial choirs” going fanatical after New Hampshire…before SC. When Oprah announced her backing, Chuck Todd over at MSNBC and his “First Read” groupies were let off their leashes. That is when the “race” flap began to enter the picture. At that time, CNN was still being fairly non-biased. Right up to the SC primary, that is when I began to see CNN tilt. My observation was that they were more after BC than covering Hillary. It then became a daily assault on her and triumphed news regarding *61. From then on, according to the MSM, she couldn’t do anything right. I think we all remember what happened during the next few months. After her Super Tuesday Triumphs, the spin control and other factors: Kennedy, Kerry, Dean, and Pelosi started stepping in making “no a factor” type of news/events. The guy was planned since 2004 and no one was going to change it. That is my take.

#201 webfoot on 06.16.08 at 8:20 pm

#96 bluesgal “I imagine all you crack reporters were too busy recieving smelling salts after fainting due to excitement over OB’s win”. Thank you so much for sharing that quote from the newspaper. I laughed so hard and called the rest of my family over to read it.

#202 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:20 pm

#199 cjv
I know it is blatant and I still think their are subliminal messages inbedded for the Kool-Aid Kamp Fellows

#203 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 8:20 pm

that second video clip at the top from Murphy is very very creepy, y’all.

#204 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 8:22 pm

#200 Jeremy – ditto. The power of Oprah.

#205 mccaindemo on 06.16.08 at 8:23 pm

WOW! The DNC video was unbelievable ..is it possible to find more outlets for it?? How can it reach more people? So many of us feel that we are witnessing a ‘despot’ in training and this drives the point home. Also send a letter to Al Gore..wonder what the O gang have on him? Sent donations to Loretta Sanchez in California,she is running for Barbara Boxers spot and has a good chance I am told by my Calif friends..also $ to EdOreilly in Mass ,would love to help unseat Kerry..time to clean up the Party and vote em out!! Pelosi needs to go ,wish I felt Cindy Sheehan had a chance…such a do nothing congress, I think I wsted my vote in 2006. NOT THIS YEAR! Hey Nobama…Bill Crosby called and he wants his cause back, how pitiful ..does Nobama have an original thought in his head? Shame.

#206 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 8:23 pm

To those that want the Hillary email:
(It was on her official HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT letterhead)

June 16, 2008

Dear _______,

Together, you and I changed America forever. We touched so many lives over the course of this campaign, and I can’t thank you enough for the support you showed me. I met so many wonderful people out on the trail, and I wanted to share some of those memories with you.

I hope you’ll take a moment to view our online album with some favorite photos from the campaign.

Link: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/book/?sc=1901&utm_source=1901&utm_medium=e

Thank you so much — I’ll be in touch soon.

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton

#207 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:23 pm

#197 IndyPuma
Thanks for the new link.
Wooooooooooo Whooooooooo!!

#208 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 8:24 pm

Re” The email from Hillary.

I got one too. I’m taking it this way. She’s taken the trouble to write, which says she’s still out there, ready, able and willing to communicate with us.

So, if she WANTED to encourage us to support the child wonder, she would have said so! We’d be getting all kinds of emails from her! I mean, c’mon, during the campaign we got emails almost daily!

I think the lack of any mention, NOT A WORD, about child wonder in her email message says it all.

The woman is a lady. Through and through.

I just flipped through the link she provided in the email, with all the pictures from the campaign, etc.

What I say to you all, is, go through the “book of pictures” she sent and look at the pictures. I’d say that’s where her message to us is being conveyed. Look at each picture and read between the lines. What does it bring up for you? What was happening then? Any signs or slogans you see I’d look at closely.

Two things struck me heavily. #1. There’s a picture of two women sitting with their back to the camera at a Clinton rally. They both have on T-shirts, with the slogan “Hillary’08,” “Hillary ’08″ staring you right in the face. #2. A picture of the June 7 “18 Million Cracks” speech….Hmm….NOT one enthusiastic word about wonder boy.

When she read from her notes about supporting Obama and working hard for his election, all I could think of is the videos the Iraqis put out in the early days of Gulf War 1, when they’d captured American, French and British pilots and wanted to parade them in our faces for propaganda purposes. I didn’t believe a word those pilots said about how great the Iraqis were. Having a reeeaaall hard time believing Hillary, or anyone in their right mind, could want this guy local elected dogcatcher, let alone president!

It kind of reminds me how people in communist/fascist countries have to communicate with each other in the press, TV, radio, etc., through all kinds of cryptic messages. They can’t be straightforward cause the press is controlled by the state, etc., so they devise all kinds of ingenious ways of communicating their truth. People I’ve known from former communist countries in Europe, South/Central America, etc. are really good at seeing through the hype and propaganda in the media. It always amazes me how quick they are to see through things, while we often just let them pass, not even noticing…..

It sure was wonderful to get a message from our Hillary. :)

#209 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 8:24 pm

say=saw
no=not

#210 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 8:24 pm

#102 alohapuma – addendum to #184 trishfromcanada – There was a concerted effort to get people to vote uncommitted if they wanted O or Edwards, but mainly O; so there was campaigning going on by O supporters. I’m sure the O campaign itself had zero to do with any of the MI campaigning they had pledged to forgo. They would never do that. Never.
http://ourmichigan.blogspot.com/2008/01/uncommitted-is-vote-for-obama-in.html
http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/michiganprimary114

#211 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 8:25 pm

the third video is brilliant, Murphy. Thank you for posting. who is the talented producer? Kudos.

#212 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:27 pm

#208 Brooklyn
Right on. When HRC started pushing the party thing a while ago, that was to appease the party.

#213 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 8:28 pm

Thanks BrooklynNY #208 and wontbackdown #206. Appreciate it!

#214 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 8:28 pm

#208 BrooklynNY… I thought the same things too… What the hell does she have to lose? The DNC support? Being offered the VP slot? The respect of Obama and Michelle?

#215 cjv on 06.16.08 at 8:29 pm

#202 goanderson
And I do agree with you. And it is scary. Now the O camp is feeding Kool-Aid to children. Political processes and its science should only have a total ojective, fact based approach, not to help campaign for a given individual. O is reminding me of Hitler more and more.

#216 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 8:29 pm

#162 goandersen – check out #210 webfoot -s/he is here now. Webfoot, tell everyone about your idea re: 21st century Boston Tea Party.

#217 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 8:33 pm

Read the goals of the new Denver group link in #197 (IndyPUMA) above and also read the article linked at the bottom of the page about how inept Obama is and the Hillary supporters getting the last laugh.

#218 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:34 pm

Repost

I wanted to add my 2 cents about purchasing the New York magazine in order to have a ‘keepsake” about Hillary. Double check who you would be contributing to by purchasing this magazine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_of_New_York_City

#

#219 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 8:36 pm

Well…….. now after getting her email:

You REALLY want to know how I FEEL ABOUT IT??? They want her (and us) to fall in line for even an “offer” of that “prized” VP offer!

… those slime-ball, cheating, lying, communistic, nut-case control freak, undemocratic morons!

Whew! I feel a touch better for the moment. Pardon me fellow PUMAs, I had a Harriet moment.

#220 deenj on 06.16.08 at 8:37 pm

This is back from December but still a must read.

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002589.php

#221 savio on 06.16.08 at 8:37 pm

who is *61?

#222 SergeiRostov on 06.16.08 at 8:38 pm

catsrlove on 06.16.08 at 8:01 pm
The first time I ever heard of BO was when he gave the keynote speech at the Democratic convention in 2004. Nothing after that. Then I read that he was running for President.

This was my experience as well. Of course now we know it’s because he was – by his own admission, mind you – too busy preparing to run and running for President to do much of anything else.

And although it didn’t occur to me at the time, in retrospect I wonder if that “One America” speech – coming as it did at the same time Edwards was speaking about “Two Americas” – did anything to undercut the Dem’s chances in ’04 by undercutting that message.

#223 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:38 pm

#215
We need to write down all input for the get well card, including yours about the Tea Party.
The plan is to do another mass email, fax and snail next week.
keep your ideas.

#224 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 8:38 pm

Re that NYT article… right click on her photo, copy and paste the article and forget about putting one more dime into any news media or their advertisers until JUSTICE Prevails!

#225 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 8:38 pm

goAndersen, Brooklyny,
check out the picture in New Hampshire…read it again.

#226 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 8:39 pm

I think we should send them a “Sorry for your recent loss” card.

#227 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:39 pm

#218 wontbackdown
ok Harriet. LOL!

#228 pa dem on 06.16.08 at 8:40 pm

#218 What email? The only email I got said to look at the pictures….

#229 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 8:40 pm

Well i don’t have the flyer anymore i have lost everything its on aol and i can’t get it. I am on NetZero for awhile and i don’t like it. I sent aol a letter.This is crzy. Somethings wrong.I was hardly on here just for a very short time yestarday,and lost my aol that i have had for 12 years

#230 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 06.16.08 at 8:41 pm

Savio – from what I was able to deduce *61 = Obama. He was born in 1961

#231 alohapuma on 06.16.08 at 8:41 pm

184 TrishfromCanada

Thanks for the 411. Appreciate it!

#232 mcr on 06.16.08 at 8:43 pm

#192 murphy on 06.16.08 at 8:14 pm

Videos by Flineo are Creepy! Too close to home and the 2008 election.

—am starting to e-mail & blog the videos.
Thanks

#233 SergeiRostov on 06.16.08 at 8:43 pm

It’s funny, though, I read that Al Gore said he was going to keep who he was endorsing a secret, to the extent that he would even keep his vote at the convention that way…was that account incorrect, or did e change his mind?

I haven’t written my letter to him yet, but I am going to point out specifically that Obama doesn’t care if Blackwater et al stay in Iraq (wasn’t that something Al objected to in one of his speeches?)?

#234 Roxy in cali on 06.16.08 at 8:45 pm

Do we have the link to the MSM /Puma interview yet?

#235 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 8:45 pm

#218 wontbackdown–that is one of the purposes of our group/family. When you need to talk, we can listen and offer feedback. This is my opinion and gut feeling regarding the VP. I think that is part of the deal. He may (have to) offer it to her. I may be wrong. But if he does, I hope she tells him: “I will have to think about it, Barack.” “Oh and one other thing,(sweetie) don’t call me, I will call you.” (A big Hill smile) :)

#236 bluesgal on 06.16.08 at 8:46 pm

#201 Webfoot

I know, I laughed too. His whole letter cracked me up. I wrote the same newspaper an e-mail letter about PUMA. I hope they put it in their paper. I am going to e-mail that letter to different ones and get the word out about PUMA. Maybe some of them will print our letters.

#237 ontherocks on 06.16.08 at 8:46 pm

Hello fellow Pumas. How is everyone tonight?
I got all my letters sent off this morning. The blog is full good posts tonight.
I am very sad about Al Gore supporting Obama. Thank you for posting his email. I sent him an email. I don’t think it will make him change his mind but I hope he gets enough emails and letters, that it makes him wonder if he made the right choice.

#238 webfoot on 06.16.08 at 8:46 pm

My idea for the “21st Century Boston Tea Party” came from combining two ideas I read in the blog. One was the idea of sending the Get Well cards. The other was a blog someone wrote (I don’t recall who) that related his/her ancestors who were founders of this country. The blog continued to discuss the Boston Tea Party. So, I made a connection that instead of sending coupons for lemonade or other drinks I would send the wrapper a tea bag comes in, or a coupon, and enclose it with my Get Well card and write in the card “Welcome to the 21st Century version of the Boston Tea Party.” I have ancestors who fought in every single war in this country since the 1600′s. I am not going to take this blatant attempt to return our country to a dictatorship lying down! Gee, can you tell I’m a bit ticked off.

#239 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:47 pm

#224 SusyT
and your point? I did read it. I am not getting what you are saying……..

#240 savio on 06.16.08 at 8:47 pm

tank you 229

#241 SergeiRostov on 06.16.08 at 8:47 pm

#208 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 8:24 pm
Re” The email from Hillary.

My interpretation of Hillary is that she still believes in the positive power and promise of the Democratic Party in spite of the presence of people like Obama within it….

#242 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 8:48 pm

I sent the letter earlier to Dean. At least i have something to work with

#243 GOSUEF4HIL on 06.16.08 at 8:48 pm

Please let’s also continue to blog and post and write that we are not fearful of the supreme court if McCain is elected.

It seems to be the big sacred cow that scares a lot of women, let’s make sure women everywhere are not held hostage to that.

I sent an e-mail to Anna Quindlan at Newsweek, who has been a big HRC supporter but is now on the unity bus calling for us to remember that BO will be better for us.

Who the hell said he didn’t need our votes??? McCain is courting us, quite frankly, I am not going to be held hostage to the DNC anymore. I feel like a fool for all the time I let them keep me handcuffed.

Want to be liberated? Just say no to the DNC!!

#244 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:48 pm

#237 webfoot
well said

#245 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 8:48 pm

pa dem… read #206… we are thinking (hoping) that Hillary is “speaking to us”.

I really believe that the DNC (Democratic Nut Cases) are a lot more worried than letting on…

If we think for one moment that OB… (you know) is going to all this trouble to rally all of these forces to beat “McCain” in November… surely they know we are not that stupid!

They have created a monster and now to save face they have to make it sound like it’s all about “beating the Rebublicans”.

Really??? They sure do… the new Rebulicans that USE TO BE DEMOCRATS!

#246 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 8:50 pm

Has anyone senn VoiceOf Reason??????

#247 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 8:51 pm

Oh, I just wanted to add, in case there are any Obama Bots lurking around our site:

IT DOESN’T MATTER if Hillary comes to each and every one of our homes, PERSONALLY, gets down on her knees and BEGS us to support Obama or the Democratic Party, we are not going to do it, NOT NOW, NOT EVER!

#248 savio on 06.16.08 at 8:51 pm

i taught so,
thank you MuchAdoAboutSomething

#249 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 8:52 pm

Ok i will check out more creepy

#250 Roxy in cali on 06.16.08 at 8:53 pm

Sent my e-mail and fax to Howard the Coward already…..and you know what else? I called the DNC “to make sure they got my fax” LOL

#251 bruce555 on 06.16.08 at 8:53 pm

At the doctor’s office today we struck up a conversation about Hillary Clinton – 7 people, of course all would have voted for Hillary, wasn’t surprised at that, I heard the usual comments about not trusting Obama, his inexpereince, his background, his associates, his lieing, etc. etc., some would vote for McCain, some were silent. What shocked me was, an older tough looking man said he always votes republican, he’s not impressed with McCain, he’d vote for Hillary in a heartbeat because she has “b-lls”!

#252 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 8:53 pm

#238 goAndersen

Second sentence…Over the last week….

Maybe I am reading something in that isn’t there…but we’ve all wondered if she or some of her staff have been in here…

#253 SergeiRostov on 06.16.08 at 8:54 pm

#78 Seattlegirl on 06.16.08 at 6:54 pm

I have found it well, shall we say interesting that the JFK wing of the Kennedy family supports Obama but the RFK wing supports Hillary…I’ll leave any value judgments on that to the reader. :)

#254 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 8:54 pm

SusyT

I can’t read it.

#255 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 8:55 pm

Has anyone been reading the new “leaks” coming out in snippets today. Obama says that because of the long campaign waged between he and Hillary… they have to make up a lot of ground in getting Women to come over to his side!

Them he chastised McCain for courting women voters.

Should have thought of all of that before he paid over a million dollars to buy the Super-Delegates, promised to raise all that new money for the DNC, and sold his soul to Rezko, Wright, Farakahn and the Priest.

#256 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 06.16.08 at 8:56 pm

#251. I would be very surprised if they hadn’t been in here!!!!!!!

#257 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:56 pm

#250 Hey Bruce555
She has “ovaries” or you can call them “hazels”.
LOL!

#258 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 8:56 pm

Hello and hope all is well with everyone! Would like some input on a question I posed to all media outlets repeatedly. During the primary season every vote that Senator Clinton received was broken apart, socioeconomic backgroud, age, education so on and such. Now that really was never addressed much when it came to the Obama voter, sure they referenced change and such but did not delve too deeply into the actual breakdown as with Clinton. So my question is this? Obama received educated, affluent, those seeking change( whatever that entails is as of yet, unclear) and african americans. Now of the 92 percent of said voters socioeconomic background was never addressed, should that lead us all to believe that of that percentage they fall into the highly educated, affluent category, would that mean that the other 8 percent Senator Clinton received were the poor and uneducated? Hmmm! Curious, is it not?

#259 webfoot on 06.16.08 at 8:56 pm

#243 goanderson. Thanks. mayor0102 mentioned in another thread that he lives in WA State also (same as me). He had read the blog on the Boston Tea Party also and wrote a blog, “Anyone have a ship?” So, now I am thinking along those lines too. That’s for another day and I have to figure out how to tie it in. Maybe get the boat and dump Koolaid into Puget Sound. Of course, I’ll need to check the environmental issues with that…maybe it will be a ceremonial dumping. Call the news stations, etc. Anyway, time for dinner here so will get back on later. Oh, and the explanation for the person who asked “what webfoot” I came up with that name because in the Pacific NW we joke about having webbing between our toes (like ducks) because of all the rain. And, of course, we have Bigfoot (Sasquatch). Hence “webfoot” combining two NW items.

Go PUMAs

#260 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 8:57 pm

eeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwww!
I just got an email from Al. geesch. I have to go respond to his silly self.

#261 Roxy in cali on 06.16.08 at 8:58 pm

No MSNBC/PUMA video/link yet?

#262 cjv on 06.16.08 at 8:58 pm

wontbackdown on #254
After all they assumed we would just fall in line

#263 Beca4Hillary on 06.16.08 at 8:58 pm

#246 BrooklynNY, I am with you. As much as I like Hillary and support her, no way in hell I will vote for BHO!

#264 SergeiRostov on 06.16.08 at 8:59 pm

#229 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 06.16.08 at 8:41 pm
Savio – from what I was able to deduce *61 = Obama. He was born in 1961

I just wish that meant he was waiting to be President 61…I mean, 68 years just MIGHT be enough time for him to get straightened out…..:)

#265 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 9:00 pm

ooohhhh cjv… doesn’t it just make your skin crawl at the thought (of falling in line?)

P.S. DO you know that if Obama isn’t elected, he can transfer all that Campaign money to his Senate Re-election Campaign and doesn’t have to give a dime of it to the DNC?

Given his “character” what do you think he’ll do… stick it to ‘em!

#266 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:01 pm

#246 Brooklyn,
She can come on down, have a few shots, and tell me what she really thinks.

#267 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 06.16.08 at 9:01 pm

#263 – RFOL

#268 savio on 06.16.08 at 9:01 pm

BrooklynNY you are right
we are not going to do it, NOT NOW, NOT EVER!
nobama.I hope we all do the same and believe
the democratic party will see a much power together we have
power to Clinton

#269 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 9:02 pm

#253 BigCatLover,

Remember when she said “I listened to you and in the process I found my own voice….
she also says..”I felt we all spoke from our hearts and I’m so gratified you responded.”

#270 loca2525 on 06.16.08 at 9:02 pm

To all the new comers please sign the petition

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House

#271 savio on 06.16.08 at 9:03 pm

18 millions and counting

#272 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:04 pm

Has anyone contacted Mayor Newsom in San Francisco.
He would be a good connection and ally. Also, he is a HRC supporter

#273 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 9:05 pm

#231 aloha – REPOST – I had added two links and now it’s stuck in moderation – Anyway..
#102 alohapuma – addendum to #184 trishfromcanada – There was a concerted effort to get people to vote uncommitted if they wanted O or Edwards, but mainly O; so there was campaigning going on by O supporters. I’m sure the O campaign itself had zero to do with any of the MI campaigning they had pledged to forgo. They would never do that. Never.

#274 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 9:05 pm

#240 SergeiRostov

That may be so, but I think she knows that in its current state, with its current leadership, etc., it doesn’t represent the Democratic Party we all believed in, thought it was and expected it to be. I don’t doubt there are still many Democrats who adhere to the principles the Democrats used to stand for, but they’re silent now, for the most part. I do believe she believes the party can be salvaged. But it’s lost forever if Obama, Dean et al win this battle. Maybe not ANY Republican, but McCain, who is not ANY Republican, would be better than Obama and Dean and Pelosi and Harry Reid, etc. Even if she succeeds, there’s going to be a lot of work involved in cleaning up the Democrats. If anyone can do it, she can. In fact, she may the D’s only hope. LOL. Now, isn’t that ironic.

#275 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:05 pm

#268 SusyT
I wasn’t sure what you were trying to tell me. I thought I had missed something. Yeah, for sure we have responded, and now she will respond back. That is my take. How about you? ;)

#276 SergeiRostov on 06.16.08 at 9:06 pm

#262 Beca4Hillary on 06.16.08 at 8:58 pm
#246 BrooklynNY, I am with you. As much as I like Hillary and support her, no way in hell I will vote for BHO!

I keep hearng trolls asking why, if Hillary is supporting Obama, why don’t we?
This is quite revealing of the fact that – unlike us – they support their candidate blindyly
no matter what and they can’t conceive that anyone would be any other way.
Yet another right-wing phenomenon Obama has brought into the Democratic Party: that of the “dittohead.” Sigh.

#277 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 9:06 pm

#265 goandersen

LOL. Now that’s a conversation I’ve love to hear! :)

#278 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 9:07 pm

HILLARY! HILLARY! OUR VOICE OF REASON NEEDS YOU TO SAY:

I’M BACK IN IT TO WIN IT!

NOBAMA! NOT NOW! NOT NOVEMBER, NOT EVER!

LET’S PAY HER DEBT OFF SO SHE CAN TELL THE DNC… “Nice Try boys and girls”

#279 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 9:07 pm

Michelle regarding #257–I recall that the 92 percent number was the AA support by itself (arguments and stats that began after the Potomac Primaries). I may be wrong. I boycott CNN now, but they did have one thing in their favor. During each primary election, you could get precise numbers of each of those categories and how they voted. If you go to their main page and then continue on to politics, they should still have the numbers for each state and how the groups voted. Hope this helps. Also, RealClearPolitics and SurveyUSA should have the numbers, too.

#280 alohapuma on 06.16.08 at 9:07 pm

#245 sandipuma

Hi…I was originally here as voiceofreason. I posted that I was not the person of concern on AOL. Antifish did a little investigation on the timing of blog posts and verified that I am not the same person.

I took another username to avoid confusion.

#281 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:08 pm

#265 BrooklynNY
One can only dream. I bet she is a hoot!

#282 SergeiRostov on 06.16.08 at 9:08 pm

[Corrected post from above - SAR]

#262 Beca4Hillary on 06.16.08 at 8:58 pm
#246 BrooklynNY, I am with you. As much as I like Hillary and support her, no way in hell I will vote for BHO!

I keep hearng trolls asking why, if Hillary is supporting Obama, why don’t we?
This is quite revealing of the fact that – unlike us – they support their candidate blindly no matter what, and they can’t conceive that anyone would be any other way, regardless of whom they support.
Yet another right-wing phenomenon Obama has brought into the Democratic Party: that of the “dittohead.” Sigh.

#283 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 9:08 pm

#274
goAndersen…I absolutely agree with your take! sorry I wasn’t too clear…been chasing my cats. in between responses..they brought a lizard in from the porch….fun fun! They plan on playing with it till it’s a gonner! Hmmmm….Puma’s and troll babies!!!

#284 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 9:08 pm

SusyT

Got it.

#285 DawnE on 06.16.08 at 9:09 pm

ok, so my stupid a** sister-in-law is starting to push her agenda on me. I went to the senate website so I could look up BO’s accomplishments (sic), and non so that I can rebut everything she throws at me…Was anyone aware of the fact that “Mr. gonna get gas prices down when he gets in office”, didn’t freaking bother to vote on legislation when he had the chance????!!!!

