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Hillary Clinton has suspended her campaign for the nomination of her party and is supporting Barack Obama for president. The Democratic party is a poorer institution today. Hillary was a candidate for the ages, historic by her very presence in the race. She inspired millions with her grace under pressure, her command of the issues and challanges facing our country, her practical competence, her warmth, and her class.
No candidate for president should ever have to face what she faced in order to get to this place in the nomination process. No popular two-term US senator should ever be required to justify or defend his or her presence in a presidential race. No distinguished and admired American, one who represents the hopes and dreams of millions of other Americans, should ever be expected to be ashamed of him or herself for running for office, for competing strenuously, and for challenging their opponent vigorously. No former First Lady, whatever her party affiliation, personal style, or opinions, should ever be treated with scorn, disrespect, or rhetorical violence by the public institutions of American life — our media, our political parties, and our elected and appointed officials. Today is a shameful day for them.
Hillary was baited by false accusations of racism. She was called a monster for competing with all her strength. She was depicted using the most humiliating and sexist sorts of stereotypes — as a castrater, a witch, a madwoman, a harpie, a shrew, a bitch, inhuman and insane. These twisted depictions did not come from the public, from voters or citizens who did not support her. If they had, it would be unfortunate, but not unconscionable. But they did not. The majority of Americans admired and continue to admire Hillary Clinton, even after all these months of insulting and demeaning onslaught by the media and her own political party. No, the personal and humiliating attacks on Hillary Clinton, the rhetorical violence used to undermine her legitimacy, her very existence, came from the institutions of American life that we rely on every single day — for guidance, for information, for leadership, for truth. By shirking that responsibility for guidance; by throwing principles to the wind and engaging in a witch-hunt; by using technicalities instead of inspiration to win — they have let us all down. This is truly a shameful day for them.
Today is the end of a road for us. We have done everything we possibly could to stand against those public institutions that so shamefully let us down and to get our candidate nominated by our party. We have called, canvassed, donated, and rallied. We have written letters, stood with signs on the street, and talked to our neighbors and friends to persuade them why Hillary was the best choice for the Democrats. We have protested. And we have voted. More than 18 million of us, more than any group of voters in the history of primaries. Even when we were tired and discouraged. Even when we had to get to work or to school; to take care of our kids and our grandchildren and our families; even when we had no more money and almost no more will. We kept working and hoping, and fighting. But the Democratic Party has blocked the road we tried so sincerely and desperately to keep open. Hillary has been forced from the race and our work to keep her in is now done.
But our new work is just beginning. We now have a duty to ourselves, our candidate, our party, and our country to make those institutions accountable for their actions. Pumas, this is not the end for us — it is only the beginning.
In response to how we as American citizens, as voters in our party, have been treated; in response to how our candidate was treated by our party and our public media; in response to how our institutions have degraded the civic landscape in which we want our children and grandchildren to be allowed to participate — as equal and full-fledged participants in our still precious democracy . . .
WE WILL BE PROTESTING THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
We will not support or vote for an illegitimate nominee. We will not be bullied, pandered to, sweet-talked, or manipulated. We will not succumb to appeals to our better natures, to our identities as democrats, as uniters, as healers, or as helpers.
WE WILL NOT VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE
Some of us will stay home. Some of us will vote for a third-party. Some of us will write-in Clinton. Many of us will vote for John McCain. This is a protest. Whatever option our members choose, it does not make us Republicans. Those who vote for John McCain will do so as a strategy, a protest. Those of us who withdraw from the Democratic Party and become Independents are still Democrats in our hearts. We are all Democrats. This is our party. The leaders did us wrong. They did Hillary Clinton wrong. They did our country wrong. But it’s still our party.
We want it back.
If you have forgotten how bad it has been, how immense the attack machine was against Hillary, remind yourself by watching this video.
Mad As Hell
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As sad as I feel at the turn of events, this post inspires me to keep fighting and standing for what is right. Thank you for encouraging me to keep my head up and follow my conscience!
I just watched Hillary’s brilliant and magnanimous speech. She is simply unbelievable and I love her and respect her more than ever. I wish I could do what she asks of us–I feel badly that I may not be able to follow her in this election. But then, listening to her today, made me even more saddened that she was passed over for the nomination. She is truly the leader that we need in this country. What do you all think?
I think one of the most important things we can do is simply DONATE to PUMA pac. Whatever the money is used for, just the number of donors and donations will make the DNC and SD’s take notice that
WE ARE SERIOUS
WE WILL ACT IN NOVEMBER
Do you have a donation button we can post on our own sites that will send the money straight to PUMA pac?
My heart is broken……..i sobbed while she was giving this speech…..i will NOT vote for BO, i can’t!!! i don’t know what i’ll be doing come nov, maybe things will change in august…..i don’t know, it hurts too much to think about right now…..i want to make a difference, i thought that’s what i was doing this election period, the DNC is NOT going to give us a break………i will be here, support and donate and we’ll see what happens……
thanks for all the luv and support hillocrats
I can not vote for Obama. He is just not the right one for the position of President!!!
I will either write in Hillary or vote for McCain!!
I heard her say that she is suspending her campaign, but I didn’t hear her say that, even though she may endorse NObama, she will swing her delegates to him. I didn’t hear enthusiasm from the crowd for rallying behind NObama. Perhaps she was forced out, but we are not forced out. I can’t seem to shake the feelings of betrayal. Giving up is giving up. Period.
I am not forced out, nor are WE. I will continure to work against NObama even to the point of voting for McCain with the elction in 2012 in mind. And definitely no Clinton VP.
I will be 65 years old this year and have watched and participated in the politics of this country for more than 50 of those years. It is my humble opinion that, whatever the Democratic Party may have been, it has died and is no more. From this point on, I will endorse no-party, non-partisan politics, to finally resotre the Republic of the United States of America.
This is a sad day.
Please don’t write in Hillary unless you read your state’s election rules. Some states will count write-in votes for Hillary as votes for NObama.
Please make sure you don’t inadvertently help the enemy.
Thank you Hillary for fighting for all 18 million of us. We will remember in November!
Thank you, Murphy, for so eloquently saying what we all feel. I am very sad today, but your words give me strength.
Her speech was brilliant. She said everything ‘they’ needed to hear, but did not give up. At least initially, the pundits have stopped beating her up, and are pleased that she has ‘conceded.’ Hopefully there will be less media intense focus on her for awhile, and we, her supporters, can carry the ball.
Murphy~
THANK YOU
Pumaindy, you are correct. I read New York’s election laws and discovered anyone who wants to be eligible to be a write-in candidate for president or vice president must submit the appropriate paperwork to the NYS Board of Elections no later than a few weeks before the general election. Any write-in votes for a person who has not submitted that paperwork will be canvassed as void. I am pretty sure the Clinton camp knows that, but I still wrote to the campaign and asked them to seriously consider submitting that paperwork, so those of us who want to write her in can have our votes counted. I am going to study my options outside of voting for Obama, and if I discover Clinton has not submitted that paperwork by the deadline, I will vote according to those other options.
Her speech was outstanding. I applaud her for being gracious, totally a classy lady. She’s suspending her campaign but she’s NOT giving up her pledged delegates and superdelegates, she’d go all the way to Denver.
Like antifish said, “WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER.”
some states do NOT allow write ins~it will be counted as a vote for NOBAMA~
some states deadlines~are already passed~
the ONLY true way to VOTE AGAINST NObama~ is to vote for Mccain~
That means NObama needs 2 votes to overcome every one vote we place for Mccain~
I will still hold hope that the truth comes out before the convention in August~Giving our HILLARY the green light in Nov.
in the meantime we have to work against the DNC, INJUSTICE,SEXISM, MSM BIAS & contest NObama nominee~as he IS the ILLagitimate nominee~
I can’t believe I’m crying, I thought i was stronger than that. However, through my tears I refuse to look back.
Like Hillary said, there’s not a moment to waste. Let’s move on to right this injustice. What is our course of action for today?
I am donating now … not much because I donated to Hillary hoping she would continue. I will continue to donate to this site until we right the injustices imposed upon us by the DNC.
NO OBAMA!!!
I’d vote for McCain in general election, NO WAY in hell I’d vote for Obama; that is like condoning action of an abuser. I am not an enabler.
In the immediate aftermath of Hillary’s capitulation speech, I seem to detect a bit of concern from MSM that perhaps we who have so zealously supported Hillary are less than enthused about supporting her endorsement and likely will not vote for Obama no matter what. Duhhhhh!!!Ya think?
I am reposting this from the last thread. I think I can see another tactic they are using. (someone let me know if this makes sense to them)Take a water pipe shaped like a (T). The bottom part of the (T ) is where the voters feed their votes into. Going up into the top part where it splits off into votes for Obama on one end and votes for McCain on the other. (This is how it will be if we can’t get Hillary in.) Now look at the line for the votes that are heading for McCain – the Obama people want to poke as many holes in the line as they can. So they poke one hole and siphon off people who will stay home, then they poke another hole and siphon off people who will write Hillary in (In some states this be a vote Obama instead) then they poke another hole and suggest we vote for some candidate that doesn’t have a chance of winning like Ron Paul. When they get so many holes poked in the pipe the only votes that are going to McCain is a slow trickle. That people- gets Obama in. We all know Hillary beats McCain and McCain beats Obama. The thing is no matter what we do we need to be unified to stop Obama. Sorry for the repost I just thought it might be important enough for people to think about.
Ok, we have our directive. Hill is “suspending” her campaign. It is time for all of us to organize and mobilize. First and foremost BOYCOTT the mainstream media!!
StarDust,
Great analogy. I’m convinced that a vote for McCain is the only way to vote against Obama. I won’t actively campaign for him or donate to him, but he has my vote.
We must be extremely careful. (1) Most states do not allow write in’s , so that vote will go to Obama. (2) If we vote third party that will still leave millions of vote for Obama.. We must all come to an agreement, I truly do not believe that a vote for the third party will work, it’s either stay home or CLOSE OYR EYE’S and VOTE Mc Cain. We also need to figure a way to get Donna Brazile and Dean OUT. Any word of the supposed web site being PHONY????
Will be busy for half an hour. comments are in moderation, not deleted.
please read the posts here and at the sites on the blogroll and spread the word. Stay away from the tv. It will only make you mad and sad.
Welcome to all our new members and visitors. The Pumas are gathering!
I have been a blogger on the Hillary website for several weeks and not a single one was ever posted, so I hope I can finally get these to post and talk with my Hillary comrades!
First I have to tell you of something I heard on Hannity and Colmes last night. They were interviewing some pundits of BO and McCain and were discussing the strength (or lack thereof) each one has on foreign affairs. So, the BO pundit said and I paraphrase “well, we know Obama can do well, he held his own during the campaign against Clinton, who IS MUCH MORE EXPERIENCED IN FOREIGN AFFAIRS!!!” I think his words were even better than that. One point for us and 0 for BO. Can you believe that?? I did not see the who the guy was but heard him. Just one more example of what we know and the DNC is trying to suppress. Wish we could get ever pundit to say this about the economy, healthcare etc. and play a tape at the convention!
Senator Clinton, you have changed this country and many parts of the world. I know you had to do what was “politically correct” for you and Bill. But please know that our goal hasn’t stopped to see you become the President in a few short months. WE will NEVER forget the way you have been treated by the DNC, the media and especially Obama and his supporters and Pundits.
Today is the day that Hillary’s supporters REALLY start fighting for her. As someone said BO may have won the battle, but not the war. We all have options (all of which is NOT supporting BO). I will NEVER vote for BO.
NO WAY! Ignore everything in the media and stay on track for the convention. WE can’t control the democratic party but we CAN make their lives miserable. Don’t financially support the DNC and do find a way to leave the party and make your voice heard. Keep writing the delegates, the DNC and the media and tell them you have changed parties (to Independent or Republican).
1.My first thought and hope is that we take it all the way to Denver. She is still a potential candidate until the SD’s vote at the Dem convention.
2.We can change our party affiliation to Independent (PLEASE check your state’s rules to make sure you can vote for Hillary at the convention).
3.We can vote for McCain. Which frankly for me, I would rather have 4 years of a moderate, war hero than a man who is clueless about foreign affairs, the economy and has run a travesty of a campaign.
4. If you want to try to write Hillary in on your ballot, PLEASE be aware that states often will take write-ins and give them to the candidate on the ticket and not acknowledge the write-ins name. BE VERY careful about this strategy.
Don’t give up because Hillary hasn’t. Thus she “suspended” rather than conceded her campaign.
I hope I see alot of the Hill supporters on this website.
Diva
O-Bots are hitting an all time new low. Here is an article from my local paper regarding a mass Dem Voter Drive:
http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-10/1212816745283060.xml&coll=1
Here is an excerpt:
“While Voting Is Power has sent in batches of applications for months, registrars have begun to see a disturbing pattern of misinformation on the forms, including duplicates, cards filled out with different colors of ink, or using the names of pets or dead people. In Jefferson, DiMarco sensed something amiss when a new registration card recently crossed his desk.”
This is going on in every state and I bet its going to get a lot worse.
Fox’s “Weekend Live” reported that Hillary ENDORSED Obama. I sent them an e-mail with the correction. She did not use the term “endorse;” rather she said she would support him.
I just registered on Hillary’s website as: “NObama Never” and added the following comment:
I will NEVER vote for Obama. I know that you have to do what you have to do now Hillary, but I will NEVER vote for someone whose behavior is beginning to appear sociopathic.
Democratnomore, we have time to discuss that. What counts right now is that we will not support Obama and visible shows of protest to the democratic selectee.
This says it all:
http://bp0.blogger.com/_sG7_Enm8RYA/SEgpw3jnW8I/AAAAAAAAALY/Xpm1w0uGbPw/s1600-h/WS.jpg
Not my idea, but maybe a good one. Fight for McCain now so polls show him smashing Barack. Maybe DNC will listen and still hope for Denver? I know if any poll calls me, I will tell them I am a Hillary Democrat now for McCain. She did say suspend, not concede and support not endorse. Gave us hope?
StarDust is absolutely right. We must vote McCain. Do not take the chance that your vote will not achieve it’s purpose. Watching Hillary speak , I was also thinking, how could anyone not see the ability of this woman to be one of the greatest Presidents of our time? Perhaps she still will.
Proud of Hillary, sad at what has caused her to make the speech. I try to not loose sight of why she ran, and what she would be doing (is trying to do?) if she had the nomination in hand: Beat John McCain’s brains out, to prevent more Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Ashcroft-Libbey atrocities, and to put something better in their place.
I will vote for some known or obscure third party candidate.
I cannot and will not support McCain and his beloved war. He is anathema. Hillary has spent years sweating on my behalf to defeat the likes of McCain.
The Democratic machine must be made to listen and to change radically. The Republican machine must be pushed out of power.
See you in Denver. This isn’t over yet.
Well said Murphy you summed it up perfectly. We must grow our numbers.
Thank you
what’s the next move? how many are planning to go to denver? I would go if someone wants to give me a ride. I live in SF,CA.
Staying positive!
Shouldn’t our next move be to defeat the idea of Hillary as VP? That might put him over in Nov, and she’d be stuck ironing his shirts, which would really kill her own career.
I’ve started two petitions:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/hillarynovp — for Hillary supporters who do not want her trapped ironing Obama’s shirt
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nohillaryvp — for opponents and supporters who have different reasons for not wanting an Obama/Clinton ticket
Murphy how do we connect PUMAPAC with all these other groups for max. exposure & representation?
if we can get all the groups out there working togeather we all make a bigger statement~
this is just a couple
helping MILLION MARCH FOR DEMOCRACY
http://comealongway.blogspot.com/
http://www.hireheels.com/
http://www.hillaryresponders.com/counteveryvote
http://www.womencountpac.com/Site/Welcome.html
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=15133
http://www.now.org/
comments back on
DIVA~ Welcome
“When that day arrives, and a woman takes the oath of office as our President…”
That day will be January 2009 and that woman will be Senator Hillary Clinton…
Hang on everyone, there’s still fight left in our Lady!
yes Ramsey!
Later on we will re-read her remarks carefully and find many many examples of her subtle and brilliant subtext.
I live in SF JennforHILL. We can organize and help get a group out there.
Cougar symbolizes one’s ability to accept and direct the course of power through one’s life with grace and speed. Its appearance heralds a time when we will learn to move quickly when the opportunities we have been seeking to transform our lives suddenly present themselves, especially if we are willing to claim and step fully into our own power.
Got an email from Dean with a subject header “Unity”. I replied with:
No means No Sweetie. Too little, way too late.
P.U.M.A. !!!
Senator Clinton may have endorsed Obama. The good Senator is a person of her word. That doesn’t mean that I/we can’t “watch her back.” I will no longer call her just Hillary. Senator Clinton deserves more respect. The respect she did not receive from the DNC and the media. I have been on this earth more than 6 decades, following politics since I was eight years old. (Eisenhower/Stevenson). I thought the 2000 election was a debacle, but nothing compares to this. The sexist remarks were bad enough, but the suppression of information from the media of Obama’s Chicago background was astounding. I thought freedom of the press was an American right. Scott McClellan’s new book only highlights what’s really going on. I was a Senator Clinton volunteer during the primaries and helped work the events in my county. I’m dumbfounded. I cannot believe the best candidate for President isn’t in the General Election. Well, now there’s 18 million cracks also in the DNC’s ceiling. How do you like that!!! In my state I can write in her vote. I may reluctantly vote for McCain. One thing is for sure, we have to make the DNC understand they can’t usurp our votes.
Yeah, I tivo’d her speech, and have already run through it again with my daughter, pointing out where we should read between the lines. My daughter, who has great instincts, has never wavered in her belief that Hillary will be our next President. Even today.
I just donated to puma. I also watched the video posted and think you should leave it up until the election so people can view when they feel like “giving in” to this sham of a process. I will be voting for John Mccain in Nov. Forget about staying home that is what Donna Brazzille wants. Yes it is a protest vote but I also truly believe Mccain would be a better President than Obambi. If you stay home it is one less vote Obambi will have to make up, don’t let him steal this election. Do this not for yourself but for our country and future as a DEMOCRATIC NATION! If Obarf wins it will only reinforce what they have done.
They are counting on women to get tired give in and vote the way they want. NO TO OBAMBI!!!
Of all three candidate Obarf is the only one who voted for the Bush Cheney Energy bill. Mccain is a moderate.
Anyway, for anyone who wants to see a youtube of Jimmy Carter talking about how inexperinced Obarf is and he is not ready to be president. check out the youtube on savagepolitics.com. HYPOCRITE!!! It is an independent blog with no relation to the rightwinger. Many Hillary supporters who are not supporting Obarf are on the site
I wish Hillary continued strength, she looked “tired” today. I can just imagine, the day to day campaign trail, enduring the punches from the DNC and media and Obama and his camp, please Hillary, take some time now to relax………. please forgive us, please forgive us, we can never ever vote for Obama, no matter what you say, even if you’re on the ticket. (PLEASE, NO!!!).
If Obama was as experienced and intelligent and humble as Hillary my family and I would consider it.
But NO, not for now.
God willing, we’ll be there for Hillary again in ’12.
This really gets me: if all the stuff about the reverends and “guns and religion” etc. etc. had surfaced earlier, Hillary’s voters would have been many more than the 18 million.
I want to donate but I need to be reassured not a penny will go to the Obama camp, where does the money go anyway?
I am a little concerned here. Murphy did I read you right; you are for the Democratic Party still, like Taylor Marsh-even after they violated their own consitutional charter and stole votes and made people like me in to half a person, and that Hillary’s race is conceded as opposed to suspended (oh how I hope I read this wrong)? The undemocratic Democratic Party should not exist to us now; they must, if they can hold together after November, prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they have earned our future involvement and endorsement of this most undemocratic Democratic Party-it is up to them now, not us – ball is in their court.
And, we are right, Hillary has to leave the public front of this to us- we demand that this be so.We are strong. We are invincible. We are going to give women a little liberty and control not only over their bodies, but a bonafide say in the persons’ running our government
and this must be free of sexism and misogyny by media and every other single soul in America. Susan B. Anthony said on her death bed that she so regretted that after having worked for 60 years for the vote that she would die without having a little [just a little was all she asked for] liberty and a say in her government. We must, give Susan B. Anthony her little bit of libery now, some 105 years after her death and 165 years after her first involvement in the Suffrage movement.We must work as well work to give our Hillary a little liberty from the sexism and misogyny that she endured during this race – a possibility of a comeback to be in the highest position to govern our beloved country.
Cavuto was on this morning and he said to a guest on there, “Alright now, you prissy little miss.”The sin here is that she took it; she took it on the chin and she let all of America’s Daughters take it on the chin as well.
I have my thoughts about Hillary’s speech. My first thought is that she was doing and acting and speaking in exactly the same manner as myself on occasion that I was having to severely reprimand my child. You know, this is going to hurt me much much more than it is going to hurt you.I could see the stiffness, the pain behind the words, the shrill edge back in her voice when she was talking about anything other than her family/supporters, etc. This hurt our Hillary very very deeply. Another thing I also saw, was that there evidently was a greater number of Obama supporters there than true Hillary supporters, remember the seats at the RBC and who got more?
And, I was so happy that she acknowledged that the undemocratic Democratic Party had only elected a Democrat as President three times in the last 40 years; and that Bill was elected in two of those instances. Did you notice that Bill put his arm on Hillary’s mom, and took her hand to help her off the stage – to me that showed great grace as well.
Please, everybody, let’s get on the same page as to some of the first steps to help – time is of the essence. Can we agree on the following:
-Write in is not an option. Some states do not allow a candidate to be a write in if they were a candidate during a primary, there are some states that the deadline for filing is past or about to be past, and some states bundle the write ins and GIVE them to the person on the ballot – do you seriously WANT to help Obama? You help Obama if you write in her name.
-a vote for John McCain counts against Obama best – a vote for John McCain makes Obama have to get TWO votes in order to get ahead in votes – one to negate the McCain vote, then one to gain an Obama vote.And at least McCain is a patriot!
-change to an Independent voter, this is the single most effective and immediate way to hit the DNC over the head with a 2×4! It will scare the s&!T out of them; it will make them know that WE MEAN BUSINESS.Do we really believe that the undemocratic Democratic Party would not need our part of the OLD coalition, as Donna Brazile has said.
-use our pocketbook and presence to HURT the MSM and pundits and others to let them know that WE MEAN BUSINESS. Oprah needs to hear from us – and could use a 2×4 hit upside her head – she thinks women are SHEEPLE- we must get her viewers to understand that being a SHEEPLE is destroying our country. Agreed?
-we must go to DENVER -en masse-in great mass.
Here is what I posted over at hillaryclinton.com
Quitters never win and
Winners never quit
I am not quitting. I am not giving up on Hillary. For those of you who are considering supporting BO, that is your choice, but think about this:
We can not support BO just because he is a democrat. He does not act like a democrat. Hillary was treated so terribly during this election period, and he could have helped stop it, but he didn’t. HE CONTRIBUTED TO IT. He flipped her off during speeches. He called her names. He made fun of her supporters. He paid people to blog nasty things about Hillary and us. He bought out the DNC and the media. He lied more times than I can even count. He has an arrogance that surpasses even that of George Bush.
Now ask yourself—Is that the kind of person you want running our great country?? Is it really?
I, like many of you, read between the lines during Hillary’s speech. She had to say some of the things that she said. I truly believe that she wants us to keep fighting for her and for a change in the system. I will not lie down and let the media and the government tell me who I should vote for. I am voting with my principles and my heart, and I will never vote for Obama.
Looks like we aren’t the only ones reading between the lines. Article on Fox News:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,363962,00.html
Title: What’s Up Hillary’s Sleeve?
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No matter what the votes say, Hillary IS the President and Commander-In-Chief by the very nature of who she is and in every fiber of her being. She is a true leader who inspires people to be better people, to stand up for what is right and just, to embrace your enemies even if you don’t agree with them, to form constructive alliances, and to never give up. She will go down in history as America’s champion, and America’s heroine. God bless you Hillary for all that you are and what you have helped us become.
I just got the same email from Howard Dean!!
This is my response:
I will not support the crooked dealings of the DNC and the news medias for what they have done to the democartic party and I will NOT vote for Obama!!!
This will be my first time as a democrat to vote for a Republican!!!!
Go Hillary…we can NOT back you as long as Obama is the head of the Democratic party and Howard Dean is head of the DNC!!!
Hello, President McCain!!!!
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Please put a different picture of Hillary in this page. She looks tired and worn out and very sad. It is painful to see her like this. She didn’t loose. She WON. She surely must be smiling and proud when she gave her speech today. Please put that picture. It is a little consolation.
Let’s get going, PUMAS! Turn our heartache into heartbreak for the DNC! Senator Clinton … what a champion for us. We must now be a champion for her. Many of you are much more polically savvy than I, and I anxiously await your guidance and suggestions on how best to move forward. I want a T-shirt, NOW! We never got one from Miss Hillary. Let’s go! DONATE and BE VISIBLE. We gotta lotta work to do!
Thank you, Murphy!
Sandy in PA
Okay, time for us to organize for our next move, NONAME stole this primary from Hillary through cheating, buying superdelegates.
PS… I also Unsubscribed!! I don’t want anymore of their Junk email!!
Be careful on writing in Hillary! In some states if you write in Hillary – your vote will be given to Obama.
Every state has different rules on how write-ins are handled. Some states take write in votes and assign them to the same party candidate on the ballot.
There is only one way to make sure Obama loses and that is by voting McCain.
At this moment I feel sad that the Democratic Party has selected an unqualified individual rather than an exceptional woman who is more than qualified to run this country.
I will continue to hope that before the Convention, enough bad information will come out on BO that he will have to step down. (then they can’t blame HRC as it will have been his own fault) The choice will then have to be Hillary. If not I will vote for John McCain. He is not a bad person and I believe he loves this country. Staying home will give BO an advantage, write-ins could backfire depending on your state.
If we elect John McCain in 4 years Hillary can run again. She then WILL be President.
Maria, Queens NY
As if I wasn’t upset enough, I stupidly read a column by Peggy Noonan of the WSJ mentioned on Fox this AM. I was absolutely horrified.
To sum up we are just a bunch of “lonely people, angry and on and on….and nobody in the senate even likes her” Got to stop reading anything but these support sites.
I don’t know if I just saw in her speech what I wanted to see, so help me out there understand. Did anyone else think that she was giving us the okay to proceed with whatever we have to do and she is behind us? Her body language was anything but sincere everytime she had to even say his name. Looked like to me she wanted to choke!
Everyone thinks we are all going to come around in a couple of weeks! Don’t they see that it just isn’t a feminist or race issue… that this is a dangerous man they are glorifying?
Sorry to ramble, but I just feel so violated .
Where do we go from here.
Perhaps someone needs to guide us with a “To Do List”
Right now I am just feeling kind of lost, and am not thinking as I usually do with a level head.
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Re-posting from earlier thread –
I just got an email from Harry Reid, Sen Majority Leader, who helped select Obama. He wants us all to congratulate Obama and show that we’re united behind him. I gave him an earful. Would you all like to tell him what you think, too? If so, here’s the link -
http://www.dscc.org/petition_con?petition_KEY=105
I love that picture of Hillary.
It captures her strength, determination and compassion.
It’s beautiful.
While I respect the decision that we all must make on what to do in November, I am voting for McCain. Staying at home, voting third party, or writing in Hillary’s name all will end up helping Obama. We are in precarious times domestically and internationally, and I can’t risk taking an action that might put Obama in the White House. Also remember that both houses of Congress will be overwhelmingly controlled by Democrats — that will serve as an effective check and balance against McCain.
DeepSouth, Thanks for the link to fox news…”What’s up Hillary’s sleeve” YEAH!! It’s the first thing to make me smile today. Hey Everybody, the Presidency is up her sleeve! GO HILLIARY!
Murphy,
I’ve just made my donation to PUMA PAC. Okay! Lets get the ball rolling!
Donation amount: $20.00 USD
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How about a “Daily Action” posted every morning?
Something we can all do – we’re ready, we want to fight on, but we need a direction. Like a snowball, all of our smaller actions can turn into an avalanche!
By the way – I donated $5 today and I know some other folks from Camille424 have done the same. But once a specific donation goal (amount and how it will be used) is chosen, we can whip into fund raising mode! Like the Womancountpac ad – it was a specific thing we could donate to.
Just my suggestions – don’t know what else to do : )
HI, everyone. I just couldn’t bring myself to watch or even read what Hillary said today. I managed to only catch the headline on Yahoo! that said “help elect Obama” and I immediately felt sick to my stomach. I went straight to this site and saw your headline Murphy “Thank you Hillary….We’ll take it from here” and it made me laugh. My showed my husband and he said he hopes the women send a very loud message come this November . I would like to send a check to your pac, can we do that?
You are welcome Ramsey!! Everyone, this article will make you feel better. We aren’t the only ones who know Hillary is being strong armed and has other plans.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,363962,00.html
I’ve made my final donation to Hillary’s campaign yesterday. I’ve made my donation today to PUMA PAC instead of next week as I intend to do, I feel it is important we must act now, time is of the essence. We need a voice as an organization, we would be growling loud, they’ll hear us.
Hillary supporters!!!! LETS UNITE and FIGHT on for HIllary!!!!!
Thank you for the information, I just donated $25., not a lot, hopefully it will be very regular and more, BUT, it made me very happy!!!
THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
My local TV news has the following poll on its website:
How do you think Hillary Clinton should have handled the past few weeks of the campaign?
RESULTS:
Did the right thing : 13%
Stayed too long : 28%
Should stay til convention : 58%
This is in spite of their reporting that she “conceded” vs. “suspended” her campaign! (The VOTERS in Florida know what they want.)
To Hillary Supporters:
The time is here, the media and Democratic Party Bosses have picked the candidate they want. It is now time for the people to pick to the candidate they want. You can show your support and the people’s choice by:
- E-mail the super delegates asking them to support Hillary at the Democratic Convention
http://www.lobbydelegates.com/
- We must organize a protest for the Denver Convention; in numbers we are strong.
- Send e-mails to Howard Dean telling we support Hillary and we will NOT support
Obama. That McCain will get our votes and we are disgusted with the Democratic
Party. Howard Dean’s e-mail: howarddean@dnc.org
- Protest Obama’s campaigns.
Hillary Suspended her campaign which means she keeps her pledged delegates. Given enough opposition by the people perhaps we the people still can choice our candidate by acting on the above. It is important that we unite and show our strengthen as the people’s voice.
Consider Hillary Support sites such as:
http://blog.pumapac.org/
http://www.hcsfjm.com/index.html
http://clintondems.com/
http://writehillaryin.com/Home_Page.php
http://www.hcsfjm.com/index.html
http://www.hireheels.com/
http://hillaryclintonnews.blogspot.com/
http://hillaryclintonnews.blogspot.com/
http://www.taylormarsh.com/hot_topics.php
Zee said – I’ve never forgiven her from 2000, when she kissed Bush and said the election was simply about who was more “likable.”
I, too, remember that very well and I’ve never forgiven Oprah, either. The similarities between 2000 and now are unreal. I’ve been saying for months that it’s deja vu all over again. In 2000, the media and the RNC played up the idiot and bashed Gore all to pieces. Throw away the good and keep the incompetent. Gore won every debate, just as Hillary has, by far, won every debate.
Hillary’s playing the game. She’s very, very smart and so is Bill. They know the right moves to make. And we all know what we have to do.
From now to the convention in August is an eternity in politics – anything can happen. We have the power to make the right things happen. Nobama is NOT the nominee until the delegates vote in August, no matter how often he declares himself the nominee. I guess he’s so inexperienced that he doesn’t even know that!! LOL
Murphy,
There is a graphic over at NoQuarter that I would love to have on a t-shirt. Can we get some t-shirts made? The graphic says “No means NOBAMA” and the o in Nobama has a picture of BO crossed out. That would be cool to have t-shirts made with the graphic and they could also have NoQuarter and Pumapac on them. What do you think?
I like the picture too. She looks like she’s considering her next move. She also looks strong and capable. I think she’s thinking “I’m still here”
Action and help needed – I have a website under development, but can not get it through the ftp mechanism for it to be seen; it is there, I just did not
post it correctly, I need someone who knows more about the ftp thing than me to help. The site is not complete, and it needs input from all of you. The site is theamericanwoman.org; and it was designed to help Hillary and to also help the American Woman to write their own news, about them, and for America’s Daughters/Sons. I hope it would be up in perpetuity; it even has a 50 state strategy where someone from every state could write about women in her state.
I still think it a great idea and a complement to PUMA and everything else. But, I need help. Once the fragments are up, maybe you all would help get it done.
SHORTERMER I’m with you all the way!
jody in florida, COOL! That’s the kind of stuff that will make us all feel better today…
Has anyone been started talking about the Million Women March (or 18 Million March) on Denver here? I would like to help with the coordination of that.
We all know what’s going to happen….hang in there gang.
Gee Whiz!!! Just a minute ago, it was stated on FOX News that only 20% of us have said we will go over to MCCain. It appears that MSM has no conscience and will go to any lengths to see NObomination elected.
Some suggestions to PUMAs about actions to take…
Given all the media abuse, I think paid ads in major newspapers will be the way to go. They HAVE to print paid ads. If you have enough money to do it, hit the major newspapers in the tank for Obie first (LA Times, NY Times, Chicago Tribune, etc.) and keep on going. Key message: don’t take 18 million of us for granted; we CAN’T be bought and won’t vote for that fraud. Everyone in the media right now believes we’ll turn around. We have to start there. Thoughts?
Question of the Day on Fox News Political page:
Will John McCain be able to attract a significant number of Hillary Clinton supporters to his campaign?
60% of the votes are YES (including mine)
hey all….I missed Hillary’s speech. Probably a good thing. I would have threw something at the TV. Goddess Bless Hillary for all she has done but Damn, don’t ask me to vote for him please. I take voting very seriously and it would go against every nerve in my body to “switch over” and vote for him. If you all figure that voting for McCain is better than staying home, and can convince me, I’ll do that.
On another note…I have some oval bumper stickers I had made that say “Hillary for President Rise Hillary Rise”, right after Maya Angelou’s speech.Got about 20 left. If anyone is interested in having one, email me your address and I’ll send you one. babybagolight@yahoo.com
I came over here from the HC site – I just can’t vote for BO – it isn’t in me. I don’t believe in him at all. The DNC stole our canidate and for that they will not get my vote – on top of the fact they think my vote for Hillary in the primary is only worth 1/2.
I also can’t vote in good concience for McCain, he will take away a woman’s right to choose in a split second and will be able to pull it off (expecially with spots becoming open in the supreme court w/in the next couple years.
So, I sit here, for the first time in my life as someone who will stay home in November and it is all because of the Dem party.
It really urks me that they just think we will flock to BO because they forced Hillary into backing him – WRONG this dem won’t do it, and in protest to letting the delegates pick our nomine in the closest contest in history instead of listening to the people they LOST my vote all together.
if we can get all the groups out there working togeather we all make a bigger statement~
this is just a couple
helping MILLION MARCH FOR DEMOCRACY
http://comealongway.blogspot.com/
http://www.hireheels.com/
http://www.hillaryresponders.com/counteveryvote
http://www.womencountpac.com/Site/Welcome.html
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=15133
http://www.now.org/
I hope this makes the board. I have been unable to post at HRC or DNC sites since the Texas Caucus. I foolishly sent protests to the state and national sites the night of the caucuses. Folks she was robbed.
I am so happy to be with PUMA. The DNC let us all down.
Today is the last day of the state caucus in Austin. I hope the Clinton delegates who make it to the floor are not shouted down but treated with respect.
I am so grateful to have found all of you.
There is dirty Wall St. money behind all of this. George Soros and company through Move-On.org have dumped a great deal of money into Obama’s campaign. They were able to buy off Edwards and several superdelegates as a result. Many Hillary supporters know that there is something rotten going on at the top.
By the way, these Wall St. parasites also own Pelosi, Reid, and Howard the coward Dean.
Go Hillary.
Fight on or go for McCain?
No decision today, I need time to cool down, calm down, get drunk today.
Tomorrow is another day.
Just one request. Please no obama trolls.
ramsey- of course in florida, i guess the percentages should be cut in half, lol.
Puma Alert!!!
Go vote in the AOL straw poll! McCain is beating Obama!
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/05/aol-straw-poll-june-5-june-13/146#c12531079
Hell hath no fury like a woman/women scorned!!
Count me scorned!!
Can I get an Amen??
Oh Dear! I just read the article at Fox. Dick…Morris is aptly named since he is one of the leading talking heads who is only on fox because he will knock her at every chance. He is a jerk but I hope this time he is right about her options.
I am going back to re-watch the tivo’d speech but I am pretty sure she said she “fully supported” him, is that the same as “endorsing”.
Never give up, never give in! DENVER! DENVER! DENVER!
We will take it from here.
We are everywhere blogging for you and in defense of a woman who got shafted by the media and the DNC.
I also have a forum and please add your comments there as well.
I know they are watching my site for sure…
http://www.hillaryisourchoice.com/
Great blog..
Today, I’ve started donating to PUMA, instead of Hillary sight. Just can’t chance any going to the DNC to help BO get elected.
Lets get the donation CHAIN going~
I wish I had more~
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Well I turned on the computer and the headline on msn is “Clinton Concedes Nomination, throws full support behind Obama” Yet on this blog I see she used the word “Suspend” The media is still lying to the American people. There is a BIG difference between suspend and concede. Why do they keep lying and getting away with it? I am also sick to my stomach! I logged to to Hillary.com and saw support OBAMA there. I refuse enter the blog because I see that Obama will then get my e-mail and why should we contribute to Hillary when the money is going to OBAMA? I wish Hillary had put the Country ahead of the DNC and OBAMA. She’s a smart woman…I hope this DNC doesn’t turn her into their puppet!
Please consider adding
Hillary is our choice
to the list Bill K mentions above.
I’ve been around a while now and supporters have sent hundreds and hundreds of emails to the
DNC…..I know they are watching my site..
CNN.com reports that Sen. Obama left his Chicago home
will golf clubs shortly before Sen. Clinton’s speech! Did he even watch it?!! The Audacity of Arrogance and Disrespect. If that isn’t a display of DISunity and divisivness, I don’t what is!! I’m scared, VERY scared!!
Sandy in PA
I tried posting FIVE times on hc.com and it would not let me. I have no idea why.
I am a young performer who wrote a song for Hillary,
but today I am not singing any song at all.
My heart’s broken. It’s still with Hillary but never with BO.
The pundits kept pounding their point in, about how African Americans would feel robbed if the election was unfairly snatched out of their hands. Well, what about the millions of WOMEN as myself who today are feeling disenchanted, disengaged, disillusioned and devastated?
I need to be a little more forthright in my frustrations.
I traversed hundreds of miles to perform my song for Hillary— for supporters in PA, and NC as well as other states. Unfortunately certain people within the campaign flat out ignored my efforts. (There are a few standout exceptions though–those were the people who kept me going). I was able to perform at smaller events but never official ones. I was told I could sing it at Bill Clinton’s rally but at last minute was told to sing it OUTSIDE instead. I have to be honest,
being treated like this was so NOT cool.
However Hillary still has my support because I know if SHE knew I was treated like this she would not ALLOW that from ANYONE.
Thanks for listening. I finally can vent somewhere.
Murphy, thank you for this site in support of Hillary and Democracy.
Do we have a 50-state strategy going forward? I think that we need to find a way to inform all the 18Million Hillary Supporters and request their support, thus inform them about the goals of the PUMA movement and how we need to proceed to be able to succeed with these goals. The internet is such a powerful tool , but we need to think about those Hillary supporters that are from rural areas and might not have immediate access to a computer. Murphy–How do we proceed? How do we make our voices be heard? What is the strategy? Hillary said she wants her supporters to be respected, hence I gathered in between her lines today a glimpse that we should not give up on our ultimate goal. Does any one agree? Obviously, she left the door opened by only supending her candidacy and a lot could happened until Denver. Does any one knows what/how is the process at the convention to make the presumptive nominee the official nominee? Murphy-Do you know if the names of the people whom contributed to Hillary’s campaing is public record? This list would be a great tool/resource.
OOPS…TYPO “WITH” golf clubs!!
Sandy in PA
I just heard someone say that the Democrats at the top don’t believe we will vote Mc Cain because he will appoint judges that will over turn many of womens rights?? what say you ladies… Please let me know what’s up I’ am new to this site and love it….
Ok, for those who would like to switch their voter registration from Democrat to Independant or something other than Democrat, I’ve secured a list of all the voter registration websites for all 50 states (I hope I did not miss any). Make sure you read the rules/timeframes for switching before you jump into this though. And maybe Murphy can post the list to the website ?
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Alabama – http://www.sos.state.al.us/Elections/Default.aspx
Alaska – http://ltgov.state.ak.us/elections/
Arizona – http://www.azsos.gov/election/voterregistration.htm
Arkansas – http://www.sos.arkansas.gov/elections.html#voter_info
California – http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_m.htm
Colorado – http://www.elections.colorado.gov/DDefault.aspx?
Connecticut – http://www.ct.gov/sots/cwp/view.asp?a=3&q=415810
Delaware – http://elections.delaware.gov/
Florida – http://election.dos.state.fl.us/regtovote/regform.shtml
Georgia – http://www.sos.georgia.gov/elections/Voting_information.htm
Hawaii – http://hawaii.gov/elections/voters/votehi.htm
Idaho – http://www.idahovotes.gov/
Illinois – http://www.elections.il.gov/VotingInformation/welcome.aspx
Indiana – http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/voters/index.html
Iowa – http://www.sos.state.ia.us/elections/voterreg/index.html
Kansas – http://www.kssos.org/elections/elections_registration.html
Kentucky – http://elect.ky.gov/registrationinfo/infoguide.htm
Louisiana – http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/68/Default.aspx
Maine – http://maine.gov/portal/government/edemocracy/elections_voting.html
Maryland – http://www.elections.state.md.us/
Massachusets – http://www.sec.state.ma.us/ele/eleidx.htm
Michigan – https://services2.sos.state.mi.us/mivote/votersearch.aspx
Minnesota – http://www.sos.state.mn.us/home/index.asp?page=134
Mississippi – http://www.sos.state.ms.us/Elections/voterinfoguide.asp
Missouri – http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/
Montana – http://sos.mt.gov/ELB/Voter_Information.asp
Nebraska – http://www.sos.ne.gov/elec/ele_forms.html
Nevada – http://sos.state.nv.us/elections/
New Hampshire – http://www.sos.nh.gov/vote.htm
New Jersey – http://www.state.nj.us/oag/elections/vote_doe.html
New Mexico – http://www.sos.state.nm.us/sos-VoterReg.html
New York – http://www.elections.state.ny.us/Voting.html
North Carolina – http://www.sboe.state.nc.us/items.aspx?id=1&s=1
North Dakota – http://www.nd.gov/sos/electvote/
Ohio – http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/voter.aspx
Oklahoma – http://www.ok.gov/~elections/faq.html
Oregon – http://www.sos.state.or.us/elections/other.info/vr.htm
Pennsylvania – http://www.dos.state.pa.us/voting/cwp/view.asp?A=1192&Q=443159
Rhode Island – http://www.elections.state.ri.us/registration/intro.htm
South Carolina – http://www.scvotes.org/south_carolina_voter_registration_information
South Dakota – http://www.sdsos.gov/electionsvoteregistration/registrationvoting.shtm
Tennessee – http://www.state.tn.us/sos/election/registration.htm
Texas – http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/voter/index.shtml
Utah – http://elections.utah.gov/voterregistrationinformation.html
Vermont – http://www.vermont-elections.org/elections1/registertovote.html
Virginia – http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/cms/Voter_Information/Index.html
Washington – http://www.secstate.wa.gov/elections/register.aspx
West Virginia – http://www.wvsos.com/elections/candidates/electionpages.htm#Voting
Wyoming – http://soswy.state.wy.us/election/vote.htm
Dick Morris is one of the authors of the Fox News article. After listening to his punditry for several weeks, I finally couldn’t take it and started hitting the ‘mute’ button when he was on.
This article, while it might give some hope is in actuality a very negative article against Hillary, considering the source. Knowing Morris, I know that this is how he meant it to be.
Just an FYI for those of you who might not have heard Morris’ commentaries over the past couple of months.
I will not support Obama!
I will not support McCain!
I will be watching Hillary in the days and weeks ahead.
I’m glad to now be on this site.
Murphy, great post, and beautiful picture! Love it!
I watched Fox..cried, even had my partner crying..he’s a manly man! He’s also a life-long Republican who had every intention of voting for our girl in general election. I agree with other posts here that she didn’t seem to have her heart in it. I also noticed that when her speech ended, she didn’t turn and hug Chelsea and Bill like she usually does, thought perhaps it would have been too emotional a moment.
Well.just made my first contribution for Puma Pac..got my pay pal all set up and I feel great about it! I am proud to be a PUMA. Tee Shirts..bracelets..count me in….I’m also available to help with any research we need to do.
DeepSouth:
I would not read anything that Dick Morris puts out. He has nothing but hatred for the Clintons and has been spewing nothing but vitriol at Hillary all campaign long every chance he gets. Everything Hillary does is a conspiracy in the making according to Dick Morris’ twisted point of view. So I would take his writing about Hillary with a thousand grains of salt.
What an amazing, compelling speech. Regardless of what has happened over the last few months, I need to listen to Hillary and join her in ensuring Republicans do not win the White House. Not because of party unity, but because I truly believe this country is on the brink of disaster, and John McCain would stomp all over everything Hillary and I stand for. I believe that she truly does want us to elect Barack Obama president. And I’m more interested in doing what Hillary wants than lodging some sort of protest vote for McCain that will end up ultimately hurting me.
25.00 USD
Total: $25.00 USD
Purpose: For our PUMA Cause!!
Contributor: Beverly M
GOSH – That felt good. All good causes require funds.
I know it is not easy and we have given alot
already to Hillary, but they can’t advertise, do
printing and get shirts to sell without money.
Doesn’t have to be alot! Remember how all the
donations added up real fast for Hill.
Jenn4Hill and gina613. I also live in SF.
Murphy whats wrong with the comments
Gokimfrommichigan, loved the link! Thanks for sharing!
I’ve just received an email from Howard Dean, subject of his email “UNITY”. This was my reply to his email:
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Sweetie, what “unity” are you talking about? Are you talking about 18 million voters that supported Hillary Clinton? Oh well Sweetie, you and the rest of DNC can unite like a bunch of mussels in a bucket, but this lifelong Democrat like the others have already move on and now supporting John McCain. Ask Wright, Pfleger, Khalidi, Auchi, Rezko, Farrakhan, New Black Panther, Hamas and other unsavory characters to help the DNC, you’ll never get a penny from me. I’m American first; my loyalty to my party ends, where loyalty to my country begins. Sorry Sweetie, unity on this side can’t be bought, cajoled or sweet talk.
I made this comment at TL today:
“Upstream a bit someone asked the question (5.00 / 4) (#210)
by FemB4dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 02:08:14 PM EST
what would I do if Hillary came to my house and asked me personally to support Obama? It’s basically what she did in her speech today, which I listened to with tears in my eyes. I now know the answer: I would hug her, and thank her, but firmly say “no.” Here’s why: the misogyny that has so stunned us all, that Jeralyn and BTD have blogged so eloquently about, did not come out of no where. It was waiting, buried not very deeply, in the hearts and minds of the Tweetys, Olbermanns, Caffertys, etc., of the media, in the hearts and mind of the vicious Obama supporters, and, IMO, in the heart and mind of a certain green, rookie one-term Senator who felt it perfectly appropriate to challenge his senior, more qualified female colleague for a job everyone with half a brain cell knows should be hers. Does anyone really think that if Al Gore had thrown his hat in the ring Obama would have too, even if (perhaps especially if) Hillary had not run? Unless you can answer that question fairly in your heart that, yes, he would have run in any event, I submit that you cannot (at least women cannot) stay honest and true to yourself and support him. It is truly that simple for me.
Moreover, what makes us think this misogyny in the media and our party will go away if we do nothing, sit back and say, “sure sweetie, we’ll vote for you.” That overt sexism and deeply held misogyny will simply recede back into the recesses of Olbermann’s rotten heart, waiting to surface in 2012 in its most vicious of forms against Hillary, should she run again. But it will also wait, again to surface against any woman who dares to step out of her place. It won’t need to be so vicious against this hypothetical woman, whoever she may be, instead it will be a more gentle form along these lines: “well, if Hillary was rejected by the American people, what makes you think you will be acceptable as CIC (or whatever)?” No woman will ever again (at least not in my lifetime) have the unique set of talents, experience and fortitude that allowed Hillary to get this close. The women to follow won’t be savaged — they won’t need to be — they’ll be scoffed at.
Women, if we are going to make a stand to save our democratic party, it must be now. We must reject the candidate the DNC foisted upon us, and do it with the same vigor and determination Hillary has shown. If we do not, if we just return to that metaphorical coffee pot and ask Obama: “sugar or cream?,” we will have lost our voice for generations, just as our foremothers did in 1872 when they did not insist, loudly and firmly: “yes, absolutely, the right to vote for black men, but the right to vote for us too.”
Susan B. Anthony said it well when she asked “how can any woman support a party that does not support her self?” Indeed. Those words resonate today just as strongly. We must fix our party now by rejecting it’s current guise or we will be stuck at the back of that ever more crowded bottom of the bus for generations to come.
I have truly enjoyed lurking here for many months, and commenting these past few days. Thanks you Jeralyn for a marvelous site, and thank you, too, BTD, for being the sole comprehensible Obama supporter I have heard. I will stay and participate as this turns into a democratic party blog unless asked to leave, which then I will do with what I can only hope will approach even a fraction of the grace my Hillary showed today.
See you at the Confluence (River daughter’s site) and at PUMA PAC. This fight is so far beyond Hillary and Barack now;
for our daughters and nieces, for their daughters and nieces, we cannot let it die. Thank you for listening.”
On to Denver!
comments back, sorry folks.
I need you guys.
I just watched the speech. I am sobbing.
She is so inspiring. not just what she says, no. It is her unswerving loyalty in the face of so much, her amazing ability to smile and inspire in the face of such…i have no words. She has faced the most hateful, corrupt, terrible people day after day and still today….
She has my love and support for ever. I supported her as what I thought last year was the best candidate. She is so very much more than that to me now. Look how far she has come, how much she has grown.
She amazes me. She humbles me.
SAREN
I hear ya and am going to take your advice! I feel as if I’m gonna have a heart attack!
Sandy in PA
Switching to Independent sends a strong message to the DNC. I think party affiliation is only limited to primaries.
I like the idea of stating to pollsters that you voting McCain (even if you are not). Nobama’s people live for those polls. That said, we shouldn’t pay attention to them.
Do not remove any Hillary stickers or buttons. Impoertantly, we need to continue writing the superdelegates. We can’t let up especially before Denver.
Seems we’ve made the news.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/07/hillaryclinton.barackobama
Drae, I think we all need each other. She has grown, there is a softness, gentleness that is so touching and you know you are seeing into her soul. Seeing that during this campaign has inspired me even more than I had been before..and I’ve been a long time Clinton supporter.
I’ve really been struggling today, emotionally..as I’m sure we all have. I know we have to get it together and get on down the road and I support that totally..I guess I’m just still processing it all today and I feel so darn bad about they way she’s been treated. It would be one thing if it had been one reporter with an attitude, but it’s been the entire MSM. It is truly shameful.
One thing I feel so strongly about is getting the message out that we will not tolerate that kind of behavior in our elected officials, who stood by and some who even participated in this cruel and unnecessary treatment. They forget they work for us. The media is something else and we’ll deal with them as well.
I cannot get over the fact that I now tune in to fox for news and I have found myself agreeing with Shawn Hannity and even Ann Coulter. I used to get disgusted just looking at her and now…well I know most of you have probably had this same experience.
The effects of what has happened is far reaching beyond women. It effects the entire middle class – men as well as women. It has been an obamination on humanity.
MISSY ~your welcome
PA4HILL08
Yes, Dick Morris is a sad little creature, however, the article he wrote is right on this time. While he thinks he is criticizing Hillary, he in fact is verifying what many Hillary fans “think” they may have read between the lines in her speech.
He has inadvertantly given hope to those who thought she had thrown in the towel.
In his efforts to once again belittle Hillary, he has given her loyal followers a boost. Even though I’m sure there are many Obamabot media outlets that know her real message they will more than likely NOT write an article like that knowing it would give all us Hillary followers hope.
PA4HILL08
Seems we’ve made the news.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/07/hillaryclinton.barackobama
YEAHHHHHH~lets keep on making the news~
SADDLE UP EVERYONE~
While we are waiting on PUMAPAC t-shirt designs, I’m off to have a t-shirt made with that picture of women holding the banner.
And one that says “Selected, NOT Elected — Nobama”.
SunnyPA…nice I like it
Great News! Maybe we need to research this candidate and send a little support his way? After all, if the party officials see him as “a nuisance”, he’s worth taking a look at! What do you Pumas think?
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/it_is_official.html
Gloucester attorney Ed O’Reilly got enough support from party officials today to ensure that he will give US Senator John F. Kerry his first Democratic primary challenge in 24 years.
At the state Democratic Party convention at the Paul E. Tsongas Arena, O’Reilly got 22.5 percent of the 2,574 ballots cast, more than the 15 percent he needed to secure a spot on the primary ballot. Kerry got the majority of votes, which means he’ll get the party’s endorsement.
“Party officials said this campaign is a nuisance. And it is. It’s a total nuisance,” O’Reilly said to the convention floor. “Democracy is a nuisance. People said the American Revolution was a nuisance — and it was.”
Fem4Dem, just read your wonderful post. I believe as you do, we must not let this all be pushed aside, to do so is enabling it to continue uncontested.
Hillary cannot make this choice, for obvious reasons. We can and must! No longer will we be pushed aside, and told to sit down and shut up, get in line or else.
They have awakened a sleeping giant! PUMA!
Well fellow hillsters from HRC main site – I have tried my best to get everyone to calm down and go for a walk and come over here and do something about the campaign rather than just giving it – lets see if it worked or not – so much we can do now that she has “suspended” – blogging, emails to super delegates – supporting this site to go forward – now its up to us – she was there – now we will be here for her – GO HILLARY TO THE WHITE HOUSE
I know I am getting lazy here – but does anyone have the link for the superdelegates – not the congress.org one but the one that is broken down by State and shows who has endorsed who and even the uncommitted – all you have to do is send an email to them – I could go back into the archives – but have much work to do today on the other HRC website to draw our fellow Hillsters over here.
Thanks so much if anyone has it handy.
Happy to find my new home with so many of my other villagers.
I JUST WATCH MAD AS HELL…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM
LOOK I ALL FOR WHAT YOU.. MURPHY…SEEMS TO BE FOR…I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THIS… 527….IS GOING TO USE THESE FUND …I WILL GIVE MONTHLY…IF IT’S TO EST…SOME TYPE OF ORG. MOVEMENT……THE ONE I SEE…THAT’S WILL DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE…OR …TEAR DOWN THE DNC…
LIKE …A MILLION PLUS MARCH ON DENVER….IN AUG…
IF YOU DO NOT POST THIS…..THE ? WILL BE RAISE & ANSWERED ABOUT PUMA PAC…..AND THE $ WILL ROLL IN……WHERE THE INFOR ON THIS 527……LET’S ROLL MURPHY…..BE OUR LEADER FOR JUSTICE!!!!
I did read that article today. That’s a great idea Antifish.
Murphy, I’m working on a list of the sponsors for CNN and MSNBC for PUMA members to contact. It will take me a few days to compile all the information for PUMA. It will be several pages long as I am trying to gather product lists, addresses, phone numbers and email addresses so that each PUMA can use one or a multiple of ways of contacting sponsors. Is this something I can send to you via email so that you can post it for PUMA? I’m not too techno-saavy, so any advice would be appreciated.
antifish~
i agree with you & I bet they still think HILLARY supporters are a NUISANCE too~
what do parents do when their cubs are threatened~
{Make NO MISSTAKE HILLARY IS OURS}~
PARENTS GROWWWWLLLL and PROTECT their OWN~
Lets go PUMAS~
Goalucard4Hill~
I know I’ve tried for days {my posts are not going through at HRC}
We have to get them over here to take action~we can NOT let them give up~
Just got an email from Howard Dean….asking us to come together and complimenting Hillary for her fantastic efforts or something like that. I’ve asked them to stop sending me stuff..this is the first in two or three weeks. Guess I’ve got to get stronger about it!! Check your inboxs you’ve probably got one!
Goalucard4Hill,
I have this website for the SDs. Don’t know if it’s what you are looking for but it says “this site has been frozen since june 4 2008″.
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html
~My daughter ever the protecter of my health is kicking me off the computer to sleep~I have to work tonight @1:30a.m.~
Ed O’Reilly already has a website up! I’m checking it out now. I would love to see Kerry lose his seat after backing Obama when Hillary handily won Massachusetts. I let Howard Dean know that I would support anyone. of any party, that went against their constituents and backed Obama. I would prefer to support Democrats, of course.
http://www.edoreilly.com/
First, let me start with , having problems getting on here to comment. When they asked for my profile and asked if I wanted to change my password, from what they gave me, to something I might remember, EVERYTHING I put in was too short. Please help!!
Now, next : Yesterday I was on as Mary Beth and asked for ideas, on what we as a group can do rather than just vent, and my oh my, so many ideas and solutions.
I too was touched by Hillary’s magnificant rousing
and emotional speech today. It was without a doubt, her best!! (just an aside, did you hear Carl Bernstein? say,that BO probably didn’t watch it because he off to play golf!!! How’s that for change?)
I just sent Hills campaign $25.00 to help her pay off her debt, so I can’t yet, but will be able to at end of the month.
I also sent the letter to the DNCC that someone here wrote so eloquently wrote. I’m here and I want to work with you .
Thanks and please get someone to get back to me on this password problem.
Oh, I almost forgot, why is everyone so upset with Donna Brazile, I know she never said who she would endorse, until every vote was counted…what happened? I must have missed it.
Howdy, y’all! Great post, Murphy. I jumped ship from Taylor Marsh and joined the great migration to PUMA, also to Confluence.
This is a very bittersweet day. Hillary’s speech was absolutely magnificent, and she did what she had to do as the loyal Democrat she is. She’ll be back, just you watch!
However, no matter what she or anyone else says, I still do not believe Obama is qualified or experienced enough to be President. At the moment, my best option is to protest and vote for McCain. Also, I am sorely disappointed and disillusioned with the DNC, who foisted this dreadful debacle upon us; and with the MSM, who spread such lies, misogyny and willful character assassination against Hillary.