Quoted right from his page on the US Senate site “6/10/08 On the Cloture Motion S. 3044
A bill to provide energy price relief and hold oil companies and other entities accountable for their actions with regard to high energy prices, and for other purposes. Cloture Motion Rejected (51-43, 3/5 majority required) Not Voting”
this was just last week! OMG I get more ammo the more I look

#286 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 06.16.08 at 9:09 pm

#257 – I think we should tell the Obama trolls that we will support Obama and vote just like Obama does “Present”!!!! LOL

#287 dcinvegas on 06.16.08 at 9:10 pm

hey murphy! had to go out for a bit and just saw your question. No I’m not supergram, I just clicked on the link in the blog roll the other day and saw the flineo videos.

#288 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:10 pm

Murphy
Next action alert: Pay down the debt day.

#289 Asian4Hillary on 06.16.08 at 9:11 pm

Suggestion Murphy,

Can we have BUMPER STICKER with PUMA LOGO? That is the BEST way to promote our organization and ADVERTISEMENT.

with our URL in our logo, many people with access to computer can visit this website. I know we’re just starting but I would buy bumper stickers and distribute it to a lot of people. We NEED VISIBILITY outside of cyberspace.

#290 cjv on 06.16.08 at 9:12 pm

wontbackdown on #264
P.S. DO you know that if Obama isn’t elected, he can transfer all that Campaign money to his Senate Re-election Campaign and doesn’t have to give a dime of it to the DNC?

Yes, I am aware of that. However, I doubt if there will be any left as all those Kickbacks need to be paid, esp in Chicago – whatdoya think?

I read somewhere today that both O’s and DNC’s funds are a bit low as of late. McCain’s is supposed to be low as well. However, here’s hoping he doesn’t get as lucky with the funds.

Speaking of which, does anyone know for sure that by contributing to Hillary’s debt via her web site, that the money goes appropriately to it?

#291 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:12 pm

#282 SusyT
LOL! Get your cats in here to chase down the trolls

#292 hillfan4mccain on 06.16.08 at 9:12 pm

Good evening all,

I too am sad about Al Gore, he was promised a position along time ago by BO. I did send him an email too.

Got my Dean letter out this am, thank you for doing that. Have been behind the eight ball recently. So had to use my time best I could. I managed to get out a number of thank you cards to Hillary’s SD’s, while sitting at swim team practices etc…. you know the drill.

Anyway, thanks to all of you who have shared letters, ideas, links and so on. You have made things so much easier with for me with my limited time. Who says summer is less hectic. crazy.

The flyers are great, I am planning a getting out a bunch this weekend here in Wilmington NC. There was a number of people who I was working with when NC campaign was open here, that was very opposed to BO.

Murphy- Thanks for making this such a great blog. Its wonderful to come here, such a positive place! Thanks for all your hard work, I dont know how you do it. Its appreciated.

Okay I just turned on Al Gore on CNN, he doesnt look good. Looks tired, eyes puffy. OMG he is talking about how “elections matter”, are you kidding me! Sorry I am losing respect for him with every word he says.

#293 mini vee on 06.16.08 at 9:13 pm

#254 wontbackdown

Once again, O-bambi can’t own up to his mistake. He calls women sweetie, offers them a ‘kiss’ for a vote, didn’t say boo when his surrogates and the media played hunting season on Hillary and Women and now complains because he has grounds to make up? That right, it’s all Hillary’s fault for keeping the primary going too long. Is this guy for real? Sorry to have inconvenienced you barry, millions of us actually wanted to see democracy play out and vote for our candidate of choice.

#294 hillfan4mccain on 06.16.08 at 9:15 pm

Sorry for my writing errors on my last post, Gore is distracting me. I didnt check my work!

#295 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 9:16 pm

goAndersen, Brooklyny, SuziT

Hillary’s new email Photo Book…check out the picture in New Hampshire…read it again.

I did! Wow! Wow!

If no one has seen it… here is “Hillary Clinton For President” email sent out to her supporters today asking for our support:

Dear ___________,

Together, you and I changed America forever. We touched so many lives over the course of this campaign, and I can’t thank you enough for the support you showed me. I met so many wonderful people out on the trail, and I wanted to share some of those memories with you.

I hope you’ll take a moment to view our online album with some favorite photos from the campaign.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/book/?sc=1901&utm_source=1901&utm_medium=e

Thank you so much — I’ll be in touch soon.

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton

#296 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 9:17 pm

I’m still wearing my Hillary pin. I will not give up. I got a letter from her today like I’m sure everyone of us did. I replied I am not giving up. I also got a letter from the Obama campaign and Al Gore asking for money. I asked them how they felt about the word NEVER?!?!?!? Would love a Puma pin to wear or at least a bumper sticker. Any chance?

#297 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 9:17 pm

#290 goAndersen,

Maxi and Jackson would be happy to oblige! We call Jackson, Hoggy Boy….he’d love a few trolls to munch on!! LOL!

#298 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 9:17 pm

#292 mini vee… you are so right!

#299 Beca4Hillary on 06.16.08 at 9:18 pm

Gore have said “Change” approx. 25,000 times, asked for $, and sounds like another Obamabot! The nerve, I lost respect for im.

#300 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:20 pm

#295 wontbackdown
For real! I know she is following all of this, so is Bill and Chelsea.
WE have to start contributing more consistently and get the debt paid off before the convention.

#301 Beca4Hillary on 06.16.08 at 9:20 pm

Oh!, and all of the sudden all the votes count, he really pissed me offffffffffffffffff!

#302 Mac on 06.16.08 at 9:21 pm

Has anyone written to their local newspaper? If so, do you have a formatted letter regarding the DNC and how PUMA Pac, is taking a stand.

#303 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:21 pm

#296 SusyT
LOL! Tabbys?

#304 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 06.16.08 at 9:22 pm

Hillary’s photo album of Texas has a sign that says “It’s 3AM”. Maybe she is telling us “You know what to do”!!!!

#305 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 9:23 pm

Also… notice on the West Virginia’s picture and what it says:

“I, like generations of women today, are able to make our own choices because other women stood up and demanded that”

Isn’t that what we are doing PUMAs… “making our own choices… “other women (and men) standing up”!

Hillary is Speaking to us!

#306 prplvette85 on 06.16.08 at 9:23 pm

I received an email today from Hillary. There was a link to pictures from the campaign, and asked for a donation. Of course Hillary asks, I respond. I also emailed her to make sure the money goes to pay her debt. This is what I got back. I am very hopeful from this message that she still intends to go all the way.

Dear Robin,

Thank you for your generous contribution. We are at a critical
stage in the campaign, and our online supporters like you are
making the difference. The more people we reach, the more resources
we will have to help Hillary win. Send an email to your friends and
family asking them to support our campaign by making a contribution
at http://www.hillaryclinton.com/joinme

If you have any questions about your contribution please contact us at
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact/

=============================================================
YOUR CONTRIBUTION RECEIPT:

DATE: June 16, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
NAME: Robin
ADDRESS:
Gary, IN
AMOUNT: $25.00

————————————————————-

=============================================================

Contributions to Hillary Clinton for President are not
deductible for federal income tax purposes. Corporate
contributions are prohibited by law.

Paid for by Hillary Clinton for President

#307 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:23 pm

Heil Al! Please.

#308 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 9:24 pm

WOOHOOOOO

I got a letter from Hillary too, I really didn’t expect one cause I couldn’t contribute. But she sent me one! LOL, ok why am I grinning from ear to ear. I have so much respect for her and she owns a corner of my heart just because she’s such a fighter.

#309 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 9:24 pm

That whole picture album is of her WINS! That whole album is “THE MESSAGE”… think about it!

#310 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 9:25 pm

#302 goandersen,

Yep! There siblings…Jackson is blind and Maxi is his helper! It doesn’t slow him down.,..watched him corner a lizard the other day…he only has one eye and the vision in that one is only about 10% although you’d never know it!

#311 Mac on 06.16.08 at 9:25 pm

Definitions of change

undergo a change; become different in essence; losing one’s or its original nature. Is this what you would call an obamabot?

#312 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:25 pm

#303 MuchAdo and #304 wontbackdown
LOL!
Like Tina’s song “Simply the Best” hang on every word you say……..

#313 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 9:26 pm

HILLARY… “YOU/WE are the one’s we have been waiting for! We are here! We got your back!

They’re playing their game… and this time they took it too far!

We won’t back down!

#314 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:27 pm

#309 Mac
called “reprogramming”

#315 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:28 pm

aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I really needed that Hillary fix. anyone else?

#316 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 9:28 pm

#311wontbackdown

Way, Way, Way too far!!!

We’ll never back down!

#317 bluesgal on 06.16.08 at 9:30 pm

I just got a e-mail from clintondems.com about writing to Dean. Did anyone else get the e-mail? They are getting the word out too.

#318 Mac on 06.16.08 at 9:31 pm

goandersen, you are so right. Like is says ” losing one’s or original nature. I wonder if his recruitment for “Fellows” would fall into this catagory.

#319 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 9:31 pm

#315 goandersen

MOST Definitely!

#320 hillfan4mccain on 06.16.08 at 9:31 pm

re: email from Hillary

I think the photo of the ladies with the “Hillary 08″ on their backs, so large so clear, is very telling. Its like a Stevie Nicks song, we need to read between her lines!

Gore has now pissed me off……sorry had to add that!

#321 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 9:31 pm

I like the one taken in Puerto Rico.( the one to the left)
Standing tall in that F-350 hauling through the streets.

Picture *61 in the same. I am laughing so hard now…I see him yelling “Any of you Folks have a barf bag?”

The first one when the album opens is “telling” as well. Still laughing thinking of Barack hanging on that truck.

#322 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 9:34 pm

We are looking Hillary! Watching! Acting on what we believe in!

And telling the DNC and (you know know who) “Big, Big, BIG MISTAKE… HUGE!”

HILLARY CLINTON! COME ON DOWN!!!!

#323 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:34 pm

#320 Hillfan4mccain
I would love to be a fly on the wall in Gore and Edwards houses. Lord Have Mercy. Tipper and Elisabeth!
I bet they are pissed!

#324 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 9:35 pm

If you really want to hear what Hillary is saying go back and listen to her speech. There are so many underlying comments. I remember one about never letting anyone tell you you can’t do something. And to never give up trying. Her delegates have not been released and they haven’t been counted yet. My 84 year old father did some research and says the super delegates don’t count until the convention delegates have voted. We need a miracle, but I am a firm believer in miracles. A lot of people are really unhappy about Obama’s economic package and FactCheck.org is trashing his medical package. A lot can happen in the time before the convention. I keep picturing Hillary taking the Oath of Office in my head. I asked my husband what the three words arrogant, immature and inexperienced made him think of and he said Bush. and I said think more current. Obama! We can only hope these get the best of him. He’s already tripping all over himself about the Countrywide guy he picked to help with the VP search. Hillary gets a well deserved rest while McCain and BO go at each other. It’s not over. I will proudly wear my Hillary pin every day. She’s my only candidate.

#325 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:35 pm

remember all the children at her rallys, amazing.

#326 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 9:36 pm

I’m watching Hannity and Colmes, they’ve got that windbag Dick Morris on…he doesn’t know sh…from shinola! He says none of us will actually vote for McCain!
What a parasite! Makes a living dissing anyone with the last name of Clinton!

#327 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 9:36 pm

I received all kinds of e-mails, but I am sorry to report that I am completely computer illiterate. Seriously folks I went out and bought the most expensive computer I could find, so I could go to Hillary.com and now pumapac and all sorts of other sights, and i can’t figure out any of this shit so I just sit here feeling stupid and utterly inept. HELP!!!!!!!

#328 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 9:36 pm

#317 – yup, and it’s the exact same letter we sent, just Puma Dem is now Clinton Dem; this thing is getting around – Dean’s going to be bombarded for days to come.

#329 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 9:37 pm

She tried to warn them… “He can’t win the General Election”

I bet they are putting that VP offer letter together as fast as they can… maybe they have had a hard time convincing Obama and Michelle that there really is suppose to be a Vice President?

#330 TXPUMACRAT on 06.16.08 at 9:37 pm

Just watching Fox News…”the women will never vote for McCain”

They don’t realize who they are dealing with…..

#331 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:38 pm

#324 nightsky
absolutely, I keep that image in my minds eye. That is her desk and her chair!

#332 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 9:39 pm

317 NotFallingInLine

For days to come…don’t ya just love it!!!!

#333 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 9:39 pm

Michelle47 You can’t be all that bad. You left a blog, you have a blog name. I think you are doing great!

#334 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 9:40 pm

Michelle–it is http://www.hillaryclinton.com
and you are here. Don’t feel stupid.

#335 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 9:40 pm

#294 wontbackdown

Hey I received that email from Hillary too and so did my husband. What really got me was “Thank you so much I’ll be in touch soon”

I hope this is a message of good news to come. I am just too tired today to read through all of the comments here. We have those 2 fires burning out of control here and it is playing havoc with my eyes from all of the smoke.

Anyway more importantly………..I did send an email to Al Gore, I was totally shocked to see him of all people endorse bo. I am sorry but I thought more of Gore than that. I guess it is loyality to the “Party”

I hope everyone here is fine.

#336 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:40 pm

#330 TXPUMACRAT

Are you new here? Welcome

#337 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 9:42 pm

goandersen Thanks! I’ll add the picture of Hillary in the Oval Office behind HER desk.

#338 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 9:42 pm

Michelle, if you got on here without copying and pasting your password, you are doing frinkin’ fantastic :)

#339 prplvette85 on 06.16.08 at 9:42 pm

Yes, it was great to have a Hillary fix today. I am more determined than ever. Good timing don’t you think? The Clinton’s are watching us….and very impressed too, I do believe. I am sure she is saying…they really do have my back!!! GO HILL-A-RY!!! WE WON’T BACK DOWN

PUMA

#340 cosmeta on 06.16.08 at 9:42 pm

Posted to my website forum on June 8th, 2008

[begin cut/copy/paste]

The 1968 Democratic Convention
And It’s Impact on the 2008 Election Process

“My political history is not that great, and do not know if the timing of this years convention is just a well planned, well thought out process in which the DNC has devised from the start. My guess is that it has had the agenda of nominationg Barry Obama from the very beginning. And so, I see many similarities about this year’s Democratic National Convention and the one held in August 26, 1968. That was the year, Robert Kennedy were assassinated; just 5 years after the assassination of his brother John F Kennedy and then of course Martin Luther King. 1968 was also the year RFK was the party’s nomination and the year Hubert Humphrey got the nomination in Robert Kennedy’s stead. He did not win. And if history repeats itself, neither will Obama.

“Today in 1968, the Democratic National Convention opened in Chicago, Illinois. The purpose of the convention was to choose a Democratic nominee for the Presidency of the United States, but it was much more. The four-day gathering became a symbol of the divisions present in American society during the late 1960’s and is today viewed as one of the defining events of that decade.”

mattstodayinhistory.blogspot.com — The Chicago Convention, August 26, 1968

My conclusion is that this year’s convention is also symbolic to the DNC and the reason they have been pushing BHO to get the nomination all along. It was a cleverly layed plot. It is no mere coincidence that the DNC ruled Hillary out. And in my opinion this was the reason Hillary mentioned RFK a few weeks ago during her ArgusLeader interview. She wasn’t emphasising the assassination, but trying to reveal the DNC’s plot to get BHO nominated. To save face on a very unpleasant time in or nation’s history. In short, this campaign has and was all about race and color from the beginning. It was a way of washing away the sins of the past. A way to devest the Democrats of their civil rights guilt. And this gala event, a way to celebrate the 40th year of Rober F. Kennedy, the man once quoted for saying: in 40 years this country will be ready to elect a black president. And if you remember in the 2004 August Convention Mr. O was given acculades by both pary and media for his Keynote Address; they saying at the time, that he, Mr. O was being primed to be the next presidential candidate. That is also the reason BHO’s first tv advertisement was a photo op of himself giving John Kerry’s introductory speech. There are no coincidences in politics my friends and John Kerry is also in league with the DNC to nominate BHO along with his friend Ted Kennedy; in my opinion.

This campaign season was an inside job from Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reed, and let us not forget about Ted Kennedy who wanted to write the history on his family’s name, as well as John Kerry who lost the election in 2004 by giving Mr O the nod through that Keynote speech. This entire primary season has been more about Ted Kennedy’s legacy than Bill Clinton’s ever was! Let us also not forget that only a few short weeks ago, in an interview Mr O proudly proclaimed having gone to Ted Kennedy upon his arrival as state senator from Illinios. At the time, he said to learn from the Lion himself. One would only have to guess what they spoke about during those meetings.

Wake Up, People!
Your Party has betrayed you!

Kathleen

[end cut/copy/paste]

The 1968 Democratic Convention
And It’s Impact on the 2008 Election Process
Forum #57 — Daily Grind
http://www.cosmeta.com/_Forums/view_forum.php?id=57

#341 Mac on 06.16.08 at 9:42 pm

This came from Emily List, with Madeleine Albright endorsement. I think we need to send emails to Madeleine Albright.
Dear Mac,

Having spent my life working on national security, I can tell you that our country has paid dearly for the irresponsible policies of the Bush Administration. I love America deeply and still believe our country is the best in the world, but I also believe that in the last seven years we have been led in the wrong direction.

Democrats in Washington have been working hard to recreate an America committed to liberty, justice, peace and respect for human rights. Over and over again, Republicans have stood in the way of their efforts to repair our tarnished reputation and to reclaim our country’s role as a source of inspiration and hope across the globe.

Our friends at EMILY’s List have a plan to end Republican obstructionism and put America back on track. They are going to launch an unprecedented WOMEN VOTE! program that will literally drive women voters to the polls so that we can unseat those who stand in the way of progress, and elect forward-looking Democrats up and down the ticket.

But we cannot succeed without your help. The only way EMILY’s List can fully fund this amazing campaign is if you help us raise $59,727 before June 20th.
In recent months, I have traveled throughout our country, and I can tell you that we have an historic opportunity this fall to elect truly exciting leaders. Among the inspiring women running for the Senate are Jeanne Shaheen in New Hampshire and Kay Hagan in North Carolina.
More letters from 1 of 18 million on there way.

#342 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 9:42 pm

Idowt took me 3 days to figure it out, I can get as far as reading e-mails, but don’t know how to open it onto my computer.

#343 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:42 pm

#335 suzieforhill
Are you down in Santa Cruz?

#344 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 9:44 pm

michelle47

Hang in there you are doing great. We have all been through this with our first computer. Been there done the same thing……………..you are doing great don’t get frustrated. There is always something with computers, my wireless laptop has not wanted to connect to the internet for the last 3 days so I am using my backup computer.

#345 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 9:44 pm

#252 SergeiRostov

I’m glad you brought that up. I’ve noticed that too. The RFK wing of the Kennedy family have been politically and socially active. They haven’t avoided politics, social issues, etc., sitting on the sidelines (exception: Patrick K., Ted’s son, but he hasn’t done anything earth-shattering, other than frequently getting his name in the news for one mishap or another).

You hardly ever hear about the RFK wing’s support of HRC, though you see Caroline all the time now whenever BO and MO need a little boost. Up till now, she’s done nothing politically. I have to say if I was her and Obama had offered me a spot on his VP vetting squad, I would have turned him down, saying I’m not qualified or appropriate for that job – there are so many others who know what they’re doing and would do it much better, etc. – Not to diminish Caroline K., but her accomplishments up to now have not been in the political arena. That’s not her field. I was actually shocked she accepted that job. She says OB reminds her of her father and her father’s effect on people. She was what 6 yrs old when he was assassinated? How much can she remember?

On the otherhand, RFK’s kids, for the most part, were a lot older. None of them see the similarities Caroline sees, apparently….None of them have been moved or, fooled, might be a better word, over to his side.

RFK was my favorite Kennedy – past, present or future. I loved and adored him beyond words. I was devastated when he was assassinated. I will never forget him.

When Obama gets equated to RFK, I just want to jump up, screaming bloody murder. It makes me so angry. How dare he! It’s the epitome of egomaniacal narcisism and the ugliest kind of exploitation! It’s repulsive!

JFK promised us much. Tragically, he never got to do much more than inspire us, move us, lead us in the right direction.

RFK was left with the tough, painful, dirty job of trying to make those promises reality. He actually delivered on many of the JFK dreams.

So, when you frame the issues as hope, inspiration vs actually having to make things happen in actuality, rather than in our minds and imaginations, I can understand why the JFK wing supports OB and the RFK wing supports HRC.

And I’m with THEM.

#346 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 9:44 pm

Mac, I got one of those letters too. What’s the plan on response?

#347 hazel eye on 06.16.08 at 9:44 pm

Hi everyone!!

I have been reading (everything) over the last few days on the puma site, all the blogs and “things to do”.
I don’t blog much, not as savy as alot of you, but I enjoy all your EXCELLENT comments!!!

I did the e-mail/fax to Dean-o, wrote letters to party people, called into radio shows (got on Bill O’Rielly) and stressed my distrust of Obama’s tactics and cohorts … Bill did not even interrupt, or get snarky at me. He did state “There are a lot of you people out there that are upset with the Dem Party, do you really think you can orchestrate a shake-up?” (!!!) I felt empowered by everyone’s info on this site and all the other sites calling for action, we really ARE starting to make a diference.

Seeing Al Gore (my volume was on mute) cave-in to O is truely an attempt by Party Leaders to try and snuff out all OUR grumblings, but ain’t gonna happen … we are on a roll!

P.S. to GOSUEF4HIL: One of the many people I wrote to (also)is Anna Quindlan. It bothered me she wrote about jumping on the “unity train”.

BUT, I am making progress with my talking points about (this) fracture of party principles, and the freaky takeover by the Obama Org. to family and people around me. When they listen and the “aha” moment starts to show, I beg them to join in and take action. It helps to make my day!

I’l keep listening and learning from all your knowledge!

#348 catsrlove on 06.16.08 at 9:45 pm

“Post #200″ I think you are right. This has been planed since 2004. I remember thinking why is this guy that I’ve never heard of giving the keynote speech..

I guess they didn’t count on Hillary’s supporters not “falling in line”.. I believe that we can stop their “Grand Plan”..

I hope with all my heart that Hillary has something up her sleeve for the convention. She and Bill are very smart people. I won’t count them out..

If that doesn’t happen, I will vote for McCain (if he doesn’t pick a VP I don’t like). Other wise I will stay home on election day for the first time since I was old enough to vote. That was such a long time ago…

Goodnight PUMAS

#349 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 9:46 pm

goandersen

Nope on the Outer Banks of North Carolina and we have an over 40,000 acre fire to the south of us burning now for 2 weeks and one to the north of us in the Great Dismal Swamp on the border of NC and Va

#350 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 9:46 pm

#345 Brooklyn NY – wow.

#351 bruce555 on 06.16.08 at 9:46 pm

I got my email from Hillary too, beautiful pictures, so precious, the glory that is Hillary Clinton, I can’t get over what just happened.
Her special message in the email “Thank you so much — I’ll be in touch soon” is so encouraging, gives me strength to just keep on going.
Tomorrow I will tackle the superdelegates, state by state, 3 to 4 per day. I’ll do all states and then start over.

#352 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 9:46 pm

Hi everyone,

You all have been working so very hard here and I have been so busy running my three girls around this summer that I have had very little time to do anything. I wasn’t even home to send the letter to Dean today. Can I still send it even though it is late? I feel guilty even being here with all of you right now when you are working your butts off and I am not.

I am a little worried about Hillary’s comment that she will be in touch soon. I sure hope that she won’t again be asking us to support Obama.