Just wanted to introduce myself and to speak my mind. I know we’ll all have to take this one step at a time.
Don’t forget the politicians in your state who jumped on the band wagon to support BO. I recently got my newsletter form Dennis Moore Dem Rep from Kansas, who I have voted for every time he has run. This was my reply to him:
Please take me off your mailing list! I will be leaving the (un)Democratic Party and registering as an Independent. The reason for this is due to the way Hillary Clinton was treated by the Party and how our voices as moderates were not heard. I plan to vote straight Republican this fall and this means you will no longer have my support.
If we don’t give a consequence for the way we were treated by the DNC then things will never change. Real change is what we need maybe ever burning down the old so we can build the new just like the Phoenix.
By the way please make the T-shirts in men’s sizes also. And not too frilly there are male PUMAS stalking around here as well as female.
SusyT:
There should be a link at the bottom to “unregister”. Use that and then it should give you a box where you can tell them why you want to unregister.
While I will say from the start I am a Republican and I will be voting McCain. However, let me say that of the two Democrat candidates if I had to vote for one I would most certainly vote for Hillary over Obama without hesitation. She has more experience, she is not naive and she will protect this country if push comes to shove ! I do not believe she would take any crap from our enemies, I cannot say that of BO-and that frightens me for our future in these serious times. So even though I am a Republican I a sorry that Hillary lost the Dem nomination, because if a Democrat does win in November I would have much preferred it be her.
I guess politics makes strange bedfellows. I am a conservative male and veteran living in Texas. I crossed over and voted for Hillary in the Texas primary. Why? Not because of “operation chaos” or any other dumb purpose – a vote is a right not to be wasted.
I voted for Hillary becuase, given the slate of candidates we had for this election, she was hands down the best qualified candidate to lead this country. Obama is a candidate “without portfolio”; the epitome of an empty suit. McCain doesn’t know who he is or what he stands for; it depends on the time of day and who he needs to get even with.
I took a hard look and decided Hillary was heads and shoulders above all others in the race. Does she have faults? Sure. Do I agree with her on everything? Of course not. But she has a genuine concern about the future of this country not borne out of entitlement or false pride. She was the ONE candidate who would do what she believed to be best for the country, and had the intellectual horespower to make a reasoned and responsible decision. Obama sways with the wind, and his approach to leadership would be as shallow as his character. Obama has no clue what he faces, and his experience in the Senate has been limited to, running for President. McCain likes to, excuse the language, piss into the wind, just for the sake of pissing into the wind. I am still not sure what drives him, but whatever it is it is more suited to the role of a kamakazie pilot than an commander in chief. Plus, his long tenure in Congress makes him part of the problems we are facing today. I guess he was just saving all those great ideas for the Presidential rainy day.
It is probably too much to wish for, but I’s really like to see Hillary take a run as an independent. Beleive me, there are plenty of conservatives like me, both Democrat and Republican, that would vote for her.
If my presence here or post is unwelcome, I’ll avoid posting here in the future. Just wanted to let folks know that this is not just a Democrat or womens’ issue. In my book, it’s an issue of what’s best for America. A country that I volunteered to serve to protect, and was and remain willing to give all so that my children, friends and fellow citizens may continue to enjoy the incomparable freedoms and liberties that are synonomyous with the United States.
photolady: On your password, use a combination of capital letters, numbers, and so forth — note that the bar below the boxes will change to “Good” when you’ve created a password that is sufficient. Then click on “Update Profile” to have the change accepted (if I remember correctly!).
Don’t foget the 18 Million thank you card campaign:
“We are trying to get a “Thank you card campaign” started. We want to flood Senator Clinton’s DC office with thank you cards. On the front of the envelope we are writing “WE ARE ONE OF 18 MILLION” and we are asking her to take it to Denver. We want to reach as many supporters as possible so it can be effective. THE ADDRESS:
THE HONORABLE HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
UNITED STATES SENATE
476 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON
DC 20510-3202
———————
Many are dropping a dollar bill in their cards to help Hill pay off her campaign debt.
photolady: Although Donna Brazile, commenting frequently on CNN, claimed she was uncommitted — and was presented that way by the moderators — she consistently belied that by her obviously biased comments. It was very transparent.
Hi all! ClintonDemocrat here. Diehard Hillary supporter but CANNOT and WILL NOT vote for BHO. I cannot stand him or the DNC. I am now an Independent and will be voting for McCain in November!
Guys, it has been a long 16 months. I will remember today just like 9/11. I will hold the DNC, MSNBC, CNN, and other MSM links, any Democrat that sold out in order to protect themselves, and others. I could go on a rant a mile long. For now, I am thinking of Hillary and her family and supporters with the upmost gratitude and thankfulness. I will NOT support, enable, or gratify anyone or anything that enables this crooked, mean, and lying person that has been entitled “Presidential Nominee.” I will take this day by day. For now, I will support and show that support as protest for John McCain. At least I know he is proud to be an American and honored that his party selected him to run as President. To be frank, I don’t think Mr. Obama even wants the job. He just wants the status that comes with it. Please don’t sit this election out. It only helps the Dems. Please don’t write in a vote, as this also only helps the Dems. Our strongest protest outside of blogging, not financially supporting anything that the DNC advocates, Democratic Office Holders who themselves allowed this sham to happen with a NO VOTE in November is our Vote of NO to Obama. I support this site and its goals 100 percent. If there is suppose to be an air of “happiness” and “cheering” in my part of the Country, I don’t see it. I feel an air of confusion.
to photolady
Donna Brazile was one of the main people on the DNC rules committee that insisted “rules are rules” and disenfranchised voters from Florida and Michigan
So many BHO supporters are behind him because they say they cannot stand Hillary and that they will do anything to prevent her from becoming President. Had Hillary won the nomination, these BHO supporters would not vote for Hillary. So why then should I vote for BHO???
We also need to teach the DNC, those superdelagates, and the media a HUGE lesson! They cannot keep pushing us around, telling us what to do, how to think, and how to vote. The only way to do that is to let McCain win!
McCain ’08
Hillary ’12
to Goalucard4Hill-I believe the website for contacting superdelegates is lobbydelegates.com
hello,
I’m new to your blog, but I’ve enjoyed reading everyone’s comments.
Like all of you, I’m very angry about what has happened, but instead of sitting around getting angrier I’m trying to find ways to be productive. Here are some of my ideas. Let me know how else I can help.
1.) Don’t give money to DNC and keep writing them over the summer protesting their actions. I suspect that a lot of money they received for Obama came from Republicans, so this seems like a good way to protest.
2.) Some of you have said that you will be making a list of organizations to boycott. Please post on main PUMA page when it is ready, not just within blog so people can start writing advertisers, MSM, etc…
3.) Make the Dems, Reps work for your vote. Keep saying that you will vote for McCain in the fall in every poll there is until Dem convention in August. I will not support any local Democratic party activities in my region (and will write to tell them as much) until this issue is taken up in August convention.
4.) Encourage NOW to organize protest for Dem convention. I’ve already sent them an e-mail asking about it.
5.) Put together a list of other groups that will be protesting at Dem convention so we can all unite.
6.) Keep writing superdelegates over the summer until convention.
How else can we help?!
-Lara08
Grizzly on 06.07.08 at 5:50 pm
I say “welcome” to this blog. Very interesting and probing post. I for one am eager to read all the various angles of reasonable, respectful debate and commentary.
Grizzly,
Hey love’d your post. of course you’re welcome. Any and all who love and support Hillary, who will work to fix our corrupt DNC is welcome.
The whole point is that Hillary was for everyone. Obama is for his money people and the blind, and the far left.
HEY…6MIN. INTO HER SPEECH…HILLARY SAID..AFTER LISTING EVERY KIND & TYPE OF PERSONS SHE HAS BEEN FIGHTING FOR…..”YOU STOOD WITH ME…and I WILL CONT. TO STAND STRONG WITH YOU EVERY TIME,EVERY PLACE AND EVERY “WAY”I CAN!!!!
THE DREAMS WESHARED ARE WORTH FIGHTING FOR”
LET’S GET THE MARCH TO DENVER ORG…..HELL NO I WON’T GO WITH THE DNC SLECTION!!!!!!!
Brazille was one of the ones who, on TV, said that they didn’t need “these” voters. (meaning the uneducated, racist, poor, etc, etc, they kept calling us.
She is a blight on the DNC and I think one of our main causes should be to rid the party of her and Dean.
No, not that one Antifish – thanks though – PAHill08 – you have all the links – do you have the one that you can go into to find the delegates for your state – there is a pop up screen that you can go into your state and then you can see the undecided by name – HIS supporters by name, and HRC supporters by name and you can click on send an email – they say you can donate $5 if you want otherwise free –
I know I saw it on here a couple of days ago – went into it and now I have lost it again.
Thanks
I will be sending a card to Hillary. That is a visable show of support that will be overwhelming. I suggest that we send cards to the DNC Heads, i.e. Howard Dean, Donna Brazille, etc. Could one of you post those mail addresses. I know I could search for it, but if one of you guys has it handy, it would save some time. Thanks!
Thanks to you for forming PUMA Pac. Like many here I think this primary campaign has been corrupted from the start. The DNC and Obama campaign encouraged the misogyny and demonizing of Senator Clinton. This must not stand. My vote for John McCain will be a vote against the DNC/Obama and for small-d democracy.
This is just my opinion—
I think we should all brain storm ideas, just complete free think for a week or so, collect them all, and then have some kind of round discussion on them all. Firm up all positions, because like they said in that article mentioned above, it would be a huge detriment to the purpose if the messages get crossed or we are all doing different things.
The greatest power we have is when we all work together, with all of our input and ideas, then settle down to business. Working together we can and will accomplish the tasks at hand.
I’ll write-in Hillary as my vote in November. I can’t vote for McCain; this country can’t survive another Bush term.
Did anyone hear the comment that John King CNN made right after the speech.”Today’s speech proved what many democrat’s have said over the past weeks -If she had started this campaign as strongly as she ended it perhaps the results would have been different. If anyone knows his email address would you give it to me and also please email him and let him know what you think of that comment. It was because of people like him Hillary did not have a chance.
It would be great to have a “links” page that would contain much of the info that is being posted here.
Also is there a way to network ALL the big Hillary sites so that we can work together in an organzied group?
hey all, I hope you have every success.
keep on keeping on for Hillary, all the way to Denver.
this is from the press in England
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/05/hillaryclinton.barackobama/print
YES, AWESOME, THANK YOU MPK – that is the one that I am looking for – now to get busy doing it – thanks a million – you are great.
SORRY HERE’S THE LINK IT’S ..A FEEL GOOD MOMENT
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25021292#25019353
The Taylor Marsh site is no longer Pro-Hillary. It’s Pro-Democratic party.
Taylor started openly supporting Obama earlier this week and has had a great deal of the “regulars” jump ship to other blogs.
That’s her choice. But to call that blog Pro-Hillary is a misnomer now.
I am so excited to find this site. What the DNC has done to Hillary is unforgiveable. No way am I voting for NObama. No way in hell.
I agree drae. There have been many good ideas, but we need to focus. Lara08
Asian4Hillary: Sweetie, what “unity” are you talking about?
LMAO. Nicely put!
I read a post somewhere, and I sent it around as well that the DNC doesn’t really care if we win the WH. That it is really about restruct of party, money, and all the new voters that he brings. They can make a new huge data base, etc. This is about power, not about us.
That is one of the reasons I am going to do everything I can to punish as many as I can. I encourage all to look downticket, make calls for that guy going against Kerry in the primary, etc.
We can make a difference. They can not highjack this process. I wont let them.
As a member of PUMA, I am protesting a PROCESS of nominee selection that disenfranchised large groups of people, largely due to the reliance on the causus over primary. This report shows how so many were disenfranchised in this process; http://www.talkleft.com/media/2008caucusreport.pdf.
I am protesting the PROCESS by which Florida and Michigan voters were not allowed a re-vote that Hillary and the DNC had approved and found funding for — because the Obama camp did not want it.
I am also protesting the blatant sexism from the DNC and in the media that the DNC did not speak up about.
Honestly, I am not against Obama as a person or as a male person. I am against the PROCESS by which he was [tentatively] selected. If the process had truly represented all the Democratic voters and had done so in a respectful atmosphere that avoided racism and sexism, I would support the candidate chosen.
This is my response to those who say that as Dems we always support the winner. I have always done that, too. But I believe that the party is backing a candidate who does not represent the will of the voters. The super-delegates are supposed to step in when that happens to protect the will of the people, and to ensure that the strongest candidate is put forth. So far, they have not fulfilled their role. That is why I will not vote Democratic in this election, unless another nominee more reflective of the will of the people is selected in Denver.
Agree titan90. We are here for stated goals and to protest what the Democratic Party did. I went to the TM site to get a read on today’s event. It is really a sad what it has become and what the majority of posters are saying. It is all about “the one” or trashing JMcCain. Only a few 100 percent committed Hillary bloggers are there. I am glad that Murphy organized and created a place for us.
drae,
I like the way you think. We do need to get organized here. Let today be our day of mourning, but tomorrow we must begin to take action.
I went to Ed O’Reilly’s (the guy opposing Kerry) website and he is in line with my values so I’m sending him a contribution. I’ll contact his campaign as well to see how this Georgia girl can help a Massachussetts Senator get elected!
Now that Hillary’s homepage wants you to sign up in support of Obama, what is going to happen to information that we sent there regarding our email address, credit card numbers, etc. This concerns me. Is there a way that I can request any of my personal information “taken off” of that site now? I do not want it in the hands of BO or his henchmen.
Oh, and Drae, I agree about the restructuring of the party, but I’m afraid they’ve made a grave mistake. Most of Obama’s supporters are about him, not the party. There was an article in WaPo recently about it. The DNC has taken the gamble of disenfranchising it’s most loyal base to blindly hand the reigns to Obama. That is why they are so far behind in fundraising. His supporters aren’t going to give them any money. The fools!
That is one thing I really would like to see as well Elaine – reform for the primary
IMO it should be popular vote for the primary and delegates for the general.
EVERY person in the US should be heard when it comes to who the party puts up for the nomination to the dem party
The kicker for me is the way we in FL got shafted by the republicans yet again – the dems playes into their hands when they first denied us and then said we only counted as 1/2 a vote.
The Super delegates did not pick who would be best to win the white house or the pick of the people, they picked BO for some other reasons and it will serve the party right when they lose in Nov.
I read the article that mentioned PUMAPAC. What logo are they talking about? I don’t see a logo on the page… is there one in the works?
Obviously PUMAPAC needs a logo that isn’t anything like the Puma sports logo.
Please join us for the
PARTY UNITY MY ASS! UNPARTY
…to defeat Barack Hussein Obama
WHEN: NOVEMBER 4TH, 2008
WHERE: VOTING BOOTHS NATIONWIDE
HOSTED BY: DEMS FOR MCCAIN
Thousands of us disaffected voters need to make them understand that NO MEANS NO – NOBAMA!
Let’s send invitations to Dean, Brazile and Pelosi.
photolady –
In addition to the above, while pretending to be uncommitted, Donna Brazile gave very nasty responses to the Hillary supporters who emailed her. In one email exchange I saw on taylormarsh.com, in response to a very polite email about seating FL and MI, she said that “starting today, I would no longer respond to any more Anti-American, Anti-democratic emails” and that “Hillary supporters are uncivil, horrendous (?) and vile”.
As if that wasn’t bad enough, she also once said that
including gays in affirmative action guidelines is “an affront to the civil rights movement.”
Oof.
photolady – She also said ,though, that if superdelegates end up deciding the nomination, she would leave the Democratic Party.
I think we should hold her to it.
For today, between bouts of crying I am saving every link everywhere I go..
In addition I am trying to save ideas from other sites that I like and wil bring them here.
One about the cards. They will be held up, but if there are postcards….
Someone here may have said that, I can’t remember…
Honestly, before today, I was mostly a lurker and never saved stuff. I would read it all, but now what we need is lots of ideas and info.
I will visit Ed O’Reilly’s site sometime today as well antifish, and I hope he will set up some kind of phone system where we can make calls if we want.
I would SO do that!
Rush would vote for Hillary.
What a wonderful, passionate post. I just donated to PUMA PAC. I want the Democratc party back. And I want the DNC, party leaders and media to feel our anger.
I’m also going to stop contributing to the Carter Center. Since Jimmy has so little respect for my candidate, I’m through with his organization. I’m going to donate to charities that are connected with Bill Clinton.
To those in FL, remember that it will likely go to the Supreme Court, even though it will not help for this election cycle. What they did to us in FL was illegal; a civil liberties issue. How many are from FL now? I am in central FL.Work on reforming the process is for a little later on down the road, right now we have to concentrate on things that will help our Hillary.
It does not matter what we do, “they” will always blame Hill and Bill – and only stupid people will believe them. One of goals now is also to somehow make Oprah’s sheeple know that she is brainwashing them, and to reverse or prevent that.
Has anyone heard of HCSFJM.com
They say they are the National orgainization of ex-hillary supporters for john mccain and claim over 15000 members.
I know nothing of computer stuff, and I know that there are trick sites being put up. Does someone know how to check and see if they are legit?
*snicker* I totally agree about Brazil and holding her to her word about leaving the party
MountainSong said: “It is my humble opinion that, whatever the Democratic Party may have been, it has died and is no more. From this point on, I will endorse no-party, non-partisan politics”
I agree with you 100%. The Democratic Party has been attacked by a virus from the inside and this virus has taken over control. For the last few months I have watched, in profound horror, the Party I was so proud to be a member of turn on the greatest hope this country has and stab her in the back repeatedly. The slanted media coverage of B.O. has not helped the situation. This is a sad, sad day for those of us who have also been betrayed by the Party we have supported for decades. My new Party is no Party. I am re-registering with no Party Affiliation. I have encouraged Hillary to run on another Ticket, but I am afraid this will not happen. If she were to become B.O.’s Vice Presidential Running Mate, I still could not vote for him. Ever. Period.
I heard on some show this week that Oprah is the way that BO and his hater wife are going to try to get the woman back – by having the tv lady bust in and try to make nice.
I haven’t watched that woman since she turned tail like so many hollywood hypocrites on hillary and went to BO. So this is one woman she isn’t going to touch.
antifish on 06.07.08 at 6:57 pm Oh, and Drae, I agree about the restructuring of the party, but I’m afraid they’ve made a grave mistake. Most of Obama’s supporters are about him, not the party.
I recall seeing an article on Huffington Post just after Iowa, saying that the typical new voter Obama brought in would vote for McCain if Hillary was the nominee. Deliberate? In my opinion, yes.
Hey Hill-Nation!
Hillary has a whole lot up every sleeve of every pantsuit in her closet!
I am as angry as everybody else but I’m also proud. For an “unlikable” woman with “lots of baggage” and the entire liberal media against her, Hillary gave Obama a run for his money. She’s at the top of her game right now, and the best way for her supporters to have maximum leverage is to work from inside the party. So, any talk for voting McCain or third party in November is a bit of an overreaction. Good for the soul, but not much else.
On the other hand, the Democratic Party ought to realize that it cannot take Clinton’s supporters for granted. Obama has to win my vote. And he should probably not count on my financial support — after all he did very well without me.
drae on 06.07.08 at 6:07 pm Brazille was one of the ones who, on TV, said that they didn’t need “these” voters. (meaning the uneducated, racist, poor, etc, etc, they kept calling us.
And she even told us to “stay home.” (!)
TO GOKIM – did it – got on the HRC website and called out some of our supporters by name asking them to move over here as it appears the no name one is taking over their site more and more – so we should see some more of our villagers soon -
Go Hillary -
drae -
It is legitimate. They have some great utubes. Not quite as sophisticated as this site, but OK.
He’s received a couple of threats actually because he refuses to post smut from ob trolls.
Read on a link that lawyers from Puma should take a look this site??? Do we have a problem.
I said…NOBama,
“PARTY UNITY MY ASS! UNPARTY
…to defeat Barack Hussein Obama”
I love it! Yes, we must put those invitations on our “Puma do” list!
Murphy -
Thank you for all you are doing. I am beginning to heal since finding this site – phew! I have never blogged before, so this is a new experience for me.
I just wrote Harry Reid, telling him that after almost 50 years of loyalty, I have changed my affilation to Independent, and would be voting for McBush.
I agree with LaMusing in her suggesting a ‘Daily Action Posting” each moring. I particularly need direction, as I am sure do others. If we could daily, or weekly bombard the superdelegates and others on a specific issue – starting with “NO VP for HILLARY” -
Tessin Florida,
I haven’t watched Oprah for 2 years now. How is she going to reach us if we aren’t watching? LOL!
Sorry – I cut myself off before finishing —
re: Daily Action Posting
I think this would be an effective means of making our intentions noticed – allowing us to use our funds where ‘necessary’.
Thanks again – everyone for the support this site offers and for the HOPE that it gives us!
goalucard,
I’m here and ready to fight on to Denver!
Great picture Ladies!!!
http://bp0.blogger.com/_sG7_Enm8RYA/SEgpw3jnW8I/AAAAAAAAALY/Xpm1w0uGbPw/s1600-h/WS.jpg
Was just on hcsfjm.com looking around. Read in comments by the site owner that the Obamabots are hacking the site and the poll there. They must be running scared!!!!
Let’s distinguish ‘working within the party’ from ‘voting for McCain this year.’
For people who already hold positions such as county party officers, imo it makes better sense to keep those offices for future influence. They can vote for McCain in Nov anyway.
For casual ordinary voters, a mass change of registration and/or registration at a McCain site this very day or this very week, sends a good message too.
yes, Murphy you are beyond awesome.
Don’t have much money, but I have time to offer. I can do whatever. Let me know, if I can be of service.
So about this site. Sometime I guess, after we all figure out what we are doing, there has to be some kind of huge group merge or overlap. At least for the big things, you know. The more people doing the same thing, the greater our voice ad the more clearly it will be heard by the “leaders” of our seriously ill party.
Actually, it will probably take a huge thunk up side there stupid heads, but hear us they will!
Just brainstorming guys!
I’m a PUMA, Are you a PUMA?
Wouldn’t you like to be a PUMA, too!
bflat,
“So, any talk for voting McCain or third party in November is a bit of an overreaction. Good for the soul, but not much else.”
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Speak for yourself. I don’t know that you really belong here. Please read About at the top of the page.
I agree, No VP for Hillary! Only President. If not 2008, then 2012!
I think we need to embed some of those videos, particularly the one detailing all the sexist crap Hillary had to put up with. It’ll keep us unified, and energized. As time wears on, sometimes your mind sort of marginalizes what really happened. I vote we take today to cry, grieve, and commiserate, but tomorrow, we resolve that its our time to fight back. There are some things I’d personally like to see done – one is to avalanche Nancy Pelosi and let her know we hold her to be a Democratic wolf in sheeps clothing, and we are going to hold her accountable for her sins. We need to mobilize. I was over at hillaryis44.org, and Clinton Supporters Count Too are merging with them for more clout. Somehow we need a big umbrella where all of our efforts are tied together. There is also clintondems.org, and HillaryClintonfor McCain and a bunch of others. How do we get everyone operating on the same page here? There is strength in numbers.
pa4hill08, thanks…I’ll give the DNC and Mr. Dean a few thoughts to remember me by!
Hey GoAndersen – the way I feel today – I just may take you up on carrying me to Denver – LOL – I will be at that march – and all my other senior friends as well.
Nice to see you here – we need to get some of the others that I just posted to come over – I am afraid that the no name ones supporters will be taking over the site there very soon – very sad – our home for the last year.
GO HILLARY GO
So are we going to have T.V. ad’s like Swift Boat ad’s , are we going to March ON DENVER and if so where do we go to sign up? When do we actually need to be there . I will NOT and REFUSE to vote Obamboozle. I feel that it is the Democratic Party that has been HOODWINKED. I have been reading all day how the Obama Camp and it’s supporters our spying on us to see what we are really up too. Please we need Hillary MORE NOW THEN EVER…..
Murphy – thank you! I am here, too … and ready to work with you all. Andersen, Undecided, Pooch – and all the Hill supporters that helped uplift everyone on the HillaryClinton.com have made sure to post pumaPAC.com info on the site – and I am so grateful to have followed their way here.
Onward we go!!!
bflat,
you are so right. Even as I was bawling watching her speech, God! she was something, wasn’t she.
I was thinking, I can’t believe everyone doesn’t see what I see. I just don’t get it. To me, she is the epitome of what we need at this time. And she has grown so much since the beginning of the campaign. I was heartbroken and proud.
Thanks for reminding me of the positive.
There is strength in numbers, the only concern I have is to be sure we follow our code of ethics and never say or do anything that would in any way reflect negatively on our girl. She’s had to deal with enough negativity.
#211 I said…NObama on 06.07.08 at 7:36 pm
Rolf….that is funny! and good!!!!
I’m a puma, you’re a puma
wouldn’t ya like to be a puma too.
Love it!!!
Please take the time to go and look at the photo posted at Hillaryis44. It speaks so clearly as to how Obama really feels about Hillary.
http://www.hillaryis44.org/
jdona,
there is a beautiful one on digby’s blog today!
If we are to “attack” anything, it should be M$M, in my opinion. I watched CNN for Hillary’s speech today; but have NOT been watching for quite some time because of their bias….AND I counted at least 25 different advertisers from Avis to Vonage. Networks aren’t going to pay attention to our grumbling, but they will pay attention to money. I intend to: 1) write each advertiser and 2) boycott each one.
Took a bit but here I am. Lets get ready to rumble TEAM HILLARY
Goalucard,
Our site is infected with tainted kool-aid. I am not going back. The rest of us will soon follow.
I will miss that site. I went there every morning first thing with my coffee for 18 months!!!
We must move gently through this time of change and fight for Denver!
And yes, I will carry you!
I think HCSFJM.com is legit. Ed Hale is a delegate in Texas. He’s had to change his site name and rework a couple of times. He began it to support “Clinton Supporters Count Too” since they didn’t have a website up (they still don’t!) but they objected to his use of the name. Then he tried another variation before settling on hcsfjm
Some of his people have posted about him at clintondems.com
If he’s really got a lot of members, he may have started his list under the old names.
His Donate button page says: “We are not asking for any donations at this time. However, we will set up a “527″ to run ads in Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Michigan and other swing states”
Grizzly I have no objection to conservative male veterans on the blog and I won’t hold being from Texas against you either. I think PUMA should include all rational Americans who wish to lend their comments and support regardless of political party or ideology. Some of my friends are staunch Republican and we have a lot of fun debating politics. Just got to remember to respect the other person and know opinions about politics are just opinions. The other person is not your enemy just because they hold a different viewpoint. Hillary supporters have endured a lot of profanity and unjustified name calling from the Obama supporters; unfortunately I don’t expect this will change. Anyway it’s nice to have another male voice on the blog.
That’s what I mean. Keep our seperate identity and purpose, but for the big stuff that needs big voice, we need an umbrella, merge, whatever to keep all these groups connected somehow.
I wish there was some way to do that easily, but there are more sites and groups everyday.
How would we do it???
I agree SusyT. And regarding your post democratnomore, vigilence is the key. I went over to the democrats against obama to list my name. My email was returned by my provider and said that the address was invalid. mmmm. Has anyone one else had that problem? Also, the numbers they have posted dropped from over 12000 to around 750. I am sure Murphy has his guard up here.
I said…Nobama
Thanks for the cool pic!
I don’t no how to like, but there is a great “rant” from a soldier over there. About why he is so upset at the DNC etc.
You guy’s really need to read it. It’s great!
opps, link
he he he
It’s so good to see familiar names…I hadn’t been able to post for about 5 days on the Hill blog…don’t know why, but I’ve read a lot of posts here saying the same thing!
We’re alllll ready to RUMBLE!
antfish,
Oh, ICK! He has so much hatred inside of him! Scary, scary person.
213 lizben08 on 06.07.08 at 7:37 pm
I agree, No VP for Hillary! Only President. If not 2008, then 2012!
I agree that should be the first project — to oppose any Obama/Clinton ticket!
She would just be sacrificing her own future to tie up with that loser.
I’ve got two petitions started:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/hillarynovp — for Hillary supporters who do not want her trapped ironing Obama’s shirt
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nohillaryvp — for opponents and supporters who have different reasons for not wanting an Obama/Clinton ticket
#202 antifish
Thanks for the compliment. My mind is sooo spinning right now and when that happens, I tend to get creative (or try too).
I am 1000% behind this project and feel so elated. After being so depressed lately, this cause has brightened my day.
GO PUMAS!!!
I too have registered on the Hill site … but they will not post anything. The BHO people may have taken over…..
The DNC has commited a great travistry by giving all “uncommited’ votes to BHO. How can they determin the mind of the voter?
It smacks of the 2000 election… hanging chad, manipulated results. I’m afraid the DNC has become what many fear, NEO-CON! When will the polititions and media realize we want our vote to count for something?
What the DNC has done here is EXACTLY why people stay home on election day… they have proved that our vote means NOTHING!
I have been a lifelong Dem, and feel I was helpful in electing many. (phone banking, walking precint…) But I must now leave the DNC to their own destruction.
Media:
About 8 months ago all radio and TV became the
all-Obama-all-the-time-networks. Even Air America!
With all that free air time anyone could be elected.
We know all media is neo-con owned.
I’m wondering if it’s possible they went for BHO because he was the weaker candidate?