#353 TXPUMACRAT on 06.16.08 at 9:46 pm

#336 goandersen – thanks – i just put my 2 cents in every so often…but i’m reading the blog every chance that i get

#354 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 9:49 pm

#347 hazel eye – I’m working on something related to what you are doing. would you mind sharing? my email is dragonflypuma@gmail.com. I feel I have taken on more than I can manage in organizing a lot of data on misogyny, etc., but I will definitely email you back what I come up with. Then we can consolidate into one talking point memo all the many and varied reasons/responses to provide an antidote to the kool-aid poison.

#355 hillfan4mccain on 06.16.08 at 9:49 pm

Did anyone see Dick Morris (I know how we all feel about him) on Hannity and Colmes? Hannity was asking him about Hillary supporters defecting to McCain. Dicky said he thought this was all a set up to get Hillary on the ticket! And followed with “there’s not a feminist in America that is going to vote for McCain”. You know I only turned on HC in hopes of some BO bashing after listening to Gore!

Thank God for the email from Hillary today, hmmm I guess she knew about the endorsement from Gore today. Thats why that was sent out today, a call for action I would say!

#356 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 9:49 pm

KarlaforHillary

I sort of got a positive feeling from the I’ll be in touch soon. Maybe I just want it to be positive.

#357 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 9:50 pm

Please don’t smack me down with this question. After reading many posts regarding Big Al’s decision to endorse *61, who did you expect him to endorse. I give Al this much, he kept his promise, unlike Richardson and to some extent, Edwards. He said he would not endorse until after the primaries, if then. Think about it, does his endorsement really help *61? In my opinion, zero gain. All it has done is to prove further what the DNC wanted—” I finally found a candidate that I can really go for…AND NOTHING is going to louse that up!–( The DNC Group )

#358 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 9:50 pm

Hey everyone… I forgot to tell you how really, really incredible and thoughtful it was to send Bill a Father’s Day Card… this is such a powerful, blessed group!

And I am so proud of everyone here, every effort you each make toward our goals!

Thank you for allowing me to partake!

#352 KarlaforHillary… look at the picture album VERY Carefully and think about it, the states, the wins represented, the speech quotes!

Obama and camp is already saying they think they “can win without Florida and…”

#359 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 9:51 pm

#340 cosmeta

Right on. Thank you so much for that post. It sums it all up in a nutshell. I believe that’s exactly what’s going on.

#360 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 9:51 pm

suzie4hill I just got back from a week in KillDevil Hills. I’m so sorry to hear about the fires. It’s so beautiful there. Hope you are and will be OK.

#361 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 9:52 pm

When Hillary sent a copy of her last speech out to everyone who had emailed her, did she do that with all her other speeches or did she want to be sure her supporters heard that one?

#362 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 9:52 pm

My favourite moment of all moments in all the photos, videos etc of Hillary on the campaign trail was a short clip on the news of Hillary and Bill waiting for the plane the evening they were heading back from PR, and she looked very tired. Bill reached out his palm and stroked the side of her face. My eyes teared up because that gesture of love and kindness was beyond words.

#363 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 9:53 pm

#340 cosmeta,

My partner has been a die hard Republican all of his life (till Hillary), making for some very interesting times in our 22 years together. He had this pegged from the beginning…regarding Ted Kennedy’s legacy…he also says that Kennedy, Kerry, Dean, Pelosi and Reid are the driving force in this whole debauchery. He thinks Kennedy has some sour feelings about not garnering support for his own nomination and his ego wouldn’t be able to handle a woman accomplishing what he wasn’t able to do!

#364 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 9:53 pm

We have the Albemarle sound between the fire and our home so it won’t bother us just the constant smoke is really awful

#365 taylorgrob on 06.16.08 at 9:53 pm

I feel a great sense of calm knowing that I will be voting for Hillary or McCain. I cannot support BO and will not donate any money to his election or to those members of the Democratic party that ignored the voters.

We are disappointed that Gore used his Global Warming mailing list to fund raise for Obama. Another cause we will no longer support financially.

#366 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 9:53 pm

I don’t even know what copy and paste is, so I just send everyone my own letters, I hope I am helping, I have been working my butt off for Hillary from the get go, and I don’t plan on stopping. My dream,if Senator Clinton somehow does not come out with a nomination(that is rightfully hers) is to see Obama get wiped out in the general, I know he can’t win but I sure would love to see him take a serious ass whooping!

#367 Mozella on 06.16.08 at 9:54 pm

#102
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071010/POLITICS01/710100401
Wednesday, October 10, 2007
Five Dems pull out of state primary
Clinton will stay on Jan. 15 ballot but not Obama, Edwards, Richardson, 2 others.
Gordon Trowbridge / Detroit News Washington Bureau
Five Democratic presidential contenders removed their names on Tuesday from Michigan’s Jan. 15 primary ballot, angering state Democratic leaders and feeding Republican hopes of capturing the state in a White House race for the first time since 1988.
Barack Obama, John Edwards, Joe Biden, Bill Richardson and Dennis Kucinich — all trailing Hillary Clinton in Michigan polls — filed requests to remove their names from the ballot by Tuesday’s 4 p.m. deadline, eliminating two of the top three Democrats from the Michigan contest. They are not participating here because Michigan broke national party rules by moving its primary election date before others.
Clinton will remain on the ballot, her campaign said.

#368 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 9:54 pm

#349 suzieforhill
Oh, sorry. Hope they get it under control soon.
We have another on in Santa Cruz, CA burning. Just had one down there a few weeks ago.

#369 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 9:54 pm

“Propaganda”…. if you want to know exactly what the Obama and DNC is spreading and the tactics they are using… go look up “propaganda” in Wikpedia…

It is so scary that they really think they can get away with all of this.

Al Gore is another signal that they are trying to head us off at the front… woops… a little late, don’t you think?

#370 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 9:55 pm

#361 BigCAtLover

I only received the last speech letter.

#371 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 9:55 pm

She talks about their relationship in her book. And how she forgave him. She said her vows were for better or worse. She is such a strong person.

#372 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 9:55 pm

Michelle47–you are doing fine. The magic is beginning to work.

#373 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 9:55 pm

#231 alohapuma~

Also about Michigan~ NoName, Edwards, Richardson & Biden were on the ballot originally & sent letter requesting names removed from ballot~

The state of MI. tried to put their names back on but the 4 threatened to sue the state if names were put back on the ballot~

You already know about Nonames campaign blocking 2 different types of revote here that would have been paid for 1. Mail in 2. Fire house primary~

The 4 also JOINTLY published campaign literature and distributed it here.

Aslo the names left on the ballot were:
Clinton
Kucinich
Gravel
Dodd
Uncommitted
after removing their names from our ballot

#374 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 9:56 pm

#341 – is there anyone the DNC isn’t hitting up for cash? So they think if it’s Emily’s list and Albright the women will open their wallets? That’s sad.

#375 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 9:56 pm

#362 Trish..

I wish I’d seen that…how sweet.

#376 kids1627 on 06.16.08 at 9:56 pm

341# Emily list is not getting another dime from me they have not stood up for Hillary IMO.

#340 when BO makes his speech at the close of the convention it will be 45 years to the day that MLK gave the I HAVE A DREAM SPEECH Aug 28 1963

#377 Mozella on 06.16.08 at 9:56 pm

#http://www.sptimes.com/2008/01/26/State/Clinton_alone_in_push.shtml

Clinton alone in push for Florida delegates
By ADAM C. SMITH, Times Political Editor
Published January 26, 2008
________________________________________
Trying to ramp up the importance of Florida’s Democratic presidential primary, Hillary Clinton on Friday called for her Democratic rivals to join her in helping get Florida delegates seated for the national convention.
They didn’t bite.
“I hear all the time from people in Florida and Michigan that they want their voices heard in selecting the Democratic nominee,” the New York senator said in a statement. “I believe our nominee will need the enthusiastic support of Democrats in these states to win the general election, and so I will ask my Democratic convention delegates to support seating the delegations from Florida and Michigan.”
The Democratic National Committee stripped all the delegates from Michigan and Florida as punishment for scheduling primaries earlier than allowed by national party rules. Winning the nomination requires winning delegates, so technically that makes Florida’s Democratic primary meaningless.
But with Clinton comfortably leading in Florida polls, it’s in her interest to stress the importance of Florida’s Democratic primary and in Sen. Barack Obama’s to downplay it. The Obama campaign has repeatedly dismissed the Florida Democratic vote as irrelevant to the nominating contest, which doesn’t sit well with some top Florida Democrats.
On Friday, Sen. Bill Nelson, who some Democrats expect to endorse Clinton Tuesday, praised her statement, called on other Democrats to follow her lead, and declared in a statement, “All the talk about Florida’s Democratic Primary being meaningless is absurd.”
102 (con’t)

#378 savio on 06.16.08 at 9:56 pm

nightsky never is the word
the democratic party is 15 million short of money for the covention and they want us to send money .never after what they did to clinton and all of us
stay strong.
If we all vote McCain 18 million and counting,obama
Loose the election
we have to teach the elite a lesson no vote for obama
18 million people thats a lot to make a candidate loose or win an election
power to the people

#379 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 9:57 pm

#285 DawnE – did you get any other good intel on *61′s voting record or lack thereof? Sort of reminds me of the 130 times he just voted “present” in the state leg instead of taking a position on anything. now that’s leadership for ya

#380 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 9:57 pm

#355 hillfan4mccain
Re: Dick Morris’ comment “there’s not a feminist in America that is going to vote for McCain”.

Tsk. Tsk. How little they know. How little they know….

Who was it (some past head of NOW or NARAL sometime in the late ’80′s/early 90′s who once said when talking about women’s issues, “They just don’t get it. They don’t get it.”

They didn’t get it then and they don’t get it now.

#381 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 9:59 pm

Michelle47

pick up one of those books for Dummy’s. Honestly they work well and you will be a pro in no time. Cut and Paste are very easy. You can also go to the HELP on your computer but I think a reference book is easier to use. Go on to ebay and get one.

#382 Mozella on 06.16.08 at 9:59 pm

#102 (con’t)
Revisiting the Four State Pledge on MI/FL Promises
By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 07:12:40 PM EST

Judging from the comments the Obama supporters are leaving on TalkLeft, it appears there’s a fundamental misunderstanding on what the candidates promised and didn’t promise regarding the outcomes of the Florida and Michigan primaries.
Here’s the four state pledge (pdf).
It says nothing about which delegates will count or not count in Florida and Michigan. It says nothing about whether a state’s primary will count or not.
The candidates merely pledged not to campaign in any states holding a primary or caucus before Super Tuesday, other than Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina.
The text of the pledge is reprinted below:
Four State Pledge Letter 2008
Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina
August 31, 2007
WHEREAS, Over a year ago, the Democratic National Committee established a 2008 nominating calendar;
WHEREAS, this calendar honors the racial, ethnic, economic and geographic diversity of our party and our country;
WHEREAS, the DNC also honored the traditional role of retail politics early in the nominating process, to insure that money alone will not determine our presidential nominee;
WHEREAS, it is the desire of Presidential campaigns, the DNC, the states and the American people to bring finality, predictability and common sense to the nominating calendar.
THEREFORE, I _______________, Democratic Candidate for President, pledge I shall not campaign or participate in any state which schedules a presidential election primary or caucus before Feb. 5, 2008, except for the states of Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina, as “campaigning” is defined by rules and regulations of the DNC.
Hillary, Obama and Edwards all agreed to the pledge on September 1, 2007.
Now, can people stop saying that Hillary Clinton agreed the votes in Florida or Michigan wouldn’t count or to the non-seating of the delegates? It prohibited only campaigning. Even fundraising was allowed.

#383 bluesgal on 06.16.08 at 10:00 pm

#347 Hazel Eye

WOW!!! You got on O’Reilly’s radio show. Glad you are getting the word out in a great way thru the radio. How long did you get to talk?

#384 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 10:00 pm

All the local tv news, radio & newspapers in conjunction with the dem. Party & sec. of State issued instructions to voters if you wanted to vote for any of the 4 vote uncommitted or just stay home because our vote wouldn’t count anyway~

This had lots of airtime and print coverage~

Also their were reps{thugs/henchmen} of the 4′s campaign that were here in Michigan before during and after the primary and were still instructing voters how to vote~

GUESS WE DIDN’T LISTEN!

#385 loca2525 on 06.16.08 at 10:00 pm

Hello All,

to all the new members, please remember to sign the petition – http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House

#386 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 10:00 pm

suzieforhill and wontbackdown

Maybe you are right that Hillary sent the photo album and message as a sign to all of us. I want to believe that more than anything.

I can’t even imagine how much pressure Obama and Dean and everyone else is putting on her to get all of us to change our minds and vote for #61? Thank goodness she is a woman of incredible strength.

#387 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 10:00 pm

#373 gokimfromMichigan – thanks for the info. I’ve heard it before, but you just summed it up so concisely that I really see how terrible it is. I didn’t know about the threat to sue part. What the h*ll? that really makes it sound like a set up.

#388 alohapuma on 06.16.08 at 10:00 pm

“I keep picturing Hillary taking the Oath of Office in my head. ”

Yes. Yes!! This is powerful. Whether you believe in the Law of Attraction or not….

Just Do It!!!!

#389 CasperCat on 06.16.08 at 10:00 pm

Hey, I just got the emily letter too!!! NOT one cent of my $$$$will go toward this effort..Now, that they are supporting BO…Never!!!! On, another note, I too recie ved a letter from HRC… I would be more encouraged to promote donating to end the primary debt if I could hear from Hillary herself….Alot, of people who support her just feel that there is a loop hole and the $$$ would not go to her…After all, I cannot blame them after what has happend with the DNC, Media and the Bo gang. Any, suggestion’s ???????????

#390 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 10:01 pm

Sounds like a typical Dick. Thinks they know everything about women, but have no clue about men. Wake up Morris!

#391 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 10:01 pm

#379 Dragonfly

He is an expert at voting Present………..

#392 tarma on 06.16.08 at 10:01 pm

goanderson – I think the book you’re referencing is Subliminal Seduction by Wilson Bryan Key.

#393 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 10:03 pm

#367 Mozella~

Kucinich was still on the ballot here~

#394 MuchAdoAboutSomething on 06.16.08 at 10:03 pm

I’m leaving for the night. Welcome to all the newcomers!!! Keep posting those comments!!! Take care everyone.

#395 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:03 pm

#380 BrooklynNY
Isn’t that the damn truth. I hear the “Blue Angels” over head.

#396 MOE on 06.16.08 at 10:03 pm

I just want to ask you guys something , and I know i am gonna get blasted , but people wake up
for real wake up , I pay 4.60 for a gallon of gas this morning and you want a republican in the office , 10% of homes are foreclosed upon , and you still want a republican in the office , you claim , that obama is not chosen by the people , can one of you argue that he won more stats , and even you say the popular vote the different according To you is less than 100,000 what about his 18 million people , I guess they don’t count and you guys are always right , give me a break , know you bunch of soar losers, that’s all and guess what we will win Democrat will win , Hillery will win and every woman and man and child in American will win, and you guys gonna cling to your hate value come november , i hope this post will make it

#397 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 10:04 pm

#370 suzieforhill

thanks, very interesting.

#398 4hillinca on 06.16.08 at 10:04 pm

I unsubscribed to Emily’s list right after Hillary’s speech. I got an email and it stated that “we” were now supporting Obama. I quickly got my name off the list and sent a reply….Not this lady!

#399 Mozella on 06.16.08 at 10:05 pm

gokimfrommichigan
I just posted the info verbatim from the newspaper and internet sites.
Pure “cut ‘n paste.”

#400 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 10:05 pm

#184 TrishfromCanada or anyone else – I am looking for two things: 1) the ad in Florida run prior to the election 2) evidence re: *61′s heterosexism

#401 gostrumcat on 06.16.08 at 10:05 pm

Man! Al Gore broke my heart today. I probably should have seen it coming. My response-

Mr. Gore:

With all due respect to you, I cannot go with Barack Obama due precisely to the challenges that you have listed for our next President. He is not smart enough or qualified in any way to fix these things without someone training him on the job. We as a nation do not have the luxury of time. I sincerely hope that at some point you and the rest of the superdelegates will understand what those of us Democrats who take exception to Obama are concerned with. I will never blindly follow my party when I firmly believe that they are trying to sell me a bill of goods that they themselves don’t fully guarantee.

Sincerely,

Cathy

Washington State

Clinton Supporter

PUMA

27 years of voting with the Donkeys

Voting McCain 2008

Blame the DNC!

#402 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 10:07 pm

#387 Dragonfly~

yep they were here well before the primary getting the feel of us Michiganders~

Guess they didn’t like the feel!

And let me tell you the feeling is mutual~

thats why they pulled their names off the ballot they knew they would lose!!!

#403 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 10:08 pm

I honestly think we have to continue doing what we are doing right now. Hopefully it will work out and Hillary will be our President.

If I can’t write her name on the ballot in Nov then I am staying home. I was going to vote for McCain but I really thought long and hard last night and after talking with my husband who is totally for Hillary thank God I decided that I can not vote for McCain. I am just so scared that bo is going to get in and that just rattles my entire being. I have never felt this way about another person running for president………..no even Jr

#404 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 10:08 pm

First, Dick Morris is a big MCP. Second he is an intellectual jackass. He’s not worth listening to. I just switch the channel when he comes on.

I think a large part of Obama’s being picked as the nominee has to do with the anniversary of the I have a dream speech. Unfortunately I don’t believe that King would have approved of Obama. I still don’t understand from his work history how he afforded the house he lives in. As soon as he gets elected to one job he starts running for another and doesn’t do the job he was elected to do. I’m tired of everyone saying McCain is like Bush when he has been the opposite of a lot of Bush’s ideas. And I’d rather have him with a Democratic Congress than a very liberal Obama raising taxes.

#405 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 10:08 pm

#386 KarlaforHillary – you nailed it. It is one reason I so deeply admire her. She has more strength than anyone on the Hill and what makes her strength so powerful is her heart of gold. I loved the album too.

#406 Mozella on 06.16.08 at 10:08 pm

from wikipedia-
Dennis Kucinich unsuccessfully sought to remove his name from the ballot.

#407 DawnE on 06.16.08 at 10:09 pm

Dragonfly… only that he hasn’t voted on but two bills or motions in the last month, of 20 or more for him to do so. One was a bill to amend the SocSec Act to end some limits on medicare. Yes SocSec is arcaic, however, he boasts that he is there for the seniors and will do whatever is needed to see that they have what they need. This is a case in point, says one thing, does another. Says he’ll make a great President, will do another.

#408 cosmeta on 06.16.08 at 10:09 pm

Two interesting videos,

YouTube: The CHANGE MAKER – Friends of Barack Obama
The REAL Obama – and his REAL agenda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyqnLpPTFco

YouTube: Obama – The Stranger Among Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrM_oETnxrg

#409 hazel eye on 06.16.08 at 10:09 pm

Hey, Michelle47….
I, too am new to blogging, computers (even tho my hubby is a V.P. at the largest Computer Co.) and I felt like I was the last to join the ‘puter-techies! (I also have been an old-fashioned/ silent one, doing snail-mail to all our elected officials. . . but, as a graphic artist, I try to make my many envelopes look REAL good!) But, thanks to this organized ring of Hillary supporters, it has gotten me on the wagon to strive for comuter literacy.

Dragonfly: I will e-mail you! (yes, I learned how to do e-mail just recently.) Here is where I should put a smiley face, but haven’t figured out how to do that yet.

#410 DawnE on 06.16.08 at 10:10 pm

http://obama.senate.gov/votes/

this is a link to his actual voting record within the senate

#411 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 10:10 pm

Dragonfly,
I’ll see if I can dig up something on the Florida ad.
got to go lie down for awhile…will let you know tomorrow.
I’ll check the online in major newspapers.

Calling it a nite….

#412 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 10:11 pm

I found this on NoQuarter:

The New York Observer reports:

“Hillary Clinton’s former campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle has just been officially named “chief of staff to the Vice Presidential Nominee” by the Obama campaign.”

Also, if you haven’t already, go to NoQuarter to see what Tom Delay had to say about Obama. Priceless.

#413 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:12 pm

#362 TrishfromCanada
Was it you that said the comment about the “pocket protectors??

Well, we need to put ours on and go door to door with the message.

#414 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 10:13 pm

Karla, please post the link to the Delay article. I live in his “ex” district. Thanks.

#415 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 10:13 pm

#400 gostrumcat

I nominate you for quote of the night:

“I will never blindly follow my party when I firmly believe that they are trying to sell me a bill of goods that they themselves don’t fully guarantee.”

20 years voting donkey myself. When the misogyny started coming out, I really shielded myself from all media. just couldn’t handle it. Now I am immersing in it to get a project done, and I am so MAD! Luckily on bp meds. ;-)

#416 LoveHillary on 06.16.08 at 10:13 pm

Sent my letter to Dean today and signed the we want Hillary in the white house petition. Oh, and bought my PUMA mug!

#417 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 10:13 pm

Anyone here from Ohio?

#418 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 10:14 pm

Jeremy,

Here is the link to NoQuarter. The Tom Delay video is right on the page:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

#419 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 10:14 pm

Thanks Karla!

#420 OnlyHill on 06.16.08 at 10:15 pm

They are indeed some creepy videos—ohhhhhh

#237 webfoot.

I love the idea of a 21st century Boston tea party; it’s the rebel streak in me:). Thomas Jefferson said “I am not among those who fear the people. They, and not the rich, are our dependence for continued freedom”.

#259 goanderson

Me too: eeeeeeewwwwwwww!!! I just opened Al’s email and had to talk the puma claws back in for at least long enough to reply to “his silly self”:)

#421 Middle age female on 06.16.08 at 10:15 pm

“376 kids1627 on 06.16.08 at 9:56 pm 341# Emily list is not getting another dime from me they have not stood up for Hillary IMO.

#340 when BO makes his speech at the close of the convention it will be 45 years to the day that MLK gave the I HAVE A DREAM SPEECH Aug 28 1963″

This is no coincidence. I really believe that the OB movement was planned years ago.

#422 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 10:15 pm

#398 Mozella~

I know there is just so much missinformation out there about Michigan~

We dont even watch CNN, MSNBC{except Morning Joe-now thathe’s back}I was screaming at the tv because they were outright lying~

#423 NotFallingInLine on 06.16.08 at 10:15 pm

#399 FL ad – http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/obama_airs_nati.html

#424 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 10:15 pm

Jeremy,

Also, here is the URL to go directly to Youtube to see the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW7KRbsFT50

#425 Asian4Hillary on 06.16.08 at 10:16 pm

I respond to Hillary’s email and received a response. I’m a bit confuse here, can anyone help me please. I was sent to a site to signup for her campaign for President. Did any of you received the same response? Let me know.

#426 StarDust on 06.16.08 at 10:16 pm

Michelle47

Copy and Paste Instruction

1.Hit left button of mouse turn the paragraph, words, sentences in this blog to blue

2.Hit right button of mouse –select copy

3.Now you have your text copied and hidden

4.Open a word processor program or email

5.Click on where you want the test to show up in the (word processor program or email )

6.Hit right button of mouse – select paste

7.Now you should have the text you copied now showing where you want it on the page.

#427 Susie1945 on 06.16.08 at 10:16 pm

#17 Bluesgal – I got the action alert from the Clinton Dems – looked at the letter and it’s the same as the one we sent today – signature statement is different – I suppose I could really confuse those toads at the DNC & the big toad himself by sending the letter with my name & the Clinton Dems byline……..they want it to be sent tomorrow – clog up their fax again LOL

#428 hazel eye on 06.16.08 at 10:17 pm

To nightsky #403:
You are right, how did Obama get that nice $ house on the salary he was making, along with buying up the property next door (form you know who).

Also, McCain is nothing like Bush. I was living in Texas when he was running for Pres and he left behind a financial MESS in Texas. McCain, will hande to budget much better, altho Hillary would have been the best of any of them.

#429 Headclunker on 06.16.08 at 10:17 pm

I posted my opinion of the Gore endorsement on as #582 on Good Morning Howard (also agree with #586)

They are just playing another card.

BO’s Fathers Day Speach really stank. How could he imagine that Fathers Day is a good time for criticism of absent black fathers? And the way he did it was very negative (absence makes weaker instead of presence makes stronger). His cup is definately half empty. Or does he just want to send a message to his new buddies?

The Gore card had to be paid ral fast after that one.

#430 Susie1945 on 06.16.08 at 10:17 pm

Sorry – #317 – can’t type anymore today

#431 murphy on 06.16.08 at 10:18 pm

oooh, the trolls are creeping around tonight! Maybe I’ll release one later so all you cats can get some exercise, and protein.

#432 StarDust on 06.16.08 at 10:18 pm

In step 5 – that word is supposed to be text, not test

Sorry

#433 kids1627 on 06.16.08 at 10:18 pm

There is a new post on Hillary’s site at the blog and I like the last page of the Album THE PATH WILL BE A LITTLE EASIER NEXT TIME. THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE HISTORY OF PROGRESS IN AMERICAN.

#434 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 10:19 pm

Hey, y’all. This is kind of not on point now, but earlier someone asked what McCain’s stance was on gay marriage. Well, I am looking at Obama’s now and just thought I would copy and paste from http://www.ontheissues.org in case anyone was curious:

McCain’s record on civil rights:
* Voted against MLK holiday in 1983; now calls that a mistake. (Apr 2008)
* Don’t ask, don’t tell is working; don’t tamper with it. (Jun 2007)
* Confederate flag on top of capitol was wrong; in front is ok. (May 2007)
* Leave gay marriage to the states. (Jan 2007)
* John Lewis was as courageous as anyone could ever hope to be. (Apr 2004)
* Fear did not restrain Dr. King to resist repression. (Apr 2004)
* 1994: No Senate hiring discrimination by sexual orientation. (Jan 2004)
* Support evangelism but don’t pander to evangelical leaders. (Feb 2000)
* Inter-racial dating ban is idiotic and cruel. (Feb 2000)
* Career-long history of supporting Indian causes. (Jan 2000)
* Ten Commandments would bring virtue to our schools. (Jan 2000)
* Confederate flag is a “symbol of heritage”. (Jan 2000)
* Allow, but not mandate, school prayer. (Jan 2000)
* Would be “comfortable” with a gay president. (Dec 1999)
* Flying Confederate flag should be left to states. (Sep 1999)
* 1st Amend. not a shield for hate groups. (Aug 1999)
* Indian gambling OK; lottery is not. (Aug 1999)
* Hollywood should voluntarily self-censor sex and violence. (Jul 1999)
* Supports Amendment against flag-burning. (Apr 1999)
* We don’t need laws against Spanish language & culture. (Mar 1999)
* Affirmative action OK for specific programs, but no quotas. (Jul 1998)
Voting Record
* Ban on same-sex marriage is unRepublican; leave it to states. (Nov 2006)
* Voted YES on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
* Voted NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
* Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
* Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
* Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
* Voted YES on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
* Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
* Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
* Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)
* Voted YES on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. (Dec 1995)
* Voted YES on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. (Jul 1995)
* Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001)
* Require 90 day delay for compliance before ADA lawsuits. (May 2002)
* Limit interstate class-action lawsuits to federal courts . (May 2002)
* Rated 0% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
* Rated 33% by the HRC, indicating a mixed record on gay rights. (Dec 2006)
* Rated 7% by the NAACP, indicating an anti-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)

#435 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 10:20 pm

#399 Dragonfly I have not seen the florida ad but i will look for it.

As for the other evidence, well uhmmmm LOL ok I’ll keep my thoughts to myself on that.

#436 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 10:20 pm

Oh come on Murph! I need to go to bed and I want to see just one little troll! My cats are hungry!

#437 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 10:20 pm

#416 michelle47

I’m from Columbus.

#438 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 10:21 pm

#405 Mozella~

He knew if he waited until the deadline and then requested the removal of his name, it wouldn’t happen therefore leaving his name on the ballot by default~~

Reasonable deniability~

#439 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 10:21 pm

Hey Morris, this was my answer to your propaganda statement about ‘feminist women not voting for McCain’

Dear Mr. Dean:

I’m one of the 18 Million that the DNC wanted to forget about. Remember this: I won’t be coming back to the Democratic Party, Mr. Dean.

I highly recommend you resign your position now and CONCEDE that you made a BIG, BIG MISTAKE, REALLY HUGE in order for (your) “party” to move forward with (your) party’s efforts to “unify”.

As for me, and everyone I can convince to join me, I’ll be rallying, emailing, blogging the facts about your Selected Candidate’s anti-American associations, unethical, race-baiting campaign tactics and manufactured experience, :

“From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That’s how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.

After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan.

(143 days — I spend more time walking my dog than that!)

In contrast, John McCain’s 26 years in Congress, 22 years of military service including 1,966 days in captivity as a POW in Hanoi now seem more impressive than ever. At 71, John McCain may just be hitting his stride.”

Former Democrat, Voting McCain! (Abortion probably needs to be abolished anyway – because (your) party’s policies are as bad for democracy… as obviously they are for reducing teen pregnancy!)

No need to respond. You have nothing else to say that my vote wants to hear.

Former Democrat, Voting for McCain

#440 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 10:21 pm

#428 headclunker – I think I read the same thing today, that *61′s goof on Father’s Day required another sacrifice (Mr. Gore). Who is next on the table?

#441 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:21 pm

#419 OnlyHill
Al, Al, Al. He really is a drip and a wimp. Slithers in at this point. How can he stand his silly self. He is so ineffective!
Lordy.

#442 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 10:22 pm

#435 SusyT~

LOL :)

#443 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 10:22 pm

SusyT

Murphy has always told us not to feed the trolls and we try to do what she/he says.

#444 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 10:22 pm

Murphy…………….turn them loose we can handle them
LOL

#445 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 10:22 pm

#412 goandersen

Yes! that was when we were having fun the other night, that was a good night. I remember as a kid certain religious groups coming to our door wanting to discuss religion and they were really hot guys but they wore pocket protectors.

#446 Middle age female on 06.16.08 at 10:23 pm

Murphy – can you consider adding this one by N. Lee to your video’s at the top? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UViRBx7MQvg

#447 Dragonfly on 06.16.08 at 10:23 pm

#434 TrishfromCanada – just got the joke. LOL. I should keep my thoughts to myself too, but was tempted.

#448 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 10:24 pm

If you guys have not viewed the video of Tom Delay at NoQuarters, go now. Also, KarlaforHillary #423 just provide a link to the YouTube. One I will say about Tom Delay—-you don’t want him as your foe. He is from my district here in TX. Nothing regarding the church he speaks of (his) is false. This free advertisement peeps. Again, take a look.

#449 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 10:24 pm

BigCatLover….you misunderstand…I don’t want to feed them….

#450 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 10:24 pm

Come on Murphy…………….we are ready for them LOL

#451 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:26 pm

#426 Susie 1945
I had the same thought to send it from their site. LOL!
good idea

#452 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 10:26 pm

Jeremy,

I posted the YouTube link #423 above.

#453 Maryland PUMA on 06.16.08 at 10:27 pm

I’m baaaaaack!

URGENT MESSAGE TO PUMAS:

I am designing postcards, 4 to a page, that we can send to whomever whenever the whim or action item calls for a sending.

USPS has ‘postcard stamps’ – guess what’s on them – A PANTHER!

I’m off to buy boodles of them. Anyone else interested?

http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?storeId=10001&catalogId=10152&langId=-1&pageSize=8&beginIndex=0&sType=AdvancedSearch&resultType=2&searchTerm=postcard&searchTermScope=4

#454 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 10:27 pm

I wrote this little poem tonight just because I feel so good after hearing how happy everyone seems to be by Hillary signing off her massage today with “I’ll be in touch soon” Hope its ok to post here, just some simple words of thought. If its not ok, Murphy please let me know.

President Clinton
How many footprints have you left in each state?
How many hours did you remain awake?

Several weeks and days will come and go
We will walk beside you, this you must know

When you are tired, we will stand guard
When you need a smile we will make you laugh hard

We will share many jokes and stories
Support you, befriend you, erase your worries

You have shown us a new courage and faith
Given us dreams and ambitions, made us feel safe

We have taken none of this for granted
In our minds and hearts your message is implanted

Together we will be with you on that day
When you preside over this wonderful country
God Bless you Hillary, and the people of the USA

#455 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 10:27 pm

Just feed them to your cats!

#456 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 10:27 pm

Ya know I actually thought a lot of Gore’s global warming film but after what he did today I feel different about him. Followers………………..

My husband is so happy that the DNC is crying poor mouth. He said he isn’t giving them a cent………well actually he had some discriptive language in front of the cent…………

#457 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 10:27 pm

one thing and This is

#458 hazel eye on 06.16.08 at 10:28 pm

Jeramy:
You said you live in Tom Delay’s “ex” district, our lovely Texas home was in his stomping grounds. I worked on charity orgs. with him, but I did not like him. (once an exterminator, always an exterminator…) Gonna go read that article now.

#459 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 10:29 pm

TrishfromCanada

Send your poem to Hillary.

#460 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 10:29 pm

BigCatLover…they’re ready! Bring em on!

#461 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 10:29 pm

Hey did everyone get my post on the screen capture software…

Just take a picture of the posts the trolls make… they seem to run for the hills when they think we are getting proof that Obama’s paid bloggers are a bunch of radical, race-baiting, divisive, brow-beating teenagers who have never been asked for their vote, before.

#462 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 10:29 pm

TrishfromCanada

Beautiful……………………..

#463 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 10:29 pm

I was born and raised in Dayton Ohio, but I’m in Maryland now.

#464 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 10:29 pm

Trish, great poem!

#465 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 10:30 pm

Maryland PUMA

Perfect puma stamps!

#466 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 10:30 pm

Wow Trish… beautiful!

#467 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 10:31 pm

#436BigcatLover- I am from Toledo

#468 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 10:31 pm

Hey everyone,

I lost Hillary’s address for the senate. Does anyone have it?

#469 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 10:32 pm

Trish, Great poem!

#470 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 10:32 pm

#458 KarlaforHillary

I don’t know where to send it

#471 kids1627 on 06.16.08 at 10:32 pm

# Trish from canada
It is beautiful there was a guy from Canada in the seventy’s when we were still in Nam and america was sitll in the mist of deep conflit he wrote a song and it climbed the charts it also was beautiful . Thank you

#472 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:33 pm

#453 TrishfromCanada
Bravo!

#473 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 10:33 pm

Good Evening Everyone, It looks like you’ve been having fun on the Boston Tea Party Ship. Webfoot, yeah it was me that responded about the ship. Just couldn’t help myself. I’m a “she” by the way. Live in the great State of Washington just like you. Really saw a Sasquatch when I worked for the USForest Service years ago :-) . My feet are webbed, borned and raised here. So it looks like everyone is busy. I still have to 1) write a letter to the editor, 2) contact Hillary supporters in town (Federal Election Commission has their contributions), 3) send a empty tea bag, a PUMA flier and a sailing ship designed card where I can put the bag (I’ll send a copy of the card to marylandpuma for your use), 4)put up fliers with tabs in free speech places, and 5) best of all, go to the sign store and have a large 4″ X 8″ sign made to post on a friends fence that faces all the traffic in town. That should get some real notice. Everyone goes by their yard. I’ll have to check the sign ordinance at city hall and pay the fee ($50, I think). I have the Denver web site saved and will check back. I’m going to be over there this summer for a few weeks so will try to make contacts. I always feel so gooooooood after reading your comments. Ordered my T-shirt and am looking forward to handing out fliers every day at the 4th celebration on the lake (four day event). Will be acousted, I’m sure, but I know all the police officers in town and the fire fighters too. All I have to do is “scream.”

#474 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 10:33 pm

#453 TrishfromCanada~

Awesome poem~

#475 OnlyHill on 06.16.08 at 10:33 pm

#430 Murphy

LOL–exercise and protein:)

#476 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 10:34 pm

Hazel eye–I don’t think I said I liked him. I think I said,” I would not want to be his enemy/foe.” Especially with *61 record. Delay the Exterminator…I forgot all about that. Thanks for reminding us. Murphy–a solution for troll infestation—Tom Delay.

#477 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 10:34 pm

TrishfromCanada

I found Hillary’s senate address:

The Honorable Hillary Rodham Clinton
United States Senate
476 Russel Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510-3202

#478 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 10:34 pm

Thank you all for liking the poem, it was just something I felt I needed to write for Hillary and to show my thanks for each of you for accepting me here

#479 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 10:34 pm

#438 wontbackdown

Fantastic letter! :)

#480 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 10:35 pm

wontbackdown

I got it and I’ll use it for an upcoming 4th of July barbecue with some young, new Obama supporters who have probably never seen the garbage I’ve seen.

#481 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 10:35 pm

Anyone, What was the “get well card” idea? Tell me more.

#482 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 10:35 pm

Murphy, Since we are a political pac, do we have to declare in-kind donations?

#483 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 10:36 pm

#476 KarlaforHillary

Cool, I’ll put it on nice paper and make the font cursive and send it to her tomorrow, thank you!

#484 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 10:36 pm

Karla-

The Honorable Hillary Rodham Clinton
U.S. Senate
476 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510-3202

#485 Walking My Talk on 06.16.08 at 10:37 pm

Hello to everyone: I sent my letter to Howard Dean
today with great pleasure. This whole democratic fiasco
has been enough to make me won’t to throw up! The
DNC apparently still doesn’t get it. They just can’t
believe that many of us aren’t willing to sacrifice our
values for the nominee they pigheadedly selected.
I see they added Al Gore to their little game today! Well
that really makes me want to donate, so I sent one penny to Howard Dean. Hee Hee. Perhaps they’ll finally
realize I’m finished with the Democratic Party!

#486 TXPUMACRAT on 06.16.08 at 10:38 pm

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
United States Senate
476 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510

#487 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:38 pm

#452 Maryland Puma
My snail mail from HRC had a Puma stamp on it along with a flag stamp. 26 + 41 = 67. June 7th.

#488 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 10:38 pm

#477 TrishfromCanada~

After you send it to Hillary~You can enter it in the poetry contest @ poetry.com you could win the grand prize~

#489 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 10:38 pm

michelle47

There are 4 or 5 Ohio members here, but we’re spread out over the state. Have you put your name on the official state by state list yet?

#490 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 10:38 pm

Walking

LOL.

You people just keep me chuckling. Love it.

#491 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 10:39 pm

Thanks Jeremy, I found it.

TrishfromCanada–Maybe you could make a special envelope or something so that it stands out and gets noticed since I’m sure she gets tons of mail.

#492 Maryland PUMA on 06.16.08 at 10:39 pm

I challenge every PUMA to purchase a roll of 100 and use them in a month.

Who will take that challenge?

#493 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 10:39 pm

Put your name and state on PUMA PART I thread. Thanks BigCatLover.

#494 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:39 pm

#477 TrishfromCanada
If the no name gets in, can we come to your house??

#495 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 10:40 pm

#486 goandersen

Your mail FROM HRC had a puma stamp? That’s no accident!

#496 murphy on 06.16.08 at 10:40 pm

Mayor #481 — yes we do.
Why, do you own a film studio and want to contribute free use of the facilities, professionals, and equipment?

#497 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 10:40 pm

Good night everyone!

I have been a little fired up tonight over Al Gore’s using his global warming position to promote “you know who” …who probably never paid attention to Global Warming… or Al Gore…

….until he needed him to help stop PEOPLE UNITED MEANS ACTION!

#498 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 10:40 pm

#477 #493

Hey Trish…can I bring my cats?

#499 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 10:41 pm

MarylandPUMA

I’m on it. 100 pennies. To Whom and Where?

#500 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 10:41 pm

Already on the roll call

#501 alohapuma on 06.16.08 at 10:41 pm

Thank you to all re the Michigan-Florida pledge. Eye-opener. Armed (with information) and going in.

#502 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 10:43 pm

#492 mayor0102

My name has been there from the beginning – just suggesting Michelle47 might want to add hers. Thanks for letting her know the list is on PUMA PART 1 thread.

#503 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:43 pm

#494 BigCatLover
I didn’t think so either. Since when does a letter cost 67 cents to mail????? I loved it.

#504 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 10:43 pm

Murphy

LOL Wish I did? No, just thought if I went to City Hall and they ask me to pay a fee for placing signs (yes, even on private property), I just wanted to make sure that I was following the federal law as well for political action committees.

#505 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 10:43 pm

#500 alohapuma~

Your welcome~Go get em PUMA!

#506 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 10:44 pm

Maryland PUMA

I’m in.

#507 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 10:44 pm

Michelle47–you a proof of perseverance. You are doing great!

#508 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 10:45 pm

you are

#509 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:45 pm

#498 MarylandPUMA
I am sending play paper money. I need my pennies.

#510 loca2525 on 06.16.08 at 10:47 pm

I will continue to post this

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-Hillary-In-The-White-House

#511 CTKEY on 06.16.08 at 10:48 pm

Did you get the e-mail from Hillary ? Pictures from the campaign and she said she would be in touch soon. I hope it’s not another BO commercial.

Sad about Al Gore…The DNC dissed him too and now they need him to help the uniter unite. Pitiful.

#512 BigCatLover on 06.16.08 at 10:48 pm

Since there don’t seem to be any trolls here tonight, my cat and I are going to bed. Goodnight.

#513 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 10:48 pm

goandersen

I love that one……..I will save my pennies also. I have an old monoply game and I think I’ll put the money to good use……………LOL

#514 hazel eye on 06.16.08 at 10:48 pm

To bluesgal:

You asked about my moment on O”Reilly, he gave me a good enough time to put in three talking points, (about obama’s connections in Chi-town, I lived THERE too, and had a few first-hand thoughts on the corruption and his cohorts.) Also, his book title “Audicity..” is taken from his lovely “ex-?” preacher, and how this guy certainly has formed him, or he would not have devoted the title of his book to him…hmm?

Jeramy…the “exterminator” did a fume-agating, blast to the Obama critter…I now sorta like(mildly put) Tom.

#515 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 10:49 pm

#399 Dragonfly

Ad, ran January 21, 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKGqyMtnO7E

Reference article:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/8019.html

#516 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 10:49 pm

CTKEY… LOL!

#517 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 10:50 pm

What are the stamps? What is their value? I’m in. I don’t think her PUMA stamp was an accident.

I still don’t know how to get my name on the state’s list. Can anyone put it on for me? Nightsky from Towson, Maryland.

#518 deenj on 06.16.08 at 10:50 pm

This is from a Oblogger – these people are delusional – but good for a laugh.
“Al Gore just said it all: Elections matter.
This means that each and every vote matters–and so does each and every voter. So we need to continue to wear our Obama buttons, raise $ for the Obama campaign, phone bank, register voters, etc.
Each drop in the bucket matters.”

#519 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 10:51 pm

Each drop in Hillary’s bucket matters, too.

#520 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 10:52 pm

I don’t know how to get my name on the list either.

#521 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 10:52 pm

You know what I’d like to drop in the bucket….LOL

#522 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:52 pm

I just got a second email from Gore. Same message only the first email had his banner on the top and second one had the DNC banner on it.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwww! How rude!

I get to write some “precious words” twice now. LOL!

#523 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:53 pm

#519 Suziforhill
LOL!

#524 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 10:54 pm

I was refering to bo’s bucket I should have added that. I think I am getting tired and punchy.

#525 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:54 pm

#516 deenj
pass that bucket over here.

#526 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 10:54 pm

#493 goandersen

Sure! lots of room on the floor :)

#497 SusyT
As long as they acknowledge my two rue the world, I swear I should have called them pinky and the brain

#527 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 10:55 pm

Murphy, I forgot to say thank you again for all that you do (I promised) and I truly mean it. Good night to all the easterners and southeasterners. It’s 8PM PDT here, so I awaiting the mountain and west coasters.

#528 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 10:55 pm

to put your name on the list send an email to one of the Listkeepers:

shorttermerpuma@gmail.com

with your real name
username
county, city & state~

#529 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 10:55 pm

It is truly wonderful to engage(although I usually just read)with so many like minded individuals. This primary season has left me very angry, glad I am not alone. It is however rather curious that you all seem so intelligent, as the media and Obama campaign think we are dullwitted and on the fringe of eating out of garbage cans. Maybe we can all pray for a little rain to bathe in, for surely we must not have indoor plumbing. Odd though, is that we all here have computer access, libraries must be open 24 hours a day!

#530 deenj on 06.16.08 at 10:55 pm

Now they say every vote counts – where the hell were they in May…And remark about $$$$’s what happened to the new DP, the ones that were supposed to be better educated and had more money. Maybe it’s all slowly starting to fall apart. The DNC probably begged Al Gore to endorse him because things ain’t looking so good for their wonder boy. That’s what happens when you lie, cheat and steal.

#531 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:56 pm

#515 nightsky
puma stamps are worth 26 cents. hmmm Feb 6. What happened on that day?

#532 bruce555 on 06.16.08 at 10:57 pm

Special thank you’s to special PUMAs
Thank you for your messages on 6/15

Murphy, you are the very best!

Goalucard4Hill, thank you for your advice on the superdelegates, I’m starting tomorrow, state by state, and right back over again.

Dragonfly, thank you for your advice, I was very upset at that offensive message, responded too quickly.

All PUMAs are special, we’re all in this together, we will prevail!!!

#533 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 10:57 pm

Ok~ All Good Night & keep up the Good Fight~

hmmm might be a song in those words~ :)

#534 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 10:58 pm

#528 michelle47
LOL! another witty puma!

#535 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 10:58 pm

We should also send the message… “You selected the guy with the “Big Bucks” skills… ask him for a loan!

We are paying off Hillary’s Debts and donating to efforts that ensure un-democratic political scams and their puppets get defeated in the fall!

What is it that the DNC and Obama supporters don’t understand about: “We are not listening to you anymore, either!”

#536 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 10:59 pm

#513 hazel eye
06.16.08 at 10:48 pm

Yep, we sometimes have to look at the whole bubble. Tom had/has his faults, but right now, I will take any help he has.

#537 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 10:59 pm

Nightsky

Go up to Search. Put in PUMA Part 1. All threads will come up. Choose PP1 and submit your first name and state. Look at others to see what they did.

#538 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:00 pm

#528 michelle47

#539 pooh496 on 06.16.08 at 11:00 pm

I need more info on the tea bag thing. I like the ideas for the get well cards. I am so tired I can hardly read the blog tonight. I’ll check in tomorrow to see what our Action is for the day. Thanks. So many great ideas flying so fast!

#540 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:00 pm

#528 michelle47… LOL! With that… I can smile myself to bed now!

#541 hazel eye on 06.16.08 at 11:01 pm

Hey
, I may be slow(on the computer) but I’m having a great time with y’all!

To anderson..love the play money idea!!! I’m doing it!

The puma stamp is really something, so purrrrrfect and definately NO coincident! Or a subliminal message…
(maryland..I’ll take the challenge on that too)

nightsky…I live in maryland,near Potomoc

Trish…the poem really touched me, nice to end the night with it.

#542 gokimfrommichigan on 06.16.08 at 11:01 pm

#528 michelle47~

LOL~ thats good.
Gotta love how damn stupid we all are huh~
ok really am going to bed now~

#543 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 11:02 pm

#517 deenj
#517 deenj

Re: Obama buttons.

I used to see people wearing them all over town. Haven’t seen one in days. Don’t have a clue why. Could it be they’re ashamed of themselves? I’d like to believe that’s why, but that might be overly optimistic. Still, it’s a fantasy I kind of enjoy.