I don’t want to claim conspiracy here but the last poll I saw put Hill against John and beat him by 12 points!
Put BHO against John and they are dead even.
Remember when the pundits were saying
“the super delegates can’t overrule the popular vote”?
Look now. The people elected Hillary–
The DNC selected BHO.
I have MUCH more to say about the heartbreaking DNC, but i’ll leave it for another time.
If there were ever a time for a third party this would be it!
We need Hill as VP… That way she is second in line.
BHO may have a better position for her but I really think VP is best for now.
drae..you’re right! so many,,new ones every day! We’ll have to check them out closely.
I have an idea I would like to run by everyone here. The DNC has clearly abandoned half of its core constituency and the Republicans are like vampires waiting to suck up every vote that they possibly can by exploiting this situation. I think its time to go third party. The closest match in values is the Libertarian Party. They believe the war in Iraq needs to end immediately, the power of the Presidency must be reduced so as to be co-equal in power with the legislature and the judiciary, the Patriot Act must be repealed, the Military Commissions Act must be repealed, the Terrorist Surveillance Program must end, and everyone regardless of race, creed, gender, sexual orientation, or any other category must have equal rights under the law. The government in DC has become too corrupt and powerful to remain intact. We must restore constitutional law and the writ of habeus corpus. For more info check out http://www.lp.org. Thanks for listening.
SEE NOW THATS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT – WELCOME GAY GUY and LIZZY IN CT – I know you would carry me Andersen if I could not walk to the march in Denver – thats what our Hill family does for us all – and now we are in for a treat with Gay Guy who always gave us our inspiration – so so happy to have you all here – gives me the energy to start emailing the superdelegates now –
GO HILLARY GO
YAY!! I see Andersen, Gay Guy, Alucard !!!! I loved your posts on HillaryClinton.com and I’m happy to see you here. I guess lots of the gang will be coming on – maybe with different names, though. Anyway, just wanted to say hello and thank you for giving the pumaPAC link on the other site! xo
Gay Guy – go to the archives and take your time and read some of the articles that have been exposed on the no named one – some I tried to get on our HRC site but would never post – probably because it was a site that the primaries were promoting – but with your brains you can help figure out how we can get this into the right hands and the media –
So happy to see you here.
Andersen,
It’s good to see you here, welcome! I wish Normita and Rosa Nunez will join us here too and Lucy from Missouri, also undecided but leaning.
Hi Gay Guy!
Welcome!!!!
antifish…checked out the picture of nobama…andersen hit the nail on the head….hatred….or maybe fear, or are they one and the same?
JamesLF,
Thats what I’m talking about!
Thanks for the link Im gona Ck it out.
CURRENT ARTICLE
A Soldier For Hillary Writes a Rant
By Soldier4Hillary on June 7, 2008 at 6:41 PM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Hillary Clinton
A 527 and a Blog: Hillary United
We had the opportunity to have the candidate who had Solutions for America. Not just one race, not just one demographic, but for “America”, you gave us the chatelaine of fake hopes & dreams.
We had the opportunity to have the teacher, you gave us the remedial student . I have been harassed and threatened, told the job I do is worthless, and if I am a representation of the type of judgment military personnel have, no wonder we are losing the war. I have had my accounts hacked, told when I deploy, they hope I never come back. All from the supporters who candidate based there initial platform on unity and a new form of politics.
This is not about Senator Clinton. This has become so much more than that, it is more than that. It’s about not falling in and bending to the will of the majority. It’s about fighting for what is right, when everyone seems to be doing something wrong. So I wiped away the tears, sat aside the heart ache. And asked myself what can I do to become part of the solution? And the answer came. Get rid of the problem.
So I lurked, and listened, plotted and planned. And on the 5th of June 2008, as I opened up the last message telling me I was a disgrace, and to stop publicly voicing my support, and to stop making utube videos acknowledging it. I knew what I had to do. Money may buy you a primary, but the people are the ones who win elections.
I created “Hillary United” a 527 that will support campaigns and organizations that remember the one true aspect of our government, “For the People” and “By the People”. That understand what makes our country, our great nation, what it is today. You cant blame the problems on our government. Our government is the foundation of this country. It’s the people who cause the problems.
If we want change, we have to change how we do business. To stop electing officials that follow the money, instead of following the voice and the will of the people. And the first order of business, is to remove the ones who have forgotten how to represent the constituents who have elected them to these positions.
We don’t have to “fall in”. We have another option. One that was lost and forgotten, but what civil rights leaders and activists that poured there blood, sweat and tears to achieve. We fight. I am not an expert when it comes to politics, but I do understand reality. We are witnessing up close and personal what happens when elections and primaries are determined in the court of public opinion.
When votes cast in good faith can be overturned and decided by a group of thirty instead of thousands. When the media can become more important that the voice of the people. We have a problem. This is a historical election. But not because of what many may think. It’s historical because we have witnessed the fall of the Democratic Party as we used to know it. We don’t need a third party because its time to take our party back. And for that to happen the Democratic Party will have to be reborn. Not on how the Donna Braziles have foretold as a party led by the youth. It will be reborn in the way in which it was originally founded. Led by not just the youth, but by all of us, despite race, demographics, or affiliations. From the blue collar workers to the private in Iraq sitting on gate guard wondering when they will be coming home.
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just a small part. I really like what he says “that it’s time to fight to take our party back.”
Why let them take it over, there are more of us in the big picture. Let us fight to fix this. WE WILL BE HEARD…
GROWWWWL
Just got an e-mail from Hillary detailing her speech today. When I was done reading it I unsubscribed. Since she and Obama have now combined forces…I can’t be a part of that anymore. Dean also sent the Unity e-mail and I also unsubscribed from their e-mail list as well. They’ll get the hint sooner or later. I can’t give my vote to OBAMA because that will make the DNC look like they did the right thing by handing him the nomination on a platter! They lied, cheated and stole and no way in hell am I supporting them. It’s McCain now and Hillary in 2012. I still have hope that something happens that will make OBAMA drop out and the real winner, Hillary gets the Nomination.
Lest we forget:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo
Hey AsianforHillary – good to see you here too – my last post I asked Normita to come on over – Rosa is not too happy now with our candidate and seems to have gone the McCain way – Lucy is on vacation – sister getting married – but she will be here next week. Undecided but Leaning is already here – under another name – don’t worry – I will work on all of them – we will have our team back in no time – to work on our strategy for Denver – as Andersen said we will be calm for the time being and work carefully together on how to accomplish our goal and when we strike – look out – surprise is always the best way to do it.
Hi AsianforHillary,
Good to see you as well. They will find their way here, I am sure.
antifish- he has that smug look on his face that makes me sick. He is to arrogant, he thinks he is above all that have it a little or a lot tough in this life. Just makes me more anti-obama if thats possible.
^5 for the 2years O’ free! LOL!
MSM – I was always a really big fan of Hardball and Countdown but what really made me shut that channel off for good in my house was when the washed up sports writer turned wana be politico did a special comment about Hillary – that really busted it wide open for me – I had been in denial, that the media wasn’t being sexist, I was being to sensitive because Hillary is my canidate – then I started to look back at things and started really hearing these commentators and my jaw dropped, they are all beating on HC for what so many have done before her – and now they have pushed her out of the race along with the dem party. It is un-American. It can’t be tolerated – It will NOT be tolerated.
Interesting comments:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/06/obama_takes_over_democratic_na_1.html#more
[Lynn Sweet is a frequent guest on Greta'a "On the Record."]
Posted by Lynn Sweet on June 5, 2008 11:00 AM | Permalink
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http://article.nationalreview.com LOBBING FOR OBAMA According to his campaign’s de facto standards taking money form state and municipal lobbyists is acceptable, employee former lobbyist on the campaign is okay, having lobbyists as unpaid advisors and taking money from lobbyists wives is acceptable. Obama has 14 registered lobbyists bundling money for his campaign. 1. Peter Bynoe has pledged to raise between $1000,000 and $200,000. Bynoe was Illinois state lobbyist who is on the federal governments list of people who helped raise money for Illinois Governor through Tony Rezko. 2. Mike Bauer pledged $50,00 to $100,000. Illinois lobbyist who was suspended from practicing law for improperly taking $300,00 from a family trust fund. read the article their are more. You want Obama for President. He lacks judgement and is not trust worthy. Go DNC!
goandersen and SuzyT,
I just see pure evil in his eyes. He’s very frightening to me. The virulent hatred of his supporters is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. I’m not an overly religious person, but the devil sure comes to mind when I see him.
kai,
just did the same thing. God it was hard to unsubscribe. Felt icky, but I want nothing to do with Obama or the DNP until we fix it.
antfish,
Who opened the “no, don’t go there box” and let him out!
I just mailed my thank you card to Senator Clinton and my “HAND” to the DNC. How Sweet it is!
Dear Honorable Senator Clinton
As you have found your voice and started to speak for all of us, our true fears and hopes, when you became our shepperd and brought us back from the darkness of desillusion , when after a tremendous fight , the fight of a Titan, you were asked to leave after a flawed, undemocratic process, then it is us who lost our voice. I know that during this economic crisis, this recession your leadership and continuous guidance gave us fortitude and courage so we can create a better tomorrow. It was so comforting that you were out there rocking the boat, breaking so many barriers, talking to us, people of the USA with specifics, without affectation, as smart as a being can be, human, brilliant, compassionate, and strong so strong but with all the virtues of a true humanist, the ease of a great State Woman, the care of a real Democrat, the devotion of a mother, constantly inspired and inspiring.
I for once have witnessed an incredible woman going to war for all of us, getting abused by a shaken , incompetent media apparatus (CNN or Completly negative Nihilits)somebody with will, guts, passion and again bright and articulate, ready to pull this nation back on the right track, following the legacy of the great Bill Clinton to whom we owe lasting past prosperity.
Senator Clinton, you have earned my respect and my everlasting Gratitude. You are a true American, a great Senator, one of the most outstanding politicians of all times.
We still need your voice because no one else is there, nobody even worth listening to.
Thank you, get some rest, we are awaiting your return.
“you best not be listening to that TV”
Mine will be off until next June! I cannot stand to hear bo’s voice, just like I can stand the shrub’s voice. ICK!
Murphy
Tomorrow you need to have a letter written for us to send to the DNC,with the how-to etc. The next day you need to have another letter written to send to the Obama camp. And every day another letter. They should be short letters, they should be sharp letters. The letters will let the DNC and the Obama campaign know that we are organized, we are UNITED (oops), we are determined, and we are 18 million strong. Slowly but surely the letters will let the DNC, Obamabots and the world know that there is a very strong, unified force that has to be reckoned with.
I want to thank everyone for all the great suggestions on how we can fight back. I think we need to really get organized and start petitions, divide into groups that will constantly protest to all the major networks, we need to make a lot of noise so they will know we are here to dig into the DNC and we will not support Obama. We all need to fight back and hard. I love the T-shirt idea, maybe we can send one to all the super delagates and of course to Howard Dean. You are all the best, let’s get organized.
Does anyone know HRC’s schedule after today’s speech? I hope she takes a looonnnng and deserved vacation. However, I read that she was making the MSM rounds on the Sunday shows. Don’t know if that is true, just read it on another site. BTW, I was a regular on Hill’s main page and also a TM transplant. Changed my name after I got some posters P.O.ed at me over at Taylor’s. There are alot of guys that support Hillary and want to see justice done with the DNC.
TessinFl,
Yes, his arrogance was the first quality that repelled me. The way he struts around reminds me so much of GWB.
goandersen,
LOL! We need to find a way to stuff him back in that box.
I also mailed my thank you card to Hillary this morning. I will go now to unsubcribe from the website although I haven’t been able to blog there for months. Nothing I wrote got posted, but I feel like I know all of you because I was always lurking:)
Just signed up and I am just heart broken over this whole nomination crap. I will never ever vote for Obama! He makes me so angry,and so does all the bias of the media.I will never turn on msnbc,cnn again,I banned them early in the campaign and I refuse to listen to the one-sided coverage they spew on there shows.
Hi everyone from HC.com,
Don’t forget about me. I am here too. I think I was the one who started the train over here to Pumapac. I am so glad you are all coming over. We have lots of work to do.
Does anyone know if there is any way that this site can be set up so that we can respond to individual comments? It would make things a little easier.
Jeremy re # 262
I heard/read she was taking a week off for R & R.
HRC is not listed on Politico’s Sunday Talk Show List:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/10906.html
Thought you all would get a good laugh out of this. He is so pompous and arrogant
Hillary Clinton announced her support for our campaign today.
Senator Clinton made history over the past 16 months — not just because she has broken barriers, but because she has inspired millions of Americans with her strength, her courage, and her commitment to causes like universal health care that make a difference in the lives of hardworking Americans.
Our party and our country are stronger because of the work she has done throughout her life, and I’m a better candidate for having had the privilege of competing with her.
Senator Clinton will be invaluable to our efforts to win in November, and I look forward to campaigning alongside her to bring this country the change it so desperately needs.
Hillary and her supporters are joining us at an urgent moment.
It’s going to require a new level of commitment from every single one of us to build a national campaign in the general election.
And we’re going win this election the right way (Did he do it the wrong way with Hillary) — by growing our grassroots network of ordinary people (so all of his potential contributers are ordinary?) giving only what they can afford.
Will you help by making your first donation today?
If you give right now, a previous donor has agreed to match your gift, doubling its impact. Help us reach our goal of 20,000 new donors by making a matching donation today:
https://donate.barackobama.com/match
It’s time for all of us to come together to take on John McCain in the general election. John McCain offers another four years of George Bush’s policies, which our country simply cannot afford.
To win, we must continue building an unprecedented organization in all 50 states. And that will only happen if we all work together, side-by-side. (In Your Dreams Obama)
Thank you for joining this movement and supporting a new kind of politics.
Together we can do more than just win an election. Together we can change this country, and we can change the world.
And we are honored to have Hillary Clinton at our side as we do it.
Barack
http://my.barackobama.com/page/m/7cc74d0d08f42ad8/BUygP3/VEsE/http://my.barackobama.com/page/m/7cc74d0d08f42ad8/BUygP3/VEsE/
antifish, goandersen, just did the unsubscribe and left a sweet little message, appropriate and so very clear!
antifish, from previous post…yeah…devil does come to mind!
tessinfl, know what you mean…all of these names are also familiar to me. I was there, but most of my posts never made it.
Here’s a great new video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9afuODNDYoQ
The next time they give you all that bulls–t about voting, keep in mind that Hitler was elected in full, free democratic election
KarlaforHillary on 06.07.08 at 8:52 pm
Does anyone know if there is any way that this site can be set up so that we can respond to individual comments? It would make things a little easier.
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Bravenet has a free forum that can be read either as a branching tree or as like this is. I’m using it at turndownobama.com message board.
hi all am back. I have a question? Did anyone notice Hillarys remark about the 18 million craks in that glass ceiling?She said all that light would come in?remember the saying from Obama that Hillary used. There will be light and angels will sing and all will be well I think that was a special message to us.18million craks with all that light pouring forth.Seemed special to me .Maybe I was just looking for something.
Thanks, antifish..loved the video!
Someone help me with this…how exactly do you take over the DNC when you have not been formally nominated, much less than elected???????? I don’t get it. I don’t get it. I just don’t get it!
Hello, glad to be here. Great blog today!
I wish we could respond to individual posts and also give titles to our posts…
Thanks for offering us this space.
Btw, Michiana for Hillary is the same as CatherineP. Nice to recognize a few names here.
Jane-PA, there were definitely many lines to read between in Hillary’s remarks today.
turndownobama
Thanks for the info on the Bravenet free forum. I took a peek at it, but have never used anything like that before. Not sure if I know what I am doing. Is anyone else using anything like that here?
Thanks for the update mcr. Glad to hear she is taking a much deserved break/vacation.
@ Jane-PA I agree.
What do you think the plan is?
Hold your cards everyone.
Does anyone know if there is any way that this site can be set up so that we can respond to individual comments? It would make things a little easier.
It sure would make comment and questions easy to follow and answer.
So good to see all the old gang here. What a sad day!
Alot can happen on the political landscape between now and the end of August. I’m sure more will come out about Oblamablama ding dong. Keep the faith.
Murphy and Jane: on what used to be Hillary_Clinton_In_2008@yahoogroups.com but has become, as of today, Clinton_Dems_Against_Obama@yahoogroups.com, I posted a brief analysis of the only two paragraphs where Hillary characterizes Obama. Very revealing, I think, once you examine the language.
HEY MURPHY….you and who else is on this 527 need to LEAD US…
HEY…6MIN. INTO HER SPEECH…HILLARY SAID..AFTER LISTING EVERY KIND & TYPE OF PERSONS …SHE HAS BEEN FIGHTING FOR….she said.”YOU STOOD WITH ME…and I WILL CONT. TO STAND STRONG WITH YOU EVERY “TIME”,EVERY “PLACE” AND EVERY “WAY”I CAN!!!!
THE DREAMS WE SHARED ARE WORTH FIGHTING FOR”!!!!!
LET’S GET THE MARCH TO DENVER ORG…..HELL NO WE WON’T GO WITH THE DNC SLECTION!!!!!!!
“PARTY UNITY MY ASS!…OK…FOR US TO ..PROVE THIS…WE NEED TO LINE OUT, AN OUTLINE FOR OUR OWN “unity”!!! we need to mobilize….by having a LINKS SITE HERE so we can merg. WITH OTHER GROUPS…..est. THE MARCH TO DENVER…..A PLACE TO SIGN UP….reasons are…1)THE FINAL SHOW TO GET HILLARY “NOMINATED”….at the convention!!
2) CHANGE THE VOTING SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE US
….WE ARE NOW A PEOPLE OF 300MILLION……IT’S TO BE ALL PRIMARY VOTING …”VERY VOTE COUNTS” and “COUNT EVERY VOTE”….A ROTATION SYSTEM FOR THE STATES would be nice and FAIR……MAYBE A 7 DAY TIME FRAME…SINCE THERE ARE 52 WK IN A YEAR
ON THAT 7TH VOTING IN TO TAKE PLACE FOR THAT STATE…
Is C-Span going to re-air the speech? I was not able to watch it earlier. I would like to listen to it “line by line” and feel what my “gut ” reactions reflect. BTW, good to see some familiar names relocating here.
I am very very glad to see I am not the only one who saw the totally shameful way the media covered this election up to this point. And the DNC, that is another story. Their actions from the very beginning appeared to be a set up but what really gets me is how the media took every opportunity to trash the Clintons. It got to the point, I could not watch a single one of them without getting angry. I used to like Campbell Brown when she was part of the NBC early show but since this primary election coverage, she has been so biased it is disguisting. How can we tell the Media that their activities are unacceptable? The only team that was relatively reasonable was the Hannity and Colms show on Fox. They at least brought up and hammered some of the questionable Obama activities. The mainstream media glossed over each and every questionable Obama situation.
Has anyone found a way to get comments to the Media? If there is a combined effort to reach out to them, count me in!
Do you all have to hit refresh in order to see the new comments? That is what I have to do, but sometimes it takes forever for any to show up. Am I doing something wrong?
true Murphy another wonder of hers:) Hope he shows his true self sooner than later. Hope McCain gets him into debate soon he does yuk in them. He sure is arrogant Mac. He hijacks money too. One time I thought i was giveing to Hillary and found it was his. I was sick.It was at an article about her.
Murphy
Please set up a place on this site where we can go for information. I asked the site to direct me to a place where I can get a copy of Michelle Obama’s disertation. That kind of request should prompt a diversion from the main thread and be directed to a research/library where such requests are answered.
I had written and submitted this for posting on the Hillary Clinton site. I am not sure if this will ever see the light of day on her site. You folks seem to share similar opinions as I do.
The speech Hillary gave today was nice but still, is it enough? Regardless of what was said today, I will not support Obama. I would rather support Hillary as independent than support Obama.
We are very (with capital letters) disappointed with what happened. We feel Hillary was totally short changed by both the media and the DNC (and that is an understatement). With the way things were handled, it seemed like a set-up from the beginning. (Ironically the media is really saying nice things now – since things have gone the way they wanted…)
I know I said it before but I think it is worth re-stating. I would have preferred she ran independent rather her deciding to abide and join the DNC in supporting Obama. (I still do not know how delegates can be assigned to people who are not even on the ballet in Michigan!!!) I do not feel Obama is qualified, I have seen too many things that he and his wife have done that cause significant concern. I sure hope with all my heart!!! that Obama does not win in November. And Hillary, I am a bit disappointed in you. We need you and had hoped you would not have given up the cause and settled for less than you and those who are counting on you, deserved.
Hi, everyone I am new here. I tried posting on Hillary’s web site but was unable to so I thought I would come over here and see what we will do next. I need to tell you all that I am not happy about how we have been treated and especially Hillary
Am I reading to much into this, but did she tell us her hands were tied; but not ours?
“To those who are disappointed that we couldn’t go all the way – especially the young people who put so much into this campaign – it would break my heart if, in falling short of my goal, I in any way discouraged any of you from pursuing yours. Always aim high, work hard, and care deeply about what you believe in. When you stumble, keep faith. When you’re knocked down, get right back up. And never listen to anyone who says you can’t or shouldn’t go on”.
TucsonTransplant,
You know, it was a sad day in a sense, but I still just have the gut feeling that it ain’t over yet. I posted earlier today that quitters never win and winners never quit. I think if we keep fighting, a lot will happen between now and August.
love that video antifish….and yes…replies to specific comments would be awesome…as this site gets bigger it will be harder to keep up
Thank God for computers, we can stay in touch with each other and plan the next move………….
It sure isn’t over……..we need to unite and become stronger……..no time for crying. I am tired of being called a moron.
Netexecutive-I understand and feel the frustration. I didn’t write every one but I did write to Anderson Cooper several times and got cynical replies back saying things like ” we at AC360 read every comment, however, don’t expect a reply back as we get thousands of email similar to yours.” Go figure. Some just didn’t even reply back at all.
Yowsa, it’s good to see so many familiar names here — it feels a little like home now that so many of our formerly friendly haunts have become just another place for the Obama supporters. Hopefully some of you remember me (though admittedly I was an infrequent poster) from TM.com and hc.com. I’ll try to be more active here once I’ve had a few days to recover from the horrid political week, and once I’ve read through this site a lot more and become familiar with how things are here. Meantime, it’s VERY good to see so many of you all together again.
TxLucy
LatinPuma,
I totally agree with you. I thought the same thing when she made those statements. I think she wants us to keep fighting even though she can not come right out and tell us to do so. I think there were many hidden messages to us in her speech today. She is a very intelligent person. She knows that we are not going to quit; that we won’t go down without a fight. What Obama doesn’t know is that he hasn’t seen anything yet. We are just beginning!
“Hillary and her supporters are joining us at an urgent moment.”
I’m not joining anything – Hillary is my canidate!
Where are these people getting this?? They are trying to downplay how big this divide is – just brush it aside and assume we will just show up at the polls and vote dem like good little minions? They have another thing coming.
The BO campaign, DNC and the MSM better wake up and listen to all of us that are down right mad and how we have been pushed aside.
I sent a couple emails to Donna Brazile asking her to resign and saying I’m voting for McCain. I didn’t bother to open her reply for 2 days because of the confrontational ones she’s sent to others. But when I read it, it was very civil and asked me to go back and review the conversation (I guess she meant the CNN show where she threatened to walk out of the dem party if the SD’s chose the nominee). Maybe she’s decided she needs us now. BTW, she’s still calling herself ‘undecided’.
Good evening, everyone. It is good to see all of the activity here. Just wrote my Thank You card for Hillary. Throughout this campaign I have just been in awe of her and I think BO is too. He always copies her. The other day I heard that he proposed a Lincoln-Douglas style debate to John McCain. Deja vu-didn’t she ask him to do the same and he refused?? Quite frankly I don’t think he can function without her! It will be interesting to see if he starts stealing words and ideas from McCain. This is why I did not want Hillary to be the VP–she would do the work and he would get the credit. I don’t think the man has one original idea. Maybe I am just a bitter old woman–I don’t have a gun and I am not very religious, so I guess I am just clinging – - to my bitterness. Sorry about that, I want to stay positive! Couldn’t help myself.
Yeah, you do KarlaforHillary- my refresh button is now stuck – it is good to see you here and bringing us here originally – good to see you too Catherine – Michiana
Anyone know anything more than I do. I watched the speech Hillary gave and I don’t want to wait 4 years to vote for her in 2012……..I want her now. Just when we think we have her we loose her. I have a heavy heart right now.
Karla for Hillary-If you are doing something wrong, regarding hitting refresh each time, then I am too. I guess that is the way this is set up for now. But it is hard to keep up with comments. I am not complaining, though, at least there is an alternative…for now.
Gay Guy, we never talked but I LOVED reading your posts and Anderson’s too! Wonderful you could join us. Let’s continue until everyone is here from the other site. My posts haven’t shown up for a long time over there. I tried posting to tell everyone to come here and it never did show up. I was always Trina Ky on there.
The DNC and “its” campaign do not want the world to know they have screwed up. This will be our job to let the world know it for sure. Let’s rumble Pumas.
Hi TxLucy. Good to see you.
“Congrats to Obama” (lol)
Thanks for the link, Adelle. I went to the site, and gave them an earful as well. Funny, the site doesn’t recognize “enemies” because I received many thanks and a link to send by email to my friends
TessinFl, I am also in Fl, don’t let them get to you. We’ll keep hearing it because they will never admit they’re scared we won’t pony up and if eveyone keeps hearing it they think we’ll all get discouraged and roll over. They obviously haven’t met a PUMA! We don’t roll over, no way, no how.
I know many of you are familiar with NoQuarter, but I don’t know if all of you are, so I am posting the link. There are many good articles over there right now.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
Will someone please remind me what the acronym P.U.M.A. stands for? People United ??? I can’t find it anywhere and it’s driving me nuts. Thanks
I tried to post all day and couldn’t. I do not see any new posts. I went into see where everyone was moving to and I saw this so I registered here. We really need to have a plan. We shouldn’t take this for one minute. 18 million is many upset folks, young and old, from all walks of life. We need a game plan and we need to start ASAP
SuzieforHill – I think what she did not say – is the key here – she did not say that she was going stumping for him, she made comments that would leave you to believe in between the lines if you know Hillary – that she will always be there to fight for us – and I don’t think she was applying for a job – she is hoping that there are enough of us to know that she wants us to continue on to continue to pursue and be there for her – I am sure that from now to the convention a lot will happen with the no name one. We all just need to have faith that she knows exactly what she is doing. I do believe. And feel stronger now than even before for her.
SusyT – The gaul of the BO people (and all the haters for that matter) just floors me sometimes – I know you’re right but I can’t help it at times.
And you are 110% We will never give into this
Hi bluegrasstina,
Good to see you!
I think the HRC site is done. Everyone has left except the trolls sniffing for crumbs.
Hello Gay Guy………..I enjoyed your posts today. I just read as I couldn’t get anything posted. I must have tried for a good 4 hours and gave up.
Hey Suzieforhill ,
This is definitely Heavy Heart day.
We’re going to rise and so will Hillary!
Keep your chin up!
Hello again Hill Family. I see GayGuy and others….so this must be the right place, I hope.
I’ve been blocked for the past 4 days on Hillary’s site, so I’m curious whether my input will be accepted here.
I totally agree with what others have said here today– we must stick together and cast our votes as a block. As I’ve always told my clients, a unified strategy is key to success. Right now, I feel that strong communication must continue. Hearing your thoughts, ideas, and collaborating via strategy-brainstorming on this site is critical at this stage. Over the last year, Hillary has become my mentor for tenacity, dedication and true grit. With her lessons learned, I’m now ready to fight back.
Please count me in.
If the media hadn’t covered up the Rev. Wright sermons for months and if all that stuff had come out earlier, the 18 million votes number would have been much higher and we would all be rejoicing right now— so so sad, but somehow, I feel there may be a light at the end of this tunnel.
Goalucard4hill..I think you are absolutely right!!! It is what she didn’t say.
I just have this “gut” feeling and have had all along that something is going to blow wide open and the tides will turn!
mamapuma
I have read the thesis, parts 1 2 3 and 4 can be accessed from this page
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.html
O.K. guys-too quiet. I know that this blog takes awhile and we are use to faster tech. Correct me if I am wrong, admin, (Murphy) but more expensive.?. Anyway, who, in your opinion, outside of Hillary’s own campaign were the most fair to her in regards to media coverage? My #1 was Joe S. When he talked to Hill, he was sincere and I really believe a fan and knew she was the best and most qualified canidate for 2008. You could see it in his body language that he was secretly laughing at the DNC for piling on Hillary and puffing up Bawack. What is your take?
Hi everybody from hillaryclinton.com blog. I love Hillary and I am going to miss her. But I guess if she’s running in 2012 we can start campaigning for her now really. Just like we have never stopped. We will be better organized and after the GE we can start donating again towards her next run. Are we going to Denver? Is there a march planned? I thought I read something about that earlier.
I went to the McCain blog site and it was ok. For themost part people there are nice and welcoming, but I felt like I was cheating on my partner! It just felt weird. But I will support John McCain so we can pave the way for Hillary in 2012 IF she is not our nominee this time around. I will endure McCain for 4 years for the prize of Hillary after that.
Glad to be here.
Sonya in GA
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d25/babybago/image.jpg
new bumper for me…hope the link works…
I’m not throwing Hillary under the bus! I read between the lines of that speech. She is so brilliant it is almost blinding sometimes. She has to walk the “political” walk.
She asked us to stay with her. We have work to do. One thing is keep us all together so that we can all go to Denver together. Woooooooooooo Whoooooooooo!
MamaPuma #288
MO’s Thesis site is:
www/politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.html
Have Fun!!
Mountainsong – it’s: Party Unity My Ass! Gotta love it.
Hey, Jeremy! Good to see you, too.
Anyone heard from the original Lucy, the one from Missouri? Haven’t seen her anywhere lately. And GayGuy — has he found his way here yet?
TxLucy
LOL @ goanderson-are there any crumbs left?
I’ve been replying to Howard Dean emails with ‘NOBAMA. P.U.M.A.’ The more references they get to PUMA, the more they’ll pay attention.
Susy T I know but I am bummed out. Really miserable today. I worked so hard……going door to door almost was physically kicked off the property of bo supporters. I don’t give in easy and I plan to fight for Hillary. They think by shutting down a web site they are going to keep us from uniting. They really screwed up this time and with 18 million people that aren’t going to sit back and take it.
Jeremy, I watched Morning Joe quite a bit..usually he was okay. Lou Dobbs was okay. He did mention the bias several times.
Hello, everyone. I’ve been reading the HC.com blog and followed you all over here. Thank you, Murphy, for organizing this.
I find it amusing that the DNC leadership is banking on retaining the youth vote in the future. As a college student, I have witnessed firsthand the brainwashing of my “peers.” Upon encountering Obama’s minions, I always asked them why they supported him. Not a single person could tell me. The closest thing to a reason was “Hillary was already First Lady…” (!)
The real motivator behind the all-aboard-the-O-train youth movement was that Obama was trendy. Months ago, the thrill was already beginning to wear off. Sorry, Ms. Brazile–this demographic will not be carrying the DNC torch for you.
Murphy: Is there some way you could add a ticker to the homepage showing the growing number of PUMA members? I think that would be beneficial as we generate more press.
We are going to run out of room on these posts. Moderator, can you widen the columns, and reduce the font just a little bit to stretch out some so we can fit more posts here without having to spend 15 minutes getting to the end of the page? Has anyone been over to taylormarsh.com? She has done a complete 180 in her stand. She swore she would not make the case for Obama, but make the case against McCain. But she is making the case for Obama right and left. That blog has been completely taken over by Obama’s camp now. Its really disheartening. Well, we have a home here. So, lets get to work, heh? Anyone know Nancy Pelosis email address? I just can’t wait.
In response to { LatinPuma } I do believe that, as to if that what she was saying I’m unsure. I also believe we need to be careful as to Obama Camp , they are very sneaky. There was an article in one of these online papers where his guy David Alexirod was saying that they actually paid News Pollers to say that Hillary was catches up to him in the poll, this was called BANKRUPT the Opp. That was about as DIRTIER as what he did to Alice Palmer, I find better things on the shower walls at the GYM, then this guy…….
I know what you mean regarding the JM site. Kinda of hard to really say what you mean and know if they understand what you are saying. Cumbersome. But I will vote for him as of today rather than “the other.”
Jeremy,
I agree with you about Joe Scarborough. He was very fair. Oddly enough, so was Pat Buchanan. I saw him stand up for her on many occassions. It was clear that he had admiration for her.
Unite the Sites! Let’s be organized and do everything together with all the other sites!!
My vote for a T-Shirt:
STOP
the
OBAMA
NATION
I have a son who was traumatically brain injured 20 years ago when he was just 14 months old. At that time insurance companies were allowed to just say NO!
I lost everything after the accident. My home, my credit. My 4 year old son who saw him fall was psychologically screwed up because he kept thinking he should have been able to stop it. He is 25 today and just started therapy.
Bill Clinton made the insurance companies HAVE to accept everyone no matter what. Know what else Bill Clinton did??? He made it so that structured settlements given to traumatically injured people could not be taxed and that the money they earned from those dollars could also not be taxed.
I was young and didn’t give a damn about politics, but once my son was injured everything changed. Bill Clinton was the only political person who changed and helped our lives.
Things like that aren’t just thought up. They are a belief. Hillary is just as important to so many. She will make a difference in everyone’s life.
goandersen
I agree with you.
Woooooooooooooooooo Whooooooooooooo! for me also.
#311 MountainSong
PUMA – People United Means Action
or, Party Unity My Ass
Take your pick!
By the way, moutainsong? PUMA = Party Unity My ASS!!! And that is exactly the way I feel!
DawnE,
Love that bumper sticker! I want one too:)
TxLucy-I think there is one post from Gay Guy upthread but I have not seen Lucy from MO for about a week. In fact, I think she was posting on Hill’s site the Friday before the PR election.
You know you don’t go to a church for 20 plus years without knowing what is going on or was he sleeping during the sermons. I don’t like his wifes remark that this is the first time in her adult life that she is proud to be an American. What is the story about the lapel flag, saluting the flag and on and on and on???????????
jeremy,
only tongue marks on the floor
Love your bumper sticker DawnE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m a Republican and I have to admit that I began to admire Hillary and was secretly rooting for her to whip that smug marxist thug back to Chicago. I was floored with how she was treated by the DNC and I was even more appalled at their behavior when it became obvious that the democrat voters did not want nor did they vote for Obama. How on earth did Obama get half of the Michigan delegates when he wasn’t on the ballet? Wow, so much for democracy! Apparantly George Soros’s money and influence means more to the DNC than will of its everyday American voters.
I am not a big McCain fan, but at least the democrats who vote for him can be confident that he is an “across the isle” kind of guy. He is much more of a moderate than he is conservative so democrats don’t have to worry about another Bush term.
For people who think they are having trouble with slow posts, Murphy reviews all the posts before they are shown. It may be slower but it makes for a much nicer enviroment free of you know who’s.
the definition for PUMA was the first time I laughed all day………..my husband and I really needed that. I want a bumper sticker
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/ What a great site. Besides HC.com this is the only site I’ve blogged on about the elections. But I’ve had time to explore today and I’m bookmarking left and right!! Thanks so much!
I’m a Morning Joe person as well I watch while I’m getting ready for work- It is the one news show left I can tolerate – I’m lukewarm on Mika but Joe has been really cool IMO through this election – and to my suprise Pat Buchanan as well.
Hi, May we organize in regions such as east coast (north), east coast (south), midwest, southwest, northwest, islands, Alaska, etc. I need to connect with my colleagues nearby if we are to go to Denver or organize home parties such as in Oregon where they did voting parties before ballots were mailed in. Such a great start.
O.K., so far we have: Joe S., Pat B, and Lou Dobbs. All highly educated, versed, and vetted. I agree with all of you that posted. Wow…3..just 3. That is amazing. But you know, those 3 are some of the most qualified, educated, vetted, and “been in action” people…and respected in what they do.
Jadona-TaylorMarsh is another tragedy outside of the events that brought today’s “forced” speech. Not all of it! I need to see it for myself. But in regards to TM–we need to let it go.
Obamination typlifies the ills of the world today. People think it’s better to push, shove, and take instead of saying excuse me or please.
What obots and the msm did speaks for the way our world is going. Nobody (figuratively speaking) looks beyond their nose and believes what is fed them. Many of our youth did not know the legacy of the Clintons other than what was told to them.
Where are the critical thinkers?
That is the job of each one of us … to feed the truth and make people think. And, that’s a big job.
I am 52 y/o and I have never typed as much in my entire life as I have in the last two months … writing letters, emails, blog comments, etc.
Everyone has great ideas, we have to act on them. We know what we have to do. While Murphy who is doing an amazing job perfects this website and we get into teams.
Everyone have a great evening.
Anderson, crumbs are going to be all they get come August. I think after we turn the dogs loose, there won’t even be crumbs left for them to lick!!! My husband asked me tonight what PUMA stands for, and after I told him and what is going on,needless to say, he wants to be a PUMA too!!! My entire family will be voting MCCain. WE have been lifelong dems but there’s always a first time for everything and if our girl isn’t at the top of the ticket then it’s McCain for us.
I agree organize in regions…….. It is a start and can be very powerful. brazille thinks she is in control of everything. She can’t control 18 plus million.
Hi again,
Just unsubscribed from Dems e-mail list. Felt good. Thanks for the idea.
As far as reforming the party is concerned, I do think we need to fight so we have a voice within the party. Check and see if you can become your precinct chair (that’s what they are called in TX) or try to get any other position that’s open. You do this by checking your state Dems website. Many of those slots are empty and all you need to do is fill out a short app and get approval from the party. That’s the first step to getting in. Don’t badmouth BO to party people. They don’t need to know where you stand right off until you have more anti-BO supporters working with you. I don’t think I can completely close the door on the local Dem party yet because we do need to retake the party, instead of just abandoning it and letting these people do whatever they want.
Just a thought,
Lara08
mayor,
I agree. We have to get organized. I’m in Northern CA
Good night everyone,
I have to go now. I’m looking forward to working with all of you to get done whatever needs to be done to get Hillary in the White House.
goanderson-speechless..NOT. But glad you reported it. Did not want to go and check out what manics do when they get a key to “real” hope and “real” change.
Ahhhh…this place feels like a HillHome, but even better, and w/o Trolls.
yeh, I’d like to know what Media resource we can trust. Would be nice to have at least an option or 2. I’m waiting for Marc Rubin (Tom in Paine) to post article–don’t think he’s written today, but am sure he will soon after Hillary’s speech this morning. Murphy, can we make a list on site?
DeepSouth,
My T-Shirt imput;
Hill-Nation
hey all ….just joined here with my partner Dawne…just ready to do what we can to get our country headed in a different direction …Hang in there Hillary …we have not given up ….Hillary for President 08!!!
I saw Michele on tv with her personal designer I guess they are getting her prepped for the white house all I can say is Rosie ODonald had her personal designer and how did that work for her? well dress her up fix her hair just keep her away from the mic. or maybe we should’nt tell them that. I LOVE the bumper sticker too!
Jeremy,
I know. I can be sarcastic. I just really miss the HRC site, and now it is infected.
TXLUCK Where in Tx??? I’m Ft, Worth
Jeremy – I’m sure the cable stations will play it again late night tonight but it may also be at cnn or UTube.
antifish:
I am registered to vote in MA and am on board with helping O’Reilly get elected.
Any MA voters here who want to help get the word out? See his positions at http://edoreilly.com.
If you miss Hillary speech today you can see it here in full
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm5hQDFfRvA
Murphy-I’m a new member of PUMA. I have a question to ask about the organization but don.t want to do so for public knowledge. Would you consider sending me an email so that I can ask you in private?
PUMAINDY – I have written several emails both to Rasmussen Reports who always has his articles on their site and directly to Dick Morris – telling him not to quit his day job – he has always been against Hillary and Bill to the point that he should be sued – I wonder who he will be gunning for now that she is not in it. FOR NOW – Also Pa4Hill08 – great work on giving each States switching parties requirements – appreciate all the research you had to have done to get that – so good to see you here.
A little more about HRC speech today – she does not consider us uneducated and I think that she spent a lot of time on this speech to give us codes to look into and figure out on our own on what she wants us to do – by our own actions – it will get the media off HER back, the money will not be coming out of the campaign fund, and she will be there waiting for us
Its funny on our HRC site – everyone of us had our own speciality that made it work for her primaries – some blogging, some donating, some calling, without a direct supervision on any of our parts – if we could get really organized here with direction on which avenues to take – nothing could stop us now.
mayor0102 #350
I agree. Maybe they could put up a map or a states box and we can registar what state we are in. We sould just click on the state and a list of our blog names will be in it. I don’t know, just a thought. But we do need to organize in each state.
Also, I still think we need to send actual letters to the super delegates until the convention in August. That coupled with the fallout from the dnc may wake them up enough to change their minds.
Sonya in GA
Hi everyone,
great to find this site. I joined because I have something to communicate and I hope you’ll read me:
1) – To the person who said she heard there are “only” 20% of us, you probably don’t realize that 20% of 18,000,000 is almost 4,000,000 votes. Add to those the ones who had voted for BO before the Wright tapes were made public and now are regretting it bitterly and you will see that there is enough there to cost the DNC the White House. One estimate I found put the numer between 6/7,000,000. The MSM is downplaying by not giving a number but saying “a small number of disgruntled Clinton voters say they will vote for Mc Cain” but then both Candy Crawley and someone at MSNBC when asked if the speech Sen. Clinton had just given was enough to move her 18,000,000 votes to Obama, they said: “we will see, if the flight to Mc Cain stops or slows down in the next few days…” They are running really, really scared, I tell you…
2) and this is very important: when Don Imus was fired because of his racist remarks, websites sprouted all over the internet with petition to CBS and MSNBC to please reconsider. They deplored the comments but felt that apologies, a suspension and perhaps a monetary punishment could be enough in view of the man’s humanitarian and charity work. The very next day ALL the websites had disappeared from the Internet never to be seen again. So, my advice to us all is this: expect them to play dirty. Now that Sen.Clinton has been forced to join the band wagon of the Neo-Liberals, their next move could be to take over and make all her support sites simply disappear. If that happens, (personally I think it’s more a when than an if), move the discussion to the Mc Cain campaign web-site: they can’t touch us there.I pray to God that I am wrong, but if I am not, put someone in charge (Murphy?) of going to the Mc Cain campaign and ask to open a blog for “Mc Cain Democrats” (try to avoid using Hillary’s name so she will not be held responsible for the Obama’s fiasco).
3) This website: womenforfairpolitics.com has petitions sponsored by Lenny Davis, an old friend of the Clinton’s, to ask Hillary to take the vote to the floor of the convention (the one I signed) or to ask Obama to put her on the ticket (NOT!).
Come on PUMAPAC, this is just the beginning! Let’s take back our beloved Democratic Party!
Hey, anyone interested in a little pushback against the media, The City Edition.com has organized a campaign to pressure the Senate Commerce Committee to hold hearings on FCC and anti-trust violations by ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN, Time and Newsweek. For more info and contact info for all committee members, please visit the website. Here’s a direct link.
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/MediaPushbackCampaign.html
Thanks.
Isn’t she just the grandest lady, our Hillary! Where does her strength come from?
I know she is doing what she has to do. I’m so glad she only suspended her campaign.
My husband and I just unsubcribed to receiving emails and requests for money from the DNC. We suggested they email us again for money when anyone of them could match the many contributions Hillary has made to make this a better world.
It felt great! So we are ready to go to work, Murphy.
On Monday I am going Independent. Maybe that will shake up the Dems if they have a lot of us moving.
I could do more bumpers, but I think I’d get in trouble with the other half of the mailing budget. I do, however, still have some Hillary ones if anyone wants…email me at babybagolight@yahoo.com (my old email….in case spammers are lurking)
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d25/babybago/untitled.jpg
SunnyPA-I don’t know if you listen to Rush. I didn’t until last March. Could not handle it. But, he had a synopsis of what a male college guy who was asked the question of “who or what is the reason for going with Barack Obama?” on his show last Friday. I was glad I caught that segment. It justified my thoughts of their reasoning. Also, the young believe what they are taught early in life and then it becomes fact. Many do not “explore” or “think” outside of the box. That is the easy way. Not dissing any “age” group, but that is how it is. Anyway, if you can get the transcript of that show, I think it will answer some questions. I feel if I posted what Rush said, some would consider it “racist.” That is the world we live in now.
Hi Guy Guy and Karla. Has anyone seen Normita? Susan is here somewhere. Maybe some of you have changed your names since moving over from HC.com. Lillabet is still there. Let’s see if we can get her to move over. She may need some help with the signing on stuff.
As a lifelong democrat and active campaigner in 04 and 06 for democrat candidates, i too an leaving the party and casting my vote for McCain.
I have incredibly strong ties in the progressive community, but there is no way I can vote fo Obama after the vile campaign he waged and his lack of any real character. He will say or do anything to be president. He has no vision for this country…just one for himself.
I have joined Citizens for McCain:
http://citizens.johnmccain.com/
and will be working for him this year. The campaign has already called me back.
My vote for McCain is more than just anger over the DNC’s treatment of one of the most capable and inspired candidates to ever grace the political landscape. I have admired his stand on energy and immigration for some time.
Remember the Bush-Cheney Energy bill. Hillary and McCain voted against it…obama voted for it. Great way to makechange if you can’t even oppose Bush on energy.
SonyaD, good idea re: the map or list by state. I’m in Pacific NW, Portland, Oregon and would really like to know other supporters out here.
Murphy, can we develop map or list-like–whichever easier for you right now? And by the way, you’re doin’ a bang-up job here. thanks so much!
SanCarlo you may have a point. We could go to McCains Website……I am sure they will have open arms. I personally would like the Dem. Party run fairly but I lost faith in that. I will tell you I am not voting bo I will vote McCain first. I want Hillary and NO ONE ELSE
SonyaD,
Where in GA? I’m in Acworth!
I know what you mean goanderson. We are in a big state of transition. It is hard. Humor and sarcasm can be tools needed at times. I appreciated yours. BTW, see your in CA, TX here. So it looks like our group has some good regional representation going.
WE NEED THE TICKER FOR MEMBER COUNT…ON THIS SITE……AND A SIDE SITE LIST OF GROUPS IN OTHER STATE WHO CAN GIVE US AN ORG. FEED ABOUT THE UNITY IN EACH STATE WITH THE SIGN UP LIST FOR THE MARCH ON DENVER KNOW….GET GOING PUMA’S!!!
MURPHY,…HELP…GOOD NITE
Do all of you remember BHO’s comment about bitter people? I love the new comment,”And we’re going to win this election the right way — by growing our grassroots network of ordinary people.” Humm, how does he define ordinary? Would that be the bitter, gun toting church goers? I think he should continually be called to define these terms. Let’s show him what “ordinary” people do.
Ok. I have never voted for a republican in my life. I am going to vote in this election for the first time republican. Unless Hillary somehow comes away with this nomination, I will never vote for Obarf. The DNC has stepped all over women, who account for the largest and most loyal voting bloc in the party. They have shit,spit ,kicked and ignored us. For What? A completely incompetant man. They do this because they, just like an abuser, know they can. They say, just like an abuser, if you leave Roe v Wade will be repealed. That is a lie. All judicial appointments MUST BE CONFIRMED BY CONGRESS!!!! Republicans need Roe v Wade to not be overturned so they can drive a wedge between voters. Just like the Dnc is now using it as a knife to our throat. Face it ladies, this is an abusive relationship. Now they come with flowers and apologize and think we will go back. NOT!
The DNC has left us with these two choices. They have done this to women and our country. Vote for an incompetant terrorist associating, racist preacher loving and angry wife loving idiot, or vote for the republican. It’s your choice ladies. Well I don’t like being bullied, cornered or abused. I may not like things about Mccain, but this election has taught me many things. Strict party loyalty is a dangerous road, look at Obambi’s voting record, not once has he ever stood up or taken a stand when it was hard to do. At least I know John Mccain loves his country and has dedicated his life to the service of it. He has worked across party line, he has Hillary’s respect, and he is a moderate. That is why his party is up in arms over his nomination. Not conservative enough. We will not get universal Health care with Obambi, we will get Nuclear energy with Obambi (Exelon owns him) we will have a welfare state with Obambi. These example plus his utter disrespect for Hillary and Bill Clinton topped with his cheating, lying and disrespect for women are not things I support in a candidate. What is in it for me? Nothing, just a reinforcement of the abuser victim relationship.
This decision has not been easy. It is difficult to deal with your ideals crashing down around you and that is exactly what has happened. This vote is not so much about me but about all women and our country. Unless we take a stand now, nothing will ever change. It will only get worse, we will be taken for granted, as we are now, and never given the power or voice we deserve. We have to take back our power and our voice NOW!
I’d rather protest and have 4 years of Mccain looking toward Hillary in 2012, than have incompetant Obarf in the White House with Ayers, Farrakhan, Wright, Olbermann, Cafferty and Pflegar patting eachother on the back knowing they “held those bitches back”.
We need to start organizing for Denver. I wrote Harry Reid and told him I would see him in Denver at the biggest demonstration since 1968. Let’s make it happen. Hillary suspended, not ended, so her delegates still count. Delegates: stay strong, you do not have to switch your vote…go…be the last person standing for Hillary.
Anderson, If we can get some Oregon people on this blog, we could start something inbetween Washington and N. California. It’s a start. Susan was in Seattle and there were a few others on HC.com that were in the PNW. It’s gonna rain all summer up here so might as well do something productive inside. I’ll go back to the Oregonian newspaper and see what I can find out about the people in Oregon who had the house parties.
Thanks Murphy, you are doing a great job and we need a place to gather at and regroup and decide what action would get us the results that we will be happy with.
Anyone here in Ga?
Sonya, We’re not too far away from each other. It would be great to get together with like-minded people. The map idea is great. Murphy, how can we help? $$$$$$?
Wow! I’m finally in. How do I get rid of this red print? I was a member of Hillary’s website and enjoyed reading all the comments. I felt lost today because it seems *61 supporters have infiltrated the website.
I am grateful that Hillary suspended her campaign. I only watched a snippet of her speech, but the crowd was enormous.
Let’s organize and help her in 2008 or 2012. By joining PUMA, I feel that I’ve taken some of my power back. It is good to see all the familiar names and blog again. I’ve been reading other sites that are pro *61 and the attacks are relentless. Someone else said this, there is nothing worse than sore winners.
The posts of Silent Reader, Evy, Sabrina, Caspercat, and Gay Guy are so inspirational.
Go Team Hillary!!!
THERE PLENTY OF TIME TO CHANGE PARTY…REMEMBER WE ARE FOR HILLARY FIGHT…INCLISION…COUNT EVERY VOTE……..MCCAIN TROLL CAN SIT QUITE….THERE’S PLENTY TIME TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN AFTER AUG!!!!!!!!!
YRM,
Thanks, I’ve bookmarked the site and am putting it on the top of my “Puma do” list for tommorow.
I love the photo there! Zombies for Obama! That’s what his supporters are like, isn’t it. Can’t you just see them with their arms outstretched at shoulder-level, a deer-in-the-headlights look on their faces, chanting “Hope, Change, Hope, Change, Hope, Change….”
SLDEM-Thanks for passing this info around regarding citizens for John McCain. I joined his site over a week ago and then filled out the information regarding citizens for JM yesterday. It is easy. Got my confirmation email today.
antifish
I work in Kennesaw and live in Rockmart- Paulding county. I drive through Acworth every night.
Were you the one that saw my Hillary bumper sticker on my truck one day and gave a thumbs up to me?
What are the feelings on the petition for Hillary ? The two surrounding counties here are very Hillary. I think I could get a lot of support here. We are still in shock but we will be better in a day or two. Just have to regain our strength. I don’t know how Hillary does it with all of her energy day after day. She is one great person.
Have you all seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Bama006
Very touching
Tx here too….
A march on Denver would be so over whelming………way to go. I would want to go for sure.
My son and I….(the son that is disabled and will always have what he needs to live out his life thanks to Bill) talked and we will both be wherever we are needed and participate in whatever we are asked to do.
UNITE THE SITES
Murphy and PNW friends, By the time the west coasters get on PUMA after work, its bedtime for our friends on the east coast and certain areas of the mid-west. I always tried to blog early in the AM, but that isn’t always possible. I still want to hear from all my Hillary friends from one coast to the other. We had some pretty creative people on the HC.com blog and I’m sure they could be effective leaders. I’m not that technically astute to use the internet. We need people like you in each region. Do you have friends and relatives in every region? Thanks for what you are doing.
mayor0102,
OK. I will wait to hear from you
If Obama wins in Nov, his faction solidifies control of the DNC. Calling it ‘reform’, they will stack the process worse than they did this year. A real Democrat running on real Dem issues would have an even harder time than Hillary had this year: the real Dem base cannot attend caucuses, and BO’s faction could increase the power of the caucus states, and lord knows what else.
This may be our last chance to save the Democratic party from becoming a puppet front for the moneyed interests.
Hey DawnE. Greater HOU area here. Welcome.
I hear that Obama is starting a New Grassroot movement to get the people in WV , KY and place as such, what can we do to get boots on the graound as well ???
To add to my last post , not everyone has a computer. Or any other access to information…. Any Idea’s we really nned GRASSROOT CONNECTION…… This GUY IS SLIMER he a jellyfish.
Mayor 0102,
Food for thought:
Good idea, I was thinking in the same line: I think we also need to work on getting strong by every constituance ex; jewish, hispanic, seniors…etc (remember how they broke it down at the exit polls). We need to go forward with a strategy that is objective. I will attempt to contact the hispanic leader who supports Hillary in Texas, I know they mobilize fast and once they know about PUMA and its purpose they will join (this group is very loyal to Hillary). Murphy, Karla, anyone we need a to do list/task because we need to make every day count. I am in Indiana and would like to join/meet with others here on how we can get the word out.
beverl leslie,
Great post! I agree. I’m also concerned about this 8+ Billion dollar world fund he’s proposing to help underdeveloped countries. Last time I checked, the Gulf Coast still needed to be rebuilt, we had tornadoes that have wiped out entire towns in the Midwest, and millions of Americans live below the poverty level. I’m not against helping other countries, but shouldn’t we take care of our own first?
How can we remove our infro from HRC website especially our credit card info and email address? I don’t want NONAME to have those info.
Any suggestion?
Hello Hillsters!
What a speech today – laden with the message that she’s doing what she has to do to fight another day and we must do what we must do to help her get there!
Couple of thoughts:
Take it easy on Murphy – I don’t think she (?) expected it to take off so fast with so many people. I’m sure she’s working triple-time to just keep up with the blogs.
It’s important that we focus on involving everyone – meaning men too. While I understand some of this is about the sexism and misogyny, it is also against the charade of the primary process.
Organization. We need for PUMAs to step up and grab a project and head it. (i.e. PR Team, Spokesperson, Promotions, Research, Web Design, etc.) Murphy’s got her hands full just doing this site.
Those PUMAs who have skill or interest in that area should make arrangments with each other to ‘meet’ and lay down a plan to report back to us. (Plus that will cut down on Murphy’s need for vigilance.) I would suggest a secure chat room that requires a password or something similar.
From what I’ve read here’s what has been proposed:
Boycott of Media Sponsors
T-Shirts
Bracelets
Flooding DNC with protests (written)
We do need a logo
I probably missed some. Ok PUMAs, it’s GROWL POWER time. Let’s get organized and make our presence known.
[hugs to all]
It’s wonderful to read everyone’s posts and fabulous the way you’re monitoring for BO trolls, Murph! Ahhhhhhhh! I’m getting pumped again. I’m giving myself a break tomorrow, but on Monday … back to emailing superdelegates and I’ll keep emailing protests to the DNC. Daily. There’s a ground swell … REAL change is coming, folks!
omg. I love the bumper sticker ideas! I’ve been very hesitant to put an anti-BO sticker on my car (as much as I want to!) – with as hateful as many of his supporters have behaved, I’m fearful my tires might be slashed!
I’ve still got to mail my thank you card to Hillary and my protest postcard to the DNC.
Have a restful night, everyone. Thanks for being here!
I think we have a lot of work to do. I would be thrilled if there was a way that we could get Hillary into office. I really don’t want to wait until 2012. I will not vote bo, never. I’ll vote McCain first and I won’t be happy doing that but he would be better than bo.
SonyaD,
Wow! So close! We must meet up soon. No that wasn’t me that gave you the thumbs up, but I have a Hillary sticker on my truck too! I’m going to leave it there and put a Democrat for McCain sticker on the other side! Hope my truck doesn’t get attacked by Obamabots!
Anyone have the candle link?
Asian4Hillary- I have the same concern. I do not want any of my credit info and certainly none of my personal info going into the maniacs hands. I am going to call HRC Headquarters on Monday. Surely they will still have some sort of phone bank or voice mailing system to take calls. This is legit concern.
BEVRL – I have always called him the no named one – but OBARF is the best one I have ever seen so from now on I am borrowing your name for him – May0102 – good to see you here – you have always given sane, solid, inspirational posts.
On the Bracelets – I’m thinking BLACK with GOLD LETTERING
BLACK is for the DNC Blackout
GOLD is for suffragette/
BLACK is also to make the statement that it’s not HIS race that we object to, it’s his vision.
Front Wording: HILLARY CLINTON 2012
Because that’s a date we all know will come.
Back Wording: YES WE WILL
Critiques please!
Hey Guys,
been reading all the great comments and hearing the ideas and enthusiasm. thanks for the words of support.
I’m leaving the “Thank you”post up so that new users can get an idea about what we’re about. tens of thousands have visited in the last two days. The Guardian UK online cited us, and Michelle Malkin linked to us (gasp!).
Right now the main work is getting organized and keeping the blog going as a forum so people can keep talking. Am working non-stop to make that happen. you guys are great.
newcomers, please join the conversation. it will make you feel better — get your feet wet. the people here are very nice.
will be back in a few minutes.
DawnE: Love the bumper sticker! I will print it and laminate it!
Jdona:
When you get on the site, look at the right margin and click on the first blooger reply and it will take you to the bottom of the page to log in. I’ve been away all day and sometimes I like to read what I’ve missed, and sometimes I just want to log in quickly.
I too listened to HRC this afternoon. When she said that the glass ceiling had 18M cracks in it and that the light was shining through, I though of PUMA and that it’s up to us to make the move and shatter the glass.