#544 charmgrl on 06.16.08 at 11:02 pm

hillfan4mccain

I saw Dick Morris on Hannity. He is the most ridiculous and hateful person, I don’t know why anyone would let him on their show and I e-mailed Hannity to that effect.

#545 murphy on 06.16.08 at 11:02 pm

Mayor 503 — no worries, that kind of expense wouldnt count as an in-kind contribution.

Wow, the have a lot of fees where you live.

Welcome Michelle47! great to have you here.

#546 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:03 pm

#528 Michelle
I love your comment………….I need to chuckle every once in awhile

My husband told me not to get upset before I go to bed like I was last night so he is glad that I am sitting here laughing tonight.

We need some humor in all of this because anger can really do a number on us.

By the way you are not alone………..there are 18 million of us and we will stand together and be heard. It is time to not remain silent. We don’t stand in line or drink kool aid.

#547 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 11:03 pm

#528 Michelle47

They also think that those of us south of the mason-dixon are married to our cousins, we don’t read and our family trees go straight up!

#548 murphy on 06.16.08 at 11:04 pm

nice work charmgrl#543, welcome to you as well!

#549 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 11:05 pm

Murphy,

When I send the poem to Hillary’s office, may I sign it PUMA, and put the PUMA logo on the paper? I’m not sure if using the logo is permissable.

#550 ShortTermer on 06.16.08 at 11:06 pm

There is a video on anther site [Gen Wesley Clark] where he is scathing McCain that he has no experience in national security/defense; but he is backing Obama?

I would bet that Obama is going with Gen Clark as VP

And Dick Morris on Hannity&Colmes said that Hillary supporters were working on trying to get Hillary on ticket as VP, and hinted that Hillary might be agging us on – he said….romance Hillary style- a shotgun wedding.

#551 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:06 pm

Definition of Audacity: Randon House College Dictionary

Bold and daring, confident or arrogant, disregard for personal safety, effrontery or insolence. Syn: temerity, foolhardiness

Remind you of anyone we know????

#552 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:06 pm

I gotta go let the pigs out.

#553 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 11:06 pm

342 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 9:42 pm
Idowt took me 3 days to figure it out, I can get as far as reading e-mails, but don’t know how to open it onto my computer.

michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 9:36 pm
I received all kinds of e-mails, but I am sorry to report that I am completely computer illiterate. Seriously folks I went out and bought the most expensive computer I could find, so I could go to Hillary.com and now pumapac and all sorts of other sights, and i can’t figure out any of this shit so I just sit here feeling stupid and utterly inept. HELP!!!!!!!

Michelle–You have come a long way in the past 90 mintues. Perseverance pays off. And you are right, the web is 24/7. And what a resource to have in the background as you make the case–the library. Kudos!

#554 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 11:06 pm

#543 Charmgrl,

I email Hannity about every other week to complain about Morris! He’s a parasite. Just looking at him pisses me off!

#555 cosmeta on 06.16.08 at 11:06 pm

My email to Mr Gore

Dear Mr Gore,

I am truly saddened to hear that you have endorsed Senator Obama over Senator Hillary Clinton because she won the Popular Vote and also had over 308 Electorial votes to win the Electorial College in the fall. And because I once voted for you and was angry over what the Republicans did with the Florida vote. And also because I thought you should have fought for it. And look at what we got—a cowboy with charisma. And what does Obama have… charisma and ONE speech redone ad nauseum… but what else? What exactly are his legislative accomplishments—nothing, de nada. ziltch!

Would the DNC and Howard Dean have handled the Michigan and Florida issue differently and if they had just WAITED another few days instead of Dean’s pushing the Supers in February and March as he did, I might have accepted either/or as winner. I might have been disappointed but not INFURIATED AS I NOW AM.

Obama has very dubious relationships and the Country as a whole still doesn’t know who and what he is or what he stands for regardless of all his empty rhetoric. From Trinity United Church to Reverend Wright; to William Ayers and Tony Rosco, one cannot trust his judgements on anything let alone give the country over to him to run. Both he and his wife foster a black libertarian point of view and have but one agenda. They do not see America in the same way I do. In short, he is an empty suit.

Please do not respond to this email or put me on your emailing list because I WILL NOT, CANNOT SUPPORT AN ILLEGITIMATE NOMINEE.

Kathleen

In sympathy with,
BLOG.PUMAPAC.ORG

#556 murphy on 06.16.08 at 11:07 pm

Trish 548, abso-frickin-lutely!

#557 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 11:08 pm

Since everyone has a bit of a funny bone tonight, I thought I would post the postturtle joke again–for all who haven’t heard it, I hope it makes you laugh:

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas rancher, whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our President.

The old rancher said, ‘Well, ya know, Obama is a ‘post turtle’.’
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ‘post turtle’ was. The old rancher said, ‘When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘post turtle’.’

The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain. ‘You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb ass put him up there to begin with.’

#558 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:09 pm

Shorttermer

I hope not….. Wes Clark was my favorite in the last go aroundin 2004. He’s a top notch general with so much to offer. He was a very stron Hillary supporter all the way through. I know that he a “country first” kind of guy and I have a feeling that Hillary and Bill would want him at the top is possible It would probably be the “only” good decision that O could make.

#559 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:10 pm

#556 KarlaforHillary
someone go on the bo site and submit as a new T-shirt idea. LOL!
” In Post Turtle We Trust”

#560 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:11 pm

Okay everyone. I had to look at Hillary’s new email one more time.

Hillary, Bill, Chelsea, Maggie… If you are here, listening, thanks for the Pictures… don’t worry… we are not forgetting you, either!

We Won’t Back Down… because: THIS ONE IS FOR YOU AND ALL THAT YOU STOOD FOR — WE THE PEOPLE!

If anyone missed her email today, here is what she said:

Dear __________,

Together, you and I changed America forever. We touched so many lives over the course of this campaign, and I can’t thank you enough for the support you showed me. I met so many wonderful people out on the trail, and I wanted to share some of those memories with you.

I hope you’ll take a moment to view our online album with some favorite photos from the campaign.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/book/?sc=1901&utm_source=1901&utm_medium=e

Thank you so much — I’ll be in touch soon.

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton

(Notice the pictures they picked and the words in the speeches they chose)

She’s listening, she hears us roar!

#561 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 11:11 pm

goandersen

You crack me up!! Great idea!!

#562 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:11 pm

#557 mayor0102
I hope not as well. He is a strong HRC supporter. He won’t take it.

#563 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 11:11 pm

#555 murphy

Thank you, and also thank you very much for this blog, it’s so nice to be here where people are fun, smart and wanting the same goal, I don’t know how you do everything so well, so much organization, great job!

#564 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 11:12 pm

Hoping by tomorrow to have all this crazy computer stuff figured out, then I can e-mail the hell out of every turncoat in this vile party. Wait until I get going, I’ll probably be offered a job with the geek squad!

#565 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:12 pm

Karla,

LOL! Those farmers and ranchers know how to “put” things in perspective. Thanks for sharing.

#566 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 11:12 pm

556 KarlaforHillary

LOL. That’s precious! :)

#567 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:12 pm

P.S. Also notice: She is still using her “Hillary for President” stationary and never mentions “What’s his name” and the DNC!

#568 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 11:13 pm

#551 #556 goandersen LMAO!

#569 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:13 pm

Goodnight ALL!

#570 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 11:13 pm

#566 wontbackdown

That’s a great point.

#571 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 11:14 pm

Thank you Karla. On that note I’m off to walk my dogs one last time and call it a night. We have a lot of work to do and I wanted to be well rested. Has anybody seen Hillary campaigning for Obama yet?

#572 Maryland PUMA on 06.16.08 at 11:15 pm

Nightsky, hazel eye!

How wonderful to see fellow Marylanders! I though I was surrounded by Obananas.

I’m outside Salisbury, 20 min from OC.

#573 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 11:15 pm

I haven’t seen Hillary anywhere at all, but I don’t watch the news anymore. I’m still boycotting.

#574 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:15 pm

I love the post turtle…………..LOL

#575 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:16 pm

#560 KarlaforHillary
Let’s get some paper play money printed up with a “post turtle” in the middle and the words “In Post Turtle We Trust” underneath it. Send it to whole “pony unity” group,and the DNC as contributions. They didn’t say what kind of contribution, did they?
LOL!
I wish I could draw!

#576 Maryland PUMA on 06.16.08 at 11:16 pm

Murphy

Do you have MSOffice Publisher?

I have some ‘gifts’ for you before I put them on the site.

Would love your feedback.

MarylandPUMA

#577 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 11:17 pm

I’m glad everyone liked the post turtle joke. Feel free to pass it on. I received it by e-mail from my sister-in-law, but I have no idea who originally wrote it.

Good nite all.

#578 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:17 pm

I haven’t seen Hillary either……….I am sure she is spending her time wisely.

I am sure she knows what we are up to.

#579 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:17 pm

Hi Everyone those were creepy and i can think of another word

#580 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 11:18 pm

Dragonfly:
I pasted the link for the florida ad, it went in moderation because I added two links. It’s further back from this post.

#581 hazel eye on 06.16.08 at 11:18 pm

Love the POST TURTLE!!!

Saw it on here the other night, and am still laughing like a hyena (SP?) ..not very kitty-like, my husband thinks this “new” computer-literate person disguised as his wife is not a good idea…but he’ll work with it.

Everybody tonight is HOT!

#582 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 11:18 pm

goandersen #574

Where do you come up with these ideas? That is another great one! I can’t draw either though.

#583 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:18 pm

Hi Trish and Dcinvegas you still here???

#584 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:18 pm

#572 KarlaforHillary… if you are referencing my post… Hillary’s Message came in an email to her supporters today!

#585 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 11:19 pm

#574 goandersen…..stop making me laugh so hard!

#586 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:19 pm

#577 suzieforhill… did you get the email from Hillary today???

#587 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:20 pm

#574 goandersen

Nope they didn’t say what kind of contributions so the sky is the limit.

You let your pigs out this late ???? Mine are in for the night .LOL

#588 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:20 pm

Hillary is a very smart Woman and believe me she knows :)

#589 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 11:20 pm

hey there sandipuma, I’m still here, I am a very slow typist, so by the time I type one post, there a 30 more to read from everyone else

My friend calls me speedy lol

#590 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:21 pm

wontbackdown

Yes I did get the email from Hillary and I have some great feelings about it

#591 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 11:21 pm

Love for the post turtle also. For anyone that actually knows how to e-mail, I believe old Al should be asked Obamas legislative achievments regarding global warming, a subject so near and dear to him! I for one have not heard of any such achievments!

#592 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:22 pm

I lost my aol today because i used someones name i am never supposed to use.New rules.

#593 queen81 on 06.16.08 at 11:22 pm

My poor girlfriend…she is also a hillary supporter but works long hours…i’m home recovering from surgery so i have all day to keep up with blogs and developments…she always calls on her way home and gets about two words in before I ask if she wants all the updates of the day! fortunately she does and it’s all good.

Love it that morris thinks I won’t vote for McCain. they should really be scared of someone like me. I’m a 27 year old college graduate with a household income over $50,000….they would think i’d be an obama supporter, but no.

doing everything I can for Hillary but am fully prepared to vote McCain. Have to mention that i’m also a pro-choice Lesbian…wake up call DNC…if someone as liberal as me see’s that Obama is bad news, you have no chance in november!

#594 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 11:23 pm

You lost your isp? or your e-mail?

#595 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 11:23 pm

Maryland PUMA I am in Towson, north of Baltimore. I thought I was in the minority, too. But its amazing how many people support me for continuing to wear my Hillary pin. A couple of people have made stupid remarks like “get over it” or “you must be having a bad day”, but I don’t let them get to me. I also just took my sons and a group of their friends to the Outer Banks and all nine of them supported Hillary. It always worries me that our voting machines don’t have a paper trail. I don’t trust the system without it.

#596 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:24 pm

actualy last night i lost it lastnight because i said Obs name and you can’t anymore on aol so everyone be carefull.

#597 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:24 pm

#588 TrishfromCanada… here is one trick for us slow posters… go ahead and type your post and then highlight it and cut it. Then refresh your screen and go back to the comment block and paste the message back in and hit the submit button.

PUMAS are really fast, but this helps me stay up somewhat.

#598 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:25 pm

#581 KarlaForHillary
I am still a child at heart after all these years. If there is something funny to find, I am on it!
LOL! Thanks for appreciating. ;)

#599 murphy on 06.16.08 at 11:25 pm

#586 Suzieforhill and Goanderson, I have to ask, are you guys serious about the pigs?

#600 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:25 pm

Thats why i came in and asked if anyone had seen Voiceofreason anymore

#601 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:25 pm

Good nite to all of you PUMA’s I have to work tomorrow. Have a good time on here and see you all tomorrow evening. Great to see everyone thinking positive. The Library is kicking me out………….LOL

#602 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 11:26 pm

#595 sandipuma

Seriously? So they like slapped your wrist and suspended your account?

btw i refer to him as beetlejuice cause in the empty suit cartoon image that’s who her reminds me of, the shrunken heads

#603 murphy on 06.16.08 at 11:26 pm

sandipuma #599 — yes! voiceofreason is now alohapuma — she was here today and last night if I’m not mistaken.

#604 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:26 pm

#590 Michelle47
Mr. No Name voted for the Bush/Cheney Energy Bill for crimminy sakes!

#605 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 11:26 pm

Hey queen81 I own a gay nightclub in Ohio, come for a visit sometime.

#606 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:27 pm

I had so much stuff in my favourite places on aol and all my contacts GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

#607 BarbNOBO on 06.16.08 at 11:27 pm

Al Gore and the other democratic dip sticks are all looking like a bunch of pathetic fools. I supported Gore in 2000 but was very disgusted by the way he handled the FL problem. He looked very weak. His endorsement of BO only firms up my decision not to vote for BO.

#608 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 11:27 pm

I was going to leave, but haven’t been able to pry myself away yet.

#595 sandipuma–why can’t you use his name on AOL? I don’t use AOL, so I am lost.

Goandersen–I am also curious about the pigs?????

#609 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:27 pm

#586 Suzieforhill
only 8:30 here.

#610 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:27 pm

#589 suzieforhill… me too! It just feels like Hillary is rising!

#611 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:27 pm

Murphy………………I am kidding.

And I am at home. Just joking. I can’t even type because I am in stitches. Better than last night when I was so down.

#612 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 11:28 pm

Who was it that said they had some hungry cats? Was that one of the jokes I missed?

#613 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 11:28 pm

Suzie for Hill, Hope your alley isn’t overcrowded this evening, sleep well!

#614 queen81 on 06.16.08 at 11:29 pm

Fantastic Michelle47…i’m down here in SC so it’s difficult to find a good one that’s for sure!

#615 hazel eye on 06.16.08 at 11:29 pm

Marylandpuma and nightsky:
You both are more coastal, than me. I just got the Potomac lapping at my ankles, not saltwater.

suzie…my “piggie” is a pug, and he’s got the tail thing going!

on a more serious note, you guys have so many good ideas, I can’t write my notes fast enuff. But I now have alot of projects for tomorow.

Hey, I’m an artist, I’ll try my hand at the post turtle money, anderson.

#616 LizzyinCT on 06.16.08 at 11:29 pm

omg – I can’t keep up with the posts!!!! This is so positively inspiring!!! We are slammin’ and jammin’ !!! woohoo :-)

My day:

* emails sent to both Howie’s addresses
* letter faxed to Howie
* lobbied superdelegates (uncomm., HRC comm., BO comm.) for 10 more states
* emailed thank you and PUMApac goals/concerns to Stephanie Tubbs Jones
* registered with Citizens for McCain ( I will vote for him if our Hillary isn’t the nominee)
* emailed Senator Lieberman – explained PUMApac goals/concerns and also mentioned that McCain’s website is waaaaaaaay slow and frustrating to navigate and blog on. Suggested continued outreach to HRC supporters.
* registered on YouTube – tried to post comments on some videos but they’re not showing up (have to check into that some more, tomorrow).

Murphy ~ ROFLMAO !! maybe you “should release a troll for our exercise and protein” !!! too funny :-)

Will Bower was fantastic on Cavuto. The MSNBC newsreader, this morning, was late bringing Will on – and, then, cut him off so quickly. No surprise there.

Dick Morris GAGS me. I tried to quickly post a comment at H & C, but I had so many windows open ….. geesh. I’ll send an email to the show tomorrow. He truly has NO CLUE.

Got my email from Hillary. Haven’t opened up the pictures yet. I knew I’d cry and I still had too many emails to get out. I’ll look at them tomorrow – maybe :-( .

Off to light some candles and hit the sack. Awesome work today, PUMAs. You all are so amazing!

xo, Lizzy

#617 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:30 pm

Ok ty Murphy i have been so upset today and i now have NETZERO and it sucks so i wrote aol as they won’t give the money back they took unless i write a letter to them. So we know who else loves the man (:

#618 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:30 pm

#591 sandipuma
what name was that? weird

#619 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:31 pm

#600 suzieforhill… LOL! The “library” post was sooo good… it feels really good to not let the bots get me down anymore!

#620 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:32 pm

I’m not a happy camper i have surgery tomorrow the one i was supposed to have last week. I want two shirts i will order them soon and i tried to download the flyers but can’t do it on this server. GROWLLLLLLLLLLL

#621 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:33 pm

Nope no pigs here…………but I do have two cats. Domestic ones………..and of course my husband and myself are proud PUMA’s

It is almost midnight here so all of you have a nice evening and I’ll see you tomorrow nite.

#622 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:33 pm

#598 Murphy
LMAO! I almost wet my pants Murphy! NO.

#623 mini vee on 06.16.08 at 11:33 pm

Wow, you guys are a rowdy bunch this evening. I got an email from ClintonDems asking its members to send letters to Dean tomorrow. I guess they are doing what we did today? The more the better I say!

#624 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 11:34 pm

Boy, everyone is crazy funny here tonight!!
Does anyone know how many of us PUMAS there are?

#625 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:34 pm

Night Suzie

#626 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 11:34 pm

Queen81 , anytime we have a blast, and hundreds of Hillary supporters there too! Makes it all the better!

#627 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:34 pm

well i mentioned one time on aol Obs name but not anything wrong and we are not allowed to mention that name on aol anymore or we lose our account and i have had aol for 12 years

#628 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 11:35 pm

#619 sandipuma

I hope your surgery goes well, we will think warm fuzzy thoughts for you :P

#629 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 11:35 pm

Who’s cats were hungry? Big Al’s endorsement has really got me down. Unbelievable.

#630 LizzyinCT on 06.16.08 at 11:35 pm

Maryland PUMA ~ I just saw you live outside Salisbury. I lived in Parsonsburg for 2 years and then Salisbury for 8 years! My brother is in Easton. and ….

Nightsky ~ my hometown is Towson! My parents are still there. :-)

small world ;-)

#631 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 11:35 pm

#574 goandersen
Love your ideas! Paper money and Post-Turtle! The New America!

Maybe someone could come up with the board game, “Post-Turtle,” for young up-and-comer kiddies? Sort of like “Monopoly” (Monopoly paper money replaced with Post-Turtle money), but the goal would be how to steal your way to the “Big Goal,” Leader of the Free World – not how to own the most real estate and have the most $’s. Heck, maybe that should be part of the game too….Board Game replicating reality, Obama/DNC style!

#632 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:35 pm

Everyone also knows that YouTube, FaceBook and Yahoo are all “You know who’s” supporters?

What happened to Free Speech? Did they force it to concede too?

#633 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:35 pm

wontbackdown

You know I really feel a lot better after Hillary’s email. I really think there is a message in there. I think I will have the best sleep tonight that I have had in weeks.

#634 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 11:36 pm

611 Jeremy,
Re: Cats, hungry cats see 283,291,297

#635 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:36 pm

To me that is so rediculous and where is our freedom of speech going and what about the constitution???

#636 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:37 pm

#628 Jeremy… me too for about a minute… They are losing this battle so everyone is trying to stop the bleeding, I think!

#637 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:37 pm

#607 KarlaforHillary
LMAO!
Suzieforhill and I were just adding on to michelle47′s post #528. LOL!

#638 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:37 pm

Karla

Murphy said yesterday that we had hit the 200,000 mark, but I wasn’t clear if that was just blog hits or what. Last time I saw a membership list, it was still in the upper hundreds (where people actually logged in and gave their names, states). Be nice to know.

#639 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:37 pm

See and i missed Hillarys letter too. it always came aol

#640 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 11:38 pm

#630 BrooklynNY

i like that game, we can call it Kool Aid – Chicago Style

#641 BrooklynNY on 06.16.08 at 11:38 pm

#626 sandipuma

What happened? Is there an entry explaining your aol situation? I’m trying to follow the posts about it, but it’s not easy, you’ve got my curiosity up….

#642 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:38 pm

Sandi

I haven’t received anything from the Hillary Campaign since I unsubscribe on June 4th. And I donated big bucks.

#643 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:38 pm

BrooklynNy

that board game could make a ton of money all kidding aside.

#644 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 11:38 pm

goandersen

Oh, now I get it about the pigs. Boy do I feel dumb! LOL

#645 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:38 pm

#630 BrooklynNY
Hey. Go for it. I bet it would sell in Chicago

#646 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 11:39 pm

Thanks SusyT @622. It was Trout or something like that. But got it now.

#647 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:39 pm

i’m sure thats the amount of members just in here.

#648 Maryland PUMA on 06.16.08 at 11:39 pm

anyone want the GROWL for tomorrow?

#649 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:39 pm

#643 KarlaforHillary
No, not dumb, you just missed part of the conversation.Didn’t you just get here??

#650 queen81 on 06.16.08 at 11:40 pm

Okay just a crazy idea coming from my tired east coast brain that has been up since 7am. we need something more visible then letters. what if we send the DNC bowling pins for two reasons..one it goes along with the BOWL acronym I see for “Barck Obama will Lose”…also tounge in cheek reference to Hillary’s april fool’s suggestion that she and BO have a bowl off for the nomination. WE can write our grievences on the pins…thousands of bowling pins would definately get their attention and maybe even some media coverage.

#651 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:40 pm

#647 Maryland PUMA
ME

#652 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:40 pm

#632 suzieforhill… me too, me too! She has truly had more of a powerful effect than they realized!

I can just hear her fabulous sense of humor in that email. We know her and she knows us! Now, how many candidates have you ever known like that?

I truly believe she is encouraging us on!

#653 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 11:40 pm

#644 go andersen

I am getting a stomach ache from laughing at you tonight.

#654 hazel eye on 06.16.08 at 11:41 pm

Sandipuma…
Hope you surgery goes well, let us know you are ok, we’ll be thinking of you!

Gotta go pick up my daughter from Baltimore airport, a long night drive ahead.

It’s been fun tonight, we will get thru this, everyone is so inspirational.

Thanks murphy for this opportunity to help make a difference!!

#655 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:41 pm

Oh wow Mayor sorry. Well realy all i got was a couple letters but they were from Lanny and i forget the other

#656 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:41 pm

#647 Maryland PUMA
How come your screen name shows up in two different ways?? Maryland PUMA and MarylandPUMA.

#657 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:41 pm

Wontbackdown

I left FACEBOOK three weeks ago and told them why. It meant that I couldn’t communicate with my daughter and son-in-law as easily. But they understood. In fact, my son-in-law checked with me to make sure I had indicated to FACEBOOK why I was leaving their space. He understood perfectly.

#658 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:42 pm

all i know they wanted me to donate to no name and no way

#659 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 11:42 pm

I saw someone mention a PUMA mug. Is there a store website?

#660 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:42 pm

#642 KarlaforHillary
well, murphy almost made me wet my pants when she asked if we were serious about the pigs! LOL!

#661 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:43 pm

#638 sandipuma and mayor… did you read it up top with the Link on #559?

#662 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 11:43 pm

#656 mayor0102

How do you leave facebook, I’ve been trying

#663 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:44 pm

#659 goandersen… I nearly fell out of my chair laughing too! That was too good, Murphy!