I also want to respond to a blogger who mentionned not to switch party. We PUMAs are all democrats at heart, I felt strongly enough to let the democratic party know how I felt with a direct action. Trust me they are looking at the numbers, it was just mentionned yesterday that 33,000 signed up as independents . I just did and my husband agreed to switch. I will not vote BO regardless of HRC’s support and besides my vote=protest vote against the media, dnc, & Obamacamp for down playing us. Have you seen their blogs lately, mocking us and yet they need us to win?
That’s why I keep coming back here, to be with people who are planning and acting to take back our party and get Hilary into the White House…and Stop BO.Why else is she suspending? As a threat that if Obama doesn’t pay off her 30M debt she’ll fight in Denver?-That’s not our lady, she’s too classy for that!
United We Stand For Hillary,
Mayor0102 suggested we get groups formed in all the states.
Thanks United We Stand 4 Hillary regarding the men here. Alot of us guys are in this and support Hillary Clinton.
I found the obamabots to be totally rude when I went door to door. Funny isn’t it that we aren’t like that we just want Hillary in fair and square. This whole system is so unfair. I think we need to dump this delegate and super delegate method. We may have needed that system 100 years ago but I don’t need so idiot making decisions on the way he or she thinks I want to vote. We need to change that too so this never happens again.
Great news Murphy and thanks!
#288 MamaPuma on 06.07.08 at 9:23 pm
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hillaryis44.org has people who have been doing research and posting links for a long time. Try asking questions over there.
I also have a research site, http://1950democrat.livejournal.com
It can be searched by going to this page and adding your term to the search box:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=8XV&q=site%3A1950democrat.livejournal.com+&btnG=Search
Greetings!
I’m in exile from Hillaryclinton.com.
I’ve tried unsuccessfully to blog there all day; and when I looked earlier, the last blog there was posted over two hours ago. Is it me or have they silenced the voices?
It’s nice to see familiar names here; I know I’m in good company. Here are the few points I’ve been trying to make all day:
I thought Hillary gave a powerful speech, and maybe I looked a bit hard for hidden messages; but I do believe they were there. I noticed that all the Clintons were dressed in black. They are mourning too. Hillary did not smile when she endorsed Obama. How difficult that must have been.
We’ve seen what she had to do for Senator Obama. (remember, she still represents the Democratic party, ugh) But maybe we’ve yet to see what he needs to do for her. Surely there are concessions from the other side. Maybe the endorsement on her homepage (ugh) will bring some of his millions to help pay off her campaign debt.
Have faith. Do not feel deserted. All delegates have yet to be counted and the Clinton campaign is “suspended”. Isn’t this what we had hoped for?
I think better days lie ahead….how far no one can tell. But I for one have never been so invested in a political campaign and I’m more eager than ever to fight for what is best for our country. I’m a better person because of Hillary Rodham Clinton and others of you I met through her campaign site. I still have faith.
Bracelet…Love it.
Not keen on 2012, I want it NOW!!’08
But really-Leave the date blank, don’t underestimate the power of the people. Besides, it’s not over yet.
Deepsouth
Thanks and I’m sorry about your son’s accident. I’m glad you both are here now. together we WILL get Hillary in the White House.
I agree with getting organized. Maybe we should all list the states we are in. Then form groups for each projects per region. That group can set a time to IM each other so we can all get in the conversations. We need these groups so we can start getting organized.
Just a suggestion
Wow, it is so good to find there are so many from the Hillary site here. I was slow to catch onto blogging, but now I feel this is the only way to still help Hillary. Some of you may remember me as Robin on Hillary site, but everywhere else I have been lizben08.
Thanks Murphy for giving us a place to stay together. Just trying to figure out, how I can best help Hillary now. You all seem to be a wealth of information.
I live in Bellingham, WA, about 90 miles north from Seattle.
MO just makes me gag every time I even see her. I really fear that the Obama’s say one thing (anything) to get elected and into the White House, but once there….well, those thoughts are downright scary.
I think that MSM may already be figuring it out~~~that Hillary is just taking a break and that the campaign of NObama against McCain is going to reveal some very startling truths now that Hillary isn’t in the picture. They realize she didn’t surrender her delgates and are talking about the support she has from the Jewish vote,. All he has is the student age, idealistic academic youth and the white collar types who will only manipulate him. blue collar worker, Latinos, moderate Republicans, senior citizens, and women from all walks of life who refuse to give up on Hillary. So the spin will now be on how NObama/McCain can lure us to support them. NObama has to be sweating bullets realizing that most of us will vote McCain before supporting him. No doubt he is already crying crocodile tears to Sugar Mama Oprah.
Also, it’s becoming more apparent each day that Israel, with the backing of the USA, is going to attack or invade Iran, more than likely BEFORE the election. I just can’t see NObama in a Commander-in-Chief role, especially under those circumstances.
By now, they must realize that we are serious and organizing a nationwide movement that far surpasses any plans NObama may have had so far in his astounding, elitist arrogance.
I may be 65 this year, but I am more than able to do anything we need to do to contribute to our cause and I really adore this site. Thank you all for the hope you inspire.
Thanks Murphy…………….it does help to get on here and feel like we can make a difference by banding together. We could even march on Washington or just save our energy for Denver and writing to everyone involved that had a part in taking Hillary out of the running. I am still upset but each day will get better and with goals to work on we can get Hillary into office where she belongs.
Andersen – here’s the candle link:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=hrc
I emailed Normita. Hope she comes here, too!
I live in California and am so upset that Hillary has suspended her campaign for President. Clearly, there are so many of us that are completely behind her. I’m hopeful that perhaps she has something up her sleeve and will take the nomination at the convention.
I’m new to this site but am curious why so many are registering as Independents? Would’nt it be better to vote Democrat and just leave the President blank instead of voting for Mc Cain?
Wow, Murphy!
Michelle Malkin’s lead story is about us! Yes! As I said in my email to you yesterday, we will be a force to be reckoned with! Go Pumas!!!!!! Growl Power!!!!!!!
http://michellemalkin.com/
United we stand 4 Hillary
I like the colors for the braclet. I like the Hillary 2012, but I want to get away from the yes we will thing. It reminds me too much of BO.
Since it’s for the 2012 run, we need something more original. That’s just my thoughts.
I like the Hill Nation motto.??
Just want to say hi. I posted occassionally on hillaryclinton.com with this same name. It seems like no more posts are being put up there. Oh well.
If Ron Paul was doing better in the polls, I would vote for him. I am afraid it would be a throw away to Obambi, like
when Nader ran.
Hey I am turning in for the night………..it has been a very long day. Hope to see all of you in the future and we will all work together to unite stronger than 18 million. I am sure we can do much better. I figure once bo and McCain start slinging mud at each other we will find out more about bo. Good nite to all of you.
Just want to add that I’m so glad we are have a new place to go too! It’s great to see some of the regulars here. I’ll miss the official blog though.
SusyT on 06.07.08 at 9:10 pm Someone help me with this…how exactly do you take over the DNC when you have not been formally nominated, much less than elected????????
SusyT, the first thing we must do is make sure Odrama is not in the WH.
Vote for McCain.
That will send a strong message.
Then hopefully Dean will be run out of town : – )
Anyone from Ft. worth, Texas , i’d like to get some idea’s for this area and get a list of whom in the area is willing to go to DENVER to PROTEST.
Hi all, good to see you all over here, did not listen to the speech today just could not bring myself to do that. I did read the transcript and found many messages in there. I praise Hillary for her amazing journey and thank her for the lessons that I learned along the way.
I learned that the democartic process is flawed and can be manipulated any way that meets the party leaders goals.
I learned that women can be disrespected and whipped into a place that makes them invisible.
I learned that the MSM is a mean machine except for the andidate that they support.
I learned and knwe from first sight that Sentor Obama has no character and integrity. I learned that it is okay to steal from one candidate and give to another although I was taught early on that stealing is a sin.
Lastly and most important, I learned what a wonderful amazing woman Senator Hillary Clinton is and I will stand behind forever. May God grace her footsteps wherever they may lead her.
Now as I move forward I have unsubcribed to HRC.com I know that we need to stand together to fight the injustice that has been done to HRC and to all Americans.
So Let’s get this party started. Good Night all, sleep well we have a lots to work to do! By the way I was cmt on HRC.com, was able to get some posts in.
Grrrr!!! Just heard a commentator on Fox say the Dems think BO is their Reagan. How dare they even use his name in the same sentence as Reagen. He doesn’t even amount to Reagan’s toe jam!!!
Just like when they use his name in the same sentence as JFK….GRRRR!!!
What Nerve!!! That POS isn’t worth wiping the shoes of JFK or Reagan.
What has happened??? What are these Jim Jones types thinking? Are they thinking at all?? What the hell is going on here???
I am so disgusted and full of wonder! I just can’t get a grasp on the thinking here!
Just dropped by TM to see what’s happening. Found this great statement by a poster called rickya. Makes me feel better about what I must do on election day.
“A vote for John McCain is a vote for change in the Democratic Party.”
rickya
oops make a few spelling errors that is candidate they support; that is I knew; and that I will stand behind her. Sorry late need to get some sleep.
good night again!
SonyaD….thanks for saying that about my son. We know who made a difference in out lives, but we didn’t think about party….we thought about the individual. Bill made two huge differences in our lives that lasted forever and to all those in my son’s position.
Those differences weren’t something that was a huge political deal….just something he did that made a difference. That is what makes him different. That is why I know Hillary has the same thoughts and values. She is the real deal and I will fight for her to the end.
Re: How do we get our message to others
Bracelet and bumper stickers are good ideas. Could also prepare PUMA posters that we could print out and put up wherever we go. Poster should have logo, website, and group’s goals. We also will need spokespeople who will reach out to media. I know MSM hasn’t been our friend (and probably never will be), but we need to find ways to move beyond internet. Any other ideas? -Lara08
Suzieforhill,
I am not saying we should move there, only if there is a take-over (disappearance) of this website.
I too am hoping we will accomplish what we set out to do: bring Hillary to the WH at the next elections. If that proves impossible then and only then we should look to Mc Cain, as a last resort and only as a mean to bring Hillary back in 2012.
I am also writing to the lady who is asking for an investigation of the MSM to tell her I am behind her 100%
What an inspiration this site is! Keep up the good work…
And they compare bo’s wife with Jackie………..sickening
LizzyinCT,
Thanks for the link.
CaliKathie,
I live in Ca as well. I switched (after 39 years)to Independent because I can no long support the Democratic Party after all that has gone on.
I read BO went golfing during Hillary’s speech…….probably golfs like he bowls!! HA
Good Night everyone GOD BLESS TODAY & ALWAY’S
DeepSouth,
LOL! toe jam.
I still the republicans are behind this. They know Hillary would trounce McCain.
I don’t think Jackie would ever think of saying some of the things that bo’s wife has said. Jackie was all class. She needs to talk more often………hehehehe
Does anyone know how to find out how many people have left the party?
Thanks for all of the great information, everyone. I have recovered from my bitterness and had an idea for organizing an email campaign. What if we wrote a letter together and sent the same letter to all DNC members and superdelegates. I haven’t gotten very far in this idea, since it is getting late, but I thought we could begin it with:
“We the 18 million who voted for Senator Hillary Clinton representing the diverse population of all regions of the United States kindly request that you reconsider your endorsement for the Democratic Party nominee for President of the United States. We further resolve that . . .”
Then we could come up with resolutions that represent our position. Something like that. We could flood the delegates with emails all with the same, consistent message. Any thoughts?
I think they took down Hillary’s blog site. Nothing has posted since around 7:30 p.m. I just rewatched her speech this afternoon and it was soooo forced. No smiles and lots of jaw clenching. I can’t believe she’s giving up. I just think she’s placating the good ole boys for the moment. One of the commentators compared her to Lucy and the football with Charlie Brown. Maybe she will still yank the football. I will continue to wear my Hillary pin everyday proudly. I am sending my handprint to the DNC and another to Hillary with $10 to help with her debt. Now McCain and Obama can tear each other up and who knows what might come out about BO in the next three months. We can only hope.
So glad to be a part of the PUMA’s. My son (27 years old) and my father (84 years old) are joining, too.
A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON
1960 National Convention
1960 represented the last time that there was true drama in a Democratic convention.
Thousands of people flooded into the convention on opening day carrying Stevenson signs and banners.ELEANOR ROOSEVELT proposed a Stevenson-Kennedy ticket.THEY PUT Johnson ON THE TICKET SO TO WIN IN THE SOUTH…..THIS TIME IT WILL BE TO THEM MAKING IT RIGHT…EVERY VOTE IS TO COUNT…..AND ALL OF FL & MI TO BE SEATED…..
Johnson’s strength in the south to win
(the JFK administration’s ground-breaking committee which helped start second-wave feminism, the PRESIDENTIAL COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF WOMAN.) THIS TIME …..3TH TIMES A CHARM!!!!!
THEN IN 1968 DNC THIS IS WHAT HAPPEN
Some confrontations are planned. Some are spontaneous. This one was planned, but nothing happened the way it was supposed to. Many months before the Chicago convention, experienced movement activists decided that it would be an ideal place to confront “the system” and demand an end to the Viet Nam war. They invited one hundred thousand people to come and demonstrate. The City of Chicago responded by refusing to grant permits for any marches and for only one rally.
The expected masses did not show. Only a few thousand people participated in the demonstrations;
WE GOT TO GET READY….LET’S GO PUMA’S…..
sancarlo……………..I know what you mean. I just got a little concerned when I couldn’t post on Hillary’s web site. You know we lost our votes and now it feels like we can loose freedom of speech. I know they are running scared and they should because they think that over 18 million people are going to sit back and take this disrespect and we aren’t taking any of their orders.
Ok – here’s what I’ll take up
Database of all PUMAs – please send me:
name/addy
email addy
Messaging System you use and username
Where you feel you can help out in campaign
If no one has any objections, I’m going to start pasting the letter I sent to the delegates on blogs everywhere to explain who we are and why we are.
Anyone want to tweak it or should it go as it is?
Bracelets
Scratch 2012
Maybe Hillary Clinton and The People’s Choice?
NotFallingInLine,
I heard 33,000 so far from an earlier post.
Can we identify who lives close to who, so we can have face to face meetings. Then we can strategies.
star,
If Denver refuses permits, I say we go anyway.
Guess my email WOULD help – LOL
thatelusiveone@aol.com
an easily deletable email !
I’m on Eastern Shore of MD
YES, TXPuma! If BO had accepted Hill’s bowl-off challenge, she would have crushed him and we would not be in this predicament. He knew he couldn’t get out of the gutter…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqO19JYOmY4
Lara08,
We could have a team whose sole purpose is to visit other websites and invite others to join us with a short description of our purpose and goals and a link to this website.
Jackie Kenneday was an elegant, classy, refined and humble person. There is no comparison.
Star…………….you know it works too because I protested a toxic waste dump being constructed near a school and homes. We were told we needed a parade permit. We told them it wasn’t a parade it was a protest. We were told we would be arrested. We told them there are going to be over one thousand people so they better pick a large facility to hold us. We did a five mile protest with over 1,000 people and guess what no toxic wasted dump………..it is all about numbers. We have to unite !!!! Lots of home work to do but we will get it accomplished and get Hillary in the White House where she belongs.
Hey, girls and guys our Normita was still on the HRC web site and wondering where everyone has gone…I emailed her (she gave us her email the other day) and I told her to come here…I tried to post 3 times to tell the information ..No Luck…Yes, I think the site will be shut down tomorrow or Monday..We all have to keep fighting for Our HIllay…I will give in or give up…Never ….Hillary is too important to us and most of all, this Country Needs Her….
I have been an Independant since 2000. I was a registered Democrat since 1968. I have not seen a primary season like this one. I am so remarkably proud of Hillary, she has come further than any woman in the History of the US. I can’t think of any woman who can claim her level of acheivment in the male dominated political arena.
What we saw today was very difficult, I had a hard time reading her. I could tell Bill was very sad as was Chelsea – I know she had to give that speech, but seriously why did she say Obama so many times. Am I the only one who thinks she tried to drive it home a little hard on backing Obama? Jeez we get it, not that many of us are going to do what she said and fully back Obama, but we will certainly stand behind you Hillary.
This will be the first election cycle since 1980 where I will not be voting. I lived through the 60′s and 70′s – I will never vote for a republican – honestly I don’t think that’s what HRC woudl want anyway – but there is no way I’d vote for a man who may keep our children in Iraq indefinitely.
I know a lot of you are pretty young, but when you have a son or daughter go off to fight in a war – you certainly do not want to continue that war for too long. And that is what McCain will do. We’ve all heard of his conservative appointments to the Supreme Court as well, Roe v. Wade would be overturned by 2010.
No way I’m casting a ballot for him. I’d rather not vote than vpte republican. Hell no!
antifish on 06.07.08 at 11:26 pm
TM is overrun by Obamabots and she is encouraging them.
I think it’s to keep her hit counter up so her advertising does not drop any further.
At any rate I don’t feel it’s productive to talk to Obamabots. They don’t listen anyway.
They’re too drunk on koolaid or hopium : – )
GoAndersen
I am a republican among millions that were entranced by Hillary! We were going to help her trounce McCain.
She was our middle person. Our ONE that fit just right. McCain is good man…a patriot who loves his country and was willing and almost did die for it.
I know this about him…we all do. He is a centrist who leans right….Obamanation is a left wing radical who is insane in my opinion. Hillary was PERFECT!
I will say it again that Obama isn’t worth the garbage on JFK’s or Reagan’s shoes. Anyone that uses the BO in the same sentence as those great men can go to hell.
I am a republican who has just learned from the Democrats how horribly a party can take control and take away their voter’s wishes. I have already changed my affiliation to Independent because I will NEVER let that happen to me.
This experience has taught me that no one should ever give themselves over to a party. Vote your mind and vote indepently.
I’m on board for everything to stop the Obamanation and help Hillary or the Demo Party.
We need to go public with PUMA asap so we get more here speaking and working together……..Murphy you are going to need help : )
Don’t forget to sign the petition to unseat Howard Dean:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/65/petition-for-howard-dean-to-resign-as-dnc-chair
HillGirl
I think writing letters is an excellent idea. Can you supply me with the email addresses of DNC members and super delegates? If we continue to flood their mailboxes between now and the convention that would be a pretty powerful statement.
goanderson
I’m in No California, what part of the state do you live in?
Grassroots organizing in every state is also necessary to reach all those “bitter people clinging to guns and religion” who do not use the internet, and may not even have a computer.
Attention: united we stand4Hillary… QUESTION???? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY “MAYBE” HillaryClinton???????Am I missing something here?????????????????
Here’s the letter I sent for those of you who are new PUMAs.
This election comes down to who is most electable in November, and Senator Clinton holds the two cards that count: she has more than enough GUARANTEED Electoral College votes to win in November. Senator Obama does not. Her support base is composed of repeat, committed voters that you can count on in the Fall. His are new, young, and overscheduled, not as committed to getting to the polls.
I also wanted to dispel any notion you may have that ‘we’ will support Senator Obama in the Fall. There is a huge citizen movement building in opposition to the undemocratic way this primary has been run. We are not just women. We are male, female, trans, gay, bi, and lesbian. We are families, single moms, single dads, seniors and college students. We are Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Spiritual and Atheist. We are white, black, brown, red and yellow. We are educated, street smart, uneducated, or being educated. We are poverty, lower class, middle class and upper class. We are rural, urban and suburban. We are mainland states and island states. We are Clinton Democrats and PUMAs (watch for this moniker). We are any citizen who feels this primary process is unjust and must be fixed. WE ARE AMERICA.
If Senator Clinton is not the Democratic Nominee for President of the United States, we, 17 million strong, we will VOTE McCAIN or ABSTAIN. We are not going to ‘fall in line’, even if Hillary asks us to or if she is on the ticket. We support her vision of our American future. We do not support the vision of America through the eyes of Barak Obama. We will choose McCain because he is a moderate conservative that has sacrificed for our beloved country and is not afraid to go against the grain of his party for what he believes in. We are not concerned about Roe v. Wade because a Democratic Congress can stop any movement to overturn the verdict. A Democratic Congress will also ensure that McCain’s power will be limited for his four short years of office. We will not put a Junior Senator with less than one year of experience in the Senate who has questionable connections and poses a threat to 60 years of tolerance in the most powerful position on Earth – President of the United States. In summation, we feel that Barak Obama poses a much bigger threat to this country than John McCain.
We also want our democracy back – ‘of the people, by the people, for the people’. We want transparent, simplified and condensed primaries that are accessible in all ways to ALL who are eligible to participate. One person, one vote. We are prepared to fight for reform, peacefully and legally. We are gathering and organizing. Mr. Dean has received hundreds if not thousands of shredded voter cards and party change request forms already. McCain is seeing a huge increase in registrations on his site. We will work to ensure McCain’s success and the removal of all elected officials who played a part in this charade. We will make it our mission to find out who voted against their district’s and constituent’s choice and endorsed the opposite candidate. We will begin working on Hillary ‘12, as independent voters. We will make Martin Luther King, Jr., and all the people who sacrificed, fought and died for our democratic rights PROUD.
We welcome all who feel wronged, disenfranchised, halved and disgusted with the DNC and the direction and leadership of the Democratic Party. If you feel the Democratic Party no longer represents you, join us.
Responsible and respectful discussion is welcome – negativity is not. Our site is moderated for unwelcome comments.
Bo the new Reagan Democrat. MO, the new JO…sorry Jackie Kennedy Onassis (sp). That is what 8 years of Dubya has done to a media that has been ignored. This is bull crap on its face and worse. O.K. United We Stand 4 Hillary. Been away for a few minutes. Yes organization. What is the request for? Confused. Been away for a few minutes. Database for organization or bracelets? Give an update. Thanks. As for the others, Hillary’s site has been “bought out” in my opinion. Just leave. I only hope my personal info has been erased.
I just unsubscribed to HillaryClinton.com. It was one of the toughest things I have had to do recently. I am so happy to see some of the regulars here. Some have other blog names now? Anyway to tell who they were on Hillary’s site?
The blogs on HillaryClinton.com are starting to look like ghost towns! Hope to see everyone here soon. Can’t even think about voting for Obama ever.
I DID LIVE IN COLO. WILL BE GOING BACK IN FEW WKS BUT WE NEED TO GET INFOR AND A GROUP ORG. TO GET A PERMIT…I FOLLOW NATIVE AMERICAN SPIRITURAL…THERE’S A LOT OF INDIANS IN DENVER…AND L, CROW DOG ENDORSE HILLARY….
THERE BE FEW ROOM TO RENT BUT …ALL KINDS OF CAMPING…….
I live in Towson, MD. Love to have lunch with anyone in this area. Email is mamamoog@hotmail.com. If there is a will there is a way and we seem to have a lot of will so lets combine it and make it work for Hillary. I think her speech was to get the good ole boys off her back. I just don’t think she is giving up.
I just voted in the AOL straw poll and Mccain is winning by six points LOL! Anyway, there was a post in the comments that I loved so I’m going to share. I hope I am not violating any intellectual property.
swamp10:16AMJun 6th 2008
Marty3:36PMJun 2nd 2008
A reading from the Obama Scriptures for June 6, 2008.
From the Book of St. Marx
Chapter 6
Verse 66
In the beginning there was video tape.
and the Tape captured the Word.
and the Word was HATE.
and the Word sprung from the mouth of a Man.
and the Man was Wright.
And try as they might to keep
the Tape from the people
they could not.
After the lands of many caucuses had voted
the Tape was seen.
And the Lord Obama appeared distraught
because the people cried out Why Lord?
Why did you keep this man of hate in your midst?
And the Lord appeared to them and spoke:
This man is not a man of hate.
You do not understand what goes on in his pulpit.
Hate is Love
Mocking is Forgivenes
Insults are Ecstasy
Everything you believe about reality is wrong.
I am the Light and the Way.
Afterward the Olbermann tribe was first to sing out:
YES! YES LORD!
Lies are truth!
Hate is Love!
Division is Unity!
Soon the CNN Tribe, and the Huffington Tribe sang out
in praise of the Lord.
And those who knew
in their American guts
something was still wrong
tried to speak
but they were called racists
and scoundrels
and lepers.
And so the Arugulas worshipped their Lord in the public square
and worshiped St. Marx in secret.
And it came to pass that the Word of Hate was made normal.
And the march of the Lord went on as before.
The people pulled the wool back over their eyes.
And all was well.
And the Lord took a break to sneak a smoketh.
We support your efforts to prevent that unqualified fraud Barack Obama from becoming President.
“Patriots Against Obama”
http://patriotsagainstobama.blogspot.com/
Casper Cat – I posted on the HRC website that did make it and had the subject line to Gay Guy, Gay Gal, Northern Girl, Normita and a couple of others to come on over here to us – as we needed their inspiration – I knew that Evy has already visited this site and I know Lucy from Missouri will be coming over after she gets back from vacation – now that will wake everyone up here that has never seen her posts – tomorrow I will go after Lilabet, Tutite, David Power, Silentreader, Patrollie, SparkforHill, Yoga82, AbigirlTex, I am Destiny and Today – that will be a majority of those that really participated hard with the campaign.
So glad that you are here.
Who lives near colleges? Wouldn’t it be great to pepper campuses with our grievances against the DNC and hit *16 where it hurts?
I’m up for that one!
Brent222-TaylorMarsh has been in with the BO camp since North Carolina. I am just beginning to realize that now. She had one paticular podcast of her radio show that if you listened real close that her aliance would be with Obama. This is no surprise to me. Also, she want people to go to several links were she get paid for each time it gets a hit. TaylorMarsh is a Barack Obama site. Don’t go there if you don’t want to get sick or burned. No offense to TM fans, just the facts.
Casper: Whoops. Misinterpretation there. The bracelet would say
HILLARY CLINTON (front) THE PEOPLE’S CHOICE (back)
Black bracelet with gold deembossed lettering.
If I can get an approval from most of you I can dummy up a pic for visual.
How do you unsubscribe at Hillaryclinton.com?
THE ONE’S THAT ARE SERIOUS MEET AT HIGH NOON HERE TOMMORROW….START ORG.ING….NO MORE WASTED GRIPPING…..OF COURSE WE CAN’NT HELP FOR A LITTLE…..PLENTY OF TIME TO DECIDE WHO & WHEN TO VOTE IF WE DON’T OVER TURN THIS B.O.TRASH TRAIN…..WE GOT ABOUT 6 WKS…MOVE IT…MOVE IT
GO PUMA’S…..PUT THAT ANGER TO GOOD USES
United: I attend a college that was 90% pro-BO, in an otherwise pro-Hill state. I’m here for the summer, and summer students will be arriving in a couple of weeks. We should get some material together.
Also, I have a friend who just graduated and went to work for the DNC… I will try to get some insider updates from her as things progress.
United-we-stand-4-hillary,
I just read your letter and I would like to continue posting and discussing here, and I hope I am not looked down upon if I cannot find it in me to support a republican presidency any longer.
I’m sorry, I’m an old fart / ex-hippy who hates war, and I cannot, and will not support a man who wants to keep us in Iraq indefinitely. I’d much rather not vote.
Being a product of the sixties, I have alot of gumption, and a loud voice. I will write to the DNC, Dean and others to express my pissed off opinion. But I will not vote McCain.
Good question goandersen. How? Also, I want to know that none of my personal info was sold out in a meeting last Thursday night.
I just signed the petition against Dean………and added a SPECIAL note………………..I am sure he will be very pleased. Thanks for the info on the petition.
To unsubscribe, go to contact us and it will be an option in the drop down box. There is a place to enter your comments also.
The bracelet sounds cool to me United.
goandersen,
You have to unsubscribe through an email they sent to you. One went out today about the speech. There is an unsubscribe link at the bottom.
would peppering college campuses be very effective? most of the college students where I live were quite easily herded like sheep.
I need several bracelets………..good show of support and it will mean so much to visibly show our support for Hillary.
It’s getting late out here in the cool, rainy PNW. So far I have goanderson in northern california, hill4me in Portland, susan in WA State, Mountain Song in Bellingham, WA and myself in WA State near Portland OR. Anyone else out there? I sent my “continue” card to Hillary with a dollar bill and the word “one of 18 million. The card had a beautiful line from Mya Angelou about continuing on one’s path. Lots of Thank yous were put on the inside. Night everyone. Sleep tight. Hillary is probably exhausted.
I am an African-American man who is very disappointed in the Democratic Party’s leadership. I am now a John McCain supporter, as a fall-back. I am looking for join a strong group that will work to show a collective displeasure at the Democratic Party’s leadership. I really don’t think they believe that a rift in the party has occurred, and I would like to prove them wrong.
I just tried to unsubscribe at HillaryClinton.com. They won’t let you. It give the message that the system is closed for maintenance. Yeah right! and there is a full moon right now!
Good nite to all of you……….I was going to turn in long ago but feel better chatting on here. Murphy you are doing a great job. I feel so much better having a site where we can work together for the same goal………get our Hillary in the White House.
United We Stand 4 Hillary:
Great letter!
I think the bracelet sounds great! I think we also need to set up a campaign of emails to all Super Delegates, DNC, Democrats at the state level. We need to flood their emails daily. A huge annoying email campaign gets a lot of attention.
margineau, sarah-h, and wsingl — welcome.
The kiddies just need a new shepherd, pa dem…
Sarah, I believe I am correct in saying Hillary said NOBAMAS name 13 times…..hmmmmm……interesting… as that is an unlucky number!!! Did any one count differently???
thx suzieforhill. good night.
I’m from PA.
McCain voted for Ruth Bader Ginsburg; and he will support judges who strictly follow the constitution. It is so silly to talk about the Supreme Court justices – no one can guaranty where they will end up over the years. Many have done a 180 degree turnaround. Take a look at the history of the Supreme Court, and note which President appointed each of them. You’d be surprised.
Also, contrary to BO’s popular belief (lies), we have no idea how long John McCain would maintain troupes in Iraq; and he’s certainly not going to send signal to the radicals ahead of time like BO. No candidate could safely bring the troupes home overnight.
Don’t let the Obamabots scare you. (Well, maybe they should scare you, but only because of who they support as a candidate.)
Did Murphy tell the new ones to read all the posts and objectives of the PUMAs? That would help them understand a little better, I think.
I like the bumper sticker:
McCain the real UNITER of the Democratic Party!
P. U. M. A.
Okay, we need a name and state breakdown. Let’s pass this paper [email] around, post our name and state, keep the states together:
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
Next State:
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
wsingl…………………the democratic party hasn’t seen anything yet…………….wait till there are over 18 million disgruntled people knocking on their doors. We are disgruntled and have been treated poorly. We aren’t going to take this anymore !!!!
A meeting scheduled for high noon—organize. Got it. BTW, I live near all of the University of Houston campuses.
It would make it more interesting and subliminal if she intended it.
I’ll have to watch it again and see.
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
Sarah_Conlon
O.k. No problem, call your county courthouse and check if you can write in Hillary. Be careful b/c a write in where it is prohibited could transfer to Obama.
wsingl
WELCOME WELCOME!
If you’ve got GROWL POWER, we’ll take it!
I will be voting for McCain and so will my entire family, friends and co-workers…and we are republicans who wanted Hillary. Our thinking is that McCain will only take on 4 years and Hillary will run again and win.
The idiotic Dem Party that went against their people will learn that the people are their voices and to allow them to say who they want for their president.
I am afraid that if the BO wins there will be no hope for Hillary to run again. If he loses then she will be a sure winner for the 2012 election.
Of course my real hope is that he will be so far down in the next couple of months that Hillary will be voted in. That is my HUGE dream!!!
Hillary all the way….I have not given up on her.
Okay, we need a name and state breakdown. Let’s pass this paper [email] around, post our name and state, keep the states together:
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
Next State:
Texas
Jeremy
genevieve: where in PA??
I love the black and gold bracelet idea….a number of people at work would comment on it and start a conversation.
Welcome back Shortermer:
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
Jeremy on 06.08.08 at 12:01 am
Thanks. TM is an Obamabot now for sure.
OREGON present here! Even participated in having one of those Oregon Parties you (SonyaD?) mentioned in my home. It was a LIVE hookup at a pre-described time where all guests, at each of the 88 parties throughout the state of Oregon, could hear Maggie speak.
If we did, I would improve on this concept by allowing time for questions at the end of the main speaker’s talk.
More details? Ask me.
It’s getting late, even out here right now, but will try to still answer tonite if anyone’s interested. If not, will be here tomorrow/Sunday.
Here’s the Mockup:
http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll172/MarylandPUMA/
thanks everyone with the “unsubscribe” task.
I understand we don’t know how long McCain will keep our troops there. I would think it’s longer than the democrats would .
I’m a Dem lifer like Hillary, and I’m sorry but there is no way I would vote McCain. The said himself he “economy is not his strenth”. Now how do you expect me to overlook that? I drive 40 minutes to work, I put $50 in gas in my car every 4 days. I’m not a happy camper, and if there is one thing I know, Hillary Clinton would have made the economy number one on her agenda, the Obama camp has a lot of Clinton era advisors and or god’s sake they won’t tax the hell out of me. McCain’s [read republicans] economic outlook is not going help my savings, or pocketbook one iota.
North Carolina Outer Banks anyone else in the area ????
AntiFish…Get with the program! LOL!
Copy the WHOLE thing.
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
delete this and add your name here, submit
Jeremy: shout out from….
Louisiana – DeepSouth
Drat – Try this one:
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll172/MarylandPUMA/BraceletMockup.jpg
United We Stand 4 Hillary -
I am also Maryland. Catonsville, Are you familiar?
Any other Marylanders here?
And I forgot to add: Thanks again everyone for being who you are and on this site!
My BP is coming down and I’ll sleep much better tonight.
Okay, we need a name and state breakdown. Let’s pass this paper [email] around, post our name and state, keep the states together:
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
Next State:
Texas
Jeremy
California:
goandersen
This from an Obamabot on the MSNBC message boards:
Rad43
I am willing to extend an Olive branch to Clinton supporters that are willing to recognize that McCain is not the answer. I only ask that the Obama bashing stop and that you consider voting for Obama for the good on the Nation. For Clinton supporters voting for McCain I give no quarter since I no longer consider you Democrats. You are now the enemy and will be treated as such.
Nice olive branch, uh?
Genevieve on 06.08.08 at 12:23 am
Yes write-ins are dangerous.
The only way to ensure an Obama defeat is to vote McCain.
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
Mississippi:
Mac
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
Next State:
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
Oh!Boy…now my name just vanished! I need to get with the program!
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
PA:
Genevieve(SouthEast PA)
delete this and add your name here, submit
Hey pa dem…………..where in Pa. I am originally from Pittsburgh.
Thank you for creating this site.
I read your mission statement and I support it.
I am a supporter of Hillary Clinton and for now plan to vote for her as my write in candidate. I live in Texas. I called the Secretary of State and was told I could write in my candidate, but when I asked how it would work with the electronic machines- they are calling me back to confirm how it will work. I will make sure my write in vote will go to Hillary.
Jeremy,
Maybe the HillaryClinton.com site went down due to so many unsubscribing!
shasta2001/ Florida
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
MICHIGAN:
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
MD:
United We Stand 4 Hillary (Eastern Shore)
Yardley
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
INDIANA:
LatinPuma, Indiana, Fishers
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
Oops, I didn’t follow orders and keep the states together. Sorry:)
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
Next State:
Texas
Jeremy
California:
goandersen
Louisiana:
DeepSouth
brent222 on 06.08.08 at 12:26 am
TM is an Obamabot now for sure.
And the sad part, for me, is that I donated severa times to links there that were matched to Hills. Hindsight is backward and I don’t mope, but I would have rather gave it all to Hillary, period!
cool…I’m in central PA. I would be willing to go to other parts of PA to hand out literature (as well as to some of the locals). Colleges are in summer session now anyway.
Sarah_Conlon, please know that I would have loved to be a hippie, I am of that era, but I got married so young and didn’t have fun like that. I like Old Farts – they tell it like it is. Sarah, could you find your way to AT LEAST register as an Independent. That is the single most effective way for us to slap the DNC/SD’s between the eyes.The idea is that we want to have the maximum effect with the surest and swiftest way – no option to stay home because that is in effect a vote for Obama – no option to vote Obama because you know why – no option to vote 3rd party because it would have no effect on what we are trying to accomplish – only option to vote McCain would be a 2fer, Obama would have to get one vote to nullify and another vote to gain a vote.Please give it some consideration – quite a lot of this is hard for most all of us, but we must keep our eyes on the prize.
I would like to sign your paper email but not sure how I have been posting at Hillary.com but lately it has been hard to get your post up
AntiFish…Get with the program! LOL!
Copy the WHOLE thing.
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
North Carolina, Outer Banks (no I am not wealthy )
Suzieforhill
I wouldn’t unsubscribe to Hillary’s site, folks. Remember, she is doing what she must right now while her campaign is suspended, thus the “Support BO” image. Also, I think the comment threads on her blog site just got overwhelmed this afternoon with an outpouring of support.
Nevertheless, anything could happen going forward, and the email list through her site is her way of communicating with us in the future if she needs to.
I would only unsubscribe if there were emails from BO coming in using her screen address, and I don’t see that happening.
Even her personal email to supporters today with a clip of the speech had a method for contributing to her campaign in the usual way, as opposed to contributing to his.
Hmmm. Murphy what’s permalink? did he(?) leave for the night?
goalucard4Hill
Yoga82 is already here. It’s me! I blog under two different names.
As an advocate for Hillary, I found the most persuasive comments came from the bloggers that stated their viewpoint from the heart without responding to the bait of the *61 bloggers. The posts from Silent Reader really touched my heart.
By writing here, I feel that I have an outlet for my anger at all the outrageous things that have been said about Hillary and her 18,000,000 supporters.
I blog on one particular magazine website ( it shall remain nameless) and the nasty and mean comments are still coming against Hillary and us. I plan to carefully select where I want to promote Hillary’s cause.
I know it’s late, but what is our next step? I can wait until Sunday or Monday for an answer. One suggestion, we should write the sponsors of MSNBC and CNN about the nasty remarks directed at Hillary. Let’s be pro-active and retake the initiative.
I am so happy to be conversing with all of you!
Sooooooooo Fired Up!
Here folks…PASS IT ON.
I’ve put in alpha order and tried to include everyone I’ve seen on previous lists. If anyone not included, please add when you input yours. Carry on…..
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
Next State?
Murphy, what are you gonna do when the site gets bombarded? You need help!
Should we contact whoever was running Hillary’s site? (Seriously!)
Hi All: This the activist formerly known as Mark at HillaryNowObamaLater.org. Now to be known as Mark at DemocratInExile.com.
I will be a D.I.E. for Reform. Sounds like I would die for reform, but maybe not. More likely, fight to the death for reform…. or at least throw a bunch of punches and push back hard.
I am disappointed that Senator Clinton did not throw down at least a bit of a challenge with respect to honoring us 18 million with a least a promise for active work at DNC primary reform so that we actually could come to a valid and definitive conclusion about the “will of the people.”
I wonder if Gore is thinking… “I can identify with that feeling, you know, losing the election but winning the popular vote….”
As you might note if you visit my morphed site at http://www.DemocratInExile.com, I am not so sure about Clinton as a V.P. I am not so sure that would be a sign of the DNC reforming its ways. My trial separation from the Democrats won’t end until they can assure me that they truly respect the will of the people and have reformed the primary process so that it can actually be determined.
Take care, Mark
Hey Deep South-back at you. Thanks Shasta, I will try again. OK guys, lets get this state this going without cutting out names. Let’s see what I can do…lol
AntiFish…Get with the program! LOL!
Copy the WHOLE thing.
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
North Carolina:
Suzieforhill
We’re all reponding at different times…antifish got dropped. Murphy can have a separate window with drop down tabs per state (alphabetically)-I know, I’m pushing it!
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
PA:
Genevieve(SouthEast PA)
delete this and add your name here, submit
MD:
United We Stand 4 Hillary (Eastern Shore)
Hi Yoga82
Glad you made it!
Add your name to the state list
Well…you skipped me. I’m the lone Louisiana person. I posted aboved, but things move fast here sometimes.
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
Louisiana:
DeepSouth
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
shasta2001, St.Petersburg
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
North Carolina, Outer Banks (no I am not wealthy )
Suzieforhill
Hillary has had that site a long time I have been on it for years I never unsubscribe from it it will take you to her Senate site when she isn’t running for office
I live here in NW Pa- Crawford County- just south of Erie. This area has always gone Rep. We have been making great strides here, registered lots of Dems this year- Hillary kicked the selected one’s ass from one end of the county to the other.
Make no mistake about it- the DNC just blew it’s chance to turn this county blue.
I am debating- do I paint a big giant sign with PUMA on it or get a Dems for McCain erected in the front yard???
I am thinking I should hold off on the McCain sign until the convention. But a HUGE PUMA sign I would really like to have that right NOW!
(Being as how Santa missed my house last night and I did not get one of the Unity Ponies that were distributed.) (Thanks anyway Santa, I have two horses, i don’t need anymore manure.)
Hill4me on 06.08.08 at 12:38 am Here folks…PASS IT ON.
I’ve put in alpha order and tried to include everyone I’ve seen on previous lists. If anyone not included, please add when you input yours. Carry on…..
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
North Carolina:
suzieforhill
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
Next State:
Texas
Jeremy
California:
goandersen
Louisiana:
DeepSouth
Mississippi:
Mac
Oh- congratulations PUMAs our new party got a mention in the Boston Globe!
http://tinyurl.com/6oxg7f
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
TXPuma
Next State?
sorry guys I am going to bed it is 12:44am here and I can’t even add my name to a list without making a mistake. Nite to all of you
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
MD:
United We Stand 4 Hillary (Eastern Shore)
MsBinMD
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
Next State:
Texas
Jeremy
California:
goandersen
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
Mississippi:
Mac
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
PA:
Genevieve(SouthEast PA)
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
INDIANA:
LatinPuma, Indiana, Fishers
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
INDIANA:
LatinPuma, Indiana, Fishers
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
Next State:
Texas
Jeremy
California:
goandersen
Louisiana:
DeepSouth
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
North Carolina, Outer Banks (no I am not wealthy )
Suzieforhill
Shortermer – I married in 1970 and had my first in 74′.
I see the prize, I do, but as Dem I find it very, very difficult to vote Republican. I blame them almost exclusively for a lot of the Bullsh*t in the last decade. I haven’t felt comfortable voting since Bill left office.
I’m sorry but there are so many downsides to voting with the GOP that I think I will most likely stay home. My husband is on the fence, we have relatives in Iraq and he wants them home quick. As do I, and McCain is not going to be bringing them home as fast as we’d like – and I’m sure a lot of other’s wouldn’t like as well.
I don’t mind registering as an Independant. And I love your verve and strength!
I know that that means but I want to heal this party, not fracture it further. I wish I saw a different way.
Hi everyone
PaDem-cool, whereabout?
I think I grabbed everyone, now delete repeats and organize. And doing this on a Saturday Night! Only for Hillary!
Deep South,
Where in Louisiana are you located? I’m on the Ms. Gulf Coast, home of Katrina.
ohkie dokie folks. It’s 1 AM here and my daughter will kill me if I don’t get up early so she can get in the pool. (100+ here tomorrow)
Please leave me some feedback on the bracelets so I can get them made, shipped, and start selling them.
6 weeks is not a lot of time…….
{hugs to all}
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
PaDem (Central PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
Louisiana:
DeepSouth
MURPHY or Jeremy: Is there any kind of listing that could be setup as part of the actual site where we could ADD our Signature/Names under listed States? Would be much more efficient in not leaving anyone out of our loop or left out–which is too easily what happens when cut/pasted within these emails.
I got dropped off. Don’t ya’ll like antifish?
Hill4me on 06.08.08 at 12:38 am Here folks…PASS IT ON.
I’ve put in alpha order and tried to include everyone I’ve seen on previous lists. If anyone not included, please add when you input yours. Carry on…..
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
North Carolina:
suzieforhill
Please keep the entire list in tact when you are adding your name and state……….names seem to keep dropping off. Thanks.
When the list seems to be somewhat complete, I wonder if Murphy can send us each other’s email in our state, or is there a better way to do it. I know, everybody go to yahoogmail and get a disposible address with puma in the edress. That way we can post our emails here…?
Genevieve thanks for adding those last names!
someone add me to Ga ok
DeepSouth: You have one heck of an energized Governor there! FoxNews keeps pusing him to take on VP for McCain. Is everything he says on tv true-the new schools, investments,rebuilding, etc? He’s only 35 y/o!
Anyway, back to the list.
I’m very leery of any request to the CURRENT DNC to reform anything! They would just use it as an excuse to distort the process further in the direction Brazile and others have been taking it. They would STRENGTHEN the caucus states, weaken or get rid of the superdelegates, create the rule they have been claiming, ie that supers should just endorse the lead in pledged delegates, diss the popular vote even more….
Remember what happened in 2000? With the excuse of ‘reforming’ the hanging chad mess in Florida, the GOP brought in new machines that didn’t allow any paper trail or recounts at all!
Imo this is the most important reason for McCain in November — a win for Obama would put him and his faction in tighter control of the DNC, perhaps permanently.
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
PaDem (Central PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
Louisiana:
DeepSouth
Mac
Me too Mac. I live in Slidell. We caught the Western eyewall of the storm. I lost everything.
I had family in Bay St. Louis and they had nothing left but slabs.
Hope you did better!
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
kids1627
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
PaDem (Central PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
Louisiana:
DeepSouth
Mac
Getting better antifish
Short Termer: Isn’t it google that you can get the gmail?
MURPHY or Jeremy: Is there any kind of listing that could be setup as part of the actual site where we could ADD our Signature/Names under listed States? Would be much more efficient in not leaving anyone out of our loop or left out–which is too easily what happens when cut/pasted within these emails.
Open a free account at LiveJournal and set up a blog. Give all of your group the password so any of you can log in and Edit the main entry.
That LJ blog will take threaded comments too so you won’t miss any comments that might get lost among all the traffic here, or when a new thread goes up here.
I will try this againt, I was bumped.
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
shasta2001, St.Petersburg
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
North Carolina:
suzieforhill
Hill4me:
Only a little more longer it’s 1:00 AM. Can you carry the torch in like 15min?
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
kids1627
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
PaDem (Central PA)
delete this and add your name here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
Louisiana:
DeepSouth
Turndownobama
I agree, they are in there changing things as we speak. I don’t trust it. We have to stop this guy!
I’d kind of like to see “PUMA” somewhere on the bracelet too…if I was looking at the most recent mockup–it had “hillary clinton the people’s choice”.
Genevieve–If you put an X over PA, I live at the spot where the X crosses in the middle. Centre County. We have lots of hunters out here.
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifish
Kids1627
North Carolina, Outer Banks (no I am not wealthy )
Suzieforhill
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
PaDem (Central PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
Louisiana:
DeepSouth
Mac
CALIFORNIA:
goandersen
Hi to some of my friends from the Hillary site.
I am so sad. I went over there and have alerted some who are asking where everyone is- I tried to post that we are over here–but it won’t post. I’ll check again.
They simply have no shame. The Obama bloggers have taken over the site and are saying that they are joining Hillary in support of Obama. Shameless. I think a candidate’s supporters say a lot about a candidate.
And I am sorry to say this–but the Obama bloggers are just as rude and strange as right wing bloggers. Like the mirror image. I don’t know if they know what their candidate even stands for.
It feels as if your house has been taken over by intruders over there. So sad. I know the webmasters and moderators must be so sad as well- unless Jr. has his people taking over the blog? I just don’t know… I guess it’s their house now. Since the site endorses Jr. now. Oh–that’s my name for him now- “Jr.” as in the Junior Senator of Illinois. I don’t even want to type his name- I’m so mad and sad about this whole thing. So I will call him Jr.
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
kids1627
delete this and add your name here, submit
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
North Carolina:
suzieforhill
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
PaDem (Central PA)
delete this and add yourn ame here, submit
TEXAS:
Jeremy
Louisiana:
DeepSouth
Mac
Hi all, I have been watching this site for a little while and I wanted to post. I have never been really into politics but this year has changed me. I live in MN so this was the first time I went to the caucus and voted for Hillary. I have always voted dem. but am now an independent. I will vote McCain. The end justifies the means. I will do this because I am a loyal Hillary supporter. This is one vote Noboma will not be getting. Stay strong and don’t drink the kool-aid.
I was helping out a friend in GA. This is not the entire list. Need a better strategy with this.
Genevieve
Jindal is our knight in shining armor. He is changing everything!!! I can’t tell you how excited we all are about him. He is so young and so vibrant. He will not be a VP for McCain because he has pledged himself to clean out Lousiana. He will not desert us!
This young man is unbelievable! He has appointed an ethics committee that is going to bring down many politicians in this state. He was there in the depths of crap when Katrina hit….not in some mansion talking, but there in the garbage with the people, and they won’t forget it.
Remember his name…Bobby Jindal. He gets his hands dirty and isn’t afraid of any bigwigs or the “good ole boys” network.
He won’t leave us. We need him. He is 100 times the man that Obama could ever hope to be. Keep your eye on him!!!
I agree with turndownobama. We must oust the current leadership at the DNC. The first step to doing that is to defeat Obama. If he loses, the moneyed supporters will demand the removal of the current DNC hierarchy. The only way to defeat Obama is to vote for McCain. Staying home does not register a protest vote. Voting for a fringe candidate is fruitless as well. All that does is dilute the vote.
Deep South: I used to live in Mandeville and loved it. We rode out the hurricane and stayed in our home. Unbelievable! I will never do that again. Major damage to our home and our daughter and grandson lost their home and all content all that was left was the slab. The worst thing I have ever been through. I cried for months.
Eward – glad that its you – and Evy – or you our Evy from the Hillary site that we so dearly love – Evy Galen – if so I am so glad that you are here as well.
Out of here for tonight – can not wait until tomorrow to get active again – Kentucky here.
It would be best if people just said:
Add me to the list
and we take turns updating the list because of the timing with moderating the blogs. Given time zones someone could pick up the ball.
goanderson was dropped when I fixed suzieforhill
MN for Hillary — welcome.
deepsouth — that’s great to hear about Jidal. If you tell me he supported Hillary I’ll be even happier! or is he a republican? oops.
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T.
Jody
Shasta 2001
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae
Sonya D.
Jade in GA
antifish
delete this and add your name here, submit
INDIANA:
LatinPuma, Indiana, Fishers
MISSISSIPPI:
Mac
TEXAS:
Jeremy
CALIFORNIA:
goandersen
EWard aka yoga82
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
MD:
United We Stand 4 Hillary (Eastern Shore)
NORTH CAROLINA:
Suzieforhill
LOUISIANA:
Deep South
delete this and add your name here, submit
One more rant and then I am calling it a day. Think I can sleep tonight!
I have read the News Articles linked to two newspapers on this site today and it just gripes my tush that they think this is all about a feminist movement.
What does it take to get the message across that this is about OB not being fit to serve this country and the unfairness of DNC in handing him the nomination on a unearned silver platter.!!! So frustrating
Good night all.
If it were all about a female in office then we wouldn’t be voting for McCain, as is the case for many of us, if Hillary (or we) cant
**Get this fixed** – didn’t finish my message. Yea, I’m tired.
DeepSouth-
That’s it!Bobby Jindal, What can I say it’s 1:00 AM.
I’m so happy for you.
PMM: Thanks for the Boston Globe link. Here it is again in case anyone missed it: http://tinyurl.com/6oxg7f
I am concerned that the PUMA group is being written off in this article as a purely feminist response to Hillary’s “loss.” While sexism was certainly at work here, I expected it, and that is not my primary reason for joining the PUMAs. I am mostly appalled at the DNC’s party-before-country antics. Can we emphasis more strongly on the homepage that this is an inclusive group? I’d hate to see us get type-cast in future publicity. (Sorry, Murphy–I know you are swamped with requests!)
Also, as much as I love the true PUMA acronym, perhaps we should try to use the tamer one so that we’re not branded as some sort of irrational mob. It’s harder to ignore a positive message.
The hillaryclinton.blog is back up with a new thread about the speech. Normita just posted on there wondering where people are. I posted that she should sign up here!
Hey anderson – Don’t unsubscribe yet from the official site. Hillary did what she had to do today – she had no choice unfortunately. Her campaign also probably had no choice in putting up the signup for BO. That’s politics I guess.
Hey! Murphy-you’re back!
Did you chech my message about the list and having a separate window?
you all do know that Nunn and Hermans sit on the board at GE who onw msnbc and nbc and hermans just wanted to get home and be done with the RNB last sat.
LOL…Murph. He is Republican, but he is also a man of the people. I don’t see him giving in to any BS.
During Katrina when our people were dying in the streets he was there with them and suffereing with them…not sitting in some air conditioned hotel talking to press.
I can tell you that he wasn’t happy with Bush or anyone else. He is the one that came up with the idea that we will cut off our port if we don’t get a higher percentage of oil revenue (we are the lowest of all the gulf states).
He doesn’t give a flying f*** about any individual. He cares about our state and our people and our future. I can really see him going any way that he thinks will be best for our state.
He really is a man of the people and a man for his state.
I ment GE owns typo
Keep it going, please. I just got a new puma edress, you can get one,too. It is easy and free:
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL,shorttermerpuma@gmail.com
Susy T.
Jody
Shasta 2001
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae
Sonya D.
Jade in GA
antifish
delete this and add your name here, submit
INDIANA:
LatinPuma, Indiana, Fishers
MISSISSIPPI:
Mac
TEXAS:
Jeremy
CALIFORNIA:
goandersen
EWard aka yoga82
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
MD:
United We Stand 4 Hillary (Eastern Shore)
NORTH CAROLINA:
Suzieforhill
LOUISIANA:
Deep South
delete this and add your name here, submit
Yes, MsBinMD! Didn’t see your message before posting.
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T.
Jody
Shasta 2001
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae
Sonya D.
Jade in GA
antifish
delete this and add your name here, submit
INDIANA:
LatinPuma, Indiana, Fishers
MISSISSIPPI:
Mac
TEXAS:
Jeremy
Evy
CALIFORNIA:
goandersen
EWard aka yoga82
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
MD:
United We Stand 4 Hillary (Eastern Shore)
NORTH CAROLINA:
Suzieforhill
LOUISIANA:
Deep South
delete this and add your name here, submit
Forget what I said just before! hahah The blog seems to be down again – I wasn’t paying attention to the time imprints. Comments for that new blog stopped at about 11:05 PM after only like 20 minutes.
Somehow kids1627 got removed:
Keep it going, please. I just got a new puma edress, you can get one,too. It is easy and free:
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL,shorttermerpuma@gmail.com
Susy T.
Jody
Shasta 2001
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae
Sonya D.
Jade in GA
antifish
kids1627
delete this and add your name here, submit
INDIANA:
LatinPuma, Indiana, Fishers
MISSISSIPPI:
Mac
TEXAS:
Jeremy
CALIFORNIA:
goandersen
EWard aka yoga82
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
MD:
United We Stand 4 Hillary (Eastern Shore)
NORTH CAROLINA:
Suzieforhill
LOUISIANA:
Deep South
delete this and add your name here, submit
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Hello everyone! I just joined PUMA today – I had a hard time leaving Hillary’s website but it is being taken over by “you know you” folks more and more. So I’m glad to find PUMA and plan on putting down roots here and help in any way that I can. To Murphy, terrific job getting this site up so fast and it is so professional. I am sure that Hillary would be proud!
EVY, are you Evy Galen? Glad to see you made it here. I had the same problems over there too. I thought Gay Guy blogged here, but now I’m not sure. Has anyone seen him today? He might still be on Hillary’s site since his blogs seemed to continue posting.
Mac quote:
“Deep South: I used to live in Mandeville and loved it. We rode out the hurricane and stayed in our home. Unbelievable! I will never do that again. Major damage to our home and our daughter and grandson lost their home and all content all that was left was the slab. The worst thing I have ever been through. I cried for months.”
Mac….I’m so sorry to hear that. I know how horrible that is. We took 5.5 feet of water and lost everything. My father had just retired and took 6 feet of water. It’s so sad. St. Tammany is really moving fast though and we are all getting thru it. I hate driving thru New Orleans East…it looks like a ghost town. It makes me want to cry.
Please RE-ADD me in:
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
Hi!
I AM STAUNCH HRC SUPPORTER! I ALWAYS READ ALL THE BLOGS ON HER WEBSITE… TRIED TO POST BUT NEVER GOT THROUGH… NOW I AM HERE AND HOPE TO START BLOGGING. I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE BHO.
BY-NABOO
Hill4me
i’m the PNW too–Oregon–on the central coast
Murphy:
It would help if the list was at the right of the “Leave a Comment” space.
Genevieve, I’m always here
just busy keeping things rolling and getting ready. I did see your post about drop-downs. Improving site features is definitely on the priority list.
deepsouth — Jindal sounds like a great leader. I dont know much about him, as you can see. I’ll keep my eye out.
Just for fun and bc it’s late, I’m going to let a comment from “steve” through the troll-filter that is typical of hundreds of ones you dont see. Please dont respond to him. It is a comment rife with sexism, condescension, and disdain. hmm, it must be from an Obama troll!
Sorry, it IS late.
Dear Moderator,
Later can the option to reply to comments be added?
Thank you,
Evy
Hi all. I am so upset with Howard Dean and Reid. I got a letter from Howard Dean on Thursday asking me to put my support behind Obama and to also donate. Well i told him off fast. Then Friday i got a letter from Reid saying the same. Well you can immagine how angry i was. I told him off too.Well to top it off i got a letter today from Dean stating now that Obama is the nominee and Hillary is supporting him we must unify and i should support Obama. Of course asked for a donation.Well i was at my ends with all of this. I wrote a letter to end all letters to Dean today. I will also call his office monday…202-863-8000 and you wouldn’t want to be a fly on the wall because i am angry and it will not be a nice conversation.Also I was laughing at all the news media today saying that 95% of us will stand behind Obama. Ya right in a pigs eye.Not me. I want my Gal Hillary .
http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/75644432/5806494
I made a PUMA userpic for livejournal.
Pennsylvanian4Hill
NORMITA
LILBIT
ROSA NUNEZ
GAL GAL
GAY GUY
I AM MISSING MORE PEOPLE I KNOW I AM…
ALL THE BLOGGERS FROM HILLARYCLINTON.COM
I HAVE ALWAYS READ ALLLLLLLL YOUR POSTS PLEASE INCLUDE ME FROM NOW ON PLEASE!
I mean individual comments.
Oops, I meant “emphasize”… Spelling is the first to go with fatigue.
Hey ShortTermer-Left out Kid1627 for GA.
kids1627 on 06.08.08 at 12:36 am I would like to sign your paper email but not sure how I have been posting at Hillary.com but lately it has been hard to get your post up.