#664 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:44 pm

KarlaforHillary

I know we are in a good mood tonight. I think I said good nite three times and I keep looking at the clock wondering how much sleep is enough sleep…LOL

#665 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:44 pm

Queen 81 #649

Clever idea. BOWL (wow). The bowling pin idea is great. Will add that to the empty tea bag.

Are you new to the site? Welcome either way.

#666 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:44 pm

Thank you Hazel i hope so too. I’m sure i’ll be fine. I will just be in a lot of pain for awhile. But pain pills will help me get on the computer lol

#667 Maryland PUMA on 06.16.08 at 11:45 pm

Cuz I’m lazy!

#668 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:45 pm

Karla

ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Get some rest. You deserve it.

#669 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:46 pm

#657 sandipuma… not anymore… Hillary didn’t even mention BO or DNC and the picts and messages are so interesting! So on message!

#670 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:46 pm

Murphy is going to think we are nuts. See what getting involved in politics can do to a person……..LOL

#671 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 11:46 pm

#663 suzieforhill

I know, but I do really have to get going now–I think ;-)

#672 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:46 pm

#666 Maryland PUMA
Lazy?

#673 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:46 pm

Suzie

Sorry, Karla, I guess it was Suzie that needed the sleep. Maybe it’s me. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

#674 sandipuma on 06.16.08 at 11:47 pm

No wontbackdown i will go read it now Thanks

#675 TrishfromCanada on 06.16.08 at 11:47 pm

#670 KarlaforHillary

sweet dreams Karla

#676 queen81 on 06.16.08 at 11:47 pm

Mayor…thanks for the welcome, have been here a bit but don’t post too often.

#677 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:47 pm

wontbackdown

My husband said the same thing that Hillary did not mention backing bo……………….I only got good vibes from it.

#678 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 11:47 pm

Where can I get my puma t-shirt?

#679 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:47 pm

#665 Sandipuma
Surgery??? How all goes well. Will light a candle for you. When is it?

#680 KarlaforHillary on 06.16.08 at 11:48 pm

#672 mayor0102

I think we all probably need some sleep. Yawn

#681 southern voice on 06.16.08 at 11:48 pm

Hi y’all, Heard on TV here and there, that Mc Cain only has 20% of the Sen. Clinton supporters, it that. Where are these polls coming from? The DNC thinks Obama has about 61% of the female supporters. Who’s drinking the Koolaid? Anyway, Murphy asked for some clips and threads. There’s a great one on Savage Politics. That J. Cifre has been putting up one after another. The one I’m giving you the link to is something else. When you get to the link scroll down to the Obama video,after you see the video read from there and look at the videos from there down to the end of the page. WoW! http://www.savagepolitics.com/?p=725 After that you can go on the home page to read the others. He’s got some really good “stuff.” Later

#682 Maryland PUMA on 06.16.08 at 11:48 pm

goandersen – email me, I can’t find your edress?

marylandpuma@gmail.com

#683 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:48 pm

We’re loosing it :-) Pigs, tea bags, bowling pins, ships, turtles. Gosh, you’d think we were a zoo.

#684 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:48 pm

Night Karla!!! ;)

#685 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:48 pm

P.S. Whatever money is donated to Hillary’s campaign stays with Hillary’s campaign… it’s the law! She can’t give you know who over 1000.00 and every cent donated to her goes to her campaign.

That’s why you know who could only do special fundraisers to help her retire her debt… he can’t give to her campaign either.

#686 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 11:49 pm

Suzie for hill, come on get into your alley now before all the good spots are taken!

#687 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:49 pm

#682 mayor0102
just following Gore’s message of flocking to the light.
duh. animals don’t flock toward danger, Al.

#688 hazel eye on 06.16.08 at 11:50 pm

Sandipuma….I did not leave yet, take care and use those pain pills, I’ve been there three times just lately.

queen81 andbrooklynNY…bowling for turtle dollars on the boardwalk, how special!!

#689 Taffy on 06.16.08 at 11:50 pm

Several things people:
1. How are you getting the letters from Hillary with the puma stamps?
2. What happened to the video at the top of the post? It says no longer available.
3. I hit reply when I got a money request from the DNC and added a “sweet” note to it. I haven’t gotten another one in over 2 weeks!!
4. I think it would be great to send “tourist” post cards to Hillary from every possible city, state, university, etc. so she can see where we all come from. It would be great to have a 50 state response.
6. We were at the ball game tonight and there were blackhawk helicopters flying overhead from the convention center to the Pepsi Center where the convention takes place. Maybe a new mode of transport? Maybe we getting through? I mean these were the kind that can carry missles!!! The were practicing for well over an hour!!!!!!!! Supposed to be something coming up on the news about how the convention expenses are going to be covered. I’ll let you know.

But please, how are you getting the stamps?

#690 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:50 pm

I don’t believe the polls! It’s propaganda! You know who’s campaign is spinning too much rhetoric to not be feeling the fallout!

#691 Jeremy on 06.16.08 at 11:51 pm

Murphy! For everyone still online at this time—pat yourself on the back for what you have done in this cause. But let’s take a minute a give a Internet pat on the back to Murphy. We have thanked on the blog and many of you have thanked on emails. This takes time, talent, devotion, and courage. All of us have these things, but fortunately at different levels. Stay focused, on guard, and intent. And for “pat on the back #2″–look at all the newbies we have helped out here. Take a bow everyone!

#692 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:51 pm

OKAY, OKAY.. goodnight all. Peace, Love and PUMA PRINTS!

#693 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:51 pm

goanderson

I haven’t laugh this hard in a long time.

#694 sassysenora on 06.16.08 at 11:52 pm

#649 queen81 on 06.16.08 at 11:40 pm

i’m glad you brought that up. someone was talking about it a couple of days ago but i just thought of it about an hour ago (am very tired). we should try to think of something like the oranges from FL or the shoes. it should be easy to ship yet something that will sit around and get in the way (so they can’t ignore it).

ideas, anyone?

#695 SusyT on 06.16.08 at 11:52 pm

Sandi Puma,

Saying a prayer for you tomorrow! What time?

#696 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 11:52 pm

Hazel eye Have a safe drive. Maryland PUMA what’s the GROWL.

When people were upset about the cancelling of Las Vegas they started sending baby booties to the station, They were being delivered by the dozens. I think the bowling pin idea is funny, but getting enough might be difficult. We need an item that is readily available to all of us that represents our connection to Hillary that will fit in a Flat rate Priority mail box. It would cost about $10 to mail to the DNC. Or if we can find a smaller item we can use the flat rate Priority envelop for less than $5. Or how about a picture of a sheep with the caption “We will not fall in line” and send it in a regular envelop?

#697 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:52 pm

#687 hazel eyes
bowling for turtle dollars on the boardwalk! LOL!

#698 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:53 pm

YES! BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO! To Murphy and all PUMAS!

#699 kavala007 on 06.16.08 at 11:53 pm

Cheer up PUMA’s. Take a look at who is endorsing the selected one. Many of them have lost major elections or have folded under pressure. I personally take their endorsements with a “grain of salt” and so do many voters. Kerry and Kennedy of Massachusetts backed 61 but Hillary won the state.

#700 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:53 pm

#696 goandersen!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!! I must go to bed!!! LOL! LOL! LOL!

#701 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:54 pm

Murphy,
Pat Pat Pat,
Bravo!
Great Job!

#702 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:54 pm

#698 kavala007… VERY GOOD POINTS!!!

#703 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:54 pm

Taffy

I’ve added the postcard to my list of “to do” (from WA State to Hillary). I wonder if a postcard has to wait 2 -3 weeks in the Federal inspection area before its delivered to her office. Great ideas. Get posting these ideas.

#704 Middle age female on 06.16.08 at 11:54 pm

“629 LizzyinCT on 06.16.08 at 11:35 pm Maryland PUMA ~ I just saw you live outside Salisbury. I lived in Parsonsburg for 2 years and then Salisbury for 8 years! My brother is in Easton. and ….

Nightsky ~ my hometown is Towson! My parents are still there.

small world ”

I live near Easton also.

#705 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:55 pm

#699 wontbackdown
that was from hazel eyes! LOL!
Sweet Dreams!

#706 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:55 pm

sandipuma

I hope the surgery goes well and isn’t too involved.

#707 murphy on 06.16.08 at 11:55 pm

thanks goanderson :-)

#708 michelle47 on 06.16.08 at 11:56 pm

It is really amazing that all the supposed big name endorsments all came from losers, these yahoos aren’t rocket scientists are they!

#709 JGoldman1 on 06.16.08 at 11:56 pm

My Gramma lived in Salisbury, MD. I used to go there when I was a kid… very cool.

#710 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:56 pm

Goodnight All!

Goodnight Hillary, Bill, Chelsea, Maggie… thanks for the message! We needed it!

#711 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:56 pm

Nightsky #695

Ever been to the Dollar Store. One can buy lots of plastic bowling pins for a buck and they’re very light weight which would hardly cost anything.

#712 queen81 on 06.16.08 at 11:57 pm

OHHH I know…I have a small, light weight reversable stuffed wolf in sheeps clothing…now that’s a statement! wonder where to find them easily.

#713 Maryland PUMA on 06.16.08 at 11:57 pm

goandersen

make sure you have no beverage in your mouth when you open the GROWL

Ask murphy…..LOL

#714 wontbackdown on 06.16.08 at 11:57 pm

Oh… I am so punchy from laughing! Thanks hazeleyes!!! LOL! You all have made my night!

#715 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:58 pm

To the DNC:

A penny a day
A bowling pin a day
A pig a day (I don’t know where that came from :-)
A tea bag a day

Join in folks.

#716 nightsky on 06.16.08 at 11:59 pm

Sandipuma Will put you in my prayers tonight. Hope all goes well.

#717 suzieforhill on 06.16.08 at 11:59 pm

#695 nightsky

What about a package of Kool aid (lemonade flavor )

#718 goandersen on 06.16.08 at 11:59 pm

#706 Murphy
You are quite welcome Ms. Murphy. ;)

#719 wontbackdown on 06.17.08 at 12:00 am

Me too SandiPuma! Goodnight!

#720 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:00 am

#714 mayor
will keep the BO away

#721 suzieforhill on 06.17.08 at 12:00 am

Do they have a sour grape flavor…………..I am not into Kool aid …………….LOL

#722 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:00 am

PROPOSED ACTION THAT I”D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON:

1. i wanted to follow up on SDs. if we could get a list of SDs who supported BO against their district (state for Gov or Senator), maybe we could pressure them by getting ppl in their districts to email them and say they’re thinking of voting for their opponent since obviously the SD isn’t interested in what her/his consituents want. i think blanket emails to them are ok but the only thing most politicians really care about are money and votes. i think using both would be better than general emails.

2. antifish (?) had the link to HuffPO so we could find out who in our area gave money to Hillary. someone else had a link (to the FEC?) that would help us track down smaller donors. was this being organized in any way? i.e., are ppl in a given area getting together to decide who takes which zip codes? are ppl deciding to target swing states like OH, FL, PA, CO, MO, etc?

3. the letter that Brian and Elaine organized today was very good. (thanks to both of you for all your work!) i know Brian was trying to get press coverage for it.

i was wondering if we could coordinate with other PUMA type orgs so that two of the orgs do something big like that each week. that way, the press is more likely to pick up on at least some of it.

i have to try to remember the rest. i’ll post soon.

#723 michelle47 on 06.17.08 at 12:01 am

The boys in the dnc band may have to use the teabags for gonads, remember they haven’t got any!

#724 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:01 am

#712 Maryland PUMA
Now you tell me!

#725 wontbackdown on 06.17.08 at 12:01 am

We could also send them some “Correctol”

#726 JGoldman1 on 06.17.08 at 12:01 am

I just finished up with today’s work. I’m buried -I’ll get back to this work in a few days.

Take care all and goodnight. You’ve all done amazing work. I got the card from Hillary too. I’m leery of what she is going to say when she does get back “in touch”… It is what it is and think positive!

~JGoldman1

#727 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:02 am

#725 JGoldman1
Sweet Dreams. Keep the Faith

#728 nightsky on 06.17.08 at 12:02 am

Shows how tired I am. Thinking of real bowling pins. I’ll find a Dollar Store if we do this. Tea bags I have plenty.

How do I open the GROWL?

#729 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 12:02 am

I’ve got one ready to go from Denver. I think she has wonderful memories from the places she has visited and this would help keep her spirits up. Still haven’t heard how you got the puma stamps. I checked the map someone put up this morning and I’m the only one in this area that’s contributed! Also interesting is our neighbors used to have both Obama and Hillary signs in their yard. When Hillary suspended, hers went away. This weekend Obama’s went bye bye too! YAY!!!!

#730 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:02 am

#721 – i posted the above to find out if anyone had any info about these projects or ideas about them. sorry i wasn’t clear. i’m tired and my pets are going nuts.

#731 suzieforhill on 06.17.08 at 12:03 am

I like the teabags for the lack of gonads.

OOOPs…… it is 2 past midnite.

Nite to all of you.

#732 Maryland PUMA on 06.17.08 at 12:03 am

Nightsky -

The Daily Growl is PUMAPACs call to action for the day.

Please email me at marylandpuma@gmail.com and I will send you one.

They will be available tomorrow, along with all you might want to have, on pumapacusa.org.

:)

#733 queen81 on 06.17.08 at 12:04 am

would love to send kool aid but with our luck the DNC will see it as threatning like an anthrax scare, flag us with homeland security and open FBI files on all of us…know it sounds crazy, but i have seen enough to believe they would do it

#734 BrooklynNY on 06.17.08 at 12:04 am

Murphy,

What happened to the video that was at the top of this thread earlier this evening? I just tried to view it again and instead got a different one. That video is too important to disappear?!!! Where can we find it?!! I hope it’s not gone!

Re: #688 Taffy on 06.16.08 at 11:50 pm

2. What happened to the video at the top of the post? It says no longer available.

#735 michelle47 on 06.17.08 at 12:05 am

Good night everyone sweet dreams!

#736 mayor0102 on 06.17.08 at 12:05 am

Michell #677

Gear available at

pumapacusa.org/growls/growls.html
or
murphy@pumapac.org

#737 Jeremy on 06.17.08 at 12:06 am

Sassysora–I have several addresses within 10km that have made donations. I have printed out the flier and have made copies. I have put them in the mail with my 800 number and email.

#738 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:06 am

#714 mayor0102 on 06.16.08 at 11:58 pm

kool-aid (empty packs)
toy cats (for PUMAs)

#739 Maryland PUMA on 06.17.08 at 12:06 am

goandersen

ROFLMAO

I hope everyone reacts that way – took me a while to find the ‘right’ pic.

#740 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:07 am

#731 Maryland PUMA
The only thing missing is the sick donkey sound. LOL!
I can hear it though. Now , that is scary. LOL! sleep deprivation.

#741 Maryland PUMA on 06.17.08 at 12:07 am

Murphy,

Did we get a new logo and no one told me? :(

See the action site.

#742 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:08 am

#730 suzieforhill on 06.17.08 at 12:03 am

and for the symbolic Boston Tea party 2008 and for BO’s comment that all Hillary had done (WRT foreign policy) is to drink tea at ambassadors’ homes.

#743 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:08 am

#738 Maryland PUMA
It is perfect. Right on target. The media has to see that one.
LMAO!

#744 alohapuma on 06.17.08 at 12:09 am

Pumas

Probably late for most of you. I might repost this tomorrow. Here is a communication I received…names deleted. I copy it here because I think these are the women that have to be shaken awake…or should be just not bother?

*******************
I honestly don’t know what all this fuss is about.

When Bill Clinton was running for President, Hillary withstood what I believe has got to be one of the most humiliating experiences any woman could ever endure – having your husband’s dirty laundry and sexcapades made public. Can you imagine how not only Hillary but their daughter must have felt about it all?

Then as First Lady, she suffered even greater humiliation as her husband, the President of the United States, was exposed for carrying on an affair right under her nose in the White House, that became a public spectacle.

And you’re concerned about the way she was humiliated for her campaign practices? If Hillary is tough enough and thick skinned enough to weather the former storms, she was certainly tough enough to weather the current one.

I don’t think she is nearly as upset as you are __________ and I suspect she is not sitting around having a pity party.

Whether or not you supported her for the nomination, the fact is that she bickered and complained and often repelled others. And bickering and complaining is not an image that U.S. Presidents have represented in our history. If Hillary got defeated, then she did so as a result of her own agenda. If you are old enough to recall, can you imagine Golda Meir or Margaret Thatcher bickering and complaining? Indira Ghandi was another story – don’t know all the details but she was assassinated by her own bodyguards. She must have gotten someone angry, but I’ll get she wasn’t a complainer.

Hillary entered the lion’s den, she put up a good fight and that’s that. Any woman (or man for that matter) who enters that arena knows exactly what they can expect and are ready for it. But that’s when real grace and finesse will shine through.

As to many of the low blows that you refer to…well, all I can say is “consider the source.” If people lacking in reasonable intelligence or social breeding say and do things that are way out in the ozone, then just consider the source. Those are not the people who count. And by going over these insults over and over again, you’re just bringing yourself to that level and producing the very reactions they intended. I can’t see adding fuel to a fire that is no longer burning.

Often we cannot see the blessings in cirumstances until situations are played out. In our own lives, we see the blessings in hindsight. Well, it may be the very same with politics. We are aware of an immediate result. We are not yet aware of future results that can turn all of this around. And it really doesn’t do any good to bitch when we don’t have an aerial view.

Of course, I don’t pretend to speak intelligently about politics. I just know what I feel.

So that’s my 2000 cents. :-)

*******************
Good lord, I’m so disappointed in some women.

#745 Maryland PUMA on 06.17.08 at 12:09 am

For the info on the kool aid – check the action site at

http://www.pumapacusa.org

look under Daily Growl

That has all the info you need.

#746 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 12:09 am

Ha! Ha! Ha! Just on our news. DNC is asking Obama to have his fundraisers come up with the money still needed for the convention. People also asked about the helicopters and the army will only say there are some training exercises going on but won’t confirm it has anything to do with the convention. HELLO! Trips from the convention center roof to the Pepsi Center has nothing to do with the campaign? But I’m just an uneducated (not!) Hillary supporter.

#747 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:09 am

#737 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:06 am

sheep
zombies
gravestones (e.g., from cardboard)
pictures of the BOrg with an line drawn through

#748 Jazzd on 06.17.08 at 12:10 am

Al Gore = always the bridesmaid, never the bride. So is he gunning for a VP post again ? Isn’t that like not progressing ? His speech is so contrived it is sad. Can you believe if anyone backing Obama doesn’t have their own agenda ?

Maybe they think they can bring this Young Black Rookie around to their agenda if he gets elected..

#749 webfoot on 06.17.08 at 12:11 am

#453 trishfromcanada. Loved your poem. Copied it and sent it in an email to Hillary. Gave credit to a PUMA and told her I wished I had written it. Beautifully done. Also thanked her for the photo album today. What a beautiful gift to us that album was today.

#750 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:11 am

#740 Maryland PUMA
I think that is just for the action site. I think??
Murphy?

#751 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:12 am

#743 alohapuma on 06.17.08 at 12:09 am

thanks for trying. is the person political? is she a rabid Obama supporter?

#752 murphy on 06.17.08 at 12:12 am

Maryland Puma 740, of course not!
That’s the background the marvelous dcinvegas designed for flyers.
you still reign as logo-puma!

#753 TrishfromCanada on 06.17.08 at 12:12 am

How about sending gobstoppers that would get th emessage through

#754 antifish on 06.17.08 at 12:13 am

Holy Cow! There are 743 comments on this thread that wasn’t even up when I left around 3 PM! Wow, we are growing so fast!

Hey, whoever is here. I just came back from a kick ass concert!

So, who is still here?

#755 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:13 am

#738 Maryland PUMA on 06.17.08 at 12:06 am

what pic?

#756 TrishfromCanada on 06.17.08 at 12:14 am

heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy antifish

how are you?

#757 Lara08 on 06.17.08 at 12:14 am

Re: post #680

BO knows McCain has more than 20% of HC’s women supporters. That’s why they started running campaign ads on Lifetime channel.

Goodnight all. -Lara08

#758 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:15 am

#750 sassysenora
sounds menopausal to me. It will pass. Trust me.

#759 Maryland PUMA on 06.17.08 at 12:15 am

Oh antifish

I have the new Daily Growl

You will LOVE it.

Just make sure you have NO beverage in your mouth when you open it.

Ask goandersen and murphy!

#760 antifish on 06.17.08 at 12:15 am

Hey Sassy, Murphy, Trish, webfoot, Jazzd and goandersen!

#761 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:15 am

NIght Lara08

#762 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:15 am

YO antifish!
Were been?

#763 murphy on 06.17.08 at 12:16 am

Folks, gotta call it a night — up early for some exciting new posts and actions.
The Daily Growl for tomorrow is an absolute howl.

I’ll let out a troll for your amusement and protein fix. Feel free to eat him alive, but don’t be too cruel (he’s not the brightest bulb in Obama’s halo).

Great, great day of action today. thanks once again to Knoxville.

Tomorrow is another day!

#764 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:16 am

#744 Maryland PUMA on 06.17.08 at 12:09 am

thanks for the kool-aid action alert link.

#765 antifish on 06.17.08 at 12:16 am

Ok, Maryland, I’ll go check it out. Be right back!

#766 BrooklynNY on 06.17.08 at 12:16 am

#743 alohapuma

Did you get that email from someone you know? Not to give out any names, in general terms, what was its source? Personal friend? Or forwarded group email?

#767 queen81 on 06.17.08 at 12:16 am

antfish…who’s concert?

#768 Maryland PUMA on 06.17.08 at 12:16 am

sassy

It’s on tomorrow’s Daily GROWL.

If you want, email me at marylandpuma@gmail.com

#769 bruce555 on 06.17.08 at 12:17 am

Just watched a little of Al Gore, couldn’t stand a lot, to me he looked a little too uninspiring, he’s forcing his words. Curious as to what’s going on behind the scenes!

#770 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:18 am

#752 TrishfromCanada on 06.17.08 at 12:12 am

i’m tired. is there a connection between gobstoppers and BO or HRC or the DNC?

i think i’m missing something bc here they’re called jawbreakers.

#771 Maryland PUMA on 06.17.08 at 12:18 am

Gnite Murphy, I’m off to bed soon too.

And stay off the other blogs – get some sleep!

(I been watchin you – LOL, just kidding, saw your name.)

#772 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:18 am

Night Murphy
Sweet Dreams
LOL! you mean one loop short of a knot?

#773 SusyT on 06.17.08 at 12:19 am

goandersen and murphy,

Stepped away for about 10 minutes…do I need to let the cats out?????????

#774 admin on 06.17.08 at 12:19 am

Troll warning….
“Out of curiosity, what makes you all so adamant about Hillary? The only major difference between her and Barack was foreign policy. So is it because you lean more towards the Bush foreign policy?”
from Moe

#775 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:20 am

Night Maryland PUMA
Thanks for the laughs!

#776 TrishfromCanada on 06.17.08 at 12:20 am

I received a very nice e-mail from Moretta Bosley, Kentucky in resonse ot the e-mails i sent yesterday

#777 mini vee on 06.17.08 at 12:20 am

Southern voice, if what the polls are saying is true that would mean 70%-80% of Hillary supporters have “flocked” to BO and his popularity would spike. I watched a video today from Assoc. Press saying that the Dems are disappointed that ‘the one’ is in a statistical dead heat with McCain in the polls…even with unpopular Bush. They say if BO doesn’t improve his numbers by fall, that could spell trouble for the Dems. That’s what they get for picking an empty suit.