Let’s help them out.
LOL….Murph, bring Steve on!
Thanks ShortTermer, you beat me to it. Adding Kid from GA
cconnell: oh thankgod, I’m so glad to finally see a fellow Oregonian on this site. So are you somewhere between Lincoln City and Florence? Make sure you ADD your name to our LIST.
ShorterMer:
PaDem (Central PA) was dropped & check back in pevious blogs-many are adding names like I asked next to their blog and we need to add to the list- but at least this way names are not being dropped.
Can you keep a list in Word? I’m about to pass out. Long day.
Had fun tonight! Thanks to all PUMAs (oh. btw I agree let keep the REAL name out there)
**Good night!
Hillary,
I know you are doing what the Party wants but NOT yours. I can see through your eyes how painful your are suffering.
I will vote for you in 2012, but for 2008, I will go for McCain.
I am also from Nevada and you can bet your home we are Hillary people here. I am in Las Vegas and i would love to go to Denver and throw a shoe at Obama. We women throw shoes sometimes. I love this site and i vent but i cried today listening to Hillary have to say she would support that snake. I will only vote for Hillary and if i have no choice then it will be Mccain the lessor of the two evils.
Welcome ALL my fellow Hillary supporters from HRC.COM!
Tonight I wrote the most agonizing letter in my entire adult life, a letter for Hillary that I’ll mail on Monday with a thank you card and $1.00. My letter to her is handwritten, I also mention in my letter PUMA PAC, we Hillary supporters will now take her fight to reform DNC, it doesn’t matter how long it would take but we’ll keep fighting on.
I also mention in my letter she and I must part ways when it comes to NONAME, I explain in my letter I cannot and will not vote for him as I find him despicable, disrespectful and untrustworthy. When he disrespected her with his snide remarks, he did it to all of us. I never use the name of her opponent for party nomination, I’ve baptized him NONAME. I’d be voting for McCain in general election if she’s not the nominee after Denver Convention, he is the next best thing in my own opinion. McCain is a moderate Republican.
I’m waiting for Murphy to update us what is our next move, it is going to cost money when we fight giants, this is like David and Goliath. We need to donate whatever we can afford, we are now fighting for future of our country, future Americans. We’re not doing this for us anymore, this is bigger than Hillary. Hillary have shown us, real change must come from us, only us can impliment that change by working together for a common cause. This is OUR cause, this is our CRUSADE. Buckle up folks!
SandiPuma….good for you!!! You did all the right things.
Thru this site we will hopefully be able to organzie with other major Hillary sites and make a stand!
Welcome!!
Good to be here, the Hillary village.
CNN already showed this web site yesterday. 18 million of us are stronger than ever. Today Hillary’s speech encouraged us, WE HAVE HOPE. As long as 18 million of us united, anything is possible.
Murphy…I’m trying to go to bed. Put Steve on!
Murph….I hope you have a brilliant Tech who can help you bypass names like mine, cuz you know I’m so great..ha ha or cuz you know I’m not a site abuser or something like that to alleviate your having to constantly look at every single post!
I hope at least 3 million go to Denver to march for Hillary. I would give my new false teeth to go. I live alone and am not much to live on so i guess my heart will be there for Hillary.
Haha! I love the name of this thread……. and we will take it from here!
Genevieve I too am waiting for Steve. I want to go to bed, but I want to see what he’s got. BRING IT ON!!!
Genevieve, sorry — he posted in a lower thread a few minutes ago.
Here’s his comment. It’s mild compared to most of the others, but oh so typically condescending.
“I decided a year ago to enthusiastically support whoever won the Dem. Party nomination. I heartily agree that media portrayals of Hillary have been often sexist and unfair. The party’s primary process may well be flawed with its emphasis upon caucusses. However, is trying to get McCain elected the way to address these concerns?
Wasn’t the primary process known to everyone well before it started?
Personally, I’d rather see Obama, Hillary, Richardson, Edwards or anyone the Dems put up over a man who will continue to eviscerate our civil rights, plunge us into and keep us in unnecessary wars and not fight for ANY of the values that Dems hold dear.
Use this PAC to fight sexism in the media. Use it to work for change in process with in the party. I’d ask that you NOT use it to try to hand the election to McBush.”
Yes, Murphy, where is that rascal, Steve?
Sandi…you never know. We can all go and pitch tents. If we can just get organized and find out who can drive and who is going where and how much roon they have, etc…..maybe you can go. I wish and hope that we can find a way to get this together.
Well, if AOL’s straw poll is any clue, we don’t have to work very hard to get McCain elected (if Clinton isn’t the nominee). When I voted a few minutes ago, only about 5 states were blue in a McCain/Obama matchup.
Murphy,
Very pretentious of Steve to tell you what you should use your PAC for. Oh well, at least he admitted to the sexism and the unfairness of the caucuses. That’s more than you can get out most Obamabots.
Thank you DeepSouth. I love my Hillary. She was treated aweful. This was such a corrupt race and so bias and sexist. My heart has been broken.
Sounds like a “Steve.”…oh and no offense to real intelligent people with the name of Steve. Going to get my fix of Sanford and Sons. Does a brain good to watch intelligent humor.
I can’t believe how the Party is spinning this. Whatever happens they will blame Hillary.
From an article on CNN’s site:
“Robert Zimmerman, a superdelegate who supports Clinton, said Clinton’s next moves will probably include working to make sure her 17 million-plus voters throw their support to Obama.
“Ultimately, Hillary Clinton is going to be judged — whether she runs for vice president or not — by how successfully she can help bring her coalition to the Democratic nominee,” he said.”
antifish, his admittance (oh thank you Steve for admitting!) of sexism and unfairness is what we experts in the rhetorical field call the old Buttering Up!
they’re sly, I tells ya, they’re sly!
Thanks Murph…Steve is a dork. My daughter recently informed me that a dork is actually a whale penis…lol.
Steve can know that I can bank on the fact that McCain, unlike Bush, is a moderate. He is also for toning down the war, but at a pace that is fitting…much like Hillary perscribed.
McCain is no Edwards or Obama…McCain is a Patriot and loves his country. Nobody can say that isn’t true. He is experienced in all levels of government and much of his experience has been….hands on.
I admire and respect him. I chose Hillary over him only because she had the freedom of producing a different way of achieving goals. She also had some new policies in mind that I believed in.
Obama is a puppet….a tiny little man with a huge ego, much like Napolean, and we all know where he ended up.
If no Hillary I say McCain 2008 and Hillary 2012
Everytime Hillary was bashed i felt bashed. Everytime they knocked her down they knocked me down. Hillary allways faught strong for each and everyone of us. The strength Of all of us put together. There is no one like her in the world. Hillary is a born leader.
Thx. Murphy!
Go PUMAs.
Super late here folks, time to turn in.
Please read Anglachel’s post from earlier today. It is fabulous. http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/
She chose the same photo of Hillary for her previous post on today’s events as I did — I feel honored!
Sunday is a new day!
I saw a post on Daily Kos today…begging us Hillstars to join with them. All of a sudden Hillary is Brilliant and Noble. It feels so good to loved and welcomed back to the fold…..NOT! The analogy of going back to an abuser rings so true here. The Obamabots burned their bridges and their chances of a victory by savaging Hillary with their words and deeds. Yes she is Brilliant and she is Noble. But don’t be fooled by their olive branches. It’s just a ploy.
I visited McCains website and read his plan for fighting global warming. It’s modeled after the EU approach which has had some success. He truly is the better choice this fall.
I came here feeling a bit tired, and it is very late in Georgia. But watching the paper e-mail go ’round and ’round with names vanishing and reappearing has me chuckling out loud. I’m so glad you added me in the beginning, Jeremy.
Thank you for this gathering place/action center, Murphy. I like the enthusiasm here. Let’s go with the momentem!
Good Night everyone…see ya later gator…yeah, its a southern thing….
I don’t think Steve is completely off-base re McCain concerns. Personally, I’d rather sit out the election–McCain will win with or without me. The DNC knows this and is banking on retaining “new” Dems and generating lots of $ for the party. Those goals are getting priority over actually winning back the White House in November.
yeh, it’s so transparently a butterin’-up job so his blog would just slip on through.
Good job Murphy!
Yeah, Murphy, I think they got their “unity” script from headquarters and are out in full force spreading their propaganda. After all, we are “uneducated”, so we should all drink the koolaid, hold hands and sing Kumbaya:)
Also earlier Fox News panel said oh he dosn’t need her. He will still get 95% of Hillary’s supporters and i yelled at the TV ya right over my dead body. These news people make me sick.
I’m hittin’ the hay, myself. Nite all:)
Good Night Deep
BEWARE: If you are currently registered on http://www.hillaryclinton.com you cannot remove your profile or email. Also when you attempt to unsubscribe via an email they have sent to you, you are given a message that they system in down due to maintenance. I AM INFURIATED! My email address is locked in there. I just wanted to pass this information along.
Oh, one last thing. I am a fan of late night TVLand re-runs. They are so cheesy! Just saw they are adding Hogan’s Heros. “I KNOW NUTHINNNGGGG.”
Thanks a million Murphy…night all!
I like it here to. Nice people and our cause is so great. I have vented a few times about the DNC but couldn’t help it. God Bless everyone here and all thier great work for Hillary
Jeremy,
Well, I guess she will be able to contact us later.
I have the direct emails of all the DNC Rules Committee Members. I found them on a site someone had linked. I emailed the DNC Rules Committee before and after their ruling. All the emails went through except one and I got one response from one member who said she was a Hillary Delegate. Does everyone have this list?
If not, should I post or should I email them to the website email so that it can be emailed to the members to avoid Jr.’s trolls getting their hands on it?
Jeremy, better put a good spaminator on your email.
thanks for the warning.
Really. Well they have millions of our e-mail addresses. Well if snake obama gets mine he can choke on it.
Ok night all and God Bless you
Our family has re-registered as Nonpartisans (independent) and we are supporting McCain, unless of course, Hillary gets the nomination after all. We have tried to unsubscribe from the DNC but still keep getting their stupid e-mails for donations (“Unity” came today). I had an interesting e-mail exchange with Donna Brazile – she definitely does not get it that we are leaving the undemocratic party in droves! She was not nice in her note to me. We are in Nevada but no note from Harry Reid (our dear Senator – nickname is Pinky), I wonder why.
Sandipuma: we are the Las Vegas area too. We are thinking of going to Denver if an organized protest can be put together and it would help Hillary. So you might be able to come with us. Hotel rooms may be a big problem though as the regular convention folks will have snapped up most of what is available!
Hey everyone. First time poster, longtime fan. (I never could get one up on the Hill page, don’t know why).
Since you brought up trying to “unsubscribe”, I tried to unsubscribe to the DNC email and have been waiting about 3 hours now for a 4 digit code to allow me too, that was suppose to be sent to my email.
Anybody else have this problem?
Think maybe there’s a backlog or something as of late?
Go Pumas ! Make history.
Deal with the DNC as you must but please have the energy to slay sexism in Media as well. Every single slur uttered against Sen. Hillary Clinton felt like a personal stab against me and I am sure I am not the only non-American affected by the despicable treatment of Sen. Clinton by the morally bereft pundits, columnists and talking heads in CNN and other networks. Perhaps Puma can transcend its goals beyond those already stated in Puma’s website to include the fight to eradicate sexism in Media.
I know it is a huge task to fight the Goliaths of Mainstream Media with global reach but with concerted effort among everyone who had been offended by them, I am positive the war can be won.
Viewership and readership mean a lot to journalists and talk show hosts and columnists. The more people tuning in to their station, or opening the pages of their newspapers or magazines, the more revenue they can get from advertisers. That is why there is a mad contest going on in Media and the Internet on who can suck in the most viewers and readers. Sleeze and controversy draw in a lot of people. How many magazines get bought when Britney Spears or Paris Hilton is on the cover? And have you taken note of how many viewers voted in American Idol ? Wow. click, click, click – everyone who voted by text spent at least 10 cents to the revenue of mobile phone providers. You can see the meter in practically every website you visit – crowing that you are the millionth visitor. These numbers are important to advertisers.
And that my dear friends was how Sen. Hillary Clinton got bashed in the Internet too. Links with her name on it, got read. And those links always have cookies with all kinds of advertisement for whatever. The more angry you get, the more times you visit the site to try to fight off the meanness of the blogger. How many Clinton friendly people are able to get in on any of those websites hostile to Sen. Clinton? Very few I guess. I tried a number of times to send my message of protests against the atmosphere of hatred being sown by some Clinton bashers but I could never get any of my posts published but I am pretty sure my attempts is now part of their bragging rights to thousands of visitors to their site.
I have taken my small steps. I have cancelled my subscription to Time and Newsweek. I do not watch CNN nor MSNBC anymore. I told my husband that if I catch him watching CNN, he can leave my bed.
I have already deleted from my computer links to any of the websites which offended my sense of fairness. Although I must confess that I instinctively clicked on the link you had suggested (Mad as Hell) and my anger was stoked again. Rats !! But from now on, I shall not read nor bother to open any links other than those declared by PUMA as safe and friendly. No trolls please.
Moreover, I am letting advertisers know that I am boycotting any product or service advertised in any of those magazines, newspapers, television and/or radio stations who had and are still publishing or airing materials written by any of the talking heads or pundits or talk show hosts guilty of unconscionable bias against and disrespect for Sen Clinton. Any business who continue to advertise in any of the above Media Outlets declared offensive by PUMA shall risk losing my business.
I humbly submit my proposal to bring this drive against sexism in Media globally,
If we all (worldwide) jumped together can we create an earthquake? Maybe not, but we’ll never know unless we try.
No viewers, no advertisers, no revenue.
More power to PUMA. I’d like to contribute but being non-American, I do not know if that is legal.
Thank you.
To all the ObamaBots who try to bully people on this site: Take your hypocritical, offensive rants elsewhere. We are not beholden to you or anyone else. Many of us feel that the Democratic Party has been hijacked. I can no longer support a Party that disenfranchised so many voters.
Especially Florida and Michigan.
The Party I once supported used to stand against these types of practices.
No longer.
Further, in an effort to please one small faction of the Party, for selfish, power hungry motives, they have twisted the rules and anointed a nominee that cannot possibly win in November.
All in some perverse effort to ‘make history’.
We will be heard and we will not be taken for granted.
Just watch…
RyanMan
Keep it going. I just got a new puma edress, you can get one,too. Add your name, location, and email, but try not to delete anyone. Gmail is easy and free:
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL,shorttermerpuma@gmail.com
Susy T.
Jody
Shasta 2001
GEORGIA:
drae
Sonya D.
Jade in GA
antifish
kids1627
INDIANA:
LatinPuma, Indiana, Fishers
MISSISSIPPI:
Mac
TEXAS:
Jeremy
CALIFORNIA:
goandersen
EWard aka yoga82
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
MD:
United We Stand 4 Hillary (Eastern Shore)
NORTH CAROLINA:
Suzieforhill
LOUISIANA:
Deep South
New here from HRC website. So sad to see it go down, away from the light. I was able to unsubscribe from HRC this morning. I’m sure what’s happening is that the Obama campaign is taking over part of, or maybe the whole, site. Probably tomorrow you will be able to unsubscribe.
I do believe the website where you can pull up your state and lobby superdelegates is http://www.lobbydelegates.com You pay $5 to fax and its free to email. They were updating as of last night, when I wrote all the superdelegates in my state.
Fight on!!
ive joined this site. i cannot believe what has happened. i cant sleepetc.. what will happen to america if she is not president? i hope puma can help take back our party asap and look forard to its plans on how to do this….
“The closest match in values is the Libertarian Party.”
Nice try. The FREEPERS are Libertarian…you can keep it. Please let’s not allow the Ron Paul cult to infiltrate here!!!
Also, please, no antisemitic felon LaRouche cult followers either, even tho they claim to be “Democrats.”
In fact, our strategy should be tailored state by state. For instance, with the great news that John Kerry now has a primary challenger, we in Massachusetts should remain Dems in order to vote Kerry out! I was trying to decide if I was going to switch to “unenrolled” or “independent” but I’m excited to remain Dem for the opportunity to vote against Kerry, who ganged up on Hillary with the other big shots, despite the will of the Massachusetts voters! Ed O’Reilly looks like a great progressive choice.
I agree with turndownobama. We must oust the current leadership at the DNC. The first step to doing that is to defeat Obama. If he loses, the moneyed supporters will demand the removal of the current DNC hierarchy.
Is that really how it works?
Margenau on 06.08.08 at 1:53 am
McCain will not win with or without you. We need you to vote for McCain to ensure Odrama does not get the WH.
sandipuma on 06.08.08 at 1:55 am
I don’t watch MSM any longer. All they do is spew hatred. and misinformation.
Don’t believe a word they say : – )
YRM, thanks so much for that link to the City Edition pushback on the media interference in our primary!
Anyone who missed it, it’s a must to check out!
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/MediaPushbackCampaign.html
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
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GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
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MICHIGAN:
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OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
Hillgirl (Southeast PA)
TEXAS:
Jeremy
Next State?
Somehow kids1627 got removed:
Keep it going, please. I just got a new puma edress, you can get one,too. It is easy and free:
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL,shorttermerpuma@gmail.com
Susy T.
Jody
Shasta 2001
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae
Sonya D.
Jade in GA
antifish
kids1627
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INDIANA:
LatinPuma, Indiana, Fishers
MISSISSIPPI:
Mac
TEXAS:
Jeremy
CALIFORNIA:
goandersen
EWard aka yoga82
gina613
Jenn4Hill
druark
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
MD:
United We Stand 4 Hillary (Eastern Shore)
NORTH CAROLINA:
Suzieforhill
LOUISIANA:
Deep South
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I will vote McCain. dont do a write in. A vote for JMC is a vote against Obama
We need to recruit more people to come to this site. Can everyone try to get 10 people to join today?
If we can get more people involved and more donations than we can run ads, mailers, radio spots and commercials. I know there are a lot of people out there that would fight for Hillary, but just feel like they don’t know how.
I am sure if we advertised in WV or KY we would get a huge response.
I will NEVER vote for Barrack Obama in any circumstances. He is a child playing with sand! Not serious at all. I am frustrated. I will simply vote Mccain and hope Hillary came back in 2012.
Here’s my response to the latest e-mail I received from the DNC (seems they don’t want to unsubscribe me from their list…)
“You idiots REALLY blew it. Lifelong democrat here. I’ve NEVER voted Republican in my entire life, but what you, the party elites and the TRULY DISGUSTING mainstream did during this primary is TOTALLY INEXCUSABLE. Did you learn NOTHING from 2000? I AM VOTING FOR MCCAIN, as are a good deal of the 18 million Hillary supporters that you screwed over. Ever heard of a group called PUMA? It stands for People United Means Action. It also means Party United? My ASS. Our numbers are growing by the minute and you will see us in Denver this August.
Well Howie, I am now an EX democrat and you will never EVER again receive one thin dime from me or any member of my family. You are an embarrassment and should resign immediately.
Hope you have fun licking your wounds this November when BO loses in a landslide to John McCain.”
Calm Jeremy. Remember Hillary suspended her campaign, she did not concede as the MSM would have you believe. It is quite possible she is just waiting for the Obamessiah to fall flat on his arrogant face!
I sent a message to Kerry’s Democratic opponent Ed Oreilly asking who he supports for President, and what he thought of the debacle the DNC created breaking their own rules to favor Senator Obama. If I get an email back from him I will share the information with everyone here so we know if we should back him as a statement to the DNC Elite that they screwed the pooch!
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
I enjoy having a place like this to vet and release some of this frustation out.
Though I can’t help but wonder, what can we do? I think it would be nice to have an addition, a area that we could plan activities/protests/rallies i.e a protest at Denver, rallies in various cities to gain support for the Hillary movement – the people’s choice.
What do you think?
I just attempted to post my final good bye to Hillary on her website now that is not only her website…..
I think she did a wonderful job with the speech Saturday although it was heartbreaking to see that the light has gone out of her eyes. Yes, we will take over the battle for her now because WE CAN!
I will do everything I can including voting for McCain.
Lisa
Hillary supporters, including me with overwhelming tears during her speech yesterday, should be proud of her and the path she has cleared for all of us to have our voices heard on the important issues. As a supportive male of women rights and equality, I’ve personally battled for nearly eight years to convince women that we can have a strong and viable women President. Over the years, I always found that women were the least likely to be supportive of a women for President. Surely now, we can see that this perception has been completely shattered and there is major attitudinal shift about women, thanks to Hillary Clinton’s impressive [winning, in my opinion] campaign. Hillary continues to show her strength, courage, compassion, commitment, and wisdom to fight for the change we need in this country for today, tomorrow and many years in the future.
Unity letter from Dean.
Here was my response.
“Reach out to your friends and family, your neighbors and coworkers, and anyone else who may have fought hard for what they believed in. Bring them in and remind them that we’re a family
Mr. Dean,
I am doing exactly that. Telling everyone that I am a Hillary Democrate and that I hope they will join me in November and vote for John McCain. The DNC has made their bed and they can now sleep in it. They backed the wrong candidate and losing is exactly what they deserve. Maybe at some point they will re-examine their values about the will of the people. Instead of playing dirty politics. All those SD’s will be remembered for a very long time.
Former Democrate “
I must have unsubscribed from hillaryclinton.com before they took it down yesterday. Maybe it is down for maintenance??? I would try again later today.
Thank You for this site and for all you are trying to do for the real canadate Hillary Clinton,I will never vote for obama I will not back down, fight for Hillary the right choice!
Good Morning everyone,
Happy Sunday!
we need to go to every straw poll and raise Mc cain way up over nobama
Hi Everyone,
If you don’t know me, my name is Melissa. I’m a volunteer for Hillary. I was the Coordinator for Wayne County, WV. West Virginia gave Hillary a 41% victory. Wayne County had a record turnout of 58% with 85% of the votes for President going to Hillary. Howard Dean and the DNC made such a sham out of this primary and I want for them to have egg on their faces when BHO loses out his a$$ in November. I will be sending emails to everyone that I know, telling them about this wonderful blog to participate in! As soon as my family begins to recover from our money crunch, I’ll try to begin donating to this worthy cause. I hope that more of our HillaryClinton.com folks join us!! Talk to you all soon! P.S. Can we begin a section that we can all have mini groups, perhaps by each state, so that we can also organize to elect the opposing candidates to superdelegates that betrayed us? In WV’s case, governor, senators, and congressmen! Please let me know! I want them to lose in November also!
Thanks!
i woke up this morning and i DO know one thing for sure that in November i CAST my VOTE for Sen. John McCain!
GOOOOOOOOOO MCCAIN! The US President We Trust!
GOOOOOOOOOO Denver HILLARY!
or HILLARY 2012!
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My enemy’s enemy is not necessarily my good buddy.
I understand why many are going to vote for McCain.
I’ll vote for Nader or someone else to show the DNC that
I don’t buy their line. I hope Obama will loose, regardless of the tactics each of us may choose. I’m trying to thread the needle, and it’s not clear that it will work, because I do want to (1) fix what’s wrong with the
Democratic party, while (2) getting rid of Republicans in power.
A vote for McCain for purely tactical reasons will help with the first objective, but at a heavy price.
Here’s some of what concerns me about McCain.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/07/mccain-and-womens-issues-its-more-than-just-roe/
turndownobama, you asked “Is this really how it works?”
Yes. Remember how Dean became chair in the first place?
It’s kind of like pro sports. Losing coaches are often let go.
Except of course this isnt sports. It’s real life for millions of Americans, and Brazile and Dean and the media acted like it was a big game.
They need to go– if Obama loses it will be pretty hard for them to justify their leadership.
Good morning, Murph and fellow PUMAs! It truly is a new day ….. and we’re going to make a difference. This, I believe!
Jeremy – I went to HC.com this morning and I was able to unsubscribe and send a message. I instructed “them” NOT to give any of my information to the DNC or BO camp. I wrote that I will NEVER vote for BO and, furthermore, I will be working my hardest for his defeat. I’m sure her site has already been taken over. Anyway, thanks for the heads up – and I wanted to let you know that I was successful this am. Hopefully, when you try again, it’ll work for you.
Have a glorious day, PUMAs! I’m so motivated by all of your posts. xo, Lizzy
Check out the New York Times Op-Ed, What Went Wrong? Christine Whitman writes “Boys on the Bias” at http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/opinion/08whitman-1.htm/
Adding Illinois. Anyone else from Illinois? I feel so alone here in my support for Hillary!
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
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ILLINOIS:
lizben08
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
Hillgirl (Southeast PA)
TEXAS:
Thanks for the list. Can it be posted so we can easily see and add?
For the believers:
We have been hounding Michelle Whitedove for an update since her last one on May 8th…I got mine today in the mail today!!!! Keep the Faith Pumas
http://www.michellewhitedove.com/Blog-%20TheDemocraticIllusionJune2008.php
Good Morning Hillsters! After getting through a very difficult day for Hillary and her supporters it’s time for us to decide if we are going to stay UNITED. “Loyalty is not transferable.”
So many of us have said that “We will not support Obama”, “We will vote for McCain”, “We will leave the DNC and become Independents”. But, before we do anything please wait for the Democratic National Convention to be held in Denver. We have the summer to let our hurt feelings heal. We must be strong for Hillary like she has had been strong for 18 million.
Hillary is in need of contributions to help pay off her campaign debts. Obama nor the DNC can pay the debts for her, she has to raise the money on her own.
Lets ban together and help her! If we all contribute whatever we can to help get her debt paid she will be in a better financial position when the convention is held.
Remember, she did NOT concede or withdraw from her campaign, she ONLY suspended the campaign which keeps her in the game until the convention.
The RNC will be digging into Obama’s past and who knows what will come to light by the time the convention gets here. We just don’t know, so please stay Loyal to Hillary and help her.
Good Morning Murphy and PUMAS. Hey LizzyinCt I too tried last night to get into Hillary’s web site and was unable so I will go in today.
Yes it is a new day and we are motivated for sure. Can’t spend our energies on defeat…….now we have to keep bo out of office and we can do it together. Tomorrow morning I am registering Independent. My husband and I have always been Dems. No more. Treat our Hillary like this which is unfair and we ban together and fight for our cause. I have to admit this morning I am still bummed and started to get emotional talking with my husband about Hillary. We voted for her not because she is a Clinton or Woman but because she was the VERY BEST that we could have in the White House. What ever the goal here I will dedicate myself to except vote in Nov. for bo. NEVER !!!!! McCain first and I can’t stand him but I will give him the vote as I am worried that if I stay home I won’t make a difference in Nov.
Adding Illinois. Anyone else from Illinois? I feel so alone here in my support for Hillary!
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
delete this and add your name here, submit
ILLINOIS:
lizben08
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
Hillgirl (Southeast PA)
TEXAS:
North Carolina:
suzieforhill (Outer Banks)
Hi Team Hillary!!!
I just joined and I’m ready to fight. I canceled my subscription to the HC site this AM and sent this message:
I will never support BO. I will vote McCain to ensure HRC is elected in 2012 (if not 2008). My donations are done – until/unless HRC is our nominee. The DNC is a disgrace. If you don’t want my Florida vote today, you won’t get it in November. I will work my hardest to ensure my family, friends, and neighbors follow suit! I just hope I get a call from someone in the BO campaign asking for my money. I look forward to that call! TEAM HILLARY IS ALIVE AND WELL!!! YES WE WILL!!!!
Christopher Clark
Tampa, Florida
Is there a moderator here that can share with us the number of members we have so far? I sent our info out on Myspace. There are so many people who are saddened about this who were not in the blogosphere. I will spread the word about this site. Please do the same. Today is a new day – and tomorrow is our day!!!
If I knew for sure that Hillary has a chance in Denver then I would not go Independent tomorrow. I just want to send a message that I won’t be told to stand in line. I think by changing to Independent it is more of a protest the Dems can see first hand. If anyone can give me some sound advice on this issue then I may hold off until after Denver. HELP !!!!!!
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL,shorttermerpuma@gmail.com
Susy T.
Jody
Shasta 2001
Chris (FLgayGuy4Hill) – Tampa, FL
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GEORGIA:
drae
Sonya D.
Jade in GA
antifish
kids1627
delete this and add your name here, submit
INDIANA:
LatinPuma, Indiana, Fishers
MISSISSIPPI:
Mac
TEXAS:
Jeremy
CALIFORNIA:
goandersen
EWard aka yoga82
gina613
Jenn4Hill
druark
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
MD:
United We Stand 4 Hillary (Eastern Shore)
NORTH CAROLINA:
Suzieforhill
LOUISIANA:
Deep South
delete this and add your name here, submit
722 lizben08 on 06.08.08 at 9:37 am Adding Illinois. Anyone else from Illinois? I feel so alone here in my support for Hillary!
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
delete this and add your name here, submit
GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
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ILLINOIS:
lizben08
CHRIS1983
MICHIGAN:
delete this and add your name here, submit
OREGON:
Hill4me (Portland)
PA:
Genevieve (SouthEast PA)
Hillgirl (Southeast PA)
TEXAS:
test…
Good Morning Murphy and Pumas,
Thought I’d grab a cup of coffee and join you. Noticed I keep dropping off the list. Trying again:)
FLORIDA:
ShortTermer, central FL
Susy T,
Jody,
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GEORGIA:
drae,
SonyaD,
JadeinGA
antifih
ILLINOIS:
lizben08
MICHIGAN:
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