#778 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:21 am

#744 admin
where? here?
Pounce Mode

#779 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:22 am

#746 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 12:09 am

thanks for the report.

i’m not surprised the DNC wants the Obama $$$$. i think that’s why they wanted HRC out so quickly. HRC supporters won’t give the DNC $$$ bc we’re PO’d. BO supporters want to give all their $$$ to BO so the DNC and other candidates will need to rely on BO. which pushes the DNC to side with BO in order to get $$$. it’s crass and ugly.

have you heard if the million woman march will be able to get a permit?

#780 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:22 am

#766 TrishfromCanada
really? what did it say. leave the name off. trolls are lurking

#781 goodcitizen on 06.17.08 at 12:23 am

Comrades, Sun shines after the rain. We, Hillary supporters are stronger than ever. As long as we can breath, we can have hope. This is our Hillary’s spirit.

#782 SusyT on 06.17.08 at 12:23 am

#778 goandersen

Saw that! Pounce mode activated!

#783 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:24 am

#777
The polls are rigged for propaganda purposes only.

#784 xdemocrat on 06.17.08 at 12:24 am

Are there any PUMAS in Hawaii? Do any PUMAS have a friend in Hawaii? We’re still hunting for a copy of someone’s 1961 Honolulu Birth Certificate to see what’s on it. We can redact identifying info.

#785 CTKEY on 06.17.08 at 12:24 am

My response back to Al Gore which I believe will go back to the DNC…

Dear Al Gore,

I have admired you, voted for you and have supported your efforts with global warming. However, I cannot do what you ask of me now. I cannot support Senator Obama for President. The DNC has made a mockery of our democracy. As all I have is my vote, I will not squander it on a candidate that lacks experience, has a questionable character and who simply cannot unite this nation under his leadership. He has failed miserably as a uniter of the Democratic party.

I have never been a follower, nor will I be one this time. I will not blindly follow a party. There are many like me, and we are finding our way to have our voices heard and our votes count.

Thank you Al Gore for your e-mail and I will check out your website.

I signed it with my name and PUMA…

#786 mayor0102 on 06.17.08 at 12:24 am

Well, now that everyone is asleep, I might as well go watch TV. But one last try here. I still laughing.

To the DNC:

A penny a day
A bowling pin a day
A pig a day (I don’t know where that came from)
A tea bag a day
A package of Correctol for a week
A package of Koolaid (lemonade, sour grape so far)
A Get Well Card a day

Join in folks.

A take off on Margaret Wise Brown’s GoodNight Moon:

Goodnight Moon, Goodnight Star
Goodnight Friends who are afar
Goodnight Cats with lots of care
Goodnight PUMAs everywhere!

#787 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:24 am

#782 SusyT
Phist Phist

#788 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:26 am

776 TrishfromCanada on 06.17.08 at 12:20 am

that’s nice of her. i’m glad you’re letting the Clinton SDs know we appreciate them. they probably need something to lift their spirits.

#789 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:28 am

#786 mayor0102
I can’t think any more.
A turtle a day

#790 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:29 am

“Out of curiosity, what makes you all so adamant about Hillary? The only major difference between her and Barack was foreign policy. So is it because you lean more towards the Bush foreign policy?”
from Moe

there were many other differences between Obama and HRC. they were more significant to me than foreign policy. although her foreign policy experience (and BO’s inexperience and general lack of knowledge about foreign affairs) also factored into my support for her.

#791 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:30 am

Troll,
Experience, stupid!

#792 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:30 am

#789 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:28 am

i’d like to send them a turtle. it would probably die, though, so that wouldn’t work. but i love the thought.

#793 mini vee on 06.17.08 at 12:31 am

Taffy, are you in Denver?

#779 sassysenora
Million woman March has changed its name to 18millionvoices to be inclusive. I have been in contact with a coordinator there and she/he told me they applied for the permit but have not heard. I was told by someone in ClintonForum that they have acquired a permit so at least one group has.

#794 webfoot on 06.17.08 at 12:31 am

#641 mayor0102 You can send an email to Hillary at her website and check the box to get emails from her. Oh, and sorry for calling you a “he” in a prior post.

#795 antifish on 06.17.08 at 12:31 am

OK, Maryland, were there supposed to be graphics in the Growl? If, so, I’m not receiving them. I really don’t like gmail. I’m going to give you my aol address through gmail. My main address is Comcast, but I kept AOL from back in the days when I had dial up.

The concert I went to tonight was Cindy Lauper’s True Colors Concert. This is its second year. It’s to benefit the LGBT community. Part of the proceeds go to the Human Rights Campaign. Carson Kressley was the host and he actually came over to where I was sitting, so I got to meet him briefly. Rosie O’Donnell was there. She was really funny, but she kinda told everyone to vote for BO, which pissed me off. The applause was rather tepid, though, so that’s a good sign. One of the other bands there was the B-52s, which are from near here, in Athens, I’ve seen them many times and I just love them. The other bands that played were from Canada. One was called Click. A very good band. The other were two young sisters fronting a band. They were also very good, but I’d have to find my program to name them. Overall the concert was wonderful. The venue is called Chastain Amphitheater and it’s a nice open air arena, not very large, and kinda intimate.

#796 TrishfromCanada on 06.17.08 at 12:31 am

#770 sassysenora

yes gobstoppers are jawbreakers, was thinking of what we could at to the list of things to send obama’s people

#797 mayor0102 on 06.17.08 at 12:32 am

To the DNC:

A penny a day
A bowling pin a day
A pig a day (I don’t know where that came from)
A tea bag a day
A package of Correctol for a week
A package of Koolaid (lemonade, sour grape so far)
A Get Well Card a day
A sheep
A zombie
A gravestone (e.g., from cardboard)
A picture of the BOrg with an line drawn through
Pieces of play money from monoply
A jawbreaker

#798 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:32 am

# 792 sassysenora
send a little plastic one, glue it on a dowel. Do you think they would get it? LOL!
Send the joke with it.

#799 fedupdem2008 on 06.17.08 at 12:33 am

(sorry if repeat post–not sure which thread to post to be the most current info..?)

HELLO FELLOW WARRIORS;)

RE: Barbara Streisand & BO Endorsement! (& a lil bit on Gore’s too…& why it’s always in MI!)

But first a lil pep up;-)
LaRouche & his pac have insider view of primary & conventions (having run for Prez few times)
http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2008/06/12/howard-dean-schemes-shut-down-democratic-convention.html

OK.
SO, another big endorsement in MICHIGAN for BO – GORE now, Edwards bf. This must be his way of making MI ppl forget he took his name off their ballot, voted against their full vote, etc. Even the Gov, who stayed with HRC as long as she could, had to do the warm up speech…someone has a petition up for her to endorse BO, and reports state that more than half of MI delegates support BO! It’s things like this which allow ppl like BO & Dean to do, act, say things that are expedient then but never have to face its repercussions later!!! argh!!! (or, on the faint chance they do, it will be years & years later, after they’ve already gotten what they want…eg, Florida lawsuit against the GOP for 2000, is still in working stage!)

Gore introduces BO as Solver of Problems……EXCUSE ME!?!!–Isn’t this ALSO one of HRC’s phrases & talking points???!!! So the continued copying of HRC’s speech/policy points continues, with no one calling him to account to the public, or otherwise…!! sheesh.
http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/17/us/politics/17campaign.html&OQ=_rQ3D1&OP=1cb9fdeQ2F(vHQ3E(jUPZuUUXQ3C(Q3CeeC(eQ7D(0k(AZ(Q5BUQ25)X)PZ(0kPQ60Q5EQ5BQ60)Q24Q5DtQ2BXQ5EQ25

(Streisand is on next post–easier to read this way;)

#800 DJ on 06.17.08 at 12:34 am

Just sent a scathing email to Al Gore. Finally he speaks out – but in support of Obama? Where was his and every party leader’s voice when Hillary was being so insulted by the media. I feel abandoned by the Democratic Party. Although there are many PUMAs who will vote for McCain, I cannot. His views are too different from Hillary’s. But I can’t bring myself to vote for Obama. If only Hillary would run as an Independant I bet she would win. This may be the first election that my vote may be a non vote. Also, I received an email from Womencountpac.com They seem to be planning another ad this week with the following headline “We’re still here. We’re listening. And we’re not going away.” I received an email with the full text of the ad, but this new ad doesn’t appear to be up on their web site, so I’m not sure if this ad – and request for donations – is legit or not. Their web site is http://www.womencountpac.com

#801 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:34 am

#797 mayor
where’s the turtle on a stick?

#802 CTKEY on 06.17.08 at 12:35 am

#744…Thank you for posting. I don’t agree with you, but you have a voice and I respect that. I do think that Hillary knew what she was getting into when she entered the race. Was she perfect ? No. But she was the best thing that has through in a generation. It is unfortunate that the circumstances surrounding the primary has led to PUMA and the other groups protesting the election. It is even more unfortunate that the candidiate with the most votes is not the nominee and the Presumptive One is just engulfed in …well…in BO-ness.

Good night fellow PUMAs and thank you for being here.

#803 mayor0102 on 06.17.08 at 12:35 am

To the DNC:

A penny a day
A bowling pin a day
A pig a day (I don’t know where that came from)
A tea bag a day
A package of Correctol for a week
A package of Koolaid (lemonade, sour grape so far)
A Get Well Card a day
A sheep
A zombie
A gravestone (e.g., from cardboard)
A picture of the BOrg with an line drawn through
Pieces of play money from monoply
A jawbreaker
A turtle a day (lots of plastic ones)

#804 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:35 am

A penny a day
A bowling pin a day
A pig a day (I don’t know where that came from)
A tea bag a day
A package of Correctol for a week
A package of Koolaid (lemonade, sour grape so far)
A Get Well Card a day
a turtle a day
a sheep a day
a zombie a day
a gravestone (e.g., from cardboard) a day (for reports
that BO’s voter drive registered a lot of dead folks
and pets)
a pictures of the BOrg with an line drawn through it a
day ( i ws thinking of the StarTrek BOrg but it could
be the BO BOrg)
a toy cat (for PUMAs) a day

#805 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:36 am

#799 DJ
It is curious why none of them spoke up for Hillary.
Maybe their lives are being threatened. I would not put anything past No Name.

#806 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:37 am

LOL! mayor0102

#807 mayor0102 on 06.17.08 at 12:37 am

To the DNC:

A penny a day
A bowling pin a day
A pig a day (I don’t know where that came from)
A tea bag a day
A package of Correctol for a week
A package of Koolaid (lemonade, sour grape so far)
A Get Well Card a day
A sheep
A zombie
A gravestone (e.g., from cardboard)
A picture of the BOrg with an line drawn through
Pieces of play money from monoply
A jawbreaker
A turtle a day (and a turtle on a stick for goanderson)

#808 fedupdem2008 on 06.17.08 at 12:37 am

(contg on, re: Streisand & Info LINKS)

But on to a big ACTION initiative PUMAs!!:
BARBARA STREISAND supporting BO now. This is serious bc not only did Streisand endorse HRC, but she did it the day after everyone went gaga over Oprah’s endorsement of BO, which blunted his moment. Also, BO is wanting BS to attract Jewish voters, & HRC’s ‘voting base’ – ie, ‘white middle aged/older women’ & those of BS generational touchpoint. Plus he’s wanting BS to sing for him like she did for Bill C., and he wants all of HRC’s celebrity fundraisers!!!

I believe BS had to be persuaded so bf she commits to too many events for BO or her decision settles firmly in her mind – We must implore her to NOT endorse BO — & WHY!!!
Not only bc of all the reasons we’ve mentioned to date: CAUCUS Fra,ud busing voters fm Chicago to other states;
his real reasons for removing his name fm MI ballot, BO’s HYPOCRISY, stemming fm his own tactics fm Ill Senate race;
DNC Rules decision & its double standard with the rest of DNC’s rules (ie, those rules that would have hurt BO’s chance);
Media coverage of HRC & in its extreme opposite for BO, DNC Dean Pelosi Reid’s party elites lack of support & public condemnation of media’s mysogeny of HRC;
whole-scale revision of the DNC party (moving to Chicago, removing all leadership positions to fill with BO loyalists, the junior status of BO’s supporters (ie, mostly first term governors or junior senators who will have an ‘in’ with BO if he is Prez);
AND whatever the SOROS & DEAN connection is, whatever Soros, Ariana, & HuffPo’s agenda fm before the Primaries began, what & why is Soros so invested in electing BO??);
the thuglike actions of not only BO’s supporters thruout the primaries, but now w/ his internet thought police but Dean & DNC’s elites thuglike manipulations threats etc against its own party delegates to remove or threaton into compliance any and all who DON’t support BO bf the Convention in Aug;
Dean’s feverish work to prevent a roll call at the Convention;
AND BO & Dean’s constant pressure on HRC to release her delegates now;
basically doing everything they can to prevent the Convention fm being a political convention w/ debate but a rock star coronation for BO & the ‘New Democratic Party’;
That all these mafialike tactics only substantiate what her 18 Million+ voters know—Just why BO, Dean, Pelosi & DNC Elites’ are so desperate to stop any and all possible means of anyone expressing their, differing opinions fm them, at least fm now until Nov,: because BO’s candidacy is ILLEGITIMATE!!! Not symbolically, LEGALLY illegitimate. Illegitimate as per even DNC RULES – AND NO ONE IS SPEAKING OUT ABOUT IT, NOR SPEAKING UP FOR THE REGULAR PEOPLE, LOYAL DEMOCRATS & just free speech in principle;
AND etc etc etc etc etc ETC reasons!!!!

***ALSO, contacting BS might just be THE PERSON to make our case public & credible in media & pop culture information sources!!!:-)

I’m sure BS is so busy her personal assistants will receive & read her emails—but if she gets a lot of emails continuously for the same complaints, requests etc, they may bring it to BS’s personal attn. Also, does anyone out there w/more ties to entertainment industry have other means of contacting BS??! Bc, of course, the sooner the better to reach her;-)

Here are some general addresses I found on web:

She seems to have over 6 or 9 addresses, according to some celeb sites, but they are paid membership to find the full addresses…anyone a member of one of these?;-)

This is one of top sites for BS; he has a link to her official site, which actually works;) Check out BS’s links of interest! (uh oh, she reads Kos, but also DD & others)
***Perhaps she will add Puma & JustSayNoDeal!!
http://www.barbranews.com/

This site only lists info @2006 – current? It is for her music label (Columbia & Sony).
http://www.barbra-streisand.com/contact.html
questions or comments to:
Barbra Streisand
c/o Martin Erlichman Associates, Inc.
5670 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 2400
Los Angeles, CA 90036

This article talks of BS endorsement of HRC & How Influential it is to ALL VOTERS, even Iowa!; Plus it lists some of Hollywood’s big hitters who have endorsed HRC, BO (for contacting by PUMA dems!:-D )
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/29/how-that-streisand-endorsement-came-about-hint-not-like-buttah/

Babs & HRC clash…? (fm early primaries; just insight into ties btn BS & HRC)
http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=9&num=11592

Streisand’s personal spokeswoman, Marge Tabankin, says talks are underway with the campaign in Chicago to decide what exact role Streisand will play in the presumptive Democratic nominee’s efforts to win the White House. Obama’s Hollywood supporters are hopeful that she will sing for the senator, as she did for Bill Clinton during his presidential runs, at one of the many fundraisers in the works for this summer.
Streisand changes tune for Obama
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-streisand.html

Obama launches charm offensive to win over Clinton’s Hollywood fans
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/2128689/US-Election-2008-Barack-Obama-tries-to-win-over-Hillary-Clinton's-Hollywood-fans.html

Historians predict BO landslide against McCain (so maybe 18 mil votes really isn’t impt to Dean & DNC? Plus they have all of Soros’ coffers & connections…!)
http://decision08.net/2008/06/15/scholars-for-obama/http://decision08.net/2008/06/15/scholars-for-obama/

BUT bf we get too dispirited, here’s an interesting new twist in polls;
http://donklephant.com/2008/06/15/gallup-obama-leads-mccain-by-2-2/

HaHa!—how can we exacerbate their continuing money-struggles?;-P
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/denvers-money-struggles-continue/

Interesting pov, & why he’s not posting any more pro-BO stuff (BO’s speech on Sun ab education & race)
http://www.prometheus6.org/node/21306

(final part of this post next; easier to find info;)

#809 nightsky on 06.17.08 at 12:37 am

I’m so excited I just ordered my PUMA Tshirt. Dick Morris is on the repeat of Hannity. He is such a jackass.
We can vote for McCain because with a Democratic Congress they won’t overturn Roe. He can’t see any further than the end of his nose.

#810 antifish on 06.17.08 at 12:37 am

#793 mini vee,

I’m glad they changed the name. We have to be more aware of our brother Pumas. I often feel like some of us take for granted that this is a woman’s movement. It’s not. My 23 year old son is just as pissed as I am about what happened. He won’t be going to Denver because he promised to watch my two little Shih Tzus, but he’ll be there in spirit. He caught all kinds of flack on his college campus for having a Hillary sticker on his car, but could have cared less. He’s my hero!

#811 Jeremy on 06.17.08 at 12:37 am

hey goandersen–you seem savy. “michelle47″ “queen81″ and”southernvoice?” If I missed a “Pass Go” code, then I am a fish that needs some training. Maybe it is just late. Nets needed with those?

#812 mayor0102 on 06.17.08 at 12:37 am

I’m out of here. Someone else can pick it up. Love yah all.

#813 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:38 am

suggestions for things to send to DNC:
(am trying to keep one list – mayor0102, do you want to keep it? that’s fine with me)

Pieces of play money from monoply each day
A jawbreaker/gobstopper a day
A penny a day
A bowling pin a day
A pig a day (I don’t know where that came from)
A tea bag a day
A package of Correctol for a week
A package of Koolaid (lemonade, sour grape so far)
A Get Well Card a day
a turtle a day
a sheep a day
a zombie a day
a gravestone (e.g., from cardboard) a day (for reports
that BO’s voter drive registered a lot of dead folks
and pets)
a pictures of the BOrg with an line drawn through it a
day ( i ws thinking of the StarTrek BOrg but it could
be the BO BOrg)
a toy cat (for PUMAs) a day

any other suggestions?

#814 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:38 am

Night CTKEY
Thanks for your thoughts

#815 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:39 am

#809 Jeremy
huh?

#816 queen81 on 06.17.08 at 12:39 am

Antifish, I was at true colors in chastain park last year! loved it when they closed the show with ABBA take a chance on me…the girlfriend’s work schedule prevented us from going this year…i’m in SC where are you?

#817 Middle age female on 06.17.08 at 12:39 am

“774 admin on 06.17.08 at 12:19 am Troll warning….
“Out of curiosity, what makes you all so adamant about Hillary? The only major difference between her and Barack was foreign policy. So is it because you lean more towards the Bush foreign policy?”
from Moe”

Nah – too easy. I’ll let someone else growl.

#818 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:39 am

#798 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:32 am

great idea!

#819 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 12:39 am

How about a countdown email. Each day an email something like 200 days til President McCain or however many days. Have to figure it out, then send hundreds of email countdowns from Puma members each day. Sort of a 99 bottles on the wall type. Cheap and effective. Would just take everybody a few minutes a day.

#820 mayor0102 on 06.17.08 at 12:40 am

Go sassy. Be the keeper of the list.

#821 queen81 on 06.17.08 at 12:40 am

also, think the two girls were teagan and sarah

#822 bruce555 on 06.17.08 at 12:40 am

#799 DJ, this has been my feeling all along too, that Hillary should branch out on her own.
The DNC, well, we know what they did to her and to us and to the party, and the republicans, I’m not sure. Only if I have to, I’ll vote for McCain but I’d rather so so so so much vote for Hillary Clinton!

#823 fedupdem2008 on 06.17.08 at 12:40 am

(here’s the conclusion of 2 previous posts;)

Uh ok, I had earlier posted ideas of high profile ppl who can call attn to our cause & to all the ‘irregularities’ of BO camp tactics — I had listed possibilities as George SOROS, whom I just learned might be in leagues w/Arianna & HuffPost to elect BO & behind-the-scene “shadow convention” dude (sounds ominous; what’s he got planned at the DNC Convention??!). So forget that idea, heh…Altho~ some letters to Soros might get thru to him that there are other “civic society” principles than just his personal preferences…If he really believed in his causes, he would be able to see it from all sides…!

But I still think Mike MOORE & JERRY SPRINGER are viable choices for raising publicity of PUMA etc. (Moore will likely need a lot of persuasion—but if, as w/Soros, if he really believes in his own documentaries, championing the ‘common man’, he should be able to see it from all sides too!) And SPRINGER already has been on MSNBC (Abrams) & FOX (don’t remember show), so he’s got a platform there already!:)
DNC & DEAN continues his silent treatment, thus also not wide publicity ab his tactics, etc. Need a way to bring all this out & loud to the public & MSM…I’m working on emails but dunno if it will get thru….Any thoughts out there…?

Finally, not to leave u all with only downers;) — If you, like me, miss not having HRC daily, and tho even if it was mainly negative coverage on TV, it was still a plus bc you got to see & hear her, & feel connected to her…sigh. I hope she comes back into our life again soon! (And w/ her as PREZ, we’d be able to see her lots! (never mind the Bush-Cheny admin, who didn’t believe in public appearances, or talking to regular ppl! Sometimes forget that isn’t the usual way of Prez/VP!)
So here’s sth for all of us:-)

She’s on the cover of New York Magazine (& looks fab!), & from excerpt I read, it won’t be a hatchet job, or a ‘positive” article that’s really a negative article by pointing out all her ‘undesirable characteristics’ that are now not in question after the primary(eye rolls galore~!;)

What Clinton Won by Losing
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/new-york-magazine-what-clinton-won-by-losing/

GO PUMAS GO!
RISE HILLARY RISE!!

#824 goodcitizen on 06.17.08 at 12:40 am

All those OB supporters will be sorry in ten years. His cult movement will be laughable and regret! I just hope our country will not be suffered more.

#825 TrishfromCanada on 06.17.08 at 12:41 am

#780 goandersen

i’ll paste the best part “I am doing everything in my power to get her elected. I will stay with her until she releases her delegates. Remember not all super delegates supported Obama, over 1900 of us are committed Hillary supporters and are staying with her.”

#826 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:42 am

#793 mini vee on 06.17.08 at 12:31 am

thanks for the info and the new name. i knew they’d changed it but couldn’t remember the new name. i like that the name is more inclusive but i’ll probably have problems remembering it.

i hope they get the permit. i wonder if the ACLU is involved? they’re usually good at speaking up for things like that.

#827 Jeremy on 06.17.08 at 12:42 am

Sounds stupid. Sorry. They just don’t seem like the real deal. (T)

#828 NativeFlower on 06.17.08 at 12:43 am

hi all… isn’t it SAD how the DNC, after screwing over half the party, is pulling now out the big guns now… using Gore in a desperate attempt to woo back the disenfranchised… I see it as a clear indication that they KNOW they’re in trouble! what’s sad is as much as I admire both Gore AND Hillary, I know that deep in their hearts they don’t believe this uhhh, inarticulate, uhhhh, illegitmate, uhhhh, forcably installed POS nominee to be the best person for the job. How could they not also be offended by nobama’s deeply troubling and telling attendance @ TUCC for 20 yrs and his inexcusable bigoted remarks and his surrogate reprehensible behavior during the primary season??? not to mention the anti-white/exclusively ProBlack agenda and ridiculously anti-American statements made his disgraceful wife? I know that Gore and UNDOUBTEDLY Hillary truly are not endorsing this bozo because they think he is an honorable man. They are doing it because they are career politicians and would endorse ANY candidate for the Democratic Party.

p.s. loved the video of Diane Mantouvalos of JustSayNoDeal.com on FoxNews! YOU GO GIRL!:
http://www.justsaynodeal.com/ijustsaynodeal.html

#829 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 12:43 am

Obama on Nightline. Says McCain going to have a hard time winning women’s votes. Says McCain doesn’t understand women but Bo does!!! Says we can crack down on terrorists within constitution by arresting, trials, and put in prison. Narrator says if he gets nomintion going to make primaries look like spring break. McCain going on attack already :)

#830 mini vee on 06.17.08 at 12:44 am

Antifish, my husband didn’t start out liking Hillary but he respects her so much now. He told me he got that email from Gore asking for a donation and hit unsubscribed immediately. We still proudly have our Hillary signs all over our house. It’s not coming down!

#831 antifish on 06.17.08 at 12:45 am

How about a picture of a turtle stuck on a post-it note?
We could include the joke with it.

#832 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:45 am

#821 fedupuma
Michael Moore supports BO and Jerry Springer??

#833 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:46 am

#829 antifish
You catch an quick little anti. good idea. less postage too.

#834 mini vee on 06.17.08 at 12:46 am

Says McCain doesn’t understand women but Bo does!!!

Of course he does sweetie. I say by mid week, he’ll be on the tube talking about McCain and his overturning Roe vs. Wade…yawn. Next.

#835 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:48 am

#827 Taffy
no name doesn’t even understand the mess he is in let alone women! Another condescending remark.
What a M—-F—A—H
sorry

#836 antifish on 06.17.08 at 12:49 am

828 mini vee,

Last week, I got a letter from Gore seeking contributions on behalf of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, of which I was a member. I used the prepaid envelope to sent them a scathing letter along with my membership card cut in half. I also asked them to remove me from their mailing list! I’m not playing around with these people any more. I just wish I could get back all the money I gave them over the years. Ingrates!

#837 TrishfromCanada on 06.17.08 at 12:49 am

#817 Taffy

200 days til President Clinton!!

#838 webfoot on 06.17.08 at 12:49 am

Troll: The difference…hmm, the President of the United States of America is not an entry level position.

#839 mini vee on 06.17.08 at 12:49 am

Sassysenora, i hope they get the permit. i wonder if the ACLU is involved?

It’s just one big mess right now. ACLU actually threaten the city with a lawsuit for dragging its feet on releasing the permit for rallies and protests. Last I heard, they said that all the permits are gone. I’m going to be really po’ed if they all went to pro-BO groups.

#840 mini vee on 06.17.08 at 12:51 am

Way to go Antifish! I left the party May 31st. BTW, are you the one from the bay area?

#841 Dragonfly on 06.17.08 at 12:52 am

I am so behind on the posts! TrishfromCanada – thank you for the links! goandersen, you kill me you are so damn funny. Maryland Puma, love the idea of the Puma stamps! And I agree goandersen, it could not have been an accident that the puma stamp was used!

#842 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 12:52 am

#793 mini vee sorry, was watching the excuse maker making excuses. Yes, I’m in Denver. Getting VERY tense here.

#843 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:52 am

#834 antifish
you got a letter? ooooooo: I can’t wait for mine!

#844 webfoot on 06.17.08 at 12:53 am

As much as all these posts are tonight, I need to head to bed. Will catch up tomorrow.

#845 Dragonfly on 06.17.08 at 12:53 am

#837 mini vee – permits all gone? I would love to find out who got them. is it public record?

#846 webfoot on 06.17.08 at 12:53 am

Oops, “as much fun”…see I need to get to bed!

#847 antifish on 06.17.08 at 12:54 am

#819 queen,

I think you’re right! Have you been to the concert?

#848 fedupdem2008 on 06.17.08 at 12:54 am

re #7(?)

However, C.MATTHEWS started out in the PEACE CORPS!

Last year, i think, Matthews said he is now Independent; & said he is in favor of gay marriage-that everyone has a right to be happy (paraphrasing)

#849 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:54 am

night webfoot
sweet dreams!

#850 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:55 am

#839 Dragonfly
Have you seen the next Growwl?

#851 Jeremy on 06.17.08 at 12:56 am

Admin please delete #809 and #825. Thanks!

#852 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 12:56 am

Dragonfly
It will be up tomorrow am. Too funny. It’s the get well card.

#853 queen81 on 06.17.08 at 12:56 am

#845 antifish…yes was there last year at chastain park as well…the girlfriend’s schedule didn’t permit it this year…we’re just a skip up the rd in Greenville SC

#854 antifish on 06.17.08 at 12:56 am

#814 queen,

Sorry missed your first post. I live about 30 minutes outside of Atlanta in Acworth. Are you coming down to Pride in July?

#855 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 12:57 am

#835 Trish I pray you are right. However, we need to let the DNC know we will not vote for BO. We have to get the SDs to realize we go to McCain over Obama. They don’t “recognize” Hillary yet and we need to change that. They seem to be going to ram that one down our throats even if they know we won’t vote for him. I hope Hillary is spending this time filling out Independent status in all 50 states!!!!

#856 Dragonfly on 06.17.08 at 12:57 am

#811 sassysenora – love those ideas! this is such a fun group of growlers. ;-)

#857 queen81 on 06.17.08 at 12:58 am

#852 antifish…that’s the tentative plan

#858 MountainSong on 06.17.08 at 12:59 am

Apparently, Mr. Obama has lost sight of the fact that his credibility is not in good standing with the American people. Insults leveled by the Illinois Senator against practically every aspect of the Democratic Party base, including the “sweetie” women, as evidenced by his pummeling by the “bitter” voters who set aside their bibles and guns long enough to reach for the ballot box, has produced a disenfranchised and fractured core which is destined to limp on to defeat in November. Certainly, the angry Michelle Obama, given her past anti-American rants, resulting from the indoctrination of her mind over many years by flame-throwing minister/priests, is not what Americans besides women are looking for in a role model. I read in today’s news that the Obama Camp is apparently conceding Ohio and Florida, stating that it can win the election without these two states. Unfortunately, the Obama Camp is wrong and for their information the list of “can’t win states” will continue to grow so that his backing may be dwindled to those fellow-elitists who scream and jump, waving “change” placards, during staged rallies. One of which was the one in Oregon where a huge Rock Concert was already happening along a popular river. And NObama was asked to come speak, which he did for only a few minutes but the media tried to make it appear as a huge rally for NObama. It’s going to take him alot longer than the 5 months til November to ‘change’ my mind.

#859 mini vee on 06.17.08 at 12:59 am

#843 Dragonfly

I’ll call the city to check tomorrow. I don’t know if it’s public record or not. Will keep y’all posted. I’m signing off, the kiddies wake up early.

Taffy, I’m in Denver too. Near Observatory Park/University Park. My signs are still up and I wear my Hillary buttons with pride and every time I see a BO bumper sticker, I seriously want to get next to them to flash off my Hillary sign!

Nite all. My kids wake up rather early.

#860 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 12:59 am

#817 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 12:39 am

good idea.

#861 fedupdem2008 on 06.17.08 at 1:00 am

Is there a way to contact Gore? Earlier on, his site says he & Tipper only accept snail mail.

BTW, i wonder if Tipper & Eliz Edwards might say sth in public supporting HRC now (& J. Jackson’s wife too?); As HRC’s campaign is suspended now, they might feel it less touchy now if they say sth positive ab HRC in public now…yes? :)

p.s. I agree that we should be pushing a more inclusive vision, that HRC supporters are WAY more diverse than ‘just white women’ or ‘just working class’ ;) We will gain far more broad-spectrum appeal & support, & credibility to those who dismiss this as ‘just women’s issues’ or ‘just emotional women’ :)

#862 sandipuma on 06.17.08 at 1:00 am

You could put a knife to my throat and i wouldn’t vote for OB

#863 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:00 am

#823 TrishfromCanada
Wow. I haven’t gotten any responses yet.
That’s a good one.

#864 TrishfromCanada on 06.17.08 at 1:01 am

#853 Taffy

I am of the inderstanding that the deadline to declare youself an Independent contender has gone past. Therefore Hillary cannot run as an Independent in this election.

#865 sandipuma on 06.17.08 at 1:02 am

this stupid NetZero wouldn’t let me open Hillary’s letter.

#866 nightsky on 06.17.08 at 1:02 am

Antifish: My 27 year old twin boys and 7 of their friends also support Hillary. So not all young people support him.

Got to get some sleep. Just don’t want to miss anything. Great blogs tonight.

Thanks to all and Goodnight.

#867 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:03 am

#856 MountainSong
How are ya?
I don’t believe the man will ever “change” my mind. I am stuck on Hillary.

#868 N. Lee on 06.17.08 at 1:04 am

Wow, I have been so busy getting videos out, I didn’t realize my latest is on this front page. Thanx everyone.

#869 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:04 am

Hey, if you guys need a place to stay..I’ve got a nice spare room. Save you some money. Always willing to help family. :)

#870 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:04 am

Night nightsky

#871 sandipuma on 06.17.08 at 1:05 am

Hey guys my surgery tomorrow i had no coverage and i phoned a Crongess person who is Hillary’s best freind sorry can’t say who and it is all being taken care of. So what does that tell you about Hillary and all the people who love her

#872 N. Lee on 06.17.08 at 1:05 am

Maybe you all have already been talking about it, but I just received an email from a former campaigner for Hillary that there is more proof of voter fraud from the Obama camp.

#873 queen81 on 06.17.08 at 1:06 am

actually the girlfriend’s brother lives in athens…his church actually has a booth at pride where they recruit lesbians for their softball team!! sadly he is still an obama supporter.

#874 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:07 am

OK PUMA Paws,
this bitter, crouchity, white, clinging to my gun and meditation person is going to go hug a pillow.
Night all. Thanks for all the great work and the great fun!
Tootles

#875 sandipuma on 06.17.08 at 1:07 am

The most caring people you could ever know

#876 queen81 on 06.17.08 at 1:08 am

you go SandiPuma…fortunately my recent surgery was workers comp so didn’t have to worry about that. i’m so happy to hear you are being taken care of.

#877 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:08 am

#864 nightsky,

Thank God all of our children aren’t addled by koolaid! I’m so proud of my son for standing up to his peers. Believe me, he’s been under a lot of pressure. His car was actually damaged at school, but a witness saw the person that did it and left a note on his car. It’s scary how the Obamabots act. Good night, fellow Puma!

#878 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:08 am

#870 N Lee
really? can you post any links or info?

#879 nightsky on 06.17.08 at 1:09 am

Our thoughts and prayers will be with you Sandipuma

#880 Witchy 1 on 06.17.08 at 1:09 am

I’m not sure anyone saw my post on the last thread, so I’ll repeat it. I have an email on where to send any proof of voter fraud, but I don’t know if it’s o.k. to post all the information. If it’s ok, please let me know and I’ll send the whole thing.
blessings and NOBAMA
Witchy 1

#881 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:09 am

# 862 Trish,

Where did you hear about the dealine?

#882 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:10 am

#862 deadline, sorry!

#883 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:12 am

Witchy1,

Maybe you should send the information directly to Murphy. Whatever we blog here can be seen by anyone snooping about.

murphy@pumapac.org

#884 shewolf on 06.17.08 at 1:12 am

Hi who is on now

#885 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 1:13 am

#862 Trish I know not in Colorado. I checked with the Secretary of State. She would have to file something like 3 days after the convention end. But she can still file in Colorado!!

#886 sandipuma on 06.17.08 at 1:14 am

Ok all sweet dreams i’ll see you when i’m able and some good pain meds lol

#887 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:15 am

sandipuma,

I wish you the best and a speedy recovery. Please try and stay in touch and let us know you are OK. Your post brought tears to my eyes. How could we not love our Hillary? She and her friends are the greatest!

#888 TrishfromCanada on 06.17.08 at 1:15 am

#879 antifish

It was in a discussion on hillaryclinton.com but I didn’t look it up or anything, I will though and see what I find

#889 shewolf on 06.17.08 at 1:16 am

AL Gore will never Chang my the way that i fill about Obama i will never VOTE for him……..!!!!!!!!!!!!

#890 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:16 am

Hi shewolf!

#891 sandipuma on 06.17.08 at 1:17 am

Your right antifish because you never know and the more private the better

#892 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:18 am

#887 shewolf,

Me either! I don’t like to say this, but I have to admit, I hate him! Is that wrong of me? I wanted Hillary to win so badly. Am I wrong?

#893 N. Lee on 06.17.08 at 1:19 am

I will send it on. This is just getting stranger and stranger.

To me, this is not longer just a fight for Hillary and political justice, this is a fight for our lives. I see something happening and am too wide-eyed to say it out-loud.

#894 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:20 am

#889 Sandipuma

Yeah, we really have to be careful here. Never know who’s lurking about, or even who is posing as a Puma. Don’t want to get paranoid, though, it’s not healthy! :)

#895 shewolf on 06.17.08 at 1:21 am

Hi antifish and sandipuma
i am from PA where are you from

#896 sandipuma on 06.17.08 at 1:21 am

Thank you antifish and i will as soon as i can. I have had 16 tumors and one was a bad brain tumor but i have a mass growing up behind my nose and it killed all the roots on my top teeth so the mass and all my teeth are coming out. I’m not to scared just don’t like the pain

#897 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:22 am

N. Lee,

I just want you to know that I admire your talent. You are one of our greatest assets. Keep up the great video work my Puma friend!

#898 sandipuma on 06.17.08 at 1:22 am

Will have to eat through a straw for a month but i could stand to lose 20 pounds

#899 TrishfromCanada on 06.17.08 at 1:24 am

Here’s one for you

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/15/221212/707

#900 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:24 am

#894 sandipuma,

I’ll pray for your swift recovery, Sandi. God listens to me because, I don’t ask for much. :)

#901 sandipuma on 06.17.08 at 1:24 am

Good night all and hi shewolf and hugs to all my puma freinds. God Bless you all.

#902 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:25 am

shewolf,

I’m from the burbs of Atlanta!

#903 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:25 am

Nite, (((((sandi)))))

#904 sandipuma on 06.17.08 at 1:26 am

Thank you and God always listens

#905 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:26 am

antifish
I notice the ooze coming in after murphy leaves.

#906 shewolf on 06.17.08 at 1:27 am

antifish my gram always said not to say hate but i think if she was still here she wold agre with us on Obama.

#907 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:27 am

((((BIG OLE PAW HUGS))))) Sandipuma!

#908 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 1:28 am

This about sums “him” up…McCain isn’t a terrorist so they don’t have to meet :) (From an ABC News article)

No progress yet on those town-hall forums, but another great quote has been tossed into the fight: “Barack Obama requires more preconditions to meet directly with John McCain and American voters than he does with Iran’s [President] Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,” McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds tells USA Today’s Kathy Kiely. Kiely writes: “Both campaigns say talks are at a halt, but there’s considerable outside interest in bringing the two candidates together for summertime meetings.”

#909 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:29 am

#897 Trish,

He ran such a dirty campaign, yet Axelrod was able to make it seem like he walked on water. He’s Obama’s Joseph Goebbels, minister of propaganda!

#910 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:30 am

#897 TrishfromCanada
I am not surprised.
LoL! He lost anyway, what a dip-wad!

#911 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 1:30 am

n lee where is your video? I went to view it and it says it is no longer available.

#912 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:31 am

#906 Taffy,

Obama’s a wimp! He’s afraid of any kind of debates or town halls. He cannot speak without a TelePrompTer. George W. Bush Redux!

#913 TrishfromCanada on 06.17.08 at 1:32 am

Ok looked it up, Taffy is correct, the deadline for registering to run as an independent is state specific.

#914 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 1:32 am

#894 sandipuma on 06.17.08 at 1:21 am

best wishes for your surgery and recovery.

#915 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 1:33 am

Anybody thought about buying plastic donkeys, dying them blue, and sending to DNC?

#916 shewolf on 06.17.08 at 1:33 am

How about this let McCain pick Hillary for his VP.what do you think will hapen to Dem. party then

#917 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 1:34 am

914 shewolf on 06.17.08 at 1:33 am

i wish she would but i think she’s too loyal a Dem.

#918 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 1:34 am

shewolf, they’ve mentioned that on McCain’s site. Especially since Kerry had asked McCain.

#919 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 1:36 am

suggestions for things to send to DNC:
(am trying to keep one list – mayor0102, do you want to keep it? that’s fine with me)

Pieces of play money from monoply each day
A jawbreaker/gobstopper a day
A penny a day
A bowling pin a day
A pig a day (I don’t know where that came from)
A tea bag a day
A package of Correctol for a week
A package of Koolaid (lemonade, sour grape so far)
A Get Well Card a day
a turtle a day
a sheep a day
a zombie a day
a gravestone (e.g., from cardboard) a day (for reports
that BO’s voter drive registered a lot of dead folks
and pets)
a pictures of the BOrg with an line drawn through it a
day ( i ws thinking of the StarTrek BOrg but it could
be the BO BOrg)
a toy cat (for PUMAs) a day
a (blue) plastic donkey a day

countdown emails (i.e, 222 days until McCain is POTUS)

any other suggestions?

#920 shewolf on 06.17.08 at 1:37 am

You know it is not unheard of TR was a vp to a Dem.

#921 dcinvegas on 06.17.08 at 1:37 am

sandipuma, try cox high speed. that’s what i use and i never have any trouble.

#922 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 1:38 am

#918 shewolf on 06.17.08 at 1:37 am

and kerry was considering McCain. i heard McCain said no but i’m not sure about that.

#923 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:38 am

#917 sassysenora
you forgot the turtle on a stick and a turtle on a post-it.

Pelosi pops

#924 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 1:39 am

Need a creative out there…something with Death by DNC for all us dying Dems :) or :( ???

#925 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 1:39 am

#906

“Barack Obama requires more preconditions to meet directly with John McCain and American voters than he does with Iran’s [President] Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,”

love the quote

#926 dcinvegas on 06.17.08 at 1:39 am

If anyone needs flyers in Spanish, I now have one version, thanks to loca2525. If you need a copy email me at dcinvegas@gmail.com.

#927 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:39 am

#913 Taffy,

I’m all for the plastic donkeys as long as I can stuff them with dog poop before I send them!

#928 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:39 am

#914 shewolf
Clinton/McCain yes

#929 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:40 am

#925 anitfish
like the trojan horse!

#930 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 1:41 am

Anti…gives a new meaning to pinatas lol

#931 TerryDo on 06.17.08 at 1:42 am

Hello Everyone;

This is my first blog on PUMA and I was so happy to find this web site, and I found it by following a blog posted by somene else, suggesting we blogger visit PUMA. So posting this site each time you blog on other sites does work effectively.

My intention is to support Hillary in everyway possible.
My intention is to support this web site, which I have done so, by my donation.
My intention is to join a group with the same goal in mind and that is to not vote for Obama and to either not vote in the General Election or vote for McCain.

I want to thank Murphy for her inspiration and determination. It is a job well done!

#932 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:42 am

#922 taffy
wait until you see the “get well” card tomorrow

#933 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:42 am

dcinvegas,

Could you post again tomorrow? I’d love to get some fliers in Spanish to give to my neighbors across the street. They know lots of people. I’m just not in the mood to do that kind of stuff tonight. Hope you understand. I’m just here to chat right now.

#934 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 1:42 am

suggestions for things to send to DNC:

Pieces of play money from monoply each day
A jawbreaker/gobstopper a day
A penny a day
A bowling pin a day
A pig a day (I don’t know where that came from)
A tea bag a day
A package of Correctol for a week
A package of Koolaid (lemonade, sour grape so far)
A Get Well Card a day
a turtle a day
a sheep a day
a zombie a day
a gravestone (e.g., from cardboard) a day (for reports
that BO’s voter drive registered a lot of dead folks
and pets)
a pictures of the BOrg with an line drawn through it a
day ( i ws thinking of the StarTrek BOrg but it could
be the BO BOrg)
a toy cat (for PUMAs) a day
a (blue) plastic donkey a day
a turtle on a stick a day (with post turtle joke)
turtle on a post-it a day
Pelosi pops
a band-aid (or gauze) a day (to heal the Dem’s
self-inflicted wounds)

is there something small that suggests life support or
dying dems?

countdown emails (i.e, 222 days until McCain is POTUS)

any other suggestions?

#935 N. Lee on 06.17.08 at 1:43 am

It would be political suicide to accept a VP slot on the other party’s ticket. But ya know, times they are a changin’ and who knows what’s up or down anymore. Everything is shifting around. Don’t you feel it?

#936 shewolf on 06.17.08 at 1:44 am

sassysenora
i am from PA and have voted DEM. all of my life this really hurts but i will not vote for Obama this year.i may not vote at all.

#937 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 1:44 am

sassy….how about retirement cards to Dean and Pelosi? Sorry to see you go Only next to sorry write “NOT”

#938 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:46 am

#931 sassysenora
grave stone R.I.P

#939 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 1:46 am

933 shewolf on 06.17.08 at 1:44 am

i know. it hurts to be kicked out by your party. i’ve been a Dem my whole life, too. but the party has move(d)on(.org). so i guess we have too as well.

it hurts, though. a lot.

#940 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:47 am

#922 Taffy!

We need a poem. Something Edgar Allan Poe-ish for the DNC! I’ll see what I can do. Nevermore quoth the Puma, nevermore!

#941 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 1:47 am

#936
too as well. = to as well. i hit backspace (to delete the extra o) and for some reason, it posted.

#942 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 1:48 am

#929 goanderson now how am I supposed to sleep tonight with that teaser? The idea is to keep “him” and Dean awake!!!!!!!!!!!

#943 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 1:49 am

anti Love it!!!

#944 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:50 am

#931 Sassy

Add a beer and egg fart in a plastic baggy!

#945 Taffy on 06.17.08 at 1:51 am

Interesting…..

There’s another far-fetched scenario in which the president and vice president could come from opposing parties. In the event of a tie in the Electoral College, the election is thrown to Congress—the House picks the president, while the Senate picks the vice president. It’s entirely possible that one could select a Democrat while the other chose a Republican.

#946 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:52 am

#939 taffy
sorry. It is something to look forward to! :)

#947 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:52 am

antifish
GROSS! LOL!

#948 shewolf on 06.17.08 at 1:53 am

I Have to go now will talk to all of you again. have a good night and sleep well in gods hands
by all
shewolf

#949 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:54 am

#942 Taffy
Oh Lordy, let’s hope not. Our Hill will never get in with Pelican Pelosi in the house.

#950 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:55 am

night shewolf

#951 sassysenora on 06.17.08 at 1:57 am

suggestions for things to send to DNC:

Pieces of play money from monoply each day
A jawbreaker/gobstopper a day
A penny a day
A bowling pin a day
A pig a day (I don’t know where that came from)
A tea bag a day
A package of Correctol for a week
A package of Koolaid (lemonade, sour grape so far)
A Get Well Card a day
a sheep a day
a zombie a day
a gravestone (e.g., from cardboard) a day (for reports
that BO’s voter drive registered a lot of dead folks
and pets)
a picture of the BOrg with an line drawn through it a day
( i was thinking of the StarTrek BOrg but it could be
the BO BOrg)
a toy cat (for PUMAs) a day
a (blue) plastic donkey a day
a turtle (on a stick?) a day (with post turtle joke)
turtle on a post-it a day
Pelosi pops (not sure what these are)
a band-aid (or gauze) a day (to heal the Dem’s
self-inflicted wounds)
retirement cards for Dean, Reid, Pelosi (and for
unfaithful SDs?)
a beer and egg fart in a plastic baggy

is there something small that suggests life support or dying dems? (i already have a gravestone)

countdown emails (i.e, 222 days until McCain is POTUS)

any other suggestions?

#952 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:57 am

#944 goandersen,

Sorry, I just got such a rush of pleasure picturing Dean opening it!

#953 goandersen on 06.17.08 at 1:57 am

#924 dcinvegas
Thanks for the flyer

#954 antifish on 06.17.08 at 1:57 am

sassy, you rock!

#955 antifish